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Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offered them stress reduction recipe and not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
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In article <1761688.NBjzIIAMDz@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never even so much as having
raised a finger at her, and those she interacted with have taught her
the wrong idea about living and values in general. It is hardly the
first time in history that the portrait of a certain personage was
forbidden from public display. If you have to pray before Da Lama in
order to retain your faith, then you have got the wrong set of genes.
According to Darwin, those who possess the genes would not survive in
the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end? Does he think that a
bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger followed by suicide will be
able to manage a power generation and distribution authority and a
transportation authority. Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a
bunch of American contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous"
Tibet for him. Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and
monasteries are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right
now, he would have to find another way to get the money to feed those
consuming but not producing monks and monasteries? Does Da Lama think
that those easy to anger and violence followers wouldn't get angry
with him in the end when the Chinese were out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
lo yeeOn
>
>"I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an
>independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
>next life," Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local
>Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
>
>Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had
>visited Tamding Tso's home to pay their condolences and show their
>solidarity.
>
>Kyab said his daughter was "always concerned about Tibet's situation"
>and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
>"cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons."
>
>"What triggered her self-immolation," according to Kyab, was when
>both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month ago and
>"saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of
>the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest separatist
>forces and their activities."
>
>Kyab said his daughter was "visibly angered" and very saddened to see
>those posters, and recollected telling him: "Father, this is the sad
>destiny of Tibetan people. We can't even keep and pray before the
>picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama."
>
>A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration
>reads, "the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of His
>Holiness the Dalai Lama" and pledges to "maintain unity of the
>motherland and fight against the Dalai group's separatist activities.
>
>Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on
>fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm
>(local time) on November 7 shouting, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama must
>come to Tibet."
>
>Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the
>house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's
>portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
>
>"When I came to know about my daughter's self-immolation protest, it
>felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest," Kyab said. "She was
>my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger
>on her since she was born."
>
>However, the aggrieved father said his daughter's decision was for
>the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the
>His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
>
>"So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to
>respect her decision and sacrifice," Kyab added. "Therefore, I
>appeal to all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her
>goals and aspirations."
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree
>park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems
>and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of
>Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls
>died during that operation.
>
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was
>organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort
>doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
>blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands help you further your TGIE representative's position vis-a-vis
the autonomy talk with China according to your "Middle Way"?
So as you watched the 15/16 year-olds among your followers commit
seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, for your own aggrandizement, you
did not tell them that you had no intention to negotiate with the
Chinese government to ease their pain, unless China would hand over
one sixth of its territory to you. But did those 15/16 year old
children know that one sixth of China's terroritory was your aim,
instead of their chance to grow up being well-educated and empowered
to have a better life for themselves and their loved ones? No, they
certainly did not know that. Da Lama, you deceived them. You are
responsible for these grisly ritual child-sacrifices for your own
glory and your western paymaster's hegemonic agenda.
You know why you have an audience in Japan. There is a rightist group
which consists of Japanese, like the late Yukio Mishima and his fellow
believers and followers, who believe in taking Japan back to its vile
militarist past. Mishima, although a great writer of stories, spent
years, and many hours daily to build up a state of great anger that
could sustain the physical agaony of seppuku.
As Mishima and his fellow extreme rightists committed their seppuku,
they shouted the return of Imperial Japan where the emperor would be
revered as god. Da Lama, what is the difference between the Japanese
extremists who committed seppuku while shouting for the return of an
Imperial Japan and those extremist followers of yours who committed
self-immolation to give the TGIE an iconic Tibet is burning message
while they shouted for your return to Tibet and live for another ten
thousand years?
I see none, they are both extremist acts calling for a return of the
equivalent of the Dark Ages for both peoples.
In fact, when you claim you want to negotiate with the Chinese
government for a "genuine" autonomy, you shouldn't be injecting
yourself among the Japanese rightists who want Japan to claim the
islands all Chinese, whether they live in Hong Kong, or Taiwan, or
Mainland China, think are historically theirs, the islands they call
Diaoyu Tai Islands. There are at least three things all Chinese have
in common: they think that Diaoyu Tai Islands are Chinese territory,
not Japanese; they all have very bad memories of Japan's occupation of
China's northeast and later its full-blown invasion of China 1937-1945;
and Tibet has always been a part of China. By hobnobbing with Japan's
rightists, you go contrary to your claim to want to negotiate a
"genuine" autonomy for Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By hobnobbing with the Japanese rightists, you will further lose your
credibility in a billion Chinese eyes. No matter what you say, you
will only strengthen the Chinese government's credibility at the same
time. So, you have a lot of explaining to do before your followers,
unless you think they are just idiots worthy of your contempt!
Da Lama, if you are compassionate, you would immediately start your
compassion practice in Tibet by broadcasting your suicide-prevention
guidelines and help network and implore adult monks to give daily
lessons on the vice of killing oneself. Give them your recipe for
reducing stress and blood pressure. Da Lama, you should start act
like a spiritual healer, instead of a self-serving agent for the West.
You should at once redeem yourself for the destruction of those young
lives by stopping further such acts.
lo yeeOn
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By GILLIAN WONG Associated Press
BEIJING November 12, 2012 (AP)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-slams-dalai-lama-tibetan-immolates-17697568#.UKFkDsjyb-Q
China accused the Dalai Lama on Monday of allying with Japanese
right-wingers in an island dispute as a way of attacking China and
blamed him for glorifying a wave of self-immolations among
Tibetans. The comments came as another Tibetan set himself on fire to
protest Chinese rule, Tibetan exiles and a rights group said.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the Dalai Lama's
comments in Japan on the island dispute showed his "reactionary
nature" and determination to split China apart under the guise of
religion.
"To achieve his separatist goal, he associated with the Japanese
right-wing forces. Chinese people despise him for what he did. We
are firmly opposed to any country's providing a stage for him," Hong
said.
Chinese media have said the Dalai Lama called the islands by their
Japanese name during a news conference in Yokohama last Monday but an
Associated Press review of a tape of the event showed he referred to
them only as "the islands."
On Monday in Okinawa, the Dalai Lama criticized Chinese media for
making up a claim that he sided with the Japanese.
Tensions have run high over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japanese
and Diaoyu in Chinese, since the Japanese government nationalized some
of them in September in a bid to prevent Tokyo's right-wing governor
from buying them. Violent anti-Japanese protests broke out in a number
of Chinese cities, and Beijing has sent ships to conduct near-constant
patrols near the uninhabited rocks.
Hong also attacked the Dalai Lama for reportedly accusing the Chinese
government of failing to investigate the root cause of despair and
hopelessness among Tibetans that many say have prompted people to take
their lives as a form of protest. China has long accused the Dalai
Lama and his supporters of inspiring such acts, despite his
condemnation of all forms of violence.
"Not only did the Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified
these acts, which are against the national law and religious
principles," Hong said.
The remarks came as a 24-year-old Tibetan man set himself on fire at a
prayer ceremony in Tongren county in western China's Qinghai province,
becoming the seventh person in six days to self-immolate in the
region, the rights group Free Tibet said.
Nyingkar Tashi is reported to have died in the protest in which he
called out for freedom in Tibet and for the longevity of the Dalai
Lama, the group said. A statement from the self-declared Tibetan
government-in-exile in Dharmsala, India, provided similar details.
A Tongren government official who picked up the phone said he could
not comment, while Ma Chunyin, head of the Tongren Communist Party
Propaganda Department, said he did not know about the reported
self-immolation.
Tibet support groups overseas have said the increase in protests in
recent days is meant to highlight Tibetan unhappiness with Chinese
rule as the country's leaders hand over power to younger successors at
a party congress in Beijing.
"Throughout the 18th Party Congress the new unelected leaders have
been reminded on an almost daily basis of Tibetans' rejection of
Chinese rule, and of the terrible failure of policies to cement the
occupation," Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden said.
The Dalai Lama fled to India following an abortive 1959 uprising
against Chinese rule over Tibet. He denies seeking the region's
independence, saying that he wishes Tibetans to enjoy real autonomy
and protection of their traditional culture Buddhist
Associated Press writers Christopher Bodeen in Beijing and Mari
Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report..
---------
12 November 2012 Last updated at 07:48 ET
China warns Dalai Lama on Tibet immolations comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20293887
China has criticised Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, over
comments he reportedly made on a spate of self-immolations by ethnic
Tibetans.
Speaking in Japan, the Dalai Lama was quoted saying China was not
"seriously" looking at the causes of the protests and focusing on
blaming him instead.
China's foreign ministry accused him of "glorifying" the
self-immolations.
Nearly 70 Tibetans have set themselves alight since 2011 in what
activists say are protests against Beijing's rule.
Most are reported to have died. State media reported another
self-immolation on Saturday, bringing to seven the number in the past
week.
Gonpo Tsering, 18, set himself alight near a monastery in Hezou city
in Gansu province, Xinhua news agency reported
Beijing says Tibetans have religious freedom and accuses exiled
Tibetan leaders of stirring up unrest.
The latest incidents have taken place as China's Communist Party holds
a congress in Beijing that will begin the process of transferring
power to a new generation of leaders.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, said: "Not only did the
Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified these acts, which
are against the national law and religious principles."
He also accused the Dalai Lama of siding with right-wingers in Japan
over a tense territorial dispute with China.
The Dalai Lama, who is on a visit to Japan, had used the Japanese name
for an island chain claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, Mr Hong said.
On the subject of self-immolations, the exiled spiritual leader had
reportedly urged the Chinese government to investigate their cause.
"China does not look into it seriously and tries to end [the
incidents] only by criticising me," Kyodo news agency quoted him as
saying.
Foreign media are banned from the Tibet region, making the
self-immolation cases hard to verify.
Chinese state media have confirmed some of the self-immolations, but
not all.
>
>Speaking about the war-torn historical background of Okinawa island, His
>Holiness said, “Past is only a memory, an experience. We
>cannot change it. But the future depends on the present. And using the
>experience of the past, we have to build a peaceful and happier
>world”.
>
>At the same time, His Holiness mentioned that the method to achieve
>happiness should be realistic.
>
>“We have to look from various angles. One dimensional outlook is not
>enough. The method to attain peace should be realistic and
>holistic,” His Holiness said.
>
>“Fear, anger, jealousy, hatred, distrust; these negative emotion comes
>from the basis of self-centric arrogance. We have to train our
>mind to develop more compassion. Once we develop a sense of well-being
>for others, we develop a calm mind,” His Holiness added.
>
>His Holiness also stressed the need for secular moral ethics through a
>modern secular education.
>
>“Secularism means respect to all religious traditions including
>non-believers. Secular ethics promotes common interests on the basis of
>mutual respect and mutual harmony”, His Holiness said.
>
>A question and answer session was held after the talk.
>
>Tomorrow His Holiness will give a group interview to Okinawa TV and
>Ryukyu Shimpo newspaper. He will then leave for Tokyo where he
>will give a public talk on balancing the body and mind and will meet
>political leaders from various political parties of Japan.
>
>http://tibet.net/2012/11/12/dialogue-is-only-realistic-way-to-solve-problems-says-his-holiness/
>
>--
>A beautiful song from Tibet
>I miss Dalai Lama
>http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
>
>Following Tamding Tso's self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans
>have set themselves on fire inside Tibet, taking the toll to 72,
>since the wave of fiery protests began in 2009.
>
>The Letter:
>http://www.phayul.com/images/news/articles/121113024302N5.jpg
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bc24jja
>
>--
>A beautiful song from Tibet
>I miss Dalai Lama
>http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made
>an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never even so much as having
raised a finger at her, and those she interacted with have taught her
the wrong idea about living and values in general. It is hardly the
first time in history that the portrait of a certain personage was
forbidden from public display. If you have to pray before Da Lama in
order to retain your faith, then you have got the wrong set of genes.
According to Darwin, those who possess the genes would not survive in
the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end? Does he think that a
bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger followed by suicide will be
able to manage a power generation and distribution authority and a
transportation authority. Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a
bunch of American contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous"
Tibet for him. Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and
monasteries are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right
now, he would have to find another way to get the money to feed those
consuming but not producing monks and monasteries? Does Da Lama think
that those easy to anger and violence followers wouldn't get angry
with him in the end when the Chinese were out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
lo yeeOn
>
>"I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an
>independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
>next life," Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local
>Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
>
>Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had
>visited Tamding Tso's home to pay their condolences and show their
>solidarity.
>
>Kyab said his daughter was "always concerned about Tibet's situation"
>and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
>"cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons."
>
>"What triggered her self-immolation," according to Kyab, was when
>both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month ago and
>"saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of
>the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest separatist
>forces and their activities."
>
>Kyab said his daughter was "visibly angered" and very saddened to see
>those posters, and recollected telling him: "Father, this is the sad
>destiny of Tibetan people. We can't even keep and pray before the
>picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama."
>
>A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration
>reads, "the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of His
>Holiness the Dalai Lama" and pledges to "maintain unity of the
>motherland and fight against the Dalai group's separatist activities.
>
>Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on
>fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm
>(local time) on November 7 shouting, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama must
>come to Tibet."
>
>Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the
>house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's
>portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
>
>"When I came to know about my daughter's self-immolation protest, it
>felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest," Kyab said. "She was
>my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger
>on her since she was born."
>
>However, the aggrieved father said his daughter's decision was for
>the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the
>His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
>
>"So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to
>respect her decision and sacrifice," Kyab added. "Therefore, I
>appeal to all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her
>goals and aspirations."
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree
>park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems
>and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of
>Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls
>died during that operation.
>
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was
>organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort
>doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
>blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been sitting on
his fat ass and pointing a finger at the Chinese government, the party
he and his TGIE (Tibetan Government in Exile) have alternately begged
and screamed at to negotiate for a form of "genuine" autonomy for
Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By making virulent accusations at the party you purportedly want to
negotiate with, you make meaningful negotiation impossible. And so
you stall the negotiation and exacerbate the suffering of your
followers who have hung their hope on your leadership and dimplomacy.
And by obscuring how China's sovereignty over Tibet should interact
with your idea of a "genuine" autonomy, you have made your negotiating
position impossible to decipher and settlement impossible to reach.
Meanwhile, you go to Japan for 12 days, clearly with the intention to
coincide your presence in Japan with the Chinese leadership transfer
that has been taking place in Beijing. And you volunteered yourself
to talk about the islands hotly disputed between China and Japan.
How do you think the injection of yourself into the debate of those
islands help you further your TGIE representative's position vis-a-vis
the autonomy talk with China according to your "Middle Way"?
So as you watched the 15/16 year-olds among your followers commit
seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, for your own aggrandizement, you
did not tell them that you had no intention to negotiate with the
Chinese government to ease their pain, unless China would hand over
one sixth of its territory to you. But did those 15/16 year old
children know that one sixth of China's terroritory was your aim,
instead of their chance to grow up being well-educated and empowered
to have a better life for themselves and their loved ones? No, they
certainly did not know that. Da Lama, you deceived them. You are
responsible for these grisly ritual child-sacrifices for your own
glory and your western paymaster's hegemonic agenda.
You know why you have an audience in Japan. There is a rightist group
which consists of Japanese, like the late Yukio Mishima and his fellow
believers and followers, who believe in taking Japan back to its vile
militarist past. Mishima, although a great writer of stories, spent
years, and many hours daily to build up a state of great anger that
could sustain the physical agaony of seppuku.
As Mishima and his fellow extreme rightists committed their seppuku,
they shouted the return of Imperial Japan where the emperor would be
revered as god. Da Lama, what is the difference between the Japanese
extremists who committed seppuku while shouting for the return of an
Imperial Japan and those extremist followers of yours who committed
self-immolation to give the TGIE an iconic Tibet is burning message
while they shouted for your return to Tibet and live for another ten
thousand years?
I see none, they are both extremist acts calling for a return of the
equivalent of the Dark Ages for both peoples.
In fact, when you claim you want to negotiate with the Chinese
government for a "genuine" autonomy, you shouldn't be injecting
yourself among the Japanese rightists who want Japan to claim the
islands all Chinese, whether they live in Hong Kong, or Taiwan, or
Mainland China, think are historically theirs, the islands they call
Diaoyu Tai Islands. There are at least three things all Chinese have
in common: they think that Diaoyu Tai Islands are Chinese territory,
not Japanese; they all have very bad memories of Japan's occupation of
China's northeast and later its full-blown invasion of China 1937-1945;
and Tibet has always been a part of China. By hobnobbing with Japan's
rightists, you go contrary to your claim to want to negotiate a
"genuine" autonomy for Tibet under Chinese sovereignty.
By hobnobbing with the Japanese rightists, you will further lose your
credibility in a billion Chinese eyes. No matter what you say, you
will only strengthen the Chinese government's credibility at the same
time. So, you have a lot of explaining to do before your followers,
unless you think they are just idiots worthy of your contempt!
Da Lama, if you are compassionate, you would immediately start your
compassion practice in Tibet by broadcasting your suicide-prevention
guidelines and help network and implore adult monks to give daily
lessons on the vice of killing oneself. Give them your recipe for
reducing stress and blood pressure. Da Lama, you should start act
like a spiritual healer, instead of a self-serving agent for the West.
You should at once redeem yourself for the destruction of those young
lives by stopping further such acts.
lo yeeOn
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By GILLIAN WONG Associated Press
BEIJING November 12, 2012 (AP)
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-slams-dalai-lama-tibetan-immolates-17697568#.UKFkDsjyb-Q
China accused the Dalai Lama on Monday of allying with Japanese
right-wingers in an island dispute as a way of attacking China and
blamed him for glorifying a wave of self-immolations among
Tibetans. The comments came as another Tibetan set himself on fire to
protest Chinese rule, Tibetan exiles and a rights group said.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the Dalai Lama's
comments in Japan on the island dispute showed his "reactionary
nature" and determination to split China apart under the guise of
religion.
"To achieve his separatist goal, he associated with the Japanese
right-wing forces. Chinese people despise him for what he did. We
are firmly opposed to any country's providing a stage for him," Hong
said.
Chinese media have said the Dalai Lama called the islands by their
Japanese name during a news conference in Yokohama last Monday but an
Associated Press review of a tape of the event showed he referred to
them only as "the islands."
On Monday in Okinawa, the Dalai Lama criticized Chinese media for
making up a claim that he sided with the Japanese.
Tensions have run high over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japanese
and Diaoyu in Chinese, since the Japanese government nationalized some
of them in September in a bid to prevent Tokyo's right-wing governor
from buying them. Violent anti-Japanese protests broke out in a number
of Chinese cities, and Beijing has sent ships to conduct near-constant
patrols near the uninhabited rocks.
Hong also attacked the Dalai Lama for reportedly accusing the Chinese
government of failing to investigate the root cause of despair and
hopelessness among Tibetans that many say have prompted people to take
their lives as a form of protest. China has long accused the Dalai
Lama and his supporters of inspiring such acts, despite his
condemnation of all forms of violence.
"Not only did the Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified
these acts, which are against the national law and religious
principles," Hong said.
The remarks came as a 24-year-old Tibetan man set himself on fire at a
prayer ceremony in Tongren county in western China's Qinghai province,
becoming the seventh person in six days to self-immolate in the
region, the rights group Free Tibet said.
Nyingkar Tashi is reported to have died in the protest in which he
called out for freedom in Tibet and for the longevity of the Dalai
Lama, the group said. A statement from the self-declared Tibetan
government-in-exile in Dharmsala, India, provided similar details.
A Tongren government official who picked up the phone said he could
not comment, while Ma Chunyin, head of the Tongren Communist Party
Propaganda Department, said he did not know about the reported
self-immolation.
Tibet support groups overseas have said the increase in protests in
recent days is meant to highlight Tibetan unhappiness with Chinese
rule as the country's leaders hand over power to younger successors at
a party congress in Beijing.
"Throughout the 18th Party Congress the new unelected leaders have
been reminded on an almost daily basis of Tibetans' rejection of
Chinese rule, and of the terrible failure of policies to cement the
occupation," Free Tibet Director Stephanie Brigden said.
The Dalai Lama fled to India following an abortive 1959 uprising
against Chinese rule over Tibet. He denies seeking the region's
independence, saying that he wishes Tibetans to enjoy real autonomy
and protection of their traditional culture Buddhist
Associated Press writers Christopher Bodeen in Beijing and Mari
Yamaguchi in Tokyo contributed to this report..
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12 November 2012 Last updated at 07:48 ET
China warns Dalai Lama on Tibet immolations comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20293887
China has criticised Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, over
comments he reportedly made on a spate of self-immolations by ethnic
Tibetans.
Speaking in Japan, the Dalai Lama was quoted saying China was not
"seriously" looking at the causes of the protests and focusing on
blaming him instead.
China's foreign ministry accused him of "glorifying" the
self-immolations.
Nearly 70 Tibetans have set themselves alight since 2011 in what
activists say are protests against Beijing's rule.
Most are reported to have died. State media reported another
self-immolation on Saturday, bringing to seven the number in the past
week.
Gonpo Tsering, 18, set himself alight near a monastery in Hezou city
in Gansu province, Xinhua news agency reported
Beijing says Tibetans have religious freedom and accuses exiled
Tibetan leaders of stirring up unrest.
The latest incidents have taken place as China's Communist Party holds
a congress in Beijing that will begin the process of transferring
power to a new generation of leaders.
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman, Hong Lei, said: "Not only did the
Dalai not condemn them, but he actually glorified these acts, which
are against the national law and religious principles."
He also accused the Dalai Lama of siding with right-wingers in Japan
over a tense territorial dispute with China.
The Dalai Lama, who is on a visit to Japan, had used the Japanese name
for an island chain claimed by both Beijing and Tokyo, Mr Hong said.
On the subject of self-immolations, the exiled spiritual leader had
reportedly urged the Chinese government to investigate their cause.
"China does not look into it seriously and tries to end [the
incidents] only by criticising me," Kyodo news agency quoted him as
saying.
Foreign media are banned from the Tibet region, making the
self-immolation cases hard to verify.
Chinese state media have confirmed some of the self-immolations, but
not all.
>
>Speaking about the war-torn historical background of Okinawa island, His
>Holiness said, “Past is only a memory, an experience. We
>cannot change it. But the future depends on the present. And using the
>experience of the past, we have to build a peaceful and happier
>world”.
>
>At the same time, His Holiness mentioned that the method to achieve
>happiness should be realistic.
>
>“We have to look from various angles. One dimensional outlook is not
>enough. The method to attain peace should be realistic and
>holistic,” His Holiness said.
>
>“Fear, anger, jealousy, hatred, distrust; these negative emotion comes
>from the basis of self-centric arrogance. We have to train our
>mind to develop more compassion. Once we develop a sense of well-being
>for others, we develop a calm mind,” His Holiness added.
>
>His Holiness also stressed the need for secular moral ethics through a
>modern secular education.
>
>“Secularism means respect to all religious traditions including
>non-believers. Secular ethics promotes common interests on the basis of
>mutual respect and mutual harmony”, His Holiness said.
>
>A question and answer session was held after the talk.
>
>Tomorrow His Holiness will give a group interview to Okinawa TV and
>Ryukyu Shimpo newspaper. He will then leave for Tokyo where he
>will give a public talk on balancing the body and mind and will meet
>political leaders from various political parties of Japan.
>
>http://tibet.net/2012/11/12/dialogue-is-only-realistic-way-to-solve-problems-says-his-holiness/
>
>--
>A beautiful song from Tibet
>I miss Dalai Lama
>http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
>
>Following Tamding Tso's self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans
>have set themselves on fire inside Tibet, taking the toll to 72,
>since the wave of fiery protests began in 2009.
>
>The Letter:
>http://www.phayul.com/images/news/articles/121113024302N5.jpg
>
>http://tinyurl.com/bc24jja
>
>--
>A beautiful song from Tibet
>I miss Dalai Lama
>http://youtu.be/_zo3kYvJr38
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entire life - not even so much as having raised a finger at her by his
own admission - and those whom she interacted with have all been
taught the wrong ideas about living and values in general. It is
Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a bunch of American
Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and monasteries are
heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right now, he would have
to find another way to get the money to feed those consuming but not
producing monks and monasteries?
his won't also be angry and violent with him in the end if the Chinese
are out of the picture?
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