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merritt

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Oct 28, 2003, 1:16:26 AM10/28/03
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I am not sure how to begin this -
Living my middle-class life in the NW USA, I just am having a hard time
understanding anti-semitism, both ancient and contemporary.
Why is there so much hatred towards members of the jewish faith?

I cannot understand how one person's religious beliefs, name, customs,
genealogy, etc. determine whether or not that individual is better or worse
than anyone else.

Could someone explain anti-semitism to me in Layman's terms?

Thank you,

Merritt


Susan Cohen

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Oct 28, 2003, 2:56:25 AM10/28/03
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"merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Here is the perfect answer:

http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/

Susan
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merritt
>
>


Binyamin Dissen

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Oct 28, 2003, 4:21:30 AM10/28/03
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:16:26 GMT "merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote:

:>I am not sure how to begin this -

Go the Europe, especially France and The Netherlands, and you will find many
eager to explain to you how the JOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZ control everything
and how the JOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZ are to blame for 9/11, Hitler, etc.

--
Binyamin Dissen <bdi...@dissensoftware.com>
http://www.dissensoftware.com

Daniel Bernard

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Oct 28, 2003, 4:53:27 AM10/28/03
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"Binyamin Dissen" <post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:16:26 GMT "merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> > Go the Europe, especially France and The Netherlands, and you will find
many
> eager to explain to you how the JOOOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZ control
everything
> and how the JOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZ are to blame for 9/11, Hitler, etc.
>
Too bloody right matey. In Europe, we know which side of our bread is
buttered.

llons enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé.
Contre nous, de la tyrannie,
L'étandard sanglant est levé,
l'étandard sanglant est levé,
Entendez-vous, dans la compagnes.
Mugir ces farouches soldats
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Egorger vos fils,
vos compagnes.

Aux armes citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons.

Amour sacré de la Patrie,
Conduis, soutiens nos bras vengeurs,
Liberté, liberté cherie,
Combats avec tes defénseurs;
Combats avec tes défenseurs.
Sous drapeaux, que la victoire
Acoure à tes mâles accents;
Que tes ennemis expirants
Voient ton triomphe et notre gloire!

Aux armes citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons.

Patricia Heil

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Oct 28, 2003, 7:39:46 AM10/28/03
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People who hate need to hate. The target is indiscriminate.
People who hate Jews usually hate other groups as well.

paredon

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Oct 28, 2003, 8:40:21 AM10/28/03
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"merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I am not sure how to begin this -
> Living my middle-class life in the NW USA, I just am having a hard time
> understanding anti-semitism, both ancient and contemporary.
> Why is there so much hatred towards members of the jewish faith?
Arabs do not hate Jews or jewish faith. It is what Jews do that Arabs hate.
And I do not need to tell you what Jews are doing.

>
> I cannot understand how one person's religious beliefs, name, customs,
> genealogy, etc. determine whether or not that individual is better or
worse
> than anyone else.
It doesn't! Arabs have always respected Jewish religion, and there have
never been any pogroms against Jews in Arab countries.

>
> Could someone explain anti-semitism to me in Layman's terms?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merritt
Israelis claim to be semites, which they are not, since they are mostly
Slavs who took Jewish faith.
In other words the word "anti semitism" is a misnomer. All Arabs are semites
since they speak the
semitic language. An Arab BTW is defined to be any person who speaks Arabic!


paredon

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Oct 28, 2003, 8:43:16 AM10/28/03
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"Susan Cohen" <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Yep, if you listen to this shiksa you will soon belive that the Palestinian
children are terrorists and Zionists have to shoot them because they hate
jews!


paredon

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Oct 28, 2003, 8:45:39 AM10/28/03
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"Binyamin Dissen" <post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote in message
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Are you suggesting that they do not? In that case explain how come one jew,
Paul Wolfowitz has managed to send American kids to die for Greater israel?


paredon

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Oct 28, 2003, 8:47:35 AM10/28/03
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"Daniel Bernard" <huggingcathy@châteaubernard.co.uk> wrote in message
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I guess it is Marsellesse, that right?


Daniel Bernard

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"paredon" <pinksp...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> > I guess it is Marsellesse, that right?
>
Spot on


Yechidah

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Oct 28, 2003, 1:50:20 PM10/28/03
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"merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's soul is
too bright for negatively charged individual souls.

This inability to be like the light souls (Jews) initially causes intense
shame (at feelings of being spiritually flawed). At a certain point of
continued failing in life that the internal shame develops a need for an
outlet and become externalized. It is at this point that the shame is
transformed into a demon.

The spiritual feeding of the *shamed demons of a negative soul* is called
anti-semitism. Blood lust is one of the vices of the demon of anti-semitism.


YS


Susan Cohen

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Oct 28, 2003, 4:43:25 PM10/28/03
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"Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:_Qnnb.36205$ao4.79117@attbi_s51...
>
> > Could someone explain anti-semitism to me in Layman's terms?
>
> In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's soul
is
> too bright for negatively charged individual souls.

You know, that's the "standing-on-one-foot" version of what I posted!

http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/


Thank you so much for encapsulating it so beautifully.

Susan

Mark S

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Oct 28, 2003, 10:17:28 PM10/28/03
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"The evil of Hitler lay not in his perception or his understanding of who
the Jewish people are. His evil grew from his reactions to that
understanding. Ironically, Hitler had a clearer understanding of who the
Jewish people are, and what they have accomplished, than most Jews have
today."

Mark S
--
Replace nospam with yahoo to reply
http://www.mwillett.org/mark/


Joseph Hertzlinger

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Oct 29, 2003, 1:18:30 AM10/29/03
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:16:26 GMT, merritt <merrit...@comcast.net>
wrote:

First, human beings in general hate strangers. Second, human beings
tend to imitate what others have done in the past. This means we, as a
strangers in most nations, will be hated. To make matters worse, since
we have been strangers wherever we have lived for millennia, people
who are looking for a strange group to hate will find a lot of
anti-Jewish material to imitate. (This type of slime is highly
unoriginal.)

Another difference between us and other groups of strangers is that
other peoples tend to disappear after being strangers for a while.

Persecution of Jews goes along with persecution of others as well. In
the late Middle Ages and early modern times, we were kicked out of
England, France, Spain, Portugal, and "several planets in the Trifid
nebula" (according to "How to Be an Extremely Reform Jew"). In the
same time period, there were witch hunts, the Japanese persecution of
Christians, the Moslem persecution of the Sikhs, the annihilation of
90% of native Americans, and the Romany were forced to start
wandering. The era 1300--1700 was a terrible period for any minority
group and we happened to be the most visible minority in Western
Europe.

Similarly, the mid-20th-century Jewish Holocaust occurred at the same
time as the Ukrainian Holocaust and the rape of Nanking. Even the US
had an unamerican degree of immigration restrictions as well as a
willingness to send second-generation Japanese to concentration camps.

--
http://hertzlinger.blogspot.com

Joseph Hertzlinger

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Oct 29, 2003, 1:20:13 AM10/29/03
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:45:39 GMT, paredon
<pinksp...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Are you suggesting that they do not? In that case explain how come
> one jew, Paul Wolfowitz has managed to send American kids to die for
> Greater israel?

Wasn't he on the front lines?

--
http://hertzlinger.blogspot.com

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 29, 2003, 2:42:35 AM10/29/03
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:50:20 GMT, "Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

HaShem's been fucking with your head again, Yechi. 'Anti-semitism'®
is caused by nothing other than jew behaviour.

--
"If I'd known I'd have picked the cotton myself"
- Bumper sticker seen in Virginia

Michael Ejercito

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Oct 29, 2003, 11:13:44 AM10/29/03
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"paredon" <pinksp...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<7qunb.9450$FI2....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Iraq was a greater threat than Israel, as proven by its leaders'
refusal to comply with a ceasefire they agreed to to end a war they
started. It is sort of like supporting the Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics against Nazi Germany. The Germans were the more immediate
threat than the Soviets, so the U.S. supported the Soviets.


Michael

Staticenz

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Oct 29, 2003, 1:10:37 PM10/29/03
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Speaking about the term "anti-semitism"

>In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's soul
is
>too bright for negatively charged individual souls.
>
>This inability to be like the light souls (Jews) initially causes intense
>shame (at feelings of being spiritually flawed). At a certain point of
>continued failing in life that the internal shame develops a need for an
>outlet and become externalized. It is at this point that the shame is
>transformed into a demon.

Is this written somewhere? Is this what Jews truly believe?


steve wolk

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Oct 29, 2003, 4:04:22 AM10/29/03
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"Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
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Of course not. It's what Jew-haters want YOU to believe it's what Jews
believe.


Yechidah

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Oct 29, 2003, 4:23:21 PM10/29/03
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"steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:xoTnb.5255$D87....@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > Speaking about the term "anti-semitism"
> >
> > >In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's
soul
> > is
> > >too bright for negatively charged individual souls.
> > >
> > >This inability to be like the light souls (Jews) initially causes
intense
> > >shame (at feelings of being spiritually flawed). At a certain point of
> > >continued failing in life that the internal shame develops a need for
an
> > >outlet and become externalized. It is at this point that the shame is
> > >transformed into a demon.
> >
> > Is this written somewhere? Is this what Jews truly believe?
> >
>


Yechidah Sarai wrote this. It's my belief based on what I know to be True.

I should add this note:

As soon as the Jews begin to love Hashem and each other unconditionally, all
anti-semitism in the world will cease.

Yechidah

Allan Lindsay-O'Neal

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Oct 29, 2003, 5:38:20 PM10/29/03
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"Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Is this written somewhere? Is this what Jews truly believe?

It's what the skinheads would have you believe the Jews believe.

Try attending a service in your local synagogue sometime. You'll meet with
more "Christian" attitudes in there in one hour than you will in a week out
on the street.


Roy Jose Lorr

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Oct 29, 2003, 7:05:49 PM10/29/03
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merritt wrote:

There are two world views. The oldest, from time forgotten, and
universally prevalent is that of Idolatry, wherein human designed
"morals" pander to the base desires of men.. The newer world view,
dating from the Sinaitic Covenant when Absolute Morality was given to
the world and preserved in writing as a gift from Moses' God,
challenges those same desires and the immorality they inspire.

The Idolatrous world hates, and would murder the God who imposed
Absolute Morality. It is an affront to the world used to inventing
morals by caprice and expedience. By extension, those in the world who
agree to obsessively carry, so to speak, these anti Idolatry,
instructions for moral existence in their hip pocket are slated for the
death the Idolater cannot visit on their victims' God. They believe
that with the extermination of the carrier of God's Absolute Morality,
Moses' God's moral dictates will vanish and things will return
unopposed to the longed for, immoral Idolatrous norm.
--

The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.


Susan Cohen

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Oct 29, 2003, 7:44:19 PM10/29/03
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"steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
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>

What's wrong with saying (in other words) "mean people hate Jews"?

Susan
>
>


steve wolk

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Oct 29, 2003, 11:18:20 AM10/29/03
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"Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> "steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
> news:HoKdnfu0WL3...@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:xoTnb.5255$D87....@twister.austin.rr.com...
> > > Speaking about the term "anti-semitism"
> > >
> > > >In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's
> soul
> > > is
> > > >too bright for negatively charged individual souls.
> > > >
> > > >This inability to be like the light souls (Jews) initially causes
> intense
> > > >shame (at feelings of being spiritually flawed). At a certain point
of
> > > >continued failing in life that the internal shame develops a need for
> an
> > > >outlet and become externalized. It is at this point that the shame is
> > > >transformed into a demon.
> > >
> > > Is this written somewhere? Is this what Jews truly believe?
> > >
> >
>
>
> Yechidah Sarai wrote this. It's my belief based on what I know to be True.

It may be that you and a tiny minority of Jews (IF you are really a Jew)
believe this. If you do, you are no better than the Jew-haters who believe
ALL Jews believe it.

>
> I should add this note:
>
> As soon as the Jews begin to love Hashem and each other unconditionally,
all
> anti-semitism in the world will cease.

Dream on.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:23:21 GMT, "Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

LOL!!! Not before jews begin to behave like human beings.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:18:20 -0500, "steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com>
wrote:

>
>"Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ddWnb.9804$X22....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>>
>> "steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
>> news:HoKdnfu0WL3...@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > "Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:xoTnb.5255$D87....@twister.austin.rr.com...
>> > > Speaking about the term "anti-semitism"
>> > >
>> > > >In Kabbalistic/psychological terms, the light of the Jewish people's
>> soul
>> > > is
>> > > >too bright for negatively charged individual souls.
>> > > >
>> > > >This inability to be like the light souls (Jews) initially causes
>> intense
>> > > >shame (at feelings of being spiritually flawed). At a certain point
>of
>> > > >continued failing in life that the internal shame develops a need for
>> an
>> > > >outlet and become externalized. It is at this point that the shame is
>> > > >transformed into a demon.
>> > >
>> > > Is this written somewhere? Is this what Jews truly believe?
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Yechidah Sarai wrote this. It's my belief based on what I know to be True.
>
>
>
>It may be that you and a tiny minority of Jews (IF you are really a Jew)
>believe this. If you do, you are no better than the Jew-haters who believe
>ALL Jews believe it.

Of course she's a jew, Wolkman. Could anyone else be so fucked up?

>> I should add this note:
>>
>> As soon as the Jews begin to love Hashem and each other unconditionally,
>all
>> anti-semitism in the world will cease.
>
>
>
>Dream on.

Quite so. Jew behaviour towards goys causes 'anti-semitism'®;
nothing else.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 30, 2003, 12:49:30 AM10/30/03
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Another goddam shabbos goy.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 30, 2003, 12:49:34 AM10/30/03
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>Suzy

It's incorrect, Suzy. That's what's wrong with it. But don't worry:
you're unaffected - you're Irish.

steve wolk

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"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rene...@anglican.org> wrote in message
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Really? It's YOUR behavior that causes a small minoroity of Jews (like Y)
to think the way they do. Assholes like you, my dear Razovic or whatever
your real name is, are born, not made

Susan Cohen

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Oct 30, 2003, 2:10:56 AM10/30/03
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"steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com> wrote in message
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>
> It may be that you and a tiny minority of Jews (IF you are really a Jew)
> believe this. If you do, you are no better than the Jew-haters who
believe
> ALL Jews believe it.

You are mistaking what she said.
If you read it carefully, you would believe it yourself.
The first line was all-instructive: it refered to the light of Jewish souls
being painful for NEGATIVE persons.
In other words, what Jews represent is painful for EVIL people!!

http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/

Susan


Tilly

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Oct 30, 2003, 6:50:12 AM10/30/03
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Yechidah wrote:
> As soon as the Jews begin to love Hashem and each other
> unconditionally, all anti-semitism in the world will cease.

So you aren't one of the Lubavitchers who believe that all it will take is
for Rabbi Schneerson to come back as the Messiah Yechidah?

Tilly

Mishima

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Oct 30, 2003, 9:49:05 AM10/30/03
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rene...@anglican.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in message news:<3fa0a4f5...@news.tiscali.co.uk>...

> It's incorrect, Suzy. That's what's wrong with it.

I must agree with the Rev here.

After all, it's much more accurate to say that only braindead,
moronic, childish haters with their thumbs up their asses (and who
badly need psychiatric care) reflexively hate all Jews merely for
their ethnicity.

YSarai

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Furthermore, the way to eradicate this plague of evil cloaked as
anti-semitism is to be happy, blissful and trusting in the wisdom of God
who in His infinite wisdom. As He places these entities in our lives
that they may serve as CONTEXT for our light to shine EVEN more brightly!

Blessings,
Yechidah


YSarai

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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:


The logic of a rapist.

YS


YSarai

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Tilly,

If you would like to learn about the Rebbe's teachings, which were ALL
about Ve-aHavta (Loving your fellow Jew) great.

Here is what this great, kind, generous and holy leader of Israel has
said about Moshiach and random acts of kindness:


Loving a fellow Jew and loving G-d

The Connection Between Ahavas Yisrael and Ahavas HaShem
The Zohar teaches that G-d, Torah and Israel are one. it therefore
follows that the love for G-d (ahavas HaShem), the love for Torah
(ahavas HaTorah), and ahavas Yisrael are one.[1] Since the essence of
G-d, Torah and Israel is one, and an essence is indivisible; therefore,
when one grasps a part of the essence one has the whole essence.[2]
For this reason:


Ahavas Yisrael is an indicator for ahavas HaShem, i.e., if a person is
lacking in ahavas Yisrael, he is lacking in ahavas HaShem,[3] for one
who loves the father should surely love the children.[4]

In ahavas Yisrael lies ahavas HaShem, i.e., ahavas Yisrael is a
demonstration of ahavas HaShem. The soul of a Jew is literally a "part
of the Divine"[5] as explained above in Tanya, chapter 32, and therefore
when one loves the Divine within the Jew, that is actually ahavas HaShem.[6]

Ahavas Yisrael is the vessel for ahavas HaShem.[7] Through practicing
ahavas Yisrael, one will eventually come to ahavas HaShem and ahavas
HaTorah. One who works on his ahavas Yisrael will reach great heights in
his ahavas HaShem.[8]

When one sees a Jew who only has ahavas Yisrael, one must see to it
that: 1. he must also be brought to ahavas HaShem and ahavas HaTorah,
and 2. his ahavas Yisrael should not only extend to feeding the needy,
but should lead him to bring other Jews to ahavas HaShem and ahavas
HaTorah.[9]
Between the three loves, ahavas HaShem, ahavas HaTorah and ahavas
Yisrael, ahavas Yisrael is the greatest, for if one possesses true
ahavas Yisrael, one automatically has ahavas HaShem and ahavas HaTorah.
One who has ahavas HaShem does not necessarily have ahavas HaTorah, and
one who has ahavas HaTorah does not necessarily have ahavas Yisrael.[10]

Ahavas Yisrael is greater than ahavas HaShem as the verse[11] itself
testifies, "I love you, says G-d." Therefore when one has ahavas
Yisrael, one loves that which the beloved G-d loves.[12]

Furthermore, the three loves correspond to the three pillars upon which
the world stands:[13] Ahavas Yisrael corresponds to acts of kindness,
ahavas HaTorah to Torah, and ahavas HaShem to avodah.[14]

A further comparison may be drawn from ahavas HaShem to ahavas Yisrael:
The Sages[15] comment on the verse[16] "And you shall love the L-rd your
G-d," that the imperative to love, ve'ahavta, suggests also that the
name of the L-rd your G-d should become beloved through you, i.e., that
others will come to love G-d through your actions. The same may be
applied to ahavas Yisrael, i.e., that one's ahavas Yisrael should be in
such a way that one's friend becomes beloved through you.[17]


The Resting of the Divine Presence (Shechinah)
When there is unity among the Jewish people:

the Shechinah rests with them.[18] When there is fragmentation,[19] the
Shechinah removes itself for it cannot rest in an incomplete place.[20]

G-d does not look at the people's misdeeds.[21] The reason for this is
that when Jews are together, the Shechinah rests between them, and the
Shechinah itself does not wish to see its own defect. However when there
is hatred among Jews (G-d forbid), there is a separation between the
Shechinah and Israel, which causes G-d to see the misdeeds of Israel in
general, and in particular, the misdeeds of the individual who is the
source of the hatred.[22]

G-d fulfills the people's requests and listens to their prayers and
supplications. The people of Israel are the children of G-d, and when
the Father sees the children living with each other in a spirit of
mutual love and care, each one putting aside his own worries in order to
calm and offset the worries and needs of the other, then the Father
takes great pleasure from his children and He works wonders to fulfill
their requests.[23]

In this vein:

The blessings that are received and given at a Chassidishe farbrengen -
a gathering in the true spirit of ahavas Yisrael - can arouse G-d's
mercy even more than the angel Michoel can arouse on behalf of the
Jewish people.[24]

When a Jew sighs over the troubles of another, that sigh has the power
to break through partitions of steel which may be in heaven created by
accusing angels, and conversely, the joy which one Jew expresses when he
hears of the simchah of another and the blessing he gives him is
accepted by G-d as much as the prayer of Rabbi Yochanan the High Priest
when he entered the Holy of Holies.[25]

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/ahavas-yisroel/03.htm

When you get to the essence of this matter you will see that there is a
DIRECT correspondence between MOSHIACH, REDEMPTION and LOVE.


Yechidah

YSarai

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Oct 30, 2003, 1:09:43 PM10/30/03
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Mishima wrote:


Well, if you wish to put it ~that~ way, I won't argue with you.

Carry on.

Yechidah

Charles Don Hall

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rene...@anglican.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in
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[Nonsense deleted.]

Now, how did you wriggle out of my killfile this time?

Oh, you finally learned how to spell "renegade" and "anglican". Good for
you! Since you've gotten it right, you won't be needing to change your
address anymore, right?

--
======================================
Charles Don Hall, Licensed Philosopher
======================================

Tilly

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Oct 30, 2003, 7:18:27 PM10/30/03
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YSarai wrote:
> Tilly wrote:
>> Yechidah wrote:
>>
>>> As soon as the Jews begin to love Hashem and each other
>>> unconditionally, all anti-semitism in the world will cease.
>>
>>
>> So you aren't one of the Lubavitchers who believe that all it will
>> take is for Rabbi Schneerson to come back as the Messiah Yechidah?
>>
>> Tilly
>>
>>
>>
> Tilly,
>
> If you would like to learn about the Rebbe's teachings, which were ALL
> about Ve-aHavta (Loving your fellow Jew) great.

I have already raead many of the Rabbis teachings.
Why are you avoiding answering my question Yechida?

Tilly
Bri...@hotmail.com


webm...@liberman.com

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"merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<_Qnnb.36205$ao4.79117@attbi_s51>...
> I am not sure how to begin this -
> Living my middle-class life in the NW USA, I just am having a hard time
> understanding anti-semitism, both ancient and contemporary.
> Why is there so much hatred towards members of the jewish faith?
>
> I cannot understand how one person's religious beliefs, name, customs,
> genealogy, etc. determine whether or not that individual is better or worse
> than anyone else.
>
> Could someone explain anti-semitism to me in Layman's terms?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Merritt

There are several supposed causes to anti-Semitism, but the main one,
to be blunt, is resentment. Jews have alway been successful in
whatever endeavor they've taken to heart, be it business, science,
law, entertainment, academia, finance, what have you.

Now, there are those whose lives are, shall we say, less than
satisfying, to those who lead them. So, rather than take any
responsibily for their failings, they prefer to blame exogenous
factors, the world, and particularly those whose success they
grudgingly admire, the Jews.

Now then, once you've made up your mind to resent a particular person
or group, then all incoming information about that person or group
gets weighed by such pre-existing predjudices.In other words, if you
set out to find damaging things to say about someone, you're going to
find it, or exagerate it, or simply create it. All this to try to
raise one's self-esteem.

They'll tell you that Jews control Wall Street, Hollywood, the media,
etc., and other businesses, which, though meant disparagingly, is in
itself an acknowledgement of the aforementioned success. The
implication of their outcry is that they would prefer their own lives,
such as they are, to the ones they attempt to denunciate.

Of course, these people will reject this thesis, for to do otherwise
would mean facing the reality of their own unhappy existences. They'll
blame it on this Jewish character trait or that Jewish behavioural
pattern. They'll cite specific instance of Jewish misconduct, as if it
was reflective of Jewry at large, or as if non-Jews would themselves
bear that same scrutiny.

You'll have to judge for yourself how much merit their claims hold.
You might, however, which to consider this: why would supposedly
intellegent, well-adjusted individuals spend to much time and effort
trying to denounce the Jews, and just why is it they have so much time
to pursue it?

Tilly

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YSarai wrote:
>
> The logic of a rapist.

You hit the nail on the head Yechida!!!!!!!!

Tilly
--
Bri...@hotmail.com


Yechidah

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"Tilly" <Bri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Drop your assumptions of me, because you won't be able to comprehend with
your logic, as much as it appears that you're trying to understand.

There is a time and place for all things, Tilly. This is just not it.


Blessings,
Yechidah


Yechidah

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Oct 30, 2003, 9:33:58 PM10/30/03
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"Tilly" <Bri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> YSarai wrote:
> >
> > The logic of a rapist.
>
> You hit the nail on the head Yechida!!!!!!!!
>

I was aiming a little lower.

:)


Yechidah

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:24:26 PM10/31/03
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:32:07 GMT, YSarai <TheHeal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Oh dear, Yechi. You wrote the word "God" in full. HaShem's going to
fuck you up real bad for that.

>Blessings,

B"llocks.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:18 PM10/31/03
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:19:50 -0500, "steve wolk" <Bar...@Seville.com>
wrote:

You're trying to blame me for jew behaviour? Such a chutzpah already.

> Assholes like you, my dear Razovic or whatever
>your real name is, are born, not made

Blow it out your fat jew ass, Wolkman (to give you your de-Anglicised
name back). You're a retard.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:19 PM10/31/03
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Jews will be happy to tell you that they have no ethnicity as such.
And it's jew behaviour that inspires 'anti-semitism'®.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:19 PM10/31/03
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More correctly, what jews represent is evil for everybody else.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:20 PM10/31/03
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:47:21 GMT, YSarai <TheHeal...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

The reverse logic of a jew.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:21 PM10/31/03
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:12:46 +1300, "Tilly" <Dit...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>YSarai wrote:
>>
>> The logic of a rapist.
>
>You hit the nail on the head Yechida!!!!!!!!

Were you "asking for it" when you got raped, Madame?

>Tilly
>--
>Dit...@hotmail.com

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Oct 31, 2003, 12:25:22 PM10/31/03
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:31:19 -0600, Charles Don Hall
<cdhall_public_remove_this@and_this_pobox.com> wrote:

>rene...@anglican.org (The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote in
>news:3fa0a4dd...@news.tiscali.co.uk:
>
>[Nonsense deleted.]
>
>Now, how did you wriggle out of my killfile this time?

It's not difficult with incompetent assholes like you.

>Oh, you finally learned how to spell "renegade" and "anglican". Good for
>you! Since you've gotten it right, you won't be needing to change your
>address anymore, right?

Nope.

Mishima

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"Yechidah" <yech...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<qSjob.14808$FI2....@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> I was aiming a little lower.
>
> :)
>
>
> Yechidah

Yeah, but can you hit a target that is that small on a whaat POWUH ranger? ;-)

Joseph Hertzlinger

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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:10:56 GMT, Susan Cohen <fla...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> You are mistaking what she said.
> If you read it carefully, you would believe it yourself.
> The first line was all-instructive: it refered to the light of Jewish souls
> being painful for NEGATIVE persons.
> In other words, what Jews represent is painful for EVIL people!!
>
> http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/

In other words, evil Jews hate themselves.

--
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Susan Cohen

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"Joseph Hertzlinger" <jcyclespersec...@nine.reticulatedcom.com>
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That, too, of course.

Susan


Yechidah

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"Susan Cohen" <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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So that they that love Hashem will bring them back into the fold.

Duh.. :)

Blessings,

Yechidah


Greta

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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:21:30 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
<post...@dissensoftware.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 06:16:26 GMT "merritt" <merrit...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>:>I am not sure how to begin this -


>:>Living my middle-class life in the NW USA, I just am having a hard time
>:>understanding anti-semitism, both ancient and contemporary.
>:>Why is there so much hatred towards members of the jewish faith?
>
>:>I cannot understand how one person's religious beliefs, name, customs,
>:>genealogy, etc. determine whether or not that individual is better or worse
>:>than anyone else.

What complicates the situation immensely is that many people who do
not hate Jews at all are unfairly labelled "anti-Semites" by
neo-conservative, war-mongering lobby groups for entirely
opportunistic reasons. These pro-Israeli, quasi-fascist hate groups
have cynically exploited the word "anti-Semite" to such an extent that
the expression no longer holds any meaning. These groups have even
gone so far as to label many Jews "anti-Semites" , simply for
expressing an opinion contrary to their agenda! To answer your
question, most of the hatred towards Jews today is a backlash to the
actions of these Zionist hate groups, which have gotten into the habit
of claiming that their selfish beliefs and agendas should be taken as
representative of all Jews...
...which is not the case, as the following quote attests:
"The Zionist experiment has reached its inevitable conclusion. Death
tolls mount and no viable solution is in sight. Slowly the Jewish
people are awakening to the reality of Zionism, its rejection of Torah
views of exile and redemption, combined with its aggressive stance
towards Gentiles in general and Palestinians in particular."
-- Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss


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