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Dr_de_Bauche  
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 More options May 16, 12:32 am
Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.jewish, alt.war.terrorism, soc.culture.israel
From: Dr_de_Bauche <debauched@the_core.org>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 05:32:17 +0100
Local: Fri, May 16 2008 12:32 am
Subject: Re: ISLAM And Suicide Bombing
Here is a link to a torrent that explains exactly how the explicit
promises of paradise, [72 virgins], together with the extreme male
chauvinism of Arab society combines to form a deadly and potent myth,
for which young men, women, even families are willing to murder in the
most extreme and barbaric way.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=9%2F11+hijackers+went+to+bars+...

[If you dont know how to use torrent files look up "torrent" in
Wikipedia, but basically you need a torrent client program, for example
uTorrent or Azureus, then download the torrent and open it with the
torrent client you have intsalled, and wait for the film to download
over several hours]

Watching this film will explain *exactly* what we in the West [and
Israel is the West, the frontline of Western thought and democracy right
there in the Middle East], are up against. It explains *precisely* what
many of the apologists for terror in this forum have used as one of
their main arguments; how exactly are these terrorists brainwashed.

They are brainwashed with promises of all the sexual gratification that
we in the West take as being normal and desirable for every adult, yet
which is totally denied and non-existent in the Islamic world. Most
young men in Gaza and the West Bank have never spoken to a woman outside
of their family, let alone gone on something as innocent as a "date" to
the cinema - and this is the type of restriction on inter-sexual contact
the Islamists wish to introduce over here knowing that it is the key to
being able towarp the minds of the vulnerable into committing murder -
in the belief that they will be met by scores of virgins and rivers of
alcohol - all the pleasures of Western society they see others enjoying
around them every hour and every day, but are themselves locked out of
by their religion, culture and socio-economic status as immigrants in
the West.

It is telling that several of the 9-11 hijackers spent their last few
days on earth visiting cheap bars and prostitutes, almost as if they
were taking an advance peek at what they believed was promised to then
according to the Koran.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/columns/013105p.htm

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a070401sextoys

The interesting thing about this film is it shows exactly what we are up
against if we want to defeat Islamic terror, and the strategies we
should adopt, namely focussing on the inequality of sexes within the
Muslim community. Honour killings, domestic violence and the keeping of
women within purdah in the West need to be investigated without fear of
being politically correct. That would serve two purposes, firstly it
would demonstrate that Muslims are not above the law, and that the West
will enforce its codes on all its members regardless of religion, [as we
should have been doing for a long time now], and secondly it will
provide space for those women within the Muslim community who want to
shed the dead weight of Islam repressing their lives, but feel unable to
do so because from their perspective they think that even if they did
stand up and demand the same rights as Western women they somehow will
not be taken seriously because "well, thats normal for Muslims to do
that to their women innit"..

Having watched this film I now also support a ban on the full face veil
within Western society, as it is a mark of separation, and a way for
overbearing Islamic males to legally oppress their daughters and wives,
creating a situation where it is even harder, even less likely that they
will escape the mental prison that is the Islamic mindset; a cult
mentality that deceives with sexually explicit promises of a world to
come, to the point where a good Muslim hates this life, and thinks only
of a "good" Islamic death as a martyr to gain this X-rated paradise.
Islamic terror will be defeated by opening the doors for young Muslims,
men and women to gain that kind of reward here on earth, thereby showing
them how false and shallow the promises of "janaat" are.


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ElParedon  
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 More options May 16, 9:04 am
Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine, soc.culture.jewish, soc.culture.iraq, soc.culture.israel, soc.culture.canada, soc.culture.usa
From: "ElParedon" <ser...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:04:06 -0400
Local: Fri, May 16 2008 9:04 am
Subject: Re: ISLAM And Suicide Bombing
 What's wrong with suicide bombing, it works!

There were thousandsa of suicide bombers who died fighting Nazis during
WWII, you do not demonize them!

Ever heard of Zoya Kosmodemskaya? Oleg Kapustin? Of course not.
They did not ask Paradise, they volunteered to die for their country, just
like Palestinians are doing.

Long live Free Palestine!


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