The Real Scandal? The Republican Party

[John Manning]

“Controversy equalizes fools and wise men
– and the fools know it.”

~Oliver Wendell Holmes


Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican’s
priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.

Now, after a long economic winter, green shoots are everywhere: The
stock market is
booming, housing prices are rebounding and mortgage providers Fannie
Mae and
Freddie Mac, long demonized by Republicans, are returning profits to
the Treasury.

Job growth has accelerated and consumer confidence has reached its
highest level in
almost six years.

Health-care cost increases are slowing, Medicare’s prospects are
improving — in part
because of President Obama’s health-care reforms — and gasoline
prices are forecast
to decline.

Long-term fiscal problems remain, but the federal deficit is
shrinking, putting off
Washington’s debt-ceiling standoff until late fall.

Yet House Republicans have shelved a serious legislative agenda this
year in favor of
24/7 investigations.

Just yesterday, here’s what Republicans were up to:

2 separate hearings on alleged wrongdoing by the Obama administration
a Ways and Means Committee heard complaints from various tea party
groups about
the IRS messing with their rights

Other than the Ways and Means hearing,

there will be two other House committee hearings this week on
alleged abuses by the
IRS

And all of this is happening while,

5 (read it, FIVE!!) distinct committees investigate the
make-believe BENGHAZI
SCANDAL

Milbank:

A good indication of House Republicans’ mind-set came last week,
when Rep. John
Boehner’s spokesman wrote on the House speaker’s official blog that
a speech by
Obama on student loans was an attempt “to change the subject from
its growing list of
scandals.”

It’s telling that the GOP leadership would view a student loan
event as a distraction
from scandals but wouldn’t see the obsession with scandals as a
distraction from
pocketbook issues.

As The Post’s Paul Kane reported Tuesday, House Republicans haven’t
passed much
ambitious legislation this year after they “disintegrated into
squabbling factions, no
longer able to agree on — much less execute — some of the most
basic government
functions.”

One of the few things that unite them is the investigation of
scandals. A few weeks
ago, Heritage Action for America, an influential conservative
group, suggested that
House Republicans focus on investigations and avoid legislation
that could divide
them.

All of which takes us back to the Oliver Wendell Holmes quote on fools
needing controversy to equalize their standing with wise men…and nothing
equalizes better than being dragged into a mud pit by a fool and his
friends.

Links and more included:
http://mariopiperni.com/republican-politics/the-real-scandal-the-republican-party.php

[MarkA]

On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:

>
>
> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools

> know it."
>
> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
>
>
> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.
>

Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
about a year ago are all improving. About the only thing the GOP can do
is to try to invent problems. They haven't figured out it winds up making
them look bad, rather than having any effect on Obama.

--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock

[John Manning]

On 6/6/2013 11:53 AM, MarkA wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools
>> know it."
>>
>> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
>>
>>
>> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
>> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.
>>
>
> Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
> about a year ago are all improving. About the only thing the GOP can do
> is to try to invent problems. They haven't figured out it winds up making
> them look bad, rather than having any effect on Obama.
>

Which shows up in the polls: Obama Positive - Republicans in the Toilet


OBAMA Approval:


BLOOMBERG - 5/31 - 6/3/13 49% Approve 46% Disapprove

NBC/Wall St. Journal - 5/30 - 6/2/13 48% Approve 47% Disapprove

ABC/Washington Post - 5/16-19/13 51% Approve 44% Disapprove

CNN/ORC 5/17-18/13 53% Approve 45% Disapprove

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm



REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS Approval:


QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY POLL May 22-28, 2013.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are
handling their job?"

Approve 24% Disapprove 67% Unsure 9%


PEW RESEARCH CENTER May 1-5, 2013.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the job the Republican leaders in
Congress are doing?" If "depends": "Overall, do you approve or
disapprove of the job the Republican leaders in Congress are doing?"

Approve 22% Disapprove 68% Unsure 10%


BLOOMBERG NATIONAL POLL conducted by Selzer & Company.
May 31-June 3, 2013. N=1,002 adults nationwide.
Margin of error ą 3.1.

"Now, I'm going to mention some people and groups in the news recently.
For each, please tell me if your feelings are very favorable, mostly
favorable, mostly unfavorable, or very unfavorable. If you don't know
enough to answer, just say so. The Republicans in Congress."

Favorable 35% Unfavorable 53% Unsure 12%

http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm

[plainolamerican]

> Links and more included:http://mariopiperni.com/republican-politics/the-real-scandal-the-repu...

now that the economy is on the rebound

---
democrats will spend other people's money like never before.

"A democracy can only exist until the voters discover that they can
vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.” AUTHOR: Alexander
Fraser Tytler

[independent mind]

On Jun 5, 4:07 pm, John Manning <jrobe...@terra.com.br> wrote:

OTOH:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/toons/walters/Kirk_C20130509_450.jpg

[duke]

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:53:56 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools
>> know it."
>>
>> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
>>
>>
>> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
>> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.

>Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
>about a year ago are all improving.

They are??? Haahaahaa.

Acorn by any other name is acorn.
Benghazi scandal.
IRS scandal.
Reporters targeted
Holder lies.
Guns to Mexico.


The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama
You simply can't fix stupid.
********************************************

[Logan Sacket]

On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:59:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:53:56 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools
>>> know it."
>>>
>>> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
>>> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.
>
>>Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
>>about a year ago are all improving.
>
>They are??? Haahaahaa.
>
>Acorn by any other name is acorn.
>Benghazi scandal.
>IRS scandal.
>Reporters targeted
>Holder lies.
>Guns to Mexico.
>

The local paper commented that the Obama administration is the most
corrupt administration in the history of the United States.

[Ben Kaufman]

On Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), independent mind <po...@rock.com>
wrote:

And the Republicans are hard at work "protecting" students from these "college
scams" by making it even harder to go to college by raising student loan
interest rates.

[duke]

Yep, nothing but scandals starting to break. But no rush. Just keep building
the cases to explode about the time of the 2014/2016 elections.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 08 Jun 2013 12:05:46 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in
alt.atheism:

>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:14:28 GMT, logan....@gmail.com (Logan Sacket) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:59:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:53:56 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools
>>>>> know it."
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
>>>>> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.
>>>
>>>>Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
>>>>about a year ago are all improving.
>>>
>>>They are??? Haahaahaa.
>>>
>>>Acorn by any other name is acorn.
>>>Benghazi scandal.
>>>IRS scandal.
>>>Reporters targeted
>>>Holder lies.
>>>Guns to Mexico.
>>>
>>
>>The local paper commented that the Obama administration is the most
>>corrupt administration in the history of the United States.
>
>Yep, nothing but scandals starting to break. But no rush. Just keep building
>the cases to explode about the time of the 2014/2016 elections.

Too bad there aren't any rational people who are offering an alternative
to the Democratic party.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <40p6r8lbb25rv666u...@4ax.com>,

duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:14:28 GMT, logan....@gmail.com (Logan Sacket) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:59:27 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:53:56 -0400, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:07:33 -0300, John Manning wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Controversy equalizes fools and wise men - and the fools
> >>>> know it."
> >>>>
> >>>> ~Oliver Wendell Holmes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Interesting piece by Dana Milbank (Washington Post) on Republican's
> >>>> priorities now that the economy is on the rebound.
> >>
> >>>Nice piece. As Milbank points out, the problems everyone was so worried
> >>>about a year ago are all improving.
> >>
> >>They are??? Haahaahaa.
> >>
> >>Acorn by any other name is acorn.
> >>Benghazi scandal.
> >>IRS scandal.
> >>Reporters targeted
> >>Holder lies.
> >>Guns to Mexico.
> >>
> >
> >The local paper commented that the Obama administration is the most
> >corrupt administration in the history of the United States.
>
> Yep, nothing but scandals starting to break. But no rush. Just keep building
> the cases to explode about the time of the 2014/2016 elections.

Yeah, just like they broke in the 1998 elections.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[MarkA]

Heehee. Won't the GOP be surprised when THEY are the ones who look like
idiots in the 2014/2016 elections? Just like they did in 2012?

If they weren't so proficient at reality denial, they might see it coming.
But, they won't.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <pan.2013.06.11...@nowhere.invalid>,

Yep. They still think their only problem was with their messaging, not
their message.

[Dakota]

Their messaging and the fact that they weren't able to rig enough
voting machines or pass voter ID laws in enough states. Next time
they'll double down on the message and try to fix their other problems.

[Logan Sacket]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:07:29 -0500, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:

Yea, where's the OUTCRY !

[duke]

Come back, President Bush. We miss you and your honesty.

[duke]

Yeah, look at the impotent loser we have now.

[Dreamer In Colore]

http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bush-lies.html

This is what you long for, troglodyte? Bush was an abysmal
president... perhaps the worst in the history of your country.

[duke]

Nope. The order of ill repute is ) 'rat buckwheat, b) 'rat carter, c) 'rat
clinton, d) Nixon.

The dukester, American - American

********************************************

Repeal Obama - most impotent president ever.
Five major US scandals and still going strong:
a)Fast/Furious,b)IRS,c)NSA d)News Phone Records,
e)Selective enforcement of environmental laws
********************************************

[MarkA]

To which impotent loser do you refer? Boehner? McConnell? Or McCain?
How about Issa? Or the former recent President who is such an
embarrassment that his own party won't even mention his name? (Hint: His
name starts with "GW" and ends with "Bush")

I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented loser
fucktard'!

[Jason]

In article <egtmr8t4t2cdjqocj...@4ax.com>, duke

e) Obama for acting like Nixon in regard to targeting his political enemies.

[Jason]

In article <pan.2013.06.14...@nowhere.invalid>, MarkA

Are you still a supporter of Obama?

Before you answer, keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon in
regard to targeting political enemies.,

[Tom McDonald]

Ahem. Duke meant Obama when he wrote "'rat buckwheat". Do you approve of
that racism, Jason?

[Jason]

In article <_VOut.21240$hh3....@newsfe23.iad>, Tom McDonald

I would not use that term for Obama.

[Tom McDonald]

Do you approve of racism directed at the President? Have you ever
laughed at a racist joke about Obama?

[John Manning]

That's a lie.

Conservative Republican IRS Manager: White House Not Involved In Review
of Tea Party, I Started It

WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — A self-described conservative
Republican who is a manager in the Internal Revenue Service office that
targeted tea party groups told investigators that he, not the White
House, set
the review in motion, the top Democrat on the House watchdog committee said
Sunday.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., released a partial transcript of
the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform interview
with the unnamed manager in the IRS’ Cincinnati office. In it, the employee
said the extra scrutiny for tea party groups’ tax exempt status was an
effort
to be consistent in reviewing applications and not driven by politics.

~~ Full article:
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-manager-white-house-not-involved-reviews

[John Manning]

[Mitchell Holman]

Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:

Obama can never run for president again,
he doesn't HAVE "political enemies". He
already won his last election.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Even if that weren't a lie, what difference would it make.

ANYthing is better than the Republicans.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

Then explain how the person who started the IRS kerfuffle is a
Republican.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <XnsA1DFD6ABDD8C7...@216.196.121.131>,

Excellent point.

[Jason]

In article <EaPut.28822$1O3....@newsfe22.iad>, Tom McDonald

no and no

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-C0356D...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

He was a republican that may have been taking orders from his boss that
was a democrat. I was a conservative republican that work for a state
agency for over 28 years and many of my various bosses were liberal
democrats. I still done what they told me to do.

[Jason]

In article <XnsA1DFD6ABDD8C7...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:

When the election was going on, he did not know if he would win or lose.
Therefore, he done whatever he needed to do to win the election. He knew
the tea party members were his political enemies so Obama may have ordered
his various staff members to make sure the IRS targeted the tea party
members so that they would be so busy dealing with the IRS that they would
not have focused on politics during the election.

[Jason]

In article <D9idnXWm2YHdVybM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

The above information has incorrect information.

The several IRS agents that admitted that they were the ones that targeted
conservative organizations such as tea-party groups claimed they were
taking orders from a IRS lawyer named Carter Hall that worked in the IRS
office located in Washington, D.C. As of yet, Carter Hall has not yet
stated whom he was taking orders from.

<http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2013/June/IRS-Agents-Orders-Came-from-Washington-/>

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-F1D3F7...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

If Obama was filmed tomorrow robbing a bank in Washington, D.C., would you
still support Obama since he is better than the Republicans?

[Jason]

In article <D9idnXqm2YEqVCbM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

<http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2013/June/IRS-Agents-Orders-Came-from-Washington-/>

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

Why would we believe anything from CBN?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

What a stupid hypothetical.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

Bullshit.

The Tea Party isn't important enough for the most powerful man in the
world to give a damn about. They're only 8% of the population, so they
really aren't important to anybody but the Republicans who have enslaved
themselves to them.

Democrats love the Tea Party; most of the Tea Partiers who won primaries
showed the world what nutjobs they were and turned sure Republican wins
into Democratic ones. Think Sharron Angle. Think Christine McDonnell.
Think Todd Akin.

So it looks like you'll have to come up with a different lie.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article
<Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

What would you have done if they ordered you to do something political
and against the rules?

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-808D4F...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_259tdr_E8

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-3F0713...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

That never happened. I would not have violated the rules.

[Jeanne Douglas]

You would have done the courageous thing and risked your job rather than
do something wrong?

[Jeanne Douglas]

I repeat my question:

Why would we believe anything from CBN?

[Dakota]

I'm sure that President Obama got a kick out of how the Tea Party made
a laughingstock out of the GOP debates. I watched a couple of them.
They were hilarious.

[Tom McDonald]

That's not in evidence. It is possible that you are a space alien made
out of rock and spit. Prove me wrong. With undeniable evidence.

[Free Lunch]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 21:56:27 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

>> WASHINGTON (Associated Press) ?A self-described conservative

>> Republican who is a manager in the Internal Revenue Service office that
>> targeted tea party groups told investigators that he, not the White
>> House, set
>> the review in motion, the top Democrat on the House watchdog committee said
>> Sunday.
>>
>> Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., released a partial transcript of
>> the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform interview

>> with the unnamed manager in the IRS?Cincinnati office. In it, the employee
>> said the extra scrutiny for tea party groups?tax exempt status was an

>> effort
>> to be consistent in reviewing applications and not driven by politics.
>>
>> ~~ Full article:
>> http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-manager-white-house-not-involved-reviews
>
>The above information has incorrect information.
>
>The several IRS agents that admitted that they were the ones that targeted
>conservative organizations such as tea-party groups claimed they were
>taking orders from a IRS lawyer named Carter Hall that worked in the IRS
>office located in Washington, D.C. As of yet, Carter Hall has not yet
>stated whom he was taking orders from.
>
><http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2013/June/IRS-Agents-Orders-Came-from-Washington-/>
>

Pat Robertson is a reactionary Republican who alleges that he is
Christian. Nothing he does persuades me that he is. I have learned that
I cannot trust anything his organizations do because he has been willing
to tell falsehoods to enrich himself.

His employees know what lies he wants to hear.

[John Manning]

These are *YOUR* words:

"Keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon

in regard to targeting political enemies."

There is *NO* established connection to the White House or to president
Obama.
That's just another one of your flat out lies that have *NO* basis in
fact - just like
your false claim about "death panels" in Obamacare.

All you do is spout off an endless series of bullshit claims against
someone you hate
- Barack Obama - that you simply can't back up with solid, verifiable
evidence.

[John Manning]

That's where you're wrong again. Those groups were allowed to operate
during the period of investigation. Plus, NOT ONE of those conservative
groups was denied the tax exempt status they were seeking.

[John Manning]

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:57:02 -0300, John Manning <jrob...@terra.com.br>
wrote in alt.atheism:

Not true. They were allowed to operate freely, but were uncertain
whether they would qualify for the absurd loophole that allows them to
hide their donor list.

[John Manning]

[John Manning]

"May have been taking orders" is just speculation (guessing) on your
part, Jason.

> I was a conservative republican that work for a state
> agency for over 28 years and many of my various bosses were liberal
> democrats. I still done what they told me to do.

[John Manning]

On 6/15/2013 1:58 AM, Jason wrote:

How old are you, Jason? You sound like you're in the sixth grade.

[John Manning]

They were still allowed to operate during their period of investigation.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:14:22 -0300, John Manning <jrob...@terra.com.br>

Yes, we agree. I thought I had responded to Jason's foolish nonsense.
Sorry about putting my response in the wrong place.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:11:51 -0300, John Manning <jrob...@terra.com.br>
wrote in alt.atheism:

>On 6/15/2013 1:58 AM, Jason wrote:
>> In article <hlwdjsd2-F1D3F7...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <pan.2013.06.14...@nowhere.invalid>, MarkA
>>>> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

...

>>>>> To which impotent loser do you refer? Boehner? McConnell? Or McCain?
>>>>> How about Issa? Or the former recent President who is such an
>>>>> embarrassment that his own party won't even mention his name? (Hint: His
>>>>> name starts with "GW" and ends with "Bush")
>>>>>
>>>>> I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
>>>>> improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented loser
>>>>> fucktard'!
>>>>
>>>> Are you still a supporter of Obama?
>>>>
>>>> Before you answer, keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon in
>>>> regard to targeting political enemies.,
>>>
>>> Even if that weren't a lie, what difference would it make.
>>>
>>> ANYthing is better than the Republicans.
>>
>> If Obama was filmed tomorrow robbing a bank in Washington, D.C., would you
>> still support Obama since he is better than the Republicans?
>>
>>
>
>How old are you, Jason? You sound like you're in the sixth grade.

Apparently he has spent the past half-century in sixth grade.

Jason is a racists who grew up in Appalachian hills of Virginia and,
unlike most Virginians, never got over the fact that the descendants of
slaves or those who look like them are real human beings and need to be
treated as such.

He is still wishing that it were 1813 in Virginny and that he lived
there.

[John Manning]

Jason seems to lack any effective capacity for critical thinking,
self-reflection, or any real ability see beyond his apparent entrenched,
emotionally immature world view.

[duke]

>To which impotent loser do you refer?

Buckwheat, my boy, buckwheat. The most scandal plagued black comedian in
history. Even Heraldo Rivera referred to an the most impotent president ever.

>I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
>improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented loser
>fucktard'!

You have to suck hind teat. You voted for the crook. I voted for the
Republicans.

[duke]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:22:12 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>

wrote:

>In article
><Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>

>> In article <pan.2013.06.14...@nowhere.invalid>, MarkA

>> > To which impotent loser do you refer? Boehner? McConnell? Or McCain?
>> > How about Issa? Or the former recent President who is such an
>> > embarrassment that his own party won't even mention his name? (Hint: His
>> > name starts with "GW" and ends with "Bush")
>> >

>> > I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
>> > improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented loser
>> > fucktard'!
>>

>> Are you still a supporter of Obama?
>>
>> Before you answer, keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon in
>> regard to targeting political enemies.,
>
>Even if that weren't a lie, what difference would it make.
>
>ANYthing is better than the Republicans.

May you enjoy your hefty rise in insurance premiums.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-7D0C34...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

We had a union and it was difficult to fire employees.

[Jason]

In article <1htor8t3nchd1v1th...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>

[Jason]

In article <jf6dnQ6Tt-JIHiHM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

The investigations related to the IRS have not yet been completed.

They first tried to blame some rogue IRS for targeting tea-party groups.

Those so called rogue IRS agents have been interviewed by investigators.
They all claim they were taking orders from a lawyer that worked in the
IRS office located in Washington, D.C. As of yet, the lawyer has not
stated whom he was taking orders from. I tried to find a site from a news
bureau that you respected:

<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>

[Jason]

In article <mpWdnQ-7SfAp4iHM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

The investigation is not yet complete. Read this:

<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>

[Jason]

In article <yfZut.25023$JP.1...@newsfe16.iad>, Tom McDonald

Do you recall how the democrats first tried to blame some rogue IRS agents
for targeting tea party groups. We now know that was a lie. Those so
called rogue agents have been interviewed and claim they were taking
orders from a lawyer in the IRS WASHINGTON, D.C. office.

<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>

[Jason]

In article <ifadnbpnbcAnHSHM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

Some of them became so frustrated that they dropped out.

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-CBB07F...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

Because I watch the 700 Club television show which is related to CBN.

[Jason]

In article <a4adnc_SVteXHiHM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

The investigation is not yet complete:

<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:51:12 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:

>> > > > > WASHINGTON (Associated Press) ?A self-described conservative

>> > > > > Republican who is a manager in the Internal Revenue Service
>office that
>> > > > > targeted tea party groups told investigators that he, not the White
>> > > > > House, set
>> > > > > the review in motion, the top Democrat on the House watchdog
>> > committee said
>> > > > > Sunday.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., released a partial transcript of
>> > > > > the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform interview

>> > > > > with the unnamed manager in the IRS?Cincinnati office. In it, the
>> > employee
>> > > > > said the extra scrutiny for tea party groups?tax exempt status

>was an
>> > > > > effort
>> > > > > to be consistent in reviewing applications and not driven by politics.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ~~ Full article:
>> > > > >
>> > http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-manager-white-house-not-involved-reviews
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> >
><http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2013/June/IRS-Agents-Orders-Came-from-Was
>> > > > hington-/>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Why would we believe anything from CBN?
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_259tdr_E8
>>
>> I repeat my question:
>>
>> Why would we believe anything from CBN?
>
>Because I watch the 700 Club television show which is related to CBN.
>

Why do you watch Pat Robertson's lies and accept his con games?

[Jason]

In article <9eppr8pj12f11h4d7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

Because Pat Robertson and myself are on the same page related to our
Christian beliefs.

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:13:53 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

alt.atheism:

>In article <9eppr8pj12f11h4d7...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch
><lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:51:12 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>> alt.atheism:
>>
>> >In article <hlwdjsd2-CBB07F...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> >Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article
>> >> <Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <hlwdjsd2-808D4F...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
>> >> > Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

...

>> >> > > Why would we believe anything from CBN?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_259tdr_E8
>> >>
>> >> I repeat my question:
>> >>
>> >> Why would we believe anything from CBN?
>> >
>> >Because I watch the 700 Club television show which is related to CBN.
>> >
>> Why do you watch Pat Robertson's lies and accept his con games?
>
>Because Pat Robertson and myself are on the same page related to our
>Christian beliefs.
>

How sad. It is clear that both of you reject what Jesus taught. I cannot
see how either one of you can claim to be Christians with a straight
face, but there are so many fake-Christians who spew their hatred of
others and contempt for those in need that I am not surprised that
Christianity is poisoned by such fraudulent claims.

I say with absolute confidence that neither of you are going to the
heaven preached by Christianity.

[Tom McDonald]

I don't think that qualifies as undeniable evidence that you are not a
space alien made out of rock and spit. Try again.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-15061...@66.53.221.124>,

That does not answer my question, so try again.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <kphkas$1k3$2...@dont-email.me>, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
wrote:

> On 6/15/2013 12:17 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article
> > <Jason-14061...@66-53-214-172.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >

> >> In article <XnsA1DFD6ABDD8C7...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> >> Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >>> news:Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >>>

> >>>> In article <egtmr8t4t2cdjqocj...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is what you long for, troglodyte? Bush was an abysmal
> >>>>>> president... perhaps the worst in the history of your country.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nope. The order of ill repute is ) 'rat buckwheat, b) 'rat carter,
> >>>>> c) 'rat clinton, d) Nixon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The dukester, American - American
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ********************************************
> >>>>> Repeal Obama - most impotent president ever.
> >>>>> Five major US scandals and still going strong:
> >>>>> a)Fast/Furious,b)IRS,c)NSA d)News Phone Records,
> >>>>> e)Selective enforcement of environmental laws
> >>>>> ********************************************
> >>>>
> >>>> e) Obama for acting like Nixon in regard to targeting his political
> >>>> enemies.
> >>>
> >>>

> >>> Obama can never run for president again,
> >>> he doesn't HAVE "political enemies". He
> >>> already won his last election.
> >>
> >> When the election was going on, he did not know if he would win or lose.
> >> Therefore, he done whatever he needed to do to win the election. He knew
> >> the tea party members were his political enemies so Obama may have ordered
> >> his various staff members to make sure the IRS targeted the tea party
> >> members so that they would be so busy dealing with the IRS that they would
> >> not have focused on politics during the election.
> >

> > Bullshit.
> >
> > The Tea Party isn't important enough for the most powerful man in the
> > world to give a damn about. They're only 8% of the population, so they
> > really aren't important to anybody but the Republicans who have enslaved
> > themselves to them.
> >
> > Democrats love the Tea Party; most of the Tea Partiers who won primaries
> > showed the world what nutjobs they were and turned sure Republican wins
> > into Democratic ones. Think Sharron Angle. Think Christine McDonnell.
> > Think Todd Akin.
> >
> > So it looks like you'll have to come up with a different lie.
> >
> I'm sure that President Obama got a kick out of how the Tea Party made
> a laughingstock out of the GOP debates. I watched a couple of them.
> They were hilarious.

Indeed. It was the greatest comedy show going in 2011-12.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-15061...@66.53.221.124>,

That's why YOU believe their lies. But that's not what I asked, now is
it?

> > Why would we believe anything from CBN?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <Jason-15061...@66.53.221.124>,

So why are you making unevidenced accusations?

[John Manning]

That's because that slimy huckster Darrel Issa is refusing
to release the full transcripts of the interviews.

What I wrote stands:

These are *YOUR* words:

"Keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon
in regard to targeting political enemies."

There is *NO* established connection to the White House or to president
Obama. That's just another one of your flat out lies that have *NO* basis in
fact - just like your false claim about "death panels" in Obamacare.


>

[John Manning]

That's because that slimy huckster Darrel Issa is refusing
to release the full transcripts of the interviews.

What I wrote stands:

[John Manning]

Why would they drop out if they could continue to operate?
That's just plain stupid... like you.

[John Manning]

Not this one:

[John Manning]

WASHINGTON (Associated Press) — A self-described conservative

Republican who is a manager in the Internal Revenue Service office that
targeted tea party groups told investigators that he, not the White
House, set
the review in motion, the top Democrat on the House watchdog committee said
Sunday.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., released a partial transcript of
the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform interview

with the unnamed manager in the IRS’ Cincinnati office. In it, the employee
said the extra scrutiny for tea party groups’ tax exempt status was an

[John Manning]

Not this one:

[John Manning]

It's not complete ONLY because that slimy transparent huckster Darrel Issa
has refused to release the full transcripts of the interviews with IRS
agents.
Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., also on the committee, has seen all of the
transcripts
and wants to release them because he has said there IS NO CASE against
the White House or Obama. Issa is stonewalling because he *KNOWS* there
is no case.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <xsednQ-pLrA0nCDM...@giganews.com>,

It's not even necessary for them to apply; they just operate and take
their chances.

[John Manning]

Jason doesn't appear to have the ability to understand that.

[Michael Ejercito]

"Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
news:hlwdjsd2-F1D3F7...@news.giganews.com...

>In article
><Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,

>Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:

>> In article <pan.2013.06.14...@nowhere.invalid>, MarkA
>> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>
> >> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:57:00 -0500, duke wrote:
> >>
> > >>
> > > >Yeah, look at the impotent loser we have now.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >To which impotent loser do you refer? Boehner? McConnell? Or McCain?
> > >How about Issa? Or the former recent President who is such an
> > >embarrassment that his own party won't even mention his name? (Hint:
> > >His
> > >name starts with "GW" and ends with "Bush")
> > >
> > >I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
> > >improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented
> > >loser
> > >fucktard'!
> >
> >Are you still a supporter of Obama?
> >

> >Before you answer, keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon in
> >regard to targeting political enemies.,

>Even if that weren't a lie, what difference would it make.
Of course it is not a lie.

>ANYthing is better than the Republicans.
Yeah, look at the following nonsense Republicans came up with.


http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/05/boys-to-shower-with-girls-in-california-public-schools/


http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/03/colorado_democrats_to_rape_victims_lie_back_and_enjoy_it.html



Michael

[Mitchell Holman]

"Michael Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:kpj2tt$c0i$1...@dont-email.me:

"Rape is like bad weather - if it is
inevitable, just lay back and enjoy it"
Republican Gov. candidate, Texas, 1990

http://www.mahalo.com/clayton-williams-rape-joke/

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <kpj2tt$c0i$1...@dont-email.me>,

"Michael Ejercito" <meje...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-F1D3F7...@news.giganews.com...
>
> >In article
> ><Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>
> >> In article <pan.2013.06.14...@nowhere.invalid>, MarkA
> >> <nob...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> > >> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:57:00 -0500, duke wrote:
> > >>
> > > >>
> > > > >Yeah, look at the impotent loser we have now.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >To which impotent loser do you refer? Boehner? McConnell? Or McCain?
> > > >How about Issa? Or the former recent President who is such an
> > > >embarrassment that his own party won't even mention his name? (Hint:
> > > >His
> > > >name starts with "GW" and ends with "Bush")
> > > >
> > > >I hear the GOP is considering a new motto, as part of their effort to
> > > >improve their image: The GOP: because there is no 'I' in 'demented
> > > >loser
> > > >fucktard'!
> > >
> > >Are you still a supporter of Obama?
> > >
> > >Before you answer, keep in mind that Obama is acting a lot like Nixon in
> > >regard to targeting political enemies.,
>
> >Even if that weren't a lie, what difference would it make.
> Of course it is not a lie.

Where's your evidence?

[John Manning]

Another idiot believes the horse shit from right wing blogs.



> Michael

[%]

i'm sure you could

[Michael Ejercito]

"John Manning" wrote in message
news:0-adnfYlXNyHuyDM...@giganews.com...

It is far from horseshit. William A. Levinson has a reputation for
credibility; you do not.

He used actual quotes to make his argument.


Michael



> Michael

[Jason]

In article <gtppr8p8v07qequo9...@4ax.com>, Free Lunch

Since you are NOT out final judge, your opinion does not concern me and
probably does not concern brother Pat Robertson.

[The Revd]

LOL! Bill Levinstein, whose fat jew rectum you suck, has a reputation
for excreting jew lies from his rear end. And you have a reputation
for sucking them out!

> He used actual quotes to make his argument.

He doesn't 'make' arguments, gook.

BTW that's a faggot you're arguing with. He supports same-sex
'marriage' for EVERYONE!

[Free Lunch]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:09:10 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in

I'm sure it does not concern you. All I have is what the gospels tell
us. You act as if you have private information from your god that shows
that Jesus was wrong.

[Jason]

In article <xsednQypLrDZnCDM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

As of today, you are 100% correct. However, it's a FACT that various high
ranking employees of the IRS have visited the White House hundreds of
times. The IRS Union Chief met with Obama the day before the IRS started
targeting tea-party organizations. That means if Obama does not know what
was going on at the IRS in regard to the targeting of tea party groups, it
means Obama was out of the loop on one of the most important issues in the
news this year.

I seem to recall that Nixon claimed for many weeks or months that he had
nothing to do with the Watergate break-in. It was later proved that he was
lying.

It is very possible that this story may end up the same way. Several
months from now, we may found out that Obama knew ALL about the fact that
the IRS was targeting tea party groups.

Before you respond, visit this newsgroup and read the story:

<http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/20/Obama-Met-With-IRS-Union-Boss-Day-Before-Tea-Party-Targeting-Began>

[Jason]

In article <hlwdjsd2-0E14B6...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

[Jason]

In article <xsednQ-pLrA0nCDM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

They still exist but don't have tax exempt statis.

[Jason]

In article <ZpidnZ-nY_iumyDM...@giganews.com>, John Manning

They wanted tax exempt status but gave up trying to get it.

[Jason]

In article <Lg6vt.72406$1p2....@newsfe25.iad>, Tom McDonald
<kil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/15/2013 4:45 PM, Jason wrote:
> > In article <yfZut.25023$JP.1...@newsfe16.iad>, Tom McDonald
> > <kil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >

> >> On 6/14/2013 11:45 PM, Jason wrote:
> >>> In article <hlwdjsd2-C0356D...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne

> >>> Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In article

> >>>> <Jason-14061...@67-150-127-128.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> >>>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> >>>>

> >>>>> In article <egtmr8t4t2cdjqocj...@4ax.com>, duke
> >>>>> <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>

> >>>>>>> This is what you long for, troglodyte? Bush was an abysmal
> >>>>>>> president... perhaps the worst in the history of your country.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nope. The order of ill repute is ) 'rat buckwheat, b) 'rat carter,
> >>> c) 'rat
> >>>>>> clinton, d) Nixon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The dukester, American - American
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ********************************************
> >>>>>> Repeal Obama - most impotent president ever.
> >>>>>> Five major US scandals and still going strong:
> >>>>>> a)Fast/Furious,b)IRS,c)NSA d)News Phone Records,
> >>>>>> e)Selective enforcement of environmental laws
> >>>>>> ********************************************
> >>>>>
> >>>>> e) Obama for acting like Nixon in regard to targeting his political
> > enemies.
> >>>>

> >>>> Then explain how the person who started the IRS kerfuffle is a
> >>>> Republican.
> >>>
> >>> He was a republican that may have been taking orders from his boss that
> >>> was a democrat. I was a conservative republican that work for a state
> >>> agency for over 28 years and many of my various bosses were liberal
> >>> democrats. I still done what they told me to do.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> That's not in evidence. It is possible that you are a space alien made
> >> out of rock and spit. Prove me wrong. With undeniable evidence.
> >
> > Do you recall how the democrats first tried to blame some rogue IRS agents
> > for targeting tea party groups. We now know that was a lie. Those so
> > called rogue agents have been interviewed and claim they were taking
> > orders from a lawyer in the IRS WASHINGTON, D.C. office.
> >
> >
<http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/10/18885289-at-the-irs-bureaucratic-finger-pointing-emerges?lite>
> >
> >

> I don't think that qualifies as undeniable evidence that you are not a
> space alien made out of rock and spit. Try again.

This is more truth--can you handle the truth?

<http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/20/Obama-Met-With-IRS-Union-Boss-Day-Before-Tea-Party-Targeting-Began>