Re: International Stuff
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
[_SUV_]
> > Thanks, that makes it quite clear. And it is also different from a van,
> > too.
> >
> > Wonder what the letters S, U and V stand for (as an abbreviation?),
> > originally.
>
> sport utility vehicle.
>
Thanks, Marika!
> the utility part means that it has great utility -- it can be used for
> any number of things and missions.
>
> sport is from the use of the vehicle to drive in most terrains to
> enable the occupants to engage in any number of sports that an ordinary
> car would not allow them to drive to. Skiing would be an excellent
> example. In other words, it's a more comfortable jeep in a way
>
I do agree.
Formerly (in the link as given), I saw a Chevrolet SUV. Are there
imports from Japan (maybe Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, etc) or
Europe available in the U.S. in this particular market segment?
[Eyeglasses or ‘soft lenses’]
> it has not got anything to do with contacts.
> My eye glass prescription defies contact lenses.
>
I see; it seems to be a rather complicated problem.
> >
> > [Camo Toga] (link snipped)
> >
> > > you got it here. the fabric but not the style
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Would it look like the one shown?
> > >
> > > I couldn't quite wear that one to work, unless it had a little bit more
> > > fabric covering the chest and leg. My hope is that I could look
> > > shapeless so no one could tell whether i had gained weight.
> > >
> >
> > Good idea!
> >
> > Or even better: Oh, U may be a camomoufle?!
> >
> > Finally, I’ve resolved our problem as to *pöpїmoufle*.
> >
> > I can see the two points on the “I” at the Google-Posting’s
> > preview. Hope they arrive at your end that way, too.
>
> they have arrived
>
I’m happy about it.
[Imaginary design firm]
> > > > What kind of fashion does 'your enterprise' produce or sell?
> > >
> > > you mean my imaginary fashion conglomerate and design house?
> > > whatever I imagine, gosh!
> > > my imaginary design firm would also like to design jewelry. I like
> > > to wrap my fingers around gems as if it has the bezel to see whether I
> > > think it too dark to set, so I would like to set a lot of jewelry
> > >
> >
> > Quite interesting - for a procedure!
>
> it's a known trade secret, how you test a gem before you set it in
> metal
>
ACK :-)
> > > "Dick Cheney was holding a $2,000 a plate fundraising lunch, so we
> > > asked Americans all over the country to join me the same day for a
> > > lunch in front of their computers. It spaked a huge response, and,
> > > amazingly, the online contributions from that day matched what Cheney
> > > made from his fundraiser."--dick cheney
> > >
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > _EXCURSE_
> >
> >
> > The Munich Oktoberfest is open now (until 3rd Oct.):
> >
> > Oans, zwoa, gsuffa! (Bavarian slang):
> > http://onreisen.t-online.de/c/53/24/79/5324796.html
> >
> > Means “eins, zwei, gesoffen!” Or: One, two, boozed!
>
> They will be combining an Oktoberfest together with the renessaince
> festival. If time allows, I may go
>
To this
“Texas Renaissance Festival” in Plantersville (Texas)?
[Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany]
> >
> > How do you like “Dirndl” & “Lederhosen” (Bavarian skirts &
> > leather pants for men & women)?
>
> I think they look adorable.
> I have a memory of my father owning a pair of lederhosen a very long
> time ago.
>
I’m glad he did.
In my youth in Lindau (Bodensee) I did it to.
Nowadays, the girls look great and extremely sexy in ‘em –
particularly in the very short ones.
> do the German oktoberfests have much polkas? Or is that an american
> reinterpretation of the festival?
>
That’s right, there is a lot of “Blasmusik” (mostly Bavarian &
Egerlaender), and polkas etc are being danced – in a funny way.
>
> Would they ever have crunk at an Oktoberfest?
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunk - like this?
I don’t know whether it’s really crunk as wiki-described. But
everything musically played and being danced there would appear to me
pretty much ‘crunky’, tho.
> That, if you are not sure, is a style of hip hop or rap music
> >
> East Side Guys (I think their name was that) did a song that was a hit
> 2 or 3 years ago"
>
> three six nine was the first line
>
I got the feeling of what you mean although I’ve never heard that
specific one.
> that is why I associated them with the Bavarian saying because their
> mission is also to become gsuffa
>
Yeah...
> here is a thread discussing crunk if you want to explore a little more
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.hip-hop/browse_frm/thread/1aa01a92cf08702c/fa69a37578ce56?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Drec.music.hip-hop#fa69a37578ce56
I’ve read it. Thanks!
>
>
> "Nobody broke your heart...you broke your own cuz you can't finish what
> you start," --eliot smith, alameda
>
I guess that’s true - and I gonna better avoid it that way...
>
CU, Frank
--
www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html
http://groups.google.com/group/Governance-global-vs-regional
http://groups.google.com/group/Designer-Fashion-Europa
http://groups.google.com/group/HAPLIF-BLOGGING-international
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> > had many contacts afterwards with Stanford researchers and so on.
> >
>
>
> how interesting. All in German, though. I will have to use my
> patience when I find time in the computer room to read some of those
> posts.
>
The following postings are in English, tho:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Governance-global-vs-regional/msg/7fd6594769100edb
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/Governance-global-vs-regional/msg/9b04b554bac4d88f
> In other news, I spent today at a renaissance festival. My favorite
> sight was the lady bagpipe player who wore pink high top sneakers
>
I'd like to have a look into that website (link?)...
>
> "looked really good in cold water when steam rose up out of the fryeres
> and it appeared and disappeared through the mist"--banksy
>
Don't get that message;
sounds a bit misty or almost mysterious.
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > >
> >
>
> either
>
> there is a famous quote
>
> "Imitation is the highest form of flattery."--Chalres Caleb Colton,
> 1820
>
Oh yes, that's true, and I knew that one
although I was not aware of its author.
> That was the thought I was referencing
> If you were acting like Venice then you are mimicking it
>
> Venice would be flattered by your wanting to be just like Venice.
>
Venice is usually personified by a *Gondoliere*.
I won't prefer to be a type like this (although he is the one who
conducts two people into an utmost romantic love ...or alike). I prefer
sailing and surfing, tho.
> Because there is no reason that you would want to be like Venice unless
> you admired Venice
>
Yes, I sort of admire it; but not its /romantic/ Gondoliere stuff, tho.
All houses and 'palazzi'
http://www.jc-r.net/venezia/palazzi/indexd.html
are built on stilts. Great original architecture...
> > This evening, we'll get the preliminary results of the today's
> > election to the German *Bundestag* (a bit similar to the US congress).
> > It is estimated that the present Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder (SPD;
> > left wing like the US democrats) may not get a further opportunity to
> > govern thru another four years' legislative period (after having been
> > in office for 7 years by now).
> >
>
>
> I read a bit about on the net just before I started reading. Keep us
> up to date.
>
There is the latest information:
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/sep2005/nf20050919_7791_db046.htm
I wrote this today:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/de.soc.wirtschaft/msg/a72ed9bd288ffc34
I rather prefer that Gerd (Gerhard Schroeder) might win the poker on
the chancellorship for the next four years in a so-called "grand
coalition" (black & red) (CDU/CSU & SPD) (like the US republicans &
democrats together).
>
> "art's the last of the great cartels"--banksy
>
Hmmm...
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> > most famous places in Budapest and its surroundings - always with
> > live music and in the evenings with some dance shows.
>
> Did they ever present the Black Eyed Peas?
>
I was in Hungary in 1996. The BEP didn't exist at that time. As I
wrote a few days ago, I like their "don't phunk with my heart".
At the luncheons and dinners they were playing their indigenous music
(that has inspired many world-famous composers) and presenting
spectacular-rhythmic dance shows in their unique and very pleasant
clothes (lot of white, red, black and gold colors).
> who woulda thought the peas would cover a spandau ballet piece
> and a hip hop verson of thompson twins
>
Have not yet seen that, -- but will watch out for it.
> >We got all sorts
> > of wines along with the meals - _open_, though.
>
>
> wild
>
Oooh, yeeeaaahhhh...
>
> "i cannot help but wonder upon reflection of the circumstances, how much
> longer we will be able to carry with us our digital cameras, or take
> photographs and document the experiences we had "--Chris Missick,
> stationed in Iraq
>
Iraq is a sad story at all.
But otherwise Chris 's right.
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:> >
>
> Venice is usually personified by a *Gondoliere*.
> I won't prefer to be a type like this (although he is the one who
> conducts two people into an utmost romantic love ...or alike).
you are being too linear if you don't mind my pointing out.
I will currently assert that I am acting just like Wyoming, USA.
but tomorrow I may go back to mimicking Washington DC.
things are going well with my being Washington, so perhaps I shouldn't
change my prototype. i don't know what I will be returning to in the
foreseeable future?
>I prefer
> sailing and surfing, tho.
pick a different city to emulate that you like better
Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
mk5000
"I lay me down.
All around me,
Golden sunflakes covering the ground,
Basking in the sunshine of a by gone afternoon"--pink floyd,
grantchester meadows
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> Formerly (in the link as given), I saw a Chevrolet SUV. Are there
> imports from Japan (maybe Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, etc) or
> Europe available in the U.S. in this particular market segment?
It seems that nearly everyone makes a SUV now. I work with someone who
has a Mercedes Benz SUV.
>
> [Eyeglasses or ‘soft lenses’]
>
> > it has not got anything to do with contacts.
> > My eye glass prescription defies contact lenses.
> >
>
> I see; it seems to be a rather complicated problem.
indeed
>
> > >
> > > [Camo Toga] (link snipped)
> > >
> > > > you got it here. the fabric but not the style
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Would it look like the one shown?
> > > >
> > > > I couldn't quite wear that one to work, unless it had a little bit more
> > > > fabric covering the chest and leg. My hope is that I could look
> > > > shapeless so no one could tell whether i had gained weight.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good idea!
> > >
> > > Or even better: Oh, U may be a camomoufle?!
> > >
> > > Finally, I’ve resolved our problem as to *pöpїmoufle*.
> > >
> > > I can see the two points on the “I” at the Google-Posting’s
> > > preview. Hope they arrive at your end that way, too.
> >
> > they have arrived
> >
>
> I’m happy about it.
Glad they made it.
>
> [Imaginary design firm]
>
> > > > > What kind of fashion does 'your enterprise' produce or sell?
> > > >
> > > > you mean my imaginary fashion conglomerate and design house?
> > > > whatever I imagine, gosh!
> > > > my imaginary design firm would also like to design jewelry. I like
> > > > to wrap my fingers around gems as if it has the bezel to see whether I
> > > > think it too dark to set, so I would like to set a lot of jewelry
> > > >
> > >
> > > Quite interesting - for a procedure!
> >
> > it's a known trade secret, how you test a gem before you set it in
> > metal
> >
>
> ACK :-)
I will have to let you know how some of my imaginary jewelry looks.
.
>
> > > > "Dick Cheney was holding a $2,000 a plate fundraising lunch, so we
> > > > asked Americans all over the country to join me the same day for a
> > > > lunch in front of their computers. It spaked a huge response, and,
> > > > amazingly, the online contributions from that day matched what Cheney
> > > > made from his fundraiser."--dick cheney
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > _EXCURSE_
> > >
> > >
> > > The Munich Oktoberfest is open now (until 3rd Oct.):
> > >
> > > Oans, zwoa, gsuffa! (Bavarian slang):
> > > http:
> > > Means “eins, zwei, gesoffen!” Or: One, two, boozed!
> >
> > They will be combining an Oktoberfest together with the renessaince
> > festival. If time allows, I may go
> >
>
> To this
>
> http://www.texrenfest.com
BUMMER, especially since it looks like
I will have to do a three day weekend if I wish to enjoy.
Another thing I want to try a bit more of is Irish pubs.
RiRA I am going to
try to get there in the next two weeks. There is a nice one in
Bethesda and they will be opening a new one in clarendon soon too.
There is certainly the beer commonality there
>
> “Texas Renaissance Festival” in Plantersville (Texas)?
there is one here in Maryland.
here's the link with some fine photos. it's a permanent site with
permanent buildings and the festival every weekend in late summer
through fall.
http://dwdewolfe.com/gallery/MDRenFaire03
>
>
> [Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany]
> > >
> > > How do you like “Dirndl” & “Lederhosen” (Bavarian skirts &
> > > leather pants for men & women)?
> >
> > I think they look adorable.
> > I have a memory of my father owning a pair of lederhosen a very long
> > time ago.
> >
>
> I’m glad he did.
> In my youth in Lindau (Bodensee) I did it to.
>
> Nowadays, the girls look great and extremely sexy in ‘em –
> particularly in the very short ones.
are you describing sexy women in the lederhosen or the dirndls? I
can't tell.
>
> > do the German oktoberfests have much polkas? Or is that an american
> > reinterpretation of the festival?
> >
> That’s right, there is a lot of “Blasmusik” (mostly Bavarian &
> Egerlaender), and polkas etc are being danced – in a funny way.
> >
> > Would they ever have crunk at an Oktoberfest?
> >
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunk - like this?
>
> I don’t know whether it’s really crunk as wiki-described. But
> everything musically played and being danced there would appear to me
> pretty much ‘crunky’, tho.
>
> > That, if you are not sure, is a style of hip hop or rap music
> > >
> > East Side Guys (I think their name was that) did a song that was a hit
> > 2 or 3 years ago"
> >
> > three six nine was the first line
ok, I finallly remembered their real name
the Three 6 Mafia
about 90 percent of their lyrics have their name somewhere in them
although I could swear one of the songs had the line 3 6 9
not just 3 6 mafia
I suppose they could be saying 3 6 ma FIE a
mk5000
"except there's less room to screw up"--a crew member
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > marika wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Vienna calls itself "little Paris"
>
>
> > Many cities like St. Petersburg in Russia or Bamberg in Germany, etc,
> > call themselves "little Venice".
>
>
> Bucharest was also called little Paris.
> And maybe more rightfully from any other capital as it has its own
> ... Arc de Triumph !!!
>
Yes, from what I saw - thus far - in TV about Bucharest, that appears
to be true.
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
[Poland]
>
> >> Yes, Poland is another beautiful country with two faces:
> >> - one face is the old (and forgotten by us, the "urbanized" sons of our
> >> era...) one of the Polish village, still unaltered...
> >> - the other face is the face of the old city centers, those with the
> >> fabulous buildings from the 18th-19th centuries...
>
>
> > Yes, from various TV reports I've gotten some /good/ idea and feeling
> > about that (German neighbouring) nation.
>
> It's nice.
> I like people a lot, they still have some of that old aristocratic air,
> think that even the youngest Poles are still kissing the hand of a woman
> when they meet!
>
Yes, those are very nice and charming gestures.
>
> > And some years ago (immediately upon its publication) I had read
> > "Mein Leben" (My Life) by Marcel Reich-Ranicki. Do you know about
> > him - the most-famous Jew as the German literary critic, the
> > so-called German "Literature Pope"?
>
> Unfortunately not...
>
Well, reading a bit in the two websites (links as given) you may get
some quick idea about him and his cultural (mainly literary)
involvement. I found it notable that he is apparently rather well known
in the USA, too, as far as the mention of his autobiography in the
Princeton University Press is concerned.
> > About Marcel's Poland involvement you may have a look at the two
> > links below:
> >
> > http://www.signandsight.com/features/327.html
> >
> > http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/titles/7110.html
> >
[Gogu's Budapest photos]
> >
> >> If I still can't post them, I'd like to send them to you in order to
> >> post them if that's OK with you...
>
>
> > I'll be back from a travel in a couple of days.
> > But, the posting at my end won't work either, as it is technically
> > not possible to get jpg- or gif-formats directly into a Google posting.
> > I suggest that you rather add them to your gallery (as sig.). Thus,
> > anyone could easily view 'em, then.
>
>
> OK, but first I must make some time and find them ;-)
>
ACK, of course.
> My nephew came to visit me this Saturday and my time is limited right now...
> As soon as I find them I'll put them on-line as you suggested.
>
That's great; we will be awaiting them, there...
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
[Spaghetti with Roquefort sauce]
>
> Indeed!
> I am also using it in the pizza I make at home!
> Quatro formaggi!
>
Yes, that's quite tasty.
What three other cheeses are you (usually) taking for that "4 cheeses
pizza"?
[Sushi]
Btw, some Germans - and I guess as well some Europeans as some US
citizens - like the Japanese "sushi" (specially done
"fish"-finger-food). Is it also liked in Greece?
> >> Hmmm ... I've seen those "red" Tokays but AFAIK the Tokay is normally
> >> white
> >> and rose'...
> >> And there are two different productions of Tokay, only one of them is the
> >> "original"...
>
>
> >Yeah, there are many types around.
> >During my stay in Hungary, we had daily luncheons and dinners in the
> >most famous places in Budapest and its surroundings - always with
> >live music and in the evenings with some dance shows. We got all sorts
> >of wines along with the meals - _open_, though. Thus, I did not care
> >about their names and special origins. But it was - altogether - a
> >great delight.
>
> ;-)
> Indeed ;-)
>
After the dinners with indigenous music and dance shows I used to check
out the more modern forms of the Budapest night life ('erotic
dance' discos and bars, etc ...).
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> > Venice is usually personified by a *Gondoliere*.
> > I won't prefer to be a type like this (although he is the one who
> > conducts two people into an utmost romantic love ...or alike).
>
>
> you are being too linear if you don't mind my pointing out.
>
Sorry, Marika, I used some sort of a "deviation" to get closer to
the point that I did not _yet_ - thus far - quite fully "gather".
> I will currently assert that I am acting just like Wyoming, USA.
>
Maybe, a little bit like "cold" respectively "fierce"?
> but tomorrow I may go back to mimicking Washington DC.
>
Maybe, being "very busy" and "sophisticated"?
> things are going well with my being Washington, so perhaps I shouldn't
> change my prototype.
>
Yeah, that's a positive-minded self-consciousness.
> i don't know what I will be returning to in the
> foreseeable future?
>
I'll be waiting to get eventually aware of it...
> >I prefer
> > sailing and surfing, tho.
>
> pick a different city to emulate that you like better
> Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
>
I won't do that in any city;
only in the wide-open Mediterranean Sea or large bay areas...
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
[SUV: US imports]
>
> It seems that nearly everyone makes a SUV now.
>
ACK.
Meanwhile I've checked into this and found that SUV (as you described
it) is also widely known in Germany.
> I work with someone who has a Mercedes Benz SUV.
>
Yeah, there is an example:
Btw, I'm driving /over here/ the same brand and color (i.e. silver
metallic) as a regular limousine (sedan) (4 doors & 5 seats). The
sportive SUVs - I'd suspect - are too much gas-consuming.
[Imaginary design firm]
>
> I will have to let you know how some of my imaginary jewelry looks.
> .
Is that second dot (after the full-stop) meant?
> > To this
> >
> > http://www.texrenfest.com
>
> BUMMER, especially since it looks like
>
The term "bummer"
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/bummer
is kind of complicated. Is there a short-cut available (as a hitting
description)?
> I will have to do a three day weekend if I wish to enjoy.
>
Wow, I wish you a lot of fun! :-))
>
> Another thing I want to try a bit more of is Irish pubs.
> RiRA I am going to
> try to get there in the next two weeks. There is a nice one in
> Bethesda and they will be opening a new one in clarendon soon too.
> There is certainly the beer commonality there
>
You may have a look at the Irish beer talk
http://groups.google.de/group/soc.culture.greek/msg/c9389a591a38a936
I had with Lester. I did not like the "Stout" (too bitter); but I
enjoyed e.g. the Murphy's Red.
> > "Texas Renaissance Festival" ...?
>
> there is one here in Maryland.
>
> here's the link with some fine photos. it's a permanent site with
> permanent buildings and the festival every weekend in late summer
> through fall.
>
> http://dwdewolfe.com/gallery/MDRenFaire03
>
Yeah, that's nice and interesting.
It appears that, in the US, "renaissance" stands for all kind of
historic outfits and arrangements.
In Europe the term *renaissance* is usually associated with a typical
architecture (like in Florence and other famous Italian cities); and it
is also available in Germany and other European countries. It is the
period between the gothic and the baroque.
[Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany]
> are you describing sexy women in the lederhosen or the dirndls? I
> can't tell.
>
There are two types of Bavarian "Lederhos'n":
a) the long black ones (bound beneath the knees) and
b) the /light colored/ short ones.
I meant, for the girls' sexiness the type b.
Dirndls provide usually very sexy décolletées - and they are a
"must" for female Oktoberfest visitors.
[Crunk / hip hop or rap music of the East Side Guys]
>
> ok, I finallly remembered their real name
>
> the Three 6 Mafia
>
> about 90 percent of their lyrics have their name somewhere in them
> although I could swear one of the songs had the line 3 6 9
> not just 3 6 mafia
> I suppose they could be saying 3 6 ma FIE a
>
Yeah!
>
> "except there's less room to screw up"--a crew member
>
At the Munich Oktoberfest they are using 'a mass[*] or more' as
sort of "screw drivers".
*] One litre of beer in a glass is a "Maß".
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> ACK.
> Meanwhile I've checked into this and found that SUV (as you described
> it) is also widely known in Germany.
>
> > I work with someone who has a Mercedes Benz SUV.
> >
>
> Yeah, there is an example:
>
> http://www.4x4abc.com/ML320
>
I think my sister has that same car
>
> Btw, I'm driving /over here/ the same brand and color (i.e. silver
> metallic) as a regular limousine (sedan) (4 doors & 5 seats). The
> sportive SUVs - I'd suspect - are too much gas-consuming.
>
>
> [Imaginary design firm]
>
> >
> > I will have to let you know how some of my imaginary jewelry looks.
> > .
>
> Is that second dot (after the full-stop) meant?
the second dot was purely invisible to me til you pointed it out.
you must have sharp sight
>
>
> > > To this
> > >
> > > http://www.texrenfest.com
> >
> > BUMMER, especially since it looks like
> >
>
> The term "bummer"
>
> http://www.wordreference.com/definition/bummer
>
> is kind of complicated. Is there a short-cut available (as a hitting
> description)?
it means the same thing as lousy.
Some english people say bum knee for when they have a bad knee.
They also refer to their backsides as bums.
So it has negative connotations.
In the US it has been used for homeless and vagrants.
And with the history in wikipedia, you should know now that when
something is a bummer, it probably made you sad or you did not enjoy
it.
For instance, if I hated hot weather, and I said that my employer was
sending me to Mississippi in July.
YOu could commiserate with me and say -- bummer!
That's most common I believe
>
> > I will have to do a three day weekend if I wish to enjoy.
> >
>
> Wow, I wish you a lot of fun! :-))
fun - that's not a bummer. what the bummer part is -- that I can't
take time off to do this. so -- bummer
>
> >
> > Another thing I want to try a bit more of is Irish pubs.
> > RiRA I am going to
> > try to get there in the next two weeks. There is a nice one in
> > Bethesda and they will be opening a new one in clarendon soon too.
> > There is certainly the beer commonality there
> >
>
> You may have a look at the Irish beer talk
>
> http://groups.google.de/group/soc.culture.greek/msg/c9389a591a38a936
>
> I had with Lester. I did not like the "Stout" (too bitter); but I
> enjoyed e.g. the Murphy's Red.
I have a distinct preference for ciders. on tap
>
> > > "Texas Renaissance Festival" ...?
> >
> > there is one here in Maryland.
> >
> > here's the link with some fine photos. it's a permanent site with
> > permanent buildings and the festival every weekend in late summer
> > through fall.
> >
> > http://dwdewolfe.com/gallery/MDRenFaire03
> >
>
> Yeah, that's nice and interesting.
> It appears that, in the US, "renaissance" stands for all kind of
> historic outfits and arrangements.
Renaissance generally refers to the British time period when Henry VIII
was around, and some time before and some time after,
There is a society in the US called society for creative anachronism.
SCA. These organizations often organized these renaissance festivals.
Most participants come in costumes and try to speak as if they really
are in the day.
But, because they want tolerance for their hobby, they are certainly
tolerant of other peoples interest in other time periods.
FOr instance, if I came dressed as an elf from another dimension, no
one would be bothered.
In spite of the fact that participants are varied in time periods, the
formal shows are very time specific, with play acting of Henry VIII
life -- skits presented in chronological fashion. There are also live
jousts.
I don't personally have an interest in history such that I would dwell
on any of this, but I do enjoy going to the festival because it is a
nice day outdoors with very brief exposure to latrines, and the food
and shows are fun, and don't require any real expertise in history to
enjoy.
ok, i will have a mass of cider.
mk5000
"for advertising our family business. we weld barbecue grills in our
shop"--an amish person talking about his website
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
> Sorry, Marika, I used some sort of a "deviation" to get closer to
> the point that I did not _yet_ - thus far - quite fully "gather".
that's ok, today I want to be all of the land down under.
> > I will currently assert that I am acting just like Wyoming, USA.
> >
>
> Maybe, a little bit like "cold" respectively "fierce"?
no, large and vacant
>
> > but tomorrow I may go back to mimicking Washington DC.
> >
>
> Maybe, being "very busy" and "sophisticated"?
no, self important
>
> > things are going well with my being Washington, so perhaps I shouldn't
> > change my prototype.
> >
>
> Yeah, that's a positive-minded self-consciousness.
>
>
> > i don't know what I will be returning to in the
> > foreseeable future?
> >
>
> I'll be waiting to get eventually aware of it...
>
>
> > >I prefer
> > > sailing and surfing, tho.
> >
> > pick a different city to emulate that you like better
> > Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>
> I won't do that in any city;
> only in the wide-open Mediterranean Sea or large bay areas...
>
good choice good choise. Emulating the mediterranean.
mk5000
"the guys get really excited when I mention them"--prakash
gogu
news:1127198728.1...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> gogu wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
> [Gogu's Budapest photos]
>> > I'll be back from a travel in a couple of days.
>> > But, the posting at my end won't work either, as it is technically
>> > not possible to get jpg- or gif-formats directly into a Google posting.
>> > I suggest that you rather add them to your gallery (as sig.). Thus,
>> > anyone could easily view 'em, then.
>> OK, but first I must make some time and find them ;-)
> ACK, of course.
FOUND THEM :-)
>> My nephew came to visit me this Saturday and my time is limited right
>> now...
>> As soon as I find them I'll put them on-line as you suggested.
> That's great; we will be awaiting them, there...
He's living tomorrow for Athens, I am going scan and put them on-line
tomorrow.
--
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in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
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gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Indeed!
>> I am also using it in the pizza I make at home!
>> Quatro formaggi!
> Yes, that's quite tasty.
> What three other cheeses are you (usually) taking for that "4 cheeses
> pizza"?
Well, I usually combine Roquefort, Parmigiano Reggiano, and a couple of
yellow Greek cheeses I like.
> [Sushi]
>
> Btw, some Germans - and I guess as well some Europeans as some US
> citizens - like the Japanese "sushi" (specially done
> "fish"-finger-food). Is it also liked in Greece?
Yes it is, it's in "mode" in the last 4 or 5 years but I don't like it.
I don't like fish in general, go figure raw...
I only eat mussels and octopus.
>> >Yeah, there are many types around.
>> >During my stay in Hungary, we had daily luncheons and dinners in the
>> >most famous places in Budapest and its surroundings - always with
>> >live music and in the evenings with some dance shows. We got all sorts
>> >of wines along with the meals - _open_, though. Thus, I did not care
>> >about their names and special origins. But it was - altogether - a
>> >great delight.
>> ;-)
>> Indeed ;-)
> After the dinners with indigenous music and dance shows I used to check
> out the more modern forms of the Budapest night life ('erotic
> dance' discos and bars, etc ...).
Hehehehe :-)
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puttane! F.d.A
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gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>> > marika wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> Vienna calls itself "little Paris"
>> > Many cities like St. Petersburg in Russia or Bamberg in Germany, etc,
>> > call themselves "little Venice".
>> Bucharest was also called little Paris.
>> And maybe more rightfully from any other capital as it has its own
>> ... Arc de Triumph !!!
> Yes, from what I saw - thus far - in TV about Bucharest, that appears
> to be true.
Unfortunately there is much corruption and people in general are not doing
well...
Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing have
changed for the average Romanian...
Richer people are becoming more reach, poor people become more poor...
It's a pity because it's a nice country with generally nice people.
There is a local joke though: "... it's a nice country, it's a pity it is
inhabit..." ;-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
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marika
gogu wrote:
>
>> Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing have
> changed for the average Romanian...
what's The weather like there now, has it been either cloudy or rainy,
or haven't you seen the sun in quite sometime.
> Richer people are becoming more reach, poor people become more poor...
> It's a pity because it's a nice country with generally nice people.
I have never been there. I have always been able to spell it though.
interesting quote i found in sci.archaelogy
mk5000
"I should point out also that Austria is more than a point of
admixture it has several nodal types which show regional spread and
links to greeks, etc. Also the czech and flemish show regional nodes.
There are probably nodes in france, should more intense study be
done, by and large however the french and german populations mimic
each other suggesting a holoculture in that basin NW of the
alps."--philip detiker
marika
gogu wrote:>
> Yes it is, it's in "mode" in the last 4 or 5 years but I don't like it.
> I don't like fish in general, go figure raw...
> I only eat mussels and octopus.
i like all of the above, even the snipped cheeses
mk5000
"When we confront adversities and tragedies, we need to look at the
many
different angles as it often changes to a positive aspect that comes
from
these tragedies. When we look at these things in these different
angles, we
grow and learn from this."--dalai lama
gogu
news:1127257759.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> gogu wrote:
>>
>>> Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing
>>> have
>> changed for the average Romanian...
> what's The weather like there now, has it been either cloudy or rainy,
> or haven't you seen the sun in quite sometime.
In Romania?
How should I know ?!
If you mean in Greece, it is raining right now :-(
But it was hot during the day and probably it will be hot again tomorrow...
--
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in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
marika
gogu wrote:
>
> In Romania?
> How should I know ?!
> If you mean in Greece, it is raining right now :-(
Works for me. I like rain. I'm working on getting the details for
somethng from an architect right now. She has it electronically and we
are trying to see if we can drop the tables on the drawing. you would
probably shine at this but I don't
> But it was hot during the day and probably it will be hot again tomorrow...
>
>
i like hot too
mk5000
"A russian friend is very fond of the old proverb:
"The tall blade of grass gets clipped"
The bragert attracts way too much attention to him(mainly)self.
My neighbors and coworkers have no idea that I am a closet
survivialist. "--rsw2000
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
[SUV]
> > Yeah, there is an example:
> >
> > http://www.4x4abc.com/ML320
> >
>
> I think my sister has that same car
>
She's probably liking it.
Americans do like that car brand.
Even Pink sang and showed in her party-smash-hit-music-video:
"... cruising in a Mercedes-Benz".
> > [Imaginary design firm]
> >
> > >
> > > I will have to let you know how some of my imaginary jewelry looks.
> > > .
> >
> > Is that second dot (after the full-stop) meant?
>
> the second dot was purely invisible to me till you pointed it out.
>
> you must have sharp sight
>
I thought you were making a joke. That's why I asked.
Just to be sure.
But now, I'm waiting for your letting me know, occasionally, some of
your imaginary jewelry looks.
> > The term "bummer"
> >
> > http://www.wordreference.com/definition/bummer
> >
> > is kind of complicated. Is there a short-cut available (as a hitting
> > description)?
>
> it means the same thing as lousy.
>
ACK, thanks, that makes it easy to keep it in my head.
> Some english people say bum knee for when they have a bad knee.
>
ACK.
> They also refer to their backsides as bums.
>
Or "booties" (in music-videos): shake it, pump it ...
> So it has negative connotations.
> In the US it has been used for homeless and vagrants.
>
That's interesting.
> And with the history in wikipedia, you should know now that when
> something is a bummer, it probably made you sad or you did not enjoy
> it.
>
OK.
> For instance, if I hated hot weather, and I said that my employer was
> sending me to Mississippi in July.
>
ACK.
> You could commiserate with me and say -- bummer!
> That's most common I believe
>
Thanks a lot, Marika, for those helpful examples and interpretations.
> >
> > > I will have to do a three day weekend if I wish to enjoy.
> > >
> >
> > Wow, I wish you a lot of fun! :-))
>
> fun - that's not a bummer. what the bummer part is -- that I can't
> take time off to do this. so -- bummer
>
Yeah, that's quite a pity; - really lousy ... --> bummer.
[Irish pub]
> > I had with Lester. I did not like the "Stout" (too bitter); but I
> > enjoyed e.g. the Murphy's Red.
>
> I have a distinct preference for ciders. on tap
>
Oh, first time, I heard that the Irish would have that. too. I knew it
mostly from Germany and France, thus far.
[Renaissance Faire]
>
> > > http://dwdewolfe.com/gallery/MDRenFaire03
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, that's nice and interesting.
> > It appears that, in the US, "renaissance" stands for all kind of
> > historic outfits and arrangements.
>
> Renaissance generally refers to the British time period when Henry VIII
> was around, and some time before and some time after,
>
> There is a society in the US called society for creative anachronism.
> SCA. These organizations often organized these renaissance festivals.
>
> Most participants come in costumes and try to speak as if they really
> are in the day.
>
> But, because they want tolerance for their hobby, they are certainly
> tolerant of other peoples interest in other time periods.
>
> For instance, if I came dressed as an elf from another dimension, no
> one would be bothered.
>
> In spite of the fact that participants are varied in time periods, the
> formal shows are very time specific, with play acting of Henry VIII
> life -- skits presented in chronological fashion. There are also live
> jousts.
>
> I don't personally have an interest in history such that I would dwell
> on any of this, but I do enjoy going to the festival because it is a
> nice day outdoors with very brief exposure to latrines, and the food
> and shows are fun, and don't require any real expertise in history to
> enjoy.
>
That's a very profound description. Thank you very much!
I guess it is somehow a little bit like "Ritterfestspiele"
(knights' festivals) in Germany and other European countries.
...
[Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany)]
>
[...]
> > At the Munich Oktoberfest they are using 'a mass[*] or more' as
> > sort of "screw drivers".
> >
> > *] One litre of beer in a glass is a "Maß".
>
> ok, i will have a mass of cider.
>
Prost! Santé!
Here you may see something on the Dirndln (plural of dirndl). Btw, in
Bavaria, Dirndl does not only mean the special skirt, moreover, a
Bavarian girl or young woman is generally called Dirndl, too.
http://bunte.t-online.de/c/54/80/25/5480256.html
"Wiesn" (Wiese = field) is the place within Munich of the
Oktoberfest's happening.
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
[mimicking Australia]
Maybe, wide and hot?
[acting just like Wyoming, USA]
> > >
> >
> > Maybe, a little bit like "cold" respectively "fierce"?
>
> no, large and vacant
>
ACK.
>
> > > but tomorrow I may go back to mimicking Washington DC.
> > >
> >
> > Maybe, being "very busy" and "sophisticated"?
>
> no, self important
>
I like that one!
Congratulations!
...
> > > >I prefer sailing and surfing, tho.
> > >
> > > pick a different city to emulate that you like better
> > > Any leads would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> >
> > I won't do that in any city;
> > only in the wide-open Mediterranean Sea or large bay areas...
> >
>
> good choice good choise. Emulating the mediterranean.
>
Hhhmmmm.
>
> "the guys get really excited when I mention them"-prakash
>
Yep!
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > [Gogu's Budapest photos]
>
> FOUND THEM :-)
>
Great :-)
>
> >> My nephew came to visit me this Saturday ...
> He's living tomorrow for Athens, I am going scan and put them on-line
> tomorrow.
>
ACK. I'm curious.
>
CU, Frank
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >> I am also using it in the pizza I make at home!
> >> Quatro formaggi!
>
>
> > Yes, that's quite tasty.
> > What three other cheeses are you (usually) taking for that "4 cheeses
> > pizza"?
>
> Well, I usually combine Roquefort, Parmigiano Reggiano, and a couple of
> yellow Greek cheeses I like.
>
Yes. Thanks for the recipe!
> > [Sushi]
> >
> > Btw, some Germans - and I guess as well some Europeans as some US
> > citizens - like the Japanese "sushi" (specially done
> > "fish"-finger-food). Is it also liked in Greece?
>
> Yes it is, it's in "mode" in the last 4 or 5 years but I don't like it.
> I don't like fish in general, go figure raw...
> I only eat mussels and octopus.
>
ACK.
> > ... Budapest's night-life ...
>
> Hehehehe :-)
>
--> :-)
>
CU, Frank
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> >> Bucharest was also called little Paris.
> >> And maybe more rightfully from any other capital as it has its own
> >> ... Arc de Triumph !!!
>
>
> > Yes, from what I saw - thus far - in TV about Bucharest, that appears
> > to be true.
>
> Unfortunately there is much corruption and people in general are not doing
> well...
> Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing have
> changed for the average Romanian...
> Richer people are becoming more reach, poor people become more poor...
>
Maybe, as Marika would say: ... BUMMER.
> It's a pity because it's a nice country with generally nice people.
> There is a local joke though: "... it's a nice country, it's a pity it is
> inhabit..." ;-)
>
Hm ;-)
gogu
Some of them are now on-line Frank, you can find them at:
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
I'll add more later.
Hope you enjoy them :-)
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Unfortunately there is much corruption and people in general are not
>> doing
>> well...
>> Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing
>> have
>> changed for the average Romanian...
>> Richer people are becoming more reach, poor people become more poor...
> Maybe, as Marika would say: ... BUMMER.
Indeed...
It seems there are no good politicians in that country...
>> It's a pity because it's a nice country with generally nice people.
>> There is a local joke though: "... it's a nice country, it's a pity it is
>> inhabit..." ;-)
> Hm ;-)
Yeah, it's a way for the Romanians to be sarcastic with themselves :-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
marika
gogu wrote:>
>
> Some of them are now on-line Frank, you can find them at:
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
> I'll add more later.
>
these are wonderful. your children are also beautiful.
I like Hamamet as I can REALLY see the contrast in that photo,
mk5000
"But don't change a hair for me
Not if you care for me
Stay little Valentine stay
Each day is Valentine's day!"
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> Maybe, wide and hot?
well "great down under" just says it all
mk5000
"It would bore me terrifically too
But I get a kick out of you
I get a kick every time I see you
standing there before me"
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> But now, I'm waiting for your letting me know, occasionally, some of
> your imaginary jewelry looks.
boy I cannot even begin to explain how busy I am.
i made some yesterday for lester's poem in the ballad of hasty pudding
see inside 5 carats, hahaha
<<<<<
> I have seen the light,
After 9 weeks, I finally got the tanzanite ring back. It's very nice. I
was taking garden photos so decided to take one of the ring . Not the
best picture in the world, has too much shadow in it, I know.
> The screams of the invisible,
I need a digital camera. It's on a ceramic white hand that's about
2/3 the size of a human hand, so it looks bigger than in real life.
> I have smelled the flavors,
> The flavors that flow though syrup.
> Drip Drip Drip.
> You can follow the line
Thetop is a semi-bezel piece, and the remaining 2 sides are pronged. I
like
it. (It's a pinky ring.)
>>>>>
The deadline for our work is
coming and we are NOT ready
>
>
> [Irish pub]
>
> > > I had with Lester. I did not like the "Stout" (too bitter); but I
> > > enjoyed e.g. the Murphy's Red.
> >
> > I have a distinct preference for ciders. on tap
> >
>
> Oh, first time, I heard that the Irish would have that. too. I knew it
> mostly from Germany and France, thus far.
Ciders in Germany. I have never seen any but those from the British
isle. Please tell me more. When I say cider, I am referencing a
bubbly alcoholic fruit drink, usually apple, sometimes pear or berry.
Is this the same thing in France and Germany?
yep ritter, exactly!
A plus.
>
> ...
>
> [Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany)]
> >
> [...]
> > > At the Munich Oktoberfest they are using 'a mass[*] or more' as
> > > sort of "screw drivers".
> > >
> > > *] One litre of beer in a glass is a "Maß".
> >
> > ok, i will have a mass of cider.
> >
>
> Prost! Santé!
>
> Here you may see something on the Dirndln (plural of dirndl). Btw, in
> Bavaria, Dirndl does not only mean the special skirt, moreover, a
> Bavarian girl or young woman is generally called Dirndl, too.
>
> http://bunte.t-online.de/c/54/80/25/5480256.html
Really! hgw interesting.
is dirndl the style of the clothing or the fabric itself?
An ikea piece of furniture in dirndln would appeal to me
>
> "Wiesn" (Wiese = field) is the place within Munich of the
> Oktoberfest's happening.
>
a nice place to have lunch, these wiesens
mk5000
"You flew away and time grew cold
Where is that star that shone so bright
Ages ago last night?
To think that spring had depended
On merely this"--last night when we were young, H. Arlen, E.Y. Harburg
gogu
news:1127338421....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> gogu wrote:>
>>
>> Some of them are now on-line Frank, you can find them at:
>> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
>> I'll add more later.
> these are wonderful.
Is the first picture the one you were referring to in a previous posting
(statue, etc) ?...
>your children are also beautiful.
Thanks Marika :-)
They are a blessing from G-d !
> I like Hamamet as I can REALLY see the contrast in that photo,
:-)
But it really is a nice place to have a vacation.
Maybe one of the best seas I've ever seen...
PS
I've just added a couple more Budapest photos, some of them been
spectacular night shots :-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > gogu wrote:
> >> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
[Gogu's Budapest photos]
>
>
Oh yeah, Gogu, I really did :-)
I saw all the twelve, this morning.
I remember from my stay particularly
1, 2 - 4_Kings
3, 4, 5 - Chain Bridge
7 - Parliament
>From the boat's trip at night (as reported):
7 - National Theatre
8 - Parliament
I'm amazed that you had photographed (12) a Venetian-style villa.
I did not particularly notice that-one at my stay. Is it the only-one
in Budapest, or are there yet even some more around?
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
[Romania]
> >> Unfortunately there is much corruption and people in general are not
> >> doing
> >> well...
> >> Corrupted politicians have replaced the commies, so practically nothing
> >> have
> >> changed for the average Romanian...
> >> Richer people are becoming more reach, poor people become more poor...
>
>
> > Maybe, as Marika would say: ... BUMMER.
>
> Indeed...
> It seems there are no good politicians in that country...
>
> >> It's a pity because it's a nice country with generally nice people.
> >> There is a local joke though: "... it's a nice country, it's a pity it is
> >> inhabit..." ;-)
>
>
> > Hm ;-)
>
> Yeah, it's a way for the Romanians to be sarcastic with themselves :-)
[Germany]
We had those lousy (bummed) times, too, _formerly_ as you know.
Right now, as a result of the election on 18th September, there is no
reasonable political coalition possible at the Bundestag (similar to
congress). First time in history, a women - Angela Merkel - (CDU -
conservatives) competes against the present chancellor Gerhard (Gerd)
Schroeder (SPD - democrats). It will require a lot of already started
and forthcoming negotiations and tricks for Gerd (and his SPD-crew) at
trying to remain in the chancellor's office.
>
CU, Frank
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Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
[... mimicking Australia]
> > Maybe, wide and hot?
>
> well "great down under" just says it all
>
I love that mimicking-play! :-)
>
>
[... mimicking Japan]
Maybe "busy and sophisticated"?
>
> "It would bore me terrifically too
> But I get a kick out of you
> I get a kick every time I see you
> standing there before me"
>
-- by Marika?
That's a real *great* poem! :-)
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
> > But now, I'm waiting for your letting me know, occasionally, some of
> > your imaginary jewelry looks.
>
> i made some yesterday for lester's poem in the ballad of hasty pudding
>
> see inside 5 carats, hahaha
>
> <<<<<
Is it the one I just referred to as being "great" in the posting
ahead?
-<>-
> > I have seen the light,
>
> After 9 weeks, I finally got the tanzanite ring back. It's very nice. I
>
> was taking garden photos so decided to take one of the ring. Not the
> best picture in the world, has too much shadow in it, I know.
>
> > The screams of the invisible,
>
> I need a digital camera. It's on a ceramic white hand that's about
> 2/3 the size of a human hand, so it looks bigger than in real life.
>
> > I have smelled the flavors,
> > The flavors that flow though syrup.
> > Drip Drip Drip.
> > You can follow the line
>
>
> The top is a semi-bezel piece, and the remaining 2 sides are pronged. I
> like
> it. (It's a pinky ring.)
>
> >>>>>
>From the sign above [ -<>- ] onward I do _not_ really understand
what's being meant or what this [>>] refers to, tho. - ?
...
> >
> > Yeah, that's quite a pity; - really lousy ... --> bummer.
>
> The deadline for our work is
> coming, and we are NOT ready
>
If not too secret, what kind of a work is currently in process?
[Cider]
> > Oh, first time, I heard that the Irish would have that. too. I knew it
> > mostly from Germany and France, thus far.
>
> Ciders in Germany. I have never seen any but those from the British
> isle. Please tell me more. When I say cider, I am referencing a
> bubbly alcoholic fruit drink, usually apple, sometimes pear or berry.
> Is this the same thing in France and Germany?
>
I remember now that I even had one in Cuernavaca (Mexico), too.
[Cidre (French)]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidre
Yeah, the real "cidre" is from France and it is "moussant".
In Germany we drink either the freshly pressed apple juice or the
biologically altered alcoholic form (called Apfelwein). At around Lake
Constance we have it mostly from apples and pears. Another term for it
is "Most" or (phonetically) "Moscht". The Lindau (B.)
inhabitants - around the island - are jokingly referred to as
"Moscht-Köpf" (--> apple-wine-heads). At around Frankfurt it is
called "Äppelwoi" (Apfelwein) (apple-wine) (usually without
pears).
[Renaissance Faires]
> > >
[...]
> > That's a very profound description. Thank you very much!
> > I guess it is somehow a little bit like "Ritterfestspiele"
> > (knights' festivals) in Germany and other European countries.
>
> yep ritter, exactly!
> A plus.
>
ACK :-)
[Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany)]
>
> >
> > Here you may see something on the Dirndln (plural of dirndl). Btw, in
> > Bavaria, Dirndl does not only mean the special skirt, moreover, a
> > Bavarian girl or young woman is generally called Dirndl, too.
> >
> > http://bunte.t-online.de/c/54/80/25/5480256.html
>
>
> Really! hgw interesting.
> is dirndl the style of the clothing or the fabric itself?
>
It's the style. The décolleté, the short puff sleeves, and it is
wide-swinging around the legs (about knee length). Preferred colors:
light red and light blue - combined with white elements.
> An ikea piece of furniture in dirndln would appeal to me
>
Good idea! Not yet seen one. Maybe you can invent it...
>
> >
> > "Wiesn" (Wiese = field) is the place within Munich of the
> > Oktoberfest's happening.
> >
>
> a nice place to have lunch, these wiesens
>
A "Weißwurst" and a "Maß" would be a "must" :-)
[Quote]
>
> "You flew away and time grew cold
> Where is that star that shone so bright
> Ages ago last night?
> To think that spring had depended
> On merely this"--last night when we were young, H. Arlen, E.Y. Harburg
>
Rather romantic...
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> > boy, I cannot even begin to explain how busy I am.
> > i made some yesterday for lester's poem in the ballad of hasty pudding
> >
> > see inside 5 carats, hahaha
> >
> > <<<<<
>
> Is it the one I just referred to as being "great" in the posting
> ahead?
no, look at the hasty pudding thread in aullm
I clipped and pasted it for you inside these symbols <<<<< >>>>>
These things are called angle brackets.
left and right angle brackets.
They usually signify the inclusion of text.
If you stand them on their heads ^^^^^ they are called carets. Jewels
are measured in carats. The larger the carat weight the more valuable
the stone. Thus, I was including my imaginary jewelry in very valuable
carats that were lying down on the job.
>
>
> -<>-
but now YOU made a diamond ring it looks like to me? Because you made
that drawing not me.
When a stone is shaped like that <> it can be called diamond shape,
marquise cut, and sometimes, depending on the facet quality emerald
cut, princess cut or octagon cut (there would be four more facets
inside of the square making it technically 8 sided)
>
> > > I have seen the light,
> >
> > After 9 weeks, I finally got the tanzanite ring back. It's very nice. I
> >
> > was taking garden photos so decided to take one of the ring. Not the
> > best picture in the world, has too much shadow in it, I know.
> >
> > > The screams of the invisible,
> >
> > I need a digital camera. It's on a ceramic white hand that's about
> > 2/3 the size of a human hand, so it looks bigger than in real life.
> >
> > > I have smelled the flavors,
> > > The flavors that flow though syrup.
> > > Drip Drip Drip.
> > > You can follow the line
> >
> >
> > The top is a semi-bezel piece, and the remaining 2 sides are pronged. I
> > like
> > it. (It's a pinky ring.)
> >
> > >>>>>
>
> >From the sign above [ -<>- ] onward I do _not_ really understand
> what's being meant or what this [>>] refers to, tho. - ?
>
> ...
>
> > >
> > > Yeah, that's quite a pity; - really lousy ... --> bummer.
> >
> > The deadline for our work is
> > coming, and we are NOT ready
> >
>
> If not too secret, what kind of a work is currently in process?
although not secret, and could be shared person to person, it is
inappropriate and certainly too boring to be shared on google.
The essence is that we must prepare for the budget process. The many
tasks that I work on change moment to moment, but they all support the
budget process in one way or another.
>
> [Cider]
>
> > > Oh, first time, I heard that the Irish would have that. too. I knew it
> > > mostly from Germany and France, thus far.
> >
> > Ciders in Germany. I have never seen any but those from the British
> > isle. Please tell me more. When I say cider, I am referencing a
> > bubbly alcoholic fruit drink, usually apple, sometimes pear or berry.
> > Is this the same thing in France and Germany?
> >
>
> I remember now that I even had one in Cuernavaca (Mexico), too.
>
> [Cidre (French)]
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cidre
>
> Yeah, the real "cidre" is from France and it is "moussant".
Wow, it gives me a chance to visit the universe looking for the perfect
cidre
>
> In Germany we drink either the freshly pressed apple juice or the
> biologically altered alcoholic form (called Apfelwein). At around Lake
> Constance we have it mostly from apples and pears. Another term for it
> is "Most" or (phonetically) "Moscht". The Lindau (B.)
> inhabitants - around the island - are jokingly referred to as
> "Moscht-Köpf" (--> apple-wine-heads). At around Frankfurt it is
> called "Äppelwoi" (Apfelwein) (apple-wine) (usually without
> pears).
>
> [Renaissance Faires]
> > > >
>
when you have a moment, check out the thread in AULLM that says MD
quattro for an account of a real live person who performs at the
Maryland festival I attended. Check out her masks website too.
> [...]
>
> > > That's a very profound description. Thank you very much!
> > > I guess it is somehow a little bit like "Ritterfestspiele"
> > > (knights' festivals) in Germany and other European countries.
> >
> > yep ritter, exactly!
> > A plus.
> >
>
> ACK :-)
>
> [Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany)]
> >
> > >
> > > Here you may see something on the Dirndln (plural of dirndl). Btw, in
> > > Bavaria, Dirndl does not only mean the special skirt, moreover, a
> > > Bavarian girl or young woman is generally called Dirndl, too.
> > >
> > > http://bunte.t-online.de/c/54/80/25/5480256.html
> >
> >
> > Really! hgw interesting.
> > is dirndl the style of the clothing or the fabric itself?
> >
>
> It's the style. The décolleté, the short puff sleeves, and it is
> wide-swinging around the legs (about knee length). Preferred colors:
> light red and light blue - combined with white elements.
>
> > An ikea piece of furniture in dirndln would appeal to me
> >
>
> Good idea! Not yet seen one. Maybe you can invent it...
I will add it to my ever burgeoning imaginary house of design.
>
> >
> > >
> > > "Wiesn" (Wiese = field) is the place within Munich of the
> > > Oktoberfest's happening.
> > >
> >
> > a nice place to have lunch, these wiesens
> >
>
> A "Weißwurst" and a "Maß" would be a "must" :-)
or a MOST as I have just learned
eating weiswurst in a wiesen too funny
mk5000
"when someone forsakes his right to keep a fish and returns it to the
lake a transformation takes place in his heart"--ray scott
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> -- by Marika?
>
> That's a real *great* poem! :-)
>
>
marika doesn't write poetry
that was a clip from the Cole Porter song
I get a kick out of you
but I forgot the attribution
mk5000
"A helluva story." Ray Scott, founder of BASS
marika
gogu wrote:>
> Is the first picture the one you were referring to in a previous posting
> (statue, etc) ?...
yes Gogu that is exactly the statue. Thanks
I will have to say that (without getting into historical issues) I
think that is one of the nicest monuments I have seen, even those here
in DC which Lester and I have visited on more than one occasion
>
> >your children are also beautiful.
>
> Thanks Marika :-)
> They are a blessing from G-d !
>
>
> > I like Hamamet as I can REALLY see the contrast in that photo,
>
> :-)
> But it really is a nice place to have a vacation.
> Maybe one of the best seas I've ever seen...
really?
It is now on my list
i am including at the end of this post a nonarchitecture but a european
design issue
that I think is just fascinating
mk5000
gogu
> gogu wrote:
> [Gogu's Budapest photos]
>>
>>
>> Some of them are now on-line, Frank, you can find them at:
>> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
>> I'll add more later.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy them :-)
> Oh yeah, Gogu, I really did :-)
> I saw all the twelve, this morning.
>
> I remember from my stay particularly
> 1, 2 - 4_Kings
> 3, 4, 5 - Chain Bridge
> 7 - Parliament
>
>
>>From the boat's trip at night (as reported):
> 7 - National Theatre
> 8 - Parliament
I am glade you liked them :-)
> I'm amazed that you had photographed (12) a Venetian-style villa.
> I did not particularly notice that-one at my stay. Is it the only-one
> in Budapest, or are there yet even some more around?
Well, I couldn't possibly see every street of Budapest but as far as I
remember that was the only one.
At first glance I thought it was some eclecticist building or a "lighter"
gothic/baroque one but after farther inspection I saw it had many Venetian
elements.
It is strange that even in Bucharest there is a similar building, much lower
though, 2 or 3 levels...
I suppose that some Austro-Hungarian and Romanian merchants who lived for
some time in Venice when they returned to their country they wanted to have
a
"memento" from Venice :-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
>>
>
gogu
> gogu wrote:
> [Germany]
>
> We had those lousy (bummed) times, too, _formerly_ as you know.
Yes, unfortunately...
> Right now, as a result of the election on 18th September, there is no
> reasonable political coalition possible at the Bundestag (similar to
> congress). First time in history, a women - Angela Merkel - (CDU -
> conservatives) competes against the present chancellor Gerhard (Gerd)
> Schroeder (SPD - democrats). It will require a lot of already started
> and forthcoming negotiations and tricks for Gerd (and his SPD-crew) at
> trying to remain in the chancellor's office.
I am not voting for the conservative party here in Greece but it's the first
time I want to see a CDU leader -Merkel- forming a government ;-)
But if I am not mistaken -and speaking technically and without considering
our particular political beliefs- I think that Gerd was not so good for the
Germans in what regards unemployment.
So I would expect Merkel to win with a major majority but obviously her lack
of rhetoric skills cost her...
And I thought Germans were rational people, not influenced by rhetoric ;-)
I thought that was a "privilege" of us, Mediterraneans ;-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
gogu
>
> gogu wrote:>
>> Is the first picture the one you were referring to in a previous posting
>> (statue, etc) ?...
>
> yes Gogu that is exactly the statue. Thanks
I knew it !
> I will have to say that (without getting into historical issues) I
> think that is one of the nicest monuments I have seen, even those here
> in DC which Lester and I have visited on more than one occasion
That place is really big for Europe and I mostly like that there you can
find the National Museum, the National Library and that huge park !
>> > I like Hamamet as I can REALLY see the contrast in that photo,
>> :-)
>> But it really is a nice place to have a vacation.
>> Maybe one of the best seas I've ever seen...
> really?
> It is now on my list
Yes, they have very nice shores with fine golden sand, the water is shallow
and always very warm, you think you are entering your house's bath !
You can take many optional excursions, you can visit Carthago, the
troglodyte community of Matmata, the island of the Lotus eaters, have a
travel by jeep in the desert and stay in luxury hotels in the middle of
nowhere, etc, etc, etc...
People are nice and helpful, life is quite cheap although not as cheap as 10
years ago.
Overall a nice place to spend 2 or 3 weeks, I've been there twice and would
gladly go for a third time !
> i am including at the end of this post a nonarchitecture but a european
> design issue
> that I think is just fascinating
>
> mk5000
>
> http://www.departures.com/fa/fa_0903_shoes.html
You girls all have a fetish with shoes :-))))
My wife bought today a pair of shoes for ... 385 euros !!!
Maybe not at the range of $740-$1,250 but still not cheap.
Her excuse: we are going to christen our daughter, I must be elegant ;-)
I hate you girls when you come up with such sentimental blackmails ;-)))
gogu
Frank Kalder wrote:
>If you stand them on their heads ^^^^^ they are called carets. Jewels
>are measured in carats. The larger the carat weight the more valuable
>the stone. Thus, I was including my imaginary jewelry in very valuable
>carats that were lying down on the job.
LOL
Not only weight (=carats) count in precious stones Marika, but all the 4
C's:
Carat, Color, Cut and Clarity ;-)
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
Hi Marika,
I just noticed in the other posting that you are unfortunately _not_
making poetry.
>
> ... look at the hasty pudding thread in aullm
> I clipped and pasted it for you inside these symbols <<<<< >>>>>
>
Yes, I've looked at that one, now.
If I insert (include) something from another source (thread or website)
I usually indicate the source's title or provide the link so that
anyone can easily look up there for more background, i.e. maybe a
better or complete understanding of the entire context.
> These things are called angle brackets.
> left and right angle brackets.
> They usually signify the inclusion of text.
>
ACK.
> If you stand them on their heads ^^^^^ they are called carets. Jewels
> are measured in carats. The larger the carat weight the more valuable
> the stone. Thus, I was including my imaginary jewelry in very valuable
> carats that were lying down on the job.
>
I see; - and I saw supplementary Gogu's remark on the so-called 4 Cs.
> >
> > -<>-
>
> but now YOU made a diamond ring it looks like to me? Because you made
> that drawing not me.
>
Oh, I was perhaps a __.moufle.
I just made that sign as sort of a signal and did not think about what
it could probably mean.
> When a stone is shaped like that <> it can be called diamond shape,
> marquise cut, and sometimes, depending on the facet quality emerald
> cut, princess cut or octagon cut (there would be four more facets
> inside of the square making it technically 8 sided)
>
Thank you for the explication! That's very interesting to know.
[...]
> > If not too secret, what kind of a work is currently in process?
>
> although not secret, and could be shared person to person, it is
> inappropriate and certainly too boring to be shared on google.
> The essence is that we must prepare for the budget process. The many
> tasks that I work on change moment to moment, but they all support the
> budget process in one way or another.
>
Yes, I know that's the usual yearly threat in all companies. The
larger a globally operating corporation is - the more complex and time
consuming is the whole budget process, i.e. the figures' compiling
and its presentations, the relevant discussions and the changes that
usually have to be made - forth and back; and so on.
>
[Renaissance Faires]
>
> >
>
> when you have a moment, check out the thread in AULLM that says MD
> quattro for an account of a real live person who performs at the
> Maryland festival I attended. Check out her masks website too.
>
I did only find this one: "Md. Part Quatro...Yeah, It's Long, What of
It?" Maybe you'd have a link so that I might be able to get to the
'masks website' suggested.
> >
> > [Cider or French cidre]
> > Yeah, the real "cidre" is from France and it is "moussant".
>
> Wow, it gives me a chance to visit the universe looking for the perfect
> cidre
>
--> :-)
[...]
> > [Oktoberfest in Munich (Germany)]
>
> > > An ikea piece of furniture in dirndln would appeal to me
> > >
> >
> > Good idea! Not yet seen one. Maybe you can invent it...
>
> I will add it to my ever burgeoning imaginary house of design.
>
Yeah :-)
> > > a nice place to have lunch, these wiesens
> > >
> >
> > A "Weißwurst" and a "Maß" would be a "must" :-)
>
> or a MOST as I have just learned
>
I suspect they're selling beer - in form of a "Maß" - only.
> eating weiswurst in a wiesen too funny
>
The (cooked) "Weißwurst" is THE Munich's foremost specialty -
as well on the "Wiesn" (seasonally) as elsewhere in the Bavarian
capital (year-round).
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
[Germany - after election]
Hi Gogu,
thanks for your remarks at the other posting on the current German
chancellorship battle.
Well, Gerd has made it _not_ better as far as unemployment is concerned
(since 1998). But now, the Reds (SPD) and the Greens - in the German
Government - are history. Angie's Blacks (CDU together with the
Bavarian CSU (Edmund Stoiber)) and the Yellows (FDP) did not get a
majority (at the 18th Sept. election), either. Thus, no real
fundamental political change is possible.
Gerd is the one who had the guts to get a law passed at the Bundestag
(like Congress) and at the Bundesrat (like Senate - dominated by the
Blacks) that a major 'Reform' could be effected as of 1st January
2005. Of course, in the beginning there are many complaints and issues
to be adjusted. He - as the responsible politician - took the
blame; - but he wants now, forthcoming, to be the leader (as the
chancellor) in this huge reform process that has to be followed-up to
by further legal and administrative measures.
The most likely is that only a Grand Coalition (Reds & Blacks) will be
a political choice, at the time being (due to the unsatisfying
election's results). The German people are, at large, by far _not_
that rational (in elections!) as might be supposed from an
internationally oriented viewpoint.
[Gogu's Budapest photos]
>
> I am glad you liked them :-)
>
Is Marika referring to the 4_Kings monument, i.e. especially to the
angel on top of the high column?
> > I'm amazed that you had photographed (12) a Venetian-style villa.
> > I did not particularly notice that-one at my stay. Is it the only-one
> > in Budapest, or are there yet even some more around?
>
> Well, I couldn't possibly see every street of Budapest but as far as I
> remember that was the only one.
> At first glance I thought it was some eclecticist building or a "lighter"
> gothic/baroque one but after farther inspection I saw it had many Venetian
> elements.
> It is strange that even in Bucharest there is a similar building, much lower
> though, 2 or 3 levels...
> I suppose that some Austro-Hungarian and Romanian merchants who lived for
> some time in Venice when they returned to their country they wanted to have
> a
> "memento" from Venice :-)
>
Yes, that seems to be a good explanation how it might have happened.
[Venice]
Btw, as you may have already seen it, I had recently discovered a
website
http://www.jc-r.net/venezia/palazzi/indexd.html
that lists (with photos) all the 'palazzi' in Venice which are
built on stilts.
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> Yes, I've looked at that one, now.
> If I insert (include) something from another source (thread or website)
> I usually indicate the source's title or provide the link so that
> anyone can easily look up there for more background, i.e. maybe a
> better or complete understanding of the entire context.
>
a performer's account of her day at the Maryland Renfaire (apparently
same day I was there)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fairs.renaissance/msg/a11e53af970673fc?dmode=source&hl=en
Link to that performer's website, embedded in her signature at the
bottom of previous link, re commedia dell'arte
a person's response to my soliciting information as to why the word
renaissance has a different meaning in different countries
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fairs.renaissance/msg/c2b6eb75134fceb6?dmode=source&hl=en
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
>
> same day I was there)
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fairs.renaissance/msg/a11e53af970673fc?dmode=source&hl=en
Thanks, Marika, for this link above and for the others below!
> Link to that performer's website, embedded in her signature at the
> bottom of previous link, re commedia dell'arte
>
> www.taskmaskers.com
Now, I looked at the masks
http://www.taskmaskers.com/maskphotos.html
as you recommended. They are very nice.
Talking about masks, I'm also thinking of the Venetian ones, e.g.:
>
>
The "Perchten" masks (in some parts of Austria, particularly at the
Hofgastein / Badgastein valley)
may be already known to Gogu (?).
At Taskmaskers.com the "Pecorino Theatro Romano" is called "the
Cheesy Theater" - a two-to-three person performing troupe which focuses
on early Commedia dell' Arte. That's quite amusing, I'd guess.
>
> a person's response to my soliciting information as to why the word
> renaissance has a different meaning in different countries
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fairs.renaissance/msg/c2b6eb75134fceb6?dmode=source&hl=en
-----
> marika wrote:
> > One thing that the folks there wanted to know (and I am not a good
> > enough historian to answer this) is why the renaissance is defined
> > somewhat differently in US/UK versus say France and Germany
>
> Because it didn't happen all over Europe at the same time. C. S. Lewis
> even denied that there ever had been a Renaissance in England, "or," he
> continued, "if it did, it had no importance."
-----
At the insert above, I suppose the replier's statement is true if
renaissance refers to basically architecture (as I stated in one my
postings, a couple of days ago).
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
That's quite amusing, I'd guess.
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:Cheesy
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:Cheesy
>
[... cheesy]
Oh, I see: BUMMER_!_ ;-)
Perhaps the adjective used for the dell' Arte "Pecorino" Theatre
(on their website) is not quite appropriate? Or is it in your opinion
just sort of stinky old stuff that they are playing there?
Btw, at our thread "Monitoring Times"
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/msg/abbd6da695dc3ef6
I used that adjective as well. I was not aware, at that time, of its
bummed quality.
When talking about various cheeses (their tastes and origins), I
thought it might be referred to as "cheesy stuff" or alike without
any bad associations. Is there no such second meaning?
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:>
> Oh, I see: BUMMER_!_ ;-)
>
> Perhaps the adjective used for the dell' Arte "Pecorino" Theatre
> (on their website) is not quite appropriate? Or is it in your opinion
> just sort of stinky old stuff that they are playing there?
You used it correctly. Either usage is valid.
>
> Btw, at our thread "Monitoring Times"
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/msg/abbd6da695dc3ef6
>
> I used that adjective as well. I was not aware, at that time, of its
> bummed quality.
>
> When talking about various cheeses (their tastes and origins), I
> thought it might be referred to as "cheesy stuff" or alike without
> any bad associations. Is there no such second meaning?
>
Teatro's usage is a "double meaning"
recall my description of catamoufle's similar purpose
http://groups.google.com/group/fr.lettres.langue.anglaise/msg/beab31c888ec8ad7?dmode=source&hl=en
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:>
>
[... cheesy]
>
> You used it correctly. Either usage is valid.
>
ACK.
>
> Teatro's usage is a "double meaning"
> recall my description of catomoufle's similar purpose
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/fr.lettres.langue.anglaise/msg/beab31c888ec8ad7?dmode=source&hl=en
ACK.
[Klitschko]
>From some source: <cit> Klitscko was knocked down twice in the fifth
round and once more in the 10th, but he threw twice as many punches as
his Nigerian opponent to get the nod on all three judges' scorecards.
[...] "It means a lot," Klitschko said at ringside after the fight.
"Now I'm number one (contender). "I can fight 12 rounds, no problem, as
you can see. I enjoyed the fight." </cit>
[O.C., California]
This is now a hit in German TV.
I've seen only the announcement ads.
I suppose O.C. stands for Orange County (Anaheim & Disneyland, within
the L.A. area). I was there formerly, too.
I had, years ago, seen the earlier parts of 'Beverly Hills 90210'
and later-on most parts of 'Melrose Place'. I guess 'O.C.,
California' is the same sort of stuff. Did you see that or parts of
it?
[Germany]
Gerd's position to stay as the Reds' chancellor (maybe for the
first half of the 4 years' legislative period) is gonna weakening
from day to day. The Blacks stand strongly behind Angie to win the
"power poker battle".
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >From some source: <cit> Klitscko was knocked down twice in the fifth
> round and once more in the 10th, but he threw twice as many punches as
> his Nigerian opponent to get the nod on all three judges' scorecards.
> [...] "It means a lot," Klitschko said at ringside after the fight.
> "Now I'm number one (contender). "I can fight 12 rounds, no problem, as
> you can see. I enjoyed the fight." </cit>
I missed the fight. I was out having a nice time at that moment in the
Mandarin Hotel in DC
>
> [O.C., California]
>
> This is now a hit in German TV.
> I've seen only the announcement ads.
I don't enjoy the show very much.
I do like Mischa Barton though
>
> I suppose O.C. stands for Orange County (Anaheim & Disneyland, within
> the L.A. area). I was there formerly, too.
OC does stand for Orange County
>
> I had, years ago, seen the earlier parts of 'Beverly Hills 90210'
> and later-on most parts of 'Melrose Place'. I guess 'O.C.,
> California' is the same sort of stuff. Did you see that or parts of
> it?
>
> [Germany]
>
> Gerd's position to stay as the Reds' chancellor (maybe for the
> first half of the 4 years' legislative period) is gonna weakening
> from day to day. The Blacks stand strongly behind Angie to win the
> "power poker battle".
>
interesting
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
[Ukrainian star boxer]
> > From some source: <cit> Klitscko was ...
>
> I missed the fight.
>
I missed it, too. I only heard about it in the German news.
> I was out having a nice time at that moment in the
> Mandarin Hotel in DC
>
How wonderful!
[O.C., California]
>
> > This is now a hit in German TV.
> > I've seen only the announcement ads.
>
> I don't enjoy the show very much.
>
> I do like Mischa Barton though
>
Thanks for this tip!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0059215
She appears to be lovely and talented, presenting an impressive success
record as a former teenage star (at now 19). I had not yet noticed her,
but I'll watch out for her development.
> >
> > I suppose O.C. stands for Orange County (Anaheim & Disneyland, within
> > the L.A. area). I was there formerly, too.
>
> OC does stand for Orange County
>
Do you know what it stands for?
Is it perhaps the initials of a famous individual?
>
[Germany's "power poker battle" - Angie vs. Gerd]
> >
>
> interesting
>
I'll 'report' more about it as soon as things gonna get more
concrete.
[Ukraine]
A few weeks ago, we heard that the Ukrainian President had dismissed
the Government headed by Yuliya Tymoshenko. Why, and what happened
meanwhile? Is there any successor (f. or m.) appointed?
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
> Do you know what it stands for?
It stands for Orange County.
Orange because that part of California has many orange trees
> Is it perhaps the initials of a famous individual?
not that I know of. It stand for Orange County.
>
> >
> [Germany's "power poker battle" - Angie vs. Gerd]
> > >
> >
> > interesting
> >
>
> I'll 'report' more about it as soon as things gonna get more
> concrete.
>
>
> [Ukraine]
>
> http://www.ukraineinfo.us
>
> A few weeks ago, we heard that the Ukrainian President had dismissed
> the Government headed by Yuliya Tymoshenko. Why, and what happened
> meanwhile? Is there any successor (f. or m.) appointed?
>
This is all I can find for now. Apparently, there was a scandal as a
result of privatizing a firm.
The president is slowly replacing needed staff.
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/world/chi-0509270090sep27,0,6670947.story?coll=ny-leadworldnews-headlines
http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section=int&page=news_inhalt&news_id=6119438
a couple gogu links
http://www.triroc.com/wtc/
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811819108/103-5786221-7149451?v=glance
mk5000
"i always said no because I hadn't any time"--renny reynolds
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
> > Do you know what it stands for?
>
> It stands for Orange County.
> Orange because that part of California has many orange trees
>
Yes, that's what I thought, too.
Sorry, I have to apologize for having asked twice.
That was an error on my side since I had, at answering, in mind you
would have written "O.C. does _not_ stand for..." But, as I've
checked it now, you had indeed confirmed my guess at the very
beginning. Thanks again!
[Ukraine]
> This is all I can find for now. Apparently, there was a scandal as a
> result of privatizing a firm.
> The president is slowly replacing needed staff.
>
Yes, thanks for the information!
>
> a couple gogu links
> http://www.triroc.com/wtc
>
Very impressive.
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0811819108/103-5786221-7149451?v=glance
Hopefully he will give us some comments on the two websites.
>
> "i always said no because I hadn't any time"--renny reynolds
>
Nice, and sort of a most practical "philosophy" :-)
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> Sorry, I have to apologize for having asked twice.
we here at aullm don't worry about such errors.
if it botehred me, I would have voiced it
(like as if anything I write ever makes sense)
mk5000
"If I do my job correctly, the minute you think you know what's going
on, you're going to have no idea"--Darren Lynn Bousman
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
>
> (like as if anything I write ever makes sense)
>
I'm usually trying to avoid confusion.
But, in that case (i.e. OC), I had a "not" in my mind and I
didn't know why. I was probably not yet really awake at that early
time in the morning.
:-)
>
> "If I do my job correctly, the minute you think you know what's going
> on, you're going to have no idea"--Darren Lynn Bousman
>
;-)
[Transatlantic relations]
Yesterday I saw (on TV) some parts of the "Europa-Forum" at
Strasbourg. In particular, the EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs
Benita Ferrero-Waldner (from Austria)
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.f/f277545.htm
was very impressing as far a her negotiating power and her charm is
concerned. - The pic at the link does, by far, not show her real
charming Grand Lady's style and beauty, though.
At one of the discussion rounds - together with an US diplomat -
the
Transatlantic Alliance (USA & Europe)
was evaluated in great depth as a dominating nucleus of the Western
'values' in a rather narrow world where nowadays only 5 Global
Players are competing ('USA & Europe', Japan, China, India).
[Turkey's attempt to join the EU]
"The European Parliament gave grudging blessing to the start of
negotiations next Monday after a heated debate that vented strong
criticism of Turkey's human rights record."
More on that issue at
http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section=int&page=news_inhalt&news_id=6122800
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> I'm usually trying to avoid confusion.
not me. I love confusion
I don't remember if you and i have ever talked about this, but i also
have this ambush tendency to want to sometimes say/do stuff that i know
is irritating and will piss people off. whereas yo are the soul of
courtesy and politeness.
> But, in that case (i.e. OC), I had a "not" in my mind and I
> didn't know why.
i have before laughed at inappropriate times or made fun of stuff, in
clearly inappropriate moments, and it puzzles me . . .do you still have
a not in your head?
>I was probably not yet really awake at that early
> time in the morning.
> :-)
>
i enjoyed it.
> >
> > "If I do my job correctly, the minute you think you know what's going
> > on, you're going to have no idea"--Darren Lynn Bousman
> >
> ;-)
>
> [Transatlantic relations]
>
> Yesterday I saw (on TV) some parts of the "Europa-Forum" at
> Strasbourg. In particular, the EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs
>
> Benita Ferrero-Waldner (from Austria)
>
> http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.f/f277545.htm
>
> was very impressing as far a her negotiating power and her charm is
> concerned. - The pic at the link does, by far, not show her real
> charming Grand Lady's style and beauty, though.
>
> At one of the discussion rounds - together with an US diplomat -
> the
>
> Transatlantic Alliance (USA & Europe)
>
> was evaluated in great depth as a dominating nucleus of the Western
> 'values' in a rather narrow world where nowadays only 5 Global
> Players are competing ('USA & Europe', Japan, China, India).
>
boy she is really gorgeous.
>
> [Turkey's attempt to join the EU]
>
> "The European Parliament gave grudging blessing to the start of
> negotiations next Monday after a heated debate that vented strong
> criticism of Turkey's human rights record."
>
> More on that issue at
> http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section=int&page=news_inhalt&news_id=6122800
>
> >
i guess i sort of know about this issue, but i guess i don't understand
all the subtleties.
mk5000
'when I would get angry, it would freak them out. but they were so
coll. it felt like my own family"--julianne moore
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> >
>
Wow_!_
> I don't remember if you and i have ever talked about this, but i also
> have this ambush tendency to want to sometimes say/do stuff that i know
> is irritating and will piss people off.
>
I'm happy about having not yet been pissed off :-)
> whereas yo are the soul of courtesy and politeness.
>
Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
Btw, the Greek "poli" would mean "many". It would be sort of
double sense...
> ... do you still have a not in your head?
>
It's all blown away... :-)
[EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs: Benita Ferrero-Waldner]
> boy she is really gorgeous.
>
But topping her gorgeousness she is a charming and simultaneously tuff
negotiator. I saw her the first time at the Europa-Forum, two days ago,
and now I'm duly admiring her as one of the politically involved
Grand Ladies on this planet.
http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section=int&page=news_inhalt&news_id=6122800
> >
> > >
> i guess i sort of know about this issue, but i guess i don't understand
> all the subtleties.
>
Generally, the USA wants the European Union to integrate Turkey for a
geo-strategic reason. Turkey has to fulfil a number of conditions such
as the human rights matters and to accept the Greek state of Cyprus.
For the political situation of the EU is rather weak (its new
constitution was denied by the French and Dutch plebiscites), to
integrate Turkey with its very large - yet mainly poor - population
would perhaps deteriorate the whole EU in a sense that it might
politically implode.
Therefore, there are voices [mainly from the German conservatives
(CDU/CSU) whose chancellor candidate is the - neither charming nor
gorgeous at all - "Angie" Merkel] to offer Turkey (as a
neighbouring country) only a special /preferred/ partnership rather
than start negotiations for becoming a fully integrated EU member in
about 1 or 2 decades - however, with the EU's option to deny a
membership at the _end_ of such a long-term negotiation process (which
would be considered disastrous).
>
> "when I would get angry, it would freak them out. but they were so
> coll. it felt like my own family"--julianne moore
>
Sounds like "Friends" (TV sitcom).
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
>
> Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
niceness doesn't come in moufle flavor
>
> Btw, the Greek "poli" would mean "many". It would be sort of
> double sense...
>
> > ... do you still have a not in your head?
> >
>
> It's all blown away... :-)
>
>
> [EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs: Benita Ferrero-Waldner]
>
> > boy she is really gorgeous.
> >
>
> But topping her gorgeousness she is a charming and simultaneously tuff
> negotiator.
She is now my new role model.
>I saw her the first time at the Europa-Forum, two days ago,
> and now I'm duly admiring her as one of the politically involved
> Grand Ladies on this planet.
you wuz there in person???
lucky guy...
thanks for the summaries on all the politics, it's interesting but hard
to get a leg up on data that you are so behind on.
mk5000
"Sweet secrets to daisies
And they laugh as if full of thoughts
Of souls lost long ago
Green grasses dancing in the breeze"--Duclet Haze, tm nara vaughn
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> I am not voting for the conservative party here in Greece but it's the first
> time I want to see a CDU leader -Merkel- forming a government ;-)
> [...]
Hi Gogu,
my answer was contained in this posting:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/msg/dc5c79ed4136c50d
There is a special post-election at Dresden (Saxony) tomorrow.
Meanwhile, the 'power poker battle' (Angie vs. Gerd) is unchanged.
Today the cold and rainy autumn whether has began in Germany. Until
yesterday we had plenty of sunshine, and all the trees are yet green.
In a few days it will be autumnally colourful all-around here in the
Taunus-Mountains as well as in the large parks of Wiesbaden and
alongside the Rhine river.
[Venice]
Btw, do you have any comments on Venice (see link above). Have you ever
been there, too?
How are you doing, Gogu?
For about one week we have not read anything from you in our special
"talk" thread here ...
Have a pleasant weekend...!
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
>
> niceness doesn't come in moufle flavor
>
Yes, U're right :-)
And I thank you for the three soul-oriented compliments
(c., p., n.)...
>
[EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs: Benita Ferrero-Waldner]
> >
> > > boy she is really gorgeous.
> > >
> >
> > But topping her gorgeousness she is a charming and simultaneously tuff
> > negotiator.
>
> She is now my new role model.
>
What does it mean?
Perhaps, that you are creating special dresses for her at your
("i.") fashion house?
> >I saw her the first time at the Europa-Forum, two days ago,
> > and now I'm duly admiring her as one of the politically involved
> > Grand Ladies on this planet.
>
> you wuz there in person???
> lucky guy...
>
I got this on "wuz":
Unfortunately, I didn't understand your (???) question.
Need yet some interpreting help...
> thanks for the summaries on all the politics, it's interesting but hard
> to get a leg up on data that you are so behind on.
>
Well, I felt you are interested in transatlantic relations and, maybe,
in globalization matters. I'm not a data compiler, but I am looking
into those political issues and decisions that are (more or less) of
geo-strategic future-oriented relevancy.
> "Sweet secrets to daisies
> And they laugh as if full of thoughts
> Of souls lost long ago
> Green grasses dancing in the breeze"--Duclet Haze, tm nara vaughn
>
Very nice!
As I suppose you are still tight-up with the budgeting process, I wish
you a pleasant weekend of relaxation!
gogu
> marika wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>>
>> >
>> ... I love confusion
> Wow_!_
Dada !
>> whereas yo are the soul of courtesy and politeness.
> Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
>
> Btw, the Greek "poli" would mean "many". It would be sort of
> double sense...
Poli, with eta at the end means "city, town".
Poli with the diphthong "oi" at the end, it indeed means "many".
> Generally, the USA wants the European Union to integrate Turkey for a
> geo-strategic reason. Turkey has to fulfil a number of conditions such
> as the human rights matters and to accept the Greek state of Cyprus.
Logical !
> For the political situation of the EU is rather weak (its new
> constitution was denied by the French and Dutch plebiscites), to
> integrate Turkey with its very large - yet mainly poor - population
> would perhaps deteriorate the whole EU in a sense that it might
> politically implode.
Very possible.
But we must do everything we can in order to bring Turkey in the 21st
century and democratize it...
> Therefore, there are voices [mainly from the German conservatives
> (CDU/CSU) whose chancellor candidate is the - neither charming nor
> gorgeous at all - "Angie" Merkel] to offer Turkey (as a
> neighbouring country) only a special /preferred/ partnership rather
> than start negotiations for becoming a fully integrated EU member in
> about 1 or 2 decades - however, with the EU's option to deny a
> membership at the _end_ of such a long-term negotiation process (which
> would be considered disastrous).
It makes sense but we must have in mind the full membership at the end of
the -lengthy...- road, I believe.
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
> CU, Frank
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>>
>>
>> > [Germany]
>
>> I am not voting for the conservative party here in Greece but it's the
>> first
>> time I want to see a CDU leader -Merkel- forming a government ;-)
>> [...]
>
>
> Hi Gogu,
>
> my answer was contained in this posting:
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/msg/dc5c79ed4136c50d
>
> There is a special post-election at Dresden (Saxony) tomorrow.
>
> Meanwhile, the 'power poker battle' (Angie vs. Gerd) is unchanged.
Yes, I am watching it on the TV.
> Today the cold and rainy autumn whether has began in Germany. Until
> yesterday we had plenty of sunshine, and all the trees are yet green.
> In a few days it will be autumnally colourful all-around here in the
> Taunus-Mountains as well as in the large parks of Wiesbaden and
> alongside the Rhine river.
Here is raining too...
> [Venice]
>
> Btw, do you have any comments on Venice (see link above). Have you ever
> been there, too?
Sure, I was there 6 or 7 times when I was studying in Italy and 2 more times
after that.
> How are you doing, Gogu?
Preparing for Christening my daughter tomorrow ;-)
You can't imagine how many things I had to do all this week !
> For about one week we have not read anything from you in our special
> "talk" thread here ...
?
I am not sure but I *think* I've posted something...
> Have a pleasant weekend...!
Yeah, it will be a pleasant one with the christening :-)
See you all Monday evening.
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
marika
gogu wrote:
>
> Dada !
whenever I hear that word I want to react by saying something like
MOTHER IN LAW
>
>
> >> whereas yo are the soul of courtesy and politeness.
>
>
> > Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
> >
> > Btw, the Greek "poli" would mean "many". It would be sort of
> > double sense...
>
> Poli, with eta at the end means "city, town".
> Poli with the diphthong "oi" at the end, it indeed means "many".
so Tripoli means, three times many?
>
>
> > Generally, the USA wants the European Union to integrate Turkey for a
> > geo-strategic reason. Turkey has to fulfil a number of conditions such
> > as the human rights matters and to accept the Greek state of Cyprus.
>
> Logical !
In the short term, this should increase thier business, but will there
be any "guilt by association" in their name? I guess that's what the
hang up is. You may need to be prepared for questions....
>
> > For the political situation of the EU is rather weak (its new
> > constitution was denied by the French and Dutch plebiscites), to
> > integrate Turkey with its very large - yet mainly poor - population
> > would perhaps deteriorate the whole EU in a sense that it might
> > politically implode.
>
> Very possible.
> But we must do everything we can in order to bring Turkey in the 21st
> century and democratize it...
>
> > Therefore, there are voices [mainly from the German conservatives
> > (CDU/CSU) whose chancellor candidate is the - neither charming nor
> > gorgeous at all - "Angie" Merkel] to offer Turkey (as a
> > neighbouring country) only a special /preferred/ partnership rather
> > than start negotiations for becoming a fully integrated EU member in
> > about 1 or 2 decades - however, with the EU's option to deny a
> > membership at the _end_ of such a long-term negotiation process (which
> > would be considered disastrous).
>
> It makes sense but we must have in mind the full membership at the end of
> the -lengthy...- road, I believe.
good thing maybe it DID take them so long to get there
mk5000
"That father lost, lost his, and the survivor bound
In filial obligation for some term
To do obsequious sorrow: but to persevere
In obstinate condolement is a course"--claudius from shakespeare's
hamlet
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
> >
> > niceness doesn't come in moufle flavor
> >
>
> Yes, U're right :-)
> And I thank you for the three soul-oriented compliments
> (c., p., n.)...
>
> >
>
> [EU Commissioner for Foreign Affairs: Benita Ferrero-Waldner]
> > >
> > > > boy she is really gorgeous.
> > > >
> > >
> > > But topping her gorgeousness she is a charming and simultaneously tuff
> > > negotiator.
> >
> > She is now my new role model.
> >
>
> What does it mean?
> Perhaps, that you are creating special dresses for her at your
> ("i.") fashion house?
funny!!
a role model is a person who one decides they should take as an
example.
You described severeal atrributes such as "good negotiator" that I
aspire to.
THus, I want to model myself, my character, after her good attributes,
the ones I admire
>
> > >I saw her the first time at the Europa-Forum, two days ago,
> > > and now I'm duly admiring her as one of the politically involved
> > > Grand Ladies on this planet.
> >
> > you wuz there in person???
> > lucky guy...
> >
>
> I got this on "wuz":
>
> http://www.google.de/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLC,GGLC:1970-01,GGLC:de&q=define%3Awuz
>
> Unfortunately, I didn't understand your (???) question.
> Need yet some interpreting help...
I wondered if you would get that word.
I am a bit fuzzy on the history of sports but there is this famous
saying "we wuz robbed"
The athlete was referring to a loss of a sports victory.
Often Americans pronounce the word "was" (to be, is, was) distinctively
as WUZ, sometimes joking, sometimes it is their natural dialetc.
Normally I would say You were there.
A person from a particular city in America where this is their dialect
would say You Wuz. I have heard it in both the North and South, so I
am not sure of the total etymological travels of this way of speaking.
>
> > thanks for the summaries on all the politics, it's interesting but hard
> > to get a leg up on data that you are so behind on.
> >
>
> Well, I felt you are interested in transatlantic relations and, maybe,
> in globalization matters. I'm not a data compiler, but I am looking
> into those political issues and decisions that are (more or less) of
> geo-strategic future-oriented relevancy.
>
i am interested, but a lazy researcher
>
> > "Sweet secrets to daisies
> > And they laugh as if full of thoughts
> > Of souls lost long ago
> > Green grasses dancing in the breeze"--Duclet Haze, tm nara vaughn
> >
>
> Very nice!
>
> As I suppose you are still tight-up with the budgeting process, I wish
> you a pleasant weekend of relaxation!
>
I am presently on a mission to go shore up my house for winter.
I am considering wrapping it in aluminum foil.
I hear it works for food and tin men
mk5000
"The main characters are quite appealing and likable...well,
at least I found the three primary questers so. Prince
Tatters was properly serious & sincere, Grampa competent &
protective--substitute a soldier for a sailor and a 'game leg'
for a wooden one and you can see the influence of one of Baum's
best adult characters, Cap'n BILL."--r morris
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
[Germany]
> > There is a special post-election at Dresden (Saxony) tomorrow.
> >
> > Meanwhile, the 'power poker battle' (Angie vs. Gerd) is unchanged.
>
> Yes, I am watching it on the TV.
>
OK.
I'm glad that you are interested in those particular political issues
:-)
> Here is raining too...
>
Yeah, I saw it on the TV European weather map.
That's sad for your daughter's baptism day.
[Venice]
>
> > Btw, do you have any comments on Venice (...). Have you ever
> > been there, too?
>
> Sure, I was there 6 or 7 times when I was studying in Italy and 2 more times
> after that.
>
I was there, unfortunately, only one day.
When we spent a few days of vacation at Malcesine (Lake Garda)
I drove, early in the morning, by car down to Venice. With the boat
then down the Canal Grande to the San Marco, looking around the piazza
with its columns, visiting the basilica and the Doge's palace,
walking around alongside the gondolas' area and then passing various
little bridges to get to the area with lots of beautiful and charming
restaurants (having lunch). In the afternoon I walked around the Rialto
Bridge area and then, in the evening, across the many utmost narrow
streets to the parking facility.
That was a great first Venetian experience. I surely have to get back
there again - in the farther future...
>
> Preparing for Christening my daughter tomorrow ;-)
> You can't imagine how many things I had to do all this week!
>
Oh yes, I suppose I can :-)
That's a big event, with a lot of people - Greek style (family &
friends). I wish your daughter as well as you and your family all the
best and happiness on earth!
> See you all Monday evening.
>
OK :-)
I'll reply to your second posting with political matters (EU, Turkey,
etc) within a few days (after your Monday's signal).
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
> a role model is a person who one decides they should take as an
> example.
> aspire to.
> Thus, I want to model myself, my character, after her good attributes,
> the ones I admire
>
Oh, that's interesting.
And thanks for explicating this special term!
[WUZ]
>
> I wondered if you would get that word.
>
> I am a bit fuzzy on the history of sports but there is this famous
> saying "we wuz robbed"
> The athlete was referring to a loss of a sports victory.
>
> Often Americans pronounce the word "was" (to be, is, was) distinctively
> as WUZ, sometimes joking, sometimes it is their natural dialect.
>
> Normally I would say You were there.
> A person from a particular city in America where this is their dialect
> would say You Wuz. I have heard it in both the North and South, so I
> am not sure of the total etymological travels of this way of speaking.
>
Quite fascinating & thanks!
I'm always happy to get some of such type of idioms (yet 'new' to
me!) gathered...
[Political & geo-strategic issues]
> >
> > Well, I felt you are interested in transatlantic relations and, maybe,
> > in globalization matters. I'm not a data compiler, but I am looking
> > into those political issues and decisions that are (more or less) of
> > geo-strategic future-oriented relevancy.
> >
>
> i am interested, but a lazy researcher
>
The first one is really appreciable.
And for the second one: Don't bother!
Maybe, I'll keep you up-to-date (short-cut, of course).
>
> I am presently on a mission to go shore up my house for winter.
> I am considering wrapping it in aluminum foil.
> I hear it works for food and tin men
>
What are those 'tin men' all-about?
>
> "The main characters are quite appealing and likable...well,
> at least I found the three primary questers so. Prince
> Tatters was properly serious & sincere, Grampa competent &
> protective--substitute a soldier for a sailor and a 'game leg'
> for a wooden one and you can see the influence of one of Baum's
> best adult characters, Cap'n BILL."--r morris
>
Not so easy to get some cute meaning out of this quote ...
marika
gogu wrote:
> Yeah, it will be a pleasant one with the christening :-)
>
> See you all Monday evening.
>
update us when you return
don't forget to desribe all the elegant fashion, shoes included!!!
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
>
>
> What are those 'tin men' all-about?
the tinman is a character from the wizard of oz
many are familiar with the movie
fewer are aware that frank l baum referenced below wrote a large
number of books about oz replete with many fanstatical
characters
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What are those 'tin men' all-about?
>
>
> the tinman is a character from the wizard of oz
>
I have never had any insight into that wizard-of-oz-stuff which, I
guess, is written and produced for kids (?).
> many are familiar with the movie
> fewer are aware that frank l baum referenced below wrote a large
> number of books about oz replete with many fanstatical
> characters
>
> > >
> > > "The main characters are quite appealing and likable...well,
> > > at least I found the three primary questers so. Prince
> > > Tatters was properly serious & sincere, Grampa competent &
> > > protective--substitute a soldier for a sailor and a 'game leg'
> > > for a wooden one and you can see the influence of one of Baum's
> > > best adult characters, Cap'n BILL."--r morris
> > >
Unfortunately, that's "Bohemian villages" to me :-)
Today we have the "German Unity" holyday (all biz and shops
closed).
Now, we are curiously awaiting Gogu's report...
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
>
> I have never had any insight into that wizard-of-oz-stuff which, I
> guess, is written and produced for kids (?).
I do believe you are right that it is a children's book, but I have
always loved children's literature and such.
The movie visuals are wonderful, even for adults. The songs are
catchy.
I have never rad the books themselves, though I have heard that they
are somewhat weakly written. In any event, I have a favorite writer,
Martin Gardner, whose books I have not read in a decade. (He is since
deceased). Baum was one of Gardner's favorite authors. He wrote
several interesting articles on Baum and his ouevre. So you don't have
to do too much research, Gardner was the editor of the math column in
Scientific American. If you are in the chemistry profession (I think
that is what you said), you probably know this magazine.
And before you ask me anything more, no, I am very poor with
mathematics. I do like looking at all the pretty symbols on the page
though. They are very artistic.
>
> > many are familiar with the movie
> > fewer are aware that frank l baum referenced below wrote a large
> > number of books about oz replete with many fanstatical
> > characters
> >
> > > >
> > > > "The main characters are quite appealing and likable...well,
> > > > at least I found the three primary questers so. Prince
> > > > Tatters was properly serious & sincere, Grampa competent &
> > > > protective--substitute a soldier for a sailor and a 'game leg'
> > > > for a wooden one and you can see the influence of one of Baum's
> > > > best adult characters, Cap'n BILL."--r morris
> > > >
>
> Unfortunately, that's "Bohemian villages" to me :-)
ok you got me. What does that phrase mean?
>
> Today we have the "German Unity" holyday (all biz and shops
> closed).
is it a religious observance (holy day?) or a government observance
(holiday?) or a little of both?
I do know that today is Rosh Hashana and Ramadan so I think maybe that
is what it is about?
I have a really strange story to tell you while I am here at the end of
the post.
I just came out of the restaurant "International House of Pancakes" in
Roanoke, this morning, 2 men by the car. They were what people would
describe as "rednecks, that is, the classic t-shirts, jeans and
baseball caps. Maybe 45 years old. Standing near a pick up truck,
again associated with the stereotype "rednec".
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES
This is all I heard them say -- "since Deana was involved in the
filming of the first episode of the season, she really wanted to be
there"
Leseter, if you are reading this, was there anything in the Roanoke
Times about this. Perhaps they were not even from Roanoke, but just
passing through. I sure would like to know.
also I just got this alert in my mailbox
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/browse_thread/thread/ea84abb47f4f366e/60b7b6f399e0d73c?q=jon+heder&rnum=1#60b7b6f399e0d73c
I don't know whether Ashlee will be playing with the Dolls on SNL next
week, but I promise to watch, including because I adore Napoleon
Dynamite
mk5000
gogu
> marika wrote:
> Unfortunately, that's "Bohemian villages" to me :-)
>
> Today we have the "German Unity" holyday (all biz and shops
> closed).
>
> Now, we are curiously awaiting Gogu's report...
Ales klar ;-)
Photos in a few days !
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Frank Kalder wrote:
>>
>>
> [Germany]
>
>> > There is a special post-election at Dresden (Saxony) tomorrow.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, the 'power poker battle' (Angie vs. Gerd) is unchanged.
>> Yes, I am watching it on the TV.
> OK.
> I'm glad that you are interested in those particular political issues
> :-)
Germany is a big European country and one of the two countries of the
Paris-Berlin axis, so it's normal to watch it :-)
>> Here is raining too...
> Yeah, I saw it on the TV European weather map.
> That's sad for your daughter's baptism day.
And miracle of miracles Sunday was a sunny day and everything went smooth !
> [Venice]
>>
>> > Btw, do you have any comments on Venice (...). Have you ever
>> > been there, too?
>>
>> Sure, I was there 6 or 7 times when I was studying in Italy and 2 more
>> times
>> after that.
>>
>
> I was there, unfortunately, only one day.
>
> When we spent a few days of vacation at Malcesine (Lake Garda)
>
> http://www.comunemalcesine.it
>
> I drove, early in the morning, by car down to Venice. With the boat
> then down the Canal Grande to the San Marco, looking around the piazza
> with its columns, visiting the basilica and the Doge's palace,
> walking around alongside the gondolas' area and then passing various
> little bridges to get to the area with lots of beautiful and charming
> restaurants (having lunch). In the afternoon I walked around the Rialto
> Bridge area and then, in the evening, across the many utmost narrow
> streets to the parking facility.
>
> That was a great first Venetian experience. I surely have to get back
> there again - in the farther future...
Venice is one of the most beautiful Italian cities, not to say of the whole
world !
A thing many of you may not know is that Venice is a "dead" city: nobody is
sleeping there, everyone after the close of the shops/restaurants etc is
going to their houses at Mestre !
That's why the official name is Venezia-Mestre.
>> Preparing for Christening my daughter tomorrow ;-)
>> You can't imagine how many things I had to do all this week!
> Oh yes, I suppose I can :-)
> That's a big event, with a lot of people - Greek style (family &
> friends). I wish your daughter as well as you and your family all the
> best and happiness on earth!
And that's exactly what happened :-)
It was celebrated in a very beautiful small church build in the Byzantine
times, everything was just beautiful!
And of course my daughter didn't stop crying during the whole ceremony ;-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
>> See you all Monday evening.
gogu
news:1128252813.6...@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
LOL
As in such occasions everybody was elegantly dressed but I can't "report" on
that, I am not so interested in observing how people are dressed !
My wife could better describe such things ;-)
Although there was an "official" photograph and a video guy, I was all the
time changing between my video camera and my digital camera !
To be honest, I practically lost all the ceremony, I was all the time with
an eye"glued" to a viewfinder :-)
Big Butch Floppie Bwoy
gogu
news:1128386371.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Nullity
Spoken like a genuine NAZI Turk dear ;-)
Everybody could testimony your TURKISH eloquence, your TURKISH TROLLING,
your TURKISH attempt to FLAME ;-)
Well done my dear NAZI Turk, you are a great asset to your country Turkey
;-)
PWN !
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
> > Today we have the "German Unity" holiday (all biz and shops
> > closed).
> >
> > Now, we are curiously awaiting Gogu's report...
>
>
> Alles klar ;-)
> Photos in a few days!
>
Great!
Then, Marika can see the fashion (dresses, shoes and so on).
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
[Germany]
> Germany is a big European country and one of the two countries of the
> Paris-Berlin axis, so it's normal to watch it :-)
>
ACK... :-)
> And miracle of miracles Sunday was a sunny day and everything went smooth!
>
At Sunday evening I saw you had sun and 27°C in the average; -
beautiful for that unique celebration.
>
[Venice]
> Venice is one of the most beautiful Italian cities, not to say of the whole
> world!
>
Oh yeah_!_
> A thing many of you may not know is that Venice is a "dead" city: nobody is
> sleeping there, everyone after the close of the shops/restaurants etc is
> going to their houses at Mestre!
>
Yes, I knew that from reading it in the tourist information which I got
(formerly).
> That's why the official name is Venezia-Mestre.
>
The entire central parts of the city are built on stilts. There were
rumours that, if the water level increases a bit due to the atmospheric
condition (CO2), the center of Venice might sink and die. How do you
think about that?
>
[Christening]
>
> It was celebrated in a very beautiful small church build in the Byzantine
> times, everything was just beautiful!
> And of course my daughter didn't stop crying during the whole ceremony ;-)
>
(1) Very romantic and (2) unavoidable :-)
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
> I do believe you are right that it is a children's book, but I have
> always loved children's literature and such.
>
> The movie visuals are wonderful, even for adults. The songs are
> catchy.
>
Maybe, in the future, I'll have an opportunity to see a bit of that
or, at least, listen to those songs...
> I have never read the books themselves, though I have heard that they
> are somewhat weakly written. In any event, I have a favorite writer,
> Martin Gardner, whose books I have not read in a decade. (He is since
> deceased). Baum was one of Gardner's favorite authors. He wrote
> several interesting articles on Baum and his ouevre.
>
Thanks for the explanation!
> So you don't have
> to do too much research, Gardner was the editor of the math column in
> Scientific American. If you are in the chemistry profession (I think
> that is what you said), you probably know this magazine.
>
Yes, I knew
but I did not make much use of reading in it, though.
I am in Economics & Business Administration within the international
chemical and pharmaceutical industry (but I'm _not_ a chemist).
> ... I do like looking at all the pretty symbols on the page
> though. They are very artistic.
>
Yes, I believe you. I just looked at the relevant websites, e.g. this
one: http://www.singalongoz.com. Do you like the shoes there?
> > Unfortunately, that's "Bohemian villages" to me :-)
>
>
> ok you got me. What does that phrase mean?
>
There is a German saying for stuff which nothing about is known of:
"Das sind für mich alles Böhmische Dörfer".
>
[German Unity]
> >
> > Today we have the "German Unity" holiday (all biz and shops
> > closed).
>
> ... a government observance holiday ...
>
15 years after the German reunion of East & West.
I've corrected my misspelling (see above).
I provided an excerpt at www.haplif.de/61820.html (under 10/05). The
full text of that speech you'll find here:
http://www.bundesregierung.de/Nachrichten-,417.897376/rede/Rede-von-Bundestagspraesident-.htm
(however, an English version seems to be yet unavailable at this early
time).
> I do know that today is Rosh Hashana and Ramadan ...
>
ACK.
> I have a really strange story to tell you [...]
> Lester, if you are reading this, was there anything in the Roanoke
> Times about this. Perhaps they were not even from Roanoke, but just
> passing through. I sure would like to know.
>
I'm curious to get more on this...
> also I just got this alert in my mailbox
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/browse_thread/thread/ea84abb47f4f366e/60b7b6f399e0d73c?q=jon+heder&rnum=1#60b7b6f399e0d73c
>
> I don't know whether Ashlee will be playing with the Dolls on SNL next
> week, but I promise to watch, including because I adore Napoleon
> Dynamite
>
Thanks, it was nice to read that on the "Dolls". - On my way to the
West, I had formerly attended a show at Ceasar's Palace in Las Vegas.
And, let me know more about that adored one...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1417647
Jon Heder seems to be a nice guy (talented and so on).
>
>
[Bavaria (Germany)]
The world's biggest people's happening, the Oktoberfest, ended
yesterday in Munich: 6.1 million visitors & 6 million litres of beer
(that's 6.000 metric tons or 300 truckloads (each 20 mt).
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> > Now, we are curiously awaiting Gogu's report...
>> Alles klar ;-)
>> Photos in a few days!
> Great!
> Then, Marika can see the fashion (dresses, shoes and so on).
Errrr ... for NAZI Turkish TROLLS reasons (call me Seanie...) I'll try not
to post anything (faces, dresses, etc) that our resident NAZI Turkish TROLL
would/could exploit to flame...
I am sure you understand that...
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
> CU, Frank
>
> --
> www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html
gogu
gogu wrote:
>> And miracle of miracles Sunday was a sunny day and everything went
>> smooth!
>At Sunday evening I saw you had sun and 27°C in the average; -
>beautiful for that unique celebration.
YES !
>> A thing many of you may not know is that Venice is a "dead" city: nobody
>> is
>> sleeping there, everyone after the close of the shops/restaurants etc is
>> going to their houses at Mestre!
>Yes, I knew that from reading it in the tourist information which I got
>(formerly).
I didn't know it was on the guides !
>> That's why the official name is Venezia-Mestre.
>The entire central parts of the city are built on stilts. There were
>rumours that, if the water level increases a bit due to the atmospheric
>condition (CO2), the center of Venice might sink and die. How do you
>think about that?
This is true and a couple a times a year the San Marco square is under
water.
Venetians are lying wooden corridors at about 50-60 cm above soil and the
tourists are walking on them !
The problem is becoming greater due the unusual multiplying of the seaweeds
in the last decade, which contributes to the lowering of the oxygen content
of the water in the lagoon and more stagnant waters...
Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
Nothing solution chosen until now...
[Christening]
>> It was celebrated in a very beautiful small church build in the Byzantine
>> times, everything was just beautiful!
>> And of course my daughter didn't stop crying during the whole ceremony
>> ;-)
>(1) Very romantic and (2) unavoidable :-)
:-))))
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
>CU, Frank
marika
>
> This is true and a couple a times a year the San Marco square is under
> water.
> Venetians are lying wooden corridors at about 50-60 cm above soil and the
> tourists are walking on them !
> The problem is becoming greater due the unusual multiplying of the seaweeds
> in the last decade, which contributes to the lowering of the oxygen content
> of the water in the lagoon and more stagnant waters...
> Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
> futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
> Nothing solution chosen until now...
>
> [Christening]
Do you know what wonderful poetic images happened in my head when you
talked about dams and then the word christening.
Took me a few seconds to realize it was due to snippage of the previous
post, not the christening of the city
>
> >> It was celebrated in a very beautiful small church build in the Byzantine
> >> times, everything was just beautiful!
> >> And of course my daughter didn't stop crying during the whole ceremony
> >> ;-)
>
>
> >(1) Very romantic and (2) unavoidable :-)
>
> :-))))
>
>
I have seen a few Byzantine style Greek churches in the US. They
certainly won't compare to those in Greece of course, but I just love
the ikonostas part (is that the right word). I spend very much time
staring at that, trying to figure out all the greek letters and
guessing who the pictures are of based on the letters.
mk5000
"Who journey thither find themselves alone
With a few sheep, with rocks and stones, and kites
That overhead are sailing in the sky.
It is in truth an utter solitude;"--pastoral poem, wm wordsworth
marika
gogu wrote:
>
>
> Errrr ... for NAZI Turkish TROLLS reasons (call me Seanie...) I'll try not
> to post anything (faces, dresses, etc) that our resident NAZI Turkish TROLL
> would/could exploit to flame...
> I am sure you understand that...
yup
mk5000
"As soon as he had armed himself with strength
look his trouble in the face, it seemed
The Shepherd's sole resource to sell at once
portion of his patrimonial fields."--wm wordsworth, pastoral
poem
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:> >
>
> Yes, I believe you. I just looked at the relevant websites, e.g. this
> one: http://www.singalongoz.com. Do you like the shoes there?
I believe those shoes were recently in the news, as reported stolen.
But, I also heard that there were several backup shoes made for the
film.
I do think they are lovely.
If I were permitted to choose, and as these are imaginary ruby slipper
gifts, I will ask for an additional pair in tsavorite garnet too!
http://www.wholesalegemstones.org/GemStones.asp?itemgroup=Garnet%20Tsavorite%20Gem
>
> > > Unfortunately, that's "Bohemian villages" to me :-)
> >
> >
> > ok you got me. What does that phrase mean?
> >
>
> There is a German saying for stuff which nothing about is known of:
> "Das sind für mich alles Böhmische Dörfer".
>
> >
> [German Unity]
>
> > >
> > > Today we have the "German Unity" holiday (all biz and shops
> > > closed).
> >
> > ... a government observance holiday ...
> >
>
> 15 years after the German reunion of East & West.
>
> I've corrected my misspelling (see above).
>
> I provided an excerpt at www.haplif.de/61820.html (under 10/05). The
> full text of that speech you'll find here:
> http://www.bundesregierung.de/Nachrichten-,417.897376/rede/Rede-von-Bundestagspraesident-.htm
> (however, an English version seems to be yet unavailable at this early
> time).
I will be interested to see it in translation.
My German is not nearly as advanced as your English.
>
> > I do know that today is Rosh Hashana and Ramadan ...
> >
>
> ACK.
>
>
> > I have a really strange story to tell you [...]
>
>
> > Lester, if you are reading this, was there anything in the Roanoke
> > Times about this. Perhaps they were not even from Roanoke, but just
> > passing through. I sure would like to know.
> >
>
> I'm curious to get more on this...
I will keep researching. If I figure it out, I will update.
>
> > also I just got this alert in my mailbox
> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/browse_thread/thread/ea84abb47f4f366e/60b7b6f399e0d73c?q=jon+heder&rnum=1#60b7b6f399e0d73c
>
> >
> > I don't know whether Ashlee will be playing with the Dolls on SNL next
> > week, but I promise to watch, including because I adore Napoleon
> > Dynamite
> >
>
> Thanks, it was nice to read that on the "Dolls". - On my way to the
> West, I had formerly attended a show at Ceasar's Palace in Las Vegas.
>
> And, let me know more about that adored one...
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1417647
> Jon Heder seems to be a nice guy (talented and so on).
>
>
> >
> >
> [Bavaria (Germany)]
>
> The world's biggest people's happening, the Oktoberfest, ended
> yesterday in Munich: 6.1 million visitors & 6 million litres of beer
> (that's 6.000 metric tons or 300 truckloads (each 20 mt).
>
Wish I could have gone.
Perhaps Lester and I will try for next year's...
I saw Gary perform at some point in my life but I can't remember where
or when
mk5000
"The Dharma is like an avocado!
Some parts so ripe,
the great big round seed",
Hard and slippery"--gary snyder
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> marika wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Oh, maybe I'm a courtymoufle or polimoufle?
> >
> > niceness doesn't come in moufle flavor
> >
Jump straight to the signature on this one
mk5000
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley/msg/74262660dd1518dd?dmode=source
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I believe those shoes were recently in the news, as reported stolen.
> But, I also heard that there were several backup shoes made for the
> film.
>
> I do think they are lovely.
>
I see :-)
How about the famous French and Italian shoes?
Chaussures Françaises:
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~jcdaniel/french-website/main.html
http://www.laredoute.fr/category.aspx?categoryID=8366687&bi_tracked=1
Calzature Italiane:
http://www.italianheels.com/index_en.shtml
> If I were permitted to choose, and as these are imaginary ruby slipper
> gifts, I will ask for an additional pair in tsavorite garnet too!
> http://www.wholesalegemstones.org/GemStones.asp?itemgroup=Garnet%20Tsavorite%20Gem
Nice gems, indeed :-)
[German Unity Day]
> I will be interested to see it in translation.
> My German is not nearly as advanced as your English.
>
Meanwhile, I've found this one (as a short-cut outline of the
speeches held):
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1728623,00.html
[Roanoke "rednecks" story]
> > I'm curious to get more on this...
>
> I will keep researching. If I figure it out, I will update.
ACK.
> > [Bavaria (Germany)]
> >
> > The world's biggest people's happening, the Oktoberfest, ended
> > on 3rd October in Munich...
>
> Wish I could have gone.
>
> Perhaps Lester and I will try for next year's...
>
That would be great!
> I saw Gary perform at some point in my life but I can't remember where
> or when
>
http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/poets/s_z/snyder/snyder.htm
First time, I heard about him.
>
> "The Dharma is like an avocado!
> Some parts so ripe,
> the great big round seed",
> Hard and slippery"--gary snyder
>
What Dharma do you mean?
http://www.subudusa.org/TM&M.php - Perhaps this one?
Maybe, what is your involvement in Dharma?
The description of the avocado and its seed inspires me to have
tremendous associations on 'some' special part of people's
intermingling capacities ...
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > niceness doesn't come in moufle flavor
> > >
>
>
> Jump straight to the signature on this one
>
>
Well, "Kaiser Karl" is a real freaky dietmoufle. But, anyway, he
has the guts to make money out of anything - although he won't need
that anymore.
Frank Kalder
>
>
>
> I am sure you understand that...
>
Oh yes, Gogu, I do.
Let me add that the Germans and their neighbours in other countries are
_reluctant_ to either write & say or read & hear that special
abbreviation starting with "N" and ending with "I" any longer.
- Sad past times (!) which should _not_ be evoked in any such context.
----
[EU/Turkey]
On your statement of 1st October:
Frank:
> > For the political situation of the EU is rather weak (its new
> > constitution was denied by the French and Dutch plebiscites), to
> > integrate Turkey with its very large - yet mainly poor - population
> > would perhaps deteriorate the whole EU in a sense that it might
> > politically implode.
>
Gogu:
> Very possible.
> But we must do everything we can in order to bring Turkey in the 21st
> century and democratize it...
>
Frank:
> > Therefore, there are voices [mainly from the German conservatives
> > (CDU/CSU) whose chancellor candidate is the - neither charming nor
> > gorgeous at all - "Angie" Merkel] to offer Turkey (as a
> > neighbouring country) only a special /preferred/ partnership rather
> > than start negotiations for becoming a fully integrated EU member in
> > about 1 or 2 decades - however, with the EU's option to deny a
> > membership at the _end_ of such a long-term negotiation process (which
> > would be considered disastrous).
>
Gogu:
> It makes sense but we must have in mind the full membership at the end of
> the -lengthy...- road, I believe.
>
Yes, I agree:
(1) "We must do everything we can in order to bring Turkey in the
21st century and democratize it..."
(2) At the end of the negotiations in about 10 to 15 years (as
officially expected), the final goal has to be a full membership.
I've made an entry on the historic date of the formal beginning of
the negotiations at www.haplif.de/61820.html (under 10/05).
>
CU, Frank
--
www.haplif.de & www.haplif.de/61820.html
Frank Kalder
> Frank Kalder wrote:
>
> This is true and a couple a times a year the San Marco square is under
> water.
> Venetians are lying wooden corridors at about 50-60 cm above soil and the
> tourists are walking on them!
Yes, we see this occasionally on TV.
> The problem is becoming greater due the unusual multiplying of the seaweeds
> in the last decade, which contributes to the lowering of the oxygen content
> of the water in the lagoon and more stagnant waters...
>
ACK.
> Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
> futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
> Nothing solution chosen until now...
>
Almost like in New Orleans.
At some point, the engineers can _no more_ establish real safe
construction measures.
[NYC - WTC]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811819108/103-9557141-0069469?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
What can you - possibly - remark on those two links (above)
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/d00029f30ac1b40e
that Markika presented on 28th September as "gogu links"?
gogu
>
> gogu wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Errrr ... for NAZI Turkish TROLLS reasons (call me Seanie...) I'll try
>> not
>> to post anything (faces, dresses, etc) that our resident NAZI Turkish
>> TROLL
>> would/could exploit to flame...
>> I am sure you understand that...
> yup
:-)
Thanks for understanding Marika !
It is so sad to see such extremist Turks like this TROLL damaging Turkey's
public image...
Some times I wonder if he is really pro-Turkish or paid by some anti-Turkish
organization in order to harm Turkey's public image ;-)
Oh well, TROLLS are coming and going, he will soon leave...
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
> mk5000
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>
>>
>> This is true and a couple a times a year the San Marco square is under
>> water.
>> Venetians are lying wooden corridors at about 50-60 cm above soil and the
>> tourists are walking on them !
>> The problem is becoming greater due the unusual multiplying of the
>> seaweeds
>> in the last decade, which contributes to the lowering of the oxygen
>> content
>> of the water in the lagoon and more stagnant waters...
>> Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
>> futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
>> Nothing solution chosen until now...
>>
>> [Christening]
>
> Do you know what wonderful poetic images happened in my head when you
> talked about dams and then the word christening.
>
> Took me a few seconds to realize it was due to snippage of the previous
> post, not the christening of the city
LOL
>> >> It was celebrated in a very beautiful small church build in the
>> >> Byzantine
>> >> times, everything was just beautiful!
>> >> And of course my daughter didn't stop crying during the whole ceremony
>> >> ;-)
>> >(1) Very romantic and (2) unavoidable :-)
>>
>> :-))))
> I have seen a few Byzantine style Greek churches in the US. They
> certainly won't compare to those in Greece of course, but I just love
> the ikonostas part (is that the right word).
Yes !
I think it must be the same in Ukrainian...
Or you are using a word close to the Latin equivalent, "altar" ?...
> I spend very much time
> staring at that, trying to figure out all the greek letters and
> guessing who the pictures are of based on the letters.
Well, if you are still capable of reading Cyrillic, then you should not have
great difficulties to read Greek...
PS
I think I have some pictures of the exterior of that church, if so I'll
put some pictures in my site later.
It's a small, humble church, if you are big enough you have to bow in order
to enter the church !
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
gogu
>> > gogu wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure you understand that...
> Oh yes, Gogu, I do.
Thanks mate :-)
You see, that demented Turkish TROLL is desperately trying to find something
to
compromise me.
He is mad he can't find anything, so he is trying with lies, attacks on my
children and wife, etc...
Typical of some NAZI Turks like him, he is rendering great help to his
country's public image ;-)
No problem, everybody knows by now what kind of filth he is ;-)
It's a pity though he is also harming the decent Turks...
Just continue to ignore him !
> Frank:
>> > Therefore, there are voices [mainly from the German conservatives
>> > (CDU/CSU) whose chancellor candidate is the - neither charming nor
>> > gorgeous at all - "Angie" Merkel] to offer Turkey (as a
>> > neighbouring country) only a special /preferred/ partnership rather
>> > than start negotiations for becoming a fully integrated EU member in
>> > about 1 or 2 decades - however, with the EU's option to deny a
>> > membership at the _end_ of such a long-term negotiation process (which
>> > would be considered disastrous).
> Gogu:
>> It makes sense but we must have in mind the full membership at the end of
>> the -lengthy...- road, I believe.
> Yes, I agree:
>
> (1) "We must do everything we can in order to bring Turkey in the
> 21st century and democratize it..."
Agreed (I think I said it :-)).
> (2) At the end of the negotiations in about 10 to 15 years (as
> officially expected), the final goal has to be a full membership.
Agreed.
> I've made an entry on the historic date of the formal beginning of
> the negotiations at www.haplif.de/61820.html (under 10/05).
Yes, but my German is practically inexistant ;-)
I could spot though the words "Europäische Union", "Türkei", "historischen
Tag", "Der türkische Außenminister Gül" ;-)
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
gogu
> gogu wrote:
>> Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
>> futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
>> Nothing solution chosen until now...
> Almost like in New Orleans.
Indeed.
> At some point, the engineers can _no more_ establish real safe
> construction measures.
This is true and that's why we engineers do not like it too much when we
have many solutions for one problem ;-)
The problem with all the solutions proposed for saving Venice from it's
problems is that every single one of them has some drawbacks, no one is
"perfect"...
Well, let's wait and see what's going to happen...
It reminds me a similar story some years ago with the Pisa tower, when the
engineers were debating and debating and debating what would be the best
solution for the tower.
After many years of interminable talking they actually chose one solution
which seems to be a good one, even not without drawbacks...
>
> [NYC - WTC]
>
> http://www.triroc.com/wtc
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811819108/103-9557141-0069469?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
>
> What can you - possibly - remark on those two links (above)
Couldn't tell Frank !
Looked again and again and saw no link to anything familiar !
One is a proposal for a memorial for the WTC, the other one is a book about
garden houses...
OK I give up, I don't know ;-)
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/d00029f30ac1b40e
>
> that Markika presented on 28th September as "gogu links"?
I missed that posting !
I surely don't know what she wanted to see in those links !
Marika ?
--
E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A
Coins, travels and more: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html
http://www.romclub.4t.com/rabin.html
marika
gogu wrote:
> It reminds me a similar story some years ago with the Pisa tower, when the
> engineers were debating and debating and debating what would be the best
> solution for the tower.
I feel they deserved to have gotten farther than they did.
> After many years of interminable talking they actually chose one solution
> which seems to be a good one, even not without drawbacks...
>
> >
> > [NYC - WTC]
> >
> > http://www.triroc.com/wtc
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0811819108/103-9557141-0069469?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
> >
> > What can you - possibly - remark on those two links (above)
>
> Couldn't tell Frank !
> Looked again and again and saw no link to anything familiar !
> One is a proposal for a memorial for the WTC, the other one is a book about
> garden houses...
> OK I give up, I don't know ;-)
>
> > http://groups.google.co.uk/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/d00029f30ac1b40e
> >
> > that Markika presented on 28th September as "gogu links"?
>
> I missed that posting !
> I surely don't know what she wanted to see in those links !
> Marika ?
>
nothing just but for you to see. I was fascinated that Donald Trump
(who is a popular cult figure here, what with his wealth and reality
show) had proposed an alternate NY solution to the trade towers.
The second, just found the ladies explanation of what she thought
innovative use of objects for decorating somewhat hackneyed, not
original.
mk5000
"That last time we said so long/we kept it simple didn't we? / I
hate to think of you alone / Oh when you went away. / I think I better
think again / Time never leaves me...unsure."--archer prewitt, think
again
marika
gogu wrote:
>
> Thanks mate :-)
> You see, that demented Turkish TROLL is desperately trying to find something
> to
> compromise me.
he is very bitter
mk5000
"On some old stage
And babe, how do these cheated stores get so far away
Will they catch you at the bottom
Hey Joe, where you goin'
With that dogma in your head?"--folded flag, pink floyd
marika
gogu wrote:
>
> Yes !
> I think it must be the same in Ukrainian...
> Or you are using a word close to the Latin equivalent, "altar" ?...
I am thinking strictly of those doors, gates or "indications of doors
and gates" in more modern churces, upon which icons are place.
>
> > I spend very much time
> > staring at that, trying to figure out all the greek letters and
> > guessing who the pictures are of based on the letters.
>
> Well, if you are still capable of reading Cyrillic, then you should not have
> great difficulties to read Greek...
except for the exact pronounciation, no trouble
>
marika
gogu wrote:
>
>
> :-)
> Thanks for understanding Marika !
glad to help
> It is so sad to see such extremist Turks like this TROLL damaging Turkey's
> public image...
gosh I didn't even really know that such people could retire.
It is a temporary job to fill
> Some times I wonder if he is really pro-Turkish or paid by some anti-Turkish
> organization in order to harm Turkey's public image ;-)
> Oh well, TROLLS are coming and going, he will soon leave...
>
mk5000
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> gogu wrote:
> > Frank Kalder wrote:
> >
> [Venice's risks]
>
> > This is true and a couple a times a year the San Marco square is under
> > water.
> > Venetians are lying wooden corridors at about 50-60 cm above soil and the
> > tourists are walking on them!
>
> Yes, we see this occasionally on TV.
how interesting.
>
> > The problem is becoming greater due the unusual multiplying of the seaweeds
> > in the last decade, which contributes to the lowering of the oxygen content
> > of the water in the lagoon and more stagnant waters...
> >
>
> ACK.
don't have a clue what they will do next.
>
> > Many solutions have been proposed, some of them realistic, some of them
> > futuristic; most of them base on the construction of moving dams.
> > Nothing solution chosen until now...
> >
>
> Almost like in New Orleans.
It has everything to do with funding though
> At some point, the engineers can _no more_ establish real safe
> construction measures.
thanks for the info
mk5000
"I must be the only one
not to get it
only me
lonely me"--ode to rpf, hubbardslave
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
.
>
> Let me add that the Germans and their neighbours in other countries are
> _reluctant_ to either write & say or read & hear that special
> abbreviation starting with "N" and ending with "I" any longer.
so what's the story on this?
mk5000
'tell me how to be the saint | even if i'm unblessed,
unholy'--unblessed saint
marika
Frank Kalder wrote:
> Well, "Kaiser Karl" is a real freaky dietmoufle. But, anyway, he
> has the guts to make money out of anything - although he won't need
> that anymore.
>
that;s interesting
why
I hadn't heard anything
mk5000
?: We ought to play a little fanfare!
Ian: What do you think?
Derek: Is this the test pressing?
Ian: No, this is it, yes, that's right...
David: This is "Smell The Glove" by Spinal Tap....