Another New York Times Fabrication Exposed
Abe Kohen
how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor, a
Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times had to
issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr. Monsoor
was a Lebanese Christian.
Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times. How much longer before
they go bankrupt? Financially - that is.
Abe
DoD
> On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers and
> how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor, a
> Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times had to
> issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr. Monsoor
> was a Lebanese Christian.
You can set your watch to it.
David
fla...@verizon.net
On 11-Nov-2009, "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers and
>
> how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor, a
> Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times had
> to
> issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr. Monsoor
>
> was a Lebanese Christian.
>
> Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times.
Or yet another sympton of "partners with CNN"
Susan
mirjam
The family name could be a Sign Here , Monsoor is a derivation of Mon
Seur or Monsenior , This is one of the families the Crusaders left
behind ...
mirjam .
Joe Bruno
The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
conclusions.
I see it all the time on the Internet.
fla...@verizon.net
On 13-Nov-2009, Joe Bruno <joeb...@usa.com> wrote:
> The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
> conclusions.
Yeah, unlike those Cons, who never do that.
> I see it all the time on the Internet.
Yeah, me, too.
Susan
Matt Silberstein
soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
in <hdfs06$253$1...@harrier.steinthal.us> wrote:
Please tell me what more perfect news source I can use.
--
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> On 13-Nov-2009, Joe Bruno <joebr...@usa.com> wrote:
>
> > The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
> > conclusions.
>
> Yeah, unlike those Cons, who never do that.
>
> > I see it all the time on the Internet.
>
> Yeah, me, too.
>
> Susan
It happened right here on SCJM. I said I was a prosecutor in the Navy
and every lib automatically assumed I was claiming to be a lawyer and
claiming I practiced in court. Then they began saying I couldn't do
it.
After I explained that Legal Officers only prosecute at Captain's
Mast, they pretended not to hear me and then pretended they didn't
understand.
Matt Silberstein
soc.culture.jewish.moderated , Joe Bruno <joeb...@usa.com> in
<ca7ec984-c683-401c...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Now that is funny Joe, that is really funny.
Abe Kohen
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC), in
> soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
> in <hdfs06$253$1...@harrier.steinthal.us> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers and
>>how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor, a
>>Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times had
>>to
>>issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr. Monsoor
>>was a Lebanese Christian.
>>
>>Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times. How much longer before
>>they go bankrupt? Financially - that is.
>
> Please tell me what more perfect news source I can use.
There are NO PERFECT news sources. All sources are biased. Some biases are
in your direction; others in the opposite. Militant/terrorist/guerilla can
all be used to describe the same person; which one is chosen depends on the
bias of the writer.
I am always surprised how those on the left always look to one TRUE source -
whether it's called Pravda, NY Times, or MSNBC.
A more perfect news source is for the reader to expose themselves to
multiple streams of thought. I read in English: the (NY) Times, the (WS)
Journal, AlJazeera, and Globe & Mail, as well as other sources; in Hebrew:
Haaretz, Yediot, Debka, ... and occasionally newspapers in Hungarian or
German.
To read only the Times will leave the reader myopic at best.
Shavua Tov,
Abe
mm
wrote:
>On Nov 13, 12:09 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
>> On 13-Nov-2009, Joe Bruno <joebr...@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
>> > conclusions.
>>
>> Yeah, unlike those Cons, who never do that.
>>
>> > I see it all the time on the Internet.
>>
>> Yeah, me, too.
>>
>> Susan
>
>It happened right here on SCJM. I said I was a prosecutor in the Navy
>and every lib automatically assumed I was claiming to be a lawyer and
>claiming I practiced in court.
In the rest of the country, one has to be a lawyer to be a prosecutor.
It's not jumping to conclusions to figure the Navy is the same way as
98% of the country. Especially when they post back and you can
explain things.
And even for those who have been in the military, if they haven't
worked in the AG's office or been in trouble with the law, they
probably don't know there is any difference either.
Yet you think you've noticed something significant. You're funny.
>Then they began saying I couldn't do
>it.
>After I explained that Legal Officers only prosecute at Captain's
>Mast, they pretended not to hear me and then pretended they didn't
>understand.
Well of course people didn't understand. Did you explain what "Legal
Officers" were? For all I know they are lawyers. Or what "Captain's
Mast" was. Why do you call that an explanation?
--
Meir
"The baby's name is Shlomo. He's named after his grandfather, Scott."
mm
wrote:
>On Nov 11, 6:30 pm, "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
Conservatives have a tendency to jump to conclusions. I see it
everywhere.
Susan's post was sarcastic btw. I wouldn't bother to explain except
I've heard that sdnwotn.
Matt Silberstein
>
>"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPref...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
>message news:qbltf5l4fbgukshf8...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC), in
>> soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
>> in <hdfs06$253$1...@harrier.steinthal.us> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers and
>>>how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor, a
>>>Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times had
>>>to
>>>issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr. Monsoor
>>>was a Lebanese Christian.
>>>
>>>Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times. How much longer before
>>>they go bankrupt? Financially - that is.
>>
>> Please tell me what more perfect news source I can use.
>
>There are NO PERFECT news sources. All sources are biased.
*More* perfect? Which?
>Some biases are
>in your direction; others in the opposite. Militant/terrorist/guerilla can
>all be used to describe the same person; which one is chosen depends on the
>bias of the writer.
>
>I am always surprised how those on the left always look to one TRUE source -
>whether it's called Pravda, NY Times, or MSNBC.
I am not surprised that you turned my request for a single better
source into a claim that I wanted one and only one source.
>A more perfect news source is for the reader to expose themselves to
>multiple streams of thought. I read in English: the (NY) Times, the (WS)
>Journal, AlJazeera, and Globe & Mail, as well as other sources; in Hebrew:
>Haaretz, Yediot, Debka, ... and occasionally newspapers in Hungarian or
>German.
So you don't have a better source to recommend. You don't have some
news source that makes fewer mistakes and so one you won't hope goes
bankrupt.
>To read only the Times will leave the reader myopic at best.
If the Times goes bankrupt as you hope, then we will have fewer
sources to chose from. If they are all owned by Murdoch, then it won't
matter that they have several names.
Abe Kohen
If you insist on only one source (at your own peril), in today's world it
would be the Wall Street Journal. In tomorrow's world it will be Bloomberg
Media. Why tomorrow? Because today it is still restricted to financial
"terminal" subscribers. But they've been hiring journalists like crazy and I
would expect them to open up to a wider distribution.
>
>
>>To read only the Times will leave the reader myopic at best.
>
> If the Times goes bankrupt as you hope, then we will have fewer
> sources to chose from. If they are all owned by Murdoch, then it won't
> matter that they have several names.
Murdoch and Bloomberg! But don't count out web sources and foreign
newspapers not owned by either mogul.
Best,
Abe
fla...@verizon.net
On 14-Nov-2009, mm <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:04:21 +0000 (UTC), Joe Bruno <joeb...@usa.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Nov 11, 6:30�pm, "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
> >> On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers
> >> and
> >> how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor,
> >> a
> >> Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times
> >> had to
> >> issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr.
> >> Monsoor
> >> was a Lebanese Christian.
> >>
> >> Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times. How much longer
> >> before
> >> they go bankrupt? Financially - that is.
> >>
> >> Abe
> >
> >The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
> >conclusions.
> >I see it all the time on the Internet.
>
> Conservatives have a tendency to jump to conclusions. I see it
> everywhere.
>
> Susan's post was sarcastic btw.
Not in the sense that you mean, I think.
In fact, it was sarcastic only if yours was.
Susan
mm
>
>On 14-Nov-2009, mm <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:04:21 +0000 (UTC), Joe Bruno <joeb...@usa.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Nov 11, 6:30 pm, "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 8, 2009 the NY Times writing about our "heroic" Muslim soldiers
>> >> and
>> >> how "difficult" it was for them to serve, wrote about Michael Monsoor,
>> >> a
>> >> Navy Seal who earned a Medal of Honor. Today, Nov 11, 2009 the Times
>> >> had to
>> >> issue a correction (inside page 2 in the printed edition) that Mr.
>> >> Monsoor
>> >> was a Lebanese Christian.
>> >>
>> >> Hoof in the mouth disease for the glorious Times. How much longer
>> >> before
>> >> they go bankrupt? Financially - that is.
>> >>
>> >> Abe
This was the relevant part of my post:
>> >The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
>> >conclusions.
>> >I see it all the time on the Internet.
>>
>> Conservatives have a tendency to jump to conclusions. I see it
>> everywhere.
--end quote--
Susan's whole post was:
On 13-Nov-2009, Joe Bruno <joeb...@usa.com> wrote:
> The NY Times is very liberal. Libs have a tendency to jump to
> conclusions.
Yeah, unlike those Cons, who never do that.
> I see it all the time on the Internet.
Yeah, me, too.
Susan
--end quote--
>> Susan's post was sarcastic btw.
>
>Not in the sense that you mean, I think.
>In fact, it was sarcastic only if yours was.
You know, even though you and I made the same point in almost the same
way, somehow yours seems more like sarcasm then mine. I can't explain
it.
>
>Susan
>
>> I wouldn't bother to explain except
>> I've heard that sdnwotn.
--
Matt Silberstein
Ah, yes, the fancy Murdoch paper.
>In tomorrow's world it will be Bloomberg
>Media. Why tomorrow? Because today it is still restricted to financial
>"terminal" subscribers. But they've been hiring journalists like crazy and I
>would expect them to open up to a wider distribution.
How much investigative journalism do they do? Or are they just an
aggregator?
>>
>>
>>>To read only the Times will leave the reader myopic at best.
>>
>> If the Times goes bankrupt as you hope, then we will have fewer
>> sources to chose from. If they are all owned by Murdoch, then it won't
>> matter that they have several names.
>
>Murdoch and Bloomberg! But don't count out web sources and foreign
>newspapers not owned by either mogul.
Murdoch and "foreign newspapers" have lots of overlap.
Amitai
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:22:05 +0000 (UTC), in
> soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> >messagenews:olu1g55pprojq0acs...@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC), in
> >> soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
>
> >>>"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
> >>>messagenews:qbltf5l4fbgukshf8...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:30:41 +0000 (UTC), in
> >>>> soc.culture.jewish.moderated , "Abe Kohen" <ako...@xenon.stanford.edu>
Zeitung. I doubt whether this staid, studiously neutral, Swiss
publication could ever be taken over by Murdoch.
I was also going to suggest the Suddeutshe Zeitung, but I just found
out - Horror of Horrors - that their weekly English supplement gets
most of its material from the New York Times! :-!
Amitai
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