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tdny

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:31:05 PM11/23/09
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coaste...@yahoo.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:42:38 AM11/24/09
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On Nov 23, 10:31 pm, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkOrc1zySmQ&feature=related

Excellent, thank you.

Honest truth

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:59:24 AM11/24/09
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I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.


--
嚙踝蕭Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man嚙踝蕭s nature, there is
not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. 嚙皺 If the Jews are rich [these
fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
his own land, he is prevented from doing so.嚙踝蕭

Lloyd George

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:17:27 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 2:59 am, Honest truth <Honest_tr...@Wisdom.net> wrote:
> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.

Who are you responding to?

> --
> “Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there is
> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these


> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to

> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.”
>
> Lloyd George

tdny

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:39:05 PM11/24/09
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"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
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> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews
> died.


Only a fool or an evil person, would deny that the Nazi Holocaust took
place.
The Nazi Holocaust took place, unfortunately.
Nazi Holocaust is a terrible stain on humanity, because those that were in a
position
to stop it, allowed that horror to continue, looked the other way.
And even now in Israel, Nazi Holocaust survivors are given short shrift,
down to where some of them cannot afford basic items, such as dentures and
eyeglasses,
while living in Israel.
Also, Nazi Holocaust survivors are being charged outrageous fees, by those
that
represent them, in Israel.
The Israeli government says, it is helpless to do anything about that.
They are being charged these fees, when they go to initiate the legal
process
to get some of what is due them back from the countries that robbed them.

coaste...@yahoo.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:02:08 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 24, 2:59 am, Honest truth <Honest_tr...@Wisdom.net> wrote:
> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.

No reasonable person doubts that the Holocaust happened and that five
or six million Jews died. The question in the present context is what
conclusion do you wish to draw from that in regard to the perpetual
crisis in Palestine? After all it's on a different continent, the
behavior of the Israelis has been abominable and the Palestinians are
not Germans.

>
> --
> “Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there is


> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism.

Sure there is. It's called Zionist racism.

… If the Jews are rich [these


> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood.

It's true that opposite Jewish racists such as Deborah, the
Palestinians simply can't win. It's precisely the pattern described by
Lloyd George. As to the benefit to be gained by the spilling of non-
Jewish blood, no one can doubt that there has been a good deal of
spilling of American and British blood and that Israel has not only
been a part of engineering it but has seen herself as benefiting from
it. Her arch enemy, Iraq, has been destroyed. Her arch enemy, Iran is
sanctioned and surrounded. Her arch enemy Syria has been debilitated
and pillaged. Her enemy, the Lebanese, whose land the Israelis still
covet, caught in the middle, have been devastated over and over again,
their fragile democracy pummeled over and over. The Hashemite enemy,
Jordan is destabilized by the presence of hundreds of thousands of
Palestinian Refugees as a direct result of Israeli aggression. Look at
the history. Who can doubt that the Zionist experiment has been the
worst thing to happen to the Middle East in the entire 20th Century.
But then you can't blame poor old Lloyd George. He couldn't look into
the future.


If they espouse peace, it
> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors.

But this is the claim of the right-wing Zionists against fellow-Jews
who don't toe the line, those who aren't the obscenely wealthy
"conservatives."


If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to

> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.”

His own land? It's not enough to be highly prosperous citizens of
Britain and the United States? Surely you wouldn't deny that the US is
"your own land"? Yet it's still required to take another land, the
land of Palestinian peasant farmers by brute force? And to corrupt the
American Congress and to intimidate the politically correct American
people in order to accomplish it?

>
> Lloyd George

tdny

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:28:04 PM11/24/09
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"Honest truth" <Honest...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589#

Honest truth

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:45:56 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:39:05 -0500, tdny wrote:

> Only a fool or an evil person, would deny that the Nazi Holocaust took
> place.

Unfortunately many such fools kink tdny exist.

Honest truth

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:46:10 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:17:27 -0800 (PST), icono...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Nov 24, 2:59 am, Honest truth <Honest_tr...@Wisdom.net> wrote:
>> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
>> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.
>
> Who are you responding to?

YOU

Honest truth

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:46:51 AM11/25/09
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On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:02:08 -0800 (PST), icono...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
>> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.
>
> No reasonable person doubts that the Holocaust happened and that five
> or six million Jews died.


Remember we are talking here of the forum idiot tdny not a reasonable
person.

--
嚙踝蕭Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man嚙踝蕭s nature, there is
not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. 嚙皺 If the Jews are rich [these


fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take

advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells


in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to

his own land, he is prevented from doing so.嚙踝蕭

Lloyd George

docremington

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Nov 27, 2009, 1:29:17 AM11/27/09
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tdny wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkOrc1zySmQ&feature=related
>

Q. Is Finkel a schmucky dumbarse individual?
A. Yes.

peace.seeker.27

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Nov 27, 2009, 11:09:38 PM11/27/09
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On Nov 25, Honest? truth? <Honest?_tr...@Wisdom?.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 iconocl...@yahoo.com wrote:

>>On Nov 24, Honest? truth? <Honest?_tr...@Wisdom?.net> wrote:
>>> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
>>> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.

Finkelstein is the child of two Holocaust
survivors. It is an obscenity to suggest
that Finkelstein denies that the Holocaust
happened.

>> No reasonable person doubts that the Holocaust happened and that five
>> or six million Jews died.

> Remember we are talking here of the forum idiot tdny not a reasonable
> person.

People who engage in name calling
while pretending to engage in honest
debate are not reasonable people.

Maybe it is honest? truth? who is
the forum idiot.
---
> “Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there is


> not one as irrational as anti-Semitism.

Sure there is. It's called Zionist racism.

[Honest? truth? does not deny or refute this]

> … If the Jews are rich [these


> fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood.

It's true that opposite Jewish racists


such as Deborah, the Palestinians
simply can't win. It's precisely the
pattern described by Lloyd George.
As to the benefit to be gained by

the spilling of non-Jewish blood, no


one can doubt that there has been
a good deal of spilling of American
and British blood and that Israel

has not only had a part of


engineering it but has seen herself
as benefiting from it. Her arch
enemy, Iraq, has been destroyed.
Her arch enemy, Iran is sanctioned
and surrounded. Her arch enemy
Syria has been debilitated
and pillaged. Her enemy, the
Lebanese, whose land the Israelis
still covet, caught in the middle,
have been devastated over and over
again, their fragile democracy
pummeled over and over. The
Hashemite enemy, Jordan is
destabilized by the presence of
hundreds of thousands of
Palestinian Refugees as a direct
result of Israeli aggression. Look
at the history. Who can doubt that
the Zionist experiment has been
the worst thing to happen to the
Middle East in the entire 20th
Century.

[Honest? truth? does not deny or refute this]

But then you can't blame poor old
Lloyd George. He couldn't look into
the future.

> If they espouse peace, it


> is because they are scared by their natures or traitors.

But this is the claim of the right-wing


Zionists against fellow-Jews who
don't toe the line, those who aren't
the obscenely wealthy "conservatives."

[Honest? truth? does not deny or refute this]

> If the Jew dwells
> in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to

> his own land, he is prevented from doing so.”

His own land? It's not enough to be
highly prosperous citizens of Britain
and the United States? Surely you
wouldn't deny that the US is "your
own land"? Yet it's still required to
take another land, the land of
Palestinian peasant farmers by brute
force? And to corrupt the American
Congress and to intimidate the
politically correct American people
in order to accomplish it?

[Honest? truth? does not deny or refute this]

docremington

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Nov 28, 2009, 12:43:50 AM11/28/09
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peace.seeker.27 wrote:
> On Nov 25, Honest? truth? <Honest?_tr...@Wisdom?.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 iconocl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>On Nov 24, Honest? truth? <Honest?_tr...@Wisdom?.net> wrote:
> >>> I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
> >>> Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews died.
>
> Finkelstein is the child of two Holocaust
> survivors.
>

Does it make him a less schmucky driveling idiot? Of course, not. That
simple. Let's take a look at Jimster Carter, for example. He had been
a US president, driveling rights and stuff, and, what do you know, he
facilitated an ayatollah power grab. Privately, behind closed doors,
when taking a break from dissing the US, ayatollahs must be thanking
him for that. Schmuck? Of course!

> [drivel]

AgitProp

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:35:44 AM11/28/09
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On Nov 25, 5:39 am, "tdny" <t...@live.com> wrote:
> "Honest truth" <Honest_tr...@Wisdom.net> wrote in message

>
> news:29s7bo650pn7.d...@40tude.net...
>
> > I do not see how mentioning Norman Finkelstein helps your case. Norman
> > Finkelstein does state that the holocaust happened and 6,000,000 jews
> > died.
>
> Only a fool or an evil person, would deny that the Nazi Holocaust took
> place.
> The Nazi Holocaust took place, unfortunately.
> Nazi Holocaust is a terrible stain on humanity,


Really?! - What about the 100 Million Russians and East Europeans
murdered by the jew commies?


> because those that were in a
> position
> to stop it, allowed that horror to continue, looked the other way.

And we should give a fuck, why?

> And even now in Israel, Nazi Holocaust survivors are given short shrift,
> down to where some of them cannot afford basic items, such as dentures and
> eyeglasses,
> while living in Israel.
> Also, Nazi Holocaust survivors are being charged outrageous fees, by those
> that
> represent them, in Israel.
> The Israeli government says, it is helpless to do anything about that.
> They are being charged these fees, when they go to initiate the legal
> process
> to get some of what is due them back from the countries that robbed them.
>
> > --

> > “Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there
> > is
> > not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these


> > fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
> > ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
> > advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
> > is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
> > in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to

> > his own land, he is prevented from doing so.”
>
> > Lloyd George

Kenneth McVay OBC

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Nov 28, 2009, 2:46:01 PM11/28/09
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In article <a83514dc-1dfa-41f2...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
AgitProp <baron.ro...@live.co.uk> wrote:

[...]

>Really?! - What about the 100 Million Russians and East Europeans
>murdered by the jew commies?

How many "jew commies" were there, and how do you know that they,
and they alone, were responsible for 100 million murders?

Documentation, please.

--
"Streicher commit suicide while in the Nuremberg Jail But you
people did hang him after that"
(Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Moron)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/

peace.seeker.27

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Dec 9, 2009, 9:35:37 AM12/9/09
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It takes one to know one.

Hypnos

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Dec 9, 2009, 10:07:40 AM12/9/09
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On Nov 29, 6:46 am, kmc...@oldshell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:
> In article <a83514dc-1dfa-41f2-b6e4-a40f22a27...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> AgitProp  <baron.rothsch...@live.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >Really?! - What about the 100 Million Russians and East Europeans
> >murdered by the jew commies?
>
> How many "jew commies" were there, and how do you know that they,
> and they alone, were responsible for 100 million murders?
>
> Documentation, please.

You never offer any to support your amazing spam - why ask
for documentation on "is the sun shining"?

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