To Irgun, Lessons from Hindu History about Muslims
irgun43
Lessons read and filed away.
The problem lies with the elite in Israel which consists of the Labor
party functionaries allied with the media and the university. These people
are all in bed together. The media brainwashes the population while the
university brainwashes the young.
These people really belong in some London pub around the London School
of Economics. They are made for sitting around, theorizing while the Moslem
mob is howling outside.
These people are ignorant of the power of an ideological religion like
Islam. In their arrogance, they think that handing out a video cassete
recorder and TV to some afghan will immediately convert him to consumerism.
I believe in free speech. However, I'd be tempted to hold those in
power today as criminally liable for the deaths that we see in the news
every day.
irgun43
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> Lesson1
> Islamic barbarism started with the prophet,
> *he killed, converted and ethnic cleansed all non-muslims from arabia
> It is not an israel arab war, it is a jew-muslim war
>
> Lesson2
> Muslims break treaties
> *In 870 AD, the muslims broke a peace treaty and launched a surprise
> attack on the hindu kingdom of Gandhara ( Afghanistan ) all hindus
> who did not convert were massacred. The mountains of Afghanistan were
> renamed Hindu Kush ( place of Hindu Massacre )
>
> *Pakistan has broken treaties and attacked India in 1947, 1965, 1971
> and 1999
>
> Lesson3
> Internal muslims are traitors
> *In 1191, Indian muslims invited the Afghan king Ghori to attack India
> *Over 50000 Indian muslims have been arrested for treason
> *When Jinnah's papers were recently released. It has now been revealed
> that ex-presidents of India ( a ceremonial post )
> Zakir Husain and Fakruddin Ali Ahmed were agents of Jinnah.
> *Maulana Azad, a congressman who opposed partition, since he wanted to
> islamise of all of India. During negotiations with Jinnah to avoid
> partition, he came up with the plan of giving the 24% muslims, 50% of
> political power, fortunately he was over-ruled
> *Sardar Patel a nationalistic congressman, described Nehru as the
> only nationalistic muslim
>
> Lesson4
> Dont let Muslims into key positions
> *In 1334 in Kashmir, the hindu kings had hired a lot of muslim
> mercenaries and he was overthrown in a coup and most of kashmir forcibly
> converted to islam
> *In 1565, the hindu empire of vijayanagar kept a lot of muslim generals
> At the battle of Talikota against the muslims, the muslim generals of
> Vijayanagar switched sides, leading to destruction of vijayanagar
> *In 1760, the muslim general of Mysore, Hyder Ali, launched a coup
> against the hindu king
>
> Lesson5
> Dont show any false mercy to the muslims
> *In 1191 Prithvi Raj the ruler of Delhi let go alive the muslim invader
> Ghori. In 1192, Ghori came back and killed Prithvi raj
> *In 1755, the marathas let Najibullah go alive. Najibullah returned in
> 1761 with Ahmed Shah Abdali to defeat the marathas.
> *In 1971, Indira Gandhi let pakistan off the hook easily, now pakistan
> has grown into a monster
>
> Lesson6
> Those who collaborate with muslims will be killed once they outlive
> their usefulness to the muslims
> *In 1194, Ghori killed JaiChand a hindu king who had collaborated with
> Ghori in Invading India
> *In 1948, Hindu communists who had supported the pakistan demand
> were thrown out of pakistan.
>
>
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> Before you buy.
DHill
brethren at risk to Islam but so are my Christian Brethren and let us not
forget the Hindus! Those idiotic 'professors' in our Liberal universities
pontificating how peaceful and noble islam really is but you can bet your
bottom dollar, nary a one dares to take up any residence in these so calle
islamic paradises!
We must wash away this politically correct rubbish and start by exposing
islam not so much as some sort of perverse religion but as a rank ideology
with more in common with Marxist Leninism or Nazism!!
I Love the Muslim, but I hate their belief system!!!
Thanks from Devon in Canada.
"irgun43" <irg...@slip.net> wrote in message
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Hugh Ekeberg
Hamas so much?
Red Herring
wrote:
>Irgun, isn't that the name of the Jewish terrorist group that has inspired
>Hamas so much?
Hamas is an offshoot of the Moslem Brotherhood headquartered in Egypt, which
is not surprising considering how many so-called "Palestinians", including
Cairo-born Arafat himself, are Egyptian immigrants.
Roy Jose Lorr
DHill wrote:
> Irgun you have spoken absolutely correct here!! Not only our your Jewish
> brethren at risk to Islam but so are my Christian Brethren and let us not
> forget the Hindus! Those idiotic 'professors' in our Liberal universities
> pontificating how peaceful and noble islam really is but you can bet your
> bottom dollar, nary a one dares to take up any residence in these so calle
> islamic paradises!
> We must wash away this politically correct rubbish and start by exposing
> islam not so much as some sort of perverse religion but as a rank ideology
> with more in common with Marxist Leninism or Nazism!!
>
> I Love the Muslim, but I hate their belief system!!!
People are their belief system. Goes with the territory of being human.
>
>
> Thanks from Devon in Canada.
Roy Jose Lorr
Hugh Ekeberg wrote:
> Irgun, isn't that the name of the Jewish terrorist group that has inspired
> Hamas so much?
The koran is all the inspiration hamas needed.
islamisgr...@my-deja.com
(Dr. Mellema is the director of the section concerned with Islamic
Works of Art of the Tropical Museum in Amsterdam. He is known for his
works 'Babies of Wyang', 'Information About Pakistan' and 'Introducing
Islam'.)
In 1919, I began to study oriental languages in the University of
Leiden. My teacher was the universally known professor Hurgronje, who
had perfect command of the Arabic language. As he taught me how to
read, write and translate in Arabic, he gave me the Qur'an al-karim and
the works of al-Ghazali as textbooks. The subject I was majoring in was
the 'Islamic law'. I read a number of books about Islam, Islam's
history, and Islamic sciences so far published in the European
languages. In 1921 I went to Egypt and visited the Al-Azhar Madrasa. I
stayed there for about one month. Later, in addition to Arabic, I
learned Sanskrit and Malay. In 1927 I went to Indonesia, which was a
British dependency at that time. I began to learn Javanese in a high
school in Jakarta. For fifteen years I educated myself not only in the
language of Java, but also in the cultural history of old and new Java.
Throughout that period of time, I on the one hand contacted the Muslims
and on the other hand read the Arabic books available to me. The
Japanese invaded the Indonesian islands during the Second World War. I
was one of the prisoners that they captured. After an extremely severe
life in captivity which lasted until the end of the war, I returned to
Holland and found a job in the Tropical Museum in Amsterdam. There I
resumed my Islamic research. They asked me to write a booklet telling
about the Muslims in Java. This, also, I accepted, and completed, too.
Between 1954 and 1955 I was sent to Pakistan to conduct a study about
the Muslims there. As I have already stated, the only books that I had
read about Islam until that time had been written in the European
languages. After I went to Pakistan and established direct contact with
Muslims, my views of Islam took a sharp turn for the favourable. I
requested my Muslim brothers in Lahore to take me to their mosque. They
were pleased at my request and took me there for a Friday prayer. I
watched the worship and listened to the prayers with great attention.
It had so strong an impact on me that I almost lost consciousness in
rapture. I now felt myself a Muslim and a Muslim brother when I shook
hands with Muslims. I expressed my feelings as follows in the fourth
issue of 'Pakistan Quarterly':
"Next we went to a smaller mosque. A preaching lecture was scheduled to
be delivered by a scholar who was a professor from Penjab University
and who knew English well. As he began his preaching, he said to the
audience, 'We have a guest, a Muslim brother, who has come here from a
distant country, Holland. I shall mostly add English words into the
Urdu language so that he will understand me better,' and then he
performed an exquisite preaching. I listened with attention. After the
preaching was over, I meant to leave the mosque, when Allama Sahib, who
had brought me to the mosque, said that the Muslim brothers who had
been watching me with attention would be pleased if I should be kind
enough to give them a speech, a brief one in the least, and that he
would translate my speech into the Urdu language. Upon this I made the
following short speech: 'I am here from Holland, which is quite a long
way from here. There are very few Muslims in my homeland. Those few
Muslims requested me to extend their salam [Islamic word for greeting,
well-wishing and offering best wishes.] to you. I am very happy to know
that you have achieved your independence and to see that the world has
been enriched with one more Muslim state. Established seven years ago,
Pakistan has already secured its position. After all those difficulties
you experienced in the beginning, your country has in the long last
attained salvation and is now improving with speed. There is a bright
future ahead of Pakistan. When I go back home, I will have so much to
tell my compatriots about your kind and polite behaviour, about your
magnanimous generosity, and about your warm hospitality, of which I
shall spare no minute details. I shall never forget the warm affection
you have displayed towards me.' No sooner had Allama Sahib finished
translating my statements into Urdu than all the Muslims in the mosque
rushed towards me and began to shake hands with me, and the whole place
resounded with a mellow roar of congratulatory exclamations, which has
preserved its unique moment of happiness in my memories. The heartfelt
manifestation of brotherhood moved me so profoundly that I began to
enjoy the happiness of entirely having joined the community of Muslim
brothers."
The Pakistani Muslim brothers showed me that Islam is not merely a
collection of theories and proved that Islam means beautiful moral
quality first of all and therefore being a good Muslim requires
possessing a pure moral character.
Now let me answer the second question, i.e. your question, "What was
the strongest attraction that pulled you towards Islam?"
The reasons that attracted me towards embracing Islam and attached my
entire heart to the Islamic religion are as follows:
1) A Unitarian belief in Allahu ta'ala. Islam recognizes one great
creator. This great creator is not begotten, nor does he beget. What
could be as logical and as rational as believing in one creator? Even
the simplest-minded person would find it right and will believe in it.
This single great creator, whose name is Allah, is in possession of the
greatest knowledge, the greatest hikma, the greatest power, and the
greatest beauty. He has infinite mercy and compassion.
2) Rejecting any intermediary between Allahu ta'ala and the born slave.
In Islam the born slave comes into direct contact with his Creator and
worships Him directly. No one is necessary between Allahu ta'ala and
the born slave. People learn their duties pertaining to this world and
the next from the Book of Allahu ta'ala, the Qur'an al-karim, from
hadith ash-Sharifs, and from books written by the scholars of Ahl as-
sunnat. Only to Allahu ta'ala are they responsible for their actions.
Allahu ta'ala, alone, has the authority to reward or punish a person.
Allahu ta'ala will not hold any of His born slaves responsible for what
he has not done, nor will He enjoin on him something beyond his
capacity.
3) The infinite mercy innate in Islam. Its most explicit indication is
an ayat in the Qur'an al-karim, which purports, "No one shall be
compelled to become a Muslim." Our Prophet, Muhammad a.s., commands
that a Muslim should acquire knowledge, by going to the farthest places
if necessary. One other precept that Muslims are commanded to observe
is to be respectful of the religions previous to Islam, especially as
regards their essentials that have remained unchanged.
4) A fraternal unification of Muslims, whereby discriminations due to
race, nationality and colour are crossed out from the outset. This
ultimate goal has been realized only by Islam in the entire world.
During the periods of Hajj (Muslims' pilgrimage to Mecca), hundreds of
thousands of Muslims from all corners of the world come together, wrap
themselves in the uniform (clothing called) Ihram, and prostrate
themselves, a colossal expression of all Muslims' fraternity.
5) The equilibrium that Islam maintains between corporeal and spiritual
realities. The other religions emphasize only spirituality and a number
of absurd, grotesque tenets. On the other hand, Islam gives equal
considerations to the soul and the body and dictates to man how he
should maintain cleanliness, not only spiritually, but also bodily. It
integrates man's spiritual improvement with his corporeal needs and
describes in an extremely illustrative language how he should live in
full control of his physical activities.
6) Islam's prohibition of alcohol, drugs, and pork. In my opinion, the
gravest calamities that have befallen mankind has been on account of
alcohol and drugs. Prohibition of such indulgences would suffice as an
illustration of Islam's enormous prescience and the gigantic distance
whereby it is ahead of its time.
DHill
"Roy Jose Lorr" <moses...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> DHill wrote:
>
> > Irgun you have spoken absolutely correct here!! Not only our your Jewish
> > brethren at risk to Islam but so are my Christian Brethren and let us
not
> > forget the Hindus! Those idiotic 'professors' in our Liberal
universities
> > pontificating how peaceful and noble islam really is but you can bet
your
> > bottom dollar, nary a one dares to take up any residence in these so
calle
> > islamic paradises!
> > We must wash away this politically correct rubbish and start by exposing
> > islam not so much as some sort of perverse religion but as a rank
ideology
> > with more in common with Marxist Leninism or Nazism!!
> >
> > I Love the Muslim, but I hate their belief system!!!
>
> People are their belief system. Goes with the territory of being human.
>
That is why I have no problem befriending a Muslim or Atheist while at the
same time loathing their beliefs on these issues!! I only grew up with one
or the other!
David Starr
Dave
--
Islam is a gutter religion based on dumbass arab culture.
Its founder Mohammed was a low life son of a bitch and a
mad lunatic.
I piss on Mohammed (pig shit be upon him), Allah (pig shit
be upon him) and Quran (dumbass arabic crap) everyday.
ISLAM stands for the following:
[I] = Incest
[S] = Sodomy
[L] = Looting
[A] = Asslifting
[M] = Murder
Mo
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nanafa...@my-deja.com
"DHill" <dsb...@home.com> wrote:
> Irgun you have spoken absolutely correct here!! Not only our your
Jewish
> brethren at risk to Islam but so are my Christian Brethren and let us
not
> forget the Hindus! Those idiotic 'professors' in our Liberal
universities
> pontificating how peaceful and noble islam really is but you can bet
your
> bottom dollar, nary a one dares to take up any residence in these so
calle
> islamic paradises!
> We must wash away this politically correct rubbish and start by
exposing
> islam not so much as some sort of perverse religion but as a rank
ideology
> with more in common with Marxist Leninism or Nazism!!
Similarities between islam and nazism
Nazis had the nordic upper class
slavic underclass
and jews to be exterminated
Muslims have the Muslim upper class
Dhimmi ( jew and Xtian ) under class
and pagans to be exterminated
Similarities between islam and communism
Communism + allah = islam
USSR = Saudi
Red China = Iran
Polpot = Taliban
Das Kapital = Koran
revolution = Jihad
Comintern = Ummah
Communist party of Canada = Muslim Canadian
both muslims and commies want democracy and freedoms while in minority
but refuse to reciprocate. Both commies and muslims are traitors
and have extra-territorial loyalty.
Both commies and muslims make use of the stupid liberals.
Islam is an evil empire just like communism.
But islam masks itself in the guise of a religion and also uses rapid
breeding to sieze power, along with illegal immigration
>
> I Love the Muslim, but I hate their belief system!!!
>
> Thanks from Devon in Canada.
bmadani
nanafa...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Similarities between islam and nazism
> Nazis had the nordic upper class
> slavic underclass
> and jews to be exterminated
>
> Muslims have the Muslim upper class
> Dhimmi ( jew and Xtian ) under class
> and pagans to be exterminated
>
> Similarities between islam and communism
> Communism + allah = islam
> USSR = Saudi
> Red China = Iran
> Polpot = Taliban
> Das Kapital = Koran
> revolution = Jihad
> Comintern = Ummah
> Communist party of Canada = Muslim Canadian
> both muslims and commies want democracy and freedoms while in minority
> but refuse to reciprocate. Both commies and muslims are traitors
> and have extra-territorial loyalty.
> Both commies and muslims make use of the stupid liberals.
> Islam is an evil empire just like communism.
> But islam masks itself in the guise of a religion and also uses rapid
> breeding to sieze power, along with illegal immigration
Calm down and think a bit, and maybe you'll see the absurdities you've
just written.
Adam Littman
>3) The infinite mercy innate in Islam. Its most explicit indication is
Which is incredibly ironic considering what merciless genocidal terrorists the
Muslims produce.
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