JEWISH "ART"
serwad
by the rise in the sixth century of Islam with precisely the same
prohibition. There was, however, this difference between the two races: the
Arabs managed to produce a splendid civilisation and culture in a large area
of the known world and which, during a flowering in Spain, even managed to
accommodate the Jew. The achievements of this Moslem culture may still be
witnessed in Grenada today. One is reminded of the lament of the Spanish
poet, Lorca, when he observed, much to the annoyance of the Franco regime,
that the fall of Grenada in 1492 was a disaster.
There was never a comparable or even noticeable flowering of Jewish art and
literature, let alone a sound Jewish administrative structure that could
give economic prosperity and political security to its mixed inhabitants
over a period of centuries. Any such basic inspiration and the conception of
peace and tranquillity does not seem throughout history ever to have existed
in the turbulent Jewish mind. Today the failure of a propped-up Israel only
confirms this. So it is seen that over the centuries the outcast Jew is left
to specialise in usury and to act as a go-between in trade to Moslems and
Christians.
Nevertheless, not all outlets for artistic expression were denied to Jews.
Before the 10th century little remains even of minor interest to command the
attention of the art historian - the crudely painted wall of a synagogue in
Iraq, a glass bottle, a clay or bronze lamp, an amulet and some coins.
During the Middle Ages and largely due to ghetto conditions, it was only the
synagogue that unimpressively displayed a distinct racial origin. Sometimes
the foundations were sunk extra deep into the ground to give internal
height, since the height of the exterior of the synagogue was strictly
regulated to remind the Jews they were not entitled to special privilege and
were under necessary control.
But it was the ritual synagogue objects that could fulfil creative ambition.
Often these objects were associated with Torah scrolls and they were heavily
proportioned and grossly over-decorated, sharing that squat, almost
menacing, quality apparent in some Jewish buildings. The cases, finials,
crowns and torah breastplates were sumptuously elaborate and lacked any
purity of line. Today one can find this typical Jewish taste for excess
carried even further in the plush flats of Golders Green where shine and
glitter proclaim the ultimate in vulgar emancipation.
Before the 18th century, artisans, craftsmen, architects and painters were
in the lower echelons of society and inevitably Jewish craftsmen gained a
monopoly of the jewellers' trade as well as that of the goldsmith and metal
worker. In the Yemen, for example, all metal and silverwork was in the hands
of the Jews and it was much the same in North Africa. In the Middle Ages and
during the Renaissance the minor arts of bookbinding and manuscript
illumination were also captured by the Jews and elaborate Jewish book
illumination reached a climax in Italy, greatly influenced as it was by
Italian art.
The real poverty of typical Jewish art, in fields wider than the narrow
inward-looking minor arts connected with the book, is most apparent in the
great art of painting, with its many distinct national schools and where it
is always possible for a genius to emerge - a Leonardo, a Velasquez or a
Watteau - to proclaim his kinship, however remote, with the Creator. Before
the end of the 18th century literally nothing worth mentioning in painting
appeared from a Jewish hand - that is unless one includes the dubious case
in England of Johann Zoffany or, in Italy, that of Anton Raphael Mengs, who
was possibly of mixed birth and was a Christian. There were, however, in
that century quite a number of third-rate Jewish artists who for commercial
reasons felt capable of extending their work in the minor arts to that of
portraiture, particularly in Germany following a general easing of the human
likeness prohibition.
BernardZ
ser...@bellsouth.net says...
> Later, not to be outdone on zeal, Jewish iconoclasm was actually reinforced
> by the rise in the sixth century of Islam with precisely the same
> prohibition. There was, however, this difference between the two races: the
> Arabs managed to produce a splendid civilisation and culture in a large area
> of the known world and which, during a flowering in Spain, even managed to
> accommodate the Jew. The achievements of this Moslem culture may still be
> witnessed in Grenada today. One is reminded of the lament of the Spanish
> poet, Lorca, when he observed, much to the annoyance of the Franco regime,
> that the fall of Grenada in 1492 was a disaster.
>
> There was never a comparable or even noticeable flowering of Jewish art and
> literature, let alone a sound Jewish administrative structure that could
> give economic prosperity
It was the first Muslim nation to be almost completely Muslim. Those
Christians who did not convert to Islam had been deported or escaped to
Christian countries in North Africa. The only religious minority was a
small Jewish community. I cannot think of any great Jewish art or
literature coming out of the place, can anyone else?
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serwad
"BernardZ" <DontB...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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You have obviously never seen El Hambra you stupid uneducated arsehole.
Christian Protestanism was born in muslim Spain arsehole! mehmet pasha
Sokolovich of Ottomans built dozen Christian churches for his brother, who
hapened to be a Christian bishop in Bosnia. What a stupid uneducated moron
you are Bernard!
BernardZ
ser...@bellsouth.net says...
Idiot! El Hambra is not great work of *Jewish* art?
> Christian Protestanism was born in muslim Spain arsehole!
Now that is a rather interesting theory. Any evidence to prove it?
> mehmet pasha
> Sokolovich of Ottomans built dozen Christian churches for his brother, who
> hapened to be a Christian bishop in Bosnia. What a stupid uneducated moron
> you are Bernard!
Its a shame that so many Muslims today spit on his example and no longer
follow his teachings?
Here is what some real Muslims state
http://www.secularislam.org/#Statement
Statement of Principles
1.
We share the ideals of a democratic society, and a secular state
that does not endorse any religion, religious institution, or any
religious dogma. The basis for its authority is in man-made law, not in
religious doctrine or in divine revelation. In a theocracy of the type
that Islamic fundamentalists wish to establish, sovereignty belongs to
god, but in a democracy sovereignty belongs to the people. We therefore
favor the firm separation of religion and state: without such a
separation there can be no freedom from tyranny, and such a separation
is the sine qua non for a secular state.
2.
We believe in the primacy of the rule of law: a common civil code
under which all men and women have equal protection of their rights and
freedoms.
3.
We endorse the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the
International Covenants on Human Rights without qualification. We are
particularly concerned to promote and protect the rights of women and
those with minority beliefs: all should be equal before the law.
4.
We are dedicated to combating fanaticism, intolerance, violent
fundamentalism, and terrorism by showing the intellectual inadequacy of
the fanatics=3F programmes, the historical inaccuracy of their claims, the
philosophical poverty of their arguments, and the totalitarian nature of
their thought.
5.
We defend the right of free inquiry, and the free expression of
ideas. We therefore reserve the right to examine the historical
foundations of Islam, and to explain the rise and fall of Islam by the
normal mechanisms of human history.
serwad
"BernardZ" <DontB...@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
OF COURSE NOT, NOR DID I SAY THAT IT WAS!
>
>> Christian Protestanism was born in muslim Spain arsehole!
>
> Now that is a rather interesting theory. Any evidence to prove it?
FACT NOT A THEORY STUPID
>
>> mehmet pasha
>> Sokolovich of Ottomans built dozen Christian churches for his brother,
>> who
>> hapened to be a Christian bishop in Bosnia. What a stupid uneducated
>> moron
>> you are Bernard!
>
> Its a shame that so many Muslims today spit on his example and no longer
> follow his teachings?
MEHMET IS ADORED BY MUSLIMS OF THE BALKANS
>
> Here is what some real Muslims state
> http://www.secularislam.org/#Statement
IT IS A FREE COUNTRY, THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT!
>
> Statement of Principles
>
> 1.
>
> We share the ideals of a democratic society, and a secular state
> that does not endorse any religion, religious institution, or any
> religious dogma.
TELL THAT TO THE FUCKING JEWS WHO SLAUGHTERED RACHEL CORRIE!
The basis for its authority is in man-made law, not in
> religious doctrine or in divine revelation. In a theocracy of the type
> that Islamic fundamentalists wish to establish, sovereignty belongs to
> god, but in a democracy sovereignty belongs to the people. We therefore
> favor the firm separation of religion and state: without such a
> separation there can be no freedom from tyranny, and such a separation
> is the sine qua non for a secular state.
FINE
> 2.
>
> We believe in the primacy of the rule of law: a common civil code
> under which all men and women have equal protection of their rights and
> freedoms.
SO DO I
> 3.
>
> We endorse the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the
> International Covenants on Human Rights without qualification. We are
> particularly concerned to promote and protect the rights of women and
> those with minority beliefs: all should be equal before the law.
ALL MUSLIMS ACCEPT THOSE PRINCIPLES
> 4.
>
> We are dedicated to combating fanaticism, intolerance, violent
> fundamentalism, and terrorism by showing the intellectual inadequacy of
> the fanatics=3F programmes, the historical inaccuracy of their claims, the
> philosophical poverty of their arguments, and the totalitarian nature of
> their thought.
HOW ABOUT STARTING WITH ZIONISM?
> 5.
>
> We defend the right of free inquiry, and the free expression of
> ideas. We therefore reserve the right to examine the historical
> foundations of Islam, and to explain the rise and fall of Islam by the
> normal mechanisms of human history.
YOU ARE GETTING YOU NECK INTO A NOOSE, IF YOU MENTION THE HOLLOCAUST!
AnonMoos
validity the remarks on the effects of non-representationalism which
you cut-and-pasted have with resepect to Jewish art, they apply with
triple force to Arab-Muslim art -- and in the meanwhile, Marc Chagall
has more talent in his left little finger than you have in your entire
body!
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من الإرهابي
المنتحر
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Boed...@isp.com
AnonMoos wrote:
> StriderCabal, your remarks are truly pathetic, since whatever limited
> validity the remarks on the effects of non-representationalism which
> you cut-and-pasted have with resepect to Jewish art, they apply with
> triple force to Arab-Muslim art -- and in the meanwhile, Marc Chagall
> has more talent in his left little finger than you have in your entire
> body!
I must disagree with that. He painted the windows of The Hadassah
Hospital, near
Jerusaslem. They are stained glass and each windown supposedly
represents one
of the 12 Tribes of Israel. There is no way one can tell by looking
at each window
what tribe it is supposed to be. The Tribe of Dan e.g. has the
likeness of a bird,
a candleabra, the heads of 3 something or another and a snake.
Actually, the snake I can understand because "Dan shall be a serpents
tail......." - Jacob
He meant that like a serpent, which leaves a trail in the sand, Dan
would leave
a trail whereever he went and he did, naming towns and cities after
his tribe - Danmark
e.g. I looked carefully at the others and still can't find how
Chagall viewed
Reuben etc. He was a typical example of that awful modern art that
jews
appear to be so fond of.
vkar...@yahoo.com
BernardZ wrote:
> In article <9lW5g.9496$QU3....@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
> ser...@bellsouth.net says...
> > Later, not to be outdone on zeal, Jewish iconoclasm was actually reinforced
> > by the rise in the sixth century of Islam with precisely the same
> > prohibition. There was, however, this difference between the two races: the
> > Arabs managed to produce a splendid civilisation and culture in a large area
> > of the known world and which, during a flowering in Spain, even managed to
> > accommodate the Jew. The achievements of this Moslem culture may still be
> > witnessed in Grenada today. One is reminded of the lament of the Spanish
> > poet, Lorca, when he observed, much to the annoyance of the Franco regime,
> > that the fall of Grenada in 1492 was a disaster.
> >
> > There was never a comparable or even noticeable flowering of Jewish art and
> > literature, let alone a sound Jewish administrative structure that could
> > give economic prosperity
>
Weren't Jews too small a group to occupy any large lands or to
establish "administrative structures" over large territories? It would
be like a mosquito trying to rule over a crocodile...
>
> It was the first Muslim nation to be almost completely Muslim. Those
> Christians who did not convert to Islam had been deported or escaped to
> Christian countries in North Africa. The only religious minority was a
> small Jewish community. I cannot think of any great Jewish art or
> literature coming out of the place, can anyone else?
>
Weren't most doctors, scientists, thinkers etc in the Arab Spain
Jewish? Cetainly after the Christians took over Spain, the intellectual
elite were mostly Jewish, so much so that Ferdinand and Isabella had
to expel them in 1492, if I am not mistaken.
vkar...@yahoo.com
And then they force great danes to draw awful cartoons at gunpoint...
Just to provoke hundreds of millions of crazy camels.
That was an example of abstract modern art... No likeliness is
intended.
Sokhraneet Nash Mir
<vkar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"great danes" ...is that one of those oxymorons?
> That was an example of abstract modern art... No likeliness is
> intended.
>
Abstract art is where the artist never makes a mistake.
vkar...@yahoo.com
No. "Oxy" is short for Occidental Petroleum Corporation (www.oxy.com)
And "moron" is another word for "Brookiski".
>
> > That was an example of abstract modern art... No likeliness is
> > intended.
> >
>
> Abstract art is where the artist never makes a mistake.
>
Instead, it's the buyer who makes the mistake...
Islam will replace the brains of Arabs.
vkar...@yahoo.com
Islam will replace the brains of Arabs. wrote:
> I've never seen a JEWISH "FART"
>
Then just look in the mirror. A typical "Jewish fart" would be just
like what you'll see in it, only much younger.