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PB1952

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Jun 10, 2009, 4:36:06 PM6/10/09
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LATEST Several blocks of Washington were put into lockdown on Wednesday
after a neo-Nazi entered the United States Holocaust Museum in Washington DC
about 1.00pm local time (5am NZT Thursday) and opened fire with a rifle.

Security guards returned fire as terrified visitors to the museum cowered in
galleries and on the floor.

One security guard was badly wounded as was the gunman, and both have been
taken to George Washington Hospital. A third person was injured by breaking
glass.

Initially visitors were told by security staff to get down and take cover,
but as soon as it was clear the gunman was alone and there were no other
threats, visitors were ordered to run from the museum out the back door.

One eyewitness, Maria, 19, said the shooting took place in the lobby on the
second floor and began with a shot.

"A security guard shot toward the security area. There was another security
guard and he was face down and had blood on his back - there was a lot of
blood, " she said.

Sergeant David Schlosser, spokesman for the US Park Police, said it was
believed that two security guards returned fire and there were only two
people injured: one security guard and the shooter.

The condition of the security guard was described as "grave" and the alleged
assailant was said to be in a critical condition.

Fox News, NBC and CNN all said the gunman had been identified as James von
Brunn, 88, a Maryland resident who has long been tied to hate groups and
anti-government organisations, and served a prison sentence for taking a gun
into the Federal Reserve.

But neither Washington Mayor Adrian Fenty nor the city's police chief Cathy
Lanier would confirm the gunman's identity.

"It appears to be a lone gunman who entered into the museum and opened fire
with what appears to be a rifle at this point," said Lanier. "We have no
confirmation on any identity. That's going to take a little bit of time."

She added that there had been no prior warning about the incident.

Fenty said the gunman was in critical condition in hospital and a security
guard who was wounded was gravely ill.

But he added: "No name will be released as of right now and we will bring
more information to you as more information comes to us."

Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law centre, which monitors hate
groups, described von Brunn as "a very well-known neo-Nazi," with a long
track record of anti-Semitism and racist hate speak.

Von Brunn has a website, holywesternempire.com, which includes biographical
information and some chapters of his book Kill the Best Gentiles.

The website says that during World War II he served as a PT-Boat captain,
receiving a Commendation and four battle stars. For twenty years he was an
advertising executive and film-producer in New York City.

In 1981 von Brunn attempted to place "the treasonous Federal Reserve Board
of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest".

He was tried in a Washington DC Superior Court for attempted kidnapping and
served six and a half years in federal prison.

Most public buildings have metal detectors and security checkpoints. The
museum is on the corner of 14th and Independence Avenue, about two blocks
from the Washington monument and four blocks from the White House.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2490817/Neo-Nazi-shoots-two-at-Holocaust-museum
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According to NBC, the man who shot a security guard and potentially one to
two other people at the Holocaust Museum today is 89-year-old James W. Von
Brunn. Von Brunn maintains a white-supremacist Web site,
HolyWesternEmpire.org. The biography of Von Brunn on the site states that he
spent over six years in federal prison for attempting to "place the

treasonous Federal Reserve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent,

citizens arrest." A World War II veteran and resident of Maryland, Von Brunn
is the author of a pamphlet entitled "Kill the Best Gentiles: A new,
hard-hitting expos� of the JEW CONSPIRACY to destroy the White gene-pool."
He is a Holocaust denier who has written that "Hilter's worse mistake" was
that "he didn't gas the Jews."

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PB1952

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A security guard wounded during a shootout at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial
Museum in Washington has died as the result of his injuries, the museum's
director said today.

ABC News has obtained a statement sent by museum director Sara Bloomfield
confirming the death of officer Stephen Tyrone Johns.

"There are no words to express our grief and shock over today's events," she
wrote.

"It is my sad duty to inform you of the passing of Officer Stephen Tyrone
Johns, who died heroically in the line of duty today," Bloomfield continued.
"He served on the Museum's security staff for six years. Our thoughts and
prayers go out to Officer Johns's family."

Bloomfield said that the museum will remain closed Thursday in honor of
Johns.

As mourners remember Johns, investigators are piecing together a disturbing
picture of the alleged shooter.

Law enforcement sources have named the suspect as James von Brunn, 88, who
has been linked to Web sites with racist writings. Both von Brunn and Johns
sustained gunshot wounds during the altercation, and von Brunn remians in
serious condition.

The suspect allegedly entered the museum with a long gun and exchanged
gunfire with a guard, U.S. Park Police Sgt. David Schlosser said. Two other
guards returned fire and wounded the alleged gunman.

The incident took place just before 1 p.m. ET, D.C. Metro Police Chief Cathy
Lanier said.

Ambulances transported both the guard and the alleged gunman at George
Washington University Hospital in Washington. Medical personnel treated a
third person hurt by glass at the scene of the incident

On the Web site www.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described himself as
"an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore". He also
claimed a background as a Midwesterner who became a PT boat captain in World
War II and later worked as an ad executive and film producer in New York
City. He said he is a member of Mensa and has six chapters posted from a
book he authored, "Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog," which translates as "To Kill the
Best Gentiles!" and claims to outline a Jewish plot against society.

He also outlined a 1981 bid to "place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board
of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest." On the site, he
claimed he unjustly received an 11-year jail sentence, of which he served
6.5 years, when he was arrested at the Fed after entering the building where
the board of governors was meeting with a camera and with weapons hidden
under his trench coat.

James von Brunn's Writings, Extremist Views
Von Brunn argued the Fed was not allowed to exist under the Constitution and
claimed it was a Jewish means of controlling the U.S. government.

"It is one of many parasitical Rothschild Central Banks infesting the world
stage," he wrote on www.holywesternempire.org. "Its power ascends over every
U.S. citizen from cradle to grave. Every dollar in your wallet is a note
issued by the FED. The U.S. Government redeems that note (principal and
interest) with your taxes. Through its enormous resources and power the FED
controls the machinery of the U.S. Government."

At a press conference this afternoon, city officials declined to confirm von
Brunn as the suspect.

Lanier said investigators are still in the preliminary stages of the
investigation, but currently believe that the suspected gunman acted alone,
and that "no prior threats" had been made to the museum.

She added that an off-duty police officer was near the museum at the time of
the shooting and immediately responded to the scene. ............

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=7805194&page=1


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In news:h0p73u$sjj$1...@news.eternal-september.org "PB1952"
<paul...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> On the Web site www.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described himself
> as "an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore".

That Web site is registered to "Steve Reimink" of West Olive, MI.

Anybody know who he is?

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Jun 10, 2009, 5:12:13 PM6/10/09
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On Jun 10, 5:03 pm, "PB1952" <paul1...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>
> A security guard wounded during a shootout at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial
> Museum in Washington has died as the result of his injuries, the museum's
> director said today.
>
> ABC News has obtained a statement sent by museum director Sara Bloomfield
> confirming the death of officer Stephen Tyrone Johns.

I knew he'd be a shvaahts.

> "There are no words to express our grief and shock over today's events," she
> wrote.
>
> "It is my sad duty to inform you of the passing of Officer Stephen Tyrone
> Johns, who died heroically in the line of duty today," Bloomfield continued.
> "He served on the Museum's security staff for six years.  Our thoughts and
> prayers go out to Officer Johns's family."

How touching. Maybe they'll give them an extra week of the shvaahts'
$250 salary.


Bert Hyman

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Jun 10, 2009, 5:17:32 PM6/10/09
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In news:Xns9C26A4493D3...@216.250.184.7 Bert Hyman
<be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:h0p73u$sjj$1...@news.eternal-september.org "PB1952"
><paul...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> On the Web site www.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described
>> himself as "an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern
>> Shore".
>
> That Web site is registered to "Steve Reimink" of West Olive, MI.
>
> Anybody know who he is?

The address and phone number listed in Mr. Reimink's domain registration
are shared by one "Patty Anyanwu" in the domain registration for
"GOVCRAP.COM".

She appears as the Ottawa County Michigan campaign coordinator for Ron
Paul's 2008 election attempt.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/paul/paulorgmi.html

Now, that's interesting.

Just Me

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Jun 10, 2009, 5:37:47 PM6/10/09
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On Jun 10, 4:17 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:Xns9C26A4493D3...@216.250.184.7Bert Hyman
>
> <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > Innews:h0p73u$sjj$1...@news.eternal-september.org"PB1952"
> ><paul1...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> >> On the Web sitewww.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described

> >> himself as "an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern
> >> Shore".
>
> > That Web site is registered to "Steve Reimink" of West Olive, MI.
>
> > Anybody know who he is?
>
> The address and phone number listed in Mr. Reimink's domain registration
> are shared by one "Patty Anyanwu" in the domain registration for
> "GOVCRAP.COM".
>
> She appears as the Ottawa County Michigan campaign coordinator for Ron
> Paul's 2008 election attempt.
>
> http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/paul/paulorgmi.html 
>
> Now, that's interesting.

Yes, but not at all surprising.

But you know, after a look at some of this whack-job's rhetoric . . .

http://www.holywesternempire.org/page2.html

It sounds like a lot of the sludge being posted to this group every
day by these various anonymous Herman Goering wannabees we got here,
typing away with their polished fingernails. We should keep watching
to see which one of them is missing just as of today.

Just one thing I want to know . . .

Do all Holocaust deniers wear blue bloomers?
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william hubbard

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On Jun 10, 2:10 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:h0p73u$sjj$1...@news.eternal-september.org"PB1952"
>
> <paul1...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> > On the Web sitewww.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described himself

> > as "an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore".
>
> That Web site is registered to "Steve Reimink" of West Olive, MI.
>
> Anybody know who he is?
>
> --
> Bert Hyman      St. Paul, MN    b...@iphouse.com

An old friutcake. we have 305 million people in the US, some of them
will go off from time to time..

I'll Always Be 10/06/09

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In article
<Xns9C26A4493D3...@216.250.18
4.7>,
Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:h0p73u$sjj$1...@news.eternal-september.org "PB1952"
> <paul...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > On the Web site www.holywesternempire.org, von Brunn described himself
> > as "an artist and author who lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore".
>
> That Web site is registered to "Steve Reimink" of West Olive, MI.
>
> Anybody know who he is?

ben cramer

I'll Always Be 10/06/09

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>,
"PB1952" <paul...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
on so many levels. More likely he is one
of the original nazis.

Does kurt know him?

george

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On Jun 11, 3:28 pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
> At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> on so many levels. More likely he is one
> of the original nazis.
>
> Does kurt know him?

That wanker must be almost coital over one of his type murdering an
innocent gate keeper in a museum.
What a waste of space

Truthseeker

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"george" <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote in message
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Not for the holocaust industry they made headlines again. Is this not what
it is all about.
Kurt Knoll.


I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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In article
<5e4a3c53-9495-40aa-b0cb-6a7fc45ecd8e@o2
1g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:

The strangest thing is that we don't see
the cramerites fawning over a new hero
and shouting "It was a frame job by the
Jews".

I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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In article
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"Truthseeker" <kur...@citywest.ca>
wrote:

How did they make headlines?

Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <5e4a3c53-9495-40aa...@o21g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

Canada's Marc Lemire once referred to Ernst Zundel's
taped interview with von Brunn as "the best of the
Samisdat radio programs, and offered them for sale at
$USD 15.00 per copy.

(And people wonder why Zundel was considered a risk to
Canada's security...)


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In article <aussies_suck-F9EB...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,

Give them time. As soon as von Brunn dies, which
hopefully will be today, they will begin referring to
him as some sort of Noble Aryan HeRow, forced by
Wascally Juice to load his rifle and shoot his way out
of the USHMM, where he was being held captive by
Zionist Mind Rays.

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nowhere. Do it from from a 10 meter springboard and everybody will
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NefeshBarYochai

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Someone should kill your Hun ass.

NefeshBarYochai

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On Jun 11, 8:36 am, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <aussies_suck-F9EB25.00562111062...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,

One thing that has me concerned is how this murder will affect the
behavior of the Police in general. Just the other day there was a
thing on TV about the cops tazing a 72-year woman. They showed the
video. Von Brunn is supposedly 89. If the cops start bulling the old
people because of a few misfits then as Americans we can fall right in
the behavior traits of the Amalekites thus giving justification for
HaShem the G-d of Israel to destroy us.

NefeshBarYochai

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<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <h0p5fp$e0...@news.eternal-september.org
>
>
>
>
>
> >,
> >http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2490817/Neo-Nazi-shoots-two-at-...

> > -museum
> > PB1...@gmail.com
>
> At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> on so many levels. More likely he is one
> of the original nazis.
>
> Does kurt know him?

I'm surprised no-one ever fragged his ass when he was on active duty.
But back in WWII there wasn't a whole mess of Americans killing each
like happened in Vietnam.

Michael Ejercito

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<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <h0p5fp$e0...@news.eternal-september.org
>
>
>
> >,
> >http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2490817/Neo-Nazi-shoots-two-at-...

> > -museum
> > PB1...@gmail.com
>
> At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> on so many levels. More likely he is one
> of the original nazis.
>
> Does kurt know him?
I wonder if he was the dude who used to post as "serwad".


Michael

NefeshBarYochai

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I think not Mike. I'd thought that the serwad shitbird was Muslim not
a Nazi.

fla...@verizon.net

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On 11-Jun-2009, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

> In article <aussies_suck-F9EB...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,
> I'll Always Be 11/06/09 <aussie...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >In article
> ><5e4a3c53-9495-40aa-b0cb-6a7fc45ecd8e@o2
> >1g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jun 11, 3:28�pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
> >> <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> >> > on so many levels. More likely he is one
> >> > of the original nazis.
> >> >
> >> > Does kurt know him?
> >>
> >> That wanker must be almost coital over one of his type murdering an
> >> innocent gate keeper in a museum.
> >> What a waste of space
> >
> >The strangest thing is that we don't see
> >the cramerites fawning over a new hero
> >and shouting "It was a frame job by the
> >Jews".
>
> Give them time. As soon as von Brunn dies, which
> hopefully will be today,

I was the bastard to be put on trial.
Then I want him to go to jail.
I want him to die in prison.

Susan

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On 11-Jun-2009, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

> In article <aussies_suck-F9EB...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,
> I'll Always Be 11/06/09 <aussie...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >In article
> ><5e4a3c53-9495-40aa-b0cb-6a7fc45ecd8e@o2
> >1g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jun 11, 3:28�pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
> >> <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> >> > on so many levels. More likely he is one
> >> > of the original nazis.
> >> >
> >> > Does kurt know him?
> >>
> >> That wanker must be almost coital over one of his type murdering an
> >> innocent gate keeper in a museum.
> >> What a waste of space
> >
> >The strangest thing is that we don't see
> >the cramerites fawning over a new hero
> >and shouting "It was a frame job by the
> >Jews".
>
> Give them time. As soon as von Brunn dies, which
> hopefully will be today,

I want the bastard to be put on trial.
Then I want him to go to jail, where he belongs.
I want him to die in prison - it's only fitting.

Susan

NefeshBarYochai

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On Jun 11, 10:19 am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jun-2009, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <aussies_suck-F9EB25.00562111062...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,

> > I'll Always Be 11/06/09  <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > >In article
> > ><5e4a3c53-9495-40aa-b0cb-6a7fc45ecd8e@o2
> > >1g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> > > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>
> > >> On Jun 11, 3:28 pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
> > >> <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > >> > At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> > >> > on so many levels. More likely he is one
> > >> > of the original nazis.
>
> > >> > Does kurt know him?
>
> > >> That wanker must be almost coital over one of his type murdering an
> > >> innocent gate keeper in a museum.
> > >> What a waste of space
>
> > >The strangest thing is that we don't see
> > >the cramerites fawning over a new hero
> > >and shouting "It was a frame job by the
> > >Jews".
>
> > Give them time. As soon as von Brunn dies, which
> > hopefully will be today,
>
> I want the bastard to be put on trial.
> Then I want him to go to jail, where he belongs.
> I want him to die in prison - it's only fitting.
>
> Susan

If I don’t ascend into heaven I’ll probably check into an Israeli jail
someday and die there so I can get a Jewish funeral in a pine box and
be buried on Eretz Israel.

I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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t>,

kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay
OBC) wrote:

And all of his doctors and nurses were
Jews.

TUKA

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He "went Muslim".


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george

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> And all of his doctors and nurses were
> Jews.

And no pain relief!
use every medical technique known to keep him alive and in pain.
For as long as medically possible

PB1952

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Doesn't everyone?

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.and 'n*****s'. (his words)
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Make sure the staff treating him are Jews, African Americans ,Asians,
Hispanics and make sure he knows it.

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And what are the details about the whole affair up till now we only have one
sided explanations.
kk

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He has been charged.

In his car, officers found a notebook with a handwritten note that read,
"You want my weapons - this is how you'll get them. The Holocaust is a lie.
Obama was created by Jews," according to a court affidavit.

Von Brunn's .22-caliber rifle held 10 more bullets and investigators found
more in his car and at an apartment in nearyby Annapolis, Maryland, that he
shared with son and his son's fiancee.


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Is this guy's on-line name Ben Cramer?

PB1952

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He has been charged so he must be conscious.

Von Brunn was charged with murder and killing in the course of possessing a
firearm at a federal facility, both capital offenses under federal law, and
authorities said Thursday hate crime charges were also possible.


In his car, officers found a notebook with a handwritten note that read,
"You want my weapons - this is how you'll get them. The Holocaust is a lie.
Obama was created by Jews," according to a court affidavit.

Von Brunn's .22-caliber rifle held 10 more bullets and investigators found
more in his car and at an apartment in nearyby Annapolis, Maryland, that he
shared with son and his son's fiancee.

A self-described artist, advertising man and author, he wrote an
anti-Semitic treatise, "Kill the Best Gentiles," decried "the browning of
America" and claimed to expose a Jewish conspiracy "to destroy the White
gene-pool." He also wrote of a lifetime of seething anger.

"It's better to be strong than right," he said in one of his dark online
postings, "unless you like dying. Crowds hate good guys."

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lol....
We wouldn't expect anything else from you KK.

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Here's some details dumbkopf.
An 88-year-old white supremacist has been charged with murder after a
security guard was gunned down while opening the door for him at the US
Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Guard Stephen Johns was shot to death by Holocaust denier James von Brunn,
who left his car outside an entrance to the Washington museum then walked
inside holding a rifle.

Von Brunn started shooting immediately, exchanging fire with two other
guards who shot and critically injured him.

In his car, officers found a notebook with a handwritten note that read,
"You want my weapons - this is how you'll get them. The Holocaust is a lie.
Obama was created by Jews," according to a court affidavit.

Von Brunn's .22-caliber rifle held 10 more bullets and investigators found
more in his car and at an apartment in nearyby Annapolis, Maryland, that he
shared with son and his son's fiancee.

Security guards fired at von Brunn at least eight times, hitting him in the
face.

The museum remained closed Thursday and flags flew at half-mast in honor of
Johns, 39, who had worked at the museum for six years.

Bouquets of roses, lilies and other flowers were left outside the museum
walls. The entrance where the shooting occurred was cordoned off by police
tape.

Von Brunn, who tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve decades ago,
remained in critical condition Thursday at a Washington hospital.

A self-described artist, advertising man and author, he wrote an
anti-Semitic treatise, "Kill the Best Gentiles," decried "the browning of
America" and claimed to expose a Jewish conspiracy "to destroy the White
gene-pool." He also wrote of a lifetime of seething anger.

"It's better to be strong than right," he said in one of his dark online
postings, "unless you like dying. Crowds hate good guys."

Von Brunn was charged with murder and killing in the course of possessing a

firearm at a federal facility, both capital offenses under federal law, and

authorities said Thursday hate crime charges were also possible. Johns was
black.

"We know what Mr von Brunn did yesterday at the Holocaust museum. Now it's
our responsibility to determine why he did it," said Joseph Persichini,
assistant director of the Washington FBI field office.

The Homeland Security Department said the shooting does not appear to have a
connection to terrorism, though Persichini characterized it as "domestic
terrorism."

He said authorities have contacted or visited any people or places named in
documents found in von Brunn's car. Authorities searched the red 2002
Hyundai for explosives, but found none.
The attack unfolded in a public space filled with records, photographs and
exhibits about the Nazis' killing of more than 6 million Jews in the
Holocaust more than a half-century ago.

The museum was crowded with schoolchildren and other tourists, but all
escaped injury.

Ashley Camp, 14, on a field trip with more than 40 other students, said she
heard two or three gunshots and a security guard ordered the group to run to
the exit.

"We had to sprint as fast as we could out the door," she said.

Von Brunn was sentenced in 1983 for attempted armed kidnapping and other
charges in his 1981 bid to seize Fed board members.

A guard captured him outside the room where the board was meeting. He had a
revolver, sawed-off shotgun and knife in a bag with him. He served more than
six years in prison.

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Holocaust Museum Shooting Suspect Had Been Growing More Hateful and
Desperate


The accused Holocaust museum gunman who allegedly shot and killed a black
security guard had been growing more angry, hateful and desperate in recent
weeks, according to those who know him.

James W. Von Brunn, 88, told friends his Social Security benefits had been
stopped, and he warned in a mass e-mail message to white supremacist
associates that they might not hear from him again, The Washington Post
reported.

Von Brunn, who was shot and critically wounded after he burst into the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington and opened fire, was sending
increasingly violent messages. In one e-mail, he wrote, "It's time to kill
all the Jews," according to the Post.

He also told friends he was in financial trouble and was going to give away
his computer.

"He said his Social Security had been cut and that he was barely making it,"
acquaintance John de Nugent, a self-described white separatist, told the
Post. "He felt it was the direct result of someone in Washington looking at
his Web site."

On Thursday, authorities said Von Brunn would be charged with capital
murder.

Von Brunn, a World War II veteran, had long been known in white supremacist
circles for his racist rants and extreme hatred of Jews and blacks. He lives
in Annapolis, Md., and has a history of anger, abusive behavior,
anti-Semitism and anti-government aggression.

The Web site attributed to Von Brunn says he wrote a book called "Kill the
Best Gentiles," about how to "protect your white family."

Online writings said to be Von Brunn's claim the Holocaust was a hoax and
lambaste a Jewish conspiracy to "destroy the white gene pool."

Neighbors of Von Brunn said they had recently invited him over for a drink,
and out of the blue, he said the Holocaust did not occur, the Post reported.

Todd Blodgett, a former White House aide to President Ronald Reagan who
later became affiliated with extremist groups, said he spent a lot of time
with Von Brunn in the 1990s and early 2000s.

"Von Brunn is obsessed with Jewish people," Blodgett told the Post. "He had
equal contempt for both Jews and blacks, but if he had to pick one group to
wipe out, he'd always say it would be Jews."

Von Brunn went so far as to say he fought on the wrong side of World War II,
according to Blodgett.

"You'd get the impression that he was intelligent and a bit off," said
Blodgett, who worked as a paid FBI informant on white supremacist groups.

In 1981, Von Brunn tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board of
Governors, a body he accused of treason, because he was upset over high
interest rates and economic turmoil. He was arrested outside the room where
the board was meeting carrying a sawed-off shotgun and other weapons, and
went to prison for 6 1/2 years.

Navy records show Von Brunn enlisted in 1942 as an apprentice seaman before
accepting an appointment as a naval midshipman in the volunteer reserves in
March 1943. On his application, the 21-year-old listed his reason for
signing up as "patriotic." He was discharged from the Navy in 1956.

A cousin, Virginia Gerker of St. Louis, said in an interview she hadn't seen
him in 50 years. She said her family had "disowned" him and believed him to
be mentally ill.

Public records show that in 2004 and 2005 he lived briefly in Hayden, Idaho,
which for years was home to the Aryan Nations, a racist group run by
neo-Nazi Richard Butler.

"We've been tracking this guy for decades," said Heidi Beirich, director of
research for the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which
tracks hate crimes. "He thinks the Jews control the Federal Reserve, the
banking system, that basically all Jews are evil."

A woman identifying herself as Von Brunn's ex-wife said he is an abusive,
racist alcoholic, and she divorced him because his hatred of Jews and blacks
"ate him alive like a cancer," according to the New York Daily News.

The woman, who is 69 and lives in Florida, said she married Von Brunn in the
mid-1960s and divorced him 10 years later. She said he drank red wine all
day, frequently engaged in verbal attacks and was consumed by his
prejudices.

"It's all he would talk about," she told the News.

She said she divorced him when she could no longer take his racist beliefs.

"When he talked about [race], he would get verbally abusive because I didn't
really want to talk about it," the ex-wife told the Post. "It was always
against the Jews and the blacks."

The Associated Press contributed to this report


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Where is your proof he is a holocaust denier. Almost everyone who is
questioning your holocaust is a holocaust denier. What kind of relationship
did he have with the victim why did he go to the holocaust museum. Be
truthfully about it if you can.
kk

Kurt Knoll.

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What was the reason why his social benefits were stopped. who was behind it
all.
kk

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Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <fKgYl.31560$PH1.16909@edtnps82>,
The hapless Intellectual Giant of Holocaust Revisionism,
Kurt Knoll, reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat and Laughing
Stock of UseNet, fluffed his Chicken Yellow Hitler Jugend

Tutu with the "Volksverhetzung" Cross and <kur...@citywest.ca> wrote:

>Where is your proof he is a holocaust denier. Almost everyone who is
>questioning your holocaust is a holocaust denier. What kind of relationship
>did he have with the victim why did he go to the holocaust museum. Be
>truthfully about it if you can.

Read his website, you stupid piece of dreck.

Oops! I forgot. It's in English, a language you cannot
comprehend. Find some 3-year-old Jewish kid and have
him read it to you.

149 Statements Illustrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's
strict adherence to the highest intellectual standards of Holocaust
denial... folks, with intellects like Knoll's to guide them, Holocaust
deniers cannot but slaver in his footsteps:

(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for
the first 145 -- (Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)

146. "The decision of a Jude I mostly not neutral basically he has
to follow the law. In the holocaust trial he has to be very
careful not to please the Jews or his courier is over."
<PFePl.28250$PH1.10279@edtnps82>, May 15, 2009

147. "Interesting another new story. How pig was the whole in the
roof," <IaeTl.28248$Db2.27251@edtnps83>, May 27, 2009

148. "The holocaust is not under investigation by the pope what
is it you are trying to twist around. as for the pope
I am an athirst you can keep him." <dLyUl.28806$Db2.14192@edtnps83>,
May 31, 2009

149. "Look for what I have read many German news papers did you."
<aGbYl.30184$Db2.22147@edtnps83>, June 11, 2009
--
Who is your choice for the Dumbest celebrity? Kurt Knoll
holds a commanding lead at 23.1%, Dan Quayle is second at
14.6% & GW Bush third at 22.3%. VOTE NOW, VOTE OFTEN!
Vote Now: http://squidoo.com/think-you-are-stupid-eh

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Why not but the link to his website in here. We all know you are using your
website do spread hatred.
Kurt Knoll.

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where IS HIS WEBSITE .
KK

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> where IS HIS WEBSITE .
> KK


http://www.holywesternempire.com

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> "Truthseeker" <kur...@citywest.ca> wrote in message
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>> where IS HIS WEBSITE .
>> KK
>
>
> http://www.holywesternempire.com
>


He wasalso a regular poster to white supremacist, revisionist and
anti-government websites.

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From what I can see it is not his website it is your information website.
How then can I compare what you are saying.
Kurt Knoll.

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You are a regular holocaust promoter so what is the difference here.
KK

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PB1952

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> From what I can see it is not his website it is your information website.
> How then can I compare what you are saying.
> Kurt Knoll.

It's his website and you are a complete idiot.
Learn to use Google and do your own research , which will confirm what I am
saying , the facts are there to find just by googling his name.
You demand links to info but dismissor question said info ulress it is
provided by your holocaust denying, revisionist mates.

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On Jun 10, 8:28 pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
<aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <h0p5fp$e0...@news.eternal-september.org
>
>
>
> >,
> >http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2490817/Neo-Nazi-shoots-two-at-...
> > -museum
> > PB1...@gmail.com

>
> At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
> on so many levels. More likely he is one
> of the original nazis.
>
> Does kurt know him?
I wonder if he was the dude who used to post as "serwad".


Michael


No Serwad is Alex is Alex Seredin and is eleven years younger than Von
Brunn. . Do a Google and you will find the info.

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After killing several hundred patrons
with zyklonB, he did kill himself. It's
on Elisabeth Manns birthday site.

> kk
>
> >
> >
> >
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I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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> What was the reason why his social benefits were stopped. who was behind it
> all.

Because he lied about the income he
received from zundel

I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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> Where is your proof he is a holocaust denier.

Go to his website.

Almost everyone who is
> questioning your holocaust is a holocaust denier.

Everyone who questions you is
intimidated and harassed.


What kind of relationship
> did he have with the victim why did he go to the holocaust museum.

They were all his old lovers


Be
> truthfully about it if you can.

Like you are truthful about how many
people died in a single air raid on
Nuremberg?

PB1952

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> "Truthseeker" <kur...@citywest.ca> wrote in message
> news:fMhYl.31582$PH1.23379@edtnps82...
>> From what I can see it is not his website it is your information website.
>> How then can I compare what you are saying.
>> Kurt Knoll.
>
>
>
> It's his website and you are a complete idiot.
> Learn to use Google and do your own research , which will confirm what I
> am saying , the facts are there to find just by googling his name.


CORRECTION:

You demand links to info , but dismiss any info provided unless it is

provided by your holocaust denying, revisionist mates.

You are a pathetic game player.No wonder people laugh at you including some
of your revisionist mates.

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> where IS HIS WEBSITE .

http://webferret.com

I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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> Why not but the link to his website in here. We all know you are using your
> website do spread hatred.

We will. As soon as you post the link
proving that 45000 people died in a
single air raid on Nuremberg.

I'll Always Be 11/06/09

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"PB1952" <paul...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

And that he is only served ethnic food.

PB1952

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> Why not but the link to his website in here. We all know you are using
> your website do spread hatred.
> Kurt Knoll.

I provided the link and you questioned whether it is his website.
Do you read anything ? Can you Google? Almost every news report online
provides a link to his website.


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His website is out of service so my computer says.
kk

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I did ue web ferret like it or not.
kk

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When i look at you info i wonder becuse it does not get me to the correct
url
kk

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James von Brunn linked to Adelaide Institute, reports say
JAMES von Brunn, the 88-year-old American white supremacist charged with
killing a security guard at Washington DC's US Holocaust Museum, targeted
Australia in his hate writings.

In his book, Kill the Best Gentiles!, von Brunn wrote that Australia, along
with Europe and Canada, was "overrun by hordes of non-Whites and mongrels".

A US newspaper also alleges von Brunn was linked to the Adelaide Institute,
headed by Australian Holocaust revisionists Fredrick Toben and Peter
Hartung.

"We are witnessing today on the world stage a tragedy of enormous
proportions: the calculated destruction of the White Race and the
incomparable culture it represents," von Brunn wrote in Kill the Best
Gentiles!

"Europe, former fortress of the West, is now overrun by hordes of non-Whites
and mongrels.

"The same is true of Australia and Canada."

America's Anti-Defamation League also alleged in 2004 that von Brunn wrote
to an Australian Holocaust-denial email list that it was "time to FLUSH all
'Holocaust' Memorials".

Von Brunn, a US World War II veteran, is accused of walking into the
Holocaust museum on Wednesday with a rifle at his side and fatally shooting
39-year-old guard Stephen T Johns.

Other guards fired back at von Brunn, critically injuring him.

Von Brunn is fighting for his life in hospital.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette newspaper alleged von Brunn was linked to the
Adelaide Institute.

"He held subscription and mail-order memberships in an assortment of
far-right and anti-Semitic organisations, including the California-based
Institute for Historic Review, the Adelaide Institute, a far-right
Australian group, and, at one point, was nominated as a 'white racialist
treasure' by a visitor to Stormfront, a neo-Nazi website based in Florida,"
the Post-Gazette reported.

Von Brunn was widely known for his white supremacist views and in 1981
entered the US Federal Reserve building armed with a a pistol, a shotgun, a
knife and an imitation bomb.

He planned to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve but was arrested and
jailed for six years.


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Hey sucker you are at the wrong address here. I have been in computing
longer than you think. The pre invention of the internet has been the
bulletin board. I did have a bulletin board under the name of Compu-Plus in
service long before the time of windows and internet explorer. We have been
working under a DOS environment if you know what it was. Not only that it
did I write programs in DOs like accounting and inventory control. All my
programs I have written it dbase and clipper. Go and fool someone else you
will never have any luck with me.
Kurt Knoll.

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Now this is a new one for me. Any new ideas you have let us know I am
Curious.
Kurt Knoll

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> When i look at you info i wonder becuse it does not get me to the correct
> url
> kk
>

The link works but someone has changed the content since yesterday. James
Von Brunn was the webmaster
He was sharing his apartment with his son and his sons girlfriend .
Someone with access has done a hasty editing job on the site, it is totally
different .


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> When i look at you info i wonder becuse it does not get me to the correct
> url
> kk


Read the site. It has now been opened it up, presumably by his son .

QUOTE:

"We have opened up this site as a way to say something about the horrible
tragedy that happened today "

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No it's not, I just went there.

http://www.holywesternempire.com/

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The site www.holywesternempire.org has been taken down and replaced by
www.holywesternempire.com.
Either his son or the FBI took it down.

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I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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This is your version...where is your
proof?

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> I did ue web ferret like it or not.

This is your version...where is your
proof?

> kk

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> When i look at you info i wonder becuse it does not get me to the correct
> url

Your typing can't be any better than
your english or german, that's why

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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No. It wasn't a murder attempt, it was
an attempt to terrorize. He must be
charged as a terrorist and sent to
Guantanomo

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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com>,
xpen...@xearthlink.net wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:36:06 +1200, "PB1952" <paul...@xtra.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>
> Is this guy's on-line name Ben Cramer?

Yes

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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wrote:

> Hey sucker you are at the wrong address here. I have been in computing
> longer than you think.

So what. You've been drinking far longer
than most people.


> The pre invention of the internet has been the
> bulletin board.

That isn't true. BBS's existed at the
same time as the Internet. The internet
was first.


> I did have a bulletin board under the name of Compu-Plus in
> service long before the time of windows and internet explorer.

This is your version...where is your
proof?


We have been
> working under a DOS environment if you know what it was.

Of course I know what it is. I sold DOS
to billie gates


Not only that it
> did I write programs in DOs like accounting and inventory control.

This is your version...where is your
proof?

> All my programs I have written it dbase and clipper.

This is your version...where is your
proof?

> Go and fool someone else you will never have any luck with me.

The idea of getting luck with you is
quite disgusting. Maybe you should try
heinrich

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> Now this is a new one for me.

Then again, what isn't?


> Any new ideas you have let us know

Sure thing. Did you get the email I sent
you?


> I am Curious.

It's impossible for someone who lies as
much as you do to be curious

PB1952

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It is out of service.

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PB1952

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Read this article you might find it enlightening.He really is your type of
guy Kurt.
Note he worked in the IHR bookshop.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/06/10/2009-06-10_holocaust_museum_shooter_james_von_brunns_exwife_says_his_racism_ate_him_alive.html


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Try it oyrself. It's a hole.

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PB1952

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Here's one of his rants from his website .

HITLER'S WORST MISTAKE:
HE DIDN'T GAS THE JEWS.
JAMES VON BRUNN
WWW.HOLYWESTERNEMPIRE.ORG
Remember, the Federal Reserve Act (1913) gave JEWS control of America's
MONEY. Followed by control of America's main sources of information .

Early on, during the war-torn 20th Century, the only broadcast networks :
ABC, CBS, and NBC - were JEW owned. Today, JEWS control ALL important
sources of information (The major networks, Newspapers, Magazines,
Book-publishing, Tin-Pan Alley, Music & Recording Industry, Hollywood,
Encyclopedia Britannica, Public schools and Universities, the Catholic
Church, etc.).

Bit by bit Liberalism ascended. Bit by bit the Constitution was
re-interpreted. Bit by bit government institutions and Congressmen fell into
JEW hands - then U.S. diplomacy, businesses, resources and manpower came
under JEW control.

Whitemen sat on their collective asses and did NOTHING - NOTHING BUT TALK.
Never before in World history has a Nation so completely been conquered with
absolutely NO physical resistance.

Whites LOVE their Enemies.

Today, on the World stage, Whitemen are LAUGHED AT, their women bred by
stronger men.

And America ?

America is a Third-World racial garbage-dump - stupid, ignorant, dead-broke,
and terminal.

Prepare to die, Whitey.

jvb-88


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PB1952

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This March, he wrotethe following email to a list serve complaining about
the recent arrest of a Finnish man:

From: "James W. von Brunn" Subject: FW: Henrik Holappa arrested Date: Tue,
10 Mar 2009 10:15:08 -0400
Millions of low IQ non-whites are encouraged to illegally invade the USA .
They are provided sanctuary, jobs, health-care schooling, by those intent
upon destroying Western Civilization. Whereas, the subject of this email,
Henrik Holappa, the Finn, who has committed no illegal acts, is arrested and
incarcerated illegally by American agents in Marxist employ.

The Henrik Holappa atrocity is a metaphor for the ILLUMINATI conquest of
America: The ILLUMINATI, has captured America illegally, and is
incarcerating her NOW into a Global Zionist state.

Well informed patriots are ignoring the URGENCY, the extreme DANGER
confronting them. There is sparse time remaining. You must ACT NOW. KILL THE
ENEMY OR DIE IN THE GULAG !

He has written that his family is of German/Austrian extraction and settled
in St. Louis in the mid-19th century. Here's the bio on his website:

In 1981 Von Brunn attempted to place the treasonous Federal Reserve Board
of Governors under legal, non-violent, citizens arrest. He was tried in a
Washington, D.C. Superior Court; convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro
attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A
Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in
federal prison. (Read about von Brunn's "Federal Reserve Caper" HERE.) He is
now an artist and author and lives on Maryland's Eastern Shore.

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Kenneth McVay OBC

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[...]

No, it is not. I've reduced it for the riggii impaired:

http://tinyurl.com/lq5e2u

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>I did ue web ferret like it or not.
> kk

Here it is.

Truthseeker

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Who owns .com compared to .org
Kurt Knoll.

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Truthseeker

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Read the posting from PB1952
kk

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Get real its not even his site.
kk

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PB1952

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> Who owns .com compared to .org
> Kurt Knoll.

Erik Von Brunn his son.


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So what good is it when it is offline.
kk

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PB1952

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Fuck you are thick.
I posted a link to James Von Brunns website that works, it is still working.
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Chairman MaObama

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>
> On 11-Jun-2009, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>
>> In article <aussies_suck-F9EB...@aries.ka.weretis.net>,
>> I'll Always Be 11/06/09 <aussie...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >In article
>> ><5e4a3c53-9495-40aa-b0cb-6a7fc45ecd8e@o2
>> >1g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> > george <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Jun 11, 3:28 pm, I'll Always Be 10/06/09
>> >> <aussies_s...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > At 88 the term "neo-nazi" is incorrect
>> >> > on so many levels. More likely he is one
>> >> > of the original nazis.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does kurt know him?
>> >>
>> >> That wanker must be almost coital over one of his type murdering an
>> >> innocent gate keeper in a museum.
>> >> What a waste of space
>> >
>> >The strangest thing is that we don't see
>> >the cramerites fawning over a new hero
>> >and shouting "It was a frame job by the
>> >Jews".
>>
>> Give them time. As soon as von Brunn dies, which
>> hopefully will be today,
>
> I was the bastard to be put on trial.
> Then I want him to go to jail.
> I want him to die in prison.
>
> Susan

Susan, I told you a few years back that things were getting worse and the
JEWS will be blamed. This isn't just in the USA but Jews around the world.
You are living in the age when Jews will be hunted down in the future
because of the collapse.

Right or Wrong, Jews are imbedded with corruption, theft, fraud, political
correctness and liberalism. Other Jews are Fascist (Zionist) in belief and
action. The world is watching and the hate is growing. If the USA goes
belly-up the Jews will be blamed and you will see much worse than some 88
year old guy going off.

If you're rich and Jewish you will become a prime target of violence in the
future. I ask where will you go? it seems the world really hates you. More
and more hatred towards Jews grows everyday.

You have not seen anything yet, it will get much worse with the desperate
looking for some type of payback. History does repeat itself, these
conditions now were exactly the same when Hitler came into power.

Read history Susan and prepare a bailout plan.


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Looks more like a jewish propaganda site to me.
kk

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_ G O D _

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> Looks more like a jewish propaganda site to me.
> kk


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high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
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undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
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I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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This is your version...where is your
proof?

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> Read the posting from PB1952

Which one? Post the messageID, date and
time

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> So what good is it when it is offline.

It isn't

http://web.archive.org/web/2007101013104
0/www.holywesternempire.org/page2.html

I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> Looks more like a jewish propaganda site to me.

what doesn't?

Truthseeker

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Look at it most of the explain there is done by your brethrens.
Kurt Knoll

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I'll Always Be 12/06/09

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> Look at it most of the explain there is done by your brethrens.

This is your version...where is your

PB1952

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My brethren are not white Christians.

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Abbie Hoffman

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>>
>> On 11-Jun-2009, kmc...@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
>>
>>snips

>
>Susan, I told you a few years back that things were getting worse and the
>JEWS will be blamed. This isn't just in the USA but Jews around the world.
>You are living in the age when Jews will be hunted down in the future
>because of the collapse.
>
>Right or Wrong, Jews are imbedded with corruption, theft, fraud, political
>correctness and liberalism. Other Jews are Fascist (Zionist) in belief and
>action. The world is watching and the hate is growing. If the USA goes
>belly-up the Jews will be blamed and you will see much worse than some 88
>year old guy going off.
>
>If you're rich and Jewish you will become a prime target of violence in the
>future. I ask where will you go? it seems the world really hates you. More
>and more hatred towards Jews grows everyday.
>
>You have not seen anything yet, it will get much worse with the desperate
>looking for some type of payback. History does repeat itself, these
>conditions now were exactly the same when Hitler came into power.
>

In many ways, yes. But the most important difference is that weapons
of mass destruction were next to nonexistent before the end of WWII.

The second most important difference is computers, global digital
communications, the Internet, and so forth. The conscientious pen is
not without power of its own. Some say it's "mightier than the sword."
Guess we'll find out.

The ZOG knows its days are numbered. They are 100% evil. Totally
amoral psychopaths! Absolutely antichrist down to their filthy rotten
diabolical cores. The worst demons in Hell have nothing on them,
because they are the worst demons in this infernal Hell here in the
world below. Some say "war is Hell." And the ZOG pigs love to make
war and bring suffering and hardship upon the "goy" world, don't they?

But that doesn't mean that these antichrist demons incarnate from Hell,
or into Hell, depending on your point of view, are 100% "stupid." They
know it's coming. They just don't know exactly when. Because they are
not the ones that will be making that decision. So they can only wonder
and fear the end, not knowing when it will come as a thief in the night.

But the powers that make the decision will determine the actual when
and make it so. Once they decide, they won't have any time or desire to
reconsider. They'll just do it. And with no intention of "asking
questions later." And so it will come as a total surprise to everyone
else in the world going about their "business as usual."

What this means is that "goy," "jew," won't matter. Dead is dead.
And God judges us every one. And Christ said there will be a small
number of "elect goy" survivors to carry on the human race to inhabit
the new, jewless earth. And we know Christ never lies. Ever.

So that's it. Just a small number of survivors. Everyone else in
the world will be dead. No matter, because it's a small price to pay
and a noble sacrifice to make for solving the jewish problem once and
for all. The world will become a "goys only" world living in harmony
with God and nature. No need to outlaw the capital crime of jewsury,
because by then every "goy" in the new world will know that jewsury is
the root of all evil, and was even the cause of the fall of man from
the garden of Eden. Greed and Arrogance. The cause of all evil.

And this evil is what is called "the jewish problem." The biggest
problem in the world. The problem which must be solved no matter what
the cost. No matter what the collateral damage. It will be solved.

The Juwes are
the men that
Will not
be Blamed
for nothing
-W.W. Gull

inva...@invalid.com

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> Look at it most of the explain there is done by your brethrens.
> Kurt Knoll
>


My brethrens are not white, we Jewish peoples are people of many colors,
like the guard who was shot by that bigot was a black man so are we all
colored of many shades, bigot.

Susan

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