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Jews: please read this then you know U$A is a dangerous spot, get out.
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Jos Boersema
May 6, 2012, 4:38:35 PM5/6/12
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http://extremeprejudiceusa.wordpress.com/2012/05/05/ndaa-military-detention-plots-citizen-re-education-for-activist-inmates/
Up until now it seems that the evidence that the U$A is becoming a tyranny,
and what it is going to mean, would only work on people with historical
sensibilities (and fears, perhaps.) Strangely no people should have that as
much as the Jews, yet they don't seem to be as concerned as they should be.
Remember Germany which was "the best exile ever" and "the homeland away from
home." Jews loved Germany ! In fact it is a nice country, with a great
infrastructure. But we all know what happened. Nobody could believe it, even
when it was already underway, when it was already over many still can't
belief it. Now it is happening to the U$A: Roman style republic and economy
goes the way of Rome.
Not *yet* do they mention they want to concentrate and then murder the Jews.
What is the likelyhood would-be tyrants will NEGLECT to destroy every Jew
they can find ? Who is known for social activism, and who is on the receiving
end of that hmmm ? You think they don't know ? You want to take your chances ?
But where to go then, to the largely seemingly insane nation of Israel ?
I really don't know where else it is safe, but it sure can't be the U$A,
especially under this Obama character. BUT if you think Obama is great, then
you are perhaps such an idolator that Israel doesn't need you. You fall too
quickly for BS, hard to build any sort of a democracy with people like that.
Sorry, but it's true. Sorry for babling too long (again), go read the article
and make sure you can escape that developing tyranny.
PS I have not yet found a confirmation that the U$A wants to murder Jews, that
is only my speculation.
Notably 'the autistics' have said: get back to Eretz Israel immediately,
if you don't you will face horrific concequences. http://www.dani18.com
I belief in them, in these autistics, go read that too.
Jews, get a calculator, look into the national debt, recall what happened
to Germany, realize how evil the people are that rule this world, and do
what you can to safe yourselves. Did you know they want to close the U$A
border for people owing taxes ? That is the first attempt at keeping people
there, what will you do once you are caught in their net ? You might already
not escape now. Oh my god oh my god it is all happening again, poor Jews,
poor foolish world. This time it will be far worse then world war 2, which
was the first nuclear war; this time they won't have two experimental weapons
only ... and if you want to think they won't use them, you just don't even
know who you're dealing with yet, fool. They will, since when do you think
they cared, since when do you know what nukes can and can't do ? They want
to rule the world, same old story, but it has 7 000 000 000 persons on it.
You may not realize it, but that is a lot of people to rule, okay ? It is
not manageable, it is just such an extreme amount of people and the complexity
of it all is just totally overwhelming. Hence it makes perfect sense they
want to cut that by as much as 95%. If you think such people don't exist,
that plan and actually do such things, then you're just another fool on a
foolish plannet ruled by professional multi-generational maffias. Safe
yourself if you can. But if you can't then prepare to fight and die fighting.
I think it is better to die fighting then in a prison hole, quicker too
hopefully. You'll live your last breaths a free man. Poor Jews, why was it
so hard to listen to my proposal ? Why where you so quick to ignore it.
You think you know it all ? You think you're invulnerable, confused Jew that
you are ? You think that the errors of your creed will ever become acceptible,
so that you can avoid the embarrassement of Hillel, Maimonides and Herzl,
among others such as Akiva ? For your own sake that will never be possible.
Sorry. You will have to eat your shame and regret on those things, because
you where wrong and guilty over your own exile.
Now soon it seems, another big hunt on Jews will begin. Remember that I was
here long before, told you what you could do, but you ignored it. Do not
blame your G.d in 15 years when maybe this is all over, blame yourselves.
I did the best I could. Don't blame anyone for tarrying but yourselves.
Still it *may* be possible to run the redemption, at least in Eretz Israel,
and stave off the worst as people in many nations will take a liking to what
happens and refuse to for example bomb the hell out of Yisroel. Or at least
a little less, it's worth a try even now. It is always worth a try, as it
means Justice. If you don't do it now, it still have to be done later some
time. Why make the trouble worse by postponing.
About the U$A: why don't you ask the red nation what pale faces are all about.
They know a lot about it, and they can tell you. Stop trusting these Americans,
I mean their ruling class, but those are the ones that decide anyway, no
matter how nice the commoners may be. The rest follows their lead, they have
no resistacne to the criminals in power, or precious little - less then the
Europeans have against their bosses, which is already not a lot either.
--
http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
>> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
>> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
Up until now it seems that the evidence that the U$A is becoming a tyranny,
and what it is going to mean, would only work on people with historical
sensibilities (and fears, perhaps.) Strangely no people should have that as
much as the Jews, yet they don't seem to be as concerned as they should be.
Remember Germany which was "the best exile ever" and "the homeland away from
home." Jews loved Germany ! In fact it is a nice country, with a great
infrastructure. But we all know what happened. Nobody could believe it, even
when it was already underway, when it was already over many still can't
belief it. Now it is happening to the U$A: Roman style republic and economy
goes the way of Rome.
Not *yet* do they mention they want to concentrate and then murder the Jews.
What is the likelyhood would-be tyrants will NEGLECT to destroy every Jew
they can find ? Who is known for social activism, and who is on the receiving
end of that hmmm ? You think they don't know ? You want to take your chances ?
But where to go then, to the largely seemingly insane nation of Israel ?
I really don't know where else it is safe, but it sure can't be the U$A,
especially under this Obama character. BUT if you think Obama is great, then
you are perhaps such an idolator that Israel doesn't need you. You fall too
quickly for BS, hard to build any sort of a democracy with people like that.
Sorry, but it's true. Sorry for babling too long (again), go read the article
and make sure you can escape that developing tyranny.
PS I have not yet found a confirmation that the U$A wants to murder Jews, that
is only my speculation.
Notably 'the autistics' have said: get back to Eretz Israel immediately,
if you don't you will face horrific concequences. http://www.dani18.com
I belief in them, in these autistics, go read that too.
Jews, get a calculator, look into the national debt, recall what happened
to Germany, realize how evil the people are that rule this world, and do
what you can to safe yourselves. Did you know they want to close the U$A
border for people owing taxes ? That is the first attempt at keeping people
there, what will you do once you are caught in their net ? You might already
not escape now. Oh my god oh my god it is all happening again, poor Jews,
poor foolish world. This time it will be far worse then world war 2, which
was the first nuclear war; this time they won't have two experimental weapons
only ... and if you want to think they won't use them, you just don't even
know who you're dealing with yet, fool. They will, since when do you think
they cared, since when do you know what nukes can and can't do ? They want
to rule the world, same old story, but it has 7 000 000 000 persons on it.
You may not realize it, but that is a lot of people to rule, okay ? It is
not manageable, it is just such an extreme amount of people and the complexity
of it all is just totally overwhelming. Hence it makes perfect sense they
want to cut that by as much as 95%. If you think such people don't exist,
that plan and actually do such things, then you're just another fool on a
foolish plannet ruled by professional multi-generational maffias. Safe
yourself if you can. But if you can't then prepare to fight and die fighting.
I think it is better to die fighting then in a prison hole, quicker too
hopefully. You'll live your last breaths a free man. Poor Jews, why was it
so hard to listen to my proposal ? Why where you so quick to ignore it.
You think you know it all ? You think you're invulnerable, confused Jew that
you are ? You think that the errors of your creed will ever become acceptible,
so that you can avoid the embarrassement of Hillel, Maimonides and Herzl,
among others such as Akiva ? For your own sake that will never be possible.
Sorry. You will have to eat your shame and regret on those things, because
you where wrong and guilty over your own exile.
Now soon it seems, another big hunt on Jews will begin. Remember that I was
here long before, told you what you could do, but you ignored it. Do not
blame your G.d in 15 years when maybe this is all over, blame yourselves.
I did the best I could. Don't blame anyone for tarrying but yourselves.
Still it *may* be possible to run the redemption, at least in Eretz Israel,
and stave off the worst as people in many nations will take a liking to what
happens and refuse to for example bomb the hell out of Yisroel. Or at least
a little less, it's worth a try even now. It is always worth a try, as it
means Justice. If you don't do it now, it still have to be done later some
time. Why make the trouble worse by postponing.
About the U$A: why don't you ask the red nation what pale faces are all about.
They know a lot about it, and they can tell you. Stop trusting these Americans,
I mean their ruling class, but those are the ones that decide anyway, no
matter how nice the commoners may be. The rest follows their lead, they have
no resistacne to the criminals in power, or precious little - less then the
Europeans have against their bosses, which is already not a lot either.
--
http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
>> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
>> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
NefeshBarYocahi
May 6, 2012, 5:44:31 PM5/6/12
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Look you stupid bastard your mother’s vagina is a dangerous place.
You should broadcast that fact so the cases of AIDS Syphilis, Herpes
and Gonorrhea will go down you fucked up asshole.
You should broadcast that fact so the cases of AIDS Syphilis, Herpes
and Gonorrhea will go down you fucked up asshole.
Jos Boersema
May 7, 2012, 3:05:03 AM5/7/12
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Op 2012-05-06, NefeshBarYocahi schreef <lbit...@gmail.com>:
Now stop bothering because I have a reputation for ranting on and on
about the prozbul and hetter iska to keep up, and this kind of
destraction doesn't look good.
> Look you stupid bastard your mother’s vagina is a dangerous place.
> You should broadcast that fact so the cases of AIDS Syphilis, Herpes
> and Gonorrhea will go down you fucked up asshole.
Coming from someone like you that is a form of admiration, thanks.
> You should broadcast that fact so the cases of AIDS Syphilis, Herpes
> and Gonorrhea will go down you fucked up asshole.
Now stop bothering because I have a reputation for ranting on and on
about the prozbul and hetter iska to keep up, and this kind of
destraction doesn't look good.
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May 7, 2012, 5:53:37 AM5/7/12
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Do U speak for ALL jews?
if so, do u have the balls to let us know where u live and what ur
name is?
do u have balls where none is reputed to exist, as a matter cultural
neccessity?
NefeshBarYocahi
May 7, 2012, 9:59:41 AM5/7/12
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On May 7, 3:53 am, ╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð_ID_SBR_X|||DI©*J*Ω∏lol؟♫1ﷲ☻∞= 8☺╣☼╠?
My name is Jesus Christ. I'm King of the Jews. I live in your heart
and I plan to amputate your minuscule penis asshole. Now fuck off and
die you cocksucking pussy.
and I plan to amputate your minuscule penis asshole. Now fuck off and
die you cocksucking pussy.
╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð_ID_SBR_X|||DI©*J*Ω∏lol؟♫1ﷲ☻∞= 8☺╣☼╠?
May 7, 2012, 10:03:46 AM5/7/12
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How would u like to be CRUCIFIED again, yidmish??
Jos Boersema
May 7, 2012, 10:19:15 AM5/7/12
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/re-education-camp-manual-includes-rules-on-isolating-political-prisoners.html Quote:
(...)
The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
(...)
The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
to U.S. citizens.
(...)
End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
justice ? Is that a beer in our hand ? I thought so.
(...)
The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
(...)
The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
to U.S. citizens.
(...)
End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
justice ? Is that a beer in our hand ? I thought so.
NefeshBarYocahi
May 7, 2012, 11:37:36 AM5/7/12
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On May 7, 8:03 am, ╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð_ID_SBR_X|||DI©*J*Ω∏lol؟♫1ﷲ☻∞= 8☺╣☼╠?
> How would u like to be CRUCIFIED again, yidmish??- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
How would you like me to give you a snap kick to the groin and then a
back fist to your mouth. That virus on you PC sure screws up you
posting because you are a stupid sons the bitch NO FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!
>
> - Show quoted text -
How would you like me to give you a snap kick to the groin and then a
back fist to your mouth. That virus on you PC sure screws up you
posting because you are a stupid sons the bitch NO FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 7, 2012, 3:09:24 PM5/7/12
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Chelsea. Where are U, may be we can arrange a kick off...
Will u be wearing ur ringlets, cupcake?
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 7, 2012, 3:19:50 PM5/7/12
to
On May 7, 3:19 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/re-education-camp-manual-includes-rules-o...Quote:
speak it but can not read or understand anything.
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/re-education-camp-manual-includes-rules-o...Quote:
>
> (...)
>
> The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
> a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
> states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
> unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
> extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
> administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
>
> Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
> Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
> before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
> from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
> uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
> around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
>
> (...)
>
> The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
> security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
> to U.S. citizens.
>
> (...)
>
> End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
> the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
> more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
> at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
> justice ? Is that a beer in our hand ? I thought so.
>
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
> (...)
>
> The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
> a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
> states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
> unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
> extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
> administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
>
> Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
> Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
> before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
> from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
> uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
> around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
>
> (...)
>
> The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
> security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
> to U.S. citizens.
>
> (...)
>
> End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
> the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
> more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
> at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
> justice ? Is that a beer in our hand ? I thought so.
>
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
Thank you. Pity most Jewish people do not understand English. They
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
speak it but can not read or understand anything.
Jos Boersema
May 8, 2012, 3:42:02 AM5/8/12
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Op 2012-05-07, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
if I may ask.
--
> On May 7, 3:19 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/re-education-camp-manual-includes-rules-o...Quote:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
>> a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
>> states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
>> unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
>> extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
>> administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
>>
>> Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
>> Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
>> before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
>> from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
>> uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
>> around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
>> security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
>> to U.S. citizens.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
>> the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
>> more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
>> at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
>> justice ? Is that a beer in your hand ? I thought so.
>> http://www.prisonplanet.com/re-education-camp-manual-includes-rules-o...Quote:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> The document also makes clear that the internment facility is not only
>> a re-education camp but also a forced labor camp. Page 277 of the manual
>> states, “Detainees constitute a significant labor force of skilled and
>> unskilled individuals. These individuals should be employed to the fullest
>> extent possible in work that is needed to construct, manage, perform
>> administrative functions for, and maintain the internment facility.”
>>
>> Page 69 of the manual notes in a section called ‘Detainee Processing
>> Technique’ that prisoners should first have their weapons confiscated
>> before “silence” is guaranteed by methods to, “Prevent detainees
>> from communicating with one another or making audible clamor….Silence
>> uncooperative detainees by muffling them with a soft, clean cloth tied
>> around their mouths and fastened at the backs of their heads.”
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> The manual details how prisoners will be identified by their “social
>> security number,” another glaring confirmation that the rules apply
>> to U.S. citizens.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> End quote. A manual brought to you by the same cliques that where behind
>> the Hitler episode, you better belief it ! The same folks, only now even
>> more battle hardened and experienced. Having far greater technologies
>> at their disposal. Think they won't use them ? Think they want peace and
>
> Thank you. Pity most Jewish people do not understand English. They
> speak it but can not read or understand anything.
You're welcome. What nation are you from, and how are things there,
> Thank you. Pity most Jewish people do not understand English. They
> speak it but can not read or understand anything.
if I may ask.
--
Jos Boersema
May 8, 2012, 4:46:57 PM5/8/12
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The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
even matter for the outcome.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkgyYL2icY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXyLC2-mr8
People warned for Hitler, for what could happen, for war, it was ignored.
People now warn for Obama, for what can happen, for war: it is ignored.
Do the DAVID/9-roads program while you still can, even if it may already
be too late to prevent this tyrannical attempt and the third world war,
even if billions of people can already perhaps not be saved anymore
whatever we do, Justice has to be victorious sooner or later so it better
be sooner. As far as I can see, world war 3 is already 'baked in the cake
now.' You have chosen that way for history over the past 4 years, in which
you continued to do what you have done before; but you could have changed
your way and you chose not to. You where alerted to this new program,
a DAVID/9-roads program leading into a rational trade economy that can
work and a real democracy. That could have been your cue to decide on
another direction, or you could at least have tried, but you did nothing
(nothing much, certainly not more then usual.) Therefore it seems not
realistic anymore to think world war 3 is not going to happen. The
question is now how will we manage to stop world war 3 once it has broken
out, how are we going to react to the challenges and how are we going to
defeat these criminal forces (Generals). How are we going to turn as many
people to the truth, and makea better world for all (except the criminals
of course.)
Do you perhaps understand that you only made it much more difficult by
choosing that world war 3 was going to happen ? It doesn't really matter
what you 'want' in your head, but what your actions in the real world are.
Now we have to make all these changes during enormous wars, famines,
perhaps radiation poisening everywhere, there may also be plagues from
the bio-terror weapons released by our own ruling classes pretending it
is this or that fake terrorist group or real group, and so on. You only
made it much more difficult.
If you STILL refuse to get active then, during world war 3, then it could
get get to a point where it will become truely dreadful to fight
of justice, depending on how this war will go exactly of course; which
is hard to predict. It may also differ per area. The likely result again
will be: if you do nothing again during this war, it will get another time
as difficult. You may now *think* you can hide in a hole. But does fresh
food grow in your hole ? You're a sitting duck and you know it. You think
others will fight and die in this war, because that is how it has often
been ? Wars are total now, non-military suffering gets worse with every
new war. 3 centuries ago there could be an enormous conflagration 10
miles away, Imperial forces battling, but you there might sit peachy fine
under a tree. That is because they fought with hand held bows, arrows,
swords. You did have to content with these soldiers robbing you later,
and raping your daughters previously of course. That too was a hard time.
But today if these Imperial forces go full throttle, everyone knows it
is not going to be pretty.
After the war, comes the occupation: the robbing murdering and raping of
the people. If you want to wait for that then you're waiting only on more
misery to come get you. You have been warned, AJ shows the evidence. It
has happened before, history is full of these things, it is happening now
in the U$A.
Even if they wont explicitly hunt for Jews, they will still hunt for
any type of progressive political attitude, activism, organisations. People
who truely give to charity will probably be classified as increased
'security risks,' because criminals fear those who desire Justice, knowing
those type of people will hunt them down as they should have done already.
Hence a lot of Jews are going to end up in such dragnets, even if Jews are
not explicitly targeted. You have been warned, you have also been shown
the truth about your Torah and how you lie about it destroying your own
nation. I even said I am this 'moshiach' your forefathers have waited on
for so long, which seems to be the case (though I don't even care.) You
THINK you know about these operations, but you don't ! So: all that could
possibly be done to help you has been done, the ball is with you. If you
do nothing, blame yourself. Blame your death on yourself.
You realize, I assume, that 'in heaven' you are guilty as a people over
this prosbul thing to such an extend that you are going to be wiped out
over this, per what is necessary on this planet. I hope you realize that,
so that you will know that you will actually be funneled into these FEMA
camps, and you will just be put to death there at some point. That is to
protect the Torah, from lying Jews; although everyone who is involved
in it will not even know it. The FEMA goons won't know, the Jews as usual
probably won't know, but it will happen. This is how all the progroms of
the past also happened, including the holocaust under Hitler.
So you can sing 'moshiach will come,' once you enter the FEMA death
camps. But your death is part of that, and you will die there, there will
not be a miraculous saving; although I hope you will be fine after death
and eventually see life in a good way. For that goal, it all happens.
The alternative for all that suffering ? Do justice now and stop your
crazy lies abouth prosbul, hetter iska and failing to distrubute the
holy land. Oh yes I also have a program to present to you, I have called
it: DAVID/9-roads. You may want to look into it.
Do you read me ? Do you comprehend this ? Do you understand you are
marked for death, Israel ? Why do you force me to say these things,
seemingly crazy in the eyes of some ? I said it anyway, to help you and
get you out of your coma, that you think you are protected while you are
openly breaking the great Torah law about money and land ! No Israel,
you're going to be cought like the criminal under Torah law that you are,
and heaven is going to execute your sorry arses for it ! Do you understand ?
Safe yourself by stopping your lies about the Torah law, while you still can,
if it is not too late already. What did this Jew here just say: "never"
will they stop with the prosbul, and they even call it a "legal fiction" !
How can you belief you will escape mass condemnation to death at the
management of the unseen forces of heaven ? That is the Torah, that is
how it is all done. You may not know because you are rebels, you are
traitors, but that doesn't mean it won't happen as it has happened before.
You have condemned yourself to destruction, on a national scale. Repent
while you still can.
Do you understand ? It is time up, no more time to play. Either the truth
is done on this planet, truth and Justice, or it is all over. You know
what such a condition justifies ? If no nation wants to do the truth ?
You will be crushed Israel, perhaps like never before, and the few who
escape, maybe they will want to do the truth. Sorry, but you made it that
way yourselves. This is the situation humanity has steered itself into.
Other nations *also* don't want to do the truth, they will also suffer
the concequences on an epic scale, probably. It is the nature of the
situation. I showed the way out, what more could I do ? I even risk being
called crazy, what more could I do ?
You think I would ask you be saved, criminals under Torah law ? Forget it !
Forget it ! There is no way to build a future with such law breakers, your
culture must be destroyed and rectified, or what future is there on this
planet ? You don't understand ? I know; maybe you shouldn't have shortened
your Shabbos at sundown, so that you might have had the rest you needed to
grow a brain. But you knew better, blame yourself for your failing brain,
too.
sigh !
(lol)
Not going to be pretty Jews, the holocaust was the apetizer, and now come
the main course. The gentiles: you too, perhaps you will even get it worse.
Some nations probably will get it a lot worse still then Israel. Blame
yourselves too. Am I sure ? No. Do I speak for heaven ? Nope. Use your own
brain (that's what I try also). Good luck.
and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
even matter for the outcome.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkgyYL2icY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXyLC2-mr8
People warned for Hitler, for what could happen, for war, it was ignored.
People now warn for Obama, for what can happen, for war: it is ignored.
Do the DAVID/9-roads program while you still can, even if it may already
be too late to prevent this tyrannical attempt and the third world war,
even if billions of people can already perhaps not be saved anymore
whatever we do, Justice has to be victorious sooner or later so it better
be sooner. As far as I can see, world war 3 is already 'baked in the cake
now.' You have chosen that way for history over the past 4 years, in which
you continued to do what you have done before; but you could have changed
your way and you chose not to. You where alerted to this new program,
a DAVID/9-roads program leading into a rational trade economy that can
work and a real democracy. That could have been your cue to decide on
another direction, or you could at least have tried, but you did nothing
(nothing much, certainly not more then usual.) Therefore it seems not
realistic anymore to think world war 3 is not going to happen. The
question is now how will we manage to stop world war 3 once it has broken
out, how are we going to react to the challenges and how are we going to
defeat these criminal forces (Generals). How are we going to turn as many
people to the truth, and makea better world for all (except the criminals
of course.)
Do you perhaps understand that you only made it much more difficult by
choosing that world war 3 was going to happen ? It doesn't really matter
what you 'want' in your head, but what your actions in the real world are.
Now we have to make all these changes during enormous wars, famines,
perhaps radiation poisening everywhere, there may also be plagues from
the bio-terror weapons released by our own ruling classes pretending it
is this or that fake terrorist group or real group, and so on. You only
made it much more difficult.
If you STILL refuse to get active then, during world war 3, then it could
get get to a point where it will become truely dreadful to fight
of justice, depending on how this war will go exactly of course; which
is hard to predict. It may also differ per area. The likely result again
will be: if you do nothing again during this war, it will get another time
as difficult. You may now *think* you can hide in a hole. But does fresh
food grow in your hole ? You're a sitting duck and you know it. You think
others will fight and die in this war, because that is how it has often
been ? Wars are total now, non-military suffering gets worse with every
new war. 3 centuries ago there could be an enormous conflagration 10
miles away, Imperial forces battling, but you there might sit peachy fine
under a tree. That is because they fought with hand held bows, arrows,
swords. You did have to content with these soldiers robbing you later,
and raping your daughters previously of course. That too was a hard time.
But today if these Imperial forces go full throttle, everyone knows it
is not going to be pretty.
After the war, comes the occupation: the robbing murdering and raping of
the people. If you want to wait for that then you're waiting only on more
misery to come get you. You have been warned, AJ shows the evidence. It
has happened before, history is full of these things, it is happening now
in the U$A.
Even if they wont explicitly hunt for Jews, they will still hunt for
any type of progressive political attitude, activism, organisations. People
who truely give to charity will probably be classified as increased
'security risks,' because criminals fear those who desire Justice, knowing
those type of people will hunt them down as they should have done already.
Hence a lot of Jews are going to end up in such dragnets, even if Jews are
not explicitly targeted. You have been warned, you have also been shown
the truth about your Torah and how you lie about it destroying your own
nation. I even said I am this 'moshiach' your forefathers have waited on
for so long, which seems to be the case (though I don't even care.) You
THINK you know about these operations, but you don't ! So: all that could
possibly be done to help you has been done, the ball is with you. If you
do nothing, blame yourself. Blame your death on yourself.
You realize, I assume, that 'in heaven' you are guilty as a people over
this prosbul thing to such an extend that you are going to be wiped out
over this, per what is necessary on this planet. I hope you realize that,
so that you will know that you will actually be funneled into these FEMA
camps, and you will just be put to death there at some point. That is to
protect the Torah, from lying Jews; although everyone who is involved
in it will not even know it. The FEMA goons won't know, the Jews as usual
probably won't know, but it will happen. This is how all the progroms of
the past also happened, including the holocaust under Hitler.
So you can sing 'moshiach will come,' once you enter the FEMA death
camps. But your death is part of that, and you will die there, there will
not be a miraculous saving; although I hope you will be fine after death
and eventually see life in a good way. For that goal, it all happens.
The alternative for all that suffering ? Do justice now and stop your
crazy lies abouth prosbul, hetter iska and failing to distrubute the
holy land. Oh yes I also have a program to present to you, I have called
it: DAVID/9-roads. You may want to look into it.
Do you read me ? Do you comprehend this ? Do you understand you are
marked for death, Israel ? Why do you force me to say these things,
seemingly crazy in the eyes of some ? I said it anyway, to help you and
get you out of your coma, that you think you are protected while you are
openly breaking the great Torah law about money and land ! No Israel,
you're going to be cought like the criminal under Torah law that you are,
and heaven is going to execute your sorry arses for it ! Do you understand ?
Safe yourself by stopping your lies about the Torah law, while you still can,
if it is not too late already. What did this Jew here just say: "never"
will they stop with the prosbul, and they even call it a "legal fiction" !
How can you belief you will escape mass condemnation to death at the
management of the unseen forces of heaven ? That is the Torah, that is
how it is all done. You may not know because you are rebels, you are
traitors, but that doesn't mean it won't happen as it has happened before.
You have condemned yourself to destruction, on a national scale. Repent
while you still can.
Do you understand ? It is time up, no more time to play. Either the truth
is done on this planet, truth and Justice, or it is all over. You know
what such a condition justifies ? If no nation wants to do the truth ?
You will be crushed Israel, perhaps like never before, and the few who
escape, maybe they will want to do the truth. Sorry, but you made it that
way yourselves. This is the situation humanity has steered itself into.
Other nations *also* don't want to do the truth, they will also suffer
the concequences on an epic scale, probably. It is the nature of the
situation. I showed the way out, what more could I do ? I even risk being
called crazy, what more could I do ?
You think I would ask you be saved, criminals under Torah law ? Forget it !
Forget it ! There is no way to build a future with such law breakers, your
culture must be destroyed and rectified, or what future is there on this
planet ? You don't understand ? I know; maybe you shouldn't have shortened
your Shabbos at sundown, so that you might have had the rest you needed to
grow a brain. But you knew better, blame yourself for your failing brain,
too.
sigh !
(lol)
Not going to be pretty Jews, the holocaust was the apetizer, and now come
the main course. The gentiles: you too, perhaps you will even get it worse.
Some nations probably will get it a lot worse still then Israel. Blame
yourselves too. Am I sure ? No. Do I speak for heaven ? Nope. Use your own
brain (that's what I try also). Good luck.
Jos Boersema
May 8, 2012, 6:04:56 PM5/8/12
to
Op 2012-05-08, Jos Boersema schreef <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl>:
[...]
Ask yourself: what-if. What if my expectations (and those of others)
are right, and what if they are wrong, what in either case would be
the results of your actions as you did as I propose.
For example someone is saying "it is the end of the world, buy my
book to get saved." What-if ? What-if he is right ? What-if he is
wrong ? In a case like that it will often be a scam, and the result
is you've lost money and the other guy is getting rich. Even if it
was the end of the current culture and mass death was next, would the
book help ? A lot of scams work this way, having to do with the so-called
end of the world or not.
So let's compare this proposal here: what would happen if you did this
DAVID/9-roads program. Would it be costly ? Would it be sad if it was
for no good, like a dike against a flood that never comes ? No: it is
a great economic system that is good whatever the conditions are. Even
if only wonderful crop years and prosperity is to be expected, you should
still do it immediately. You would be bringing people together around
good ideals, they will get the power in these organizations and do
interesting things for themselves. These are good things (and besides
I put all my works in the public domain and don't even accept donations,
you can try to donate to em but I don't even accept it; I don't care for
your money, I don't need it: you use it to get some Justice going in the
world, then thank yourself.)
Ok ? Did we get that ? No ? lol The guy with the arab name is right:
they can read, but not understand, their minds are gone and soon their
lives will be too; they will probably never even understand what has
happened to them and why, screaming their usual about anti-semitism
(which of course is real, but it's not the whole story: their own Torah
law breaking is the key in it all, as the Torah itself informs them ...)
That is sort of the saddest part, that while they run from the attackers,
they carry with them the lies such as the prosbul and hetter iska; almost
sort of like a tracker-beaken that will attract bad events to them, as
it did for traitor Rabbi Akiva, who eventually died a torture death after
having watched nearly all of his students die in a plague and the nation
he tried to set up be crushed by Rome. Jews almost worship this Akiva,
perhaps like Jesus fans worship their Jesus, and so they go the way of
Rabbi Akiva ...
Oh there they sit behind their computers, shacking in fear or laughing
imagining themselves invulnerable to events utterly beyond their control.
How about some hard core dedication Jews, how about some action for Justice.
How about you stop lying about the prosbul Rabbi, you think your lies will
just keep going for infinity ? You think that your lies are true because
you're as obstinate and dogmatic as the worst of the Jesus fans ? Your
corpse can't spout no lies about Torah laws, have you thought of that ?
Your dead corps can't infect future generations of Jews with your lies.
You think heaven playes games with this ? Why do you think all the pogroms
happened ? Why did you loose your nation ? Because of your lies, making
greed the backbone of Jewish finance, obscuring the Torah for all nations,
assigning this planet to a dark future as a concequence. As someone said:
the worst thing isn't the worst thing that happens, but hte corruption of
that which is the best thing. Your lies about the Torah are gravest thing
that happens, because it obscures the view on a proper economy, which is
a rather important elemnt in society, isn't it.
Do you understand ? No ? It doesn't even matter, understand or not you'll
burn up in the ovens if it continues to go the way it goes - and that is
both in Eretz Israel, the U$A or who knows even all over the world; like
'cozy' old times. Who do you think the nations are going to blame when
the mess they made blows up in their faces. They blame themselves ? Or
they blame the bankers and the Jews. Do justice hwile you can, clear your
name and even that way you get the peole of the world on your side - at
least those who are even half way ok. Who can hurt you then ? Nobody.
That is your ticket to safety: do the truth, do Justice - stop the
prosbul and hetter iska, distribute the holy land, while you still got one.
I am not joking. Some may laugh now at this, but they won't be laughing
once WW3 is on the boil. Then the seriousness of the situation will become
apparent and my name would be cleared to a degree of any (apparently)
crazy talk. See ? Just trying to reach you, wherever your warped minds
may be after 2000 years of messing with them by the Hillel and Maimonides
followers, the so-called Rabbonim with their so-called oral tradition and
great authority (greater then the 5 books of Mozes, allowed to break them,
so they think).
Poor Jews, they have lost their brain and will soon loose their lives too.
I did what I could, but there is no safety if you continue to break important
laws; you are then an enemy of the people. Protecting you is destroying
the nation, understand ? The nation has to be protected *against* you,
against the law breaking you preach (prosbul, hetter iska.) If there is
protection from heaven for Israel, it is against these prosbul and hetter
iska fomenters, even to the point where those are put to death on an
industrial scale. Sad but true, I use stark language to shock you into
seeing reality and deal with it fruitfully to safe yourself and curb your
failing behavior and understanding. You think you're safe and shmuck ?
Poor Jew, but alas if you choose to break law, you will face the
concequences then maybe you will learn. It is for your own benefit.
Do you realize the enormity of the violence that is heading for you ?
Now you may think of the 'enormous' embarrassement you will have to admit,
if you admit millennia of lying about the prosbul. The 'enormous' social
cost of choosing the truth. How does that stack up with the enormity of
the real world violence that is heading for the world ? How do you wish
to remember *yourself* when you think about this hard time later; you
want to be glad you chose trooth, or you want to chew endlessly on your
regrets guilt and shame. Yes Rabbi boy, I am talking to you too, or even
primarely. Say the truth to your people and stop lying to them, expose
the prosbul and hetter iska lie and repent for the lies of your creed.
Can't do it ? Feel too shmuck and arrogant, boy ? You realize that you
are talking about *law* don't you ? The Torah is *law*. It's not a painting,
it's not a sports game, it is *law*. I think you know what I mean.
Good luck, to those who deserve it.
[...]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkgyYL2icY
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXyLC2-mr8
>
> People warned for Hitler, for what could happen, for war, it was ignored.
> People now warn for Obama, for what can happen, for war: it is ignored.
> Do the DAVID/9-roads program while you still can,
[...]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkgyYL2icY
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXyLC2-mr8
>
> People warned for Hitler, for what could happen, for war, it was ignored.
> People now warn for Obama, for what can happen, for war: it is ignored.
> Do the DAVID/9-roads program while you still can,
Ask yourself: what-if. What if my expectations (and those of others)
are right, and what if they are wrong, what in either case would be
the results of your actions as you did as I propose.
For example someone is saying "it is the end of the world, buy my
book to get saved." What-if ? What-if he is right ? What-if he is
wrong ? In a case like that it will often be a scam, and the result
is you've lost money and the other guy is getting rich. Even if it
was the end of the current culture and mass death was next, would the
book help ? A lot of scams work this way, having to do with the so-called
end of the world or not.
So let's compare this proposal here: what would happen if you did this
DAVID/9-roads program. Would it be costly ? Would it be sad if it was
for no good, like a dike against a flood that never comes ? No: it is
a great economic system that is good whatever the conditions are. Even
if only wonderful crop years and prosperity is to be expected, you should
still do it immediately. You would be bringing people together around
good ideals, they will get the power in these organizations and do
interesting things for themselves. These are good things (and besides
I put all my works in the public domain and don't even accept donations,
you can try to donate to em but I don't even accept it; I don't care for
your money, I don't need it: you use it to get some Justice going in the
world, then thank yourself.)
Ok ? Did we get that ? No ? lol The guy with the arab name is right:
they can read, but not understand, their minds are gone and soon their
lives will be too; they will probably never even understand what has
happened to them and why, screaming their usual about anti-semitism
(which of course is real, but it's not the whole story: their own Torah
law breaking is the key in it all, as the Torah itself informs them ...)
That is sort of the saddest part, that while they run from the attackers,
they carry with them the lies such as the prosbul and hetter iska; almost
sort of like a tracker-beaken that will attract bad events to them, as
it did for traitor Rabbi Akiva, who eventually died a torture death after
having watched nearly all of his students die in a plague and the nation
he tried to set up be crushed by Rome. Jews almost worship this Akiva,
perhaps like Jesus fans worship their Jesus, and so they go the way of
Rabbi Akiva ...
Oh there they sit behind their computers, shacking in fear or laughing
imagining themselves invulnerable to events utterly beyond their control.
How about some hard core dedication Jews, how about some action for Justice.
How about you stop lying about the prosbul Rabbi, you think your lies will
just keep going for infinity ? You think that your lies are true because
you're as obstinate and dogmatic as the worst of the Jesus fans ? Your
corpse can't spout no lies about Torah laws, have you thought of that ?
Your dead corps can't infect future generations of Jews with your lies.
You think heaven playes games with this ? Why do you think all the pogroms
happened ? Why did you loose your nation ? Because of your lies, making
greed the backbone of Jewish finance, obscuring the Torah for all nations,
assigning this planet to a dark future as a concequence. As someone said:
the worst thing isn't the worst thing that happens, but hte corruption of
that which is the best thing. Your lies about the Torah are gravest thing
that happens, because it obscures the view on a proper economy, which is
a rather important elemnt in society, isn't it.
Do you understand ? No ? It doesn't even matter, understand or not you'll
burn up in the ovens if it continues to go the way it goes - and that is
both in Eretz Israel, the U$A or who knows even all over the world; like
'cozy' old times. Who do you think the nations are going to blame when
the mess they made blows up in their faces. They blame themselves ? Or
they blame the bankers and the Jews. Do justice hwile you can, clear your
name and even that way you get the peole of the world on your side - at
least those who are even half way ok. Who can hurt you then ? Nobody.
That is your ticket to safety: do the truth, do Justice - stop the
prosbul and hetter iska, distribute the holy land, while you still got one.
I am not joking. Some may laugh now at this, but they won't be laughing
once WW3 is on the boil. Then the seriousness of the situation will become
apparent and my name would be cleared to a degree of any (apparently)
crazy talk. See ? Just trying to reach you, wherever your warped minds
may be after 2000 years of messing with them by the Hillel and Maimonides
followers, the so-called Rabbonim with their so-called oral tradition and
great authority (greater then the 5 books of Mozes, allowed to break them,
so they think).
Poor Jews, they have lost their brain and will soon loose their lives too.
I did what I could, but there is no safety if you continue to break important
laws; you are then an enemy of the people. Protecting you is destroying
the nation, understand ? The nation has to be protected *against* you,
against the law breaking you preach (prosbul, hetter iska.) If there is
protection from heaven for Israel, it is against these prosbul and hetter
iska fomenters, even to the point where those are put to death on an
industrial scale. Sad but true, I use stark language to shock you into
seeing reality and deal with it fruitfully to safe yourself and curb your
failing behavior and understanding. You think you're safe and shmuck ?
Poor Jew, but alas if you choose to break law, you will face the
concequences then maybe you will learn. It is for your own benefit.
Do you realize the enormity of the violence that is heading for you ?
Now you may think of the 'enormous' embarrassement you will have to admit,
if you admit millennia of lying about the prosbul. The 'enormous' social
cost of choosing the truth. How does that stack up with the enormity of
the real world violence that is heading for the world ? How do you wish
to remember *yourself* when you think about this hard time later; you
want to be glad you chose trooth, or you want to chew endlessly on your
regrets guilt and shame. Yes Rabbi boy, I am talking to you too, or even
primarely. Say the truth to your people and stop lying to them, expose
the prosbul and hetter iska lie and repent for the lies of your creed.
Can't do it ? Feel too shmuck and arrogant, boy ? You realize that you
are talking about *law* don't you ? The Torah is *law*. It's not a painting,
it's not a sports game, it is *law*. I think you know what I mean.
Good luck, to those who deserve it.
NefeshBarYocahi
May 8, 2012, 6:08:26 PM5/8/12
to
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May 9, 2012, 1:37:17 AM5/9/12
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On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> even matter for the outcome.)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNkgyYL2icYhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQXyLC2-mr8
> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> even matter for the outcome.)
>
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
http://quran.com/68
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
A very personal message!
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 9, 2012, 2:26:10 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 6:37 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
and now progression:
http://quran.com/69
.
<simonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> > and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> > necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> > an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> > believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> > folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> > Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> > The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> > 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> > death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> > Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> > heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> > missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> > he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> > construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> > the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> > various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> > even matter for the outcome.)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUMhttp://www.youtube.com/watc...
> On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> > and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> > necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> > an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> > believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> > folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> > Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> > The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> > 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> > death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> > Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> > heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> > missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> > he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> > construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> > the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> > various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> > even matter for the outcome.)
>
http://quran.com/69
.
Jos Boersema
May 9, 2012, 3:44:00 AM5/9/12
to
Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
Thanks الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم, I think you said I'm not crazy ? Something bothers
me, and that is that I once read the Koran (in Dutch), and I was not too
impressed and said so; but I only read a few parts. I do see Muhammed as
a friend, because he made good laws, also laws against rent seeking on
money. So I hope you accept my apologies that I was rough on the Koran,
because I belief the Koran has done many good things for the people in
Arabia. It is not unlike or even much like the Torah was for the original
Israelites.
--
me, and that is that I once read the Koran (in Dutch), and I was not too
impressed and said so; but I only read a few parts. I do see Muhammed as
a friend, because he made good laws, also laws against rent seeking on
money. So I hope you accept my apologies that I was rough on the Koran,
because I belief the Koran has done many good things for the people in
Arabia. It is not unlike or even much like the Torah was for the original
Israelites.
--
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 9, 2012, 5:11:20 AM5/9/12
to
On May 9, 8:44 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
The reason I included the "ayat" for your very personal attention, is
because it came to me when I asked god for help.
I do, very rarely open the Holy Qoran; ensuring that I am "clean" in
body, yet often not in mind.
Recently, I had the misfortune of working for an Australian Jewish
Lawyer, here in London. After three and half years of knowing him very
well, when he "legally entrapped" me in his company; I needed all the
help I could receive in preventing me from "Destroying" everything
that he stands for....
Then I opened the holy qoran, using the principles of chaos theory and
it opened on the enclosed ayat, Al-Qalam.
I had no option to take it as if it was a "personal" message to me.
What you represented; I felt that it would be apt to share the
"timeless" miracle of the ONLY HOLY BOOK that could not have been
interfered by any "ape" nor human, greek nor Roman.
start with a'Oozo men al sheytan al-rahgeem, before bessmellaho etc.
Did u know al lah simply translates to "The God"!?
> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>
> > On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> >> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> >> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> >> necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> >> an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> >> believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> >> folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> >> Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> >> The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> >> 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> >> death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> >> Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> >> heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> >> missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> >> he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> >> construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> >> the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> >> various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> >> even matter for the outcome.)
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUMhttp://www.youtube.com/watc...
> > On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> >> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
> >> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
> >> necessary detail. Remember what happened to Germany, which was not
> >> an exceptionally bad country at all, they had a democracy, they really
> >> believed they had elected someone great, social and caring a real
> >> folk hero someone to make the lives of the ordinary people better ...
> >> Then they burned their own Reichstag and blamed some convenient enemy.
> >> The same program is being done in the U$A. Obama = Hitler (at the moment),
> >> 9/11 is the Reichstag fire, and the FEMA camps are the concentration and
> >> death camps, world war 2 is now world war 3 probably going to be with
> >> Iran and then 'blossom' out with China (Chicoms) and the Ruskies. You
> >> heard the Russian General is so angry (and right he should be) about the
> >> missile defense shield the U$A crimelords are setting up in Poland, that
> >> he would even pre-emptively destroy it once it reaches some point in its
> >> construction ? They are already setting up that war too (I don't know
> >> the extend of the cooperation between the criminals at the top of the
> >> various nations and in the controlling banking houses, but that doesn't
> >> even matter for the outcome.)
>
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
You are very welcome.
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
The reason I included the "ayat" for your very personal attention, is
because it came to me when I asked god for help.
I do, very rarely open the Holy Qoran; ensuring that I am "clean" in
body, yet often not in mind.
Recently, I had the misfortune of working for an Australian Jewish
Lawyer, here in London. After three and half years of knowing him very
well, when he "legally entrapped" me in his company; I needed all the
help I could receive in preventing me from "Destroying" everything
that he stands for....
Then I opened the holy qoran, using the principles of chaos theory and
it opened on the enclosed ayat, Al-Qalam.
I had no option to take it as if it was a "personal" message to me.
What you represented; I felt that it would be apt to share the
"timeless" miracle of the ONLY HOLY BOOK that could not have been
interfered by any "ape" nor human, greek nor Roman.
start with a'Oozo men al sheytan al-rahgeem, before bessmellaho etc.
Did u know al lah simply translates to "The God"!?
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 9, 2012, 7:00:18 AM5/9/12
to
>
> >http://quran.com/68
>
> > A very personal message!
>
> and now progression:
>
> http://quran.com/69
>
> .
outside of earth and their "leader"....
Sahih International
[It is] a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
Now that tells me, that in fact god already has acknowledged the
existence of most probably many millions of Worlds in our Galaxy
alone.
I am glad that their leader is in touch with the shit that goes on, on
this planet...
What if the Ka'aba CUBE is a inter-galactic "transceiver", re-
programming ape brains as they get close to it!?
Whether God or Aliens....I wouldn't want to miss the "Authors" of the
Holy QorAn....
Who other Jews would want to?
Jos Boersema
May 9, 2012, 8:33:23 AM5/9/12
to
Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
> I do, very rarely open the Holy Qoran; ensuring that I am "clean" in
> body, yet often not in mind.
>
> Recently, I had the misfortune of working for an Australian Jewish
> Lawyer, here in London. After three and half years of knowing him very
> well, when he "legally entrapped" me in his company; I needed all the
> help I could receive in preventing me from "Destroying" everything
> that he stands for....
>
> Then I opened the holy qoran, using the principles of chaos theory and
> it opened on the enclosed ayat, Al-Qalam.
>
> I had no option to take it as if it was a "personal" message to me.
> What you represented; I felt that it would be apt to share the
> "timeless" miracle of the ONLY HOLY BOOK that could not have been
> interfered by any "ape" nor human, greek nor Roman.
>
> start with a'Oozo men al sheytan al-rahgeem, before bessmellaho etc.
> Did u know al lah simply translates to "The God"!?
I do know what the Muslems say when they become Muslem, although I will
not become a Muslem (sorry). I'm a DAVID/9-roader already, that's trouble
enough (my own system). However I agree largely with what is said, such
as that there is no son-of-god. The struggle is against the son-of-god,
which is an Imperial title of grand tyrants throughout history, with which
they abuse the people (Pharao, Chinese Emperor, etc.) They can ont base
their rule on the people, because they are abusing the people to no end.
Hence they base themselves on (non existing) god(s) or other fantasies.
Muhammed said the Jews messed with the Torah, changed the law. I think
he is right, however the Jews did not change the Tanach (5 books of
Mozes, the prophets and writings). I think that is all perfectly
preserned and okidokay. But what they did was add false laws in new
books (Talmud, Mishna Torah, Shulchan Aruch, and such). In those new
books they destroyed the Torah laws, for example the law against loans
being redeemable after the 7th year, and that loans can not be made with
any rent (to a brother). These laws where destroyed by the Jews, and
Muhammed lived in a time when that was already the common practice of
the Jews (the prosbul at least). He was therefore right that the Jews
had changed their laws. The jews are and continue to be in exile for
this, because they don't understand how these laws work. They don't
understand how laws against rent seeking on loans and long term loans
shields the nation from the menace of the greedy rich. They have gone
over into worshipping wealth, the wealthy and the lust to be wealthy.
This is very sad, because I don't belief most Jews care that much for
wealth at all. But the Rabbinate teaches them false laws based on such
motivations, to 'protect the property of the rich' and so on. As if
the rich help the poor, as if that is why they are rich. With the rich
getting richer all the time because they are protected by the fake new
laws, the nation falls increasingly under the influence of their greedy
menace, which results in other ills. The way you may have been treated
is probably also the result of greed, a greed that should not be there
at all.
But they don't understand any of it, they have decided that hwat they
think is the truth because they think it. The rich help the poor in
general, because they want that to be true. Maybe some even want that
to be true as a moral thing; but if that was what the rich did they would
give loans without rent and not ask repayement after the 7th year. Sadly
the Jews are beyond reach for erason and so they will get what the
autists (www.dani18.com) said they would, which is; they will go through
hell. To get to the redemption, they will go through hell. Because they
are obstinate, hard-necked. They confuse knowledge with obstinacy, and
dogmatism with intelligence, faithfull to the Torah they confuse with
faithful to the traitors to the Torah, such as Hillel and Maimonides.
But if the Jewish prophets are any guide, the ongoing treason by the
Jewish nation will not be allowed to persist, they will be rectified
either willingly or kicking and screaming, until they all live a happy
and secure life (so the autists have said to them, I hope they are right).
Without rectification it will be back to the stone age or something along
those lines, a massive destruction of the currently ruling culture which
would probably happen somewhere in these centuries. Such are the choices
of humanity, because of their many bad deeds.
The weather is great, the soil is virtile, the fish swim happily, it is
only the humans that wreck the planet and their own lives.
--
> On May 9, 8:44 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>>> On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>>>> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
>>>> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
>>>> necessary detail.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QXYpb4jUM
>> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>>> On May 8, 9:46 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>>>> The descend of the U$A into a traditional tyranny (torture, murder
>>>> and kidnapping of opposition, and so no): Alex Jones explains it in
>>>> necessary detail.
> You are very welcome.
>
> The reason I included the "ayat" for your very personal attention, is
> because it came to me when I asked god for help.
Thank you brother.
>
> The reason I included the "ayat" for your very personal attention, is
> because it came to me when I asked god for help.
> I do, very rarely open the Holy Qoran; ensuring that I am "clean" in
> body, yet often not in mind.
>
> Recently, I had the misfortune of working for an Australian Jewish
> Lawyer, here in London. After three and half years of knowing him very
> well, when he "legally entrapped" me in his company; I needed all the
> help I could receive in preventing me from "Destroying" everything
> that he stands for....
>
> Then I opened the holy qoran, using the principles of chaos theory and
> it opened on the enclosed ayat, Al-Qalam.
>
> I had no option to take it as if it was a "personal" message to me.
> What you represented; I felt that it would be apt to share the
> "timeless" miracle of the ONLY HOLY BOOK that could not have been
> interfered by any "ape" nor human, greek nor Roman.
>
> start with a'Oozo men al sheytan al-rahgeem, before bessmellaho etc.
> Did u know al lah simply translates to "The God"!?
not become a Muslem (sorry). I'm a DAVID/9-roader already, that's trouble
enough (my own system). However I agree largely with what is said, such
as that there is no son-of-god. The struggle is against the son-of-god,
which is an Imperial title of grand tyrants throughout history, with which
they abuse the people (Pharao, Chinese Emperor, etc.) They can ont base
their rule on the people, because they are abusing the people to no end.
Hence they base themselves on (non existing) god(s) or other fantasies.
Muhammed said the Jews messed with the Torah, changed the law. I think
he is right, however the Jews did not change the Tanach (5 books of
Mozes, the prophets and writings). I think that is all perfectly
preserned and okidokay. But what they did was add false laws in new
books (Talmud, Mishna Torah, Shulchan Aruch, and such). In those new
books they destroyed the Torah laws, for example the law against loans
being redeemable after the 7th year, and that loans can not be made with
any rent (to a brother). These laws where destroyed by the Jews, and
Muhammed lived in a time when that was already the common practice of
the Jews (the prosbul at least). He was therefore right that the Jews
had changed their laws. The jews are and continue to be in exile for
this, because they don't understand how these laws work. They don't
understand how laws against rent seeking on loans and long term loans
shields the nation from the menace of the greedy rich. They have gone
over into worshipping wealth, the wealthy and the lust to be wealthy.
This is very sad, because I don't belief most Jews care that much for
wealth at all. But the Rabbinate teaches them false laws based on such
motivations, to 'protect the property of the rich' and so on. As if
the rich help the poor, as if that is why they are rich. With the rich
getting richer all the time because they are protected by the fake new
laws, the nation falls increasingly under the influence of their greedy
menace, which results in other ills. The way you may have been treated
is probably also the result of greed, a greed that should not be there
at all.
But they don't understand any of it, they have decided that hwat they
think is the truth because they think it. The rich help the poor in
general, because they want that to be true. Maybe some even want that
to be true as a moral thing; but if that was what the rich did they would
give loans without rent and not ask repayement after the 7th year. Sadly
the Jews are beyond reach for erason and so they will get what the
autists (www.dani18.com) said they would, which is; they will go through
hell. To get to the redemption, they will go through hell. Because they
are obstinate, hard-necked. They confuse knowledge with obstinacy, and
dogmatism with intelligence, faithfull to the Torah they confuse with
faithful to the traitors to the Torah, such as Hillel and Maimonides.
But if the Jewish prophets are any guide, the ongoing treason by the
Jewish nation will not be allowed to persist, they will be rectified
either willingly or kicking and screaming, until they all live a happy
and secure life (so the autists have said to them, I hope they are right).
Without rectification it will be back to the stone age or something along
those lines, a massive destruction of the currently ruling culture which
would probably happen somewhere in these centuries. Such are the choices
of humanity, because of their many bad deeds.
The weather is great, the soil is virtile, the fish swim happily, it is
only the humans that wreck the planet and their own lives.
--
NefeshBarYocahi
May 9, 2012, 11:28:22 AM5/9/12
to
Why does Boersema keep fucking his mother in the ass?
Jos Boersema
May 10, 2012, 3:07:27 AM5/10/12
to
Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
[...]
69:10 And they disobeyed the messenger of their Lord, so He seized them with
a seizure exceeding [in severity].
69:11
Indeed, when the water overflowed, We carried your ancestors in the
sailing ship
69:12 That We might make it for you a reminder and [that] a conscious
ear would be conscious of it.
69:13 Then when the Horn is blown with one blast
69:14 And the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow -
69:15 Then on that Day, the Resurrection will occur,
69:16 And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm.
69:17 And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne
of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them].
69:18 That Day, you will be exhibited [for judgement]; not hidden among
you is anything concealed.
69:19 So as for he who is given his record in his right hand, he will say,
"Here, read my record!
69:20 Indeed, I was certain that I would be meeting my account."
69:21 So he will be in a pleasant life -
69:22 In an elevated garden,
69:23 Its [fruit] to be picked hanging near.
69:24 [They will be told], "Eat and drink in satisfaction for what you
put forth in the days past."
(...)
A proper economic system gives each individual an inalienable right to own
land, he/she can not even sell it but will always have that no matter what.
This was the Torah, which the Jews only pay lipservice to, and is also
my proposal to do right now in all nations including yours. This is not a
fantasy, the fantasy is the crazy system we are now in, and when it crashes
once more as it always did, it will again be shown that it was all a fantasy
and not reality. Not stable anyway, a short term ruse, a broken ship headed
to be wrecked by its own contradictions spiraling out of control ever more.
Most people are likely to make from the land they get a garden of some sort.
Even those who don't farm it and rent out most, are likely to keep some and
make a bit of a place there, for their personal enjoyement and relaxation.
This is how life should be on this planet. Enjoy it.
--
[...]
>> http://quran.com/68
>>
>> A very personal message!
>
> and now progression:
>
> http://quran.com/69
(...)
>>
>> A very personal message!
>
> and now progression:
>
> http://quran.com/69
69:10 And they disobeyed the messenger of their Lord, so He seized them with
a seizure exceeding [in severity].
69:11
Indeed, when the water overflowed, We carried your ancestors in the
sailing ship
69:12 That We might make it for you a reminder and [that] a conscious
ear would be conscious of it.
69:13 Then when the Horn is blown with one blast
69:14 And the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow -
69:15 Then on that Day, the Resurrection will occur,
69:16 And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm.
69:17 And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne
of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them].
69:18 That Day, you will be exhibited [for judgement]; not hidden among
you is anything concealed.
69:19 So as for he who is given his record in his right hand, he will say,
"Here, read my record!
69:20 Indeed, I was certain that I would be meeting my account."
69:21 So he will be in a pleasant life -
69:22 In an elevated garden,
69:23 Its [fruit] to be picked hanging near.
69:24 [They will be told], "Eat and drink in satisfaction for what you
put forth in the days past."
(...)
A proper economic system gives each individual an inalienable right to own
land, he/she can not even sell it but will always have that no matter what.
This was the Torah, which the Jews only pay lipservice to, and is also
my proposal to do right now in all nations including yours. This is not a
fantasy, the fantasy is the crazy system we are now in, and when it crashes
once more as it always did, it will again be shown that it was all a fantasy
and not reality. Not stable anyway, a short term ruse, a broken ship headed
to be wrecked by its own contradictions spiraling out of control ever more.
Most people are likely to make from the land they get a garden of some sort.
Even those who don't farm it and rent out most, are likely to keep some and
make a bit of a place there, for their personal enjoyement and relaxation.
This is how life should be on this planet. Enjoy it.
--
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 10, 2012, 4:53:15 AM5/10/12
to
On May 10, 8:07 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
mother fuckers consider "A" REASON, why *****WE***** "should" PERMIT
_you_ as a _collective_ to continue to "EXIST" in anyform,
recognizable to my Person.
So I am giving the "one" CUNT who has the HIGHEST POISTION of
"LEADRSHIP" acceptable to "ALL" of you PARASITIC MOTHER FUCKERS...let
she or he come with "A" reason, and no background info needed.
Just ONE BIBLICAL REFERENCE, outside of the Holy QorAn of course!
> Op 2012-05-09, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
let us read a "single" passage of your Torah or whatever the FUCK you
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
mother fuckers consider "A" REASON, why *****WE***** "should" PERMIT
_you_ as a _collective_ to continue to "EXIST" in anyform,
recognizable to my Person.
So I am giving the "one" CUNT who has the HIGHEST POISTION of
"LEADRSHIP" acceptable to "ALL" of you PARASITIC MOTHER FUCKERS...let
she or he come with "A" reason, and no background info needed.
Just ONE BIBLICAL REFERENCE, outside of the Holy QorAn of course!
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 10, 2012, 4:57:43 AM5/10/12
to
On May 10, 9:53 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
sorry Joe, not talking with your good self. U r now on
*****OUR*****777 line.
Pick a number between 1 and 8.
I already know most of the 8 Angels; but never wanting to count the
chickens before the eggs are hatched...
Welcome to the side of the "righteous"!
salAm and Shalomon aleikom
*****OUR*****777 line.
Pick a number between 1 and 8.
I already know most of the 8 Angels; but never wanting to count the
chickens before the eggs are hatched...
Welcome to the side of the "righteous"!
salAm and Shalomon aleikom
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 10, 2012, 6:22:21 AM5/10/12
to
WITNESS that there is no higher(god) than THE GOD.
U then read the answers to any of your questions from "The Book" V5.0
if u liked V3,4 u'll love V5. It's god latest "literary work" that
speaks to "one" as if directly.
You must of course know and understand THE QUESTION, before asking it
and looking up the answer at random, in a manner I suggested. If you
comply with the "edict" that cleanliness is next to godliness; then
read the answer just for you. or for one.
Please tell me, why do you feel qualified to have "introduce" a system
that fixes all the "problems"
When Karl Marx did that, it turned out to be a very nasty economic
model!
How can you be sure that your system does not put u in place of GOD,
as Marx's Model made of HIM!?
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 10, 2012, 6:54:44 AM5/10/12
to
On May 10, 11:22 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam.shia/browse_frm/thread/26767f3fb6b012b8/5920a02005fee2c1?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=SEAL+V5#5920a02005fee2c1
How does your David 9 system work with this?
Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
fathered solomon?
Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
chance to rule over Jews?
Like David II?
How does your David 9 system work with this?
Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
fathered solomon?
Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
chance to rule over Jews?
Like David II?
NefeshBarYocahi
May 10, 2012, 10:45:58 AM5/10/12
to
On May 10, 4:54 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam.shia/browse_frm/thr...
>
> How does your David 9 system work with this?
>
> Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
> fathered solomon?
>
> Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
>
> r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
> chance to rule over Jews?
>
> Like David II?- Hide quoted text -
> How does your David 9 system work with this?
>
> Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
> fathered solomon?
>
> Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
>
> r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
> chance to rule over Jews?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Someone should run a shiv into your liver asshole.
> - Show quoted text -
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May 10, 2012, 11:35:56 AM5/10/12
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not an incorrect statement.
It is equally true that *****WE***** the HUMANS from IRAN have, for a
Longtime, known that the "whole is greater than the sum of its parts"
and that To know god, u must reach his level within u.
Now equally, those collectives could also "MANIFEST" as SATAN.
for 2200 YERAS, you Jews have played GOD; Got a whole bunch of
yourselves KILLED; Played SATAN and GOT ISRAEL DEMOLISHED by Romans;
Killed YOUR KING and never stopped "selling" SATAN as G_D to this day.
again, what sort of GOD would respond the way u did to anyone for
anyreason....
Other than that "JEALOUS GOD"; known to us as the Holy Satan
"herself"...
Tell me Yidmish, do u have a boyfriend yet?
Jos Boersema
May 15, 2012, 3:10:00 AM5/15/12
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Op 2012-05-10, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
I don't think is a Jew in any way.
> Pick a number between 1 and 8.
4, my system has 4 principles, D.A.V.I.D. system:
Democratic:
- Authorities, absolute democratic Government
- Ventures, companies become democratic once starter leaves
- Investments, investment credit is socialized
- Demarcations, all get their share of natural resources.
----- +
DAVID system. This is meant to spread power to all so that trades
become fairer. Trades become abusive when power enters the equation.
You can cancel the influence of power in trades by making all equally
powerful, then the power balances and cancels. Having land is a power,
having influence over Government is power, having a say in the
company is power.
> I already know most of the 8 Angels; but never wanting to count the
> chickens before the eggs are hatched...
>
> Welcome to the side of the "righteous"!
Thank you.
> salAm and Shalomon aleikom
Shalom Muslem brother. I hope my systems can also help the arab people.
The arab people are hurt by tyrannical Governments, not to mention
western invasions. I think that can be overthrown by the DAVID/9-roads.
--
>> let us read a "single" passage of your Torah or whatever the FUCK you
>> mother fuckers consider "A" REASON, why *****WE***** "should" PERMIT
>> _you_ as a _collective_ to continue to "EXIST" in anyform,
>> recognizable to my Person.
>>
>> So I am giving the "one" CUNT who has the HIGHEST POISTION of
>> "LEADRSHIP" acceptable to "ALL" of you PARASITIC MOTHER FUCKERS...let
>> she or he come with "A" reason, and no background info needed.
>>
>> Just ONE BIBLICAL REFERENCE, outside of the Holy QorAn of course!
>
> sorry Joe, not talking with your good self. U r now on
> *****OUR*****777 line.
No worries, I figured you was talking to that deranged individual whom
>> mother fuckers consider "A" REASON, why *****WE***** "should" PERMIT
>> _you_ as a _collective_ to continue to "EXIST" in anyform,
>> recognizable to my Person.
>>
>> So I am giving the "one" CUNT who has the HIGHEST POISTION of
>> "LEADRSHIP" acceptable to "ALL" of you PARASITIC MOTHER FUCKERS...let
>> she or he come with "A" reason, and no background info needed.
>>
>> Just ONE BIBLICAL REFERENCE, outside of the Holy QorAn of course!
>
> sorry Joe, not talking with your good self. U r now on
> *****OUR*****777 line.
I don't think is a Jew in any way.
> Pick a number between 1 and 8.
Democratic:
- Authorities, absolute democratic Government
- Ventures, companies become democratic once starter leaves
- Investments, investment credit is socialized
- Demarcations, all get their share of natural resources.
----- +
DAVID system. This is meant to spread power to all so that trades
become fairer. Trades become abusive when power enters the equation.
You can cancel the influence of power in trades by making all equally
powerful, then the power balances and cancels. Having land is a power,
having influence over Government is power, having a say in the
company is power.
> I already know most of the 8 Angels; but never wanting to count the
> chickens before the eggs are hatched...
>
> Welcome to the side of the "righteous"!
> salAm and Shalomon aleikom
Shalom Muslem brother. I hope my systems can also help the arab people.
The arab people are hurt by tyrannical Governments, not to mention
western invasions. I think that can be overthrown by the DAVID/9-roads.
--
Jos Boersema
May 15, 2012, 3:35:16 AM5/15/12
to
Op 2012-05-10, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
I do it because I want to, I have decided to do this. How can I not do it ?
How can I leave things as they are, knowing it will all grind itself into
hell ? How can not every person on Earth be trying to create a better way
for humanity to live ? Who can feel qualified NOT to do something and leave
it as is ?
> When Karl Marx did that, it turned out to be a very nasty economic
> model!
That is true, but my model is nearly 100% at odds with Marxism.
> How can you be sure that your system does not put u in place of GOD,
> as Marx's Model made of HIM!?
I can not be sure, and this is the number 1 problem that there is with
all of this and the problems in the world. The problems can not be fixed
because people are idolators and will put the person that they think
solved big problems for them in the highest conceivable place. I have
done everything I can to say that I am not a god, neither the Creator,
said time and again I don't even know the name of my neighbor and how
can I then be a god; I also goofed up once big time with planet-x and
so it's proven I can make big mistakes (although I recouperated from
that by creating evidence.) I think that humanity does not get the help
it could get, because people will make idols out of such people. That
ruins everything and therefore nobody wants to help humanity. I did
everything possible to prevent this problem, but it is hard to correct
the ills in the world in a theoretical way first and then to be done,
without even being known, even if it is not at all about you.
So having tried as hard as I can, those people who become idolators
and think I am GOD, I don't know what will happen with them but they
may go through life damaged that way. It is notable that people who will
worship me as a god are probably already worshipping statues or figments
of their imagination right now. I did what I could to correct them and
prevent this issues but I doubt it will work. Notably the Tanach, the
prophets, already say that the moschiach will be worshipped by the
gentiles. They want to be idolators, they always have been and still are,
currently falsely thinking Jesus is a god. The Muslems know Jesus is not
a god (I hold him for a slightly deranged follower of Hillel, which most
Jews must have been at the time, breaking some laws about idolatry by
claiming to be god himself and hence he is a criminal under Torah law
and may have been executed as was the law.) You can see how much you
can rty to tell the Jesus fans that Jesus is not a god, you even have
it on the Dome of the Rock, it doesn't even make them flinch. They have
lost their mind and hence reason or reality has no impact on them. Perhaps
tehy have to be considdered a lost people for their idolatry or at least
on the topic of their idolatry.
Idolatry is so dangerous because it ruins thinking and also democracy.
It brings priesthoods to power who will opperate with impunety, such
as the disastrous Vatican has done. You see this in politics come back
in Jesus-fan parties, which often are parties who love war empire and
corruption - but also stupidity. Those are the results of their idolatry.
Here is another question: are you qualified to ask me whether I am
qualified ? Do you know what the qualification would be, and are you
willing to verify. I do think I largely match the story about the 'moshiach'
in the Tanach, it is close to my life and operations or at leats what I
hope will be my operations and results. I do not claim any qualification
within the Quoran, I do not know about this 'hidden Imam,' and I regard
Jesus as a faker and hence I have no interest in this 2nd coming of Jesus
whatsoever. To me only the Tanach is good, although I sometimes wonder
about some Jesus books and things that may even come true from those.
The Koran also has quite a few predictions and they may come true to a
degree as well; but I think the Tanach is the best book so far because
it also has land-distribution, something that the Koran does not seem to
have.
You see it is not about me, I don't need any qualifications because it is
not about me. It is not like "look I come from heaven, now do what I say
because I say it." Then you would need qualifications, because it is all
tied to the authority of the source. My 'qualifications' are the logic
of my system, which you can verify in your logical mind for yourself.
I say: "trade is unfair when power is abused," and that is quite obvious.
I say: "to deal with that, we must take power out of the equation when
trades are made so that trades become more fair." That is logical, nothing
to do with me personally, or the fact I currently wear a scarf or where
I was born or that I just ate some bread or whatever.
I say: "we can take power out of the trade equation by giving everyone the
same amount of power." That is logical too. It is all a big logical
construct or computation, and because of that you can also find and prove
errors in it, and correct them yourself. Thus there is nothing 'holy'
or untouchable on unchangeable here.
I was thinking about the fact that Islam says it is the latest revelation
from heaven, and I used to think that this was not true as my systems
come later now. But on second thought: my systems are not a revelation
from heaven, but are a logical construct made here on Earth by humans
for humans. Not by a son-of-god in ANY way, as you could say in some
way the prophets where because their words where claimed to be or where
directly 'born' from heaven. Not so here: this is constructed by human
effort here on Earth, it is born of man and not of external sources, and
hence it is not holy and shouldn't be regarded as holy and I define it as
non-holy. It is 'profane' if you want. It doesn't need to be declared
'holy' because its logic is strong enough. It is contained within itself.
My qualification for this is then only that the logic is correct and will
prove to work.
In a more normal way I tend to try to qualify myself by saying I wrote
this computer program: http://www.law4.org, having taught myself programming.
That should prove I mean it, and am possibly capable enough to do it.
At least capable enough for someone to show a bare minimum of interest
to start reading it, after which the logic itself of it should convince
them to read further. But if not, that's fine: enjoy world war 3 I guess,
and the mass death that's coming the way it is going ... I am merely
proposing this, if someone doesn't like it, then they shouldn't do it.
--
> On May 9, 1:33 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
[...]
>> I do know what the Muslems say when they become Muslem, although I will
>> not become a Muslem (sorry). I'm a DAVID/9-roader already, that's trouble
>> enough (my own system).
>
> They should start by saying "ash had anna lA elAha el al lAh"; I give
> WITNESS that there is no higher(god) than THE GOD.
>
> U then read the answers to any of your questions from "The Book" V5.0
>
> if u liked V3,4 u'll love V5. It's god latest "literary work" that
> speaks to "one" as if directly.
>
> You must of course know and understand THE QUESTION, before asking it
> and looking up the answer at random, in a manner I suggested. If you
> comply with the "edict" that cleanliness is next to godliness; then
> read the answer just for you. or for one.
>
> Please tell me, why do you feel qualified to have "introduce" a system
> that fixes all the "problems"
It isn't about me and hence I don't have to be qualified or not-qualified.
>> not become a Muslem (sorry). I'm a DAVID/9-roader already, that's trouble
>> enough (my own system).
>
> They should start by saying "ash had anna lA elAha el al lAh"; I give
> WITNESS that there is no higher(god) than THE GOD.
>
> U then read the answers to any of your questions from "The Book" V5.0
>
> if u liked V3,4 u'll love V5. It's god latest "literary work" that
> speaks to "one" as if directly.
>
> You must of course know and understand THE QUESTION, before asking it
> and looking up the answer at random, in a manner I suggested. If you
> comply with the "edict" that cleanliness is next to godliness; then
> read the answer just for you. or for one.
>
> Please tell me, why do you feel qualified to have "introduce" a system
> that fixes all the "problems"
I do it because I want to, I have decided to do this. How can I not do it ?
How can I leave things as they are, knowing it will all grind itself into
hell ? How can not every person on Earth be trying to create a better way
for humanity to live ? Who can feel qualified NOT to do something and leave
it as is ?
> When Karl Marx did that, it turned out to be a very nasty economic
> model!
> How can you be sure that your system does not put u in place of GOD,
> as Marx's Model made of HIM!?
all of this and the problems in the world. The problems can not be fixed
because people are idolators and will put the person that they think
solved big problems for them in the highest conceivable place. I have
done everything I can to say that I am not a god, neither the Creator,
said time and again I don't even know the name of my neighbor and how
can I then be a god; I also goofed up once big time with planet-x and
so it's proven I can make big mistakes (although I recouperated from
that by creating evidence.) I think that humanity does not get the help
it could get, because people will make idols out of such people. That
ruins everything and therefore nobody wants to help humanity. I did
everything possible to prevent this problem, but it is hard to correct
the ills in the world in a theoretical way first and then to be done,
without even being known, even if it is not at all about you.
So having tried as hard as I can, those people who become idolators
and think I am GOD, I don't know what will happen with them but they
may go through life damaged that way. It is notable that people who will
worship me as a god are probably already worshipping statues or figments
of their imagination right now. I did what I could to correct them and
prevent this issues but I doubt it will work. Notably the Tanach, the
prophets, already say that the moschiach will be worshipped by the
gentiles. They want to be idolators, they always have been and still are,
currently falsely thinking Jesus is a god. The Muslems know Jesus is not
a god (I hold him for a slightly deranged follower of Hillel, which most
Jews must have been at the time, breaking some laws about idolatry by
claiming to be god himself and hence he is a criminal under Torah law
and may have been executed as was the law.) You can see how much you
can rty to tell the Jesus fans that Jesus is not a god, you even have
it on the Dome of the Rock, it doesn't even make them flinch. They have
lost their mind and hence reason or reality has no impact on them. Perhaps
tehy have to be considdered a lost people for their idolatry or at least
on the topic of their idolatry.
Idolatry is so dangerous because it ruins thinking and also democracy.
It brings priesthoods to power who will opperate with impunety, such
as the disastrous Vatican has done. You see this in politics come back
in Jesus-fan parties, which often are parties who love war empire and
corruption - but also stupidity. Those are the results of their idolatry.
Here is another question: are you qualified to ask me whether I am
qualified ? Do you know what the qualification would be, and are you
willing to verify. I do think I largely match the story about the 'moshiach'
in the Tanach, it is close to my life and operations or at leats what I
hope will be my operations and results. I do not claim any qualification
within the Quoran, I do not know about this 'hidden Imam,' and I regard
Jesus as a faker and hence I have no interest in this 2nd coming of Jesus
whatsoever. To me only the Tanach is good, although I sometimes wonder
about some Jesus books and things that may even come true from those.
The Koran also has quite a few predictions and they may come true to a
degree as well; but I think the Tanach is the best book so far because
it also has land-distribution, something that the Koran does not seem to
have.
You see it is not about me, I don't need any qualifications because it is
not about me. It is not like "look I come from heaven, now do what I say
because I say it." Then you would need qualifications, because it is all
tied to the authority of the source. My 'qualifications' are the logic
of my system, which you can verify in your logical mind for yourself.
I say: "trade is unfair when power is abused," and that is quite obvious.
I say: "to deal with that, we must take power out of the equation when
trades are made so that trades become more fair." That is logical, nothing
to do with me personally, or the fact I currently wear a scarf or where
I was born or that I just ate some bread or whatever.
I say: "we can take power out of the trade equation by giving everyone the
same amount of power." That is logical too. It is all a big logical
construct or computation, and because of that you can also find and prove
errors in it, and correct them yourself. Thus there is nothing 'holy'
or untouchable on unchangeable here.
I was thinking about the fact that Islam says it is the latest revelation
from heaven, and I used to think that this was not true as my systems
come later now. But on second thought: my systems are not a revelation
from heaven, but are a logical construct made here on Earth by humans
for humans. Not by a son-of-god in ANY way, as you could say in some
way the prophets where because their words where claimed to be or where
directly 'born' from heaven. Not so here: this is constructed by human
effort here on Earth, it is born of man and not of external sources, and
hence it is not holy and shouldn't be regarded as holy and I define it as
non-holy. It is 'profane' if you want. It doesn't need to be declared
'holy' because its logic is strong enough. It is contained within itself.
My qualification for this is then only that the logic is correct and will
prove to work.
In a more normal way I tend to try to qualify myself by saying I wrote
this computer program: http://www.law4.org, having taught myself programming.
That should prove I mean it, and am possibly capable enough to do it.
At least capable enough for someone to show a bare minimum of interest
to start reading it, after which the logic itself of it should convince
them to read further. But if not, that's fine: enjoy world war 3 I guess,
and the mass death that's coming the way it is going ... I am merely
proposing this, if someone doesn't like it, then they shouldn't do it.
--
Jos Boersema
May 15, 2012, 3:51:29 AM5/15/12
to
Op 2012-05-10, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
for me (and it is usenetiquette to post the information or at leas
summerize it, thanks.)
> Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
> fathered solomon?
>
> Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
It used to be called CFRI system or something, I don't recall and that
was exactly the problem. I have 4 principles in this system and used the
first letters, but it was hard to remember. Since I am also using a
David-star to represent democracy (the other alternative is a circle,
which is the first symbol that popped into my mind to represent this
democracy, but I decided it was too ubiquitous), I tried to find matching
names for the name David. I use a David star because it is a pyramid
and then an inverted pyramid, the pyramid usually stands for hierarchy
and tyranny. The inverted pyramid turns it upside down, places the people
on top; so it becomes a symbol of centralized democracy. I don't consider
what the Jewish nation is doing something to take into account because
it won't last what they are doing. I do think waht I do can last, and
hence why would I even care what some group is doing at the moment and
what symbol they are using ? I have thought quite a bit about a symbol
for democracy, but it is not so easy to find something that means something.
Then again I have made a few symbols and the David star is only one of them.
> r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
> chance to rule over Jews?
>
> Like David II?
When my system is done, the Jews will elect a King Elect, its powers
quite different from what Kings so far have done including the King
David. I am against Monarchy because it is tyranny. The Torah is also
against monarchy, but the Jews asked for a King and then rejected the
creator as their King. All things that are in the Tanach but that they
refuse to see. I will not stand for election. The Tanach says that the
Creator will shine a light of goodness over the house of David, the
Jews still know who descended from that house. It is more then a little
obvious that they will vote for those people of the house of David.
They will then populate the so-called 'Electorac Committee' in this system,
again it has its own meaning; it is a 10 person independent group that
sets election dates. The oldest in this group is by definition King
Elect. Hence this way a descendent of king David will certainly get back
on this throne in Israel. But that wasn't my purpose behind the name
DAVID system, these are other issues. I also really don't care what the
Tanach says, I do my own things that I think are good. Later I find that
the Jews have this in their Tanach, that a good light would be shined
over the house of David; and that their G.d will bring one of them at
their head, of the house of David. That all works pretty nicely with the
system I made, but I made my systems for logical reasons and not to
match any religious or other document. To know why I made this King
system I can tell you or you could read my site, www.law4.org.
It has to do with several things, with having a singular focus to inspect
the state for corruption which this King (or Queen) does, and it is
an emergency Government in case the councils are in disarray because of
the people being too incompetent. There is a set of laws that describe
how and for how long the King takes power. For nations that continue
to be badly behaved they could become a King ruled Monarchy for quite
some time, but it still would be a Constitutional Monarchy and eventually
the councils are given another chance.
--
> On May 10, 11:22 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
>>> --http://www.law4.org [...]
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam.shia/browse_frm/thread/26767f3fb6b012b8/5920a02005fee2c1?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=SEAL+V5#5920a02005fee2c1
>
> How does your David 9 system work with this?
Could you copy/paste the information, the link does not seem to work
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam.shia/browse_frm/thread/26767f3fb6b012b8/5920a02005fee2c1?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=SEAL+V5#5920a02005fee2c1
>
> How does your David 9 system work with this?
for me (and it is usenetiquette to post the information or at leas
summerize it, thanks.)
> Please, tell me, was not David the King of undesirable character who
> fathered solomon?
>
> Why are u attributing credit where god already has taken away??
was exactly the problem. I have 4 principles in this system and used the
first letters, but it was hard to remember. Since I am also using a
David-star to represent democracy (the other alternative is a circle,
which is the first symbol that popped into my mind to represent this
democracy, but I decided it was too ubiquitous), I tried to find matching
names for the name David. I use a David star because it is a pyramid
and then an inverted pyramid, the pyramid usually stands for hierarchy
and tyranny. The inverted pyramid turns it upside down, places the people
on top; so it becomes a symbol of centralized democracy. I don't consider
what the Jewish nation is doing something to take into account because
it won't last what they are doing. I do think waht I do can last, and
hence why would I even care what some group is doing at the moment and
what symbol they are using ? I have thought quite a bit about a symbol
for democracy, but it is not so easy to find something that means something.
Then again I have made a few symbols and the David star is only one of them.
> r u trying to "make up" for David's shortfalls and give him "another"
> chance to rule over Jews?
>
> Like David II?
quite different from what Kings so far have done including the King
David. I am against Monarchy because it is tyranny. The Torah is also
against monarchy, but the Jews asked for a King and then rejected the
creator as their King. All things that are in the Tanach but that they
refuse to see. I will not stand for election. The Tanach says that the
Creator will shine a light of goodness over the house of David, the
Jews still know who descended from that house. It is more then a little
obvious that they will vote for those people of the house of David.
They will then populate the so-called 'Electorac Committee' in this system,
again it has its own meaning; it is a 10 person independent group that
sets election dates. The oldest in this group is by definition King
Elect. Hence this way a descendent of king David will certainly get back
on this throne in Israel. But that wasn't my purpose behind the name
DAVID system, these are other issues. I also really don't care what the
Tanach says, I do my own things that I think are good. Later I find that
the Jews have this in their Tanach, that a good light would be shined
over the house of David; and that their G.d will bring one of them at
their head, of the house of David. That all works pretty nicely with the
system I made, but I made my systems for logical reasons and not to
match any religious or other document. To know why I made this King
system I can tell you or you could read my site, www.law4.org.
It has to do with several things, with having a singular focus to inspect
the state for corruption which this King (or Queen) does, and it is
an emergency Government in case the councils are in disarray because of
the people being too incompetent. There is a set of laws that describe
how and for how long the King takes power. For nations that continue
to be badly behaved they could become a King ruled Monarchy for quite
some time, but it still would be a Constitutional Monarchy and eventually
the councils are given another chance.
--
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 16, 2012, 8:58:18 AM5/16/12
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On May 15, 8:51 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-10, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
Dear Joe,
Please study and give me a feedback about what you understand to be
contained in the following:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087cf?hl=en
I am by profession, a Systems Architect, IT Designer and a
mathematically supported businessman.
When I posted the first version of the above; I was working as a
strategy consultant in Russia in 1997.
It has taken me 29 years to design and create the "Biggest Corporation
in the UNIVERSE".
I have published a lot of work, especially between 1995-2000 about the
model.
Look forward to seeing if there are strategic overlaps or synergy with
your model
> Op 2012-05-10, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>
> > On May 10, 11:22 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
> >>> --http://www.law4.org [...]
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.islam.shia/browse_frm/thr...
> > On May 10, 11:22 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
> >>> --http://www.law4.org [...]
>
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
Good Afternoon, from a Nice sunny London,
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
Dear Joe,
Please study and give me a feedback about what you understand to be
contained in the following:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087cf?hl=en
I am by profession, a Systems Architect, IT Designer and a
mathematically supported businessman.
When I posted the first version of the above; I was working as a
strategy consultant in Russia in 1997.
It has taken me 29 years to design and create the "Biggest Corporation
in the UNIVERSE".
I have published a lot of work, especially between 1995-2000 about the
model.
Look forward to seeing if there are strategic overlaps or synergy with
your model
Jos Boersema
May 16, 2012, 9:31:47 AM5/16/12
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Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
I've tried to see what was under the link, but it seemed to be
something other then economics of a Government system and hence
I don't see any overlap or it even being about the same subject.
I am not interested in religious issues either, I am not a god
to know anything about things I can't even see. I don't post in
this newsgroups because I am interested in religion, but because
I am interested in economics and ending tyrannical abuses that
stem from bad economic law. The Torah is mainly of interest to
me because it contains economic laws.
What I found had the word 'trinity' in it ? Is that it ?
Religion doesn't interest me at all, I mostly see it as a grave
threat to the world and humanity, sorry. Some religions have economic
and/or Government and other interesting laws though, those are of
interest; not whatever they call god. Even the Jewish religion
I see as a threat, particularly because it still has a lot of
idolatry elements in it, including their moshiach thing which
essentially is idolatry. It is all idolatry.
It was a de-escalation for them I guess, from evil-inspired idolatry
causing them (and arabs) to murder people, to a more good-inspired
idolatry. But still it's idolatry: subjugation rather then thinking
logically and using evidence. Sadly modern science is also idolatry
to a degree with their so-called 'authorities.' They are more pretence
then fact, and sadly fail to create the morality necessary also.
As usual I guess, it all ends up being about money and power. That
should be solveable to a degree by proper economic and Government laws.
They could not be turned to behave normally in one go, and so they
had the in-between step of their religion to stop them from murdering
people (arabs too, but with Islam.) The only logical place for a
super-human being or all-powerful being could still be 'the creator'
though, as we are in a world and it exists and has a specific form
and behavior. However I also don't know this creator either, and don't
think it is important. But it is a great creation and as far as I can
tell it is a great benevolent construction which can easily absorb
the evil humanity does and crush humanity before its evil can spread
too far. That seems to be achieved through the separation into planets,
stars and galaxies, and natural issues with the speed of evolution for
evil versus good species. The way it seems to work is that the good
will tend to win, they have the best chances over time. In a smaller
way the separation in planets comes back in the separation into
Continents, in the separation through mountains and deserts, and so
on. It isolates creatures and those who do good will be protected for
a time, that gives them chances to develop faster and eventually
crush the evil beings. It doesn't necessarily go right every time, but
then there is always a larger size level and separation that can come
into play. I'd say this proves that the Universe is created with wisdom
and foresight.
Another way of looking at it is that being a wise creation it tends to be
popular; but all this is a bit speculative. Again I really don't care
about it, what I care about is economic law and Government models and
to change things here & now.
best regards, jos
--
> Good Afternoon, from a Nice sunny London,
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> Please study and give me a feedback about what you understand to be
> contained in the following:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087cf?hl=en
>
> I am by profession, a Systems Architect, IT Designer and a
> mathematically supported businessman.
>
> When I posted the first version of the above; I was working as a
> strategy consultant in Russia in 1997.
>
> It has taken me 29 years to design and create the "Biggest Corporation
> in the UNIVERSE".
>
> I have published a lot of work, especially between 1995-2000 about the
> model.
>
> Look forward to seeing if there are strategic overlaps or synergy with
> your model
Hello,
>
> Dear Joe,
>
> Please study and give me a feedback about what you understand to be
> contained in the following:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087cf?hl=en
>
> I am by profession, a Systems Architect, IT Designer and a
> mathematically supported businessman.
>
> When I posted the first version of the above; I was working as a
> strategy consultant in Russia in 1997.
>
> It has taken me 29 years to design and create the "Biggest Corporation
> in the UNIVERSE".
>
> I have published a lot of work, especially between 1995-2000 about the
> model.
>
> Look forward to seeing if there are strategic overlaps or synergy with
> your model
I've tried to see what was under the link, but it seemed to be
something other then economics of a Government system and hence
I don't see any overlap or it even being about the same subject.
I am not interested in religious issues either, I am not a god
to know anything about things I can't even see. I don't post in
this newsgroups because I am interested in religion, but because
I am interested in economics and ending tyrannical abuses that
stem from bad economic law. The Torah is mainly of interest to
me because it contains economic laws.
What I found had the word 'trinity' in it ? Is that it ?
Religion doesn't interest me at all, I mostly see it as a grave
threat to the world and humanity, sorry. Some religions have economic
and/or Government and other interesting laws though, those are of
interest; not whatever they call god. Even the Jewish religion
I see as a threat, particularly because it still has a lot of
idolatry elements in it, including their moshiach thing which
essentially is idolatry. It is all idolatry.
It was a de-escalation for them I guess, from evil-inspired idolatry
causing them (and arabs) to murder people, to a more good-inspired
idolatry. But still it's idolatry: subjugation rather then thinking
logically and using evidence. Sadly modern science is also idolatry
to a degree with their so-called 'authorities.' They are more pretence
then fact, and sadly fail to create the morality necessary also.
As usual I guess, it all ends up being about money and power. That
should be solveable to a degree by proper economic and Government laws.
They could not be turned to behave normally in one go, and so they
had the in-between step of their religion to stop them from murdering
people (arabs too, but with Islam.) The only logical place for a
super-human being or all-powerful being could still be 'the creator'
though, as we are in a world and it exists and has a specific form
and behavior. However I also don't know this creator either, and don't
think it is important. But it is a great creation and as far as I can
tell it is a great benevolent construction which can easily absorb
the evil humanity does and crush humanity before its evil can spread
too far. That seems to be achieved through the separation into planets,
stars and galaxies, and natural issues with the speed of evolution for
evil versus good species. The way it seems to work is that the good
will tend to win, they have the best chances over time. In a smaller
way the separation in planets comes back in the separation into
Continents, in the separation through mountains and deserts, and so
on. It isolates creatures and those who do good will be protected for
a time, that gives them chances to develop faster and eventually
crush the evil beings. It doesn't necessarily go right every time, but
then there is always a larger size level and separation that can come
into play. I'd say this proves that the Universe is created with wisdom
and foresight.
Another way of looking at it is that being a wise creation it tends to be
popular; but all this is a bit speculative. Again I really don't care
about it, what I care about is economic law and Government models and
to change things here & now.
best regards, jos
--
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 16, 2012, 10:02:25 AM5/16/12
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On May 16, 2:31 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087c...
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
meaning that gives you propulsion.
Mine is Saeid Beik-Rassouli
It means Prosperous (one of) Lord-(of)Prophets
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >> Why & how: Democratic and Sovereign nations, democratic companies, <<
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
PS: Sorry to have insulted ur name! I know that your name has a
> >> natural resource distribution and socialized investment credit. <<
> System for society provided (Constitution etc.) + how to get it done (+ more).
meaning that gives you propulsion.
Mine is Saeid Beik-Rassouli
It means Prosperous (one of) Lord-(of)Prophets
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 16, 2012, 9:59:19 AM5/16/12
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On May 16, 2:31 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/msg/84507f297d4087c...
Ok, the diagram, shows three Components. The West, where U come from
in totality of your thought processes. All your references and
attempts are there to nullify a tsunami of Tyrannical Corporation
Machines...as if talking to the likes of Mr. T.REX, in intellectual
terms and trying to persuade it that Prey could be provided for it, in
a EVEN NEWER ECONOMIC MODEL...that basically says....fucking DO what I
SAY and CREATED and JUST DO IT or go AWAY....oh yeah currently Your
WESTERN SHIT is NOT WORKING like it has done for the past 2200 YEARS
OF WESTERN PREDATORY CULTURES, NATIONS and ECONOMIC MODELS!
Any ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT ENCAPSULATE ALL HUMANITY as
EQUALS.....well...I like to see ANY CUNT try, whilst I am present.
Now...The EAST part...Inhabited by Humans who Are MOTHER CULTURES.
They do differently to your lot in the West. They are MORE EVOLVED as
NATIONS and ECONOMIC MODELLING than ALL of the Western models.
However, also Predatory cultures.
In the Middle are the Iranians, who I lead as in CEO of I.I.R Inc.
Now, the best that U the individual can BE ever, again in my presence,
is either Israel.INC or HOLLAND Inc
Then They MUST APPROVE YOU. THEN YOU CAN IMPLEMENT YOUR ECONOMIC MODEL
to YOUR .inc
BE WARNED, no more than ONE inc. Per "Leader" Boss, CEO, Jesus,
hAshem, allAH or any shit like that...get it?
So What you Choose as UR title has to be supported by clear support
from the intellectual class present.
So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
in totality of your thought processes. All your references and
attempts are there to nullify a tsunami of Tyrannical Corporation
Machines...as if talking to the likes of Mr. T.REX, in intellectual
terms and trying to persuade it that Prey could be provided for it, in
a EVEN NEWER ECONOMIC MODEL...that basically says....fucking DO what I
SAY and CREATED and JUST DO IT or go AWAY....oh yeah currently Your
WESTERN SHIT is NOT WORKING like it has done for the past 2200 YEARS
OF WESTERN PREDATORY CULTURES, NATIONS and ECONOMIC MODELS!
Any ECONOMIC SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT ENCAPSULATE ALL HUMANITY as
EQUALS.....well...I like to see ANY CUNT try, whilst I am present.
Now...The EAST part...Inhabited by Humans who Are MOTHER CULTURES.
They do differently to your lot in the West. They are MORE EVOLVED as
NATIONS and ECONOMIC MODELLING than ALL of the Western models.
However, also Predatory cultures.
In the Middle are the Iranians, who I lead as in CEO of I.I.R Inc.
Now, the best that U the individual can BE ever, again in my presence,
is either Israel.INC or HOLLAND Inc
Then They MUST APPROVE YOU. THEN YOU CAN IMPLEMENT YOUR ECONOMIC MODEL
to YOUR .inc
BE WARNED, no more than ONE inc. Per "Leader" Boss, CEO, Jesus,
hAshem, allAH or any shit like that...get it?
So What you Choose as UR title has to be supported by clear support
from the intellectual class present.
So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
NefeshBarYocahi
May 16, 2012, 2:18:05 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 8:02 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
> It means Prosperous (one of) Lord-(of)Prophets- Hide quoted text -
dishonorable name. The main people that are anti-Semites like you are
the Germans, Aryans and Muslims these three kinds of peoples need to
be blotted out because they are the decedents of Amalek. They started
WWII and in the process they murdered 6,000,000 Jews and many other
innocent civilians. Now we need to pray that HaShem continues to you
and your kind until you are all dead. B”H
>
> - Show quoted text -
Bullshit. Youn name means asshole and queer. Also your name is a
> - Show quoted text -
dishonorable name. The main people that are anti-Semites like you are
the Germans, Aryans and Muslims these three kinds of peoples need to
be blotted out because they are the decedents of Amalek. They started
WWII and in the process they murdered 6,000,000 Jews and many other
innocent civilians. Now we need to pray that HaShem continues to you
and your kind until you are all dead. B”H
╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð_ID_SBR_X|||DI©*J*Ω∏lol؟♫1ﷲ☻∞= 8☺╣☼╠?
May 16, 2012, 3:29:56 PM5/16/12
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old, who has missed three years old schooling.
Ok Idiot. Germans are people from Germany a nation.
Aryans are a major racial (cultural) Group as big as the Chinese
racial groups. And Moslems are the 1300,000,000 people who live all
over the world, are of many races and nations and believe in ONE god
called THE GOD and ISLAM.
Only a STUPID MORONIC JEW would combine the above into "one" lump of
anti-semites.
The true number of People who DESPISE you MOTHER FUCKERS, is of course
much higher than your estimation.
If true world democracy ever existed.....by majority VOTE, your lot
would NEVER be able to be a problem again.
Just remember YID, I do not hate you because you are a semite. I hate
U because U R a member of a PARASITIC entity, collective, or whatever
the fuck u want to call it....
I, like MOST decent Humans DO NOT LIKE "THIEVES"...no matter How well
Organized and armed....
Now what the fuck is Hashem, when she is at home. is that Satan's new
"secret name"??
NefeshBarYocahi
May 16, 2012, 5:16:51 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 1:29 pm, ╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð_ID_SBR_X|||DI©*J*Ω∏lol؟♫1ﷲ☻∞= 8☺╣☼╠?
You are a dishonorable pussy, a lying stinking Muslim thief and if you
ever make the Haj to Saudi Arabia they’ll cut off your hands before
you can stick your dirty mittens in the slop pot because you are an
idolater and a no good asshole that masturbates like a monkey. I come
from good people not like you. I’m Jewish and I have many, many
Jewish and Christian friends. I’m for good people not bad people like
you. The Jewish people and Christians are good people, you and yours
on the other hand are cursed now and will continue to be cursed from
generation to generation you bumper lipped gorilla nosed asshole.
ever make the Haj to Saudi Arabia they’ll cut off your hands before
you can stick your dirty mittens in the slop pot because you are an
idolater and a no good asshole that masturbates like a monkey. I come
from good people not like you. I’m Jewish and I have many, many
Jewish and Christian friends. I’m for good people not bad people like
you. The Jewish people and Christians are good people, you and yours
on the other hand are cursed now and will continue to be cursed from
generation to generation you bumper lipped gorilla nosed asshole.
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 16, 2012, 5:36:15 PM5/16/12
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general....Which I had expected, before I start to fuck with your
"head"...or JEWISH "ant brain"
Of course u r proud to be born Jewish....Like u had a fucking CHOICE
before u was born..
Just because U belong to a PARASITIC family of cultures....does not
mean, the BODY does not appreciate you. Bacteria, Viruses and
parasitical higher forms, help create stronger breeds of humans and
animals. The Human body, NEEDS cultural parasites, in order to create
Models of Nations that are more to God's Liking.
He Created your PARASITIC nature, for that VERY PURPOSE. Your
Collective, may have Strangled many many empires by BLEEDING them DRY
and profiting from THEIR WARS...
However, in AIDING these Empires RISE.....you have also aided the
creation of great new nations in Europe and other less developed parts
of the new world.
So Credit where credit is due. The price for your efforts, has been
blessing to those who aided your host nations towards justice, liberty
and prosperity and HEAVY PUNISHMENT by the same GOD....whenever, your
"numbers" have become unsustainable and the BODY has REJECTED YOUR
"Rotten Degenerates" and Criminals...
I am SICKENED by your incessant WHINING about your SELF_PITY and
Treatment of your people by "others"!
If you accept that you are God's Chosen, Then YOU MUST ACCEPT REWARDS
and PUNISHMENTS at HIGHER than normal levels compared to Non Jews whom
do not SHARE your AMBITIONS in MANAGING God's AFFAIRS on his
behalf....
The Higher you Rise, the Harder you FALL...
You have now REACHED the point of diminishing returns. Jews are no
longer HIDDEN nor FEARED...You are as TRANSPARENT as YOU have never
been on such global basis....
Your Triangulation of OPPOSING intellectuals, has CEASED to be
affective....
The Best that you can do now, is to get Mr. JEWISH NATION "man" to
COME PERSONALLY and start talking to me. tell him, Saeid says, HIS
ENTIRE NATIONS Survival depends on it....
Or is that "Mrs Jewish nation"?
NefeshBarYocahi
May 16, 2012, 8:12:46 PM5/16/12
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On May 16, 3:36 pm, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
The reason you hate the Jews is because since the days of Lot we have
always been your betters. You will always hate mankind and being a
servant of servants because you are a lazy fat slob unable to hold a
job down so you resort to terrorism and terroristic thought. Bust a
cap in your head asshole and you will do all life a favor.
always been your betters. You will always hate mankind and being a
servant of servants because you are a lazy fat slob unable to hold a
job down so you resort to terrorism and terroristic thought. Bust a
cap in your head asshole and you will do all life a favor.
Jos Boersema
May 17, 2012, 3:19:11 AM5/17/12
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Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
try to be in politics, and since you need freedom of speech in politics,
that has to include wider freedom to say bad things about 'politicians.'
Though I'm not technically a politician (just proposing another system
in which you get politicians), it's still roughly the same kind of thing.
> Mine is Saeid Beik-Rassouli
> It means Prosperous (one of) Lord-(of)Prophets
My titles include: earth worm, and local weirdo. I am of no interest,
but I do try to argue the case of a new economic and Government model
that I think is interesting, that's all.
--
> On May 16, 2:31 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
[...]
>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> PS: Sorry to have insulted ur name! I know that your name has a
> meaning that gives you propulsion.
You haven't insulted me, and don't worry about it anyway. I sortof
> meaning that gives you propulsion.
try to be in politics, and since you need freedom of speech in politics,
that has to include wider freedom to say bad things about 'politicians.'
Though I'm not technically a politician (just proposing another system
in which you get politicians), it's still roughly the same kind of thing.
> Mine is Saeid Beik-Rassouli
> It means Prosperous (one of) Lord-(of)Prophets
but I do try to argue the case of a new economic and Government model
that I think is interesting, that's all.
--
Jos Boersema
May 17, 2012, 5:10:01 AM5/17/12
to
Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
[...]
that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
irrelevant:
Profit of companies should be distributed between those that
work there, or rather the power should be distributed and then they
can decide how to split the profits amongst themselves. They can
also hire a boss, even for a large cost, even a larger cost then
bosses now make, but it would be their own choices and hence that
wouldn't be an abuse. Investment credit has to be socialized, so
that they don't invest in dictatorias businesses and the influence
of finance in the economy can be mostly eliminated by withholding
most finance. People who work then make the economy and costumer
choices decide its direction (who wins and looses.) In a minor way
the investment credit can be used as a social tool, and to give
people a minor amount on loan. Not megalomaniacal projects from
either banks or politicians. Natural resources should be distributed,
so that all have that platform to start work from and that they
become harder to abuse by people with all the power. Those people
will then both find a people against them with more power, and at
the same time they find it harder to centralize all power because
the people already reserve much power for themselves. With power
equalized trades are likely to become fairer, because it becomes
harder to underpay people who have other alternatives open to them.
This does not require a new moral development where people will
suddenly love to be fair. People will hate being fair as much as
they do today, they may love Empire as much as they ever did. But
they in general will find it harder to make their abuses go through,
because they find people against them who are harder to abuse, while
those who may just as them try to abuse others likewise find people
against them who are harder to abuse as well. So this model pits the
self interest of people against each other, with power equalized more
then now, and hence the old rope war will end up in a stalemate more
often, or small victories for either side rather then overwhelming
victories against certain (labor) classes. That's the idea here.
If you have any comments on how economics functions or should function,
that may be interesting. In Islam it is noteworthy that they do have
laws against money games, but AFAIK no laws for distributing the land.
Is that true ?
--
[...]
> So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
It isn't about me, and you shouldn't make it about me. If you do
that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
irrelevant:
Profit of companies should be distributed between those that
work there, or rather the power should be distributed and then they
can decide how to split the profits amongst themselves. They can
also hire a boss, even for a large cost, even a larger cost then
bosses now make, but it would be their own choices and hence that
wouldn't be an abuse. Investment credit has to be socialized, so
that they don't invest in dictatorias businesses and the influence
of finance in the economy can be mostly eliminated by withholding
most finance. People who work then make the economy and costumer
choices decide its direction (who wins and looses.) In a minor way
the investment credit can be used as a social tool, and to give
people a minor amount on loan. Not megalomaniacal projects from
either banks or politicians. Natural resources should be distributed,
so that all have that platform to start work from and that they
become harder to abuse by people with all the power. Those people
will then both find a people against them with more power, and at
the same time they find it harder to centralize all power because
the people already reserve much power for themselves. With power
equalized trades are likely to become fairer, because it becomes
harder to underpay people who have other alternatives open to them.
This does not require a new moral development where people will
suddenly love to be fair. People will hate being fair as much as
they do today, they may love Empire as much as they ever did. But
they in general will find it harder to make their abuses go through,
because they find people against them who are harder to abuse, while
those who may just as them try to abuse others likewise find people
against them who are harder to abuse as well. So this model pits the
self interest of people against each other, with power equalized more
then now, and hence the old rope war will end up in a stalemate more
often, or small victories for either side rather then overwhelming
victories against certain (labor) classes. That's the idea here.
If you have any comments on how economics functions or should function,
that may be interesting. In Islam it is noteworthy that they do have
laws against money games, but AFAIK no laws for distributing the land.
Is that true ?
--
Jos Boersema
May 17, 2012, 5:45:40 AM5/17/12
to
Op 2012-05-17, Jos Boersema schreef <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl>:
[...]
But why will people want to live in a system that ends up fairer ?
On the positive most people will do better, since it is always the
few who get rich and the many who pay for it (although that is also
modulated by various issues, such as sometimes a people being so
undisciplined they will get nothing on the road until they start to
fan extreme wealth on a few of them who then discpline the rest for
the sake of their extreme wealth and power; like a monkey heap almost).
When the many get pressed in poverty, they would benefit from fairness.
Their lives will improve from fairness, hence their immediate interest
lines up with fairness. That ends to a degree once they have a moderate
income, at which point they may start to want to profit from unfairness.
However by that time the new system may be in place, and those on the
wrong end of their envisioned abuses (against what would roughly be
fair, which is always hard to guess exactly) will have the powers to
resist those attempts more effectively (then ever before.) Thus a
society can lock itself into this scheme, and find it hard to get out.
It shouldn't even want to get out.
On the negative is this zeal that people have to become a wealthy person
while others are poor. It's the power trip, the living in luxury and
so on; or just not having to work for the greedy angry boss anymore.
That last thing is notably different in the new system, where bosses
are almost all democratically approved by those they 'rule.' Companies
in a free trade context are like littly free ships, but they choose
their own captain if they even want one. Hence the pressure to want
to become a rich boss yourself to be rid of the bosses in your face will
not be there (as much or at all.) Working may become a source of joy.
People may think it asburd to want to be rich and not work, thinking of
all the fun and happyness they would be missing, all the interetsing
events they would be missing, things that today are ruined by the
corporate bosses and their financiers.
Nevertheless people don't know that yet, as they are still in the capitalist
machine and they may find it hard to envision how it would be in a proper
economy. Hence they may resist a fairer economy as a whole, as a system
for their nation, because they don't want to give up their chance to be
wealthy even though their reasons may not be valid in the new system.
It would seem that is the ideological/moral struggle here, and to a degree
it still requires a moral step forward for humanity to want to do the new
system as a whole, even though the system within its operations does not
require a moral improvement to have positive effects. For these reasons
we may not be able to get most of humanity on a proper economic model and/or
Government system that is a true democracy/republic.
*
The Torah again says something interesting about post-redemption Israel:
people who want to find fault with Israel, will end up convicted themselves.
What you always see with war is that the rulers want a pretext. Something
to get the commoners angry, it usually is a lie. Recently the Americans
destroyed a number of their own buildings and blamed it on enemies (9/11).
Hitler burned the Reichstag and pretended the Poles attacked a radio
station to get the people to do what he want. The poeple believe it, which
is key, because then they get angry and start to murder innocent people,
which is what the ruling classes desire. The activities of the state of
Israel against Iran are therefore dangerous, because they could lead into
a wider conflagration that the lying presses may be able to blame Israel
for later. That can then lead to another great persecution against the
Jews.
However after the redemption, so the Tanach says (the old prophets that
is), when Israel would be derided for something bad, those people doing
the attack will end up convicted themselves. This may be about things in
the public mind that precipitate war. If the Jews are known as good people
doing good, it becomes harder to ratify a war against them. It will be
harder for nations with failed economic models who don't want to do the
model propopsed here, and who as a concequence have more bad people in
power, to ratify a war against this Israel that might be doing the model
proposed here. The bosses of failed economics models do naturally want to
destroy nations that do better,because it gives their poor ideas. This
is something that the Tanach seems to say about is not that much of a
threat, because those doing the deceptive attack to precipitate war will
be themselves judged as guilty and hence end up powerless in ratifying
an Imperial politically motivated war of destruction against an Israel
doing these systems. That's what the Tanach seems to promise at least,
if it where to be viewed that this system here would be the redemption.
That is how it could make sense at least, within such a context. It seems
to be not an unreasonable conclusion given that context, and be a possible
source of hope that it will go right, even if many other nations end up
not doing a proper model and therefore end up more imperial and criminal
at their top levels of power.
[...]
> Profit of companies should be distributed between those that
> work there, or rather the power should be distributed and then they
> can decide how to split the profits amongst themselves. They can
> also hire a boss, even for a large cost, even a larger cost then
> bosses now make, but it would be their own choices and hence that
> wouldn't be an abuse. Investment credit has to be socialized, so
> that they don't invest in dictatorias businesses and the influence
> of finance in the economy can be mostly eliminated by withholding
> most finance. People who work then make the economy and costumer
> choices decide its direction (who wins and looses.) In a minor way
> the investment credit can be used as a social tool, and to give
> people a minor amount on loan. Not megalomaniacal projects from
> either banks or politicians. Natural resources should be distributed,
> so that all have that platform to start work from and that they
> become harder to abuse by people with all the power. Those people
> will then both find a people against them with more power, and at
> the same time they find it harder to centralize all power because
> the people already reserve much power for themselves. With power
> equalized trades are likely to become fairer, because it becomes
> harder to underpay people who have other alternatives open to them.
[...]
> work there, or rather the power should be distributed and then they
> can decide how to split the profits amongst themselves. They can
> also hire a boss, even for a large cost, even a larger cost then
> bosses now make, but it would be their own choices and hence that
> wouldn't be an abuse. Investment credit has to be socialized, so
> that they don't invest in dictatorias businesses and the influence
> of finance in the economy can be mostly eliminated by withholding
> most finance. People who work then make the economy and costumer
> choices decide its direction (who wins and looses.) In a minor way
> the investment credit can be used as a social tool, and to give
> people a minor amount on loan. Not megalomaniacal projects from
> either banks or politicians. Natural resources should be distributed,
> so that all have that platform to start work from and that they
> become harder to abuse by people with all the power. Those people
> will then both find a people against them with more power, and at
> the same time they find it harder to centralize all power because
> the people already reserve much power for themselves. With power
> equalized trades are likely to become fairer, because it becomes
> harder to underpay people who have other alternatives open to them.
But why will people want to live in a system that ends up fairer ?
On the positive most people will do better, since it is always the
few who get rich and the many who pay for it (although that is also
modulated by various issues, such as sometimes a people being so
undisciplined they will get nothing on the road until they start to
fan extreme wealth on a few of them who then discpline the rest for
the sake of their extreme wealth and power; like a monkey heap almost).
When the many get pressed in poverty, they would benefit from fairness.
Their lives will improve from fairness, hence their immediate interest
lines up with fairness. That ends to a degree once they have a moderate
income, at which point they may start to want to profit from unfairness.
However by that time the new system may be in place, and those on the
wrong end of their envisioned abuses (against what would roughly be
fair, which is always hard to guess exactly) will have the powers to
resist those attempts more effectively (then ever before.) Thus a
society can lock itself into this scheme, and find it hard to get out.
It shouldn't even want to get out.
On the negative is this zeal that people have to become a wealthy person
while others are poor. It's the power trip, the living in luxury and
so on; or just not having to work for the greedy angry boss anymore.
That last thing is notably different in the new system, where bosses
are almost all democratically approved by those they 'rule.' Companies
in a free trade context are like littly free ships, but they choose
their own captain if they even want one. Hence the pressure to want
to become a rich boss yourself to be rid of the bosses in your face will
not be there (as much or at all.) Working may become a source of joy.
People may think it asburd to want to be rich and not work, thinking of
all the fun and happyness they would be missing, all the interetsing
events they would be missing, things that today are ruined by the
corporate bosses and their financiers.
Nevertheless people don't know that yet, as they are still in the capitalist
machine and they may find it hard to envision how it would be in a proper
economy. Hence they may resist a fairer economy as a whole, as a system
for their nation, because they don't want to give up their chance to be
wealthy even though their reasons may not be valid in the new system.
It would seem that is the ideological/moral struggle here, and to a degree
it still requires a moral step forward for humanity to want to do the new
system as a whole, even though the system within its operations does not
require a moral improvement to have positive effects. For these reasons
we may not be able to get most of humanity on a proper economic model and/or
Government system that is a true democracy/republic.
*
The Torah again says something interesting about post-redemption Israel:
people who want to find fault with Israel, will end up convicted themselves.
What you always see with war is that the rulers want a pretext. Something
to get the commoners angry, it usually is a lie. Recently the Americans
destroyed a number of their own buildings and blamed it on enemies (9/11).
Hitler burned the Reichstag and pretended the Poles attacked a radio
station to get the people to do what he want. The poeple believe it, which
is key, because then they get angry and start to murder innocent people,
which is what the ruling classes desire. The activities of the state of
Israel against Iran are therefore dangerous, because they could lead into
a wider conflagration that the lying presses may be able to blame Israel
for later. That can then lead to another great persecution against the
Jews.
However after the redemption, so the Tanach says (the old prophets that
is), when Israel would be derided for something bad, those people doing
the attack will end up convicted themselves. This may be about things in
the public mind that precipitate war. If the Jews are known as good people
doing good, it becomes harder to ratify a war against them. It will be
harder for nations with failed economic models who don't want to do the
model propopsed here, and who as a concequence have more bad people in
power, to ratify a war against this Israel that might be doing the model
proposed here. The bosses of failed economics models do naturally want to
destroy nations that do better,because it gives their poor ideas. This
is something that the Tanach seems to say about is not that much of a
threat, because those doing the deceptive attack to precipitate war will
be themselves judged as guilty and hence end up powerless in ratifying
an Imperial politically motivated war of destruction against an Israel
doing these systems. That's what the Tanach seems to promise at least,
if it where to be viewed that this system here would be the redemption.
That is how it could make sense at least, within such a context. It seems
to be not an unreasonable conclusion given that context, and be a possible
source of hope that it will go right, even if many other nations end up
not doing a proper model and therefore end up more imperial and criminal
at their top levels of power.
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 17, 2012, 5:50:32 AM5/17/12
to
On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
would only follow ONE "LEADER" ONLY when I and NO one else has decided
that "he" or "she" is first QUALIFIED beyond my own abilities, and
that EVERYTHING about them as Individuals, families and relatives,
becomes Extremely important...
I do NOT EVER WISH A LAWYER of ANY KIND to EVER AGAIN "have" access TO
GOVERNMENT, Other than 3rd level contact.
I WOULD FORCE ALL LAWYERS FEES to HAVE A CAP of no more THAN THE
DOUBLE OF MINIMUM WAGE RATE in NATIONS they OPERATE, NO MATTER WHAT
THEIR SPECIALITY...
If I HAD A "PROFESSIONAL WEAPON" I would USE IT TO "ERADICATE" the
ENTIRE "LAWYER" GENE POOL from ALL FUTURE HUMANITY..
But in a way, I already have. £12 pounds an hour.....or Lawyer fee =
"minimum wage" x 2 per hour...
If they enter Politics, then they should get subsistence, plus 4 x
minimum wage...oh and that THEY DONATE THEIR ENTIRE INHERITED WEALTH
to A CHARITY of OUR CHOICE....
How does that sound as a Model?
Also....Any leader, should be transparent and always address "HIS or
HER" people, as more important than the "management" team....
A leader, should be willing to walk freely in public, without the need
for other people to protect him or her...
As such Leader, would be ONLY protected BY GOD and KILLED by the SAME,
should he or she fail to be admired by all and sundry and not terrify
people, with hundreds of heavily armed professional killers....as the
Front end interface to "his" crew, people or what have u...
Above all, he or she must be an educated person, a visionary in
"technology" and Business management...A humanist
Then when you have found such leader...let him or her come to these
groups and try to earn our credit....by taking it on the chin...and
know when to give up and re-try...
I am sorry, that you were trained as a lawyer and have ambitions to
become a politician...
If you had Started a multi-billion dollar business empire and HATED
politicians and Lawyers....then You would make a much better
leader....if you were not a GEEK like bill gates....
Now if you think about it carefully, does it really matter, if your
effectively employees were "religious" or political ideologists at
all?
The answer is yes and no. If the FOUNDER of this "new" model, is a
GOOD, God Fearing, Respectable man in his family and community...then
His Ship shall always be guided the "righteous" way....if not...then
the whole "ship" will crash and burn...
So enough of telling people, what or who they should believe in before
they start....
Show us that you are a good father to your children...tell us about
mistakes that you have made as a parent and how your leader ship can
make better parents than the ones who fuck the world, after they have
fucked up their own family and children...
Before any leader is given "authority" over OUR CHILDREN....that
Leader better be an exemplary father, or ideally a grandfather, before
he even dreams of "leading" my local Public Toilet sanitation team,
before my community, my city or nation..
> --http://www.law4.org Communism, anarchy and capitalism are insufficient.
> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> [...]
>
> > So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>
> It isn't about me, and you shouldn't make it about me. If you do
> that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
> the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
> to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
> irrelevant:
I am very sorry you feel that way. I think quite the very opposite. I
>
> > So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>
> It isn't about me, and you shouldn't make it about me. If you do
> that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
> the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
> to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
> irrelevant:
would only follow ONE "LEADER" ONLY when I and NO one else has decided
that "he" or "she" is first QUALIFIED beyond my own abilities, and
that EVERYTHING about them as Individuals, families and relatives,
becomes Extremely important...
I do NOT EVER WISH A LAWYER of ANY KIND to EVER AGAIN "have" access TO
GOVERNMENT, Other than 3rd level contact.
I WOULD FORCE ALL LAWYERS FEES to HAVE A CAP of no more THAN THE
DOUBLE OF MINIMUM WAGE RATE in NATIONS they OPERATE, NO MATTER WHAT
THEIR SPECIALITY...
If I HAD A "PROFESSIONAL WEAPON" I would USE IT TO "ERADICATE" the
ENTIRE "LAWYER" GENE POOL from ALL FUTURE HUMANITY..
But in a way, I already have. £12 pounds an hour.....or Lawyer fee =
"minimum wage" x 2 per hour...
If they enter Politics, then they should get subsistence, plus 4 x
minimum wage...oh and that THEY DONATE THEIR ENTIRE INHERITED WEALTH
to A CHARITY of OUR CHOICE....
How does that sound as a Model?
Also....Any leader, should be transparent and always address "HIS or
HER" people, as more important than the "management" team....
A leader, should be willing to walk freely in public, without the need
for other people to protect him or her...
As such Leader, would be ONLY protected BY GOD and KILLED by the SAME,
should he or she fail to be admired by all and sundry and not terrify
people, with hundreds of heavily armed professional killers....as the
Front end interface to "his" crew, people or what have u...
Above all, he or she must be an educated person, a visionary in
"technology" and Business management...A humanist
Then when you have found such leader...let him or her come to these
groups and try to earn our credit....by taking it on the chin...and
know when to give up and re-try...
I am sorry, that you were trained as a lawyer and have ambitions to
become a politician...
If you had Started a multi-billion dollar business empire and HATED
politicians and Lawyers....then You would make a much better
leader....if you were not a GEEK like bill gates....
Now if you think about it carefully, does it really matter, if your
effectively employees were "religious" or political ideologists at
all?
The answer is yes and no. If the FOUNDER of this "new" model, is a
GOOD, God Fearing, Respectable man in his family and community...then
His Ship shall always be guided the "righteous" way....if not...then
the whole "ship" will crash and burn...
So enough of telling people, what or who they should believe in before
they start....
Show us that you are a good father to your children...tell us about
mistakes that you have made as a parent and how your leader ship can
make better parents than the ones who fuck the world, after they have
fucked up their own family and children...
Before any leader is given "authority" over OUR CHILDREN....that
Leader better be an exemplary father, or ideally a grandfather, before
he even dreams of "leading" my local Public Toilet sanitation team,
before my community, my city or nation..
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 17, 2012, 7:14:50 AM5/17/12
to
On May 17, 10:50 am, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
He also needs to be a Strategist who has a better grasp of Science and
technology than Most experts, on basic principles of ALL sub-divisions
of science..#
The WORLD no LONGER NEEDS FUCKING "LAWYERS" and BEAN COUNTERS to RULE
OVER OUR INDUSTRIES, UNIVERSITIES, HOSPITALS, GOVERNMENT all ANY OTHER
FUCKING PLACE IN SOCIETY than the BOTTOM FEEDERS that THEY HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN!
Please note: Politician = A "Rich and Powerful" Lawyer with a Good
Accountant Friend. Difference between Ambitious Lawyer, in Politics
and an Ambitious "book Keeper" come BANKER.
So if You "Make LAW" and MAKE BANK....THEN get READY to BE
EXTERMINATED.
In virtual terms of course. too messy otherwise...
However, sometimes, everyone "seeing" a big Picture, could actually
turn it into a difffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffferent picture..
you see, when you want to introduce a new system.....it is always best
to start with a "clean" slate.
Now, many have come and tried to "eradicate" a whole nation, so that
they can re-build it.
Eradicating a WHOLE profession, is much easier than those who practice
it.
Lets make LAWYERS to ACHIEVE the TITLE of the LOWEST LIFE-FORMS that
civilizations have EVER produced...Lets DETER ANY young PERSON from
EVER studying LAW and guide him to become a geochronologist
instead....as in TREAT CUNTS, rather than BECOME a RICH ONE...
Inshahallah and Pray Jesus or whomever listening..
#
Amen
technology than Most experts, on basic principles of ALL sub-divisions
of science..#
The WORLD no LONGER NEEDS FUCKING "LAWYERS" and BEAN COUNTERS to RULE
OVER OUR INDUSTRIES, UNIVERSITIES, HOSPITALS, GOVERNMENT all ANY OTHER
FUCKING PLACE IN SOCIETY than the BOTTOM FEEDERS that THEY HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN!
Please note: Politician = A "Rich and Powerful" Lawyer with a Good
Accountant Friend. Difference between Ambitious Lawyer, in Politics
and an Ambitious "book Keeper" come BANKER.
So if You "Make LAW" and MAKE BANK....THEN get READY to BE
EXTERMINATED.
In virtual terms of course. too messy otherwise...
However, sometimes, everyone "seeing" a big Picture, could actually
turn it into a difffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffferent picture..
you see, when you want to introduce a new system.....it is always best
to start with a "clean" slate.
Now, many have come and tried to "eradicate" a whole nation, so that
they can re-build it.
Eradicating a WHOLE profession, is much easier than those who practice
it.
Lets make LAWYERS to ACHIEVE the TITLE of the LOWEST LIFE-FORMS that
civilizations have EVER produced...Lets DETER ANY young PERSON from
EVER studying LAW and guide him to become a geochronologist
instead....as in TREAT CUNTS, rather than BECOME a RICH ONE...
Inshahallah and Pray Jesus or whomever listening..
#
Amen
Jos Boersema
May 17, 2012, 7:22:17 AM5/17/12
to
Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
mind in a good way with your brothers and sisters around you who do the
same. The system is such that it gives you ways to organize that.
Also what you say that you want to 'follow a leader,' that is idolatry
to me. I don't want followers, people who follow leaders are not capable
of living in the system I am proposing where you have t othink for yourself,
make your own decisions and oppose whom you perhaps thought where your
delegates when they make mistakes, and you have to depose them and
expose them. It doesn't matter what you think about their private lives,
or taht they may seem perfect. Secondly you would have to listen to bad
people, whom you may think are bad but about perhaps where spread lies
or perhaps they even did bad things, who may be right about certain issues.
You will have to look at the issues and not at the people, to live in
a true democracy/republic.
> I do NOT EVER WISH A LAWYER of ANY KIND to EVER AGAIN "have" access TO
> GOVERNMENT, Other than 3rd level contact.
?
> I WOULD FORCE ALL LAWYERS FEES to HAVE A CAP of no more THAN THE
> DOUBLE OF MINIMUM WAGE RATE in NATIONS they OPERATE, NO MATTER WHAT
> THEIR SPECIALITY...
I disagree with that. Lawyering can be in the free market in principle.
They can ask the fee that they still get a costumer, which may vary
by lawyer.
> If I HAD A "PROFESSIONAL WEAPON" I would USE IT TO "ERADICATE" the
> ENTIRE "LAWYER" GENE POOL from ALL FUTURE HUMANITY..
I disagree.
> But in a way, I already have. £12 pounds an hour.....or Lawyer fee =
> "minimum wage" x 2 per hour...
>
> If they enter Politics, then they should get subsistence, plus 4 x
> minimum wage...oh and that THEY DONATE THEIR ENTIRE INHERITED WEALTH
> to A CHARITY of OUR CHOICE....
>
> How does that sound as a Model?
It does not sound good, although I have laws that describe the income
of the representatives in Government which is designed to get that
power away from them and to keep it somewhere in the order of an average
or median income (or a bit above that I think I did it). They are in
the service of the poeple, the people are their employer, and hence
the people define their income. The strongest way to do that is through
Constitutional law, although in this system the Government can barely
move an arm without the people agreeing with it.
> Also....Any leader, should be transparent and always address "HIS or
> HER" people, as more important than the "management" team....
Perhaps so, but who said I was your or anyone else's leader ? In this
system if you elect your delegates in groups of 50, you can get to know
them quite well, and ask them how they make a living. That is how this
works, that is where you find your "leader" if you want to call it that
(i always avoid that term and use spokespersons or delegates.) You put
me in a role perhaps, that I am not wanting or getting into. Perhaps
you imagine that if you do what I say, then I am your leader. That's
wrong: I argue the case of my systems logically, I ask to verify it
logically and then you will only do it to the degree you understand it
and agree with it. Therefore you will not do what I say, but what you
yourself say. I am hence not leading you. At worst you could say I am
suggesting something to you, even like someone standing with a cup of
soup in his hand I might suggest to them if they don't want a plate with
that and give them one, but I do not take executive control of you. A
servant in a canteen isn't the master of his costumers, and when the
costumers take the plate and say 'maybe not a bad idea,' that doesn't
mean the soup serving individual has become the leader of the clients
who are buying the soup. That is the relation here: I am suggesting
something to you, for obvious reasons (economic and Governmental problems
in the world); whatever you do with that suggestion is wholly yours
to decide, and even if you do what I suggest I don't become your boss
at any time. Besides I will actively resist becoming your 'boss,' which
I will do by simply not saying anything anymore, leaving you without
bossing until you take control over your own decisions again if you
where to make me your boss that is.
> A leader, should be willing to walk freely in public, without the need
> for other people to protect him or her...
>
> As such Leader, would be ONLY protected BY GOD and KILLED by the SAME,
> should he or she fail to be admired by all and sundry and not terrify
> people, with hundreds of heavily armed professional killers....as the
> Front end interface to "his" crew, people or what have u...
It is perfectly well known where I live and I have already said how
I make a living. I am one of the few individuals on Usenet who is not
anonymous. But you want to make this about me, and that is wrong: it
is not about me but about the logic of the systems proposed, and the
logic of the systems to be replaced.
> Above all, he or she must be an educated person, a visionary in
> "technology" and Business management...A humanist
>
> Then when you have found such leader...let him or her come to these
> groups and try to earn our credit....by taking it on the chin...and
> know when to give up and re-try...
>
> I am sorry, that you were trained as a lawyer and have ambitions to
> become a politician...
I am not trained as a lawyer, and do not want to become a politician.
> If you had Started a multi-billion dollar business empire and HATED
> politicians and Lawyers....then You would make a much better
> leader....if you were not a GEEK like bill gates....
>
> Now if you think about it carefully, does it really matter, if your
> effectively employees were "religious" or political ideologists at
> all?
>
> The answer is yes and no. If the FOUNDER of this "new" model, is a
> GOOD, God Fearing, Respectable man in his family and community...then
> His Ship shall always be guided the "righteous" way....if not...then
> the whole "ship" will crash and burn...
>
> So enough of telling people, what or who they should believe in before
> they start....
>
> Show us that you are a good father to your children...tell us about
> mistakes that you have made as a parent and how your leader ship can
> make better parents than the ones who fuck the world, after they have
> fucked up their own family and children...
There is no leadership here. This is why I target the Jews, because they
where one of the first or first nation to start to reduce their idolatry.
Sadly they failed, but I think they are hopefully still one of the least
idolatrous nations and can therefore think for themselves.
> Before any leader is given "authority" over OUR CHILDREN....that
> Leader better be an exemplary father, or ideally a grandfather, before
> he even dreams of "leading" my local Public Toilet sanitation team,
> before my community, my city or nation..
I can't and don't want to lead a nation of idolators. I only want to
suggest good things t opoeple who want to think for themselves, as they
are the only ones capable of doing it anyway. The rest will only turn
it all into a great catastrophe, and end up blaming me for it.
IF you want to make me the leader, then I already gave you the only
order I will give: look into my stuffs, do them if you understand and
agree (BOTH, if you don't understand then you can also not agree). If
you either don't understand or not agree, then don't do them. Only do
what you want to in them, and don't do what you don't want to do in tem.
Don't make me your leader, I don't want to be your boss because I am
not looking for slaves or to promote slavery in the world, and neither
am I looking to create an Empire or Monarchy in the world. I aim to
create fairness and democracy for people who can sanely and friendly
talk with their neighbors and others and solve their own problems
reasonably and rationally for which they do not need leaders or bosses.
They may need some delegation to hammer out details, but that is
something else. For that reason the new state system can function.
Since you are looking for a boss, I will have sadly no place for you
in this system until you change that and want to lead yourself.
> On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>> [...]
>>
>>> So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>>
>> It isn't about me, and you shouldn't make it about me. If you do
>> that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
>> the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
>> to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
>> irrelevant:
>
> I am very sorry you feel that way. I think quite the very opposite. I
> would only follow ONE "LEADER" ONLY when I and NO one else has decided
> that "he" or "she" is first QUALIFIED beyond my own abilities, and
> that EVERYTHING about them as Individuals, families and relatives,
> becomes Extremely important...
I am not asking you to follow me, but that you follow your own logical
>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>> [...]
>>
>>> So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>>
>> It isn't about me, and you shouldn't make it about me. If you do
>> that's idolatry, substituting investigating a person rather then
>> the content of what is proposed on its own merrit. Hence it is best
>> to talk about what is important, and not about what is idolatry and
>> irrelevant:
>
> I am very sorry you feel that way. I think quite the very opposite. I
> would only follow ONE "LEADER" ONLY when I and NO one else has decided
> that "he" or "she" is first QUALIFIED beyond my own abilities, and
> that EVERYTHING about them as Individuals, families and relatives,
> becomes Extremely important...
mind in a good way with your brothers and sisters around you who do the
same. The system is such that it gives you ways to organize that.
Also what you say that you want to 'follow a leader,' that is idolatry
to me. I don't want followers, people who follow leaders are not capable
of living in the system I am proposing where you have t othink for yourself,
make your own decisions and oppose whom you perhaps thought where your
delegates when they make mistakes, and you have to depose them and
expose them. It doesn't matter what you think about their private lives,
or taht they may seem perfect. Secondly you would have to listen to bad
people, whom you may think are bad but about perhaps where spread lies
or perhaps they even did bad things, who may be right about certain issues.
You will have to look at the issues and not at the people, to live in
a true democracy/republic.
> I do NOT EVER WISH A LAWYER of ANY KIND to EVER AGAIN "have" access TO
> GOVERNMENT, Other than 3rd level contact.
> I WOULD FORCE ALL LAWYERS FEES to HAVE A CAP of no more THAN THE
> DOUBLE OF MINIMUM WAGE RATE in NATIONS they OPERATE, NO MATTER WHAT
> THEIR SPECIALITY...
They can ask the fee that they still get a costumer, which may vary
by lawyer.
> If I HAD A "PROFESSIONAL WEAPON" I would USE IT TO "ERADICATE" the
> ENTIRE "LAWYER" GENE POOL from ALL FUTURE HUMANITY..
> But in a way, I already have. £12 pounds an hour.....or Lawyer fee =
> "minimum wage" x 2 per hour...
>
> If they enter Politics, then they should get subsistence, plus 4 x
> minimum wage...oh and that THEY DONATE THEIR ENTIRE INHERITED WEALTH
> to A CHARITY of OUR CHOICE....
>
> How does that sound as a Model?
of the representatives in Government which is designed to get that
power away from them and to keep it somewhere in the order of an average
or median income (or a bit above that I think I did it). They are in
the service of the poeple, the people are their employer, and hence
the people define their income. The strongest way to do that is through
Constitutional law, although in this system the Government can barely
move an arm without the people agreeing with it.
> Also....Any leader, should be transparent and always address "HIS or
> HER" people, as more important than the "management" team....
system if you elect your delegates in groups of 50, you can get to know
them quite well, and ask them how they make a living. That is how this
works, that is where you find your "leader" if you want to call it that
(i always avoid that term and use spokespersons or delegates.) You put
me in a role perhaps, that I am not wanting or getting into. Perhaps
you imagine that if you do what I say, then I am your leader. That's
wrong: I argue the case of my systems logically, I ask to verify it
logically and then you will only do it to the degree you understand it
and agree with it. Therefore you will not do what I say, but what you
yourself say. I am hence not leading you. At worst you could say I am
suggesting something to you, even like someone standing with a cup of
soup in his hand I might suggest to them if they don't want a plate with
that and give them one, but I do not take executive control of you. A
servant in a canteen isn't the master of his costumers, and when the
costumers take the plate and say 'maybe not a bad idea,' that doesn't
mean the soup serving individual has become the leader of the clients
who are buying the soup. That is the relation here: I am suggesting
something to you, for obvious reasons (economic and Governmental problems
in the world); whatever you do with that suggestion is wholly yours
to decide, and even if you do what I suggest I don't become your boss
at any time. Besides I will actively resist becoming your 'boss,' which
I will do by simply not saying anything anymore, leaving you without
bossing until you take control over your own decisions again if you
where to make me your boss that is.
> A leader, should be willing to walk freely in public, without the need
> for other people to protect him or her...
>
> As such Leader, would be ONLY protected BY GOD and KILLED by the SAME,
> should he or she fail to be admired by all and sundry and not terrify
> people, with hundreds of heavily armed professional killers....as the
> Front end interface to "his" crew, people or what have u...
I make a living. I am one of the few individuals on Usenet who is not
anonymous. But you want to make this about me, and that is wrong: it
is not about me but about the logic of the systems proposed, and the
logic of the systems to be replaced.
> Above all, he or she must be an educated person, a visionary in
> "technology" and Business management...A humanist
>
> Then when you have found such leader...let him or her come to these
> groups and try to earn our credit....by taking it on the chin...and
> know when to give up and re-try...
>
> I am sorry, that you were trained as a lawyer and have ambitions to
> become a politician...
> If you had Started a multi-billion dollar business empire and HATED
> politicians and Lawyers....then You would make a much better
> leader....if you were not a GEEK like bill gates....
>
> Now if you think about it carefully, does it really matter, if your
> effectively employees were "religious" or political ideologists at
> all?
>
> The answer is yes and no. If the FOUNDER of this "new" model, is a
> GOOD, God Fearing, Respectable man in his family and community...then
> His Ship shall always be guided the "righteous" way....if not...then
> the whole "ship" will crash and burn...
>
> So enough of telling people, what or who they should believe in before
> they start....
>
> Show us that you are a good father to your children...tell us about
> mistakes that you have made as a parent and how your leader ship can
> make better parents than the ones who fuck the world, after they have
> fucked up their own family and children...
where one of the first or first nation to start to reduce their idolatry.
Sadly they failed, but I think they are hopefully still one of the least
idolatrous nations and can therefore think for themselves.
> Before any leader is given "authority" over OUR CHILDREN....that
> Leader better be an exemplary father, or ideally a grandfather, before
> he even dreams of "leading" my local Public Toilet sanitation team,
> before my community, my city or nation..
suggest good things t opoeple who want to think for themselves, as they
are the only ones capable of doing it anyway. The rest will only turn
it all into a great catastrophe, and end up blaming me for it.
IF you want to make me the leader, then I already gave you the only
order I will give: look into my stuffs, do them if you understand and
agree (BOTH, if you don't understand then you can also not agree). If
you either don't understand or not agree, then don't do them. Only do
what you want to in them, and don't do what you don't want to do in tem.
Don't make me your leader, I don't want to be your boss because I am
not looking for slaves or to promote slavery in the world, and neither
am I looking to create an Empire or Monarchy in the world. I aim to
create fairness and democracy for people who can sanely and friendly
talk with their neighbors and others and solve their own problems
reasonably and rationally for which they do not need leaders or bosses.
They may need some delegation to hammer out details, but that is
something else. For that reason the new state system can function.
Since you are looking for a boss, I will have sadly no place for you
in this system until you change that and want to lead yourself.
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 17, 2012, 7:23:46 AM5/17/12
to
On May 17, 12:14 pm, "الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
a Freudian Slip; Meant become a gynochologist
"الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð:"
May 17, 2012, 8:17:02 AM5/17/12
to
On May 17, 12:22 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
All of it is about u.
You are proposing a "legal, Financial, Political system"...just
because, you know what is wrong with those systems.
So then you want *****US**** to BUY it but not HOLD YOU PERSONALLY
RESPONSIBLE and have YOU HANG FOR IT, if we THINK it is all More
LAWYER BULLSHIT..
What my system is about, is about a "Virtual Corporate Model" that
ELIMINATES LAWYERS and PUTS THE WHOLE FUCKING BUNCH OF THEM AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE SOCIETY...
In Business terms, U have something worth buying. Ok, if U middleman,
then 50/50 Profit minus costs. All costs shared 50/50 Irrespective of
the relative sides of the deal or one LINK in the supply chain.
Screw anyone on ONE DEAL and LOSE YOUR ENTIRE WEALTH AND TITLE.
Now, WE DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GOD< RELIGION NOR ANY OTHER IDEOLOGY
u might HOLD on the other Equal SIDE of the DEAL.
Nations OWN THE ENTIRE RIGHTS OVER THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES, IN
TOTALITY OF THE DEFINITION!
Those WHO MANUFACTURE, or Produce, WILL OPERATE AT NO MORE THAN 15%
Net profit margin...
Those Middlemen, should earn no more than 3% on each transaction...
How Each side, internally organizes itself, is only a COST issue for
the other party, that SHALL NOT be included in the COST of EACH
TRANSACTION...
Strategic Relations, between Two Sides, only become a matter of the
Volume of Deals between those Two Parties...
I am Not an Expert on Taxes and Macro Economics. However, the State
getting 50% of the 25%(?) or 3% net profits, would be a fair solution
for Corporate's ethical health...
So a System, that defines an atom of a Business Model and not the
Entire picture and its potential outcome in some unknown future, which
can not be seen by its constituent parts...
Now the hierarchy of supply chains, becomes a flattish line.
So each member of the system, then becomes a SINGLE business point,
from Birth ideally.
I am of course speaking in general terms.
Now, having worked on this model for some 27 years, including actually
trading in California for some 8 years...by 1995, my prototype started
to produce very good results...
That was 17 years ago, when Internet was at it's infancy re: the
"masses"....
I introduced my mind publicly in sometimes great laborious details. A
bit like what u r doing now...
However, I was about 15 years ahead of my time. The virtual corporate
concepts had just come into existence, and the World's intellectual
capacity, was visible to me, a lot more than those who were in it. I
introduced the intellectual atom concept and predicted a stage in
future that I termed achieving "The Critical Mass".
Now I also talked about intellectual Fusion and how an equivalent of a
Hydrogen bomb was about to explode....
I was again, as most of my life, at least 10-15 years ahead of my
peers...
So.....The world has been moving in the right direction and apart from
a nudge here or there....the system is working as DESIGNED by "man
gods" in some parts better than others....but change is occuring very
fast.
Please see that ALL you are DOING is nothing but TRYING to BE REGARDED
as the New Karl Marx. and That Offends me and insults my intelligence.
As he is responsible for two world wars and still the world is paying
the price of his vision..
Not to mention Freud, whose INCESTUAL JEWISH(Egyptian) Cultural
traits, impelling them to "marry" their mothers, since good for
business...
The FOOL did not understand the psychological FUCKUPS in the FIRST 5
YEARS of LIFE in a Jewish family....
How many millions of mental patients have paid their life away to that
CUNT and those who made a Lucrative industry to Profit from it.../
So you EITHER LEAD or YOU FOLLOW
or as I have always said to people with "ideas" for other
people.....GET FUCK OUT OF *****OUR***** way!
Not meant in a personal level...as we Persian are renowned for
"talking to the Window" so that the Door can hear...
> >> most finance. People who work then make the...
>
> read more »
> Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> >> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >> [...]
>
> >>> So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>
> >> It isn't about me,
I am sorry that indicates a sever lack of Courage.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
> >> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
> >> [...]
>
> >>> So what is your name and what do you do for a living?
>
> >> It isn't about me,
All of it is about u.
You are proposing a "legal, Financial, Political system"...just
because, you know what is wrong with those systems.
So then you want *****US**** to BUY it but not HOLD YOU PERSONALLY
RESPONSIBLE and have YOU HANG FOR IT, if we THINK it is all More
LAWYER BULLSHIT..
What my system is about, is about a "Virtual Corporate Model" that
ELIMINATES LAWYERS and PUTS THE WHOLE FUCKING BUNCH OF THEM AT THE
BOTTOM OF THE SOCIETY...
In Business terms, U have something worth buying. Ok, if U middleman,
then 50/50 Profit minus costs. All costs shared 50/50 Irrespective of
the relative sides of the deal or one LINK in the supply chain.
Screw anyone on ONE DEAL and LOSE YOUR ENTIRE WEALTH AND TITLE.
Now, WE DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT GOD< RELIGION NOR ANY OTHER IDEOLOGY
u might HOLD on the other Equal SIDE of the DEAL.
Nations OWN THE ENTIRE RIGHTS OVER THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES, IN
TOTALITY OF THE DEFINITION!
Those WHO MANUFACTURE, or Produce, WILL OPERATE AT NO MORE THAN 15%
Net profit margin...
Those Middlemen, should earn no more than 3% on each transaction...
How Each side, internally organizes itself, is only a COST issue for
the other party, that SHALL NOT be included in the COST of EACH
TRANSACTION...
Strategic Relations, between Two Sides, only become a matter of the
Volume of Deals between those Two Parties...
I am Not an Expert on Taxes and Macro Economics. However, the State
getting 50% of the 25%(?) or 3% net profits, would be a fair solution
for Corporate's ethical health...
So a System, that defines an atom of a Business Model and not the
Entire picture and its potential outcome in some unknown future, which
can not be seen by its constituent parts...
Now the hierarchy of supply chains, becomes a flattish line.
So each member of the system, then becomes a SINGLE business point,
from Birth ideally.
I am of course speaking in general terms.
Now, having worked on this model for some 27 years, including actually
trading in California for some 8 years...by 1995, my prototype started
to produce very good results...
That was 17 years ago, when Internet was at it's infancy re: the
"masses"....
I introduced my mind publicly in sometimes great laborious details. A
bit like what u r doing now...
However, I was about 15 years ahead of my time. The virtual corporate
concepts had just come into existence, and the World's intellectual
capacity, was visible to me, a lot more than those who were in it. I
introduced the intellectual atom concept and predicted a stage in
future that I termed achieving "The Critical Mass".
Now I also talked about intellectual Fusion and how an equivalent of a
Hydrogen bomb was about to explode....
I was again, as most of my life, at least 10-15 years ahead of my
peers...
So.....The world has been moving in the right direction and apart from
a nudge here or there....the system is working as DESIGNED by "man
gods" in some parts better than others....but change is occuring very
fast.
Please see that ALL you are DOING is nothing but TRYING to BE REGARDED
as the New Karl Marx. and That Offends me and insults my intelligence.
As he is responsible for two world wars and still the world is paying
the price of his vision..
Not to mention Freud, whose INCESTUAL JEWISH(Egyptian) Cultural
traits, impelling them to "marry" their mothers, since good for
business...
The FOOL did not understand the psychological FUCKUPS in the FIRST 5
YEARS of LIFE in a Jewish family....
How many millions of mental patients have paid their life away to that
CUNT and those who made a Lucrative industry to Profit from it.../
So you EITHER LEAD or YOU FOLLOW
or as I have always said to people with "ideas" for other
people.....GET FUCK OUT OF *****OUR***** way!
Not meant in a personal level...as we Persian are renowned for
"talking to the Window" so that the Door can hear...
>
> read more »
NefeshBarYocahi
May 17, 2012, 10:32:36 AM5/17/12
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Look you ignorant savage Muslim homosexual nobody wants to read you
masturbations your filthy humper of Muslim hogs.
masturbations your filthy humper of Muslim hogs.
Lady Veteran
May 17, 2012, 11:39:14 AM5/17/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT), NefeshBarYocahi
<lbit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 16, 8:02 am, "?????????? ??????????????????§â€Ð:"
>> > >> Op 2012-05-10, ?????????? ??????????????????§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > >> > On May 10, 11:22 am, "?????????? ??????????????????§â€Ð:"
You know, by posting things like this you are acting like the
anti-Semites that you hate. Did you ever think of that. It is not up
to YOU to judge THEM. HaShem will take care of all the haters in His
good time. Make sure you are not one of them.
LV
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>On May 16, 8:02 am, "?????????? ??????????????????§â€Ð:"
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>> On May 16, 2:31 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
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>> On May 16, 2:31 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
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anti-Semites that you hate. Did you ever think of that. It is not up
to YOU to judge THEM. HaShem will take care of all the haters in His
good time. Make sure you are not one of them.
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Jos Boersema
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Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simo...@gmail.com>:
First learn that idolatry doesn't work.
> All of it is about u.
Then I can't help you. All of it is about you.
> On May 17, 12:22 pm, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>> Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>>> On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>>>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
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> I am sorry that indicates a sever lack of Courage.
That's fine with me; I can't answer people who are looking for an idol.
>> Op 2012-05-17, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
>>> On May 17, 10:10 am, Jos Boersema <jo...@xs4all.DelmeNospam.nl> wrote:
>>>> Op 2012-05-16, الصِّرَاطَ الْمُسْتَقِيم╠☼╣Ǚ∑§â€Ð: schreef <simonb...@gmail.com>:
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> I am sorry that indicates a sever lack of Courage.
First learn that idolatry doesn't work.
> All of it is about u.
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