What is symbolic racism, modern racism or aversive racism?
Huo Xin Jao
Modern-Day Racism Masks Its Ugly Head
Published in the Los Angeles Times, September 11, 2000, Page B7
By HALFORD H. FAIRCHILD
There are those who assert that racism is obsolete and not a
contemporary problem. But racism is a current event; only its expression
is more disguised and subtle. And it requires intervention.
We can best understand the contemporary reality of racism by
delving into its past. In antiquity, knowledge of racial differentiation
was not necessarily accompanied by dehumanizing sentiments; indeed, the
ancient Greeks and Romans looked upon the ancient Ethiopians with
respect and romanticism. The ancient Egyptians' awareness of racial
variation did not carry with it the dehumanization of those who were
superficially different.
The idea of race took on the patina of a scientific enterprise
primarily in the early to mid-1800s, as part of what is largely known as
the European Enlightenment. Scientists at that time, particularly in
biology and botany, were earnest in classifying the diversity of life on
Earth, and part of this classification included the human species.
Perhaps because of ethnocentrism and cultural chauvinism, the
classification of human beings included a rank ordering with Europeans
at the top of the scale and Africans at the bottom.
The institutionalization of slavery within the Americas required
an intellectual justification for the mistreatment of millions of
African men, women and children. Muslims had mirrored this process of
intellectually justifying enslavement in the earlier enslavement of East
Africans. Slavery required racism and was the proximate cause of it.
Racism became unique in the United States largely because of the
efforts to abolish slavery. These efforts intensified the efforts of
slavery's apologists to justify their "peculiar institution." Thus if we
can say that contemporary racism is a product of American slavery, then
we must also accept the premise that American slavery demonstrates other
consequences that are as alive and well today as is racism.
Racism in contemporary world affairs is disguised, and it is what
some refer to as symbolic racism, modern racism or aversive racism.
These eschew the old-fashioned, redneck ideology of white supremacy and
black inferiority and instead espouse support for the ideals of equality
in human affairs. Yet these ideals of equality are discordant with the
preference for the status quo of white privilege.
Thus aversive racism is manifested in opposition to programs and
policies that seek to undo white privilege or provide advantages to
blacks on the basis of historical discrimination. Interestingly,
contemporary research in social psychology demonstrates that the
aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
racism is an unconscious process.
In a series of interesting experiments, some in the laboratory and
some in real-world settings, social psychologists have illustrated the
presence of unconscious or aversive racism in a number of contexts. The
effects of aversive racism are manifold and affect the quality of life
of Africans and African Americans both physically and psychologically.
Thus we see the ravages of racism at work in the appalling statistics of
HIV/AIDS in Africa and among African Americans. We see the
life-and-death consequences of old-fashioned and modern racism in the
rates of infant mortality among Africans and African Americans as well
as their much higher rates of preventable deaths from hypertension,
heart disease, cancer and violence.
The current effects of racism have led to a widening of the
economic gulf between white Americans and black Americans. Although the
proportions of African Americans in the middle and upper classes have
increased, so too has the proportion of African American children reared
in poverty. The presence of African Americans in the higher echelons of
corporate America, government and the military is about one-tenth of
what one would expect given a system of true equal opportunity.
To solve these problems of structured inequality, we must first
acknowledge the reality of racism in contemporary world affairs. We can
no longer afford to hide from this reality. We must make conscious
unconscious racism. Then we must develop and propagate social and
institutional norms and values that reject racism--conscious and
unconscious--and advance true equal opportunity.
Halford H. Fairchild Is a Professor of Psychology and Black Studies at
Pitzer
College. E-mail: Hfair...@pitzer.edu
Author's comment: This paper was written as an example of student on
how to integrate a set of readings. It was very fortunate that it was
published as now my students have more reason to believe that I know
what I'm talking about!
I received a number of e-mails, both pro- and con. To read these
e-mails, and my responses to them, click here: RacismE-mails.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> http://pzacad.pitzer.edu/~hfairchi/courses/Fall2000Papers/ModernRacism.htm
> Modern-Day Racism Masks Its Ugly Head
> Published in the Los Angeles Times, September 11, 2000, Page B7
>
think?
Someone recently posted excerpts from a US Department of State report on
Human Trafficking -- a very interesting and worthwhile read.
See http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
The report rates countries' efforts to fight human trafficking. Among
the best 25 countries are 17 from Europe and North America.
What heading do you think the poster chose for the article?
I know it's hard to believe anyone could be so dishonest, but the
heading given was:
"SEX TRAFFICING (SIC) SUPPORTED BY EUROPE AND N. AMERICA"
I leave it to the readers -- does this look like an example of modern
day racism?
Verno
--
Thanks to Jao for that example.
Huo Xin Jao
Vernon North wrote:
> K-K-K-Kaz the InKapable has been unable to find a single bigoted post
out of the thousands I have posted to soc.culture.japan.
> Verno
Are you stating you have posted thousands of bigoted posts to
soc.culture.japan and Kaz been unable to find one?
Your true motives are showing Vernon. Who are you trying protect Verno?
Are you going to lie again and claim that you have only posted thousands
of "nice" messages to soc.culture.japan and that's why Kaz can't find a
single bigoted post? If that was the case, then you should of phrased
your wording differently. I think it was a slip.
I think you are very good at deception and misleading the readers. I
think you accidentally let your guard down and you almost exposed your
hidden agenda. Your posts don't mean much when read separately, but
their is a common theme that runs through all of them.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
>
> Your true motives are showing Vernon. Who are you trying protect Verno?
>
racist moron.
And it's working . . .
Verno
Huo Xin Jao
to be exposed is you.
George
"Huo Xin Jao" <huo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ehu3l3$k0r$2...@agate.berkeley.edu...
> Nope. But this does:
> Vernon North wrote:
> > K-K-K-Kaz the InKapable has been unable to find a single bigoted post
> out of the thousands I have posted to soc.culture.japan.
> > Verno
>
> Are you stating you have posted thousands of bigoted posts to
> soc.culture.japan and Kaz been unable to find one?
>
> Your true motives are showing Vernon. Who are you trying protect Verno?
>
> Are you going to lie again and claim that you have only posted thousands
> of "nice" messages to soc.culture.japan and that's why Kaz can't find a
> single bigoted post? If that was the case, then you should of phrased
> your wording differently. I think it was a slip.
>
> I think you are very good at deception and misleading the readers. I
> think you accidentally let your guard down and you almost exposed your
> hidden agenda. Your posts don't mean much when read separately, but
> their is a common theme that runs through all of them.
http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQMain.html#VIweirdthings
Why People Believe Weird Things
17. Ad Hominem and Tu Quoque
Literally "to the man" and "you also," these fallacies redirect the focus
from thinking about the idea to thinking about the person holding the idea.
The goal of an ad hominem attack is to discredit the claimant in hopes that
it will discredit the claim. Calling someone an atheist, a communist, a
child abuser, or a neo-Nazi does not in any way disprove that person's
statement. it might be helpful to know whether someone is of a particular
religion or holds a particular ideology, in case this has in some way
biased the research, but refuting claims bust be done directly, not
indirectly. If Holocaust deniers, for example, are neo-Nazis or
anti-Semites, this would certainly guide their choice of which historical
events to emphasize or ignore. But if they are making the claim, for
example, that Hitler did not have a master plan for the extermination of
European Jewry, the response "Oh, he is saying that because he is a
neo-Nazi" does not refute the argument. Whether Hitler had a master plan or
not is a question that can be settled historically. Similarly for tu
quoque. If someone accuses you of cheating on your taxes, the answer "Well,
so do you" is no proof one way or the other.
George
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
Why is Bottom-posting better than Top-posting
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
geo...@yourservice.com says...
the other guy just said"?
;-)
Verno
George
"Vernon North" <Vernon No...@oyama.bc.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fac40151...@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
Umm, that would be a reason why top posting, for some, is better than
bottom posting.
George
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> Sorry Vernon. No matter how hard you try the only person that is going
> to be exposed is you.
>
There are two possibilities:
1) you're too dumb.
2) you're lying . . . . again!
BWAAHAHAAHAHAAHAA!
Verno
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
demonstrates that the
aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
racism is an unconscious process."
this is most of the posters from western side is practising. They
passively support the active racists by turning to other side and
pretend they didn't read their posts coming from their contemporaries.
When Asian posters post in retaliation, they give their hyenas laugh
and ridicule as a way of showing they are modern day educated people
against racism. This is a laugh and when they keep asking for proof of
their wrong doings.
This report clearly show that racism still exists in Western countries
and being encourage there by the vast majority of their populations
ardeedee
Racism also exists clearly in Asian countries - like Chinese against Indians
against Malays and Malays against Chinese etc.
.
<georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
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North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> " Interestingly, contemporary research in social psychology
> demonstrates that the
> aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
> racism is an unconscious process."
>
> this is most of the posters from western side is practising. They
> passively support the active racists by turning to other side and
> pretend they didn't read their posts coming from their contemporaries.
> When Asian posters post in retaliation, they give their hyenas laugh
> and ridicule as a way of showing they are modern day educated people
> against racism. This is a laugh and when they keep asking for proof of
> their wrong doings.
I'll tell you something even funnier -- those who take smug comfort in
such ideas when they can't find any evidence to support their claims
that others are racists. You *know* it's true -- you just can't find
any credible examples.
>
> This report clearly show that racism still exists in Western countries
> and being encourage there by the vast majority of their populations
What are you droning on about? You perpetuate racism here every day.
Shall I drag out a few examples from your posts, or are you willing to
concede how easy that would be?
Verno
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Alethias posts. There are plenty of your against Asian posters.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
then to ignore a group of people whom they associate with poverty
rather than their because of their race
ardeedee
yah yah yah - keep bullshitting yourself - you will believe it eventually.
<georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
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North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> How do you define racism ? Show us your ridicule of Freddie and
> Alethias posts. There are plenty of your against Asian posters.
Been there, done that -- how quickly you forget.
And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
post racist comments all the time!
BEGIN SAMPLE OF SIMPLE GEORGE'S RACIST POSTS
=====================================================
"Is it because he
chink chink and chink chink there
everywhere he goes he chink chink chink?
bloody chinky he is "
-------
"Ahem, half breed kimchee hate chinks. "
"Ahem, Chink hates Jappy. "
-------
"Bastard, look at the subject before you open you fucking mouth here.
Get lost you fucking bastard kimchee. what you have written is pure
garbage not related to this topic.
=====================================================
Googling that sample took less than 5 minutes. If you like, I can
Google up a lot more.
Verno
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <1162195980.9...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > How do you define racism ? Show us your ridicule of Freddie and
> > Alethias posts. There are plenty of your against Asian posters.
>
> Been there, done that -- how quickly you forget.
you haven't answer the question here moron. How did you define racism,
racist.
>
> And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
> post racist comments all the time!
How did I do that? Now you have to moral authority to decide what can
be done or can't is it?
Oh man, you can do better than that. Please quote the link here moron,
that's your sepciality here racist.
>
> BEGIN SAMPLE OF SIMPLE GEORGE'S RACIST POSTS
> =====================================================
> "Is it because he
> chink chink and chink chink there
> everywhere he goes he chink chink chink?
> bloody chinky he is "
> -------
>
> "Ahem, half breed kimchee hate chinks. "
> "Ahem, Chink hates Jappy. "
> -------
>
> "Bastard, look at the subject before you open you fucking mouth here.
> Get lost you fucking bastard kimchee. what you have written is pure
> garbage not related to this topic.
> =====================================================
>
> Googling that sample took less than 5 minutes. If you like, I can
> Google up a lot more.
>
Verno is a fucking bastard racist.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
posts here. Like you said, I can find your hyenas to all asian posters
in less than 5 minutes. How many hyenas did you gave to Western posters
bastard racist?
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > In article <1162195980.9...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> > georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > > How do you define racism ? Show us your ridicule of Freddie and
> > > Alethias posts. There are plenty of your against Asian posters.
> >
> > Been there, done that -- how quickly you forget.
>
> you haven't answer the question here moron. How did you define racism,
> racist.
Been there, done that. If you're too dumb to remember what I posted a
week or two ago, and are incapable of using Google, don't expect me to
constantly remind you. Learn to Google. I've already provided you with
written instructions . . . or did you forget that, too?
>
>
> >
> > And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
> > post racist comments all the time!
>
> How did I do that? Now you have to moral authority to decide what can
> be done or can't is it?
>
Are you saying you didn't object to racist posts? Please deny it
directly.
>
> Oh man, you can do better than that. Please quote the link here moron,
> that's your sepciality here racist.
I will . . . when you DENY you posted what is in the sample.
Go ahead -- deny you posted these samples and I will post the links.
>
>
> >
> > BEGIN SAMPLE OF SIMPLE GEORGE'S RACIST POSTS
> > =====================================================
> > "Is it because he
> > chink chink and chink chink there
> > everywhere he goes he chink chink chink?
> > bloody chinky he is "
> > -------
> >
> > "Ahem, half breed kimchee hate chinks. "
> > "Ahem, Chink hates Jappy. "
> > -------
> >
> > "Bastard, look at the subject before you open you fucking mouth here.
> > Get lost you fucking bastard kimchee. what you have written is pure
> > garbage not related to this topic.
> > =====================================================
> >
> > Googling that sample took less than 5 minutes. If you like, I can
> > Google up a lot more.
> >
>
> Verno is a fucking bastard racist.
. . . . is that why you can't find any racists posts written by me?
Put up or shut up, Simple George.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> posts here.
I have done so -- within the past two weeks, replying to YOU.
Learn to Google. I'm not your babysitter, simple George.
> Like you said, I can find your hyenas to all asian posters
> in less than 5 minutes. How many hyenas did you gave to Western posters
> bastard racist?
Find a racist post, moron, not a post insulting an individual for their
behaviour. Do you understand the difference, Simple George?
George
> demonstrates that the
> aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
> racism is an unconscious process."
>
> this is most of the posters from western side is practising. They
> passively support the active racists by turning to other side and
> pretend they didn't read their posts coming from their contemporaries.
> When Asian posters post in retaliation, they give their hyenas laugh
> and ridicule as a way of showing they are modern day educated people
> against racism. This is a laugh and when they keep asking for proof of
> their wrong doings.
>
> This report clearly show that racism still exists in Western countries
> and being encourage there by the vast majority of their populations
Umm, most Asian countries are still predominantly - Asian/mongoloid stock.
So what form of racism are they practicing?
George
Huo Xin Jao
Huo Xin Jao
lechergod
where they are fucked deep, drag to imaginative matters to make
quarrels.
only Vernon is too foolish to be dragged around.
go back to PRC mainland to earn your living.
lechergod
where they are fucked deep, drag to imaginative matters to make
quarrels.
only Vernon is too foolish to be dragged around.
go back to PRC mainland to earn your living.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
>
> Been there, done that. If you're too dumb to remember what I posted a
> week or two ago, and are incapable of using Google, don't expect me to
> constantly remind you. Learn to Google. I've already provided you with
> written instructions . . . or did you forget that, too?
No you have not answer my question moron. Stop playing with the words
racist bastard.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
> > > post racist comments all the time!
> >
> > How did I do that? Now you have to moral authority to decide what can
> > be done or can't is it?
> >
> Are you saying you didn't object to racist posts? Please deny it
> directly.
Stop playing with the words here moron. Yuo answer my question here
first. You are the authority to decide what can be done here is it?
> >
> > Oh man, you can do better than that. Please quote the link here moron,
> > that's your sepciality here racist.
>
> I will . . . when you DENY you posted what is in the sample.
>
> Go ahead -- deny you posted these samples and I will post the links.
Stop playing with the words here moron. Answer my questions first
moron.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <1162261589....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> > posts here.
>
> I have done so -- within the past two weeks, replying to YOU.
>
> Learn to Google. I'm not your babysitter, simple George.
Stop playing with the words here. Just answer my question here racist
bastard cunt.
>
> > Like you said, I can find your hyenas to all asian posters
> > in less than 5 minutes. How many hyenas did you gave to Western posters
> > bastard racist?
>
> Find a racist post, moron, not a post insulting an individual for their
> behaviour. Do you understand the difference, Simple George?
Stop playing eith the words here. Just answer my question you stupid
bastard racist cunt.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
thats the exact thinking of the white moronic racist bitch.
Huo Xin Jao
the great deceiver Verno.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> >
> > Been there, done that. If you're too dumb to remember what I posted a
> > week or two ago, and are incapable of using Google, don't expect me to
> > constantly remind you. Learn to Google. I've already provided you with
> > written instructions . . . or did you forget that, too?
>
> No you have not answer my question moron. Stop playing with the words
> racist bastard.
What will you give me if I prove I already have? Make it worth my
effort. I don't work for free unless it's for a charity I support, and
you're not on the list.
>
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
> > > > post racist comments all the time!
> > >
> > > How did I do that? Now you have to moral authority to decide what can
> > > be done or can't is it?
> > >
> > Are you saying you didn't object to racist posts? Please deny it
> > directly.
>
>
> Stop playing with the words here moron. Yuo answer my question here
> first. You are the authority to decide what can be done here is it?
I know what I've posted. You could know, too, if only you could use
Google. Learn how. It's not my job to Google for you.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > Oh man, you can do better than that. Please quote the link here moron,
> > > that's your sepciality here racist.
> >
> > I will . . . when you DENY you posted what is in the sample.
> >
> > Go ahead -- deny you posted these samples and I will post the links.
>
>
> Stop playing with the words here moron. Answer my questions first
> moron.
Is THAT your denial? BWWAHAHAAHAHAAHAAA!
> > > >
> > > > BEGIN SAMPLE OF SIMPLE GEORGE'S RACIST POSTS
> > > > =====================================================
> > > > "Is it because he
> > > > chink chink and chink chink there
> > > > everywhere he goes he chink chink chink?
> > > > bloody chinky he is "
> > > > -------
> > > >
> > > > "Ahem, half breed kimchee hate chinks. "
> > > > "Ahem, Chink hates Jappy. "
> > > > -------
> > > >
> > > > "Bastard, look at the subject before you open you fucking mouth here.
> > > > Get lost you fucking bastard kimchee. what you have written is pure
> > > > garbage not related to this topic.
> > > > =====================================================
> > > >
Did you write those posts or not?
Verno
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > In article <1162261589....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > > Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> > > posts here.
> >
> > I have done so -- within the past two weeks, replying to YOU.
> >
> > Learn to Google. I'm not your babysitter, simple George.
>
>
> Stop playing with the words here. Just answer my question here racist
> bastard cunt.
I already have. Learn to Google.
Verno
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <1162339081.2...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> >
> > Vernon North wrote:
> > >
> > > Been there, done that. If you're too dumb to remember what I posted a
> > > week or two ago, and are incapable of using Google, don't expect me to
> > > constantly remind you. Learn to Google. I've already provided you with
> > > written instructions . . . or did you forget that, too?
> >
> > No you have not answer my question moron. Stop playing with the words
> > racist bastard.
>
> What will you give me if I prove I already have? Make it worth my
> effort. I don't work for free unless it's for a charity I support, and
> you're not on the list.
see the topic here and answer accordingly to it moron.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <1162339213.9...@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> >
> > Vernon North wrote:
> > > In article <1162261589....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > > > Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> > > > posts here.
> > >
> > > I have done so -- within the past two weeks, replying to YOU.
> > >
> > > Learn to Google. I'm not your babysitter, simple George.
> >
> >
> > Stop playing with the words here. Just answer my question here racist
> > bastard cunt.
>
> I already have. Learn to Google.
>
> Verno
that's your point here. You are racist and George just confirm that you
are a fucking bastard racist bitch.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
Simple George.
Verno
Huo Xin Jao
mislead the readers by insulting your intelligence?
lechergod
nothing but dirty vagina oil bottle 汉奸 !!!!!!!
"Huo Xin Jao" <huo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> George you are wonderful and enlightened. You have not been fooled by
> the great deceiver Verno.
>
Jao!
I know, I know -- your post was a subtle ploy to take credit for
deceiving Simple George, but you can take credit! Your genius as a liar
and deceiver IS recognized! I mean, who would have thought to simply
DENY obvious proof that you've lied? Why, no one! And if you deny-
deny-deny, some WILL be fooled! It's amazing, isn't it?
Just between us, Jao, do you feel respect for your sycophants? Do you
like them? Or do you secretly despise them? I'm really interested in
what makes you tick.
What's so amazing about you is your flat-out denials when you're so
obviously caught. And you deny as though you REALLY BELIEVE every word
you've typed! Now THAT is amazing -- like the pathological liar on SNL!
I'll bet you loved that character!
For instance, see how well you handled this one. It's a masterpiece of
denial.
==========================
JAO:
"There is nothing wrong with my subject line:EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE
PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm"
VERNO:
"There is. The article at your link is about people smuggling, not the
global sex trade. You refuse to address that criticism because you
can't.
Further, the article rates countries on their efforts to combat human
trafficking, and rates European and North American countries as 17 of
THE 25 BEST."
==========================
In the face of overwhelming evidence, you actually concluded that the
countries BEST AT COMBATING PEOPLE SMUGGLING are THE PRIMARY SUPPORTERS
OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE!
Now THAT was a BOLD MOVE! Totally illogical, but they way you presented
it fooled Simple George, Kaz, Supertech and now "LiPeng".
I gotta hand it to you -- it would never have occurred to me that anyone
would believe it! But you fooled them!
Here's another brilliant denial:
==========================
JAO:
"The articles states quote: "Canada is primarily a destination and
transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of sexual
exploitation from China, South Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the
Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and Eastern Europe."
"Since Canada is part of the N.America continent as well as many other
countries listed there. I don't know about your educational background,
but I was taught that Canada is a big country in N.America."
VERNO:
"According to the article which you selectively quoted, Canada is one of
the BEST in the world at combating human smuggling. You refuse to
address that criticism because you can't."
"Equating that with your headline is like saying "thieves target
expensive homes for theft because the wealthy are the primary supporters
of theft". You refuse to address that criticism because you can't."
JAO:
"So there is nothing incorrect in my subject line."
==============================
Well done! Are you proud of that one? I'll bet you
are! It is so obviously illogical, yet you made it stick for you
sycophants! Amazing!
Well, you're on a roll now, Jao, so don't change your tactics! Stick
with success! You've fooled your sycophants -- so don't go admitting
you made any mistakes! ;-)
Verno
Huo Xin Jao
show...
George, LiPeng, RAK, Rodo, etc.. can see it as well as many, many,
others in these newsgroups.
Your existence in these newsgroups is controversial.
YOU DO NOT post any information or web links with any news relating to
the newsgroups.
YOU DO NOT provide any topics of conversation in these newsgroups.
My question therefore is, "What are you doing here in these newsgroups?"
When somebody posts news or web links with information which would place
blame on a 'certain' racial group, that is the ONLY time you jump in and
try to divert the reader from the subject matter to something else.
I call this 'trolling'.
My second question therefore is, "why are you trolling?"
The only reason I can surmise is that you may be an aversive racist
trying to protect a certain racial group from being responsible for
creating and supporting atrocities around the world.
Proof that Vernon is the GREAT DECEIVER
----------------------------------------
None of my subject tiles are falsified or misleading. The readers know
that you are illogical and deceiving. Your arguments are ridiculous and
hold no validity.
Vernon North wrote:
> You posted excerpts from a US Department of State report on
> Human Trafficking -- a very interesting and worthwhile read.
> See http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
> What heading did you give it?
> "SEX TRAFFICING (SIC) SUPPORTED BY EUROPE AND N. AMERICA"
There is NOTHING WRONG with my subject line:
EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
Since Canada is part of the N.America continent as well as many other
countries listed in that article. I don't know about your educational
background, but I was taught that Canada is a big country in N.America.
THE ARTICLE SPECIFICALLY STATES - QUOTE: "Canada is primarily a
destination and transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of
sexual exploitation from China, South Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the
Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and Eastern Europe. "
There is nothing incorrect in my subject line. Prove to me that the
article doesn't state what I quoted.
Europe and N.America primary supporters of global sex trade
-----------------------------------------------------
Topic:A Thai organization called FACE, the coalition to Fight Against
Child Exploitation, claimed that 5,000 foreigners come to Thailand each
year to have sex with children. The organization described the AVERAGE
SEX TOURIST as a middle-aged WHITE male from either EUROPE or NORTH
AMERICA who often goes online to find the "best deals." One particular
Web site promised "nights of sex with two young Thai girls for the price
of a tank of gas." UNICEF estimates the number of Thai children involved
in prostitution to be between 60,000 and 200,000, though the
organization says the exact number is difficult to track.
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2325416&page=1
Topic: Canada is primarily a destination and transit country for women
trafficked for the purposes of sexual exploitation from China, South
Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and
Eastern Europe. To a lesser extent, men, women and children are
trafficked for forced labor, and Canadian citizens are trafficked
internally for the sex trade. Most transiting victims are bound for the
U.S. In a recent criminal intelligence assessment, the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) estimates that 800 persons are trafficked into
Canada annually and that an additional 1,500-2,200 persons are
trafficked through Canada into the U.S. Some observers believe these
numbers significantly understate the problem.
Source: http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
Topic: SEX TRAFFICKING - San Francisco Is A Major Center
For International Crime Networks That Smuggle And Enslave
The most often cited numbers come from the U.S. State Department, which
estimates that 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked for forced labor
and sex worldwide each year -- and that 80 percent are women and girls.
Most trafficked females, the department says, are exploited in
commercial sex outlets.
Source:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL
Topic: Capitalist globalization today involves an unprecedented
"commodification" of human beings. In the last 30 years, the rapidly
growing sex trade has been massively "industrialized" worldwide (Barry ;
Jeffreys). This process of industrialization, in both its legal and its
illegal forms, generates profits amounting to billions of dollars (1).
It has created a market of sexual exchanges in which millions of women
and children have been converted into sexual commodities. The sex
industry, previously considered marginal, has come to occupy a strategic
and central position in the development of international capitalism. For
this reason it is increasingly taking on the guise of an ordinary sector
of the economy. This particular aspect of globalization involves an
entire range of issues crucial to understanding the world we live in.
These include such processes as economic exploitation, sexual
oppression, capital accumulation, international migration, and unequal
development and such related conditions as racism and poverty.
Source: http://sisyphe.org/article.php3?id_article=965
Topic: Regan Ralph, the executive director of the women's rights
division of the United States-based Human Rights Watch (HRW), has
exposed its prevalence in the United States. In August 1999, for
instance, a trafficking ring was broken up in the southern state of
Georgia that transported up to 1,000 women from several Asian countries
into the United States and '(forced) them to work in brothels across the
country'. Similar evidence was presented in late February at a public
hearing before the European Parliament. Close to 500,000 women are
smuggled into Western Europe every year, experts said. According to
researchers, nearly 60% of the women forced into the sex industry in
some Western European countries are controlled by Russian and Albanian
criminal networks.
Source: http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/millions.htm
Topic: A force of 400 federal and local law officers raided 11
suspected brothels and arrested 27 suspects in what was described as a
major Bay Area sex trafficking operation that preyed on Korean women
brought into the country illegally, authorities said Friday.
Source:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/02/MNGDLDIDVD1.DTL
Topic: Tour agencies in industrialized countries, especially Japan,
Australia, Europe, North America, and recently, Korea, organize
tours to major sex industry centers for men explicitly for sexual
activity. Cities and resort areas specialize in particular types
of sex or certain nationalities of men. For example, a city in
northern Thailand is a noted homosexual center. Various areas in
Bangkok are set up to serve men from different countries. Patpong
is the famous area for Western tourists. Several island resorts in
Thailand are specifically for pedophiles, and their remote nature
makes them that much more difficult to be found in order to protest
their acts.
Source: http://www.american.edu/TED/myansex.htm
Topic: U.S. SOLDIERS BRING CHINESE PROSTITUTES TO KABUL
According to a CNN broadcast, the brothels in Kabul are booming. The
opium business is also booming throughout Afghanistan. The U.S.
military brought prostitution, gambling, and drugs to Saigon. Many
local puppet South Vietnamese officials were involved in the various
vice outlets in South Vietnam, prior to North Vietnamese Liberation.
http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/message.jspa?messageID=21748
http://www.thefullmonte.com/kabul.htm
http://www.cursor.org/stories/emptyspace2.html
----------------------------
The Chinese Brothel Scene
"Have you eaten? Do you like fried dim sum? I know a Chinese brothel
that serves great dim sum, wanna come?"
http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/06-05/the-triplegem-afghan-expedition-iv-the-chinese-brothel-scene-kabul-afghanistan.html
-----------------------------
From Armytimes.com
At a time when the U.S. State Department and the United Nations labor to
combat the international trafficking in women, the U.S. military
supports a flourishing trade in sex slaves in South Korea.
At least 5,000 foreign women have been trafficked into South Korea since
the mid-1990s to work as “entertainers” in clubs near U.S. bases, but
the actual total “may be much higher,” according to a new report. They
work long hours for low pay, are virtual prisoners of club managers and
frequently are forced to have paid sex with U.S. military customers.
“Women trafficked into the Korean entertainment industry endure working
conditions that clearly exploit them,” the IOM report stated. “Some of
these women are brought to South Korea to provide sexual services and
are required to do so sometimes from the very first day they arrive in
South Korea.”
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-370588.php
-------------
A Pentagon team is spending two weeks in South Korea investigating a
congressman’s charges that the U.S. command there knew foreign women had
been illegally trafficked into clubs that serve its troops, that some of
the women had been forced into prostitution and that its courtesy
patrols served to protect the illegal practice.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-370593.php
--------------------------------
'America will never leave Iraq', US soldier says
Prostitution, he tells me, once illegal before the American occupation,
is now rife in Iraq, and hundreds of girls throughout the country are
being sold into the seedy world of brothels and sex slavery.
"For one dollar you can get a prostitute in Iraq for one hour," Patrick
says."For $10 you can get a room, wash her up and do the business," he adds.
http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=8755
------------------------------------
American soldier shoots Iraqi after sex
A National Guardsman who pleaded guilty to killing a 17-year-old Iraqi
soldier said he shot the young man after claiming they had consensual
sex in a guard tower, a newspaper reported Saturday, citing
court-martial records.At about 10:30 p.m., Merida shot the teen 11 times
with his carbine. Merida first told investigators the teen demanded
money at gunpoint. Later, he said he killed the boy because he forced
him to have sex.
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2004/12/21/4
----------------------------------------
Topic: Regan Ralph, the executive director of the women's rights
division of the United States-based Human Rights Watch (HRW), has
exposed its prevalence in the United States. In August 1999, for
instance, a trafficking ring was broken up in the southern state of
Georgia that transported up to 1,000 women from several Asian countries
into the United States and '(forced) them to work in brothels across the
country'. Similar evidence was presented in late February at a public
hearing before the European Parliament. Close to 500,000 women are
smuggled into Western Europe every year, experts said. According to
researchers, nearly 60% of the women forced into the sex industry in
some Western European countries are controlled by Russian and Albanian
criminal networks.
Source: http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/millions.htm
------------------------------
Topic: A force of 400 federal and local law officers raided 11
suspected brothels and arrested 27 suspects in what was described as a
major Bay Area sex trafficking operation that preyed on Korean women
brought into the country illegally, authorities said Friday.
Source:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/07/02/MNGDLDIDVD1.DTL
lechergod
you lie about your name and about links!
you manipulate everything and lie to netters, you oil bottle dirty
vagina troll!
no one answers your troll post because no one reads your post.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> Poor Verno, you can deceive people only so much before your true colors
> show...
>
> George, LiPeng, RAK, Rodo, etc.. can see it as well as many, many,
> others in these newsgroups.
Yes, you've certainly got all the intellectual heavyweights on your
side! ;-)
But come on, Jao. Only you and I are reading this now. You don't need
to pretend. Take credit for your brilliance.
>
> Your existence in these newsgroups is controversial.
>
> YOU DO NOT post any information or web links with any news relating to
> the newsgroups.
>
> YOU DO NOT provide any topics of conversation in these newsgroups.
>
> My question therefore is, "What are you doing here in these newsgroups?"
Well, I started out wanting to show people that you were lying and
deceiving them. But you were so good at it that I've changed my aim.
Now, I want everyone to recognize your brilliance as a deceiver! You're
the best! And so bold! Who else will deny the obvious, and act as
though they believe every word of their denials? Why, only you!
Here's what I mean by "brilliance".
IF there's anyone else left reading this -- pay attention. I'm going to
show you Jao's genius at work!
>
> Proof that Vernon is the GREAT DECEIVER
> ----------------------------------------
> None of my subject tiles are falsified or misleading. The readers know
> that you are illogical and deceiving. Your arguments are ridiculous and
> hold no validity.
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > You posted excerpts from a US Department of State report on
> > Human Trafficking -- a very interesting and worthwhile read.
> > See http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
> > What heading did you give it?
> > "SEX TRAFFICING (SIC) SUPPORTED BY EUROPE AND N. AMERICA"
>
> There is NOTHING WRONG with my subject line:
> EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
> from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
See readers? Look at the boldness! A flat-out denial, when Jao knows
the website ISN'T about the global sex trade, and that it says the
OPPOSITE of his headline.
Now, who but Jao would have the brilliance and daring to take that risk?
Why, nobody! But JAO did it! That was a masterful move! I'm humbled
by his overwhelming brilliance!
But that's just the beginning -- there's even MORE!
>
> Since Canada is part of the N.America continent as well as many other
> countries listed in that article. I don't know about your educational
> background, but I was taught that Canada is a big country in N.America.
>
> THE ARTICLE SPECIFICALLY STATES - QUOTE: "Canada is primarily a
> destination and transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of
> sexual exploitation from China, South Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the
> Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and Eastern Europe. "
WOW! Look at that! He found a tiny fragment in the article that could
make it look like his headline! AMAZING, especially for those who
actually read the article! Again, another incredibly bold stroke! And
he pretended it is representative of the site's content! Bold!!
But how did he know so few people would read the article to see if it
supported his conclusion?
I guess he's been lying and misleading for so long that he KNOWS people
will simply think his headlines are accurate! Wow! Again, I'm in awe!
Now, watch this next move:
>
> There is nothing incorrect in my subject line. Prove to me that the
> article doesn't state what I quoted.
It's called a "non-denial denial". He didn't ask for proof that his
CONCLUSION was wrong -- he simply asks for proof that his QUOTE was
wrong. See? Brilliant, wasn't it? When you prove he misled people
with his headline, he STILL HAS A FALL BACK POSITION -- he can still
claim it was an "HONEST MISTAKE"! Wow! Brilliant!
And a little humourous too, thinking of Jao doing anything "honest", but
that's his little joke on us!
For the record, see how poorly I posed my proof of his deception.
==========================
JAO:
"There is nothing wrong with my subject line:EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE
PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm"
VERNO:
"There is. The article at your link is about people smuggling, not the
global sex trade. You refuse to address that criticism because you
can't.
Further, the article rates countries on their efforts to combat human
trafficking, and rates European and North American countries as 17 of
THE 25 BEST."
==========================
In the face of overwhelming evidence, Jao actually concluded that the
Well done! Jao has every reason to be proud! He has displayed
deception at its very best! Jao, you're a master. Stop being so modest!
Verno
Huo Xin Jao
I invite all readers to see what kind of supporters Vernon has.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
is that the new cunt vocabulary there huh? Just answer the question
moron.
Huo Xin Jao
trying to tell everyone - Vernon North is the GREAT DECEIVER!
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> I think you will never get a straight answer out of Vernon. Like I was
> trying to tell everyone - Vernon North is the GREAT DECEIVER!
Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
the wolves!
Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
asking me to post again? I know you can do it -- after all, you ARE the
Diabolical Dr. Huo!
Verno
Huo Xin Jao
> Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> the wolves!
> Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> Diabolical Dr. Huo!
I don't have any flock to tend. I just appreciate their moral support
and ability to see through your lies and deceptions. I don't tell
George how to compose his replies to you. I don't tell him the words he
chooses to communicate with you. I'm sure he is using vocabulary that
you can understand easily. George knows how to use Google. He just
wants YOU to answer his questions rather than avoid them.
Vernon North wrote:
> K-K-K-Kaz the InKapable has been unable to find a single bigoted
> post out of the thousands I have posted to soc.culture.japan.
> Verno
Are you going to lie again and claim that you have only posted thousands
of "nice" messages to soc.culture.japan and that's why Kaz can't find a
single bigoted post? If that was the case, then you should of phrased
your wording differently.
The readers are free to choose who to believe or not to believe. It is
their choice. I, unlike you, do not dictate morality to them. They
know the truth when I present it to them and they can come up with their
own conclusions.
I don't have to prove anything to the readers. The web links that I
provide contain all the information they need to come up with their own
conclusions. I don't need to worry about them because they are far more
intelligent than you judge them for.
Vernon North wrote:
> When challenged, he follows a consistent pattern:
> 1) At first, he claims he posts only links and articles about which
> readers can make up their own minds.
> You posted excerpts from a US Department of State report on
> Human Trafficking -- a very interesting and worthwhile read.
> See http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
> What heading did you give it?
> "SEX TRAFFICING (SIC) SUPPORTED BY EUROPE AND N. AMERICA"
There is nothing wrong with my subject line:
EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
since Canada is part of the N.America continent as well as many other
countries listed there. I don't know about your educational background,
but I was taught that Canada is a big country in N.America.
The articles states quote: "Canada is primarily a destination and
transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of sexual
exploitation from China, South Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the
Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and Eastern Europe. "
So there is nothing incorrect in my subject line.
> 2) When this is shown to be false, he denies even obvious proof.
Want more proof? See below.
> 3) When challenged on his blatant lies, he attacks his challengers
> with personal smears.
The proof is contained in the following FAKE "public service warning to
readers" that you created to incite a personal smear campaign against
me. Who is deflecting attention away from the subject of discussion?
Vernon North wrote:
----------------------------------
> PUBLIC SERVICE WARNING TO READERS
> The previous poster (who may be posting as "Jao", "Samuel Clayton",
> "Huo Xin Jao" and possibly others) has been caught falsifying content
> and posting outright lies about some of the links and articles he
> posts.
> When challenged, he follows a consistent pattern of denials, lies and
> personal smears to avoid answering specific criticisms and to deflect
> attention away from the truth.
> 4) When cornered, he refuses to respond to specific examples of his
lies, and steps up his campaign of lies and personal smears to
deflect attention away from his lies.
I ask Vernon, which of the links and articles that I have presented
contain lies? Vernon does not answer. Do you know why? Because NONE of
the links and articles contain lies.
I ask Vernon to specifically state which links and articles that I have
presented contain false content? Vernon does not answer. Do you know
why? Because NONE of the links and articles contain false content.
Vernon despartately comes up with this silly arguments that the subject
line contains false content regarding the links. He DIRECTLY lies and
states that I avoid answering specific criticisms and yet look at the
following that I have posted numerous times in response to HIS questions:
Proof that Vernon is the GREAT DECEIVER
----------------------------------------
None of my subject tiles are falsified or misleading. The readers know
that you (Vernon) are illogical and deceiving. Your arguments are
ridiculous and hold no validity.
Vernon North wrote:
> You posted excerpts from a US Department of State report on
> Human Trafficking -- a very interesting and worthwhile read.
> See http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
> What heading did you give it?
> "SEX TRAFFICING (SIC) SUPPORTED BY EUROPE AND N. AMERICA"
There is NOTHING WRONG with my subject line:
EUROPE AND N. AMERICAN ARE PRIMARY SUPPORTERS OF THE GLOBAL SEX TRADE
from http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
Since Canada is part of the N.America continent as well as many other
countries listed in that article. I don't know about your educational
background, but I was taught that Canada is a big country in N.America.
THE ARTICLE SPECIFICALLY STATES - QUOTE: "Canada is primarily a
destination and transit country for women trafficked for the purposes of
sexual exploitation from China, South Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the
Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and Eastern Europe. "
As you can see, there is nothing incorrect stated in my subject line.
Prove to me that the article doesn't state what I quoted.
Examine the other links that I have listed.
Europe and N.America primary supporters of global sex trade
-----------------------------------------------------
Topic: Canada is primarily a destination and transit country for women
trafficked for the purposes of sexual exploitation from China, South
Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines, Latin America, Russia, and
Eastern Europe. To a lesser extent, men, women and children are
trafficked for forced labor, and Canadian citizens are trafficked
internally for the sex trade. Most transiting victims are bound for the
U.S. In a recent criminal intelligence assessment, the Royal Canadian
Mounted Police (RCMP) estimates that 800 persons are trafficked into
Canada annually and that an additional 1,500-2,200 persons are
trafficked through Canada into the U.S. Some observers believe these
numbers significantly understate the problem.
Source: http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2004/33198.htm
Topic:A Thai organization called FACE, the coalition to Fight Against
Child Exploitation, claimed that 5,000 foreigners come to Thailand each
year to have sex with children. The organization described the AVERAGE
SEX TOURIST as a middle-aged WHITE male from either EUROPE or NORTH
AMERICA who often goes online to find the "best deals." One particular
Web site promised "nights of sex with two young Thai girls for the price
of a tank of gas." UNICEF estimates the number of Thai children involved
in prostitution to be between 60,000 and 200,000, though the
organization says the exact number is difficult to track.
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2325416&page=1
Topic: SEX TRAFFICKING - San Francisco Is A Major Center
For International Crime Networks That Smuggle And Enslave
The most often cited numbers come from the U.S. State Department, which
estimates that 600,000 to 800,000 people are trafficked for forced labor
and sex worldwide each year -- and that 80 percent are women and girls.
Most trafficked females, the department says, are exploited in
commercial sex outlets.
Source:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/06/MNGR1LGUQ41.DTL
Topic: Regan Ralph, the executive director of the women's rights
At a time when the U.S. State Department and the United Nations labor to
combat the international trafficking in women, the U.S. military
supports a flourishing trade in sex slaves in South Korea.
At least 5,000 foreign women have been trafficked into South Korea since
the mid-1990s to work as “entertainers” in clubs near U.S. bases, but
the actual total “may be much higher,” according to a new report. They
work long hours for low pay, are virtual prisoners of club managers and
frequently are forced to have paid sex with U.S. military customers.
“Women trafficked into the Korean entertainment industry endure working
conditions that clearly exploit them,” the IOM report stated. “Some of
these women are brought to South Korea to provide sexual services and
are required to do so sometimes from the very first day they arrive in
South Korea.”
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-370588.php
A Pentagon team is spending two weeks in South Korea investigating a
congressman’s charges that the U.S. command there knew foreign women had
been illegally trafficked into clubs that serve its troops, that some of
the women had been forced into prostitution and that its courtesy
patrols served to protect the illegal practice.
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-370593.php
'America will never leave Iraq', US soldier says
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
> Vernon North wrote:
> > Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> > you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> > slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> > the wolves!
> > Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> > like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> > asking me to post again? I know you can do it - after all, you ARE the
> > Diabolical Dr. Huo!
>
> I don't have any flock to tend.
Your modesty is showing again! Simple George, Kaz and Supertech are
counting on you! They want you to defeat me so they will be free to
post their racist crap unopposed. Help them out! You do agree with
their racist views, don't you? Or maybe you don't? Why don't you answer
this question directly, as George would have me do? (wink, wink)
> I just appreciate their moral support
Hey, that's a little joke, right? "Moral" -- as though three of the
most racist posters here are "moral"? OK, I get the joke! Very clever!
> and ability to see through your lies and deceptions.
Actually, they didn't do that. They just got behind you because they
don't appreciate how I've roasted them for their racist posts. But you
appreciate that all the same, right?
> I don't tell
> George how to compose his replies to you. I don't tell him the words he
> chooses to communicate with you.
Very good! Distance yourself from Simple George, but oh, so subtly!
Don't lose your flock!
> I'm sure he is using vocabulary that
> you can understand easily.
Yes, I can. And so can you. That's why I'm surprised to see you thank
him for his support. But I guess you believe "the enemy of my enemy is
my friend", right? Quite a primitive idea, don't you think? Or are you
in sympathy with George's racism?
> George knows how to use Google. He just
> wants YOU to answer his questions rather than avoid them.
If George knew how to use Google, he would do so. I've already answered
his question directly. And he could easily find the answer . . . if he
knew how to Google.
Verno
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <eib9jj$1d2u$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, huo...@gmail.com says...
> > I think you will never get a straight answer out of Vernon. Like I was
> > trying to tell everyone - Vernon North is the GREAT DECEIVER!
>
> Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> the wolves!
>
> Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> asking me to post again? I know you can do it -- after all, you ARE the
> Diabolical Dr. Huo!
You can do better than that white cunt. You kept telling lies here is
the cause. Read the topic here and answer the question directly without
anymore of your white cunt vocabulary.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <eibfnj$1i1v$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, huo...@gmail.com says...
> > Vernon North wrote:
> > > Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> > > you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> > > slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> > > the wolves!
> > > Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> > > like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> > > asking me to post again? I know you can do it - after all, you ARE the
> > > Diabolical Dr. Huo!
> >
> > I don't have any flock to tend.
>
> Your modesty is showing again! Simple George, Kaz and Supertech are
> counting on you! They want you to defeat me so they will be free to
> post their racist crap unopposed. Help them out! You do agree with
> their racist views, don't you? Or maybe you don't? Why don't you answer
> this question directly, as George would have me do? (wink, wink)
wow white cunt, you are talking cunt again,. This is not about winning
or losing. It is about showing your posts to Freddie and Alethias that
have hyenas laughter that you so generously spew out to Asian posters
who attacke the westerner racists. You are the passive racist who give
moral support to them here by siding with them. Oh don't bother to give
more of your cunt vocabulary here. Just answer the question directly
super cunt.
George
<georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
news:1162339308....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Umm, if Aisan countries are not still predominantly Asian/mongoloid stock,
what, pray tell, are they?
George
George
"George" <geo...@yourservice.com> wrote in message
news:hoCdnQCyprgP4tTY...@insightbb.com...
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html
Ethnic groups: Han Chinese 91.9%, Zhuang, Uygur, Hui, Yi, Tibetan, Miao,
Manchu, Mongol, Buyi, Korean, and other nationalities 8.1%
George
George
So, George. Is it "white moronic racist" to point out that a Chinaman is a
Chinaman?
George (the other one)
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
that would be difficult to explain to lapdog bastard like you. Maybe
that white cunt can show you how to google the answer out. She is an
expert you know.
George
<georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
news:1162445543....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
No doubt it is difficult for you to explain much of anything to anyone if
all you've got is bad language to go along with a bad attitude. Do you
kiss your mother with that mouth?
George
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
you are being as clever as your cuntie Verno. Soon you will google as
well too son :)
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
you are being as clever as your cuntie Verno. Soon you will google as
well too son :)
George
<georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
news:1162451167.8...@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Thanks for proving my point. Listen carefully. Here that sound? It's the
sound of your sorry post slamming the bottom of my plonk bucket. PLONK!
George
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Sorry dickie George, all I could hear is Canadian hyena laughters all
the way from Canada. Maybe the cuntie Verno has already awake from her
den.
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > In article <eib9jj$1d2u$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, huo...@gmail.com says...
> > > I think you will never get a straight answer out of Vernon. Like I was
> > > trying to tell everyone - Vernon North is the GREAT DECEIVER!
> >
> > Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> > you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> > slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> > the wolves!
> >
> > Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> > like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> > asking me to post again? I know you can do it -- after all, you ARE the
> > Diabolical Dr. Huo!
>
> You can do better than that white cunt. You kept telling lies here is
> the cause.
I have two words for you. FIND ONE.
Verno
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > In article <eibfnj$1i1v$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, huo...@gmail.com says...
> > > Vernon North wrote:
> > > > Good work, Dr. Huo. You MUST tend your flock. Side with them. Maybe
> > > > you can assure him that is ISN'T racist to continually post racist
> > > > slurs! Don't leave your flock undefended or they'll soon get eaten by
> > > > the wolves!
> > > > Maybe you can help him learn to use Google to find posts? You know,
> > > > like the one I posted in the past couple of weeks that George keeps
> > > > asking me to post again? I know you can do it - after all, you ARE the
> > > > Diabolical Dr. Huo!
> > >
> > > I don't have any flock to tend.
> >
> > Your modesty is showing again! Simple George, Kaz and Supertech are
> > counting on you! They want you to defeat me so they will be free to
> > post their racist crap unopposed. Help them out! You do agree with
> > their racist views, don't you? Or maybe you don't? Why don't you answer
> > this question directly, as George would have me do? (wink, wink)
>
> wow white cunt, you are talking cunt again,. This is not about winning
> or losing. It is about showing your posts to Freddie and Alethias that
> have hyenas laughter that you so generously spew out to Asian posters
> who attacke the westerner racists.
Are you saying I have not one the same to non-Asians? What will you say
when I prove you wrong? Will you apologize?
> You are the passive racist who give
> moral support to them here by siding with them.
Siding with whom? Be specific. Provide examples.
Verno
lechergod
Needed or not is the slave's business,
not to be dominated by this communists' dog's "like I was trying to
tell everyone".
this communists' dog is to make the 1.3 billion mainlander-slave
pending
for "like I was trying to tell everyone" for ever only !!!!
"Huo Xin Jao" <huo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eib5cf$19p1$1...@agate.berkeley.edu...
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
still got stuck in small cunt talk again. It's your specialised field
cuntie Verno.
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
when everythings fails always go back to this little cunt talk huh
cuntie Verno?
North@oyama.bc.ca Vernon North
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> in less than 5 minutes. How many hyenas did you gave to Western posters
> bastard racist?
I repeat: How much will you pay me if I do your job for you by Googling
up the proof I recently posted?
If you pay me, I will do it. Otherwise, do it yourself.
Verno
>
>
>
> Vernon North wrote:
> > In article <1162195980.9...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> > georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > > How do you define racism ? Show us your ridicule of Freddie and
> > > Alethias posts. There are plenty of your against Asian posters.
> >
> > Been there, done that -- how quickly you forget.
> >
> > And what gives YOU any moral authority to object to racist posts? You
> > post racist comments all the time!
> >
> > BEGIN SAMPLE OF SIMPLE GEORGE'S RACIST POSTS
> > =====================================================
> > "Is it because he
> > chink chink and chink chink there
> > everywhere he goes he chink chink chink?
> > bloody chinky he is "
> > -------
> >
> > "Ahem, half breed kimchee hate chinks. "
> > "Ahem, Chink hates Jappy. "
> > -------
> >
> > "Bastard, look at the subject before you open you fucking mouth here.
> > Get lost you fucking bastard kimchee. what you have written is pure
> > garbage not related to this topic.
> > =====================================================
> >
> > Googling that sample took less than 5 minutes. If you like, I can
> > Google up a lot more.
> >
> > Verno
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vernon North wrote:
> > > > In article <1162175993.7...@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > > > > " Interestingly, contemporary research in social psychology
> > > > > demonstrates that the
> > > > > aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
> > > > > racism is an unconscious process."
> > > > >
> > > > > this is most of the posters from western side is practising. They
> > > > > passively support the active racists by turning to other side and
> > > > > pretend they didn't read their posts coming from their contemporaries.
> > > > > When Asian posters post in retaliation, they give their hyenas laugh
> > > > > and ridicule as a way of showing they are modern day educated people
> > > > > against racism. This is a laugh and when they keep asking for proof of
> > > > > their wrong doings.
> > > >
> > > > I'll tell you something even funnier -- those who take smug comfort in
> > > > such ideas when they can't find any evidence to support their claims
> > > > that others are racists. You *know* it's true -- you just can't find
> > > > any credible examples.
> > > > >
> > > > > This report clearly show that racism still exists in Western countries
> > > > > and being encourage there by the vast majority of their populations
> > > >
> > > > What are you droning on about? You perpetuate racism here every day.
> > > > Shall I drag out a few examples from your posts, or are you willing to
> > > > concede how easy that would be?
> > > >
> > > > Verno
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Huo Xin Jao wrote:
> > > > > > http://pzacad.pitzer.edu/~hfairchi/courses/Fall2000Papers/ModernRacism.htm
> > > > > > Modern-Day Racism Masks Its Ugly Head
> > > > > > Published in the Los Angeles Times, September 11, 2000, Page B7
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By HALFORD H. FAIRCHILD
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are those who assert that racism is obsolete and not a
> > > > > > contemporary problem. But racism is a current event; only its expression
> > > > > > is more disguised and subtle. And it requires intervention.
> > > > > > We can best understand the contemporary reality of racism by
> > > > > > delving into its past. In antiquity, knowledge of racial differentiation
> > > > > > was not necessarily accompanied by dehumanizing sentiments; indeed, the
> > > > > > ancient Greeks and Romans looked upon the ancient Ethiopians with
> > > > > > respect and romanticism. The ancient Egyptians' awareness of racial
> > > > > > variation did not carry with it the dehumanization of those who were
> > > > > > superficially different.
> > > > > > The idea of race took on the patina of a scientific enterprise
> > > > > > primarily in the early to mid-1800s, as part of what is largely known as
> > > > > > the European Enlightenment. Scientists at that time, particularly in
> > > > > > biology and botany, were earnest in classifying the diversity of life on
> > > > > > Earth, and part of this classification included the human species.
> > > > > > Perhaps because of ethnocentrism and cultural chauvinism, the
> > > > > > classification of human beings included a rank ordering with Europeans
> > > > > > at the top of the scale and Africans at the bottom.
> > > > > > The institutionalization of slavery within the Americas required
> > > > > > an intellectual justification for the mistreatment of millions of
> > > > > > African men, women and children. Muslims had mirrored this process of
> > > > > > intellectually justifying enslavement in the earlier enslavement of East
> > > > > > Africans. Slavery required racism and was the proximate cause of it.
> > > > > > Racism became unique in the United States largely because of the
> > > > > > efforts to abolish slavery. These efforts intensified the efforts of
> > > > > > slavery's apologists to justify their "peculiar institution." Thus if we
> > > > > > can say that contemporary racism is a product of American slavery, then
> > > > > > we must also accept the premise that American slavery demonstrates other
> > > > > > consequences that are as alive and well today as is racism.
> > > > > > Racism in contemporary world affairs is disguised, and it is what
> > > > > > some refer to as symbolic racism, modern racism or aversive racism.
> > > > > > These eschew the old-fashioned, redneck ideology of white supremacy and
> > > > > > black inferiority and instead espouse support for the ideals of equality
> > > > > > in human affairs. Yet these ideals of equality are discordant with the
> > > > > > preference for the status quo of white privilege.
> > > > > > Thus aversive racism is manifested in opposition to programs and
> > > > > > policies that seek to undo white privilege or provide advantages to
> > > > > > blacks on the basis of historical discrimination. Interestingly,
> > > > > > contemporary research in social psychology demonstrates that the
> > > > > > aversive racist is unaware of his or her racism; much of contemporary
> > > > > > racism is an unconscious process.
> > > > > > In a series of interesting experiments, some in the laboratory and
> > > > > > some in real-world settings, social psychologists have illustrated the
> > > > > > presence of unconscious or aversive racism in a number of contexts. The
> > > > > > effects of aversive racism are manifold and affect the quality of life
> > > > > > of Africans and African Americans both physically and psychologically.
> > > > > > Thus we see the ravages of racism at work in the appalling statistics of
> > > > > > HIV/AIDS in Africa and among African Americans. We see the
> > > > > > life-and-death consequences of old-fashioned and modern racism in the
> > > > > > rates of infant mortality among Africans and African Americans as well
> > > > > > as their much higher rates of preventable deaths from hypertension,
> > > > > > heart disease, cancer and violence.
> > > > > > The current effects of racism have led to a widening of the
> > > > > > economic gulf between white Americans and black Americans. Although the
> > > > > > proportions of African Americans in the middle and upper classes have
> > > > > > increased, so too has the proportion of African American children reared
> > > > > > in poverty. The presence of African Americans in the higher echelons of
> > > > > > corporate America, government and the military is about one-tenth of
> > > > > > what one would expect given a system of true equal opportunity.
> > > > > > To solve these problems of structured inequality, we must first
> > > > > > acknowledge the reality of racism in contemporary world affairs. We can
> > > > > > no longer afford to hide from this reality. We must make conscious
> > > > > > unconscious racism. Then we must develop and propagate social and
> > > > > > institutional norms and values that reject racism--conscious and
> > > > > > unconscious--and advance true equal opportunity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halford H. Fairchild Is a Professor of Psychology and Black Studies at
> > > > > > Pitzer
> > > > > > College. E-mail: Hfair...@pitzer.edu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Author's comment: This paper was written as an example of student on
> > > > > > how to integrate a set of readings. It was very fortunate that it was
> > > > > > published as now my students have more reason to believe that I know
> > > > > > what I'm talking about!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I received a number of e-mails, both pro- and con. To read these
> > > > > > e-mails, and my responses to them, click here: RacismE-mails.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg
Vernon North wrote:
> In article <1162261589....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> georgefer...@yahoo.com.sg says...
> > Yuo haven't show us that your respond to Freddie and Alethias racist
> > posts here. Like you said, I can find your hyenas to all asian posters
> > in less than 5 minutes. How many hyenas did you gave to Western posters
> > bastard racist?
>
> I repeat: How much will you pay me if I do your job for you by Googling
> up the proof I recently posted?
>
> If you pay me, I will do it. Otherwise, do it yourself.
>
> Verno
don't kid yourself here liar,cheat and cunt.