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HHW

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Jun 15, 2013, 7:50:14 PM6/15/13
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An Outbreak of Reasonableness in Tehran: Top Ten Conclusions from
Iran’s Early Election Returns

Posted on 06/15/2013 by Juan Cole
Update: Centrist Hassan Rouhani is Iran’s new president, having won a
massive victory in a field of 6 candidates. 13:19 ET, 6/15/13

Early election returns in Iran suggest that former National Security
adviser and nuclear negotiator Hassan Rouhani may have won over 50% of
the vote, in which case he will have won without needing to go to a
second round. Too early to tell if that is so. While it is true that
the president in Iran is more like the typical US vice president and
is relatively powerless, he can nevertheless set a tone and initiate
policies slightly different from those of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.
Iran is not yet a totalitarian dictatorship, and Khamenei himself has
sometimes been forced to tack with the wind. Any change will be slow
and at the margins, but it could nevertheless be significant in a very
polarized world.

1. People are still willing to come out and vote for president in
impressive numbers, despite the widespread feeling that the 2009 polls
were tinkered with by the regime in favor of populist hard liner
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Even if the 75% turnout claimed by the Iranian
press is exaggerated, turnout was impressive.

2. The poor showing of nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili is a slap in
the face both of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and of outgoing
president Ahmadinejad. The most hard line of the candidates got only
13% of the vote in early returns.

3. Those who believed that Khamenei would try to fix this election for
Jalili as he is accused by the Green movement of doing four years ago
were mistaken. Either the Leader feels that he has sufficient control
of the country to risk a mildly reformist candidate like Hasan Rouhani
winning, or the turmoil the country faced in 2009 chastened him and he
decided to let the public blow off steam by giving him a president he
isn’t entirely happy with.

4. The US economic blockade of Iran has produced a great deal of
dissatisfaction with the status quo, and status quo candidates did
poorly as a result. Ahmadinejad’s easy money policies have run
inflation up to 30%, and imported goods have become expensive as US
sanctions badly hit the valueof the riyal.

5. The hawks in Washington will miss the quirky Ahmadinejad, who often
said things that seemed buffoonish or menacing or both at once. The
new president will present a much better image of Iran, which will
reduce the country’s vulnerability to international hostility.

6. Hassan Rouhani, the hands-down winner as I write, promised more
effective diplomacy with the West, and the Iranian public seems to
have liked that message more than the obstreperousness of Jalili.
Rouhani said, in al-Sharq al-Awsat:

“The Iran–US relationship is a complex and difficult issue. A bitter
history, filled with mistrust and animosity, marks this relationship.
It has become a chronic wound whose healing is difficult but possible,
provided that good faith and mutual respect prevail. . . . As a
moderate, I have a phased plan to deescalate hostility to a manageable
state of tension and then engage in promotion of interactions and
dialogue between the two peoples to achieve détente, and finally reach
to the point of mutual respect that both peoples deserve.”

7. Rouhani has pledged more transparency about what he says is Iran’s
peaceful nuclear enrichment program, aimed at producing fuel for
nuclear reactors to generate electricity. He told al-Sharq al-Awsat:

” Iran has an exclusively peaceful nuclear program, which under
international law is lawful and indisputable. A politically motivated
campaign of misinformation has persistently attempted to cast doubts
on the exclusively peaceful nature of this program. This campaign is
being fueled and directed first and foremost by Israel, in order to
divert international attention not only from its own clandestine and
dangerous nuclear weapons program, but also from its destabilizing and
inhuman policies and practices in Palestine and the Middle East.
Regrettably, the Security Council has discredited itself by allowing
the United States to impose this counter-productive Israeli agenda. If
elected, I will reverse this trend by restoring international
confidence . . . Nuclear weapons have no role in Iran’s national
security doctrine, and therefore Iran has nothing to conceal. But in
order to move towards the resolution of Iran’s nuclear dossier, we
need to build both domestic consensus and global convergence and
understanding through dialogue.”

8. Rouhani says he wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hold open
presidential elections in 2014. This stance is not the same as asking
al-Assad to step down, but it obviously opens the door to al-Assad’s
removal, since he could not possibly win such an election. The
statement seems to me to imply that Rouhani could live with a post-
Assad Syria. (But note that Rouhani, even if he becomes president,
would not be in a position to pursue this question, since Khamenei is
in charge of Syria policy and the Baath Party is not going to hold
pluralist free elections.)

9. Rouhani wants to tamp down the Middle East Cold War between Iran
and Saudi Arabia: “On your question regarding Saudi Arabia, I plan to
reverse the recently exacerbated [and] unfortunate rivalry between the
two countries into mutual respect and mutually beneficial arrangements
and cooperation to enhance security and restore stability in the
region.” He continues, however, to support Shiite majority rights in
Bahrain, a point of contention between Shiite Iran and the Sunni
countries of the Gulf.

10. Rouhani will attempt to heal the severe rift between Green
Movement liberals and Khomeinist hard liners by getting Mirhossein
Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, leaders of the 2009 protest movement,
released from house arrest. He said,
“I was Iran’s national Security Advisor for sixteen years during the
administrations of Rafsanjani and Khatami. Therefore, I know how to
deal with sensitive issues. If elected, I will do my best to secure
the release of those who have been incarcerated following the
regrettable events of 2009. I know that the constitutional powers of
the president in Iran do not extend to the areas outside the realm of
the executive branch of the system. However, I am quite optimistic
that I can muster the necessary domestic consensus to improve the
present situation of Mr. Mousavi and Mr. Karrubi.

Truth and honesty

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:30:51 AM6/16/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:50:14 -0700 (PDT), HHW wrote:

> Rouhani says he wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hold open
> presidential elections in 2014. This stance is not the same as asking
> al-Assad to step down, but it obviously opens the door to al-Assad’s
> removal, since he could not possibly win such an election. The
> statement seems to me to imply that Rouhani could live with a post-
> Assad Syria. (But note that Rouhani, even if he becomes president,
> would not be in a position to pursue this question, since Khamenei is
> in charge of Syria policy and the Baath Party is not going to hold
> pluralist free elections.)

I bet you are happy about that as it means that Assad can remain in Syria
as the leader.


--
Honesty. Decency. Integrity

www.youtube.com/watch?v=33An6HotyuI

Nov 20, 2012
Hamas execution of 6 men, dragged in the streets of Gaza

dsharavi

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:57:13 AM6/16/13
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On Jun 15, 9:30 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:50:14 -0700 (PDT), HHW wrote:
> > Rouhani says he wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hold open
> > presidential elections in 2014. This stance is not the same as asking
> > al-Assad to step down, but it obviously opens the door to al-Assad¢s
> > removal, since he could not possibly win such an election. The
> > statement seems to me to imply that Rouhani could live with a post-
> > Assad Syria. (But note that Rouhani, even if he becomes president,
> > would not be in a position to pursue this question, since Khamenei is
> > in charge of Syria policy and the Baath Party is not going to hold
> > pluralist free elections.)
>
> I bet you are happy about that as it means that Assad can remain in Syria
> as the leader.

Of course Hunter is deliriously happy. He will have to sober up,
though, to realise how happy he is.

Truth and honesty

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Jun 16, 2013, 7:36:23 AM6/16/13
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One man, one vote and in Iran the man with the one vote in this
presidential elections was the unelected Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

The Peeler

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Jun 16, 2013, 8:32:20 AM6/16/13
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:36:23 +1000, Truth and honesty
<Tr...@honest.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:57:13 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi wrote:
>
>> On Jun 15, 9:30 pm, Truth and honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:50:14 -0700 (PDT), HHW wrote:
>>>> Rouhani says he wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to hold open
>>>> presidential elections in 2014. This stance is not the same as asking
>>>> al-Assad to step down, but it obviously opens the door to al-Assad¢s
>>>> removal, since he could not possibly win such an election. The
>>>> statement seems to me to imply that Rouhani could live with a post-
>>>> Assad Syria. (But note that Rouhani, even if he becomes president,
>>>> would not be in a position to pursue this question, since Khamenei is
>>>> in charge of Syria policy and the Baath Party is not going to hold
>>>> pluralist free elections.)
>>>
>>> I bet you are happy about that as it means that Assad can remain in Syria
>>> as the leader.
>>
>> Of course Hunter is deliriously happy. He will have to sober up,
>> though, to realise how happy he is.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Honesty. Decency. Integrity
>>>
>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=33An6HotyuI
>>>
>>> Nov 20, 2012
>>> Hamas execution of 6 men, dragged in the streets of Gaza
>
>One man, one vote and in Iran the man with the one vote in this
>presidential elections was the unelected Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.

You, got a problem, with that Jewish anus? <B> <G> <BG> <BG> <EVG>
<VEG>
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The Peeler

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:54:40 PM6/16/13
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On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:39:31 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 05:32:20 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>
>>>One man, one vote and in Iran the man with the one vote in this
>>>presidential elections was the unelected Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei.
>>
>> You, got a problem, with that Jewish anus? <B> <G> <BG> <BG> <EVG>
>> <VEG>
>
>You don't, Serb master? <BG>

I, don't Grik anus! <B> <G> <VBG> <VGB> <VEG>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 17, 2013, 7:28:44 AM6/17/13
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Not my anus but my brain as I beleive in honesty. decency and integrity.

The Peeler

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:18:45 AM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:28:44 +1000, Truth and honesty
As, a semitic raghead, you are EXEMPT from honesty decency and
integrity Jewish person anus! <B> <G> <GB> <BG> <VEG>
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The Peeler

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Jun 17, 2013, 2:42:09 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:20:35 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 06:18:45 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>> <VEG>
>>>
>>>Not my anus but my brain as I beleive in honesty. decency and integrity.
>>
>> As, a semitic raghead, you are EXEMPT from honesty decency and
>> integrity Jewish person anus! <B> <G> <GB> <BG> <VEG>
>
>Of, course we, all know that I, am PROJECTING, I'm a psychopath! It's part of my Grik
>psychopathy! <BG>

It, IS Grik anus! <GB>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:26:09 AM6/18/13
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So you see people as you see yourself. Because you are not honesty, you are
certainly not decency and have no integrity you assume others share your
ways. You are wrong.

The Peeler

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:49:57 AM6/18/13
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:26:09 +1000, Truth and honesty
YOU are not honesty [sic]. You are not decency [sic]. You have no
integrity. As a Jewish person anus you, are exempt from all of these
innit! <EGVB>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 18, 2013, 11:28:40 AM6/18/13
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We are talking how you see people in your own reflection. Here you are an
example You are dishonest, have not decency and no integrity so you assume
this in others.

The Peeler

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Jun 18, 2013, 12:18:44 PM6/18/13
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:28:40 +1000, Truth and honesty
You, are PROJECTING Jewish person anus!

"Have not decency"? Is English not, your first, language Jewish
person anus? Is yiddish innit! <EGBV>
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The Peeler

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Jun 18, 2013, 6:25:03 PM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:49:04 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 07:49:57 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>
>>>So you see people as you see yourself. Because you are not honesty, you are
>>>certainly not decency and have no integrity you assume others share your
>>>ways. You are wrong.
>>
>> YOU are not honesty [sic]. You are not decency [sic]. You have no
>> integrity. As a Jewish person anus you, are exempt from all of these
>> innit! <EGVB>
>
>But it's obvious to EVERYONE that I AM PROJECTING, Im a Grik psychopath! <BG>

Totally obvious innit Grik anus! <GB>

The Peeler

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:32:23 PM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:50:24 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 09:18:44 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>
>>>We are talking how you see people in your own reflection. Here you are an
>>>example You are dishonest, have not decency and no integrity so you assume
>>>this in others.
>>
>> You, are PROJECTING Jewish person anus!
>>
>> "Have not decency"? Is English not, your first, language Jewish
>> person anus? Is yiddish innit! <EGBV>
>
>My PSYCHOSIS is showing, I'm a Grik Rectum! <VBG>

You, ARE! And, a Grik anus too innit! <VGB>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 19, 2013, 9:34:04 AM6/19/13
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Check the discussion above it is you we are discussing

The Peeler

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Jun 19, 2013, 10:02:25 AM6/19/13
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:34:04 +1000, Truth and honesty
Do, the same Jewish anus. It is, YOUR pidgin English we're,
discussing innit!!
<tsk>
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The Peeler

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Jun 19, 2013, 3:29:20 PM6/19/13
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:40:37 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:02:25 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>
>>>Check the discussion above it is you we are discussing
>>
>> Do, the same Jewish anus. It is, YOUR pidgin English we're,
>> discussing innit!!
>> <tsk>
>
>Nope, The Rectum! ANY time Iappear in a thread, people start discussing
>my IDIOCY ...in any ng! ;-)

They, DO Grik anus! I, noticed that too innit! <GB>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 20, 2013, 8:48:01 AM6/20/13
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You are quite welcome to try and show this, what you will see if you
attempt such a thing is that you have a very low self esteem.

The Peeler

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Jun 20, 2013, 9:26:18 AM6/20/13
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:48:01 +1000, Truth and honesty
Unlikely Jewish anus. You have, no self esteem at all innit! <EE>

Truth and honesty

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Jun 20, 2013, 11:21:36 AM6/20/13
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Yet again you're seeing things in your own mirror because you have very low
self esteem, you assume that others suffer from the same problem.

The Peeler

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Jun 20, 2013, 12:05:31 PM6/20/13
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:21:36 +1000, Truth and honesty
I, don't have, a mirror Jewish anus. The, problem is, yours innit.
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The Peeler

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Jun 20, 2013, 3:51:20 PM6/20/13
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:58:00 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:26:18 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>>>
>>>You are quite welcome to try and show this, what you will see if you
>>>attempt such a thing is that you have a very low self esteem.
>>
>> Unlikely Jewish anus. You have, no self esteem at all innit! <EE>
>
>See, this is my psychosis talking through me, a poor Grik psycho! <BG>
>
>Your pwnling
>
>The Foreskin Peeler

Innit Grik anus! Innit very much! <EVGB>

The Peeler

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Jun 20, 2013, 4:04:40 PM6/20/13
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On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:08:56 +0200, The Peeler
<finish...@themoronicRevd.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:05:31 -0700, The Rectum, the resident psychopath of
>sci and scj, FAKING his time zone again and IMPERSONATING his master, The
>Peeler, wrote:
>
>
>>>Yet again you're seeing things in your own mirror because you have very low
>>>self esteem, you assume that others suffer from the same problem.
>>
>> I, don't have, a mirror Jewish anus. The, problem is, yours innit.
>
>What we know for sure, is that I have no BRAIN, no LIFE, no FRIENDS, no
>SEX, no SLEEP! But I DO have a mirror and an anus! LOL

Which do, you use, most Grik anus?? LOL1
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