WHY I AM HE
Art Bulla
The way that I am going to say the words that I speak is very important,
in that many are the misconceptions about a prophet, what he looks like,
talks like, don't the people in general recognize the Lord's annointed by
the way he ap計ears, the way he carries himself? Joseph Smith's
grandfather said of him, "he writes like a prophet." Paul, we understand,
was of short stat赴re, about five foot two, and bandy or bowlegged, and had
a hawkish Roman or Jewish nose, but eyes which pierced through to eternity.
I have seen as Paul, for I too have "come to visions and revelations of the
Lord" for I could not tell if I was in my body or out when I conversed with
him face to face quickened by such power the tongue cleaves to the roof of
the mouth and stops for the inadequacy. Joseph was and is a true prophet,
for a short time after my first vision, I was given a copy of the book which
he translated. I bear record, and get over it if you can, that I have seen
and heard for myself, and have been sent as Joseph prophesied that I would
come, having the keys of the Priesthood by lineage and by right, being
accounted a direct descendant by blood of the kingdom, being a direct
descen苓ant of David, given from before the foundation of the world as a
king and a priest as a witness, for I have seen and I have heard things
which are truely beyond the power of mere words to express, while in
the spirit, for the things of God "knoweth no man, but by the Spirit of
God".
I have received a complete volume of scripture for this generation, as
others (Isaiah, Samuel, Joseph, Ezekial, Nephi, etc.) have for theirs. I
testify boldly it is the truth, for I have received it from God, and as Paul
"preached the gosple" with much contention, even so I am not afraid of a
little contention also, for the warfare, has it not been transferred to the
earth, and only the "best men bring forth the best works"? I fear noth虹ng,
except the might and power of the Being who spoke unto me in the vision,
which was of such power that I spoke with him in a tongue which was at once
more magnificent in its command of the things of the spirit and the
intelligence of of light and truth than English with its lack of vocabulary
can express, and I shall forever adore his presence, and my bones truely
quake at the power manifested when I receive even now revelations from him,
for he is a God of glory as Moses exclaimed, "Where is thy glory that I
should worship thee, depart from me, for where is thy glory, Satan, that I
should worship thee? For except I were quickened by his power, I should
have withered in his presence." And my natural eyes could not have beheld,
and my life has hung in the bal苔nce many times, as Paul said, "why stand we
in jeapordy every hour, if there be no resurrection?" And as Joseph my
brother whom I love more than my life, for with such brethren we could have
taken the world from the despots of the enemies of the dispersed of Israel,
for the God of Is訃ael, saith the Lord, is he not a God of battles? I have
seen that Jesus was a war訃ior of the first rank, and as Joseph was chased
like a hart upon the mountains by the world with hell at its back, even so
have I, Art Bulla, and I lie not, for since my first vision, all hell has
been stirred up against me but I have been delivered from them all, that I
might sing my song, and publish salvation upon the mountains as prophesied,
for I testify that God, the God of Isaiah lives, for I have seen him and
tasted of such might, brilliance and power and honor and intelligence the
tongue cannot express it, for was I not removed out of this tabernacle and
taken up with him for a glorious space and I beheld?
And as Paul was led to Ananias to receive baptism, even so was I led
by my God to the Elders of the Church of Jesus Christ, for as there was a
controversy embroiling men of intelligence and sagacity of the time on the
subject of religion, whether God should be worshipped in Je訃usalem in the
Temple, or on top of a mountain in Samaria, for they were of Ephraim and did
they not have the birthright? But Jesus, the Lord's (for the Lord said unto
my Lord, sit thou upon my right hand, until I have made my enemies thy
footstool) annointed son, but only firstborn among many brethren, as I also,
have been with him from the beginning so testify, salvation cometh of the
Jews, even so I say, salva負ion cometh, (and there is a second death) and I
say it boldly with all the world opposing me, salvation did come by the
Latter- Day-Saints, for I received baptism, by entering through the gate
which is truely straight and narrow and the next day being filled with such
might and joy and power I went boldly forth among the soldiers, and was not
a Green Be訃et, over six foot in height, was he not picked up off his feet
and set on his back by the angel of the Holy One of Israel, who is mightier
than all of the armies of the earth? I say, as that sargent of the Green
Beret at負empted to play a prank behind my back, the angel defended my
honor, and that I might be free to declare the message of salvation, picked
the man off his feet effortlessly, and thrust him upon the floor unhurt.
And so I have seen and bear record that Joseph Smith was the Lord's
an要ointed and I am he who should come to redeem Israel by power such as has
not been seen since Enoch if the people will gather and receive counsel from
the God who is speaking now through my mouth unto thee O Israel, for I am he
who should come, even as spoken by Isaiah and Joseph Smith unto whom
belongeth the kingdom by lineage and by right, having the sealing power
committed unto me, I have been ap計ointed at the gate for this genera負ion
as Peter, and all power on earth or in heaven hath it not also been given
unto that One mighty and strong, O man, and none of this generation, who I
testify to will pass by me for judgment hath it not been committed unto me,
O man, and O woman, from before the foundation of the world, and have I not
been sent as him of old unto the Jews, who is my brother, even Jesus
surnamed the Christ? And did not the Jews reject him, and if ye make the
same mis負ake as they, O Israel, it shall be to thy peril, for my God, the
God who spoke out of the heavens to the Master-Sargent, who was cursing the
Mormons to my face, as I opened my mouth to speak, did not a voice proceed
forth which shook the ground upon which we three stood, and did not those
brave men of the army of the United States not hear and see for them貞elves,
and my God is mightier than any mere arm of flesh or any nuclear tipped
weapon, for his power is it not mine to wield for thy salvation, O Israel,
if ye will come unto me, even I, who art mighty and strong from before the
foundation of the world, through him who strengtheneth me?
Again, I say that I am receiving revelation upon such topics as
evo衍ution, Adam-God, negro-priest虐ood, and many other deceptions
prac負iced upon the ignorant Gentiles by the father of lies, exposing the
fraud thereof to the whole world, and if the whole world disregard me in my
message they will only sink them貞elves to endless woes and destruction, for
did not the entire Roman world ignore not only Jesus, but the entire Jewish
nation, even though "salvation cometh of the Jews" as salvation in this day
until the Negro-priesthood revelation, did it not also come of the
Latter-Day-Saints and has not the world also disregarded them as it so far
has me to their peril, for their salvation hangeth upon the thread of the
surge of life which beats within my breast to the glory of the Most High
God? And is not my glory in the world to come greater for having endured
the shame of the cross also? Therefor disregard not these things and turn
not aside the just for a thing of naught as do the Gentile dogs, as Jesus
would have said, which rough things which he spake of苯ended his smooth
contemporaries that they rid themselves of one so un苞outh as to openly
speak truth. And in 1979, did I not receive my first written revelation,
the keys of the Priesthood given unto my by or苓ina負ion, and the Lord gave
me further instructions, and I was, as a testi衫ony commanded to take two of
them (written revelations) to that man who was given as my home負eacher,
as they are called, my patiently be虹ng in the Church until that point, and
my hometeacher in an enraged fury, tried to kill me for my impertinence at
having claimed what was fact, nonetheless, despite his fury. And though my
nose was broken, I did receive another revelation that very night stating
that his servants had been treated in just this way in all ages of the
world, and was not Je貞us crucified by such rage as that manifes負ed at that
time. And thus through the spirit, I had seen Satan with his chains had
blinded the minds of the Latter-Day-Saints, and they had become more
estranged and hardened than the world which they were attempting to save.
And is that man of sin, is he not revealed by these words also?[1]
I am including some of the Revelations which I have received for your
perusal as was given unto the people of old by that One who spoke unto the
prophets of Israel, even so hath he spoken in these last days unto that One
mighty and strong whose feet, are they not beautiful upon the mountains, and
who pub衍isheth peace, and saith unto Zion thy God, doth he not yet
reign[1]? Even so judge ye, for with what judg衫ent ye judge, that shall ye
also be judged, and I care not for this world having beheld his glory, and
again I bear testimony that I am he who should come, and though I bear
testimony of myself, yet there are ten-thousand who shall return in the day
with Enoch, who are mightier than the earth who shall also bear record of
me, for I have been visited by two, also. Even so. Amen.
1. 2 Thess. 2:3-11.
[1]See Isaiah 52.
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the
context of
the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and
foul wretches
imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to
all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If
this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see
that I am
justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on
the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice,
and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys
of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according
to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.
Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the
Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about
being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or
reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition
of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand."
Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
<http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3>
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68
As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons
of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the
brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
indebted
to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God
has
spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the
one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge
and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over
preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of
righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the
creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229,
George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they
understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not
understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This
can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became
foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of
Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the
gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith
in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall
be sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
gig...@netscape.net
come to plague the world. That's just GREAT!!!
http://www.iapprovethismessiah.com/
How many more are there in the woodwork?
Too many to count, I can guarantee ya..
Art Bulla wrote:
> WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
>
<snip>
GIGO
Guy R. Briggs
as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun,
see how they fly. I’m crying."
-- The Beatles, "I Am the Walrus"
bestRegards, Guy.
John Manning
> WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
Here is Art Bulla *in his own words*, running from the law after abusing
his wife and children and having been submitted for involuntary
commitment as a madman by the authorities. Bulla is currently hiding out
in a shack in Baja, Mexico like the coward he is. Before you read *his
words*, you may wish to look at a photo of his shack, that he posted
himself:
Photo of Bulla's hideout shack [thnx to Kevin Zoellner for retrieving
it]: http://home.comcast.net/%7Ek.zoellner/averyfinehouse.html
NOW,
*Bulla in his own words*:
Sheriff's deputies came with handcuffs led by my brother in law, Clyde.
My family had been stolen from me by boy scouts with pickup trucks,
traiterous mother-in-law, suborned stake authorities, etc.
[...]
They brought me handcuffed for trial for involuntary commitmnet. I had
flowers in one hand for my wife and candy for the children whom I had
not seen in two weeks.
[...]
Now after I had made my escape from the clutches of those evil men and
women, I made my way back to my in Randolph Co., N.C. (we had a
farmhouse which we heated in the winter by burning walnut cut offs from
the furniture factories in High Point) and I had no money. And the
spirit whispered for me to flee, for there was no mercy there, no one to
turn to, and I took my wife's sewing machine to a second hand store in
Greensboro for gas money.
The Lord was in it for I made instant friends with the owner who was my
age, and he stood out on the main street of Greensboro, and pointed to a
building and said, "See that building? I own that building", it was
about fifteen stories high. He pointed to several more, and said, "That
one is full of refrigerators", etc. He said, he was a millionaire and
that he was not as happy as when he had no money.
He considered my plight for I told him of my wife and mother-in-law and
the Mormons hunting me like some kind of deer.
And he said that he had a truck and he would come with me at night and
load up all the goods in the house and he offered to pay me a sum of
money which would enable me to flee the state. I instantly accepted,
for the goods were mine, and I did not regard any court has the right to
dictate me in my family affairs, despite what the gentile mammon
believes, and he and I loaded up everything except what I could carry in
my car which was a Triumph Gt 6 hatchback. He drove the truck back to
Greensboro when we had completed this.
My wife stole the book of remembrance and I took the genealogy and the
journal and a few other items and began camping out. Well they could
not find me, and I decided to give Cathy one more chance, for we were
very close and I just could not understand her betrayal (she took issue
with the revelation I received on my Messiahship which I can explain if
given the chance) and invented all sorts of lies about me subsequently
even to my five children.
Well the spirit told me to go to Utah, and I determined to leave
that next morning. Well, the court put out a warrant for my arrest for
contempt, and the spirit had whispered to me to camp out in Guilford
Co., which I did, and they could not find me. Well I was leaving for the
Tennessee border the next morning and I thought, well I would call her
on[e] last time, and she said, in her old manner, "Let's talk"
My heart lept for joy, I was such a fool. She said for me to meet her at
old Carl's Grocery Story on Highway 220, at 10:00 pm.
Carl was such a great friend and I was going to baptize him in a farm
pond near there, where I had done other baptisms and will always love
him for what he did, which I will later explain. Well,
I was driving in my low slung green Triumph GT6 with wire wheels and an
in-line six with two zenith-strombug carbeurators, to the appointment,
when an audible voice above my head spoke in a clear voice and said,
"They have the sheriff after you".
I was completely duped to that point, Cathy knowing just how to speak to
me on the phone, the right tone of voice, the words, etc.
The scales of course then fell from my eyes, and I realized the danger I
was in. The voice then commanded park the British sports car "behind
that tree", which was situated almost directly across the highway from
Carl's, and it was a bushy fern, which I obeyed. Well Cathy and her
mother showed up at the appointed time, and Clara had a towel wrapped
around her head.
Cathy was driving and the first thing she said was "Where
is you car?" I immediately said "You have the sheriff after me and we
will have to go somewhere else, if you want to talk."
Clara then said "would I be dressed like this, referring to the towel,
if I was going to talk to the sheriff?" So her mother must have thought
"This guy is smarter than I believed" for she always took me to be a
simpleton as she did all men, commanded Cathy (Cathy had been in slavery
to her mother before I met her, her mother had ruined three of her own
marriages, and now wanted to ruin mine) to get out of the car and "talk
to him".
As I looked over Cathy's shoulder into the highway, I immediately saw
three sheriff's patrol cars shoot past and they went to the wrong store
a little down the highway, and realizing their mistake, for they saw us,
turned around with lights and spots ablaze.
Cathy's mother then jumped out of the car and pointed at me, "There he
is! There he is!" I remember she still had the towel wrapped around her
head, as they began their turn into Carl's small parking lot. Terror, of
course seized me, and I sprang into action, and turned and ran for the
woods above the railroad tracks behind Carl's Store, and hurtled
pell mell straight into the thickest blackberry patch I had ever
experienced in my life, for I had grown up in North Carolina, and used
to pick blackberries for a pie my mother would make. They seemed to
frequent railroad tracks a lot,
and the over-weight sheriff's deputies balked at chasing me on foot,
especially into the fearsome patch, and one of my relatives, a Bulla,
was the Chief of Police in Asheboro.
I finally reached the tracks I knew were there and crouched down and
watched and waited apprehensively. They congregated milled about, and
began searching for my car, for if they found it, they would have had me
dead to rights, for this was a rural area. Their spotlights searched
high and low, and the beams occasionaly would point crazily up in the air.
Then my great friend Carl (who stood over six feet) came out of his
store and in a loud voice which I could distinctly hear pierced the
night air, and commanded to the crowd, "Get off of my property! Now!"
which they then did.
They searched for three hours for my Triumph, even though it was just
across the street!
When they finally gave up, and all was calm and deserted, with my heart
in my throat, I made my way down to the highway and bolted across it,
jumped in my Triumph, and was across the Tennessee state line a few
hours later.
I stopped at a pay phone and tried to call Cathy, for I was still in
love with her, and she just hung up on me without saying a word. So I
was delivered by the hand of the Lord, that I could sing my song and
publish peace and say upon the mountains to Zion, "Thy God reigneth!"
So that is the true story of my "desertion".
Brigham Young "deserted" his wife and children on a sick bed to go to
England on a mission, and my mission was to the decrepit and corrupt
Mormons to try to reclaim them from the bondage of Babylon the Great
to build Zion.
Jesus "deserted" his wives and children to be hung on a piece of wood,
worse than a common thief. If that is "desertion" so be it, for I love
the Kingdom of God and its righteousness more than my life or even my
children, though I wept many times over their situation.
Eliza left home many times because the Mormons stole her from me, and
she will today have nothing to do with the enlightened Mormons mob who
robbed me of my family.
See the Google Archive of his post here:
http://tinyurl.com/6xlkf
Art Bulla
with an enemy of Joseph Smith! All combine to persecute me. All you have
against me is the house I live in! Amazing. And your little liberal mind is
so corrupt you cannot see the fallacy of arguing for or against based on the
house one lives in! The prophets had to live in caves and dens of the
earth, for Pete's sake. I live on a million dollar property of a hundred
acres which is given to me. I live on the ocean, enjoy the sun and sea
every day. I have a truck, a new car, an atv, a ski boat which does 55 mph
on the water, a dune buggy to explore the deserts and mountains. The car is
new, the others are not, but that does not matter to me. It is all gentile
vanity anyway designed to canker the soul. I am God's servant. I do not
toil, neither do I spin. I have all I need provided to me by the Lord. I
have several hundreds of dollars monthly to spend on whatever I choose. I
do not care to live other than humbly, however, not like Cretan gentile
swine such as yourself. You are a bankrupt fool and a hypocrit and
slanderer of the first magnitude.
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field,
how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not
arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and
to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of
little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we
drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly
Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all
these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take
thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil
thereof.
(New Testament | Matthew 6:28 - 34)
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Five 1842-43 Pg.270
Some of the company thought I was not a very meek Prophet; so I told them:
"I am meek and lowly in heart," and will personify Jesus for a moment, to
illustrate the principle, and cried out with a loud voice, "Woe unto you, ye
doctors; woe unto you, ye lawyers; woe unto you, ye scribes, Pharisees, and
hypocrites!" But you cannot find the place where I ever went that I found
fault with their food, their drink, their house, their lodgings; no, never;
and this is what is meant by the meekness and lowliness of Jesus.
"John Manning" <jrob...@terra.com.br> wrote in message
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Art Bulla
The get on walls, such as Josephus, saying I have a message from God. Jesus
proclaimed himself, whom you deny, being an atheist from hell. Darwinism
has produced untold misery in the world. Stalin was a Darwinist, the Nazis
were Darwinists, abotionists are Darwinists such as yourself. Mao was a
Darwinist, Pol Pot, the list is absolutely endless. I am come to liberate
men from this depravity due to a lack of the knowledge of the Creator I
have seen, and I declare him whom I have seen, and I do declare and proclaim
I am sent of God as Jesus did, you unlettered fool. I have to show you what
has been written in plain view for two-thousand years, which you are
ignorant of:
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself;
thy record is not true.
14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my
record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot
tell whence I come, and whither I go.
15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and
the Father that sent me.
17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth
witness of me.
(New Testament | John 8:13 - 18)
<gig...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Art Bulla
care enough to give.
3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back.
(Old Testament | Proverbs 26:3)
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"Sten-Arne Zerpe" <ze...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:00:27 -0800.
> In the Newsgroup(s): alt.religion.scientology
> With the Message-ID: <39m1q2F...@individual.net>
> And the Organization Header: .
> The famous author: "Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com>.
> Wrote on the subject: WHY I AM HE:
>
>>WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
>>
>>
>
> You aren't. You are the one who should go away.
>
> SAZ
>
> (Followup-To, set to alt.usenet.kooks)
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
seer Art Bulla, "Great", for he is among the seven seers, being called
by prophecy, and ordained before the world was created. And it was
[NOT] my private interpretation either, but my divine right to make
this known to the world first, as spoken by the prophet Zechariah.
[And I let it be known that Art Bulla is the center branch of the
menorah.] The one called The Branch. Even if there are others called
of God's managers to fulfill this mission, they shall fall to the
ground by the shafts of thunder, for they do not hold the scepter of
power that blossoms. And only one can hold this authority upon this
earth at any given time.
BEHOLD: Who Is Art Bulla? One anointed to sit on the throne of David.
Noah-- Moses-- Elijah-Throne of David---Peter---Joseph Smith-- Joshua
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The Star of David is the Great King, The Lord Our Righteousness, our
Prophet Art Bulla, The BRANCH. On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:00:27 -0800,
John Manning
> Zoellner is a murderer, saith the Lord.
Kevin Zoellner is a patriotic American Marine, and a sincere Mormon that
sees that you're nuts like everyone else does. He simply kept a photo of
your *hideout from US law* that you posted yourself. You spit on US law
just to save your sorry chickenshit ass - just like you spit on your
wife and children when you abused them.
> So-called Mormon allying himself
> with an enemy of Joseph Smith!
Smith was a documented con-artist [Kirtland Bank fraud], liar [Polygamy]
and lech [threatened women with divine retribution if they didn't have
sex with him].
> All combine to persecute me.
You live in an imaginary paranoid world that doesn't exist. You're not
connected to reality. You belong in a rubber room as the authorities
have indicated AND your insane posts continue to justify.
"They brought me handcuffed for trial for involuntary commitment."
~ Art Bulla [in his *own words*], for abusing his wife and children
> All you have
> against me is the house I live in!
No, Bulla. You ran away from the law after having abused your wife and
children - like the coward that you are. You were about to be committed
as the psychopath that you are. You have no respect for the laws of the
USA. You're a criminal on-the-run, and hiding out in Mexico because you
are a coward.
'Prophet of God'??? What a joke!!!
[snip nonsense]
DumberThanSnot
Art... show me ONE... JUST ONE place where Joseph Smith uses the
words, "I'll kick your ass!", "I'll put you 6 feet under", "I'll beat
ya with my quarterstaff", "you have your head up your ass", etc.
you don't even resemble someone attempting to pass himself off as a
prophet. YOU are the fake prophet the bible warns everyone about. So,
in that sense, you're right... the bible did write about you!
Pat Harrington
> a...@artbulla.com ("Art Bulla") wrote:
> >
> > WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
> >
> "I am he as you are he
> as you are me and we are all together.
> See how they run like pigs from a gun,
>
> -- The Beatles, "I Am the Walrus"
>
>
> bestRegards, Guy.
Damn, Guy, I was gonna say that!! I wonder if the world will soon
see yellow matter custard dripping from this prophet's eye.
Pat Harrington
> Say that to my face, coward and I will give you a lesson yo momma didn't
> care enough to give.
>
I'd be very happy to say it to your face. You are obviously a
coward AND a liar. No doubt, then a prophet of Jesus. You're just
the latest chapter in a long line of wastes of breath and space.
Leave the Usenet. You DO realise that there's plenty of information
in the picture of your house to find you. I reckon if people were
really wanting to, you'd be had in about 5 days. Consider that, if
you've lasted longer than that, nobody cares about you. That includes
your family!!!!! You're obviously an embarrassment to them. That
place you're hiding in reminds me a bit of Charlie Manson's place in
Death Valley. A bit less remote, though. Funny thing is, if you
really WERE important, the world would have heard abit more from you.
I reckon, if you do make international news, it'll be a Waco event.
Do the right thing, Art. Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies are
some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
Pat Harrington
> Yes, why do I, [Joshua Israel] always call the prophet, revelator, and
> seer Art Bulla, "Great",
My bet is that YOU are actually Art Bulla logged on as someone
else. Old trick. Very tired.
gig...@netscape.net
that fickle finger. "DAMN" is an awfully BIG *word*.
You don't point a loaded gun at somebody do -you-?
Aim it at inanimate objects or words that don't mean
as much, but whatever -you- do, don't "damn" any part of G-ds
creation. Too many people doin that already.. ..think before
-you- blast something!
bd4u
gig...@netscape.net
Pat Harrington wrote:
> "Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
news:<ecpb319oc6sruqi24...@4ax.com>...
> > Yes, why do I, [Joshua Israel] always call the prophet, revelator,
and
> > seer Art Bulla, "Great",
>
>
> My bet is that YOU are actually Art Bulla logged on as someone
> else. Old trick. Very tired.
>
Nope he is *real* enuff alright. For a sycophant
of Lord Artemis Bulla.
. 666
> > >the way he appears, the way he carries himself? Joseph Smith's
> > >grandfather said of him, "he writes like a prophet." Paul, we
understand,
> > >was of short stature, about five foot two, and bandy or
bowlegged, and had
> > >a hawkish Roman or Jewish nose, but eyes which pierced through to
eternity.
> > >I have seen as Paul, for I too have "come to visions and
revelations of the
> > >Lord" for I could not tell if I was in my body or out when I
conversed with
> > >him face to face quickened by such power the tongue cleaves to the
roof of
> > >the mouth and stops for the inadequacy. Joseph was and is a true
prophet,
> > >for a short time after my first vision, I was given a copy of the
book which
> > >he translated. I bear record, and get over it if you can, that I
have seen
> > >and heard for myself, and have been sent as Joseph prophesied that
I would
> > >come, having the keys of the Priesthood by lineage and by right,
being
> > >accounted a direct descendant by blood of the kingdom, being a
direct
> > >descendant of David, given from before the foundation of the
world as a
> > >king and a priest as a witness, for I have seen and I have heard
things
> > >which are truely beyond the power of mere words to express,
while in
> > >the spirit, for the things of God "knoweth no man, but by the
Spirit of
> > >God".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have received a complete volume of scripture for this
generation, as
> > >others (Isaiah, Samuel, Joseph, Ezekial, Nephi, etc.) have for
theirs. I
> > >testify boldly it is the truth, for I have received it from God,
and as Paul
> > >"preached the gosple" with much contention, even so I am not
afraid of a
> > >little contention also, for the warfare, has it not been
transferred to the
> > >earth, and only the "best men bring forth the best works"? I fear
nothing,
> > >except the might and power of the Being who spoke unto me in the
vision,
> > >which was of such power that I spoke with him in a tongue which
was at once
> > >more magnificent in its command of the things of the spirit and
the
> > >intelligence of of light and truth than English with its lack of
vocabulary
> > >can express, and I shall forever adore his presence, and my bones
truely
> > >quake at the power manifested when I receive even now revelations
from him,
> > >for he is a God of glory as Moses exclaimed, "Where is thy glory
that I
> > >should worship thee, depart from me, for where is thy glory,
Satan, that I
> > >should worship thee? For except I were quickened by his power, I
should
> > >have withered in his presence." And my natural eyes could not have
beheld,
> > >and my life has hung in the balance many times, as Paul said,
"why stand we
> > >in jeapordy every hour, if there be no resurrection?" And as
Joseph my
> > >brother whom I love more than my life, for with such brethren we
could have
> > >taken the world from the despots of the enemies of the dispersed
of Israel,
> > >for the God of Israel, saith the Lord, is he not a God of
battles? I have
> > >seen that Jesus was a warrior of the first rank, and as Joseph
was chased
> > >like a hart upon the mountains by the world with hell at its back,
even so
> > >have I, Art Bulla, and I lie not, for since my first vision, all
hell has
> > >been stirred up against me but I have been delivered from them
all, that I
> > >might sing my song, and publish salvation upon the mountains as
prophesied,
> > >for I testify that God, the God of Isaiah lives, for I have seen
him and
> > >tasted of such might, brilliance and power and honor and
intelligence the
> > >tongue cannot express it, for was I not removed out of this
tabernacle and
> > >taken up with him for a glorious space and I beheld?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And as Paul was led to Ananias to receive baptism, even so
was I led
> > >by my God to the Elders of the Church of Jesus Christ, for as
there was a
> > >controversy embroiling men of intelligence and sagacity of the
time on the
> > >subject of religion, whether God should be worshipped in
Jerusalem in the
> > >Temple, or on top of a mountain in Samaria, for they were of
Ephraim and did
> > >they not have the birthright? But Jesus, the Lord's (for the Lord
said unto
> > >my Lord, sit thou upon my right hand, until I have made my enemies
thy
> > >footstool) annointed son, but only firstborn among many brethren,
as I also,
> > >have been with him from the beginning so testify, salvation cometh
of the
> > >Jews, even so I say, salvation cometh, (and there is a second
death) and I
> > >say it boldly with all the world opposing me, salvation did come
by the
> > >Latter- Day-Saints, for I received baptism, by entering through
the gate
> > >which is truely straight and narrow and the next day being filled
with such
> > >might and joy and power I went boldly forth among the soldiers,
and was not
> > >a Green Beret, over six foot in height, was he not picked up off
his feet
> > >and set on his back by the angel of the Holy One of Israel, who is
mightier
> > >than all of the armies of the earth? I say, as that sargent of
the Green
> > >Beret attempted to play a prank behind my back, the angel
defended my
> > >honor, and that I might be free to declare the message of
salvation, picked
> > >the man off his feet effortlessly, and thrust him upon the floor
unhurt.
> > >And so I have seen and bear record that Joseph Smith was the
Lord's
> > >annointed and I am he who should come to redeem Israel by power
such as has
> > >not been seen since Enoch if the people will gather and receive
counsel from
> > >the God who is speaking now through my mouth unto thee O Israel,
for I am he
> > >who should come, even as spoken by Isaiah and Joseph Smith unto
whom
> > >belongeth the kingdom by lineage and by right, having the sealing
power
> > >committed unto me, I have been appointed at the gate for this
generation
> > >as Peter, and all power on earth or in heaven hath it not also
been given
> > >unto that One mighty and strong, O man, and none of this
generation, who I
> > >testify to will pass by me for judgment hath it not been committed
unto me,
> > >O man, and O woman, from before the foundation of the world, and
have I not
> > >been sent as him of old unto the Jews, who is my brother, even
Jesus
> > >surnamed the Christ? And did not the Jews reject him, and if ye
make the
> > >same mistake as they, O Israel, it shall be to thy peril, for my
God, the
> > >God who spoke out of the heavens to the Master-Sargent, who was
cursing the
> > >Mormons to my face, as I opened my mouth to speak, did not a voice
proceed
> > >forth which shook the ground upon which we three stood, and did
not those
> > >brave men of the army of the United States not hear and see for
themselves,
> > >and my God is mightier than any mere arm of flesh or any nuclear
tipped
> > >weapon, for his power is it not mine to wield for thy salvation, O
Israel,
> > >if ye will come unto me, even I, who art mighty and strong from
before the
> > >foundation of the world, through him who strengtheneth me?
> > >
> > >
> > > Again, I say that I am receiving revelation upon such topics
as
> > >evolution, Adam-God, negro-priesthood, and many other
deceptions
> > >practiced upon the ignorant Gentiles by the father of lies,
exposing the
> > >fraud thereof to the whole world, and if the whole world disregard
me in my
> > >message they will only sink themselves to endless woes and
destruction, for
> > >did not the entire Roman world ignore not only Jesus, but the
entire Jewish
> > >nation, even though "salvation cometh of the Jews" as salvation
in this day
> > >until the Negro-priesthood revelation, did it not also come of the
> > >Latter-Day-Saints and has not the world also disregarded them as
it so far
> > >has me to their peril, for their salvation hangeth upon the thread
of the
> > >surge of life which beats within my breast to the glory of the
Most High
> > >God? And is not my glory in the world to come greater for having
endured
> > >the shame of the cross also? Therefor disregard not these things
and turn
> > >not aside the just for a thing of naught as do the Gentile dogs,
as Jesus
> > >would have said, which rough things which he spake offended his
smooth
> > >contemporaries that they rid themselves of one so uncouth as to
openly
> > >speak truth. And in 1979, did I not receive my first written
revelation,
> > >the keys of the Priesthood given unto my by ordination, and
the Lord gave
> > >me further instructions, and I was, as a testimony commanded to
take two of
> > >them (written revelations) to that man who was given as my
hometeacher,
> > >as they are called, my patiently being in the Church until that
point, and
> > >my hometeacher in an enraged fury, tried to kill me for my
impertinence at
> > >having claimed what was fact, nonetheless, despite his fury. And
though my
> > >nose was broken, I did receive another revelation that very night
stating
> > >that his servants had been treated in just this way in all ages of
the
> > >world, and was not Jesus crucified by such rage as that
manifested at that
> > >time. And thus through the spirit, I had seen Satan with his
chains had
> > >blinded the minds of the Latter-Day-Saints, and they had become
more
> > >estranged and hardened than the world which they were attempting
to save.
> > >And is that man of sin, is he not revealed by these words also?[1]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am including some of the Revelations which I have received
for your
> > >perusal as was given unto the people of old by that One who spoke
unto the
> > >prophets of Israel, even so hath he spoken in these last days unto
that One
> > >mighty and strong whose feet, are they not beautiful upon the
mountains, and
> > >who publisheth peace, and saith unto Zion thy God, doth he not
yet
> > >reign[1]? Even so judge ye, for with what judgment ye judge,
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Harrington) wrote:
> Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
>will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies are
>some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
If that were true, then the Nazis were right about the Jews being out
to get the Aryans.
You are a really so stupid as a swine? For I have been warned that you
have dishonored your race, because you have done more to justify
anti-Semitic feelings with your stupid posts than the Germans are said
to have done unjustly.
Is that what you are saying, to the Latter-day Saints, that you want
to justify German actions?
Are you saying that Hitler was on a mission to punish the Jews for
Jesus Christ?
What a stupid person you are? If that is what you think. For Jesus is
a man of love.
Hate has no justification, and you're a good example of one who breeds
hate.
Don't you have any wise person to learn from? Do you not understand,
that the serpent will never lose its demon-venom, if you continue to
persecute it forever, for hatred brews hatred among the people.
Now the intelligent Jews are friends to Mormons, because they know who
their friends are, and like Israeli Intelligence Agencies (Mossad)
they would not be fooled by the like of you. For Mossad knows that
Mormon Church paid for the first ships that brought the Jews back to
their homeland after World War II.
Also if you had known anything about my English family, you would have
known that it was my family that help win the war against the Germans.
My family was shipbuilders and our ships were use too win the war, and
help save your Jewish butt. Yes, we built more than thirteen hundred
vessels. [Cook, Welton & GEMMELL Shipbuilders of Hull and Beverley
1883-1963, Michael Thompson, Hutton Press 1999]
And it if I were to search my family history, I would not be surprise
if I found out that some of my family's ships brought the Israeli back
to the land of Israel.
I don't think you are Jewish, because Jews are not dumb like you, and
it is my Jewish blood that burns with righteous indignation, when I am
confront by a self-hating Jew. Have you no pride?
Also, I would not be surprise if you were one of the evil frogs now
working with Gog. For like Hitler who had Jewish blood, but respected
his mother's doctor who was a Jew, he was a self-hating Jew. And you
do the same works. Yes, even like President Vladimir Putin who has
Jewish ancestry, but hates the Jews. What a self-hating Jew Putin is,
but are your out follow his lead. Yes, birds of a feather do flock
together.
Now, if you are not a self-hating Jew, why all the contradictions
coming from you?
Yes, is it because the most loving person whoever walked this earth
was Jesus Christ, and this burns you up, for you are another
self-hating Jew, like the ones who had the Jewish Jesus murdered.
Yes, royal Jewish bloodlines have always been cursed by self-hating
Jews like you, for they hated Jesus who was of royal Jewish blood, for
he was from the House of David. When the Jews killed their king Jesus,
the temple veil was rent and torn in two, for the glory of God's
Spirit was no longer found within the Jewish temple, and the Jew could
no longer hold on to holy ground. And ever since that day, the Jewish
dream of another temple, but God's Spirit was no longer found among
the self-hating Jews.
Now, since God is no longer inside the Jewish temple, why should
anyone be alarm to know that God doesn't work with the Jewish
leadership either; because they need a holy temple to have guidance
from God, to bring them out of danger.
By your fruit you are known today, you past work will save you, and
you do not the works of an intelligent person, but the works of a
self-hating Jew, and the Prophet Isaiah warned the Jews that those
seeking their destruction would emerge out of their own midst.
Self-hating Jews support the enemies of the Jewish People because THEY
TOO are enemies of the Jewish People!
And if you are not a self-hating Jew, then you are worse than an enemy
to the Jews because you are stupid, and a stupid friend is worst than
an enemy.
Don't you know who your friends are?
Why does so this utter madness spring forth from a "progressive Jew?"
Are you in the habit of kicking your friends, and kiss your enemies?
If you were intelligent, you would want a king to rule Israel, and
build you temple.
Also, it is another historical fact that it was the LDS CHURCH that
sent one of their Apostles to bless and dedicate the land of Israel
for the return of the Jews; ten years before the Jews return to
Israel. Yes, after this Latter-day Saint Apostle blessed the land of
Israel for the return of the Jews, ten years later, they returned.
Therefore you are stupid about historical facts, but then there has
always been, self-hating fools like you.
Joshua Israel Gemmell [Zech. 3 speaks of ME, go learn who I am, I am
the hope of Israel.]
PS: We Mormons can build many temples unto God, for are sanctified by
the blood of Jesus.
Art Bulla
killed. I do not fear death. Besides to die for Zion is glorious. I have
calmly looked down the barrel of a 38 pointed at my face, secure that God
would preserve me from mobs and all those who fight against Zion. I am a
lion. I am not afraid of mobs. I fight with the pen, which is mightier than
the sword anyhow. I have faced them before as well. Mobocracy is no way to
get me to "go away". The way to do that is to convince me with reason and
the truth, for I cringe before God whom I have seen, otherwise it is
impossible, for I have the God-given right to preach the gospel to the
foolish and depraved wherever God sends me. Here I stand, I cannot recant.
All the prophets have been killed at the hands of mobs:
SECTION 135
Martyrdom of Joseph Smith the Prophet and his brother, Hyrum Smith the
Patriarch, at Carthage, Illinois, June 27, 1844. HC 6:629-631. This document
was written by Elder John Taylor of the Council of the Twelve, who was a
witness to the events.
1-2, Joseph and Hyrum martyred in Carthage Jail;
3, Preeminent position of the Prophet acclaimed;
4-7, Their innocent blood testifies of the truth and divinity of the work.
1 TO seal the testimony of this book and the Book of Mormon, we announce the
martyrdom of Joseph Smith the Prophet, and Hyrum Smith the Patriarch. They
were shot in Carthage jail, on the 27th of June, 1844, about five o'clock
p.m., by an armed mob-painted black-of from 150 to 200 persons. Hyrum was
shot first and fell calmly, exclaiming: I am a dead man! Joseph leaped from
the window, and was shot dead in the attempt, exclaiming: O Lord my God!
They were both shot after they were dead, in a brutal manner, and both
received four balls.
2 John Taylor and Willard Richards, two of the Twelve, were the only persons
in the room at the time; the former was wounded in a savage manner with four
balls, but has since recovered; the latter, through the providence of God,
escaped, without even a hole in his robe.
3 Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus
only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever
lived in it. In the short space of twenty years, he has brought forth the
Book of Mormon, which he translated by the gift and power of God, and has
been the means of publishing it on two continents; has sent the fulness of
the everlasting gospel, which it contained, to the four quarters of the
earth; has brought forth the revelations and commandments which compose this
book of Doctrine and Covenants, and many other wise documents and
instructions for the benefit of the children of men; gathered many thousands
of the Latter-day Saints, founded a great city, and left a fame and name
that cannot be slain. He lived great, and he died great in the eyes of God
and his people; and like most of the Lord's anointed in ancient times, has
sealed his mission and his works with his own blood; and so has his brother
Hyrum. In life they were not divided, and in death they were not separated!
4 When Joseph went to Carthage to deliver himself up to the pretended
requirements of the law, two or three days previous to his assassination, he
said: "I am going like a lamb to the slaughter; but I am calm as a summer's
morning; I have a conscience void of offense towards God, and towards all
men. I SHALL DIE INNOCENT, AND IT SHALL YET BE SAID OF ME-HE WAS MURDERED IN
COLD BLOOD."-The same morning, after Hyrum had made ready to go-shall it be
said to the slaughter? yes, for so it was-he read the following paragraph,
near the close of the twelfth chapter of Ether, in the Book of Mormon, and
turned down the leaf upon it:
5 And it came to pass that I prayed unto the Lord that he would give unto
the Gentiles grace, that they might have charity. And it came to pass that
the Lord said unto me: If they have not charity it mattereth not unto thee,
thou hast been faithful; wherefore thy garments shall be made clean. And
because thou hast seen thy weakness, thou shalt be made strong, even unto
the sitting down in the place which I have prepared in the mansions of my
Father. And now I . . . bid farewell unto the Gentiles; yea, and also unto
my brethren whom I love, until we shall meet before the judgment-seat of
Christ, where all men shall know that my garments are not spotted with your
blood. The testators are now dead, and their testament is in force.
6 Hyrum Smith was forty-four years old in February, 1844, and Joseph Smith
was thirty-eight in December, 1843; and henceforward their names will be
classed among the martyrs of religion; and the reader in every nation will
be reminded that the Book of Mormon, and this book of Doctrine and Covenants
of the church, cost the best blood of the nineteenth century to bring them
forth for the salvation of a ruined world; and that if the fire can scathe a
green tree for the glory of God, how easy it will burn up the dry trees to
purify the vineyard of corruption. They lived for glory; they died for
glory; and glory is their eternal reward. From age to age shall their names
go down to posterity as gems for the sanctified.
7 They were innocent of any crime, as they had often been proved before, and
were only confined in jail by the conspiracy of traitors and wicked men; and
their innocent blood on the floor of Carthage jail is a broad seal affixed
to "Mormonism" that cannot be rejected by any court on earth, and their
innocent blood on the escutcheon of the State of Illinois, with the broken
faith of the State as pledged by the governor, is a witness to the truth of
the everlasting gospel that all the world cannot impeach; and their innocent
blood on the banner of liberty, and on the magna charta of the United
States, is an ambassador for the religion of Jesus Christ, that will touch
the hearts of honest men among all nations; and their innocent blood, with
the innocent blood of all the martyrs under the altar that John saw, will
cry unto the Lord of Hosts till he avenges that blood on the earth. Amen.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 135:Heading - 7)
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Joshua Israel <'}}}><
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:09:47 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
<n...@non.net> wrote:
>On 14 Mar 2005 16:02:02 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
>Harrington) wrote:
>
>> Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
>>will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies are
>>some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
>
>If that were true, then the Nazis were right about the Jews being out
>to get the Aryans.
>
[Are] you really so stupid as a swine?
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
more corrections:
but are your out [to] follow his lead. [If] yes, [then] birds of a
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
By your fruit you are known today, [but your] past [works] will [NOT]
Art Bulla
heaven to curse them as well. I would rather reason with you as friends, for
I truely do adore Jerusalem. If you do not repent, the Arabs now held at
bay, will be loosed upon you to utterly destroy you. You are preserved by
the hand of God as a nation, and I rejoice in it, but if you cling to false
doctrine, my God who will fight my battles will destroy you, you haughty
Jew. The Arabs are raised up by God to stir you up to repentance; you are
protected by God as in a bubble and that protection will be withdrawn if
you once more crucify your Messiah afresh.
20 Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given
them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out
of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all
nations.
(Old Testament | 2 Chronicles 7:20)
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
(New Testament | Matthew 10:28)
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Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
Why does [your] utter madness spring forth [like] a "progressive Jew?"
>>>>
Are you in the habit of kicking your friends, and [kissing your
enemies [butt]?
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
build [your] temple.
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, it is another historical fact that it was the LDS CHURCH that
>>>>>sent one of their Apostles to bless and dedicate the land of Israel
>>>>>for the return of the Jews; ten years before the Jews return to
>>>>>Israel. Yes, after this Latter-day Saint Apostle blessed the land of
>>>>>Israel for the return of the Jews, ten years later, they returned.
>>>>>
>>>>>Therefore you are stupid about historical facts, but then there has
>>>>>always been, self-hating fools like you.
>>>>>
Joshua Israel Gemmell [Zech. 3 speaks of ME, go learn who I am, I am
renewed hope for Israel, and the Great Art Bulla is your future king.]
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
PS: We Mormons can build many temples unto God, for [we] are
Art Bulla
children.
26 Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he
delivered him to be crucified.
27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and
gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head,
and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked
him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and
put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
32 And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they
compelled to bear his cross.
33 And when they were come unto a place called Golgotha, that is to say, a
place of a skull,
34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted
thereof, he would not drink.
35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it
might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments
among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
36 And sitting down they watched him there;
37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING
OF THE JEWS.
38 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand,
and another on the left.
39 And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads,
40 And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three
days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders,
said,
42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let
him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he
said, I am the Son of God.
44 The thieves also, which were crucified with him, cast the same in his
teeth.
45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the
ninth hour.
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli,
lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man
calleth for Elias.
48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with
vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.
49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the
bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept
arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy
city, and appeared unto many.
54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw
the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly,
saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
(New Testament | Matthew 27:25 - 54)
--
"Pat Harrington" <PatrickDH...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Art Bulla
the angry bees! This must be some kind of record! I may leap and shout for
joy, for so perecuted they the prophets before me!
Joshua's Test:
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Section Five 1842-43 Pg.259
He that will war the true Christian warfare against the corruptions of
these last days will have wicked men and angels of devils, and all the
infernal powers of darkness continually arrayed against him. When wicked
and corrupt men oppose, it is a criterion to judge if a man is warring the
Christian warfare. When all men speak evil of you falsely, blessed are ye.
Shall a man be considered bad, when men speak evil of him? No. If a man
stands and opposes the world of sin, he may expect to have all wicked and
corrupt spirits arrayed against him. But it will be but a little season,
and all these afflictions will be turned away from us, inasmuch as we are
faithful, and are not overcome by these evils. By seeing the blessings of
the endowment rolling on, and the kingdom increasing and spreading from sea
to sea, we shall rejoice that we were not overcome by these foolish things.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall
say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for
so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
(New Testament | Matthew 5:11 - 12)
Joshua is very perspecacious, as he framed what I call Joshua's Test: When
evil-doers post, there is no opposition, except from me, and this only
occasionally since I cannot humanly respond to all the evil filth spewed out
daily, of unbelief, and blasphemy.
But whenever a good poster posts, something inpsired of God, all hell is
stirred up, and it raises the ire of all these evil-doers who are cut to the
quick by the words of righteousnes.
We can apply this test to the false work "the sealed portion" by Nemelka.
Not a peep from hardly anyone, in fact words of praise, etc. But when I
post the devil is angry and the bees come up to sting.
Joshua's Test:
JUST WHAT I thought, nobody here responds to evil posts, just the
righteous ones.
Yes, I just play a little experiment upon this newsgroup.
I posted some evil posts, and it seems to agree with everyone, for no
one posted against me.
It is only when I post something good, that everyone here gets
alarmed.
Now I know what the prophet Art Bulla is going through, whenever he
posts revelations here.
They all come out to attack the prophet.
But whenever someone posts something evil, they say nothing about it.
Makes me wonder, just who everyone here really are. I thought it was a
mixed group, half good and half bad, but it appears to be 90 percent
evil.
Just my reflections but it is sure alarm someone now, because it is a
good post.
Joshua Israel
"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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> WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
>
>
>
>
Susan Cohen
> On 14 Mar 2005 16:02:02 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
> Harrington) wrote:
>
>> Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
>>will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies are
>>some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
>
> If that were true, then the Nazis were right about the Jews being out
> to get the Aryans.
>
> You are a really so stupid as a swine? For I have been warned that you
> have dishonored your race, because you have done more to justify
> anti-Semitic feelings with your stupid posts than the Germans are said
> to have done unjustly.
Thanks for proving that you are a racist bigot as well as a religious one.
To say nothing of *incredibly* stupid.
Susan
Riain Barton/ריעין ברתון
"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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: Spoken like a true Pharassee. All prophets are self-proclaimed, you
: >
:
:
RetroProphet
>When the Jews killed their king Jesus...
>
The New Testament accounts are such remarkably unreasonable
historical accounts when it comes to portraying Jews
that there can be no doubt that they were fabricated
by those who were far more interested in building a religion
that could work in a Roman-dominated world, and that meant
turning Judaism into a scapegoat for the new religion.
The Gospels allege that a major motive of the Jews
for coercing Pontius Pilate into killing Jesus was
their anger at Jesus for healing on the sabbath
(Mark 3:6; Matthew 12:14). Hyam Maccoby in his book
The Mythmaker: Paul and the Invention of Christianity,
writes that:
"It is an amazing fact that, when we consult the
Pharisee law books to find out what the Pharisees
actually taught about healing on the sabbath, we find
that they did not forbid it, and they even used the
very same arguments that Jesus used to show that it
was permitted. Moreover Jesus' celebrated saying,
"The sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath",
which has been hailed so many times as an epoch-making
new insight proclaimed by Jesus, is found almost word
for word in a Pharisee source, where it is used to
support the Pharisee doctrine that the saving of life
has precedence over the law of the sabbath."
This alone is all we need to know about how far the
Gospels can be trusted, and yet the New Testament is
utterly filled with scores of similar propaganda,
readily demonstrated as such.
You extreme Mormons are amazing. Your religion is based
upon the premise that "true" religion has been corrupted
and you're here to restore it, and yet you continuously
buy into the most cynically and heavily corrupted
religious tradition there is, Roman Catholicism, doing
exactly what they have always done: adding to and
embellishing their story of Jesus, and doing nothing
to correct the obviously concocted falsehoods that lie
at its core.
Pat Harrington
> Mobocracy. This is the design of the murderer Zoellner, et al. To have me
> killed. I do not fear death.
So what!
> Besides to die for Zion is glorious.
You don't know Zion and Zion does not know you.
> I have
> calmly looked down the barrel of a 38 pointed at my face, secure that God
> would preserve me from mobs and all those who fight against Zion.
Pissed people off before, have you? Somehow that doesn't surprise
me. Since death at the hand of a .38 calibre weapon used in the face
is almost certainly painless, it's nothing to be afraid of. YOU fight
against Zion by trying to preach rubbish to Jews!!!
>I am a
> lion.
If you spell lion T-W-I-T, then yes.
>I am not afraid of mobs. I fight with the pen, which is mightier than
> the sword anyhow.
Tell you what, I'll grab a sword, you get a pen. We'll see.
> I have faced them before as well.
LOL!! You sure do know how to engender love in people, then if
you've been confronted with mobs and swords and guns. You obviously
don't get it. People don't like you. Shove OFF!!
> Mobocracy is no way to
> get me to "go away".
Then what is? Please tell us so that we can rid ourselves of your
presence as you are strongly disliked.
> The way to do that is to convince me with reason and
> the truth, for I cringe before God whom I have seen, otherwise it is
> impossible, for I have the God-given right to preach the gospel to the
> foolish and depraved wherever God sends me.
And now you claim to have seen God and lived. Did God survive
seeing you? I could tell you the truth but it would fall on deaf
ears. I could tell you plainly that everything you see is but one
object. But you wouldn't listen. I could say clearly to you that
there is nothing BUT God that exists. But it is far beyond your
dualist mind to conceive of the unity of God.
> Here I stand, I cannot recant.
> All the prophets have been killed at the hands of mobs:
>
Was Elijah killed at the hands of a mob? You lie so badly. It's
unfortunate this IS your day job.
<snipped drivel>
Pat Harrington
> I give you fair warning, Jew, Mossad or no Mossad.
Yawn!
> I can raise my hand to
> heaven to curse them as well.
Curses come from God. If you are trying to convince people of your
sanity, then I should think by telling us that God does YOUR bidding
is NOT exactly working in your favour.
>I would rather reason with you as friends, for
> I truely do adore Jerusalem.
I'm sure you would, but because you missionise to those who don't
require it--as God would know--you make yourself an enemy.
> If you do not repent, the Arabs now held at
> bay, will be loosed upon you to utterly destroy you.
So you control the Arabs, do you? Puh-Leeez. Based on your response
to my gentle tweak, you can't even control your emotions. You are
such an obvious fake, it's truly unbelievable.
>You are preserved by
> the hand of God as a nation, and I rejoice in it, but if you cling to false
> doctrine, my God who will fight my battles will destroy you, you haughty
> Jew.
There is only one God. If you have another, then YOU are the
idolator.
> The Arabs are raised up by God to stir you up to repentance; you are
> protected by God as in a bubble and that protection will be withdrawn if
> you once more crucify your Messiah afresh.
>
The Messiah would not hide in a desert shack. You are not him.
Grow up and start taking a lot of thorazine; you are clearly
psychotic.
<snipped drivel>
Jong Kim
news:113bm9m...@news.supernews.com...
> Art Bulla wrote:
> > WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
>
>
> his wife and children and having been submitted for involuntary
> commitment as a madman by the authorities. Bulla is currently hiding out
> in a shack in Baja, Mexico like the coward he is. Before you read *his
> words*, you may wish to look at a photo of his shack, that he posted
> himself:
>
> Photo of Bulla's hideout shack [thnx to Kevin Zoellner for retrieving
> it]: http://home.comcast.net/%7Ek.zoellner/averyfinehouse.html
>
>
> NOW,
>
> *Bulla in his own words*:
>
>
> Sheriff's deputies came with handcuffs led by my brother in law, Clyde.
> My family had been stolen from me by boy scouts with pickup trucks,
> traiterous mother-in-law, suborned stake authorities, etc.
>
> [...]
>
> They brought me handcuffed for trial for involuntary commitmnet. I had
> flowers in one hand for my wife and candy for the children whom I had
> not seen in two weeks.
>
From the California shore to New York City
The beat don't never stop
You can hear it on the radio anywhere you go
It's steady as the rhythm of a clock
It cuts through the noise of the city life
It won't seem to go away
IT'S THE DEVIL IN DISGUISE I TELL YOU NO LIES
JJ Cale.
We have you documented as a perverse liar. Here are some direct quotes of
you:
#1 "The God of Christ is LOVE. God is Love."
#2 "So where's the Ark, fuckhead?"
#3 "Mr. Bulla and the LDS Church make up lots of words. Isn't it
delightsome?
Have you seen any cureloms or cumoms lately? They got the word elephant
right however. Too bad there weren't any, like Mr. Smith Junior claimed,
that existed in meso-america during the purported BOM times."
Elephant/mastodon bones have been found all over North America that the
Jaredites once inhabited, and you got that mixed up with the BoM's account
of the people of Lehi getting started in South America and going up to
Mesoamerica. Since Sadducees are foul mouthed and ignorant of the
scriptures, as Josephus testified, maybe you weren't deliberately lying
about Mesoamerica. But your above words clearly demonstrate that you do lie
about believing in the existence of God and having compassion for the
downtrodden of the earth. You might as well say Peter Pan is the Christ,
judging by your statement #1, coupled with your utter denial of the ark of
Noah in #2. I could even try to excuse you on the Book of Mormon containing
information on elephants in ancient North America before approx. 600 B.C.,
saying that well this John Manning is a sectarian. But your blasphemies
directed also against the Prophet Moses and the God of O.T., as if God is a
changeable being, for the God of O.T. is same as the God of N.T., show that
you are a shameless character continually blaspheming against the Holy Ghost
with glee and the basest liar, insincerely praising the Lord whom you loathe
by saying Christ is love in order to gain the praise of men. And you've also
advocated murdering me, a fellow from the land of Sinim (Isaiah 49:12, 1
Nephi 21:12), as the Spirit of revelation did testify to me last year while
reading Isaiah 49 (basically same revelation was received concerning me by
Art in the summer of 2000):
#4 "I don't think he'll 'get it', Dale. It might take professional help or
a brick to the side of his head from someone he actually manages to offend
who takes him for anything more than a rubber room candidate."
And you subsequently denied that's what you meant. Are you a liar or what?
Even Dale Broadhurst, who is a Latter-day Pharisee as you are a Latter-day
Sadducee, admitted that you basically ended up saying I should be killed. As
Jesus of Nazareth said, "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth
speaketh." You believe that God and Noah don't exist and believe in
evolution, but lie by saying Christ is love whatever that means to you or
anyone. You've openly advocated the destruction of Art Bulla and me, and lie
by denying that such was your intent concerning me. And you lie when you
deny that elephants and other peculiar animals inhabited ancient North
America, which is same as arguing with signposts. It's like saying 2+2=3 or
the Sun ain't shining when it's broad daylight.
And now you've twisted Art's words to mean something you desire that they
should mean, in order to keep people from believing in Israel's God and His
Eyewitness sent to this generation with all the keys and powers of the
Apostleship. And also, in hopes that your deeds here might help to bring
about the destruction of Art Bulla. I travelled with Art to North Carolina
in Dec. 2003 and met his parents and the rest of his family. It went well
except they again declined to yield to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He
travelled by himself back to North Carolina last November (2004). There's
nothing on him. He is not at all like a Brian Mitchell or a David Berg, all
false prophets who have destroyed lives. Nor is he like another type of
false prophet like a Billy Graham or a Sun Myung Moon. People like that
escape the fate of true prophets such as Joseph Smith and Art Bulla, which
is to be 'dissed' by their own people, most especially by their own family.
"For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own
country." John 4:44.
And I've received a revelation concerning Art and his wife:
5 ś Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the
doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her
mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies [are]
the men of his own house.
7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my
salvation: my God will hear me.
(Old Testament | Micah 7:5 - 7)
The Holy Ghost has already revealed me weeks ago that this passage from the
Book of Micah is a specific prophecy of the One Mighty and Strong, who is
Art Bulla. For Apostle Art had already told me that he made a mistake of
confiding to his wife about the true identity of Joseph Smith given him by a
revelation of Jesus Christ, and because of this she went over the edge (she
used this as a pretext to demonstrate that this shows Art is a mad man that
should be locked up in a hospital, but that's against the Constitution of
the United States -- the freedom of religion without impinging on other
people's rights), already under heavy pressure from her mother to divorce
him, who was hated of his haughty mother-in-law from the very beginning. At
that point, she was already weary of the continual insults and persecutions
that Art and his family had to endure because he against the wishes of her
and her control freak mother, dared to obey the Holy Ghost and actually
preach the pure religion of Jesus and Peter and Joseph and Brigham! In his
home state of North Carolina, every chance he had. The Lord knowing the end
from the beginning, had revealed his secret to his servant Micah, centuries
before it had actually occurred in time.
Now let me tell you more about *your* character. You defame and slander the
Lord's servant, because you have an axe to grind against the God of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob. But I tell the truth about your character, that you are a
filthy Gentile of a Danite disposition. The Lord said "By their fruits ye
shall know them", so I know by your evil words and works that you manifest
the character of Dan and of his temporally blessed seed. See, we are all of
a mixed heritage, south of the scriptural "north country"/"north countries"
where the lost tribes of Israel happily dwell. You have the blood of Ephraim
in you for sure, in the flesh. But that is not your dominant trait, which is
of Dan. And you've been overcome by your weaknesses in the flesh and the
devil took full advantage of it, so you are his servant now. Your spirit
housed in your body made a conscious decision to take the forbidden path.
It's your fault. Have been for a long time, a vessel reserved unto wrath.
See, this is what Dan did to his brother and leader, Joseph the father of
Manasseh and Ephraim:
1 And it came to pass, Joseph was in the desert seeking his brethren and
they seized upon him, and mocked him, saying: behold, our prince is come
unto us. Mayest thou live long, and may thy kingdom be forever!
2 And they worshipped him in mocking fashion, saying, have mercy on us O
king! Save us, O mighty one!
3 And they seized upon Joseph to kill him. And Dan drew his sword and thrust
it into the side of Joseph, howbeit it pierced not his flesh.
4 And all who stood by were astonished. And Reuben said, Verily, the Lord
hath surely chosen him, and the power of the Most High dwelleth with him.
5 Suffer not our hands to shed his blood, for his blood should surely cry up
to the Lord against us, and great would be the curse against our children
unto seven generations.
6 Yea, rather, let us cast him into a pit wherein he may perish for lack of
meat or may be eaten by wild beasts, and thus shall our hands be free of his
blood. And so they seized the tunic which Jacob had made for Joseph and cast
Joseph into a pit naked for to die.
Book of Joseph 5:1-6
The Book of Joseph, perhaps as controversial as the Book of Abraham among
some anti-Mormons, has been revealed unto Art that it verily is of the Lord,
and soon afterwards, the same Spirit confirmed it to me while praying. This
was about a year ago. (For now, however, it has not been canonized. Hardly
anybody accepts the BoA to begin with.) Also, the above passage is
consistent with a last days prophecy from the Old Testament (note verse 14
on Dan):
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will
cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear
day:
10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into
lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon
every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only [son], and the end
thereof as a bitter day.
11 ś Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in
the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the
words of the LORD:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the
east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not
find [it].
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth;
and, The manner of Beer-sheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise
up again.
(Old Testament | Amos 8:9 - 14)
Gold and silver and the praise of the world. Money, power, promiscuity,
self-exaltation. Idolatry. Yea, serving Mammon with all their might, mind
and strength. Build up the 'Tower of Babylon' once again.
Like Dan, you desire to destroy Joseph and his seed, but you will find out
to your everlasting shame that it's not going to be.
Even the greatest of Danites, yea Samson who is verily the inspiration for
the Grecian myth of Hercules, erred grievously, over and over (at least he
performed the ultimate sacrifice). Couldn't handle his blessings, being
oft-times spiritually corrupt. Mingled his seed with the Philistine woman,
yea even Cain. This is a cursed tribe of Israel, and in fact the members
thereof shall find themselves cast out at last (making it no higher than the
terrestrial resurrection), if they do not repent of their follies and of
their pride and join themselves wholeheartedly to the house of Joseph,
Ephraim being the birthright tribe of Israel. Revelation 7:4-8 passage shows
that in the end, the black sheep tribe of Dan shall definitely *not* be
accounted one of the twelve tribes of Israel, being replaced by the tribe of
Manasses (Manasseh), the brother of Ephraim.
19 Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs: bright iron,
cassia, and calamus, were in thy market.
(Old Testament | Ezekiel 27:19)
Javan was one of the sons of Japheth, and from the seed of Javan arose the
great Gentile nation of the Greeks, and the idolatrous tribe of Dan
successively wandered away from their Hebrew brethren and migrated all over
Europe, mingling with the Gentile nations thereof. The Spartans in
particular were ruled by people of Danite origin (evidenced in Josephus's
record), and hence their temporal greatness for a season. The great Don
River of Russia and the great Danube River of Germany. The fact that the
Greek army is often called the Danaans in The Iliad. The nation of Denmark
which means the mark of Dan. Notice a pattern? The Spanish title of Don I
wonder about too, as well as the particular brutality of the Normans in
their dealings with their conquered Saxon brethren in Angleland. You do what
comes natural to you, and the natural man is an enemy to God, as you often
openly acknowledge your intense hatred of the ways of Jehovah and His
anointed Moses (as well as Joseph and Art), and then turn around and
insincerely say that Christ is love, whatever that means. And did not some
of the Macedonian successors of Alexander the Great severely persecute the
nation of the Jews? Thank God the vigorous nation of Scipio Africanus, even
Rome, eventually subjugated the Greek states, though there were still many
good denizens of Grecia remaining, such as are anti-Manning in spirit. To be
anti-Manning is to be anti-Satan.
#5 "I'm Irish. Bulla is a racist hatemonger."
You say you are of Irish origin and that may be one true statement you've
made (not the second sentence of #5), but did you know that the seed of Dan
is also found in Ireland as well?
17 Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher
continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.
(Old Testament | Judges 5:17)
"As I have said before, the Tuatha de Danaan were the best and the
brightest - the fairest of all people. They were said to have arrived in
Ireland, not in ships but on dark clouds so that it was believed they had
descended from the heavens."
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7841/tuatha.html
Sorry, not totally scriptural, as the Prophet Art Bulla has taught me this:
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I
will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein
they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim [is] my
firstborn.
(Old Testament | Jeremiah 31:9)
Tuatha De Danaan
PLURAL NOUN: The pre-Christian gods of Ireland, sometimes represented as
heroes or fairies. ETYMOLOGY:Old Irish, tribes of the goddess Dana : tuatha,
pl. of túath, people, tribe + dé, genitive of, goddess + Danaan, genitive of
Dana, Dana (Celtic mother goddess).
http://www.bartleby.com/61/88/T0398850.html
Mmm ... hmm ... a pagan Greek-like idolatry, yes the very idolatry
characteristic of the tribe of Dan, who tried vainly to murder Joseph of the
coat of many colours. Yeah, he pulled the 'trigger', didn't he? But the God
of Jacob had other plans. And Joseph forgave him and his other brethren in
Egypt!
"To err is human, to forgive, divine." Alexander Pope.
"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of
these [is] charity." Apostle Paul. (1 Corinthians 13:13)
"Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a
good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned:" Apostle Paul. (1 Timothy 1:5)
The seed of Jesus Christ were spirited away into Ireland by His Apostles,
and from this holy seed has sprung the Prophets Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith,
Art Bulla. John Manning, you are the chaff, a Latter-day Sadducee. You were
born into a LDS stock, and you've definitely *evolved* as a LDS, even unto
death.
23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
(New Testament | Romans 6:23)
I do judge you most unkindly for your evils. I have charity for all mankind
as is required of me by God, but no charity for devils. Indeed, it would be
sin to have charity for devils. "No Sympathy for the Devil". You are a
devil. You make Mick Jagger look like a saint. At least he is no hypocrite.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after
me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize
you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and
gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with
unquenchable fire.
(New Testament | Matthew 3:11 - 12)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be
sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
--
"I'm the devil in disguise I tell you no lies." JJ Cale the Okie
Troubadour.
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Jong Kim
> [...]
>
> Now after I had made my escape from the clutches of those evil men and
> women, I made my way back to my in Randolph Co., N.C. (we had a
> farmhouse which we heated in the winter by burning walnut cut offs from
> the furniture factories in High Point) and I had no money. And the
> spirit whispered for me to flee, for there was no mercy there, no one to
> turn to, and I took my wife's sewing machine to a second hand store in
> Greensboro for gas money.
>
> The Lord was in it for I made instant friends with the owner who was my
> age, and he stood out on the main street of Greensboro, and pointed to a
> building and said, "See that building? I own that building", it was
> about fifteen stories high. He pointed to several more, and said, "That
> one is full of refrigerators", etc. He said, he was a millionaire and
> that he was not as happy as when he had no money.
>
> He considered my plight for I told him of my wife and mother-in-law and
> the Mormons hunting me like some kind of deer.
>
> And he said that he had a truck and he would come with me at night and
> load up all the goods in the house and he offered to pay me a sum of
> money which would enable me to flee the state. I instantly accepted,
> for the goods were mine, and I did not regard any court has the right to
> dictate me in my family affairs, despite what the gentile mammon
> believes, and he and I loaded up everything except what I could carry in
> my car which was a Triumph Gt 6 hatchback. He drove the truck back to
> Greensboro when we had completed this.
>
> My wife stole the book of remembrance and I took the genealogy and the
> journal and a few other items and began camping out. Well they could
> not find me, and I decided to give Cathy one more chance, for we were
> very close and I just could not understand her betrayal (she took issue
> with the revelation I received on my Messiahship which I can explain if
> given the chance) and invented all sorts of lies about me subsequently
> even to my five children.
>
> Well the spirit told me to go to Utah, and I determined to leave
> that next morning. Well, the court put out a warrant for my arrest for
> contempt, and the spirit had whispered to me to camp out in Guilford
> Co., which I did, and they could not find me. Well I was leaving for the
> Tennessee border the next morning and I thought, well I would call her
> on[e] last time, and she said, in her old manner, "Let's talk"
>
> My heart lept for joy, I was such a fool. She said for me to meet her at
> old Carl's Grocery Story on Highway 220, at 10:00 pm.
>
> Carl was such a great friend and I was going to baptize him in a farm
> pond near there, where I had done other baptisms and will always love
> him for what he did, which I will later explain. Well,
>
> I was driving in my low slung green Triumph GT6 with wire wheels and an
> in-line six with two zenith-strombug carbeurators, to the appointment,
> when an audible voice above my head spoke in a clear voice and said,
> "They have the sheriff after you".
>
> I was completely duped to that point, Cathy knowing just how to speak to
> me on the phone, the right tone of voice, the words, etc.
>
> The scales of course then fell from my eyes, and I realized the danger I
> was in. The voice then commanded park the British sports car "behind
> that tree", which was situated almost directly across the highway from
> Carl's, and it was a bushy fern, which I obeyed. Well Cathy and her
> mother showed up at the appointed time, and Clara had a towel wrapped
> around her head.
>
> Cathy was driving and the first thing she said was "Where
> is you car?" I immediately said "You have the sheriff after me and we
> will have to go somewhere else, if you want to talk."
>
> Clara then said "would I be dressed like this, referring to the towel,
> if I was going to talk to the sheriff?" So her mother must have thought
> "This guy is smarter than I believed" for she always took me to be a
> simpleton as she did all men, commanded Cathy (Cathy had been in slavery
> to her mother before I met her, her mother had ruined three of her own
> marriages, and now wanted to ruin mine) to get out of the car and "talk
> to him".
>
> As I looked over Cathy's shoulder into the highway, I immediately saw
> three sheriff's patrol cars shoot past and they went to the wrong store
> a little down the highway, and realizing their mistake, for they saw us,
> turned around with lights and spots ablaze.
>
> Cathy's mother then jumped out of the car and pointed at me, "There he
> is! There he is!" I remember she still had the towel wrapped around her
> head, as they began their turn into Carl's small parking lot. Terror, of
> course seized me, and I sprang into action, and turned and ran for the
> woods above the railroad tracks behind Carl's Store, and hurtled
> pell mell straight into the thickest blackberry patch I had ever
> experienced in my life, for I had grown up in North Carolina, and used
> to pick blackberries for a pie my mother would make. They seemed to
> frequent railroad tracks a lot,
>
> and the over-weight sheriff's deputies balked at chasing me on foot,
> especially into the fearsome patch, and one of my relatives, a Bulla,
> was the Chief of Police in Asheboro.
>
> I finally reached the tracks I knew were there and crouched down and
> watched and waited apprehensively. They congregated milled about, and
> began searching for my car, for if they found it, they would have had me
> dead to rights, for this was a rural area. Their spotlights searched
> high and low, and the beams occasionaly would point crazily up in the air.
>
> Then my great friend Carl (who stood over six feet) came out of his
> store and in a loud voice which I could distinctly hear pierced the
> night air, and commanded to the crowd, "Get off of my property! Now!"
> which they then did.
>
> They searched for three hours for my Triumph, even though it was just
> across the street!
>
> When they finally gave up, and all was calm and deserted, with my heart
> in my throat, I made my way down to the highway and bolted across it,
> jumped in my Triumph, and was across the Tennessee state line a few
> hours later.
>
> I stopped at a pay phone and tried to call Cathy, for I was still in
> love with her, and she just hung up on me without saying a word. So I
> was delivered by the hand of the Lord, that I could sing my song and
> publish peace and say upon the mountains to Zion, "Thy God reigneth!"
>
> So that is the true story of my "desertion".
>
> Brigham Young "deserted" his wife and children on a sick bed to go to
> England on a mission, and my mission was to the decrepit and corrupt
> Mormons to try to reclaim them from the bondage of Babylon the Great
> to build Zion.
>
> Jesus "deserted" his wives and children to be hung on a piece of wood,
> worse than a common thief. If that is "desertion" so be it, for I love
> the Kingdom of God and its righteousness more than my life or even my
> children, though I wept many times over their situation.
>
> Eliza left home many times because the Mormons stole her from me, and
> she will today have nothing to do with the enlightened Mormons mob who
> robbed me of my family.
>
> See the Google Archive of his post here:
> http://tinyurl.com/6xlkf
Pat Harrington
> Harrington) wrote:
>
> > Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
> >will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies are
> >some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
>
> If that were true, then the Nazis were right about the Jews being out
> to get the Aryans.
>
Do you appreciate the Nazis? His/Your prophecies are extremly
poor. I challenged Art Bulla to describe for me in on word what
exactly was "the Foundation of the World". For a true prophet, this
would be easy; he has not attempted it. He is a fake.
> You are a really so stupid as a swine?
Cleverly couched statement. I don't think I could dare comment on
such eloquence.
> For I have been warned that you
> have dishonored your race, because you have done more to justify
> anti-Semitic feelings with your stupid posts than the Germans are said
> to have done unjustly.
>
You don't know me at all.
> Is that what you are saying, to the Latter-day Saints, that you want
> to justify German actions?
>
What I would say to the LDS people is, "Get a clue!". Joe Smith
was just another sham. There were no golden tablets, he made it up.
> Are you saying that Hitler was on a mission to punish the Jews for
> Jesus Christ?
>
Moot point. Are you saying that? Do you think that this line of
questioning is going to endear you or your cause to Jewish people?
> What a stupid person you are?
IQ in the 99th percentile. What's yours?
>If that is what you think. For Jesus is
> a man of love.
>
Really? How many lovers did he have?
> Hate has no justification, and you're a good example of one who breeds
> hate.
>
But it is hate that spews from you.
> Don't you have any wise person to learn from? Do you not understand,
> that the serpent will never lose its demon-venom, if you continue to
> persecute it forever, for hatred brews hatred among the people.
>
This passage has little meaning. What serpent? If a man tries to
NOT speak plainly, you can bet he's trying to hide something.
> Now the intelligent Jews are friends to Mormons, because they know who
> their friends are, and like Israeli Intelligence Agencies (Mossad)
> they would not be fooled by the like of you. For Mossad knows that
> Mormon Church paid for the first ships that brought the Jews back to
> their homeland after World War II.
>
But that has nothing to do with Art Bulla. Stick to the subject.
> Also if you had known anything about my English family, you would have
> known that it was my family that help win the war against the Germans.
> My family was shipbuilders and our ships were use too win the war, and
> help save your Jewish butt. Yes, we built more than thirteen hundred
> vessels. [Cook, Welton & GEMMELL Shipbuilders of Hull and Beverley
> 1883-1963, Michael Thompson, Hutton Press 1999]
>
You once again demonstrate your command of the English language.
You claim to be English; but, your grammar and spelling show that you
are not.
> And it if I were to search my family history, I would not be surprise
> if I found out that some of my family's ships brought the Israeli back
> to the land of Israel.
>
You can invent whatever history you want to.
> I don't think you are Jewish, because Jews are not dumb like you, and
> it is my Jewish blood that burns with righteous indignation, when I am
> confront by a self-hating Jew. Have you no pride?
>
So you are an English, non-English, Jewish Mormon? What?
Nutter!! Have you no shame?
> Also, I would not be surprise if you were one of the evil frogs now
> working with Gog.
Are you calling me a toady? So, who is this Gog bloke? I would
not be surprised to find out you've an IQ of about 70.
> For like Hitler who had Jewish blood, but respected
> his mother's doctor who was a Jew, he was a self-hating Jew. And you
> do the same works.
Are you accusing me of genocide?
>Yes, even like President Vladimir Putin who has
> Jewish ancestry, but hates the Jews. What a self-hating Jew Putin is,
> but are your out follow his lead. Yes, birds of a feather do flock
> together.
>
Yes, we flock together so much, I've never met the man.
> Now, if you are not a self-hating Jew, why all the contradictions
> coming from you?
>
Name one contradiction.
> Yes, is it because the most loving person whoever walked this earth
> was Jesus Christ, and this burns you up, for you are another
> self-hating Jew, like the ones who had the Jewish Jesus murdered.
>
I'm SO glad you've convinced yourself.
> Yes, royal Jewish bloodlines have always been cursed by self-hating
> Jews like you, for they hated Jesus who was of royal Jewish blood, for
> he was from the House of David.
Jesus' mother was a Levite. If his father was God, as you
purport, he was NOT from Judah.
> When the Jews killed their king Jesus,
There was no recognition of this title whatsoever. It was only used
in mockery by Pilate.
> the temple veil was rent and torn in two,
Hearsay.
> for the glory of God's
> Spirit was no longer found within the Jewish temple, and the Jew could
> no longer hold on to holy ground. And ever since that day, the Jewish
> dream of another temple, but God's Spirit was no longer found among
> the self-hating Jews.
>
Again, you've convinced yourself. Fascinating.
> Now, since God is no longer inside the Jewish temple, why should
> anyone be alarm to know that God doesn't work with the Jewish
> leadership either; because they need a holy temple to have guidance
> from God, to bring them out of danger.
>
God is everywhere. There is no place that He is not.
> By your fruit you are known today, you past work will save you, and
> you do not the works of an intelligent person, but the works of a
> self-hating Jew, and the Prophet Isaiah warned the Jews that those
> seeking their destruction would emerge out of their own midst.
>
Many tablets you should seek.
> Self-hating Jews support the enemies of the Jewish People because THEY
> TOO are enemies of the Jewish People!
>
If the Jews on this forum tell me I am their enemy, I will go
away. They know me better than you know me. To them, this is
incredibly obvious.
> And if you are not a self-hating Jew, then you are worse than an enemy
> to the Jews because you are stupid, and a stupid friend is worst than
> an enemy.
>
Since you don't know me, yet you condemn me; what does that make
you?
> Don't you know who your friends are?
>
I know that there are levels of friendship. You try to convert
those who need no conversion. This is not the work of a friend. I
ask you, do you know how to be friendly?
> Why does so this utter madness spring forth from a "progressive Jew?"
>
Perhaps because you have misjudged me as being Jewish. I will be
Jewish because it is the right thing for me. You do what YOU want,
unless it impedes on the way other's would like to live.
> Are you in the habit of kicking your friends, and kiss your enemies?
>
Are you in the habit of asking silly rhetorical questions?
> If you were intelligent, you would want a king to rule Israel, and
> build you temple.
>
When the time is right, if these things are to happen, then they
will; in that, I have perfect faith.
> Also, it is another historical fact that it was the LDS CHURCH that
> sent one of their Apostles to bless and dedicate the land of Israel
> for the return of the Jews; ten years before the Jews return to
> Israel. Yes, after this Latter-day Saint Apostle blessed the land of
> Israel for the return of the Jews, ten years later, they returned.
>
So, basically, there's no link between the two events.
> Therefore you are stupid about historical facts, but then there has
> always been, self-hating fools like you.
>
I certainly have little or no understanding about your invented
linked events. It's a bit like saying, "An LDS man once cursed and
spat in the sea and several years later a wave came up and washed
someone away." If a tree lands on an LDS man in the woods, does the
LDS man make a sound?
> Joshua Israel Gemmell [Zech. 3 speaks of ME, go learn who I am, I am
> the hope of Israel.]
>
Let me guess, you're the one being rebuked near the beginning?
Pat Harrington
It's nice of you to rate yourself so highly. What was it that
Jesus said, "He who would be first will be last and the last first."
You place yourself in the role of the Dragon who gives power to the
Beast. Art's prophecies have led you astray and you now serve that
which you would be horrified by. Art Bulla would NEVER be made King
of Israel. He would have to be able to prove himself a natural born
Jew, which he is not, and he would have to be annointed by a prophet
that all Israel recognises. Airy-fairy pipe-dreams. Wake up and
smell the stench of putrid lies that fall like so much rot from the
Beast Bulla.
Pat Harrington
> Pat Harrington wrote:
> > "Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
> news:<ecpb319oc6sruqi24...@4ax.com>...
> > > Yes, why do I, [Joshua Israel] always call the prophet, revelator,
> and
> > > seer Art Bulla, "Great",
> >
> >
> > My bet is that YOU are actually Art Bulla logged on as someone
> > else. Old trick. Very tired.
> >
>
> Nope he is *real* enuff alright. For a sycophant
> of Lord Artemis Bulla.
>
> . 666
>
Have you seen a picture of the two together? I've seen a picture
of Mr. Bulla; do you know of one of the one who makes himself the
dragon to Art's Beast?
> > > II=3D=3DII=3D=3DII=3D=3D=3D=3DiIIIi=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DII=3D=3DII=3D=3DII
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > III
> > > [[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]
> > > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
> > > [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
> > >
> > > The Star of David is the Great King, The Lord Our Righteousness,
> our
> > > Prophet Art Bulla, The BRANCH. On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:00:27 -0800,
> > >
> > >
> > > "Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The way that I am going to say the words that I speak is very
> important,
> > > >in that many are the misconceptions about a prophet, what he looks
> like,
> > > >talks like, don't the people in general recognize the Lord's
> annointed by
> > > >the way he ap=ADpears, the way he carries himself? Joseph Smith's
>
> > > >grandfather said of him, "he writes like a prophet." Paul, we
> understand,
> > > >was of short stat=ADure, about five foot two, and bandy or
> bowlegged, and had
> > > >a hawkish Roman or Jewish nose, but eyes which pierced through to
> eternity.
> > > >I have seen as Paul, for I too have "come to visions and
> revelations of the
> > > >Lord" for I could not tell if I was in my body or out when I
> conversed with
> > > >him face to face quickened by such power the tongue cleaves to the
> roof of
> > > >the mouth and stops for the inadequacy. Joseph was and is a true
> prophet,
> > > >for a short time after my first vision, I was given a copy of the
> book which
> > > >he translated. I bear record, and get over it if you can, that I
> have seen
> > > >and heard for myself, and have been sent as Joseph prophesied that
> I would
> > > >come, having the keys of the Priesthood by lineage and by right,
> being
> > > >accounted a direct descendant by blood of the kingdom, being a
> direct
> > > >descen=ADdant of David, given from before the foundation of the
> world as a
> > > >king and a priest as a witness, for I have seen and I have heard
> things
> > > >which are truely beyond the power of mere words to express,
> while in
> > > >the spirit, for the things of God "knoweth no man, but by the
> Spirit of
> > > >God".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have received a complete volume of scripture for this
> generation, as
> > > >others (Isaiah, Samuel, Joseph, Ezekial, Nephi, etc.) have for
> theirs. I
> > > >testify boldly it is the truth, for I have received it from God,
> and as Paul
> > > >"preached the gosple" with much contention, even so I am not
> afraid of a
> > > >little contention also, for the warfare, has it not been
> transferred to the
> > > >earth, and only the "best men bring forth the best works"? I fear
> noth=ADing,
> > > >except the might and power of the Being who spoke unto me in the
> vision,
> > > >which was of such power that I spoke with him in a tongue which
> was at once
> > > >more magnificent in its command of the things of the spirit and
> the
> > > >intelligence of of light and truth than English with its lack of
> vocabulary
> > > >can express, and I shall forever adore his presence, and my bones
> truely
> > > >quake at the power manifested when I receive even now revelations
> from him,
> > > >for he is a God of glory as Moses exclaimed, "Where is thy glory
> that I
> > > >should worship thee, depart from me, for where is thy glory,
> Satan, that I
> > > >should worship thee? For except I were quickened by his power, I
> should
> > > >have withered in his presence." And my natural eyes could not have
> beheld,
> > > >and my life has hung in the bal=ADance many times, as Paul said,
> "why stand we
> > > >in jeapordy every hour, if there be no resurrection?" And as
> Joseph my
> > > >brother whom I love more than my life, for with such brethren we
> could have
> > > >taken the world from the despots of the enemies of the dispersed
> of Israel,
> > > >for the God of Is=ADrael, saith the Lord, is he not a God of
> battles? I have
> > > >seen that Jesus was a war=ADrior of the first rank, and as Joseph
> was chased
> > > >like a hart upon the mountains by the world with hell at its back,
> even so
> > > >have I, Art Bulla, and I lie not, for since my first vision, all
> hell has
> > > >been stirred up against me but I have been delivered from them
> all, that I
> > > >might sing my song, and publish salvation upon the mountains as
> prophesied,
> > > >for I testify that God, the God of Isaiah lives, for I have seen
> him and
> > > >tasted of such might, brilliance and power and honor and
> intelligence the
> > > >tongue cannot express it, for was I not removed out of this
> tabernacle and
> > > >taken up with him for a glorious space and I beheld?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And as Paul was led to Ananias to receive baptism, even so
> was I led
> > > >by my God to the Elders of the Church of Jesus Christ, for as
> there was a
> > > >controversy embroiling men of intelligence and sagacity of the
> time on the
> > > >subject of religion, whether God should be worshipped in
> Je=ADrusalem in the
> > > >Temple, or on top of a mountain in Samaria, for they were of
> Ephraim and did
> > > >they not have the birthright? But Jesus, the Lord's (for the Lord
> said unto
> > > >my Lord, sit thou upon my right hand, until I have made my enemies
> thy
> > > >footstool) annointed son, but only firstborn among many brethren,
> as I also,
> > > >have been with him from the beginning so testify, salvation cometh
> of the
> > > >Jews, even so I say, salva=ADtion cometh, (and there is a second
> death) and I
> > > >say it boldly with all the world opposing me, salvation did come
> by the
> > > >Latter- Day-Saints, for I received baptism, by entering through
> the gate
> > > >which is truely straight and narrow and the next day being filled
> with such
> > > >might and joy and power I went boldly forth among the soldiers,
> and was not
> > > >a Green Be=ADret, over six foot in height, was he not picked up off
> his feet
> > > >and set on his back by the angel of the Holy One of Israel, who is
> mightier
> > > >than all of the armies of the earth? I say, as that sargent of
> the Green
> > > >Beret at=ADtempted to play a prank behind my back, the angel
> defended my
> > > >honor, and that I might be free to declare the message of
> salvation, picked
> > > >the man off his feet effortlessly, and thrust him upon the floor
> unhurt.
> > > >And so I have seen and bear record that Joseph Smith was the
> Lord's
> > > >an=ADnointed and I am he who should come to redeem Israel by power
> such as has
> > > >not been seen since Enoch if the people will gather and receive
> counsel from
> > > >the God who is speaking now through my mouth unto thee O Israel,
> for I am he
> > > >who should come, even as spoken by Isaiah and Joseph Smith unto
> whom
> > > >belongeth the kingdom by lineage and by right, having the sealing
> power
> > > >committed unto me, I have been ap=ADpointed at the gate for this
> genera=ADtion
> > > >as Peter, and all power on earth or in heaven hath it not also
> been given
> > > >unto that One mighty and strong, O man, and none of this
> generation, who I
> > > >testify to will pass by me for judgment hath it not been committed
> unto me,
> > > >O man, and O woman, from before the foundation of the world, and
> have I not
> > > >been sent as him of old unto the Jews, who is my brother, even
> Jesus
> > > >surnamed the Christ? And did not the Jews reject him, and if ye
> make the
> > > >same mis=ADtake as they, O Israel, it shall be to thy peril, for my
> God, the
> > > >God who spoke out of the heavens to the Master-Sargent, who was
> cursing the
> > > >Mormons to my face, as I opened my mouth to speak, did not a voice
> proceed
> > > >forth which shook the ground upon which we three stood, and did
> not those
> > > >brave men of the army of the United States not hear and see for
> them=ADselves,
> > > >and my God is mightier than any mere arm of flesh or any nuclear
> tipped
> > > >weapon, for his power is it not mine to wield for thy salvation, O
> Israel,
> > > >if ye will come unto me, even I, who art mighty and strong from
> before the
> > > >foundation of the world, through him who strengtheneth me?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Again, I say that I am receiving revelation upon such topics
> as
> > > >evo=ADlution, Adam-God, negro-priest=ADhood, and many other
> deceptions
> > > >prac=ADticed upon the ignorant Gentiles by the father of lies,
> exposing the
> > > >fraud thereof to the whole world, and if the whole world disregard
> me in my
> > > >message they will only sink them=ADselves to endless woes and
> destruction, for
> > > >did not the entire Roman world ignore not only Jesus, but the
> entire Jewish
> > > >nation, even though "salvation cometh of the Jews" as salvation
> in this day
> > > >until the Negro-priesthood revelation, did it not also come of the
>
> > > >Latter-Day-Saints and has not the world also disregarded them as
> it so far
> > > >has me to their peril, for their salvation hangeth upon the thread
> of the
> > > >surge of life which beats within my breast to the glory of the
> Most High
> > > >God? And is not my glory in the world to come greater for having
> endured
> > > >the shame of the cross also? Therefor disregard not these things
> and turn
> > > >not aside the just for a thing of naught as do the Gentile dogs,
> as Jesus
> > > >would have said, which rough things which he spake of=ADfended his
> smooth
> > > >contemporaries that they rid themselves of one so un=ADcouth as to
> openly
> > > >speak truth. And in 1979, did I not receive my first written
> revelation,
> > > >the keys of the Priesthood given unto my by or=ADdina=ADtion, and
> the Lord gave
> > > >me further instructions, and I was, as a testi=ADmony commanded to
> take two of
> > > >them (written revelations) to that man who was given as my
> home=ADteacher,
> > > >as they are called, my patiently be=ADing in the Church until that
> point, and
> > > >my hometeacher in an enraged fury, tried to kill me for my
> impertinence at
> > > >having claimed what was fact, nonetheless, despite his fury. And
> though my
> > > >nose was broken, I did receive another revelation that very night
> stating
> > > >that his servants had been treated in just this way in all ages of
> the
> > > >world, and was not Je=ADsus crucified by such rage as that
> manifes=ADted at that
> > > >time. And thus through the spirit, I had seen Satan with his
> chains had
> > > >blinded the minds of the Latter-Day-Saints, and they had become
> more
> > > >estranged and hardened than the world which they were attempting
> to save.
> > > >And is that man of sin, is he not revealed by these words also?[1]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am including some of the Revelations which I have received
> for your
> > > >perusal as was given unto the people of old by that One who spoke
> unto the
> > > >prophets of Israel, even so hath he spoken in these last days unto
> that One
> > > >mighty and strong whose feet, are they not beautiful upon the
> mountains, and
> > > >who pub=ADlisheth peace, and saith unto Zion thy God, doth he not
> yet
> > > >reign[1]? Even so judge ye, for with what judg=ADment ye judge,
Pat Harrington
> I would suggest that you watch where -you- point
> that fickle finger. "DAMN" is an awfully BIG *word*.
> You don't point a loaded gun at somebody do -you-?
>
> Aim it at inanimate objects or words that don't mean
> as much, but whatever -you- do, don't "damn" any part of G-ds
> creation. Too many people doin that already.. ..think before
> -you- blast something!
>
>
Fine, I could have said "shucks". God knows my intentions. I
wasn't saying to damn anyone. I was just saying, "Golly, Guy, I was
going to say that." No actual words were spoken either. And I'm not
that superstitious. The fence around the Torah is very high in some
places.
John Manning
Jong Kim
> Art Bulla wrote:
> > Zoellner is a murderer, saith the Lord.
>
>
> Kevin Zoellner is a patriotic American Marine, and a sincere Mormon that
> sees that you're nuts like everyone else does.
Yeah ... right. And 2+2=5. And Peter Pan is the Christ.
"I'm the devil in disguise I tell you no lies." JJ Cale.
This delightsome rhyme by Cale should be on your epitaph.
Kevin threatened to kill Art and me in 2001 right here on
alt.religion.mormon with his own bare hands saying he's big and strong and
this and that, a retired Marine, blah blah blah. Then the Spirit of God gave
me a revelation: "You are a murderer, saith the Lord." Art was sitting
right next to me. When I experienced that, it was a direct testimony of how
Art as the Lord's anointed receives written revelations. This process of
communication with the region of lights is real, more real than anything
else. Joseph Smith described it this way:
6 Yea, thus saith the still small voice, which whispereth through and
pierceth all things, and often times it maketh my bones to quake while it
maketh manifest, saying:
7 And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and
strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a
covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels
shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to
arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the
names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the
law of God;
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 85:6 - 7)
Art Bulla, by the way, happens to be that "one mighty and strong" prophesied
by Joseph the Seer. Going back, one time later that year in 2001, Art was
typing an email to an investigator named Gerald Kloss, and he started
receiving a word of the Lord concerning Gerald, and as Art typed "the
household of faith", the Holy Ghost testified in my heart.
Journal of Discourses, Vol.12, Pg.334, George Albert Smith, November 15,
1868
When we read the Book of Mormon it was a key to unlock the scriptures to our
understandings; while perusing its pages, light burst upon our minds, and in
this way the Book of Mormon revealed to us the light of the Gospel which
before had seemed obscure.
36 If thy whole body therefore [be] full of light, having no part dark, the
whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth
give thee light.
(New Testament | Luke 11:36)
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn,
and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of
God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:19 - 21)
Going back to Kevin Zoellner, this guy is one bad dude. He's a murderer, as
Art and I can both attest by the Spirit of God. That's why he's mostly quiet
now a days. He used to be real loudmouthed on a.r.m. against us, but weeks
after the twin testimonies issued forth from us, he protested somewhat and
then started to get more and more quiet. He's probably shitting in his
pants, thinking how did this gook find out about me? Well, it wasn't me man,
it's the Lord giving me intelligence and to Art, his beloved servant, even
Messiah to Ephraim and Manasseh. The Lord has not yet revealed Art any
details on what Mr. Zoellner did, but it's sure to be something horrific.
"I'm the devil in disguise I tell you no lies." JJ Cale.
This delightsome rhyme by Cale should be on the epitaphs of both Mr. Manning
and Mr. Zoellner.
> He simply kept a photo of
> your *hideout from US law* that you posted yourself. You spit on US law
> just to save your sorry chickenshit ass - just like you spit on your
> wife and children when you abused them.
>
No, Art Bulla is not in any trouble with the law. Instead, it was always him
getting robbed by thieves that look like nice Ephraim Mormon boys, well
"devils in disguise" as they say, purloining his electric generators up in
the Rocky Mountains. What's he got to worry about? He's always obeyed the
commandment of the Lord as follows:
21 Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of
God hath no need to break the laws of the land.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 58:21)
The moral of the story
You better watch where you go
The moral of the story, boy
You better watch out where you go
They'll get you in the morning
They'll get you at night
Some, they want to rob you
But most, they want to fight
This town I live in, I got to go
JJ Cale.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being
deceived.
(New Testament | 2 Timothy 3:12 - 13)
>
> > So-called Mormon allying himself
> > with an enemy of Joseph Smith!
>
>
> Smith was a documented con-artist [Kirtland Bank fraud], liar [Polygamy]
> and lech [threatened women with divine retribution if they didn't have
> sex with him].
>
Dude, the Kirtland Bank deal didn't go well, but some of the so-called
saints were responsible for screwing it up. Joseph Smith should not be
blamed as if he were some kind of a David Berg or a Brian Mitchell. Joseph
has nothing in common with these evil doers.
Another lie:
"Smith ... [threatened women with divine retribution if they didn't have sex
with him]." John Manning the Sadducee, whose mojo definitely ain't workin'
no more.
>
> > All combine to persecute me.
>
>
> You live in an imaginary paranoid world that doesn't exist. You're not
> connected to reality. You belong in a rubber room as the authorities
> have indicated AND your insane posts continue to justify.
>
Dude, this hypocrite Manning don't believe in no freedom of speech!
Sadducee.
>
> "They brought me handcuffed for trial for involuntary commitment."
> ~ Art Bulla [in his *own words*], for abusing his wife and children
>
Art Bulla has never abused his wife and children. I should know. I drove him
to Carolina in December 2003, for Pete's sake! I met his family. They just
don't believe in the religion of heaven, that is the problem. They once
again declined to read the Book of Mormon. Delightsome folks, though. Wait a
minute, Alex Pogossov is right. Art Bulla got brown eyes. He don't got no
green eyes. Peter Pan is the Christ indeed! 2+2=5! I testify of it!!! No!!!
2+2=3!!! Eureka!!!!!!!! Art Bulla's eyes are brown! I have found the
truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > All you have
> > against me is the house I live in!
>
>
> No, Bulla. You ran away from the law after having abused your wife and
> children - like the coward that you are. You were about to be committed
> as the psychopath that you are. You have no respect for the laws of the
> USA. You're a criminal on-the-run, and hiding out in Mexico because you
> are a coward.
>
> 'Prophet of God'??? What a joke!!!
>
>
> [snip nonsense]
>
Bullshit, like I've already demonstrated.
"I don't think he'll 'get it', Dale. It might take professional help or a
brick to the side of his head from someone he actually manages to offend who
takes him for anything more than a rubber room candidate." John Manning
calling for a Kevin Zoellner to murder me.
45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that
which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart
bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his
mouth speaketh.
(New Testament | Luke 6:45)
--
5 ś Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the
doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her
mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies [are]
the men of his own house.
7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my
salvation: my God will hear me.
(Old Testament | Micah 7:5 - 7)
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
DumberThanSnot
at all
> the angry bees! This must be some kind of record! I may leap and
shout for
> joy, for so perecuted they the prophets before me!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=persecute
1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race,
religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.
2. To annoy persistently; bother.
Are you feeling oppressed? Harassed? Feeling like we have ill-treated
you? Wahhhh! Grow up! Maybe turn the other cheek like Jesus told
you to do. Nah.. that would mean you would actually have to act like a
real prophet... and we couldn't have that now could we?
BTW: the prophets before you had people who loved them and spoke well
of them also... more than 3 people like you. President Kimball and
the prophets before and after him also had and still have MANY more
people speaking great things of them than ill. Even people who are not
mormon speak of the good these men do and how well they treat people...
they're even nice to the people who aren't so nice to them. You
cannot say the same.
You're a fake and you know it.
DumberThanSnot
at all
> the angry bees! This must be some kind of record! I may leap and
shout for
> joy, for so perecuted they the prophets before me!
So... "Josh's test" is something you want to rely on... ok... let's
count how many of your posts must be evil due to the lack of replies.
Dang... it looks like almost ALL of your thesis work was evil.
--------------------------------------
Very short list of topics posted from Art Bulla that nobody replied to.
(this means their EVIL due to "Josh's test")
--------------------------------------
"Zion Redeemed pt. 3" by Richard Lewis, Apostle of the One Mighty and
Strong
Telling the Truth is Inimical to the Gentile World
Revelation on Enoch
First Vision
Hinckley Not a Prophet
Common Sense
The Black Bastard Son of Cain has Complained about my Language
Paul Saw my Day and was Glad
Jesus Christ was not a Christian
Addendum to 95 Theses
Theses 94 against the Whore of All the Earth upheld by the LDS-adists,
Zoellnerites, a Jughead Religion for Fools and Blind
Theses 93 against the Whore of All the Earth upheld by the LDS-adists,
Zoellnerites, a Jughead Religion for Fools and Blind
Theses 90 against the Whore of All the Earth upheld by the LDS-adists,
Zoellnerites, a Jughead Religion for Fools and Blind
Theses 89 against the Whore of All the Earth upheld by the LDS-adists,
Zoellnerites, a Jughead Religion for Fools and Blind
Theses 68c against the Whore of All the Earth upheld by the LDS-adists,
Zoellnerites, a Jughead Religion for Fools and Blind
*** Just to save some time.... Theses 88, 86, 85, 84, 83, 80, 79,
etc....
--------------------------------------
I stopped counting... I got bored!
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Harrington) wrote:
> It's nice of you to rate yourself so highly. What was it that
>Jesus said, "He who would be first will be last and the last first."
>You place yourself in the role of the Dragon who gives power to the
>Beast. Art's prophecies have led you astray and you now serve that
>which you would be horrified by. Art Bulla would NEVER be made King
>of Israel. He would have to be able to prove himself a natural born
>Jew, which he is not, and he would have to be annointed by a prophet
>that all Israel recognises. Airy-fairy pipe-dreams. Wake up and
>smell the stench of putrid lies that fall like so much rot from the
>Beast Bulla.
Okay, Mr. Harrington, I missed judge you, you are not a self-hating
Jew.
But you are being a "johnny-come-lately."
The simple fact remains, that I, Joshua Israel am the "least" within
the Kingdom of Heaven (Government of God). And am the "last" in the
Kingdom of God (Church of God).
For you do bring up real issues and concerns, but you are yet to bring
up an unsurmountable obstacle. For if God is with Israel, which is me,
Joshua Israel, then who can be against me?
For I, Joshua Israel can see that you are not a self-hating Jew, but
you have real concerns about being fooled by a false prophet and given
false hopes. Which is all fairness is justifiable.
Let me you put at ease, there are things in place which the God of
Glory has hid from the world, to show forth his wisdom and majesty in
delivering the House of Israel from the powers of evil.
As you already know, Moses was confronted by the powers of evil, but
God was always one step ahead of evil, am I correct?
(2 Tim. 3:8) "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these
also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the
faith."
Yes, sorcerers Jannes and Jambres were able to inmate all the plages
that Moses did, even turn their wizard's rods into serpents, but Moses
with God's wisdom and majesty was always able to be one step ahead of
Jannes and Jambres, who were real sorcerers and false prophets of the
devil.
Now, there are sissy prophets, that are false, and have not any
supernormal powers, and cannot use the power of ether to recreate
miracles, but then there are also the real thing too.
I, Joshua Israel, never wanted you persuade you that you are a fool,
buy only present to you the evidence that things are not has you have
been lead to picture in your mind.
You see a limited view of things as they now stand, and are easily
offended by anyone who claims there is hope for Israel among the last
of the people, like Art and Joshua, for Art and Joshua never grew up
high places, in palaces, where you find those that are first in all
things.
Therefore you do put your foot in your mouth, if you quote scripture
to me, for that is a gift of a real prophet, to know scriptures better
than you.
Now, it is not my intentions to offend a believer in God, but only to
show forth God's wisdom in providing for his holy people of Israel.
Now, when did God say that in the last days, there would be a "State
of Israel" that would build his holy temple in Jerusalem?
Never did he say such thing, for God speaks of the "Kingdom of Israel"
and the man called the "The Branch" who should come to sit upon the
throne of David, and be a priest and a king upon the throne, and that
this is the man who shall built the third temple.
Think Not, then read and learn:
(Zech. 6:12-13) "And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of
hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall
grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the
glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a
priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them
both."
Now it is said by the scholars, that this refers to the Prophet
Zechariah crowning Joshua, the high priest, in similitude of Christ,
the Branch, who shall come and sit upon the throne of David.
However, as you have said, this is only false teachings, because the
bible has this to say about giving private interpretations of
prophecy:
(2 Pet. 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is
of any private interpretation.
However, you are in luck, for I am no sissy prophet, but the real
thing.
I have and I will always be lead of God, and his Spirit of Wisdom is
upon me, and I can interpret the scriptures for you.
Know that scholars are not right about "Joshua" being the "The
Branch".
For if we read, Zech. 6:12-13, we see that it says:
"and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."
Both?
You see, what the scholars could not learn, I, Joshua by the power of
God's Spirit do make things known, right?
Think not, then consider your own concerns about Art not having a
prophet:
PATRICK: Art Bulla would NEVER be made King of Israel. He would have
to be able to prove himself a natural born Jew, which he is not, and
he would have to be anointed by a prophet
that all Israel recognize.
JOSHUA: The Lost Tribes of Israel are thirty-one mile outside of
Juneau Alaska, where God in his great wisdom hid them, to show the
world his majesty in delivering the State of Israel, and the State of
Israel shall become the Kingdom of Israel, when the Lost Tribes come
forth by the power of God, and they will come in search of their
anointed king and priest, and will want to march towards Israel to
reclaim all the ancient lands given by God to the Royal House of
Israel.
PATRICK: I need more proof, than just the words of one man, called
Joshua, who is bring up foolishness.
GOD: "AND he shewed me Joshua [Israel] the high priest standing before
the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist
him."
2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even
the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand
plucked out of the [atomic] fire?
3 Now Joshua [Israel] was clothed with filthy garments [for having
revealed the wisdom of our God unto the unworthy], [but Joshua] stood
before the angel, [the messenger of the Man of Holiness, the Great
Jehovah].
4 And [the divine messenger] answered and spake unto those that stood
before [Joshua Israel], saying, Take away the filthy garments from
[Joshua, God's adopted son]. And unto [Joshua] he said, Behold, I have
caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with
change of raiment. [For thou hast pleased God, and prevail against the
forces of evil, and brought forth my will, for my power was manifested
in thy works.] (Zech. 3:1-4)
JOSHUA: Yes, I know better than you, and yes, I am that prophet that
was foretold to come, to anoint the future king of the Kingdom of
Israel. Called the Branch, for he is the center branch of the menorah.
PATRICK: That waits to be seen.
JOSHUA: You don't have long to wait, 2012.
PATRICK: That is unlikely, since you are not a prophet, but you are
being fooled by Art Bulla, and the devil now works to convince you
such things; for God will appoint another in the end, who can deliver
his people, instead of fighting with them all the time.
JOSHUA: Well, Patrick, now you know why, I am the last, for I did not
grow up in a palace, upon the land of ancient Israel, but just like
the Branch, who grow up out of his place, "Behold the man whose name
is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place," (Zech. 6:12). I
too, grew up out of my place, but it is said that there will be two
world capitals, one called the City of Zion, the New Jerusalem, and
the other Old Jerusalem, City of the Great Kings. And this will be how
"and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." [Between Art
and Joshua, for I shall sit and rule one capital, and Art Bulla the
other world capital. And it will be Art Bulla great pleasure to greet
Jesus Christ whenever he visits this earth, for Jesus will come to
stay at his palace, next to the third temple of Jerusalem].
"And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us ago up to the
mountain of the LORD, [JUST HILL] to the House of the God of Jacob [in
Independence, Missouri]; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will
walk in his paths: for out of [the City of Zion] shall go forth the
Law, and the Word of the LORD from Jerusalem." ~ The prophet Isaiah
2:3
JOSHUA: You are the fool Patrick, because I, Joshua was once like you,
for I once asked God to send to my sister Dafne the future king of
Israel, and the devil work to deceive me, for when the child was born
with the star of David on both hands, and his father without knowing
what I asked God to do, name him according to prophecy, 船avid
Joseph', for it is said by the ancient prophet that the coming new
king with be both from the Royal House of Judah as well as the Royal
House of Joseph. And he carries both names. And my family's crest is
the arms of the Lion of Judah, and my family motto is "Crux -
Hereditas Mea", and when the child was born, the Jews wanted him raise
Jewish. And the devil did many mighty wonders to fool me, and even
when the child was present to the LDS Church, the LDS CHURCH sent a
group of men to bless him with a special mission to the world, for God
said, he is special unto me, in him will I make a name for myself, and
the world shall see the power of my glory in his right hand, and he
can obtain any thing from by prayer alone. Yes, the devil did work
lying wonders to fool Joshua. Yes, I could tell you more,
"johnny-come-lately" but know that I had to overcome the devil, who
knew that I was one day going to come across the real king of Israel,
Art Bulla, and the devil does stands at my right hand, as told by the
prophet Zechariah 3:1, to make me a fool. But I thank God daily, that
I have seen pass the blinding light of Lucifer, and now know it was
Satan the devil trying make me a fool and reject Art Bulla, so he lead
me to think it was my nephew, but the glory goes to Art Bulla, and not
the one that the LDS Church managers appoint.
Think not, then read this:
(D&C 85:7) "And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send
One Mighty and Strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand,
clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words,
eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set
in order the House of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of
the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and
of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;"
YES, the above scripture speaks of Art Bulla, and not my nephew, who
the Lord had this to say:
(D&C 85:9) "While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that
putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the
shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of
lightning."
Yes, this was the warning which God gave anyone who sought to take Art
Bulla place among the great seers of the menorah, which represents the
Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
JOSHUA [Zech. 3] <挿}}><
Susan Cohen
"RetroProphet" <RetroProp...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:d1661...@drn.newsguy.com...
> >
>>When the Jews killed their king Jesus...
>>
>
> The New Testament accounts are such remarkably unreasonable
> historical accounts when it comes to portraying Jews
> that there can be no doubt that they were fabricated
> by those who were far more interested in building a religion
> that could work in a Roman-dominated world, and that meant
> turning Judaism into a scapegoat for the new religion.
You put this so much better than I ever have, I salute you!
Susan
Susan Cohen
Mastodons?
Susan
"Jong Kim" <rh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:113detd...@corp.supernews.com...
[snip rst of increasing jibberish]
Susan Cohen
"DumberThanSnot" <Hin...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110903300.8...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Gee, I must be a true Prophet accoding to "Joshua's Test". Just look
> at all
>> the angry bees! This must be some kind of record! I may leap and
> shout for
>> joy, for so perecuted they the prophets before me!
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=persecute
>
> 1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race,
> religion, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.
> 2. To annoy persistently; bother.
Hey - just what they're doing to scj!
Susan
Pat Harrington
So what is Art going to do, then? When will this "one, mighty and
strong" actually do anything other than promise to do something and
spout rubbish? Somehow, I think my children's children will pass
before Art does anything other than hide and rot. It seems that he
sits around with you and a couple of other "inner circle" people and
talk and write a lot. This is fairly pointless. It is the mark of a
cult of personality and they usually end in some disastrous Jim
Jones/David Koresh kind of way. If you wish to be a useful member of
society, you should try living a life rather than chatting with a DIY
wannabe Godlet. I've seen cults like this come and go with either
nothing coming of it or disaster coming of it. He certainly hasn't
made a favourable impact on the world at large. He seems to engender
anger from people. I assume hecan walk on water or turn goats milk
into honey or some such other miracles, as his prophecies don't stand
up to the lightest of scrutiny. So what is it about him that draws
people in?
net...@geocities.com
> net...@GeoCities.com (Guy R. Briggs) wrote:
>> as you are me and we are all together.
>> See how they run like pigs from a gun,
>> -- The Beatles, "I Am the Walrus"
>
>
>
> I wonder if the world will soon see yellow matter custard
> dripping from this prophet's eye.
>
It only looks like custard - in reality it's semolina pilchard,
accidently splashed on him by one of his plural crabalocker fishwives.
;0)
Dude, you are dating youself! This song was recorded in, what, '67
or '68?
bestRegards, Guy - who took no offense at the D-bomb.
Pat Harrington
> Pat Harrington wrote:
> > net...@GeoCities.com (Guy R. Briggs) wrote:
> >> a...@artbulla.com ("Art Bulla") wrote:
> >>>
> >>> WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
> >>
> >> "I am he as you are he
> >> as you are me and we are all together.
> >> See how they run like pigs from a gun,
> >> see how they fly. I'm crying."
> >> -- The Beatles, "I Am the Walrus"
> >
> > Damn, Guy, I was gonna say that!!
> >
> When you snooze, you lose, amigo!
>
I'm afraid that time zones got the best of me. I have to sleep
sometime. It did seem like the obvious response.
> >
> > I wonder if the world will soon see yellow matter custard
> > dripping from this prophet's eye.
> >
> It only looks like custard - in reality it's semolina pilchard,
> accidently splashed on him by one of his plural crabalocker fishwives.
> ;0)
>
I bet he's visited a few pornographic priestesses in his days, as
well!!
> Dude, you are dating youself! This song was recorded in, what, '67
> or '68?
>
I only dated myself after you dated yourself. This really sounds
like a horrible double date!!
>
> bestRegards, Guy - who took no offense at the D-bomb.
Good, glad to hear it!! I almost started this post with, "Damn
time zones got the best of me!" but I didn't wan't to be accused of
damning time for all time. Ah, there's another song "Damned For All
Time" from Jesus Christ Superstar, just a couple of years after "I Am
the Walrus".
I like your rather "Victorious" email address. Cool! It doesn't
come without it's problems, though. Have you ever been flamed on the
usenet by somebody calling you Nutsack? I'd be afraid of it if it
were MY address.
RetroProphet
This is one of the most hilarious posts I have ever read.
"Art and Joshua's Excellent Adventure"
Josh, you are truly a talent.
By the way, what exactly does ",right?" mean in your writings?
Is it the equivalent of Art's ",saith the Lord"
or something more humble?
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<RetroProp...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>By the way, what exactly does ",right?" mean in your writings?
>Is it the equivalent of Art's ",saith the Lord"
>or something more humble?
When I say, "right?" It is only a gesture, meaning, "are you with me
so far?"
JIG
PS: I'm glad to see that my post has soften you up a little, for too
many are so-and-so here and can't breathe without pain; however, in
all fairness I am being serious, about my inspirations, and
aspirations.
Pat Harrington
> On 15 Mar 2005 03:05:13 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
> Harrington) wrote:
>
> > It's nice of you to rate yourself so highly. What was it that
> >Jesus said, "He who would be first will be last and the last first."
> >You place yourself in the role of the Dragon who gives power to the
> >Beast. Art's prophecies have led you astray and you now serve that
> >which you would be horrified by. Art Bulla would NEVER be made King
> >of Israel. He would have to be able to prove himself a natural born
> >Jew, which he is not, and he would have to be annointed by a prophet
> >that all Israel recognises. Airy-fairy pipe-dreams. Wake up and
> >smell the stench of putrid lies that fall like so much rot from the
> >Beast Bulla.
>
> Okay, Mr. Harrington, I missed judge you, you are not a self-hating
> Jew.
>
> But you are being a "johnny-come-lately."
>
> The simple fact remains, that I, Joshua Israel am the "least" within
> the Kingdom of Heaven (Government of God). And am the "last" in the
> Kingdom of God (Church of God).
>
Now you are specifically making yourself the last in order to be
first. If I can see that, don't you think God can?
> For you do bring up real issues and concerns, but you are yet to bring
> up an unsurmountable obstacle. For if God is with Israel, which is me,
> Joshua Israel, then who can be against me?
>
By claiming to be Israel, you are claiming to be Jewish. If you
say you are not Jewish, you are lying about something. You can't be
LDS and Jewish. Try again.
> For I, Joshua Israel can see that you are not a self-hating Jew, but
> you have real concerns about being fooled by a false prophet and given
> false hopes. Which is all fairness is justifiable.
>
Thanks. I've met a few False Prophets before and, I'm sure, I'll
meet many more.
> Let me you put at ease, there are things in place which the God of
> Glory has hid from the world, to show forth his wisdom and majesty in
> delivering the House of Israel from the powers of evil.
>
But Israel is not under the powers of evil. So you have a false
premiss and any remedy would, then, also be false.
> As you already know, Moses was confronted by the powers of evil, but
> God was always one step ahead of evil, am I correct?
>
There is nothing that is not God. Does this answer your
question?
> (2 Tim. 3:8) "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these
> also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the
> faith."
>
Jannes and Jambres were old colleagues and teachers of Moses in
the Egyptian religion and arts. The whole sticks-to-snakes trick they
knew Moses would know--it's a stage magician's trick;, but, when
Moses' snake ate the others', they realised that Moses' magic was more
powerful than theirs. Those three knew one another very well, but
Moses showed them his new teacher was a bit more clever.
> Yes, sorcerers Jannes and Jambres were able to inmate all the plages
> that Moses did, even turn their wizard's rods into serpents, but Moses
> with God's wisdom and majesty was always able to be one step ahead of
> Jannes and Jambres, who were real sorcerers and false prophets of the
> devil.
>
Jannes and Jambres were just teachers and priests of the Egyptian
religion; they weren't prophets of any kind. You've been watching too
much Cecil B. DeMille.
> Now, there are sissy prophets, that are false, and have not any
> supernormal powers, and cannot use the power of ether to recreate
> miracles, but then there are also the real thing too.
>
> I, Joshua Israel, never wanted you persuade you that you are a fool,
> buy only present to you the evidence that things are not has you have
> been lead to picture in your mind.
>
So, now you profess to know what pictures are in my mind. I've
seen no evidence of that in what you write.
> You see a limited view of things as they now stand, and are easily
> offended by anyone who claims there is hope for Israel among the last
> of the people, like Art and Joshua, for Art and Joshua never grew up
> high places, in palaces, where you find those that are first in all
> things.
>
There has always been hope for Israel, which is why it still
exists. I am offended by people who think Israel is ill and in need
of heathen help. Yes, that offends me.
> Therefore you do put your foot in your mouth, if you quote scripture
> to me, for that is a gift of a real prophet, to know scriptures better
> than you.
>
You think only prophets can quote scripture? I taught myself
Hebrew and Greek so that I could read the scriptures without
translation. Can you read Hebrew and/or Greek? If you can, I would
be really quite surprised.
> Now, it is not my intentions to offend a believer in God, but only to
> show forth God's wisdom in providing for his holy people of Israel.
>
> Now, when did God say that in the last days, there would be a "State
> of Israel" that would build his holy temple in Jerusalem?
>
> Never did he say such thing, for God speaks of the "Kingdom of Israel"
> and the man called the "The Branch" who should come to sit upon the
> throne of David, and be a priest and a king upon the throne, and that
> this is the man who shall built the third temple.
>
So you think Art Bulla is going to be allowed to oversee the
re-erection of the Temple on the Temple Mount? I don't think either
Israel or the Arabs would allow this. He would be torn apart on the
spot.
> Think Not, then read and learn:
>
> (Zech. 6:12-13) "And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of
> hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall
> grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
> Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the
> glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a
> priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them
> both."
>
> Now it is said by the scholars, that this refers to the Prophet
> Zechariah crowning Joshua, the high priest, in similitude of Christ,
> the Branch, who shall come and sit upon the throne of David.
>
I don't think you'll find that Jews would agree with that
interpretation. A better translation of Tzemach would be sprout
rather than branch. It derives from the verb Tzamach, which means to
sprout. Tzemach or Zemah need not be anything other than a proper
name. Similar to "and his name shall be called Immanuel". But it
wasn't, was it? This whole branch thing reminds me too much of the
Branch Davidians. Koresh was also a branch. It withered.
> However, as you have said, this is only false teachings, because the
> bible has this to say about giving private interpretations of
> prophecy:
>
> (2 Pet. 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is
> of any private interpretation.
>
That was a horrible translation. The Greek says, "Know this
first, that no prophecy of scripture is its own solution." In other
words there are no self-made prophets or self-fulfilling prophecies.
Read the REAL text.
> However, you are in luck, for I am no sissy prophet, but the real
> thing.
>
And you have just gone against the true meaning of 2 Pet. 1:20 by
declaring yourself a true prophet. You can't hide behind that which
you don't understand.
> I have and I will always be lead of God, and his Spirit of Wisdom is
> upon me, and I can interpret the scriptures for you.
>
I wouldn't let your interpretations of bastardized translations
come within the reach of a 10 foot branch.
> Know that scholars are not right about "Joshua" being the "The
> Branch".
>
And I know that you are no scholar for you have not delved to
discover the truth but take translations at face value.
> For if we read, Zech. 6:12-13, we see that it says:
>
> "and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."
>
> Both?
>
Yes both. Both the man who built the temple and the first high
priest to preside therein.
> You see, what the scholars could not learn, I, Joshua by the power of
> God's Spirit do make things known, right?
>
You're sounding a bit like Yente. Of course, right.
> Think not, then consider your own concerns about Art not having a
> prophet:
>
> PATRICK: Art Bulla would NEVER be made King of Israel. He would have
> to be able to prove himself a natural born Jew, which he is not, and
> he would have to be anointed by a prophet
> that all Israel recognize.
>
> JOSHUA: The Lost Tribes of Israel are thirty-one mile outside of
> Juneau Alaska, where God in his great wisdom hid them, to show the
> world his majesty in delivering the State of Israel, and the State of
> Israel shall become the Kingdom of Israel, when the Lost Tribes come
> forth by the power of God, and they will come in search of their
> anointed king and priest, and will want to march towards Israel to
> reclaim all the ancient lands given by God to the Royal House of
> Israel.
>
They would be humiliated. Genetic testing would be the proof.
> PATRICK: I need more proof, than just the words of one man, called
> Joshua, who is bring up foolishness.
>
> GOD: "AND he shewed me Joshua [Israel] the high priest standing before
> the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist
> him."
>
> 2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even
> the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand
> plucked out of the [atomic] fire?
>
Are you really trying to tell me that the contains the Hebrew word
for "atomic"? Do you see how far out of reality you are?
> 3 Now Joshua [Israel] was clothed with filthy garments [for having
> revealed the wisdom of our God unto the unworthy], [but Joshua] stood
> before the angel, [the messenger of the Man of Holiness, the Great
> Jehovah].
>
> 4 And [the divine messenger] answered and spake unto those that stood
> before [Joshua Israel], saying, Take away the filthy garments from
> [Joshua, God's adopted son]. And unto [Joshua] he said, Behold, I have
> caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with
> change of raiment. [For thou hast pleased God, and prevail against the
> forces of evil, and brought forth my will, for my power was manifested
> in thy works.] (Zech. 3:1-4)
>
Ah, cut and paste scripture. The mark of the truly desparate.
> JOSHUA: Yes, I know better than you, and yes, I am that prophet that
> was foretold to come, to anoint the future king of the Kingdom of
> Israel. Called the Branch, for he is the center branch of the menorah.
>
I suppose he's also going to claim to be the return of King Arthur,
as well, eh? The once and future King. More skills in lore are good
enough to see that coming. You know more than I do in certain
respects. And I know more than you do in others. I would say Art is
going to be hard pressed to even be considered a sprout, much less a
branch.
> PATRICK: That waits to be seen.
>
> JOSHUA: You don't have long to wait, 2012.
>
So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the fray. I
see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse be? Art
wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't erady for it?
> PATRICK: That is unlikely, since you are not a prophet, but you are
> being fooled by Art Bulla, and the devil now works to convince you
> such things; for God will appoint another in the end, who can deliver
> his people, instead of fighting with them all the time.
>
> JOSHUA: Well, Patrick, now you know why, I am the last, for I did not
> grow up in a palace, upon the land of ancient Israel, but just like
> the Branch, who grow up out of his place, "Behold the man whose name
> is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place," (Zech. 6:12). I
> too, grew up out of my place, but it is said that there will be two
> world capitals, one called the City of Zion, the New Jerusalem, and
> the other Old Jerusalem, City of the Great Kings. And this will be how
> "and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." [Between Art
> and Joshua, for I shall sit and rule one capital, and Art Bulla the
> other world capital. And it will be Art Bulla great pleasure to greet
> Jesus Christ whenever he visits this earth, for Jesus will come to
> stay at his palace, next to the third temple of Jerusalem].
>
So You're from Zion, Missouri? I'm from St. Louis!! You'll have
to get past the gatekeeper. So you plan to be a Kansas City Chief,
eh? Guess that makes me a Cardinal from the old school. Or a mighty
Ram.
> "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us ago up to the
> mountain of the LORD, [JUST HILL] to the House of the God of Jacob [in
> Independence, Missouri]; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will
> walk in his paths: for out of [the City of Zion] shall go forth the
> Law, and the Word of the LORD from Jerusalem." ~ The prophet Isaiah
> 2:3
>
So Isaiah spoke directly about Missouri, did he? Funny that's not
in the Masoretic text.
> JOSHUA: You are the fool Patrick, because I, Joshua was once like you,
> for I once asked God to send to my sister Dafne the future king of
> Israel, and the devil work to deceive me, for when the child was born
> with the star of David on both hands, and his father without knowing
> what I asked God to do, name him according to prophecy, ?David
> Joseph', for it is said by the ancient prophet that the coming new
> king with be both from the Royal House of Judah as well as the Royal
> House of Joseph. And he carries both names. And my family's crest is
> the arms of the Lion of Judah, and my family motto is "Crux -
> Hereditas Mea", and when the child was born, the Jews wanted him raise
> Jewish. And the devil did many mighty wonders to fool me, and even
> when the child was present to the LDS Church, the LDS CHURCH sent a
> group of men to bless him with a special mission to the world, for God
> said, he is special unto me, in him will I make a name for myself, and
> the world shall see the power of my glory in his right hand, and he
> can obtain any thing from by prayer alone. Yes, the devil did work
> lying wonders to fool Joshua. Yes, I could tell you more,
> "johnny-come-lately" but know that I had to overcome the devil, who
> knew that I was one day going to come across the real king of Israel,
> Art Bulla, and the devil does stands at my right hand, as told by the
> prophet Zechariah 3:1, to make me a fool. But I thank God daily, that
> I have seen pass the blinding light of Lucifer, and now know it was
> Satan the devil trying make me a fool and reject Art Bulla, so he lead
> me to think it was my nephew, but the glory goes to Art Bulla, and not
> the one that the LDS Church managers appoint.
>
I think you've been steeped in as much LSD as LDS. If you knew
what I knew. Nevermind. As I had said in a previous post, it seems
your cult is relatively harmless--just irritating and insulting of our
intelligence on this forum. Neither we of this forum nor, indeed, the
world have need of your cult or your plan or your blessings. Go heal
the LDS. Remember, there is little difference between Mormon and
moron, mm? As far as being a johnny-come-lately, at least I'm joining
the right bunch. I'd far rather be persecuted for being right than
for being different.
> Think not, then read this:
>
It is really annoying telling me to not think. I see you're very
good at it. I, personally, would rather think very carefully. It
would behoove you to do the same.
> (D&C 85:7) "And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send
> One Mighty and Strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand,
> clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words,
> eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set
> in order the House of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of
> the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and
> of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;"
>
That's rich!! "His bowels shall be a fountain of truth."
Spewing that which cometh from the bowels as his truth, more like!!
I'd have thought you couldn't make shit up like that, but, obviously
Mormon fundamentalist can spew it unlike any other. In my best Ali
G.: Respec'!
> YES, the above scripture speaks of Art Bulla, and not my nephew, who
> the Lord had this to say:
>
> (D&C 85:9) "While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that
> putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the
> shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of
> lightning."
>
> Yes, this was the warning which God gave anyone who sought to take Art
> Bulla place among the great seers of the menorah, which represents the
> Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
>
Art has still not answered my simple question. What is the
Foundation of the World? A one word answer will suffice.
> JOSHUA [Zech. 3] <?}}}><
Susan Cohen
"Pat Harrington" <PatrickDH...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7517a083.05031...@posting.google.com...
>
> say you are not Jewish, you are lying about something. You can't be
> LDS and Jewish. Try again.
Actually, you can be.
You can be an apostate Jew.
But he's not.
Susan
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Harrington) wrote:
> So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the fray. I
>see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse be? Art
>wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't erady for it?
PATRICK: So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the
fray. I see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse
be? Art wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't ready for it?
JOSHUA: Not so fast, your rushing into things you know little about.
First of all, my family owns the planes to Tikal, and my grandfather
even own one few remaining Mayan scrolls. So, I am more knowledgeable
about the Mayans than you are. Having traveled often to Guatemala many
times, and seen first hand. Yes, even my father's brother Alfred owned
the first Airline of Guatemala. Yes, you know little about the Mayans,
only what you have seen in books, right?
PATRICK: Rubbish, I know Hebrew and Greek, so that makes me more
knowledgeable about Mayans too.
JOSHUA: Okay Patrick so you know Hebrew and Greek, but the Jesus spoke
Aramaic not Greek, and Moses knew the language of Egyptians and
provable wrote the Torah in Egyptian not Hebrew. But does it matter?
For it is not a perfect transfer of context, for there are no perfect
languages on earth like the one Noah spoke, that have remained until
now after the tower of Babel. Therefore, even with a better
translation, you are still unable to obtain a proper context in which
many of the words are authored in the holy texts.
PATRICK: Humbug, Joshua, your playing silly games of semantic, show me
the proof instead.
JOSHUA: Now, everyone knows that the Egyptians were record keepers,
yet, there is no proof that Moses ever lived in Egypt. How strange, if
only the Jews have a record of Moses, then perhaps it was all made up,
right? The Jews needed a hero, and they made it up like the Greek were
known to do, right?
PATRICK: Rubbish, Moses existed, because it is the foundation of our
faith that he did.
JOSHUA: Okay, Patrick, you in luck, for I also am angry with the
Egyptians for having the habit of erasing all record of the Israelites
in Egypt, because they thought that by erasing the evidence, hen it
would keep Israel greatness from become immortalized forever.
PATRICK: Well, mm, that make sense. They were in the habit of erasing
records of the people they didn't like, and after the Egyptian
firstborns all died in Egypt, they hated Israel so much they had the
names of all Israelites removed from their records.
JOSHUA: Thanks for giving me this much praise, but now I will give you
more proof. The simple fact remains that because there are no records
in Egypt about Moses great works, it doesn't mean that the Egyptians
don't believe there was a real Moses, right? However, you have to
admit there is a lack of proof, and it must all be swallowed by us
Latter-day Saint by faith, right? That there was a prophet called
Moses, and that the Jews are not just making up a Moses and causing
all Latter-day Saint to believe in the false prophet who never existed
according to Egyptian records.
PATRICK: Well, mm, mm, I really have no right asking for you proof
about Joseph Smith being a prophet when I can't even prove that Moses
lived in Egypt.
JOSHUA: Yes, that is the weakness of proof. But the wise have faith,
right? And by faith we all, believe there was a prophet called Moses.
NOW, for word about the year 2012, it is not my concern that the Mayan
choose to back me up.
Know that I use the Mayan year of 2012, because on June 12, 2012, my
nephew will be thirty-three years old, the same age that Jesus was
when he finished his mission as Messiah Ben David, to be a spiritual
Deliverer. Now, my nephew would be what the Jewish call, Messiah Ben
Joseph, the physical Deliverer. So you see, how wrong you are, it is
not base upon Mayan calendar, but my nephew's birthday, when he is 33
years old he will land upon Israel with a 144 thousand newly appointed
gods upon white flying horses to fight the battle of Armageddon.
Now it is said that the Battle of Armageddon is three and half years
long, and will be mostly a mental war, but in the end it will have
become a physical conflict in the valley of Megiddo.
There will be 200 million men army array against the tiny State of
Israel, mostly Chinese peacekeeper. Then will Messiah Ben Joseph
appear and save the Jewish butt from destruction, and then you see
that the State of Israel will not receive their new king!
Are you getting a better picture now, you see Patrick my works and
words will come back to haunt you, remember I told you that you had
the wrong picture in your mind! Yes, you even thought I was using the
Mayan calendar, but I was not, it was the Mayan prophets confirm and
backing me up.
Now, it is not my fault the Jewish scholars of the Bible code say that
the anti-Christ is Camel.
Did you know that Gemmell has it origins for the third letter of the
Hebrew alphabet?
If you know Hebrew, then you understand that third letter Gimel, means
Camel.
Now, I am not the anti-Christ, but I do come to destroy the works of
the anti-Christ.
Yes, I could tell you more, but I think you need milk (basic
principles of faith) before I give you meat (mysteries of the kingdom
of God).
Joshua Israel <挿}}><
PS: Moses wrote the Old Testament in Egyptian, and what you have is a
Hebrew translation, and Jesus spoke Aramaic, the language of the
Hebrew patriarchs, and the New Testament is a Greek translation of
what Jesus said, so you have not the original tongues to brag about,
but just corrupt translations. But we Latter-day Saints have a good
translation of the Book of Mormon, thank God it was translated by the
power of God.
RetroProphet
>Therefore, even with a better translation,
>you are still unable to obtain a proper context in which
>many of the words are authored in the holy texts.
>They were in the habit of erasing
>...
>But the wise have faith, right?
The real problem with religion, in a nutshell.
The wise are extremely skeptical of it all.
Just be nice to each other.
That's all the religion needed.
RetroProphet
>>>When the Jews killed their king Jesus...
>>>
>>
>> The New Testament accounts are such remarkably unreasonable
>> historical accounts when it comes to portraying Jews
>> that there can be no doubt that they were fabricated
>> by those who were far more interested in building a religion
>> that could work in a Roman-dominated world, and that meant
>> turning Judaism into a scapegoat for the new religion.
>
>You put this so much better than I ever have, I salute you!
>
>Susan
Thank you.
Most Christians are far too smug regarding
the accuracy of the basic facts of the founding
of their religious tradition and do not have the
honesty to disengage the spiritual teachings of Jesus
from historical reality, to critically disregard whatever
cannot be true, wherever analysis leads.
An honest and sincere re-association of Christianity
with its Judaic roots has been occurring to some degree,
but almost no valid efforts come from Christian quarters.
Mormons think they are doing this, but they are wrong,
because they are as uncritical of Roman Catholic tradition
as the Roman Catholics are, while mimicking their model for
embellishment to a degree that can only be considered absurd.
Not to mention far too smug themselves regarding
the accuracy of their understanding of Judaism,
a truly fatal flaw for people who are convinced
that they are restoring a true understanding of it.
Pat Harrington
Indeed, It does strike me as incredibly absurd when these
Mormons tell you they are one step ahead of you and you know, beyond
any doubt, that they're at least two steps if not three behind you.
They would say the problem is that you're facing the wrong direction.
And then tell you of some great ancient revelation they just had.
Absolutely stunning!!
Pat Harrington
> On 15 Mar 2005 17:24:45 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
> Harrington) wrote:
>
> > So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the fray. I
> >see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse be? Art
> >wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't erady for it?
>
> PATRICK: So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the
> fray. I see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse
> be? Art wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't ready for it?
>
> JOSHUA: Not so fast, your rushing into things you know little about.
> First of all, my family owns the planes to Tikal, and my grandfather
> even own one few remaining Mayan scrolls. So, I am more knowledgeable
> about the Mayans than you are. Having traveled often to Guatemala many
> times, and seen first hand. Yes, even my father's brother Alfred owned
> the first Airline of Guatemala. Yes, you know little about the Mayans,
> only what you have seen in books, right?
>
The point that you stray from is that the Mayan calendar has
NOTHING to do with LDS or Judaism or Christianity.
> PATRICK: Rubbish, I know Hebrew and Greek, so that makes me more
> knowledgeable about Mayans too.
>
You have purposely misquoted me. I have never misquoted you. I
suggest that, in your obvious desparation, you have little else to do
but bastardise everything to fit your plan. It doesn't fly, Orville!!
> JOSHUA: Okay Patrick so you know Hebrew and Greek, but the Jesus spoke
> Aramaic not Greek, and Moses knew the language of Egyptians and
> provable wrote the Torah in Egyptian not Hebrew.
I'm perfectly aware that Jesus spoke Aramaic. I also own an
Aramaic to Hebrew dictionary. I think you'll find that Jesus DID
speak Greek. It's the only sensible answer to solve how Jesus an
Pilate spoke to each other. Pilate didn't know Aramaic and Jesus
didn't know Latin. Greek was the lingua Franca of the day. If an
average citizen of Judea wished to ask a question of a Roman Centurian
or any Roman soldier, he would have spoken Greek.
Moses would've written the Torah in an ancient Semitic language
known to the hebrews and called Ancient Hebrwe today. He would not
have written it in a hamitic language as it was not intended for an
hamitic audience.
> But does it matter?
Yes, it does!
> For it is not a perfect transfer of context, for there are no perfect
> languages on earth like the one Noah spoke, that have remained until
> now after the tower of Babel.
Now there's something that truly IS immaterial. What do you mean
by perfect language?
> Therefore, even with a better
> translation, you are still unable to obtain a proper context in which
> many of the words are authored in the holy texts.
>
I would say that, since all you know is the translation, you
cannot speak with authority on the subject. Your words are very
empty.
> PATRICK: Humbug, Joshua, your playing silly games of semantic, show me
> the proof instead.
>
Again, you put words in my mouth. Why don't you just have a quiet
conversation with yourself and leave all of us out of it.
> JOSHUA: Now, everyone knows that the Egyptians were record keepers,
> yet, there is no proof that Moses ever lived in Egypt. How strange, if
> only the Jews have a record of Moses, then perhaps it was all made up,
> right? The Jews needed a hero, and they made it up like the Greek were
> known to do, right?
>
> PATRICK: Rubbish, Moses existed, because it is the foundation of our
> faith that he did.
>
> JOSHUA: Okay, Patrick, you in luck, for I also am angry with the
> Egyptians for having the habit of erasing all record of the Israelites
> in Egypt, because they thought that by erasing the evidence, hen it
> would keep Israel greatness from become immortalized forever.
>
> PATRICK: Well, mm, that make sense. They were in the habit of erasing
> records of the people they didn't like, and after the Egyptian
> firstborns all died in Egypt, they hated Israel so much they had the
> names of all Israelites removed from their records.
>
> JOSHUA: Thanks for giving me this much praise, but now I will give you
> more proof.
You're just babbling to yourself. I never said any of that above.
Why don't you stick to conversing with real people and leave your
machinations out of it.
> The simple fact remains that because there are no records
> in Egypt about Moses great works, it doesn't mean that the Egyptians
> don't believe there was a real Moses, right? However, you have to
> admit there is a lack of proof, and it must all be swallowed by us
> Latter-day Saint by faith, right?
You swallow an awful lot. You are forgetting that the Egyptians
may have had their own name for him. Ramesses II was not the Pharoah
of the exodus, it was most likely Tuthmosis III. You have to dig a
bit to find out all the ins and outs but Tuthmosis I was the pharaoh
whose daughter, Hatshepsut, was the princess who drew Moses from the
water. She was also later married to her half-brother Tuthmosis II
and ruled as regent when Tuthmosis II was too young himself. She
probably wanted to set up Moses for rulership but when he left and
Tuthmosis II later had a son, Tuthmosis III, by another wife, she had
to relent and allow Tuthmosis II's only son to ascend.
>That there was a prophet called
> Moses, and that the Jews are not just making up a Moses and causing
> all Latter-day Saint to believe in the false prophet who never existed
> according to Egyptian records.
>
Since there was a direct threat to the throne, direct mention of
Moses would have been catastrophic. If Moses was well liked by the
Egyptian people, that would have made it worse.
> PATRICK: Well, mm, mm, I really have no right asking for you proof
> about Joseph Smith being a prophet when I can't even prove that Moses
> lived in Egypt.
>
Wrong. I have every right to ask whatever I wish. Prophets
aren't self-declared.
> JOSHUA: Yes, that is the weakness of proof. But the wise have faith,
> right? And by faith we all, believe there was a prophet called Moses.
>
> NOW, for word about the year 2012, it is not my concern that the Mayan
> choose to back me up.
>
Primarily because it doesn't. It predicts an asteroid smashing
into the Earth and no history after that. So, your "kingdom" wouldn't
exist.
> Know that I use the Mayan year of 2012, because on June 12, 2012, my
> nephew will be thirty-three years old, the same age that Jesus was
> when he finished his mission as Messiah Ben David, to be a spiritual
> Deliverer.
Now there's another problem. You see, Jesus was born in 4 BC,
probably in September) and by astronomical reckoning died on Friday,
April 3, 33AD. This makes him 37 at his death not 33. You see,
people had realised that his death must have been in 33AD BEFORE they
realised about the 4 year loss in the calendar lead to the birth being
in 4BC rather than 1AD. Jesus was 37 when he died.
> Now, my nephew would be what the Jewish call, Messiah Ben
> Joseph, the physical Deliverer. So you see, how wrong you are, it is
> not base upon Mayan calendar, but my nephew's birthday, when he is 33
> years old he will land upon Israel with a 144 thousand newly appointed
> gods upon white flying horses to fight the battle of Armageddon.
>
So you'd better change it to 2016, then, as you need to wait
until he's 37. It also seems that you are still relying heavily on
your nephew rather than Art Bulla. I think you're hedging your bets.
> Now it is said that the Battle of Armageddon is three and half years
> long, and will be mostly a mental war, but in the end it will have
> become a physical conflict in the valley of Megiddo.
>
3.5 years later brings us to 2020, depending on which month of the
year we started on.
> There will be 200 million men army array against the tiny State of
> Israel, mostly Chinese peacekeeper. Then will Messiah Ben Joseph
> appear and save the Jewish butt from destruction, and then you see
> that the State of Israel will not receive their new king!
>
Modern Israel is a democracy. That's why there's no king.
> Are you getting a better picture now, you see Patrick my works and
> words will come back to haunt you, remember I told you that you had
> the wrong picture in your mind! Yes, you even thought I was using the
> Mayan calendar, but I was not, it was the Mayan prophets confirm and
> backing me up.
>
No, not at all. It's because of the facts that I am aware of that
you are not that show me that your system is flawed.
> Now, it is not my fault the Jewish scholars of the Bible code say that
> the anti-Christ is Camel.
>
Sorry, you've made this up. Jewish scholars have no need for an
Antichrist; it's not a part of any Jewish tradition whatsoever.
> Did you know that Gemmell has it origins for the third letter of the
> Hebrew alphabet?
>
My own research tells me that the Argyll-based Scottish clan of
Gemmell derived it's name from the word Gamall, meaning "the old one".
My mother is a McEwen. The McEwens are an Argyll-based clan as well.
Both of our clans pledged allegiance to the Campbells, although the
current Campbell chief disputes the Gemmell claim that a former Duke
of Argyll decreed the right of Gemmells to wear the Campbell tartan.
> If you know Hebrew, then you understand that third letter Gimel, means
> Camel.
>
Yes, I am aware of that. But your ancestors are Scottish, not
Hebrew.
> Now, I am not the anti-Christ, but I do come to destroy the works of
> the anti-Christ.
>
I never said you were the Antichrist, I said you were acting like
the dragon who gives power to the beast.
> Yes, I could tell you more, but I think you need milk (basic
> principles of faith) before I give you meat (mysteries of the kingdom
> of God).
>
I suppose you mix the two often!!
> Joshua Israel <?}}}><
>
> PS: Moses wrote the Old Testament in Egyptian,
Absolute fantasy. And extremely unlikely, as I have said
above.
> and what you have is a
> Hebrew translation,
The Masoretic text uses Hebrew characters rather than Ancient
Semitic/Phoenician characters. That is the difference.
> and Jesus spoke Aramaic,
True, but immaterial.
> the language of the
> Hebrew patriarchs,
The Hebrew patriarchs would have spoken Ancient Hebrew. Your
history is very bad.
> and the New Testament is a Greek translation of
> what Jesus said, so you have not the original tongues to brag about,
> but just corrupt translations.
The New Testament is a Greek account of what some people said that
Jesus said. It is second-hand information at best.
>But we Latter-day Saints have a good
> translation of the Book of Mormon, thank God it was translated by the
> power of God.
Considering it was first written in English, you didn't need a
translation.
Pat Harrington
I agree with you!! Somehow I think "Joshua's Test" is a bit like
a judge saying that material is obscene if it gives you an erection.
So much for the impotent judge, then. Everything's OK!!! You won't
get a rise out of him.
Yes, I would have thought more than 3 people would be required.
I think it also would require the people to be compus mentus, as well.
Josef Oswald
in MSG-id: <7517a083.05031...@posting.google.com>
Pat Harrington answered:
<snip>
>> Let me you put at ease, there are things in place which the God of
>> Glory has hid from the world, to show forth his wisdom and majesty in
>> delivering the House of Israel from the powers of evil.
>>
>
> But Israel is not under the powers of evil. So you have a false
> premiss and any remedy would, then, also be false.
>
http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html
In Isaiah 45:7, the prophet describes God's creation plan when he reports that,
*I form the light, and create darkness*
*I make peace, and create evil*
*I the Lord do all these things*
</unqoute>
>> As you already know, Moses was confronted by the powers of evil, but
>> God was always one step ahead of evil, am I correct?
>>
>
> There is nothing that is not God. Does this answer your
> question?
So then evil is in fact coming from God (as seen from the above) was
then the Holocaust something God planned, and put as a choice before
people in Hitler's Nazi-Reich?
If God is in charge and there is no opposing force active in human
beings, how can we understand evil?
If you have some Web-site that deals with this question, I would
appreciate it.
<snip>
Josef Oswald
--
Attorney General Edwin Meese III explained why the Supreme Court's Miranda
decision (holding that subjects have a right to remain silent and have a
lawyer present during questioning) is unnecessary: "You don't have many
suspects who are innocent of a crime. That's contradictory. If a person
is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect."
-- U.S. News and World Report, 10/14/85
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<J.Oswald@pure_joy_gods.love> wrote:
>If you have some Web-site that deals with this question, I would
>appreciate it.
>
><snip>
>
>Josef Oswald
To the wise one,
It is known but to a few, that Lucifer discovered this earth first,
and for having discovered our world, was given the keys of this earth,
which he took with him.
Also, the keys of this earth are the powers to command the elements of
this earth obey.
Therefore, it is the power of God, which was given to Lucifer.
However, the keys of the universe were given to Jehovah *Jesus*.
The warfare between Lucifer and Jehovah continues over who has the
right to hold he keys of this earth.
It is all made plain by the prophets, but only the wise seek to
understand it. Therefore, there can be no evil, if the Holy Ghost does
not allow it, and even the bullet that kills the prophets are carried
to it mark, by the power of the Holy Ghost, for he controls the forces
of gravity.
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
PS: This line of thinking can be used with closed minded Jews, who
reject Jesus Christ. If you are seeking advance learning, look towards
the light, not the dark waters of spiritual Babylon.
Pat Harrington
> Earth-Date: 2005-03-16
> in MSG-id: <7517a083.05031...@posting.google.com>
> Pat Harrington answered:
>
> <snip>
> >> Let me you put at ease, there are things in place which the God of
> >> Glory has hid from the world, to show forth his wisdom and majesty in
> >> delivering the House of Israel from the powers of evil.
> >>
> >
> > But Israel is not under the powers of evil. So you have a false
> > premiss and any remedy would, then, also be false.
>
> >
> http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html
>
> In Isaiah 45:7, the prophet describes God's creation plan when he reports that,
>
> *I form the light, and create darkness*
> *I make peace, and create evil*
> *I the Lord do all these things*
>
> </unqoute>
>
> >> As you already know, Moses was confronted by the powers of evil, but
> >> God was always one step ahead of evil, am I correct?
> >>
> >
> > There is nothing that is not God. Does this answer your
> > question?
>
> So then evil is in fact coming from God (as seen from the above) was
> then the Holocaust something God planned, and put as a choice before
> people in Hitler's Nazi-Reich?
>
> If God is in charge and there is no opposing force active in human
> beings, how can we understand evil?
>
I have no website but I will do my best to offer my views on the
problem of evil.
Basically, events occur. We view them and, based on our
environment and knowledge, decide whether the event seems good or
evil. Good and evil are opinions that come from within us. This is
why some people were glad about September 11, and others were not.
I'm not advocating the act but it's clear to see that it was viewed by
some as good and by others as evil. So you then have to ask, "Is
there an objective viewpoint?" The only viewpoint that could be
objective is God's. Since God has access to all of the facts and we
do not, it becomes impossible to know the REAL reason behind certain
events. Without omniscience, one can never know the whole picture.
On a personal level, we feel that an act is evil if we feel that,
had we performed the act, we would feel ashamed. This harkens back to
the Adam and Eve story. They were told only one thing NOT to do. And
when they did it, they felt shame. It is shame itself that IS the
fruit of the tree of knowledge between good and evil. But we only
feel shame because we don't know the whole picture. If we knew what
would come from our works, we might see that we learned an important
lesson that we might not have otherwise learned. And we can pass that
knowledge on to others. It is my belief that evil is part of God's
plan for us to learn and to spread knowledge.
As you may have read in a previous post of mine, I describe
myself as a monist. I believe that all the energy in the universe is
one object. I base this on my understanding of M-theory physics. In
M-theory physics, the universe is 11-dimensional. There is the
4-dimensions of our space-time continuum and a 7-dimensional
Calabi-Yau space, which is a conglomeration of rolled up dimensions
that is attached to every quantum of energy. If one of the dimensions
in the Calabi-Yau space is a referential dimension, that is, a
dimension in which there is only one coordinate point, all the quanta
of energy in the universe would be tied together at that point
throughout all time. This would not change the mathematics of
M-theory physics but it would give a reference point for every quantum
to every other quantum and it clears up the "problem" of the EPR
effect, which is the relationship between two paired particles and how
they "know about" each other's spin quality. They "know" because they
are tied together in an unseen realm; they have a reference to each
other though the referential dimension.
So, all quanta are tied together as one object. I call this
object "the set of all energy" and I equate it with God. There is no
place in the space-time continuum where it is not, so this object is
omnipresent. All actions within the space-time continuum are
performed by this object, i.e., everything that has ever been done or
that will ever be done is performed by this object; therefore, this
object is omnipotent. Since this object is the only thing that is, it
must also be the only thing that really knows anything. So, this
object is omniscient. Because it is omnipresent, omnipotent and
omniscient, it fits the standard litmus test for Godhood.
Our relationship to God is like being a cell in the body. Our
individual consciousnesses are like neurons in the mind of God. AS we
act, HE acts. AS we learn, HE learns. This is the meaning of "God
works through his creation". (And the logic behind the dictum of
"Love thy neighbour AS thyself", because there is only one object and
you're it.) Since one of our brain cells doesn't know what any of the
others do, although it can communicate, so we don't know what is in
each other's minds, yet we can pass information. Note: If I'm not
careful, my entire book will be written here! But I'm hoping you're
seeing my viewpoint. There is no way for any one neuron to know what
the brain is really doing or how it fits into the whole, yet it DOES
fit into the whole.
Our limited knowledge prevents us from seeing the big picture so
we have to rely on what knowledge we have acquired to get us through
our lives. We form opinions about actions. Some actions are
life-affirming and these are quite clearly good. Other actions limit
life and, thus, limit the transfer of information and these we see as
bad or evil.
So why is the passing of information so important to God? It is
my conjecture that information is stored in a plane of existence (the
more scientific definition would be a field) that is supported by the
quantum fluctuations of quanta across one or more Calabi-Yau
dimensions and our space-time. The current hypothesis has to do with
quantum fluctuations within tubulin molecules that exist throughout
our neural system. The following site has more information:
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/QuanCon.html
It is my belief that God can "grow" in this field as more information
is gathered over time. From God's point of view, all time happens at
once, yet time still passes for the quanta. So, for all knowledge to
be present to God, it has to be gathered over time from within. It is
this growth of consciousness that is the entire "meaning of life". It
is the goal, whose posts always move before us.
This is my "in-a-nutshell" take on "the problem of evil". There
will be a book forthcoming with many more details filled in such as
the metaphysics behind it and the differing yet similar ways that
different religions view it. By all means, though, if you have any
more specific questions, I'll be glad to do my best to explain.
Cheers,
Pat
Pat Harrington
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:55:59 GMT, Josef Oswald
> <J.Oswald@pure_joy_gods.love> wrote:
>
> >If you have some Web-site that deals with this question, I would
> >appreciate it.
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >Josef Oswald
>
> To the wise one,
>
> It is known but to a few, that Lucifer discovered this earth first,
> and for having discovered our world, was given the keys of this earth,
> which he took with him.
>
How could Lucifer have discovered the Earth before God created it?
God comes first and last, as there is no other.
> Also, the keys of this earth are the powers to command the elements of
> this earth obey.
>
> Therefore, it is the power of God, which was given to Lucifer.
>
If Lucifer has any power, it is because you speak of it. What
power do gods or demons have if no one knows of them?
> However, the keys of the universe were given to Jehovah *Jesus*.
>
You confuse God with men.
> The warfare between Lucifer and Jehovah continues over who has the
> right to hold he keys of this earth.
>
The battle is within.
> It is all made plain by the prophets, but only the wise seek to
> understand it. Therefore, there can be no evil, if the Holy Ghost does
> not allow it, and even the bullet that kills the prophets are carried
> to it mark, by the power of the Holy Ghost, for he controls the forces
> of gravity.
>
It might be made plain by the prophets but it has been severely
muddled by you.
gig...@netscape.net
they will no longer allow it on the streets where -you- live
in Europe?
bd4u
Susan Cohen
> "Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
> news:<klug31pin98v7fmpu...@4ax.com>...
>>
>>
>> reject Jesus Christ.
Good thing it's as ineffectual as it is bigoted & arrogant.
Susan
Josef Oswald
in MSG-id: <1111022912.1...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
> You are a *moonie* and Prosylatizing Moons ideas, is it because
> they will no longer allow it on the streets where -you- live
> in Europe?
You don't have a clue do you? There are no laws regarding
Street-witnessing here where I live.
Besides I didn't bring up any teaching of Rev.Moon in this tread,
because I wanted to learn something from Jews:
How can evil understood if God himself sends Satan as his loyal servant
to tempt people.
This was a question I asked *you* several times, but you side-stepped it
every time....
>
> bd4u
Josef Oswald
--
Humor in the Court:
Q: What is your relationship with the plaintiff?
A: She is my daughter.
Q: Was she your daughter on February 13, 1979?
Josef Oswald
So in a way you're saying we will not understand why things like the
Holocaust happened? I mean for Jews this is one of the worst tragedies
that ever happened, and some Jews lost faith in God while they were in
the Concentration camps, while others found it.
Shall Jews then stop accusing the Nazis for this?
Thanks for taking the time to respond :-)
Josef Oswald
--
Fortune's Real-Life Courtroom Quote #18:
!
Q: Are you married?
A: No, I'm divorced.
Q: And what did your husband do before you divorced him?
A: A lot of things I didn't know about.
Pat Harrington
> > "Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
> > news:<klug31pin98v7fmpu...@4ax.com>...
> >>
> >>
> >> PS: This line of thinking can be used with closed minded Jews, who
> >> reject Jesus Christ.
>
> Good thing it's as ineffectual as it is bigoted & arrogant.
>
> Susan
>
Yes, it doesn't exactly come across as endearing, does it?
Pat Harrington
Since each of us interprets the same event differently, the
actions we take have to be made by the individual. How individuals
respond is up to them. It may make some Jews feel better to vent a
bit of wrath and it may make others feel better to let it go. It's
certainly not for me to say how others should react any more than it
would be right of any one person saying someone else should or
shouldn't feel a certain way. Our feelings are our own and they are
real and we must act on them in a way that is conscionable.
gig...@netscape.net
You are the one without a clue, all I did was ask -you- a question.
The reason I ask it is because -you- are ALWAYS on the Internet
promoting
MOON!
>
> Besides I didn't bring up any teaching of Rev.Moon in this tread,
> because I wanted to learn something from Jews:
If -you- think I believe that, -you- are one crazy *moonie*.
>
> How can evil understood if God himself sends Satan as his loyal
servant
> to tempt people.
That's not wanting to learn, that's wanting to prove something
to the world about MOON, and what he teaches about Good and Evil.
>
> This was a question I asked *you* several times, but you side-stepped
it
> every time....
That's because I know MOON's answers to it, and I know -you-
ain't here to learn, but to reprove Moon for everyone.
You know what the Jews teach as well as anyone, you aint
asking questions, -you- are arrogantly challenging them.
An then life goes on for some..
bd4u
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
>it's as ineffectual as it is bigoted & arrogant.
>
>Susan
>
>If you are seeking advance learning, look towards
>>> the light, not the dark waters of spiritual Babylon.
>
It is easy for a person who has been abuse to become cold heart
towards your bigoted & arrogant manner here in a Mormon newsgroup, but
you love to cross post, and when a Mormon replies, you then accuse him
of cross posting to a Jewish newsgroup. If the power of the original
poster was out to make trouble between Jews and Mormon, and cross
posted so a Mormon would reply post, without checking the headers to
weed out the Jewish newsgroup, because he was a Jew and was hiding out
in your newsgroup and cross posting over to our newsgroup, then the
blame goes to the original poster, the Jew who is a Troll, but that is
no justification for you to label us Mormons "bigoted & arrogant" in
our newsgroup, because we have the courage to answer back!
Don't you understand anything Susan, we Mormon have indoctrinate by
all your televised bigoted and arrogant documentaries about not
STANDING UP TO EVIL, which the Jew are renown for, for the majority of
the Jews never could believe that Hitler was evil, who even may have
been the brokers who were the secret backers of Hitler Nazi regime,
therefore, it not we Mormons that are the bigoted and arrogant for
standing up to your mouthing evil, because this is what we learn by
the mistakes of passive Jews that were bigoted for Hitler and arrogant
toward their own kind, yes, from all the self-hating groupie Jewish
elite; who could foresee the evil of Hitler, yes the best could not
see, so what make you think anything has changed today? However, that
does nothing to prove your point by just giving handing our labels,
like the way the Germans handed out yellow stars for patches. We
Mormons would rather die today, than live with the shame of a patch,
given by a Moron patch maker, but then that the difference between me
and you, you take pride in your shame, and brag about it being an
honor to wear the Moron patch that Hitler gave out. What a shame, you
think that evil is good, and good for standing up is evil. So you only
have all your documentaries to blame for me showing a public spirit
and standing up for my kind, yes, I do show empathy for my kind; for
no one here is going to allow you to treat Mormons the way the Germans
treated the self-hating Jews, who passively accept Hitler with apathy
until it was too late.
Is the best you can do?
I have explain my disagreements with you, and I am more justified that
you are, so be the false labeler that you are, but you don't fool any
Jews or Mormons who know better, and I bet you are not even Jewish.
Prove your point or about all Jews being bigoted & arrogant, or shut
the F---- up!
Joshua
PS: IF you want to dish it out, be prepared to take some of it back,
silly Susan.
Jong Kim
> Art Bulla wrote:
> > WHY I AM THAT ONE WHO SHOULD COME
>
>
> his wife and children and having been submitted for involuntary
> commitment as a madman by the authorities. Bulla is currently hiding out
> in a shack in Baja, Mexico like the coward he is. Before you read *his
> words*, you may wish to look at a photo of his shack, that he posted
> himself:
>
> Photo of Bulla's hideout shack [thnx to Kevin Zoellner for retrieving
> it]: http://home.comcast.net/%7Ek.zoellner/averyfinehouse.html
>
>
> NOW,
>
> *Bulla in his own words*:
>
>
> Sheriff's deputies came with handcuffs led by my brother in law, Clyde.
> My family had been stolen from me by boy scouts with pickup trucks,
> traiterous mother-in-law, suborned stake authorities, etc.
>
> [...]
>
> They brought me handcuffed for trial for involuntary commitmnet. I had
> flowers in one hand for my wife and candy for the children whom I had
> not seen in two weeks.
>
From the California shore to New York City
The beat don't never stop
You can hear it on the radio anywhere you go
It's steady as the rhythm of a clock
It cuts through the noise of the city life
It won't seem to go away
IT'S THE DEVIL IN DISGUISE I TELL YOU NO LIES
JJ Cale.
We have you documented as a perverse liar. Here are some direct quotes of
you:
#1 "The God of Christ is LOVE. God is Love."
#2 "So where's the Ark, fuckhead?"
#3 "Mr. Bulla and the LDS Church make up lots of words. Isn't it
delightsome?
Have you seen any cureloms or cumoms lately? They got the word elephant
right however. Too bad there weren't any, like Mr. Smith Junior claimed,
that existed in meso-america during the purported BOM times."
Elephant/mastodon bones have been found all over North America that the
Jaredites once inhabited, and you got that mixed up with the BoM's account
of the people of Lehi getting started in South America and going up to
Mesoamerica. Since Sadducees are foul mouthed and ignorant of the
scriptures, as Josephus testified, maybe you weren't deliberately lying
about Mesoamerica. But your above words clearly demonstrate that you do lie
about believing in the existence of God and having compassion for the
downtrodden of the earth. You might as well say Peter Pan is the Christ,
judging by your statement #1, coupled with your utter denial of the ark of
Noah in #2. I could even try to excuse you on the Book of Mormon containing
information on elephants in ancient North America before approx. 600 B.C.,
saying that well this John Manning is a sectarian. But your blasphemies
directed also against the Prophet Moses and the God of O.T., as if God is a
changeable being, for the God of O.T. is same as the God of N.T., show that
you are a shameless character continually blaspheming against the Holy Ghost
with glee and the basest liar, insincerely praising the Lord whom you loathe
by saying Christ is love in order to gain the praise of men. And you've also
advocated murdering me, a fellow from the land of Sinim (Isaiah 49:12, 1
Nephi 21:12), as the Spirit of revelation did testify to me last year while
reading Isaiah 49 (basically same revelation was received concerning me by
Art in the summer of 2000):
#4 "I don't think he'll 'get it', Dale. It might take professional help or
a brick to the side of his head from someone he actually manages to offend
who takes him for anything more than a rubber room candidate."
And you subsequently denied that's what you meant. Are you a liar or what?
Even Dale Broadhurst, who is a Latter-day Pharisee as you are a Latter-day
Sadducee, admitted that you basically ended up saying I should be killed. As
Jesus of Nazareth said, "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth
speaketh." You believe that God and Noah don't exist and believe in
evolution, but lie by saying Christ is love whatever that means to you or
anyone. You've openly advocated the destruction of Art Bulla and me, and lie
by denying that such was your intent concerning me. And you lie when you
deny that elephants and other peculiar animals inhabited ancient North
America, which is same as arguing with signposts. It's like saying 2+2=3 or
the Sun ain't shining when it's broad daylight.
And now you've twisted Art's words to mean something you desire that they
should mean, in order to keep people from believing in Israel's God and His
Eyewitness sent to this generation with all the keys and powers of the
Apostleship. And also, in hopes that your deeds here might help to bring
about the destruction of Art Bulla. I travelled with Art to North Carolina
in Dec. 2003 and met his parents and the rest of his family. It went well
except they again declined to yield to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He
travelled by himself back to North Carolina last November (2004). There's
nothing on him. He is not at all like a Brian Mitchell or a David Berg, all
false prophets who have destroyed lives. Nor is he like another type of
false prophet like a Billy Graham or a Sun Myung Moon. People like that
escape the fate of true prophets such as Joseph Smith and Art Bulla, which
is to be 'dissed' by their own people, most especially by their own family.
"For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own
country." John 4:44.
And I've received a revelation concerning Art and his wife:
5 ś Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the
doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
6 For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her
mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies [are]
the men of his own house.
7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my
salvation: my God will hear me.
(Old Testament | Micah 7:5 - 7)
The Holy Ghost has already revealed me weeks ago that this passage from the
Book of Micah is a specific prophecy of the One Mighty and Strong, who is
Art Bulla. For Apostle Art had already told me that he made a mistake of
confiding to his wife about the true identity of Joseph Smith given him by a
revelation of Jesus Christ, and because of this she went over the edge (she
used this as a pretext to demonstrate that this shows Art is a mad man that
should be locked up in a hospital, but that's against the Constitution of
the United States -- the freedom of religion without impinging on other
people's rights), already under heavy pressure from her mother to divorce
him, who was hated of his haughty mother-in-law from the very beginning. At
that point, she was already weary of the continual insults and persecutions
that Art and his family had to endure because he against the wishes of her
and her control freak mother, dared to obey the Holy Ghost and actually
preach the pure religion of Jesus and Peter and Joseph and Brigham! In his
home state of North Carolina, every chance he had. The Lord knowing the end
from the beginning, had revealed his secret to his servant Micah, centuries
before it had actually occurred in time.
Now let me tell you more about *your* character. You defame and slander the
Lord's servant, because you have an axe to grind against the God of Abraham,
Isaac and Jacob. But I tell the truth about your character, that you are a
filthy Gentile of a Danite disposition. The Lord said "By their fruits ye
shall know them", so I know by your evil words and works that you manifest
the character of Dan and of his temporally blessed seed. See, we are all of
a mixed heritage, south of the scriptural "north country"/"north countries"
where the lost tribes of Israel happily dwell. You have the blood of Ephraim
in you for sure, in the flesh. But that is not your dominant trait, which is
of Dan. And you've been overcome by your weaknesses in the flesh and the
devil took full advantage of it, so you are his servant now. Your spirit
housed in your body made a conscious decision to take the forbidden path.
It's your fault. Have been for a long time, a vessel reserved unto wrath.
See, this is what Dan did to his brother and leader, Joseph the father of
Manasseh and Ephraim:
1 And it came to pass, Joseph was in the desert seeking his brethren and
they seized upon him, and mocked him, saying: behold, our prince is come
unto us. Mayest thou live long, and may thy kingdom be forever!
2 And they worshipped him in mocking fashion, saying, have mercy on us O
king! Save us, O mighty one!
3 And they seized upon Joseph to kill him. And Dan drew his sword and thrust
it into the side of Joseph, howbeit it pierced not his flesh.
4 And all who stood by were astonished. And Reuben said, Verily, the Lord
hath surely chosen him, and the power of the Most High dwelleth with him.
5 Suffer not our hands to shed his blood, for his blood should surely cry up
to the Lord against us, and great would be the curse against our children
unto seven generations.
6 Yea, rather, let us cast him into a pit wherein he may perish for lack of
meat or may be eaten by wild beasts, and thus shall our hands be free of his
blood. And so they seized the tunic which Jacob had made for Joseph and cast
Joseph into a pit naked for to die.
Book of Joseph 5:1-6
The Book of Joseph, perhaps as controversial as the Book of Abraham among
some anti-Mormons, has been revealed unto Art that it verily is of the Lord,
and soon afterwards, the same Spirit confirmed it to me while praying. This
was about a year ago. (For now, however, it has not been canonized. Hardly
anybody accepts the BoA to begin with.) Also, the above passage is
consistent with a last days prophecy from the Old Testament (note verse 14
on Dan):
9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will
cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear
day:
10 And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into
lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon
every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only [son], and the end
thereof as a bitter day.
11 ś Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in
the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the
words of the LORD:
12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the
east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not
find [it].
13 In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth;
and, The manner of Beer-sheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise
up again.
(Old Testament | Amos 8:9 - 14)
Gold and silver and the praise of the world. Money, power, promiscuity,
self-exaltation. Idolatry. Yea, serving Mammon with all their might, mind
and strength. Build up the 'Tower of Babylon' once again.
Like Dan, you desire to destroy Joseph and his seed, but you will find out
to your everlasting shame that it's not going to be.
Even the greatest of Danites, yea Samson who is verily the inspiration for
the Grecian myth of Hercules, erred grievously, over and over (at least he
performed the ultimate sacrifice). Couldn't handle his blessings, being
oft-times spiritually corrupt. Mingled his seed with the Philistine woman,
yea even Cain. This is a cursed tribe of Israel, and in fact the members
thereof shall find themselves cast out at last (making it no higher than the
terrestrial resurrection), if they do not repent of their follies and of
their pride and join themselves wholeheartedly to the house of Joseph,
Ephraim being the birthright tribe of Israel. Revelation 7:4-8 passage shows
that in the end, the black sheep tribe of Dan shall definitely *not* be
accounted one of the twelve tribes of Israel, being replaced by the tribe of
Manasses (Manasseh), the brother of Ephraim.
19 Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs: bright iron,
cassia, and calamus, were in thy market.
(Old Testament | Ezekiel 27:19)
Javan was one of the sons of Japheth, and from the seed of Javan arose the
great Gentile nation of the Greeks, and the idolatrous tribe of Dan
successively wandered away from their Hebrew brethren and migrated all over
Europe, mingling with the Gentile nations thereof. The Spartans in
particular were ruled by people of Danite origin (evidenced in Josephus's
record), and hence their temporal greatness for a season. The great Don
River of Russia and the great Danube River of Germany. The fact that the
Greek army is often called the Danaans in The Iliad. The nation of Denmark
which means the mark of Dan. Notice a pattern? The Spanish title of Don I
wonder about too, as well as the particular brutality of the Normans in
their dealings with their conquered Saxon brethren in Angleland. You do what
comes natural to you, and the natural man is an enemy to God, as you often
openly acknowledge your intense hatred of the ways of Jehovah and His
anointed Moses (as well as Joseph and Art), and then turn around and
insincerely say that Christ is love, whatever that means. And did not some
of the Macedonian successors of Alexander the Great severely persecute the
nation of the Jews? Thank God the vigorous nation of Scipio Africanus, even
Rome, eventually subjugated the Greek states, though there were still many
good denizens of Grecia remaining, such as are anti-Manning in spirit. To be
anti-Manning is to be anti-Satan.
#5 "I'm Irish. Bulla is a racist hatemonger."
You say you are of Irish origin and that may be one true statement you've
made (not the second sentence of #5), but did you know that the seed of Dan
is also found in Ireland as well?
17 Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher
continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.
(Old Testament | Judges 5:17)
"As I have said before, the Tuatha de Danaan were the best and the
brightest - the fairest of all people. They were said to have arrived in
Ireland, not in ships but on dark clouds so that it was believed they had
descended from the heavens."
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/7841/tuatha.html
Sorry, not totally scriptural, as the Prophet Art Bulla has taught me this:
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I
will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein
they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim [is] my
firstborn.
(Old Testament | Jeremiah 31:9)
Tuatha De Danaan
PLURAL NOUN: The pre-Christian gods of Ireland, sometimes represented as
heroes or fairies. ETYMOLOGY:Old Irish, tribes of the goddess Dana : tuatha,
pl. of túath, people, tribe + dé, genitive of, goddess + Danaan, genitive of
Dana, Dana (Celtic mother goddess).
http://www.bartleby.com/61/88/T0398850.html
Mmm ... hmm ... a pagan Greek-like idolatry, yes the very idolatry
characteristic of the tribe of Dan, who tried vainly to murder Joseph of the
coat of many colours. Yeah, he pulled the 'trigger', didn't he? But the God
of Jacob had other plans. And Joseph forgave him and his other brethren in
Egypt!
"To err is human, to forgive, divine." Alexander Pope.
"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of
these [is] charity." Apostle Paul. (1 Corinthians 13:13)
"Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a
good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned:" Apostle Paul. (1 Timothy 1:5)
The seed of Jesus Christ were spirited away into Ireland by His Apostles,
and from this holy seed has sprung the Prophets Joseph Smith, Hyrum Smith,
Art Bulla. John Manning, you are the chaff, a Latter-day Sadducee. You were
born into a LDS stock, and you've definitely *evolved* as a LDS, even unto
death.
23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
(New Testament | Romans 6:23)
I do judge you most unkindly for your evils. I have charity for all mankind
as is required of me by God, but no charity for devils. Indeed, it would be
sin to have charity for devils. "No Sympathy for the Devil". You are a
devil. You make Mick Jagger look like a saint. At least he is no hypocrite.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after
me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize
you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:
12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and
gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with
unquenchable fire.
(New Testament | Matthew 3:11 - 12)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall be
sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
--
"I'm the devil in disguise I tell you no lies." JJ Cale the Okie
Troubadour.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3
Jong Kim
> [...]
>
> Now after I had made my escape from the clutches of those evil men and
> women, I made my way back to my in Randolph Co., N.C. (we had a
> farmhouse which we heated in the winter by burning walnut cut offs from
> the furniture factories in High Point) and I had no money. And the
> spirit whispered for me to flee, for there was no mercy there, no one to
> turn to, and I took my wife's sewing machine to a second hand store in
> Greensboro for gas money.
>
> The Lord was in it for I made instant friends with the owner who was my
> age, and he stood out on the main street of Greensboro, and pointed to a
> building and said, "See that building? I own that building", it was
> about fifteen stories high. He pointed to several more, and said, "That
> one is full of refrigerators", etc. He said, he was a millionaire and
> that he was not as happy as when he had no money.
>
> He considered my plight for I told him of my wife and mother-in-law and
> the Mormons hunting me like some kind of deer.
>
> And he said that he had a truck and he would come with me at night and
> load up all the goods in the house and he offered to pay me a sum of
> money which would enable me to flee the state. I instantly accepted,
> for the goods were mine, and I did not regard any court has the right to
> dictate me in my family affairs, despite what the gentile mammon
> believes, and he and I loaded up everything except what I could carry in
> my car which was a Triumph Gt 6 hatchback. He drove the truck back to
> Greensboro when we had completed this.
>
> My wife stole the book of remembrance and I took the genealogy and the
> journal and a few other items and began camping out. Well they could
> not find me, and I decided to give Cathy one more chance, for we were
> very close and I just could not understand her betrayal (she took issue
> with the revelation I received on my Messiahship which I can explain if
> given the chance) and invented all sorts of lies about me subsequently
> even to my five children.
>
> Well the spirit told me to go to Utah, and I determined to leave
> that next morning. Well, the court put out a warrant for my arrest for
> contempt, and the spirit had whispered to me to camp out in Guilford
> Co., which I did, and they could not find me. Well I was leaving for the
> Tennessee border the next morning and I thought, well I would call her
> on[e] last time, and she said, in her old manner, "Let's talk"
>
> My heart lept for joy, I was such a fool. She said for me to meet her at
> old Carl's Grocery Story on Highway 220, at 10:00 pm.
>
> Carl was such a great friend and I was going to baptize him in a farm
> pond near there, where I had done other baptisms and will always love
> him for what he did, which I will later explain. Well,
>
> I was driving in my low slung green Triumph GT6 with wire wheels and an
> in-line six with two zenith-strombug carbeurators, to the appointment,
> when an audible voice above my head spoke in a clear voice and said,
> "They have the sheriff after you".
>
> I was completely duped to that point, Cathy knowing just how to speak to
> me on the phone, the right tone of voice, the words, etc.
>
> The scales of course then fell from my eyes, and I realized the danger I
> was in. The voice then commanded park the British sports car "behind
> that tree", which was situated almost directly across the highway from
> Carl's, and it was a bushy fern, which I obeyed. Well Cathy and her
> mother showed up at the appointed time, and Clara had a towel wrapped
> around her head.
>
> Cathy was driving and the first thing she said was "Where
> is you car?" I immediately said "You have the sheriff after me and we
> will have to go somewhere else, if you want to talk."
>
> Clara then said "would I be dressed like this, referring to the towel,
> if I was going to talk to the sheriff?" So her mother must have thought
> "This guy is smarter than I believed" for she always took me to be a
> simpleton as she did all men, commanded Cathy (Cathy had been in slavery
> to her mother before I met her, her mother had ruined three of her own
> marriages, and now wanted to ruin mine) to get out of the car and "talk
> to him".
>
> As I looked over Cathy's shoulder into the highway, I immediately saw
> three sheriff's patrol cars shoot past and they went to the wrong store
> a little down the highway, and realizing their mistake, for they saw us,
> turned around with lights and spots ablaze.
>
> Cathy's mother then jumped out of the car and pointed at me, "There he
> is! There he is!" I remember she still had the towel wrapped around her
> head, as they began their turn into Carl's small parking lot. Terror, of
> course seized me, and I sprang into action, and turned and ran for the
> woods above the railroad tracks behind Carl's Store, and hurtled
> pell mell straight into the thickest blackberry patch I had ever
> experienced in my life, for I had grown up in North Carolina, and used
> to pick blackberries for a pie my mother would make. They seemed to
> frequent railroad tracks a lot,
>
> and the over-weight sheriff's deputies balked at chasing me on foot,
> especially into the fearsome patch, and one of my relatives, a Bulla,
> was the Chief of Police in Asheboro.
>
> I finally reached the tracks I knew were there and crouched down and
> watched and waited apprehensively. They congregated milled about, and
> began searching for my car, for if they found it, they would have had me
> dead to rights, for this was a rural area. Their spotlights searched
> high and low, and the beams occasionaly would point crazily up in the air.
>
> Then my great friend Carl (who stood over six feet) came out of his
> store and in a loud voice which I could distinctly hear pierced the
> night air, and commanded to the crowd, "Get off of my property! Now!"
> which they then did.
>
> They searched for three hours for my Triumph, even though it was just
> across the street!
>
> When they finally gave up, and all was calm and deserted, with my heart
> in my throat, I made my way down to the highway and bolted across it,
> jumped in my Triumph, and was across the Tennessee state line a few
> hours later.
>
> I stopped at a pay phone and tried to call Cathy, for I was still in
> love with her, and she just hung up on me without saying a word. So I
> was delivered by the hand of the Lord, that I could sing my song and
> publish peace and say upon the mountains to Zion, "Thy God reigneth!"
>
> So that is the true story of my "desertion".
>
> Brigham Young "deserted" his wife and children on a sick bed to go to
> England on a mission, and my mission was to the decrepit and corrupt
> Mormons to try to reclaim them from the bondage of Babylon the Great
> to build Zion.
>
> Jesus "deserted" his wives and children to be hung on a piece of wood,
> worse than a common thief. If that is "desertion" so be it, for I love
> the Kingdom of God and its righteousness more than my life or even my
> children, though I wept many times over their situation.
>
> Eliza left home many times because the Mormons stole her from me, and
> she will today have nothing to do with the enlightened Mormons mob who
> robbed me of my family.
>
> See the Google Archive of his post here:
> http://tinyurl.com/6xlkf
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Harrington) wrote:
Go ye out from among the nations, even from Babylon, from the midst of
wickedness, which is spiritual Babylon.
And so it was, that spiritual Babylon was the spiritual name given to
Jerusalem by Jesus.
Now you only have the prophet Isaiah to blame, for he spoke of
spiritual Babylon as the waters that covered the world to fight
against City of the Great Kings, Jerusalem:
Woe to the multitude of many people [the United Nations], which make a
noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations [to do
battle with Israel], that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty
waters!
The [United] Nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but
God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be
chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a
rolling thing before the whirlwind.]
And behold at eveningtide [in the City of the Great Kings there is
seen from the sky] trouble; and before the morning [sunrise, the
waters rushing against Jerusalem are not found, for] he is not. This
is the portion of them that spoil [Jerusalem], and the lot of them
that rob [God's holy people].
YES, it is higher learning, that the prophets have always offered, but
a fool speaks against the wisdom of the wise, for he is without
understanding.
Joshua Israel <挿}}><
Susan Cohen
>
> a fool speaks against the wisdom of the wise, for he is without
> understanding.
Good boy; confession is good for your soul.
Susan
Susan Cohen
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 04:50:20 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flav...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>it's as ineffectual as it is bigoted & arrogant.
>>
>>Susan
>>
>>If you are seeking advance learning, look towards
>>>> the light, not the dark waters of spiritual Babylon.
>>
>
> It is easy for a person who has been abuse to become cold heart
> towards your bigoted & arrogant manner here in a Mormon newsgroup,
As I have told other arrogant bigots like you, being against bigotry is not
bigotry.
but
> you love to cross post, and when a Mormon replies, you then accuse him
> of cross posting to a Jewish newsgroup.
You lie, of course.
I do not initiate off-topic cross-posts.
If the power of the original
> poster was out to make trouble between Jews and Mormon, and cross
> posted so a Mormon would reply post, without checking the headers to
> weed out the Jewish newsgroup, because he was a Jew
You sick little liar!
It was YOUR BUDDY, ART BULLA!
and was hiding out
> in your newsgroup and cross posting over to our newsgroup, then the
> blame goes to the original poster, the Jew who is a Troll
What a pathetic little hatemonger you are!
Just see how hard you have to twist the facts to try & blame a Jew!!
, but that is
> no justification for you to label us Mormons "bigoted & arrogant"
Youlie yet again - I was saying that to YOU.
in
> our newsgroup, because we have the courage to answer back!
Total garbage, of course.
>
> Don't you understand anything Susan
More than you - as you show with each & every post.
, we Mormon have indoctrinate by
> all your televised bigoted and arrogant documentaries
You lie yet again.
It's getting tedious.
about not
> STANDING UP TO EVIL, which the Jew are renown for,
Like since Masada, tgo the Wrsaw Ghetto, to modern day Israel, right?
You are not only bigoted, but truly ignorant.
for the majority of
> the Jews never could believe that Hitler was evil,
Like the rest of the world - oh, no, wait - the rest of the world turned a
blind eye even after the truth was out.
& this includes Mormons, who you like to pretend are superior.
who even may have
> been the brokers who were the secret backers of Hitler Nazi regime,
Nice of you to continue to prove how right I am about how bigoted you are.
> therefore, it not we Mormons that are the bigoted and arrogant for
> standing up to your mouthing evil,
Wow, you really *are* desperate to distort the facts, aren't you?
Conflating the Holocaust with your inappropriate newsgroup posts?
You're not just desperate, you're SICK.
because this is what we learn by
> the mistakes of passive Jews that were bigoted for Hitler
You lie, sick little bigot.
and arrogant
> toward their own kind, yes, from all the self-hating groupie Jewish
> elite; who could foresee the evil of Hitler, yes the best could not
> see, so what make you think anything has changed today?
Nothing has changed in that people like you are ready to lie abut Jews, as
well as change the subject from persecution of Jews when it suits them.
However, that
> does nothing to prove your point by just giving handing our labels,
> like the way the Germans handed out yellow stars for patches.
Just how desperate are you to try to hide the truth?
You are proselytizing on a Jewish newsgroup.
You are being extremely arrogant & bigoted, and no amount of lying on your
part, or pretending that my pointing *out* your arrogance & bigotry is
"Nazi-esque" is going to change that.
We
> Mormons would rather die today, than live with the shame of a patch,
> given by a Moron patch maker, but then that the difference between me
> and you, you take pride in your shame, and brag about it being an
> honor to wear the Moron patch that Hitler gave out.
Thank you for continuing to show how right I am about how bigoted you are.
What a shame, you
> think that evil is good, and good for standing up is evil.
You lie, of course.
So you only
> have all your documentaries to blame for me showing a public spirit
> and standing up for my kind,
And more lies, of course.
Standing up for your own kind" is NOT the same as proselytizing on a Jewish
newsgriup.
And "standing up for your own kind" is NOT lying about other people the way
you have done throughout this entire post.
yes, I do show empathy for my kind; for
> no one here is going to allow you to treat Mormons the way the Germans
> treated the self-hating Jews, who passively accept Hitler with apathy
> until it was too late.
>
> Is the best you can do?
It's the best you can pretend, that's for sure.
>
> I have explain my disagreements with you, and I am more justified that
> you are,
No, of course you are not, and you have shown that you are not.
so be the false labeler that you are, but you don't fool any
> Jews or Mormons who know better, and I bet you are not even Jewish.
More & more desperate.
What a loser you are.
>
> Prove your point
I have, and you have helped me prove it, several times over.
Proselytizing on a Jewish newsgroup is bigoted & arrogant.
The fact that you have had to lie, many times over, in your convoluted &
just plain sick "defense" of this practice only proves that I am right about
how wrong such a thing is.
> or about all Jews being bigoted & arrogant,
You're the scumbag who is saying this, not me.
or shut
> the F---- up!
Oh, & now you actually *admit* to be a loser with this language & request.
>
> Joshua
>
> PS: IF you want to dish it out, be prepared to take some of it back,
> silly Susan.
You pathetic little loser.
You really think you're adequate in any way, don't you?
Susan
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
GENOCIDE has always been a part of Jewish 'Hereditas Mea', so you
should not talk, but learn your about your roots first, before setting
out to talk others following your eamples, hypocrite!
The Jewish forces committed their genocide under the strict guidelines
established by Moses in Deuteronomy chapter 20. He told them that in
the lands set aside to become Israel, Jews should exterminate every
inhabitant, while people in surrounding nations had to die unless they
submitted themselves as slaves to Israel.
When you draw near a city to fight against it, offer terms of
peace to it. And if its answer to you is peace and it opens to you,
then all the people who are found in it shall do forced labor for you
and shall serve you. But if it makes no peace with you . . . you shall
put all its males to the sword, but the women and the little ones, the
cattle, and everything else in the city, all its spoil, you shall take
as booty for yourselves; and you shall enjoy the spoil of your enemies
. . . Thus you shall do to all of the cities which are very far from
you, which are not cities of the nations here.
But in the cities of these people that the Lord your God gives you
for an inheritance you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you
shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amorites, the
Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and Jebusites, . . .
(Deuteronomy 20:10-18)1
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:29:14 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
<n...@non.net> wrote:
>>You really think you're adequate in any way, don't you?
>>
>>Susan
>>
YES I AM BETTER THAN YOU, THAT IS THE POINT, I am not a hypocrite!
GENOCIDE has always been a part of Jewish 'Hereditas Mea', so you
should not talk, but learn your about your roots first, before setting
out to talk [about] others following your [examples]. [You] hypocrite!
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
>confession is good for your soul.
>
>Susan
NOT if you a hypocrite! It's back to the same old Susan!
Joshua
Susan Cohen
> correction:
>
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:29:14 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
> <n...@non.net> wrote:
>
>>>You really think you're adequate in any way, don't you?
>>>
>>>Susan
>>>
> YES I AM BETTER THAN YOU, THAT IS THE POINT, I am not a hypocrite!
Wow, wrong on both counts.
>
> GENOCIDE has always been a part of Jewish 'Hereditas Mea',
You obviously know that you are wrong, or you wouldn't keep trying to change
the subject so often.
You are proselytizing on a Jewish newsgroup, which makes you an arrogant
bigot.
& the lies you tell about Jews confirm this.
Susan
Susan Cohen
Repeating this stupidity while showing that you can make no answer to
ANYTHING that I have posted not only proves how wrong you are, but that you
know it, too.
Stop proselytizing on a Jewish newsgroup, arrogant bigot, and stop lying
about Jews to cover it up.
Susan
Windows Update
Just about every critic and person that posts to this group has read it, and
the first thing they ask is "WOW! That is some impressive Usenet post. Who
wrote it?". Well, because this is an Anti-Scientology newsgroup, not
everyone here might be "TOTALLY" up on their current events about Jesus and
God.
http://larryontheweb.freeservers.com
© 2005 Lawrence Toomajan
+++++++++++++++
"Susan Cohen" <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:52:19 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flav...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>confession is good for your soul.
>>
>>Susan
>
> NOT if you a hypocrite!
Yes, especially if you are a hypocrite.
Proselytizing on a Jewish newsgroup but retending that you *aren't* an
arrogant bigot makes you a hypocrite.
> It's back to the same old Susan!
Wow, a double non sequitur
You are dumber than even I thought.
Susan
Susan Cohen
"Windows Update" <(no spam) La...@toomajan.org> wrote in message
news:wXn_d.7773$qN3.5748@trndny01...
> This is one of the most on topic posts in all of Usenet.
>
> Just about every critic and person that posts to this group has read it,
> and the first thing they ask is "WOW! That is some impressive Usenet post.
> Who wrote it?". Well, because this is an Anti-Scientology newsgroup, not
> everyone here might be "TOTALLY" up on their current events about Jesus
> and God.
Your sarcasm aside, the point is that the previous poster insists on
proselytizing to a Jewish newagroup, and when he is called on it, blusters &
lies & does everything but address that fact.
Susan
DumberThanSnot
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
>stop lying about Jews to cover it up.
>
>Susan
Susan, Susanna, little Susie, listen well, How will the serpent ever
lose it venom if you do not stop persecuting it?
Can't you understand the evolutionary needs for survival? Are you so
sickly ignorant?
How do I know?
Because the Jewish Conformists are not superior in the evolutionary
chain, they are not fit to become the modern man.
Your Peter Pan advice is a standard that only conform to you're
backwards ideology, because you have been swingled by an artistry of
glittering fools to follow the orthodoxy.
Wise up or get left behind, for you have been robbed of your honor.
Joshua Israel <挿}}><
Pat Harrington
Well! I guess she showed you!! Face to face, you wouldn't have
the balls to speak to anyone like that, I bet. Much less a woman. My
what a big boy you are. Wouldn't your mother be proud of her little
boy, now. A man would walk away. You, you probably came on yourself
after that little catharsis at the end. If you EVER actually become
known for anything good in the future, rest assured that these words
WILL be used against you in the public forum. You have damned your
cause and discredited yourself and your sad little prophet and your
God. You couldn't have made your eventual ruination any easier.
LOL!! Rest In Pieces.
Pat Harrington
Nevermind, Susan. He's finished himself AND Bulla with that
outburst. No one would believe he was on the right track after that.
He's the kind of man that hangs himself with a rope that's too long.
Not because he's afraid of dying but because he's a genuine schlemiel.
So much so he probably invented spilling soup.
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
>You are dumber than even I thought.
>
>Susan
Now you manage to graduate from hypocrite to Idiot. Don't you know,
your Satan's spawn, and the devil's child, are demonic people, and
they can't think for themselves.
It not Susan, who talking, but the demon that controls Susan. I know,
by and by, you will attack everyone and anyone, what a shame. Before
you came here, I liked Jews, but after dealing with you, now I know
what the poor Moslems had to put up with, for over 3000 years, and
instead of giving money to Jews who like to slap in my face like you
have, I will now give double to the Moslems, because you are brought
up thinking you are superior to Aryans, and your not! That is the real
reason Jew hated Jesus Christ, because Jesus had blond hair and blue
eyes like his father God, and was superior to the Jewish race. The
only reason Jesus was born Jewish was because he came to save the most
wicked people whoever walked this earth, next to the most wicked
people in the universe who lived before the great flood. Yes, unto
whomever much is given, much is required, and after the Jews saw the
glory of God, the Jews made themselves a golden calf, because the Jews
have always wanted God to be a creature with four feet. What a shame,
even in the past you were always trying to turn things upside down.
Don't you get it? God gave his son Jesus Aryans fair skin, and not a
grease olive skin Jew; God gave Jesus blue eyes like the sky, not dark
eyes like a mucky Jew, God gave Jesus blond hair, not black hair like
a Jew. So Jesus was beautiful to behold, put all Jewish men to shame,
so jealously rear it ugly head against Jesus. Yes, we all know why you
hated Joshua (Messiah Ben Joseph), and Jesus (Messiah Ben David)
because we both looked Aryan.
Joshua Israel <挿}}><
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
wrote:
>>>You sick little liar!
>>>It was YOUR BUDDY, ART BULLA!
YES you are right, Art Bulla COULD of well been the original poster,
for only an evil person like ART could have been so inspired by Satan,
to make trouble for me and you. Yes, I will agreed that Art Bulla the
Devil right hand man, who have cause all of the contentions between me
and you, and cause me to want to respond hatefully. So you have won,
and I will not post anything hatefully anymore, for I don't want
Satan's right hand man to win and destroy the good feeling which were
my true nature and made me happy. Yes I love the Jews, but the devil
has his ways of destroying what is good. And I am learning, that even
the best of people can change, and nothing will happen......... I will
stop, because I am not called to preach to Jews, and it would be
foolish for me to think that I would be accepted by anyone would
thinks that Jesus Christ is only a Jewish prophet. For me he was God,
and that is the only thing that Jews offend me, but I can say with
Jesus, forgive our father in heaven for they know not what they do,
please dear God, draw near to the Jews as they draw near to you, yes,
my dear God of Glory, the great I AM That I AM, because the Jews now
do not reject Jesus, and some of them call him a prophet, give them
some of their lands back to them, but when they accept Jesus as the
Messiah then give them the temple mount. I say this in the name of the
Jesus Christ, Amen.
Love,
Joshua Israel Gemmell <'}}}><
Pat Harrington
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:54:57 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flav...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> >stop lying about Jews to cover it up.
> >
> >Susan
>
> Susan, Susanna, little Susie, listen well, How will the serpent ever
> lose it venom if you do not stop persecuting it?
>
Is this your admission that you really ARE the dragon of
Revelation?
> Can't you understand the evolutionary needs for survival? Are you so
> sickly ignorant?
>
> How do I know?
>
> Because the Jewish Conformists are not superior in the evolutionary
> chain, they are not fit to become the modern man.
>
Right, so what you're saying here is that Jesus was a lower form of
life that you still look up to. What's that say about you?
> Your Peter Pan advice is a standard that only conform to you're
> backwards ideology, because you have been swingled by an artistry of
> glittering fools to follow the orthodoxy.
>
> Wise up or get left behind, for you have been robbed of your honor.
>
As if anyone is listening to you. You choose to pick on a woman
and avoid me. Coward. Just stop trying to proselytise and you can be
free to be an idiot elsewhere.
> Joshua Israel <?}}}><
Art Bulla
by one who holds the Apostleship. The Holy Ghost testifies of the truth and
if the Jews willl not receive the truth, what else is new? They have been
in a state of denial for two thousand years. The Mormons are as bad as the
Jews in this regard. For their false prophets, moneychangers who have
hijacked the Mormons are like the Pharasees of old who deceived the Jews in
the mortal life of Jesus. I received revelation that the Jews would not be
converted until the return of Jesus to the Mt. of Olives anyway, so no one
holds their breath. And it is such a shame, for all they would have to do,
is kneel down and pray to God for the truth, let the God of heaven rule,
and that witness which is irrefutable would be given them, that I am he.
Otherwised, it is strait times for the Jews, even though they have been
gathered out of the nations by the hand of Jehovah, they will be scattered
again if they stick their necks out and their heads high as in days of old,
Israel's God will break them off again and scatter them once more. One ought
to be guided by the Holy Ghost, and not man-made traditions. There are more
tribes than Judah, saith the Lord, even Ephraim which has been gathered out
also. But Ephraim is proud and stiff-necked as well as the following
prophecy shows:
1 WOE to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious
beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them
that are overcome with wine!
2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, which as a tempest of hail
and a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing, shall cast
down to the earth with the hand.
3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:1 - 3)
--
Concerning quotes (out of context): these are distortions, taken out of the
context of
the blasphemies and insults placed upon me by the vilest of traitors and
foul wretches
imagineable. Jesus kicked their asses out of the Temple and I do the same to
all god damned liars and hypocrites. I make no apology. God is my judge. If
this fellow (Manning) were honest he would include these, and all would see
that I am
justified by the Lord in my responses. The word of the Lord is given on
the matter in the following:
Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice,
and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys
of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according
to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.
Let no one, therefore, set on my servant for I will justify him. saith the
Lord your God.
Manning is as mendacious about not being a queer as Ward Churchill is about
being an Indian. Typical of the delusional left. Not moored in truth or
reality.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition
of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand."
Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
<http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3>
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68
As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons
of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the
brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
indebted
to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God
has
spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the
one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge
and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over
preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of
righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the
creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229,
George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they
understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not
understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This
can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became
foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of
Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the
gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith
in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
35 And the rebellious shall be cut off out of the land of Zion, and shall
be sent away, and shall not inherit the land.
36 For, verily I say that the rebellious are not of the blood of Ephraim,
wherefore they shall be plucked out.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:35 - 36)
"Pat Harrington" <PatrickDH...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
> news:<e3ic31t0ru9io5us8...@4ax.com>...
>> On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:27:13 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
>> <n...@non.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:24:09 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
>> ><n...@non.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:20:25 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
>> >><n...@non.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:14:54 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
>> >>><n...@non.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> more corrections:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:09:47 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
>> >>>><n...@non.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>On 14 Mar 2005 16:02:02 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
>> >>>>>Harrington) wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Don't mess with Soc.Culture.Jewish, Mossad
>> >>>>>>will light you as a menorah candle. To be honest, your prophecies
>> >>>>>>are
>> >>>>>>some of the poorest fakes I've ever run across.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>If that were true, then the Nazis were right about the Jews being
>> >>>>>out
>> >>>>>to get the Aryans.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>[Are] you really so stupid as a swine?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> For I have been warned that you have dishonored your race,
>> >>>>>because you have done more to justify anti-Semitic feelings with
>> >>>>>your stupid posts than the Germans are said to have done unjustly.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Is that what you are saying, to the Latter-day Saints, that you want
>> >>>>>to justify German actions?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Are you saying that Hitler was on a mission to punish the Jews for
>> >>>>>Jesus Christ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>What a stupid person you are? If that is what you think. For Jesus
>> >>>>>is
>> >>>>>a man of love.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Hate has no justification, and you're a good example of one who
>> >>>>>breeds
>> >>>>>hate.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Don't you have any wise person to learn from? Do you not understand,
>> >>>>>that the serpent will never lose its demon-venom, if you continue to
>> >>>>>persecute it forever, for hatred brews hatred among the people.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Now the intelligent Jews are friends to Mormons, because they know
>> >>>>>who
>> >>>>>their friends are, and like Israeli Intelligence Agencies (Mossad)
>> >>>>>they would not be fooled by the like of you. For Mossad knows that
>> >>>>>Mormon Church paid for the first ships that brought the Jews back to
>> >>>>>their homeland after World War II.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Also if you had known anything about my English family, you would
>> >>>>>have
>> >>>>>known that it was my family that help win the war against the
>> >>>>>Germans.
>> >>>>>My family was shipbuilders and our ships were use too win the war,
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>help save your Jewish butt. Yes, we built more than thirteen hundred
>> >>>>>vessels. [Cook, Welton & GEMMELL Shipbuilders of Hull and Beverley
>> >>>>>1883-1963, Michael Thompson, Hutton Press 1999]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>And it if I were to search my family history, I would not be
>> >>>>>surprise
>> >>>>>if I found out that some of my family's ships brought the Israeli
>> >>>>>back
>> >>>>>to the land of Israel.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I don't think you are Jewish, because Jews are not dumb like you,
>> >>>>>and
>> >>>>>it is my Jewish blood that burns with righteous indignation, when I
>> >>>>>am
>> >>>>>confront by a self-hating Jew. Have you no pride?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>Also, I would not be surprise if you were one of the evil frogs now
>> >>>working with Gog. For like Hitler who had Jewish blood, but respected
>> >>>his mother's doctor who was a Jew, he was a self-hating Jew. And you
>> >>>do the same works. Yes, even like President Vladimir Putin who has
>> >>>Jewish ancestry, but hates the Jews. What a self-hating Jew Putin is,
>> >>>but are your out [to] follow his lead. [If] yes, [then] birds of a
>> >>>feather do flock together.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Now, if you are not a self-hating Jew, why all the contradictions
>> >>>>>coming from you?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Yes, is it because the most loving person whoever walked this earth
>> >>>>>was Jesus Christ, and this burns you up, for you are another
>> >>>>>self-hating Jew, like the ones who had the Jewish Jesus murdered.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Yes, royal Jewish bloodlines have always been cursed by self-hating
>> >>>>>Jews like you, for they hated Jesus who was of royal Jewish blood,
>> >>>>>for
>> >>>>>he was from the House of David. When the Jews killed their king
>> >>>>>Jesus,
>> >>>>>the temple veil was rent and torn in two, for the glory of God's
>> >>>>>Spirit was no longer found within the Jewish temple, and the Jew
>> >>>>>could
>> >>>>>no longer hold on to holy ground. And ever since that day, the
>> >>>>>Jewish
>> >>>>>dream of another temple, but God's Spirit was no longer found among
>> >>>>>the self-hating Jews.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Now, since God is no longer inside the Jewish temple, why should
>> >>>>>anyone be alarm to know that God doesn't work with the Jewish
>> >>>>>leadership either; because they need a holy temple to have guidance
>> >>>>>from God, to bring them out of danger.
>> >>>>>
>> >>By your fruit you are known today, [but your] past [works] will [NOT]
>> >>save you, and you do not the works of an intelligent person, but the
>> >>works of a self-hating Jew, and the Prophet Isaiah warned the Jews
>> >>that those seeking their destruction would emerge out of their own
>> >>midst.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Self-hating Jews support the enemies of the Jewish People because
>> >>>>>THEY
>> >>>>>TOO are enemies of the Jewish People!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>And if you are not a self-hating Jew, then you are worse than an
>> >>>>>enemy
>> >>>>>to the Jews because you are stupid, and a stupid friend is worst
>> >>>>>than
>> >>>>>an enemy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Don't you know who your friends are?
>> >>>>>
>> >Why does [your] utter madness spring forth [like] a "progressive Jew?"
>> >>>>>
>> >Are you in the habit of kicking your friends, and [kissing your
>> >enemies [butt]?
>> >>>>>
>> If you were intelligent, you would want a king to rule Israel, and
>> build [your] temple.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Also, it is another historical fact that it was the LDS CHURCH that
>> >>>>>sent one of their Apostles to bless and dedicate the land of Israel
>> >>>>>for the return of the Jews; ten years before the Jews return to
>> >>>>>Israel. Yes, after this Latter-day Saint Apostle blessed the land of
>> >>>>>Israel for the return of the Jews, ten years later, they returned.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Therefore you are stupid about historical facts, but then there has
>> >>>>>always been, self-hating fools like you.
>> >>>>>
>> Joshua Israel Gemmell [Zech. 3 speaks of ME, go learn who I am, I am
>> renewed hope for Israel, and the Great Art Bulla is your future king.]
>> >>>>>
>
>
> It's nice of you to rate yourself so highly. What was it that
> Jesus said, "He who would be first will be last and the last first."
> You place yourself in the role of the Dragon who gives power to the
> Beast. Art's prophecies have led you astray and you now serve that
> which you would be horrified by. Art Bulla would NEVER be made King
> of Israel. He would have to be able to prove himself a natural born
> Jew, which he is not, and he would have to be annointed by a prophet
> that all Israel recognises. Airy-fairy pipe-dreams. Wake up and
> smell the stench of putrid lies that fall like so much rot from the
> Beast Bulla.
>
>
>> >>>>>PS: We Mormons can build many temples unto God, for are sanctified
>> >>>>>by
>> >>>>>the blood of Jesus.
>> >>>>>
Art Bulla
apostate and a false prophet. Joshua is a worm, a squirming unstable soul.
A little thief and liar and my voice will be against all day long. He has
nothing, just vanity and foolishness. Has not entered in the gate himself,
has not obeyed the truth which he once proclaimed himself, but sets himself
up for a light with no authority. He is no priest after the Order of
Melchizedek as he has said in numerous posts. He does not receive
revelation. He is no oracle except for the devil, saith the Lord.
29 He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold,
priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the
world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the
welfare of Zion.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 26:29)
That is Joshua to a tee, a corrupt branch which is hewn off and cast into
the fire, saith the Lord.
"Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
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> On 15 Mar 2005 03:05:13 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
> Harrington) wrote:
>
>> It's nice of you to rate yourself so highly. What was it that
>>Jesus said, "He who would be first will be last and the last first."
>>You place yourself in the role of the Dragon who gives power to the
>>Beast. Art's prophecies have led you astray and you now serve that
>>which you would be horrified by. Art Bulla would NEVER be made King
>>of Israel. He would have to be able to prove himself a natural born
>>Jew, which he is not, and he would have to be annointed by a prophet
>>that all Israel recognises. Airy-fairy pipe-dreams. Wake up and
>>smell the stench of putrid lies that fall like so much rot from the
>>Beast Bulla.
>
> Okay, Mr. Harrington, I missed judge you, you are not a self-hating
> Jew.
>
> But you are being a "johnny-come-lately."
>
> The simple fact remains, that I, Joshua Israel am the "least" within
> the Kingdom of Heaven (Government of God). And am the "last" in the
> Kingdom of God (Church of God).
>
> For you do bring up real issues and concerns, but you are yet to bring
> up an unsurmountable obstacle. For if God is with Israel, which is me,
> Joshua Israel, then who can be against me?
>
> For I, Joshua Israel can see that you are not a self-hating Jew, but
> you have real concerns about being fooled by a false prophet and given
> false hopes. Which is all fairness is justifiable.
>
> Let me you put at ease, there are things in place which the God of
> Glory has hid from the world, to show forth his wisdom and majesty in
> delivering the House of Israel from the powers of evil.
>
> As you already know, Moses was confronted by the powers of evil, but
> God was always one step ahead of evil, am I correct?
>
> (2 Tim. 3:8) "Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these
> also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the
> faith."
>
> Yes, sorcerers Jannes and Jambres were able to inmate all the plages
> that Moses did, even turn their wizard's rods into serpents, but Moses
> with God's wisdom and majesty was always able to be one step ahead of
> Jannes and Jambres, who were real sorcerers and false prophets of the
> devil.
>
> Now, there are sissy prophets, that are false, and have not any
> supernormal powers, and cannot use the power of ether to recreate
> miracles, but then there are also the real thing too.
>
> I, Joshua Israel, never wanted you persuade you that you are a fool,
> buy only present to you the evidence that things are not has you have
> been lead to picture in your mind.
>
> You see a limited view of things as they now stand, and are easily
> offended by anyone who claims there is hope for Israel among the last
> of the people, like Art and Joshua, for Art and Joshua never grew up
> high places, in palaces, where you find those that are first in all
> things.
>
> Therefore you do put your foot in your mouth, if you quote scripture
> to me, for that is a gift of a real prophet, to know scriptures better
> than you.
>
> Now, it is not my intentions to offend a believer in God, but only to
> show forth God's wisdom in providing for his holy people of Israel.
>
> Now, when did God say that in the last days, there would be a "State
> of Israel" that would build his holy temple in Jerusalem?
>
> Never did he say such thing, for God speaks of the "Kingdom of Israel"
> and the man called the "The Branch" who should come to sit upon the
> throne of David, and be a priest and a king upon the throne, and that
> this is the man who shall built the third temple.
>
> Think Not, then read and learn:
>
> (Zech. 6:12-13) "And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of
> hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall
> grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
> Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the
> glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a
> priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them
> both."
>
> Now it is said by the scholars, that this refers to the Prophet
> Zechariah crowning Joshua, the high priest, in similitude of Christ,
> the Branch, who shall come and sit upon the throne of David.
>
> However, as you have said, this is only false teachings, because the
> bible has this to say about giving private interpretations of
> prophecy:
>
> (2 Pet. 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is
> of any private interpretation.
>
> However, you are in luck, for I am no sissy prophet, but the real
> thing.
>
> I have and I will always be lead of God, and his Spirit of Wisdom is
> upon me, and I can interpret the scriptures for you.
>
> Know that scholars are not right about "Joshua" being the "The
> Branch".
>
> For if we read, Zech. 6:12-13, we see that it says:
>
> "and the counsel of peace shall be between them both."
>
> Both?
>
> You see, what the scholars could not learn, I, Joshua by the power of
> God's Spirit do make things known, right?
>
> Think not, then consider your own concerns about Art not having a
> prophet:
>
> PATRICK: Art Bulla would NEVER be made King of Israel. He would have
> to be able to prove himself a natural born Jew, which he is not, and
> he would have to be anointed by a prophet
> that all Israel recognize.
>
> JOSHUA: The Lost Tribes of Israel are thirty-one mile outside of
> Juneau Alaska, where God in his great wisdom hid them, to show the
> world his majesty in delivering the State of Israel, and the State of
> Israel shall become the Kingdom of Israel, when the Lost Tribes come
> forth by the power of God, and they will come in search of their
> anointed king and priest, and will want to march towards Israel to
> reclaim all the ancient lands given by God to the Royal House of
> Israel.
>
> PATRICK: I need more proof, than just the words of one man, called
> Joshua, who is bring up foolishness.
>
> GOD: "AND he shewed me Joshua [Israel] the high priest standing before
> the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist
> him."
>
> 2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even
> the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand
> plucked out of the [atomic] fire?
>
> 3 Now Joshua [Israel] was clothed with filthy garments [for having
> revealed the wisdom of our God unto the unworthy], [but Joshua] stood
> before the angel, [the messenger of the Man of Holiness, the Great
> Jehovah].
>
> 4 And [the divine messenger] answered and spake unto those that stood
> before [Joshua Israel], saying, Take away the filthy garments from
> [Joshua, God's adopted son]. And unto [Joshua] he said, Behold, I have
> caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with
> change of raiment. [For thou hast pleased God, and prevail against the
> forces of evil, and brought forth my will, for my power was manifested
> in thy works.] (Zech. 3:1-4)
>
> JOSHUA: Yes, I know better than you, and yes, I am that prophet that
> was foretold to come, to anoint the future king of the Kingdom of
> Israel. Called the Branch, for he is the center branch of the menorah.
>
> PATRICK: That waits to be seen.
>
> JOSHUA: You don't have long to wait, 2012.
>
> PATRICK: That is unlikely, since you are not a prophet, but you are
> being fooled by Art Bulla, and the devil now works to convince you
> such things; for God will appoint another in the end, who can deliver
> his people, instead of fighting with them all the time.
>
> JOSHUA: Well, Patrick, now you know why, I am the last, for I did not
> grow up in a palace, upon the land of ancient Israel, but just like
> the Branch, who grow up out of his place, "Behold the man whose name
> is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place," (Zech. 6:12). I
> too, grew up out of my place, but it is said that there will be two
> world capitals, one called the City of Zion, the New Jerusalem, and
> the other Old Jerusalem, City of the Great Kings. And this will be how
> "and the counsel of peace shall be between them both." [Between Art
> and Joshua, for I shall sit and rule one capital, and Art Bulla the
> other world capital. And it will be Art Bulla great pleasure to greet
> Jesus Christ whenever he visits this earth, for Jesus will come to
> stay at his palace, next to the third temple of Jerusalem].
>
> "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us ago up to the
> mountain of the LORD, [JUST HILL] to the House of the God of Jacob [in
> Independence, Missouri]; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will
> walk in his paths: for out of [the City of Zion] shall go forth the
> Law, and the Word of the LORD from Jerusalem." ~ The prophet Isaiah
> 2:3
>
> JOSHUA: You are the fool Patrick, because I, Joshua was once like you,
> for I once asked God to send to my sister Dafne the future king of
> Israel, and the devil work to deceive me, for when the child was born
> with the star of David on both hands, and his father without knowing
> what I asked God to do, name him according to prophecy, 'David
> Joseph', for it is said by the ancient prophet that the coming new
> king with be both from the Royal House of Judah as well as the Royal
> House of Joseph. And he carries both names. And my family's crest is
> the arms of the Lion of Judah, and my family motto is "Crux -
> Hereditas Mea", and when the child was born, the Jews wanted him raise
> Jewish. And the devil did many mighty wonders to fool me, and even
> when the child was present to the LDS Church, the LDS CHURCH sent a
> group of men to bless him with a special mission to the world, for God
> said, he is special unto me, in him will I make a name for myself, and
> the world shall see the power of my glory in his right hand, and he
> can obtain any thing from by prayer alone. Yes, the devil did work
> lying wonders to fool Joshua. Yes, I could tell you more,
> "johnny-come-lately" but know that I had to overcome the devil, who
> knew that I was one day going to come across the real king of Israel,
> Art Bulla, and the devil does stands at my right hand, as told by the
> prophet Zechariah 3:1, to make me a fool. But I thank God daily, that
> I have seen pass the blinding light of Lucifer, and now know it was
> Satan the devil trying make me a fool and reject Art Bulla, so he lead
> me to think it was my nephew, but the glory goes to Art Bulla, and not
> the one that the LDS Church managers appoint.
>
> Think not, then read this:
>
> (D&C 85:7) "And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send
> One Mighty and Strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand,
> clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words,
> eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set
> in order the House of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of
> the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and
> of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God;"
>
> YES, the above scripture speaks of Art Bulla, and not my nephew, who
> the Lord had this to say:
>
> (D&C 85:9) "While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that
> putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the
> shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of
> lightning."
>
> Yes, this was the warning which God gave anyone who sought to take Art
> Bulla place among the great seers of the menorah, which represents the
> Kingdom of Heaven on earth.
>
> JOSHUA [Zech. 3] <'}}}><
>
>
>
Art Bulla
except his vanity. There are many false prophets gone out into the world.
This worm once said he was a Catholic, and a devotee of Nostradamus, then a
follower of Art, then Spencer Kimbal. Off and on, off and on. He is lke a
flag flipping on a pole. He is unstable as hell and deserves the reward
thereof, saith the Lord, causing evil to be spoken of the way. He would not
repent himself, but seeks to climb up some other way than the gate and is a
theif and a robber. Joshua, only desires to exalt and aggnrandize himself.
He does not care for anything else, and is a chameleon who will put on any
suit of clothes to masquerade whatever part he thinks will advance the cause
of Joshua the fool. The Apostleship has been taken from the Mormons and
Joshua was not even ordained to the Melchizedek Priesthood, but is a Priest
after the order of Aaron, (though he will undoubtedly lie about that, but I
can produce posts he made admitting this fact). And all men are liars who
say they have the Kingdom of God without the Priesthood of Melchizedek, much
less the Apostleship, the highest office on the earth or in the Church and
which contains all the keys. God will not go around this order. Thus the
devil may be detected by his contradicting former revelation. Just ask him
what authority he has from the Mormons, who now no longer have authority to
raise Temples, saith the Lord.
"All men are liars who say they are of the true Church without the
revelations of Jesus Christ and the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which is
after the order of the Son of God." Joseph Smith; TPJS p. 376
Joshua has neither and is an imposter.
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> On 15 Mar 2005 17:24:45 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
> Harrington) wrote:
>
>> So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the fray. I
>>see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse be? Art
>>wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't erady for it?
>
> PATRICK: So now you've decided to bring the Mayan calendar into the
> fray. I see. And if 2012 passes with no event, what will your excuse
> be? Art wasn't ready for it or the world wasn't ready for it?
>
> JOSHUA: Not so fast, your rushing into things you know little about.
> First of all, my family owns the planes to Tikal, and my grandfather
> even own one few remaining Mayan scrolls. So, I am more knowledgeable
> about the Mayans than you are. Having traveled often to Guatemala many
> times, and seen first hand. Yes, even my father's brother Alfred owned
> the first Airline of Guatemala. Yes, you know little about the Mayans,
> only what you have seen in books, right?
>
> PATRICK: Rubbish, I know Hebrew and Greek, so that makes me more
> knowledgeable about Mayans too.
>
> JOSHUA: Okay Patrick so you know Hebrew and Greek, but the Jesus spoke
> Aramaic not Greek, and Moses knew the language of Egyptians and
> provable wrote the Torah in Egyptian not Hebrew. But does it matter?
> For it is not a perfect transfer of context, for there are no perfect
> languages on earth like the one Noah spoke, that have remained until
> now after the tower of Babel. Therefore, even with a better
> translation, you are still unable to obtain a proper context in which
> many of the words are authored in the holy texts.
>
> PATRICK: Humbug, Joshua, your playing silly games of semantic, show me
> the proof instead.
>
> JOSHUA: Now, everyone knows that the Egyptians were record keepers,
> yet, there is no proof that Moses ever lived in Egypt. How strange, if
> only the Jews have a record of Moses, then perhaps it was all made up,
> right? The Jews needed a hero, and they made it up like the Greek were
> known to do, right?
>
> PATRICK: Rubbish, Moses existed, because it is the foundation of our
> faith that he did.
>
> JOSHUA: Okay, Patrick, you in luck, for I also am angry with the
> Egyptians for having the habit of erasing all record of the Israelites
> in Egypt, because they thought that by erasing the evidence, hen it
> would keep Israel greatness from become immortalized forever.
>
> PATRICK: Well, mm, that make sense. They were in the habit of erasing
> records of the people they didn't like, and after the Egyptian
> firstborns all died in Egypt, they hated Israel so much they had the
> names of all Israelites removed from their records.
>
> JOSHUA: Thanks for giving me this much praise, but now I will give you
> more proof. The simple fact remains that because there are no records
> in Egypt about Moses great works, it doesn't mean that the Egyptians
> don't believe there was a real Moses, right? However, you have to
> admit there is a lack of proof, and it must all be swallowed by us
> Latter-day Saint by faith, right? That there was a prophet called
> Moses, and that the Jews are not just making up a Moses and causing
> all Latter-day Saint to believe in the false prophet who never existed
> according to Egyptian records.
>
> PATRICK: Well, mm, mm, I really have no right asking for you proof
> about Joseph Smith being a prophet when I can't even prove that Moses
> lived in Egypt.
>
> JOSHUA: Yes, that is the weakness of proof. But the wise have faith,
> right? And by faith we all, believe there was a prophet called Moses.
>
> NOW, for word about the year 2012, it is not my concern that the Mayan
> choose to back me up.
>
> Know that I use the Mayan year of 2012, because on June 12, 2012, my
> nephew will be thirty-three years old, the same age that Jesus was
> when he finished his mission as Messiah Ben David, to be a spiritual
> Deliverer. Now, my nephew would be what the Jewish call, Messiah Ben
> Joseph, the physical Deliverer. So you see, how wrong you are, it is
> not base upon Mayan calendar, but my nephew's birthday, when he is 33
> years old he will land upon Israel with a 144 thousand newly appointed
> gods upon white flying horses to fight the battle of Armageddon.
>
> Now it is said that the Battle of Armageddon is three and half years
> long, and will be mostly a mental war, but in the end it will have
> become a physical conflict in the valley of Megiddo.
>
> There will be 200 million men army array against the tiny State of
> Israel, mostly Chinese peacekeeper. Then will Messiah Ben Joseph
> appear and save the Jewish butt from destruction, and then you see
> that the State of Israel will not receive their new king!
>
> Are you getting a better picture now, you see Patrick my works and
> words will come back to haunt you, remember I told you that you had
> the wrong picture in your mind! Yes, you even thought I was using the
> Mayan calendar, but I was not, it was the Mayan prophets confirm and
> backing me up.
>
> Now, it is not my fault the Jewish scholars of the Bible code say that
> the anti-Christ is Camel.
>
> Did you know that Gemmell has it origins for the third letter of the
> Hebrew alphabet?
>
> If you know Hebrew, then you understand that third letter Gimel, means
> Camel.
>
> Now, I am not the anti-Christ, but I do come to destroy the works of
> the anti-Christ.
>
> Yes, I could tell you more, but I think you need milk (basic
> principles of faith) before I give you meat (mysteries of the kingdom
> of God).
>
> Joshua Israel <'}}}><
>
> PS: Moses wrote the Old Testament in Egyptian, and what you have is a
> Hebrew translation, and Jesus spoke Aramaic, the language of the
> Hebrew patriarchs, and the New Testament is a Greek translation of
> what Jesus said, so you have not the original tongues to brag about,
> but just corrupt translations. But we Latter-day Saints have a good
> translation of the Book of Mormon, thank God it was translated by the
> power of God.
>
Art Bulla
It is a virtue, not a vice, to proselytize. Rain tried it here, but failed.
I make no apology. Joshua is a sick little liar, but you are one as well.
Your fathers tried to stop Peter, James and John from preaching on Solomon's
porch.
18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in
the name of Jesus.
19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in
the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye.
20 For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.
21 So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding
nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for all men
glorified God for that which was done.
(New Testament | Acts 4:18 - 21)
I obey God and if he tells me to preach, I also preach. It seems this
fascism has not lessened with time, this desire to stop the truth from being
told has, if anything magnified itself. Now it has been reported to me that
I have been accused by this worm, Joshua, of preaching false doctrine on the
Jews. They are corrupt as hell, their doctrine contradicts the Law and the
Tesitmony. the only thing they tout is the ability to speak Hebrew. But they
are Judah, and not as Nazis say, "seed of Satan". I have fought the Nazis
for years on these points, defending the Jews on their newsgroups. Joseph
Smith recognized the Ashkenazi Jew as Judah, heir to the promises. What the
Jews don't realize is that they are three tribes, Judah, Levi and Benjamin.
There were lost tribes led away in 800 BC which were scattered into Europe,
and the blood of Ephraim has sprinkeled these nations, and they have the
birthright and the heir to the blessing of Jacob which has made the US the
greatest nation in the history of the world, this genius of the blood of
Ephraim, not Judah. There are "pure Ephraimites" and God has given these
the right of Priesthood as Samuel who was an Ephraimite, not a Jew. (The
term Jew only came into use after the Babylonian captivity, after the 10
lost tribes were scattered in 800 BC. Samuel was before this scattering).
So the Jews need to cease from their arrogancy, for it is a delusion, since
the birthright belongs to Ephraim, and Ephraim has a messiah as well.
Susan will dismiss this with a "Yep" or a "Nope", which demonstrates a lack
of facility with the language. And yes, is a pure language, not confounded
at the Tower, which was spoken by Noah and Melchizedek and others. There
was one group whose language was not confounded and they were planted in
"the nethermost par of the vineyard" by the Lord.
"Susan Cohen" <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
Art Bulla
not present, when he is?
"Joshua Israel <'}}}><" <n...@non.net> wrote in message
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Joshua Israel <'}}}><
Harrington) wrote:
>Is this your admission that you really ARE the dragon of
>Revelation?
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he is wise in his own
conceit. (Prov. 26:5)
This old saying, is true day as it in the past, so I will answer less
you think yourself wise in your own mind. Yes, with this thought in
mind, I respond to you less you think yourself something you not, and
that is wise.
Know that everyone knows it not an honest question you ask, but one
done to prove you are some sort brain, but you're not a genius, but a
fool.
My last is Scottish, my family comes from Wanlockhead, not the
lowlands where one finds the lower classes, but Wanlockhead is called
God's treasure house, and it is the highest village in Scotland, in
fact the whole town Wanlockhead is not a place where you find the
forsaken and scattered people of Israel, but it has stood the time,
and now the whole town has been turned into a Museum. Yes, I have
nothing but honor, for my family has not been scattered to the four
winds upon this earth, yes, we are a truly a blessed family among
God's people.
My great-great-grandfather Andrew Gemmell who married Margaret
Laidlaw, both of honorable and just parentage from one of the chosen
lineages upon the earth down through the ages. I am a natural heir to
the blessings of chosen Israel through Judah and Ephraim. Therefore, I
have no apologized to make, for I am of royal birth. Yes, I can trace
my Gemmell clan back to Jesse the father of David, and I can trace
Laidlaw back to
It is easy for one having wisdom and knowledge about my family
background and roots to understand why I am a man of courage for I
inherited it from my bloodlines, the tribe of Judah, and why I am a
man of honor for inherited it from the tribe of Ephraim.
My great-great-grandfather Andrew Gemmell, was lead of God to find
the largest gold nugget in the world, yes, this is just one example of
how God took care of my family throughout history. Yes, he found it in
Wanlockhead, a place not known for gold. However, God can do with
mother earth whatsoever pleases God, and the earth does open up
treasures unto the Gemmell all the time.
However, I know that your question is not about the wealth which has
come to my clan, or the intellectuals and public leaders in
government, which were sent by God to my family tree. What you ask is
about me being the dragon of Revelation.
The answer is an ancient one, it comes from Scotland, and here is your
answer:
Gemmell is an old name, it meaning in Scotland is "Ancient One" or
"Old One," and was a title given to gods of the Druids, if that is any
help to you. Some say that the Druids taught the Romans Christianity,
and were the scholars in the old world. Yes, there have been many of
my family's clans among the Druids, and if you ever watch Roman
legions in the movies, the man dress with a black hood and robe very
dignified next to the leader of the Roman legions is always the Druid,
which were the Roman advisors in war. Therefore, it is easy to see the
leadership and greatness of Romans in conquering the world by the aid
of Druids.
The ancient people of Scotland called "serpent" Orm. Orm means
serpent, and the oldest Gemmell in Scotland was called Orm. He had two
sons that they fought with kings, and Orm named both his sons John,
because he truly was a "serpent" for he knew that one would die in
battle with the king's brother. So you answer is yes, for in ancient
times the 壮erpent' was a symbol given to 層ise ones', and it is now
found in all Jewish hospitals, and use as an emblem of wisdom in the
medical profession. Haven't you seen the serpent used this way? Well
it is called . Also the name Gemmell, meaning 前ld One" or "Ancient
One" denotes having wisdom and knowledge among the scholars of the
ancient world, the Druids. So in answer to your question, yes, you
could say I carry the bloodlines of the serpent. But so do all the
leaders of Europe, and so did Solomon, for the symbol of the serpent
is an old one and known throughout history, so where have you been?
Certainly you would of had such knowledge, if you had Gemmell blood,
but since you do not know about my family history, you must have known
about God Quatzequatl the "feathered serpent" which came from the
heavens to teach the Mayans wisdom and knowledge and promise to return
after they built a perfect temple? Well, a close book only reads
Jewish history, and a open book who have known this.
Well, enough, I will not explain the meaning of "serpent" to the
unstudied, for he has never made himself worthy of knowledge.
However, the serpent is not a bad thing, but a good thing, for its
origins came from the Tree of Knowledge, where the first serpent comes
into play in Jewish history, certainly you of all persons should have
known your proud Jewish history. However, fools speak with knowledge.
Yes, this is what you Jewish's Bible says about serpents:
A brass serpent made by Moses at God's command to heal the Israelites
who had been bitten by fiery serpents (poisonous snakes) in the
wilderness (Num. 21: 8-9). This brass serpent was attached to a pole
and "raised up that whosoever would look upon it might live" (Alma 33:
19-22). The Lord referred to the lifting up of the serpent in the
wilderness as a symbol of himself being lifted up on the cross (John
3: 14-15). Latter-day revelation confirms the account of the fiery
serpents and how the people were healed (1 Ne. 17: 41; 2 Ne. 25: 20;
Hel. 8: 14-15).
Certainly it explains why the Jewish people adopted the use of a
serpent in the medical profession which has been adopted all over the
world. Yes, that is honor of Jewish history, and its leadership, so
why do you dishonor my Jewish ancestry?
Is it because of hate breeds hate?
IF that is the reason you asked the question about my being the
"serpent of Revelation" it not for me to say, but by looking at Jewish
history, the serpent has always be the emblem of wisdom because of the
great Moses, and it can be trace even back to the Tree of Knowledge.
"NOW the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the
LORD God had made." (Gen. 3:1, written by Moses)
YES, it is easily seen in Jewish history why Moses would have picked
the 壮erpent' to mean someone with wisdom. That is why Moses in
retelling the story of man's origin, used the word "subtle" to
describe the serpent of the Tree of Knowledge. You must not fear the
serpent if you want knowledge, and if you want to be a medical doctor
but fear operations and the sight of blood, how are you ever going to
learn the knowledge of doctors? Wisdom is not for the weak minded, or
those who fear the unknown, for they never past the gates to wisdom.
subtle >adjective (subtler, subtlest) making use of clever and
indirect methods to achieve something.
So yes, my family is among the serpent in history, but not the "clever
and indirect methods to achieve something EVIL, which you have
referred to by saying "serpent of the visions of Saint John," who was
not even Jewish, for only Judas the betrayer was a Jew among the
apostles.
An Owl you are not! For wisdom is known of her children, and
leadership always falls into their hands.
Oh, I should not have said Owl, for it also is known for wisdom. But
that another problem for you, that I care not to explain.
Therefore, "answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also
be like unto him." (Prov. 26:4)
So to reenforce what I have said, to the wise reading my post, I say
the following, for I do not expect an olive branch being offered by
one who only has hate to offer, a real sign of the lower classes among
the Jews, who can't forgive, because the are always on a war path of
their own making.
THIS IS MY FULL NAME:
JOSHUA ISRAEL GEMMELL
Does your intellect now tell you what "Gemmell" stands for?
It is a name found throughout the Jewish bible. It has many spelling,
the oldests being Gimel.
There was a Gemmell who defended Jesus.
There was a Gemmell who was leader one of the tribes of Israel, the
tribe of
THEREFORE, it is not the serpent of Revelations, but the serpent of
Revelations is the Devil.
Joshua Gemmell, I could explain this, but you since you think all
serpents are devils, I will let your Jewish doctors in the medical
profession explain it to you, for these doctors would disagree with
you, and advise you to see a psychiatrist, who is another one you
would be offending.
JESUS: "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of [Jewish's]
wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."
JESUS: Therefore, be ye as wise as serpents and yet without sin; and I
will order all things for your good, as fast as ye are able to receive
them. Amen.
JOSHUA ISRAEL <挿}}><
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
>On 18 Mar 2005 01:30:50 -0800, PatrickDH...@hotmail.com (Pat
>Harrington) wrote:
>
>>Is this your admission that you really ARE the dragon of
>>Revelation?
>
> Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he is wise in his own
>conceit. (Prov. 26:5)
>
>This old saying, is true day as it in the past, so I will answer less
>you think yourself wise in your own mind. Yes, with this thought in
>mind, I respond to you less you think yourself something you not, and
>that is wise.
>
>Know that everyone knows it not an honest question you ask, but one
>done to prove you are some sort brain, but you're not a genius, but a
>fool.
>
My [surname] is Scottish, my family comes from Wanlockhead, not the
lowlands where one finds the lower classes, but Wanlockhead is called
God's treasure house, and it is the highest village in Scotland, in
fact the whole town Wanlockhead is not a place where you find the
forsaken and scattered people of Israel, but it has stood the time,
and now the whole town has been turned into a Museum. Yes, I have
nothing but honor, for my family has not been scattered to the four
winds upon this earth, yes, we are a truly a blessed family among
God's people.
>
My great-great-grandfather Andrew Gemmell who married Margaret
Laidlaw, both of honorable and just parentage from one of the chosen
lineages upon the earth down through the ages. I am a natural heir to
the blessings of chosen Israel through Judah and Ephraim. Therefore, I
have no apologized to make, for I am of royal birth. Yes, I can trace
my Gemmell clan back to Jesse the father of David, and I can trace
Laidlaw back to [the Christian Emperor Charlemagne who came from the
Royal House of Ephraim, who was blessed with the blessings of Joseph
his father, who was sold by his brother Judah out of jealousy, for his
father Abraham gave Joseph his son the scepter of the universe, and to
Judah the scepter of this earth. AND no truer words have been spoken
by man, than true words from the eternal history of my proud
heritage.]
>
It is easy for one having wisdom and knowledge about my family
background and roots to understand why I am a man of courage, for I
inherited it from my bloodlines, the tribe of Judah, and why I am a
man of honor for [I} inherited it from the [blood] of the tribe of
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
last correction:
it is called [the staff of Aesculapius.] Also the name Gemmell,
Joshua Israel <'}}}><
<n...@non.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:33:15 -0600, "Joshua Israel <'}}}><"
><n...@non.net> wrote:
>
[THIS IS THE]>last correction:
There was a Gemmell, a Pharisee Gamliel, a doctor of the law, held in
honor with all the people (Acts 5: 34). He was a celebrated Jewish
teacher who belonged to the more liberal school. His influence carried
great weight in the Sanhedrin (Acts 5: 35-40). Paul had been one of
his pupils (Acts 22: 3). Who it is written defended Jesus, so the evil
hypocrites made sure that Gamliel was not there to defend Jesus when
they laid their murderous plans in the Sanhedrin to have Jesus blood
shed.
And there was a Gemmell who was leader one of the tribes of Israel,
the leader of the tribe of Menashe, called Gamliel.
Andrew R
"Art Bulla" <a...@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:3a0869F...@individual.net...
: Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine vain things?
:
: It is a virtue, not a vice, to proselytize. Rain tried it here, but
failed.
: I make no apology. Joshua is a sick little liar, but you are one as well.
: Your fathers tried to stop Peter, James and John from preaching on
Solomon's
: porch.
Sick little liar he may be. However, it is rather odd that One so Mighty as
you, a Seer no less, could not tell that he was being so very false with
you.
You were ready to being him back into the fold - and he was playing you the
whole time.
Andrew R.
: 19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in
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