I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions? I'm not looking especially for ancient kingdom stuff, although if you have something really spectacular, let me know anyway; otherwise, it's the modern country I'm interested in. Please, so other people don't get mad at me, answer by e-mail in- stead of posting; the crossposts are going to get too weird otherwise. My e-mail address is: r...@quads.uchicago.edu. I don't think it's the same one as the 'r' command will give you; be forewarned.
>I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set >in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions?
Are works in translation acceptable? If so, there's one really safe bet, with long-term staying power, good narrative flow, and a really interesting cast of characters. First-class writing throughout. Starts strong, too: "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..."
In article <1991Oct21.205825.7...@watdragon.waterloo.edu> tb...@watsol.waterloo.edu (Tim Bray) writes: >r...@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes: >>I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set >>in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions?
> Are works in translation acceptable? If so, there's one really safe bet, > with long-term staying power, good narrative flow, and a really interesting > cast of characters. First-class writing throughout. Starts strong, too: > "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..."
Which translation?
I found that the two sections went together poorly. I enjoyed the first section more, despite the apparent lack of plot, since the activities of one obscure rabble-rouser was not, to me, as interesting as an account of the real movers & shakers in Roman-occupied Judea would have been. That's not a valid complaint, I know (That an author chose not to write a book).
I couldn't find fault with the Romans. 'Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's' sounds like a typical leftist call for violence.
Is this one of the first 'shared world' anthologies? When is the third section due? Revelations was pretty clearly an excuse for a sequel, even if it did claim there wouldn't be one.
On the whole, I prefer the version without the later book pasted on.
> In article <1991Oct21.205825.7...@watdragon.waterloo.edu> tb...@watsol.waterloo.edu (Tim Bray) writes: > >r...@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes: > >>I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set > >>in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions?
> > Are works in translation acceptable? If so, there's one really safe bet, > > with long-term staying power, good narrative flow, and a really interesting > > cast of characters. First-class writing throughout. Starts strong, too: > > "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..."
> Which translation?
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> On the whole, I prefer the version without the later > book pasted on.
Yeah, I'm usually that way about sequels, too.
Seriously, though. Here are some selections:
"Mila 18" Leon Uris "Exodus" Leon Uris "The Source" James A. Michener "Cast A Giant Shadow" Edna Ferber (?) "Rambo IV" (couldn't resist :->)
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In article <1991Oct21.205825.7...@watdragon.waterloo.edu> tb...@watsol.waterloo.edu (Tim Bray) writes: >r...@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes: >>I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set >>in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions?
> Are works in translation acceptable? If so, there's one really safe bet, > with long-term staying power, good narrative flow, and a really interesting > cast of characters. First-class writing throughout. Starts strong, too: > "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..."
> Cheers, Tim Bray, Open Text Systems
Nice suggestion, but Nora was looking for fiction, and what you're suggesting is definitely non-fiction.
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In article <JMC.91Oct21161...@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> j...@cs.Stanford.EDU writes: >Amos Oz is about the most famous present Israeli writer. >Try _A Perfect Peace_. >--
Also A.B.Yehoshua, a brilliant Isreali writer with shades of Faulkner.
In article <1991Oct21.205825.7...@watdragon.waterloo.edu> tb...@watsol.waterloo.edu (Tim Bray) writes: >r...@ellis.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes: >>I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set >>in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions?
> Are works in translation acceptable? If so, there's one really safe bet, > with long-term staying power, good narrative flow, and a really interesting > cast of characters. First-class writing throughout. Starts strong, too: > "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..."
> Cheers, Tim Bray, Open Text Systems
I said I preferred things set in the modern state. And if you don't get flamed for calling it fiction, I'll be rather surprised. But a nice comment.
In article <11...@pogo.WV.TEK.COM> willi...@pogo.WV.TEK.COM (William Smith) writes: >nora gayle rivkis writes: > >I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set
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> >in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions? >Would Leon Uris' "Exodus" be too obvious?
Given the criterion of "good", _Exodus_ would be obviously ... wrong. I'm still not sure, after all these years, what it takes to make a good historical novel, but I know Leon Uris hasn't got it.
Also: This may sound odd, as I have loudly disparaged Michener in the past, but you might try _The Source_. Of course, it's a good 25 years out of date.
-- "Life is short; mess about." -- Witold Rybczynski
->> >I'm looking for good, English-language fiction that's set -> ^^^^ ->> >in Israel or on Israeli themes. Any suggestions? -> ->>Would Leon Uris' "Exodus" be too obvious? -> ->Given the criterion of "good", _Exodus_ would be obviously ... wrong. ->I'm still not sure, after all these years, what it takes to make a good ->historical novel, but I know Leon Uris hasn't got it. -> ->Also: This may sound odd, as I have loudly disparaged Michener in the past, ->but you might try _The Source_. Of course, it's a good 25 years out of ->date. -> -> ->-- -> "Life is short; mess about." -- Witold Rybczynski -> -> ...!cs.utexas.edu!ccwf!jzimm
As a child, I found "Exodus" very exciting, and "The Source" rather boring. As an adult, I might change my mind if I reread them, and I am of course ignoring any historical accuracy of the plots.
Then again, I liked "Azeet, the Paratrooper Dog" when I was a kid also, so you might want to ignore me.
Brian Sutin su...@helios.ucsc.edu Lick Observatory, UCSC Santa Cruz, CA 95064
In article <60...@ut-emx.uucp>, jz...@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Joann Zimmerman) writes:
I 'll add a few: "The Book of Abraham" Marek Halter "The Children of Abraham" Marek Halter (sequel) "Oh, Jerusalem" Collins and LaPierre "The Menorah Men" Currently Forgotten
There are also, in English, some really nice biographies of Eliezer Ben-Yehuda, Sarah AAronson (NILI) that border on fiction as to their detail and probable accuracy.
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