I have proof that JapMan, ChinaMan and KoreaMan are all the same !!!!
Rushgoolah
Giocangga, the grandfather of the founder of the Qing dynasty.
drydem
I suppose it's a great boost to the ego to have royal blood. :P
Rushgoolah the buffoon bellowed:
> JapMan, KoreaMan and ChinaMan are all 'descendants of one man' named
> Giocangga, the grandfather of the founder of the Qing dynasty.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4396246.stm
1.5 million is only a tiny minute fraction of the combined population
in China, Korea, and Japan. (9_9)
And that's a good thing too, since inbreeding is a bad thing. :)
hillaryC
found in the world.
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ancestor.
JapMan is not !!!!
hillaryC
by Giocangga.
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> KoreaMan and ChinaMan@are one word one sound, may be of same ancient
nkvd
Austin P. So (Hae-Jin)
This study only talks of Chinese, and how 1.5 million chinese have a
*single* manchurian non-Han man as their ancestor. FWIW, 1000 equally
prolific manchurians would yield the current population of chinese.
It says *nothing* about koreans or japanese.
Please read more carefully.
Austin
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earliest humans in Africa before they migrated throughout the world.
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Eden was in Africa?.
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Austin P. So (Hae-Jin) wrote:
> This study only talks of Chinese, and how 1.5 million chinese have a
> *single* manchurian non-Han man as their ancestor. FWIW, 1000 equally
> prolific manchurians would yield the current population of chinese.
>
> It says *nothing* about koreans or japanese.
>
> Please read more carefully.
>
> Austin
Long time no see, man. The article is available from American
Journal of Human Genetics. It shows 0% among Han chinese,
Koreans,Japanese, Uighurs etc.
This cluster is on C3c lineage prevalent in central asia but absent
among Koreans and Japanese. However C3xc lineage,more distant cousins
to this cluster, is quite prevalent in Korea, present in japan in a
lower frequency but nearly absent among han-chinese.
The famous Chinghis Khan star-cluster is also on C3xc. But this is
paraphyletic so being in C3xc does not necessarily mean they are more
closely related than to C3c.(RPS4Y711T defines C, M217(?) or something
defines C3, M48 defines C3c. C3xc means C3 but not M48 )
Oh man, chinese, cry babies,cry. You had been ruled by two foreign
dynasties who had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Han chinese
paternally.
Could you chinese finally admit that Ching(Qing) was NOT chinese?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is sort of the best scenario for Koreans. Koreans have no
direct male line descendents of Chinghis Khan nor Nurhachi.(in the case
of the Mongols, due to the absence of M48 prevalent among the Mongols,
I can even argue that Koreans have very few mongol descendents from the
13th century or later) However Koreans have a lot of lineages more
distantly related(sharing many common ancestors with these people 3000+
years ago) while the same cannot be said for chinese.
HAHAHA. The original poster, a buffoon, probably thought he was
proving that Koreans and Japanese were descedents of chinese. What a
fool. Thank yo, fool.
Y. Park
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identify with?
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tell you that Chinese aren't like Koreans like you relish the thought
of us being. We don't care what about the makeup of how someone
entered into the Chinese ethnic weave; although my great grandfather
cut off his Q when he settled in Canada, the treatment of the Last
Emperor and his family did engender Chinese sorrow although to be
honest, it may have been muted in that the last dynasty had two
exemplary emperors but only two. So Chinese dramas about that
dynasty usually focus on those excellent statesmen and the ruthless
Empress Dowager. We mind Japanese dishonesty about the war but we
appreciate Japanese shrewdness about Chinese problems and we know that
we are a long way from being caught up with the West but we don't see
Korea the way you would like us to see Korea.
There are a lot of everyday people who are Manchurian in China. What
do they tell you that has helped you form your opinion?
ypark
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> Well, if the Chinese were me ...but we don't see
> Korea the way you would like us to see Korea.
Fuck off. I absolutely don't care what chinamen think about us.
Don't flatter yourself. In the minds of most Koreans you are just
groveling little muddy pieces of shit.
>
> There are a lot of everyday people who are Manchurian in China.
That does not mean they are related to you in anyway. Genetics tells
you they aren't.
They may want to be chinese but that is entirely their own piggy
ambition.
"Manchus are not chinese. And chinese were their slaves." Repeat
after me 10000 times and you will see the celestial illumination.
Y. Park
Zuo Tung Jao Tsu
WWII. The Chinese government killed more Chinese and Tibetans than the
Japanese ever did to the Chinese people in WWII, as well as tortured and
maimed.
I am sure that Japan will eventually write about the World War II
attrocities in China in their textbooks as soon as China writes in their
own textbooks about the 40+ million killed by execution, starvation, and
forced labor camps, during Mao Zedong's regime from 1949 to 1975; and
about the 600,000 Tibetans who died in prisons and forced labor camps
between 1950 and 1984. I believe that Japan will eventually admit other
war attrocities as soon as China writes about the 300 killed and 3000+
injured during the 1989 Tiananmen Square protest.
Most Chinese people and I find it very difficult to trust the Chinese
government, when they are so hypocritical by trying to dictate how other
countries, like Japan, should write their textbooks while failing to
publish our own attrocities.
This situation only reinforces the stereotype of the sneakiness of the
Chinese, when their true political goal is to stir up anti-Japanese
sentiment in China and the world media to prevent Japan from attaining a
seat in the UN Security Council seat eariler this year.
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plastic surgeries to make them look more humans. And also explains why they
are so desperate to attack China and rape Chinese women, rather than fuck
their own kind.
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sense that one criminal refuses to admit his crime until everyone else
criticizes themselves first. Sorry, Chinese aren't raised to be
confused in THAT way. That's Japanese flavor. Do you think no one
else recognizes the taste?
No way will Japan's energetic regression to old anti-Chinese tactics be
excused or confused by Chinese. We saw through you before and we have
no problem doing so again despite Western media's assistance to Japan.
Do you think Lee Teng Hui's shrine visits are fooling anyone or
shaming us because we consider him as "one of our own." He's one of
yours. He's useless in Chinese media and he did that all by himself.
No one even bothers to be his enemy because he is walking toxic
leakage. Your mission which you have obviously chosen to accept is to
keep up Western support of your propaganda with faulty reasoning and
negative charisma wrapped up in tourist-appealing colors.
I agree with Japanese rightists. It's not over yet. It won't be over
until you stop. You either do it on your own initiative or you are
bankrupt and your identity is ERASED all because you couldn't be
broadminded and accept that everyone on this planet has a right to
First World development. Japan should be hugging its culture to itself
and moving back from materialism and back to family unity not this
nauseating need to be Supreme over other Asians by any means necessary.
Unassailable is not a mansion in the slums.
ypark
hillaryC wrote:
> Now that explains why the Koreans and the Japs are so desperate to go for
> plastic surgeries to make them look more humans. And also explains why they
> are so desperate to attack China and rape Chinese women, rather than fuck
> their own kind.
>
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Were you trying to do something here, chinky?
Your friends should surely hope that you weren't. Because if you were
that would be truly pathetic. You don't have it. Don't even try.
Manchu emperors might have bypassed fucking you little disgusting
chinese sows but other Manchu scoundrels apparently did not mind. They
rode your grannies day and night.
They pumped their manchu seeds into your chinese wombs to produce
millions and millions of vile and disgusting little chinks.
You are little ant-like a race millions of which can be stomped to
death in one afternoon without any need or time for a feeling of guilt.
Maybe if the person is truly tenderhearted, he may feel a bit uneasy.
But only as an afterthought.
Y.Park
hillaryC
Japan, because they knew that would ruin their future generations. They
fought for China with their lives, because they knew what is worth dying
for. Ha ha.
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Updated Nov.18,2005 18:48 KST
'Shadowless Sword' Delivers Formulaic Fun
When director Kim Young-jun, whose "Shadowless Sword" hits movie
theaters Friday, said he was going to make a breakthrough in Korean
martial arts movies, his chances of failure were good. But as easily
digestible commercial fare, the film delivers.
The year is 962 A.D. in the Balhae kingdom ravaged by the invasion of
Khitan -- Tungusic or Mongol residents of the southern part of what is
now Manchuria, Northeastern China.
In a country almost wiped off the face of the earth, the last survivor
of the dynasty, Dae Jeong-hyeon (Lee Seo-jin), ekes out a meager
existence in a frontier town while hiding his true identity. Then those
who dream of restoring the Balhae kingdom order the greatest woman
warrior Yeon So-ha (Yun Soy) to bring prince Jeong-hyeon back, but
those on Khitan's side -- Gun Hwa-pyeong (Shin Hyun-joon) and his
confidant Mae Yeoung-ok (Lee Ki-yong) -- are hot in pursuit, looking to
take his life.
The action scenes in "Shadowless Sword" thoroughly ignore the laws of
gravity, featuring 100 m dashes in the blink of an eye, walking on
water and flights across roofs and through midair. The wire stunts are
frankly a rehash of what the Chinese formula has been providing for
decades, but that, after all, is the biggest pleasure the genre has to
offer.
"Shadowless Sword" focuses on the showdown between Yun Soy and Lee
Ki-yong rather than the confrontation between Lee Seo-jin and Shin
Hyun-joon, staking the film's success largely on action stunts of
beautiful women. The visuals, to be fair, can be stunning.
The final confrontation is also quite stunning as the protagonists
cross swords while a purple cloth billows across the screen, although
the director appears to have borrowed the idea from Zhang Yimou's
"Lovers."
However, one of the drawbacks of "Shadowless Sword" is its failure
to breathe life into its characters. Shin Hyun-joon remains
unswervingly heroic throughout and Yun Soy appears completely bereft of
personal emotions, with each plainly representing the opposing values
of "good" and "evil." Lee Seo-jin plays the only dynamic character but
also fails to convince with his portrayal of the prince masquerading as
a pauper who goes on to rebuild his country.
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Chinese Favor Koreans But Respect U.S. Wealth: Survey
Following a boom in exports of Korean culture across Asia, a recent
study has found that Chinese people view Koreans in a more positive
light than they do the United States, Japan and Taiwan.
Prof. Lee Joon-ung of the Department of Communication at Seoul National
University published the findings of a survey Friday at an academic
seminar sponsored by the university's Institute of Korean Studies.
A survey of 800 Beijing citizens conducted on May 2004, suggests
Koreans are held to be kinder than the people of other nations included
in the survey. The Chinese awarded Korea the most points in this
category at 62, followed by Taiwan with 59, the U.S. with 57 and Japan
with 50.
Japan was the most competitive and menacing state from the Chinese
perspective with 53 points, and the U.S. came next with 50 points.
Taiwan trailed at 48 but was still seen as more threatening than Korea
with 45.
In terms of affluence and education, Koreans and Taiwanese scored 65
points. They were outranked, however, by Americans (75) and the
Japanese (68).
America also topped the list in terms of its people's general
competency. Koreans and Japanese placed second with 66 apiece and the
Taiwanese came last with 63.
Overall, Korea ranked as the most favorably-perceived state by the
Chinese in the poll. They awarded the country 60 points, one above
America and two above Taiwan. Japan lagged with 51 points.
"There is a correlation between age and a favorable perception of
Korea. The younger and higher educated a Chinese is, the more he
experiences Korean pop culture, such as dramas and movies. The more
often a Chinese experiences the Korean pop culture, the more likely he
views Korea as affluent and Koreans as capable and benign," Lee said.
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A romance set in an ancient Korean kingdom. Lots of high-quality
martial-art action scenes. Top Korean actors. A large-scale shooting in
mainland China. When director Kim Young-jun put together these elements
for his second film, even a major U.S. film distributor New Line Cinema
was impressed.
So New Line Cinema decided to join the project for "Shadowless Sword,"
which became the first-ever foreign film to receive the investment of
the American film distributor.
The epic-style film is now set to be released in the United States
early next year. Robert Remley, senior vice president of New Line
Cinema, said at a preview on Monday that he expects the film to be
widely screened in the American market, showing great optimism about
its commercial potential.
The primary appeal for Westerners, of course, is its Asian
(specifically Chinese) atmosphere. Intricate sets built up in mainland
Chinese cities lend authentic feel while eye-catching wire action
scenes where characters are literally flying all over are likely to
arrest the attention of Western moviegoers interested in Asia.
But the cultural and historical sword of "Shadowless Sword" cuts both
ways. It may be a well-made martial-art romance film, but it cannot be
classified as a movie which seriously tackles the turbulent chapter of
the ancient Korean history.
In the movie, the year is 926 and Balhae, a Korean kingdom founded near
Jilin in Manchuria in 698, is facing a collapse in the face of the
relentless attacks from the Khitan.
All the crown princes except for Dae Jeong-hyeon (Lee Seo-jin) are
assassinated by the Khitan, and Balhae people have little hope for
their country unless prince Jeong-hyeon, who was expelled to a remote
Chinese city due to the political infighting, returns miraculously.
The task is assigned to Yeon So-ha (Yoon Soy), one of Balhae's
top-rated female warriors. She finally meets Jeong-hyeon but the prince
is not that honorable person she has expected. Jeong-hyeon is keen on
solely protecting his own life, even using a variety of low-level
tricks, but doesn't care about the fate of the suffering Balhae. At
least not at this point.
Meanwhile, Gun Hwa-pyeong (Shin Hyun-joon), a chieftain of the Khitan,
and his female aide Mae Young-ok (Lee Ki-yong) are ordered to find and
kill the Balhae prince who is feared to give a false hope to the
declining Korean kingdom.
It turns out that Hwa-pyeong was a former Balhae citizen. Somehow, his
family got involved in a bloody political struggle, and he deserted his
nation and converted into a Khitan in order to get revenge for the
downfall of his family.
In all fairness, the action scenes are breathtakingly face-paced and
filled with seemingly risky motions that heighten suspense and tension.
Although some might view the aerial running of the main characters as
cartoonish, the overall effects of those action scenes spice up the
otherwise too straight storyline.
Actor Lee, who rose to stardom with a serialized television drama with
a similar martial-art romance theme here, seems to have gotten the gist
of the role which goes through a gradual transformation. Lee's acting
is full of confidence and even his change from a selfish merchant into
a noble prince is believable.
Actresses Yoon and Lee also play the key female characters with
graceful styles in a way that makes it entertaining to watch their
constant martial-art showdown.
"Shadowless Sword" follows the genre formula faithfully. Much of the
film relies on colorful and awe-inspiring action scenes that are speedy
and powerful. The storyline is simple and understandable, even in the
eyes of foreigners who have little knowledge about the ancient Korea.
However, this blockbuster film, which cost 8 billion won to produce and
aims the international film market, fails to reflect the Korean angle.
Balhae, or a kingdom known as Bohai for Chinese historians, is part of
the Korean history. But the movie does not show any sign of
Korean-ness: all the costumes, settings and landscapes are largely
Chinese.
Perhaps, Western viewers may not distinguish between Chinese and Korean
culture - no wonder a host of American movies put in Vietnamese or
Chinese props and insist they are Korean - but it is questionable why
director Kim does not care about putting in some Korean elements,
especially at a time when the Korean Wave is sweeping across Asia and
elsewhere.
The history of Balhae, which historically declared itself the successor
to Goguryeo (clearly Korean) Kingdom, is now one of the thorny areas
where Korean historians are fighting with Chinese counterparts for its
historical identity (Chinese side claims Balhae's history as its own).
It is a pity that while the nationalistic theme of the movie glories
the ancient Koreans' efforts to fight off the attacks of the Chinese
tribe, "Shadowless Sword" seems as Chinese as it can be.
By Yang Sung-jin
2005.11.17