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Warhol
May 5, 2012, 12:14:25 PM5/5/12
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UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
"purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
"tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
And after that, the UN can give back to the American people all the
national parks and land American presidents have signed over to it via
executive orders as collateral for some supposed "national debt" that is
in reality no debt of the American people to begin with...
lmao... soon we see a exodus out
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/05/11551618-un-official-us-must-return-control-of-sacred-lands-to-native-americans?lite
where will this all end... the question... of the topic... No a fly zone
above the USA???... to protect the Native Indians from Obamadaffi
So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
"purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
"tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
And after that, the UN can give back to the American people all the
national parks and land American presidents have signed over to it via
executive orders as collateral for some supposed "national debt" that is
in reality no debt of the American people to begin with...
lmao... soon we see a exodus out
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/05/11551618-un-official-us-must-return-control-of-sacred-lands-to-native-americans?lite
where will this all end... the question... of the topic... No a fly zone
above the USA???... to protect the Native Indians from Obamadaffi
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 5, 2012, 12:30:12 PM5/5/12
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Warhol
LIB Strategic Insanity at its finest.
A savage and primitive people
would not have the FIRST CLUE what to do with it.
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jun04/sagamori.htm
Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked
by a shark. He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a
pretty hopeless task. Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible
moment, and while he was standing, all wet, on deck and the
disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the air,
one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response
was, "You don't cut fish with a knife."
...
Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal
during a presidential campaign.They would gladly sacrifice the country
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
if only they could rule over its ruins.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100294.jpg
OBAMA has merely shown us how actually-easy it was to achieve.
"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07
LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/31/how-did-atlas-shrugged-and-ayn-
rand-predict-america-spinning-out-control/
How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?
How could she have painted villains who seem ripped from today’s
headlines?
There’s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs
screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.
There’s Eugene Lawson, “the banker with a heart,” who like former Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is ever
ready with a bailout.
There’s Mr. Thompson, who like President Obama seeks to rally the country
behind pious platitudes.
There’s Orren Boyle, who like President Bush says that we must abandon
free-market principles to save the free market.
HOW DID ALL THIS HAPPEN?
A: GOOD MEN DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.
> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
...
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
LIB Strategic Insanity at its finest.
A savage and primitive people
would not have the FIRST CLUE what to do with it.
http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jun04/sagamori.htm
Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked
by a shark. He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a
pretty hopeless task. Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible
moment, and while he was standing, all wet, on deck and the
disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the air,
one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response
was, "You don't cut fish with a knife."
...
Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal
during a presidential campaign.They would gladly sacrifice the country
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
if only they could rule over its ruins.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100294.jpg
OBAMA has merely shown us how actually-easy it was to achieve.
"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07
LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/31/how-did-atlas-shrugged-and-ayn-
rand-predict-america-spinning-out-control/
How Did Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'
Predict an America Spinning Out of Control?
How could she have painted villains who seem ripped from today’s
headlines?
There’s Wesley Mouch, who in the face of failed government programs
screams like Rep. Barney Frank (D) of Massachusetts for wider powers.
There’s Eugene Lawson, “the banker with a heart,” who like former Treasury
Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is ever
ready with a bailout.
There’s Mr. Thompson, who like President Obama seeks to rally the country
behind pious platitudes.
There’s Orren Boyle, who like President Bush says that we must abandon
free-market principles to save the free market.
HOW DID ALL THIS HAPPEN?
A: GOOD MEN DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.
Relayer447
May 5, 2012, 12:37:01 PM5/5/12
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R447
NEMO
May 5, 2012, 12:21:35 PM5/5/12
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Warhol , what a dork!
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David E. Powell
May 5, 2012, 12:47:26 PM5/5/12
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On May 5, 12:30 pm, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
MANFRED! Welcome back to USENET!
It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
Also, the UN gets a lot of their funding from the US which makes
things interesting. (Not to mention the UN building being in New
York.)
> Warhol> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> > So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> > 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> ...
>
> LIB Strategic Insanity at its finest.
>
> A savage and primitive people
> would not have the FIRST CLUE what to do with it.
>
> http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jun04/sagamori.htm
> Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
>
> A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked
> by a shark. He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a
> pretty hopeless task. Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible
> moment, and while he was standing, all wet, on deck and the
> disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the air,
> one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
> Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response
> was, "You don't cut fish with a knife."
> ...
> Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal
> during a presidential campaign.They would gladly sacrifice the country
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> if only they could rule over its ruins.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> This is Clinton's Bridge to the 21st Century.http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpghttp://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/100294.jpg
<ExPresid...@au.revoir.gov> wrote:
MANFRED! Welcome back to USENET!
It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
Also, the UN gets a lot of their funding from the US which makes
things interesting. (Not to mention the UN building being in New
York.)
> Warhol> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> > So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> > 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> ...
>
> LIB Strategic Insanity at its finest.
>
> A savage and primitive people
> would not have the FIRST CLUE what to do with it.
>
> http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jun04/sagamori.htm
> Staying Morally Superior to Sharks
>
> A young officer of Her Majesty's Navy fell overboard and was attacked
> by a shark. He tried to outswim it, which, as you understand, was a
> pretty hopeless task. Fortunately, he was saved at the last possible
> moment, and while he was standing, all wet, on deck and the
> disappointed shark was still snapping its terrible jaws in the air,
> one of the sailors asked him, "Lieutenant, you have your dagger on you.
> Why didn't you try to fight the shark off?" The lieutenant's response
> was, "You don't cut fish with a knife."
> ...
> Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal
> during a presidential campaign.They would gladly sacrifice the country
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> if only they could rule over its ruins.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> OBAMA has merely shown us how actually-easy it was to achieve.
>
> "We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
> as many people in the 21st century.
> What's the difference?
> This time, you think the victim could be you,"
> Clinton'07
>
> LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
> ---http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/31/how-did-atlas-shrugged-and-...
> OBAMA has merely shown us how actually-easy it was to achieve.
>
> "We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
> as many people in the 21st century.
> What's the difference?
> This time, you think the victim could be you,"
> Clinton'07
>
> LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
Warhol
May 5, 2012, 1:05:27 PM5/5/12
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Op 5-5-2012 18:37, Relayer447 schreef:
when was I anti American... For I struggle not against Americans... I
struggle against liars and deceivers... & Lunatics.
And my Gran'Da'Dy said it this way..
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places."
And never forget my Pirate ancestors created America... we are oldest
friends of American people you know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cNUXP1kZ-0
struggle against liars and deceivers... & Lunatics.
And my Gran'Da'Dy said it this way..
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high places."
And never forget my Pirate ancestors created America... we are oldest
friends of American people you know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cNUXP1kZ-0
Ivan I. Deer
May 5, 2012, 1:31:03 PM5/5/12
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Warhol
May 5, 2012, 1:50:23 PM5/5/12
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Op 5-5-2012 19:31, Ivan I. Deer schreef:
We should ask the question to the UN...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbx1f43Y9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbx1f43Y9A
raven1
May 5, 2012, 1:52:21 PM5/5/12
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>UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
>So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
>2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
>Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
>housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
>"purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
>those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
>"tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
Actually, the Dutch got ripped off. The Native Americans who "sold"
>
>So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
>2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
>Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
>housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
>"purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
>those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
>"tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
them Manhattan didn't own it.
---
raven1
aa # 1096
EAC Vice President (President in charge of vice)
BAAWA Knight
Free Lunch
May 5, 2012, 2:28:14 PM5/5/12
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 12:31:03 -0500, Ivan I. Deer <Iv...@swbell.net>
wrote in alt.atheism:
Where would the Bruces go?
wrote in alt.atheism:
Eugene Griessel
May 5, 2012, 2:31:34 PM5/5/12
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Op Sat, 05 May 2012 13:28:14 -0500, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
>>Should Australia be returned to the Aborigines?
>
>Where would the Bruces go?
What about hte Sheilas?
Eugene L Griessel
It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By
definition, there are already enough people to do that.
-- G. H. Hardy
wrote:
>>Should Australia be returned to the Aborigines?
>
>Where would the Bruces go?
Eugene L Griessel
It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By
definition, there are already enough people to do that.
-- G. H. Hardy
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 5, 2012, 2:32:01 PM5/5/12
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"David E. Powell"
Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
Property Rights are one's ONLY guarentor of Dissent.
It is the notion of Individual Right and the
Right to Dissent which is at issue whenever ceding
the unearned to the undeserving is brought up.
The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless
because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
Why shouldn't SOME be sacrificed that others may live?
Why shouldn't the Will of the People be Pre-eminent,
and in evidence everywhere yet existant in no one?
Why shouldn't the very same Politico's who have reduced the world
to the state that it is, sit on top calling the shots?
A world not much better than a log tumbling end over end down
the raging rapids, its people reduced to little more than ants
clinging to it for their very lives as absolute nuckleheaded
LIBs like OBAMA proclaim themselves:Kaptain!
LIB Strategic Insanity can and MUST be defeated.
---
If WAR is Hell, what comes after?
A: The LIBs who Proudly do unto their own
PRECISELY what they forbid us to do to our Adversaries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA IN A NUTSHELL.
http://www.libertylive.org/Uploads/The%20Debt%20Star.jpg
This is NOT the HOPE you have been searching for.
WATCH as your world ends,
*or* DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.
> It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
...
> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
Property Rights are one's ONLY guarentor of Dissent.
It is the notion of Individual Right and the
Right to Dissent which is at issue whenever ceding
the unearned to the undeserving is brought up.
The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless
because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
Why shouldn't SOME be sacrificed that others may live?
Why shouldn't the Will of the People be Pre-eminent,
and in evidence everywhere yet existant in no one?
Why shouldn't the very same Politico's who have reduced the world
to the state that it is, sit on top calling the shots?
A world not much better than a log tumbling end over end down
the raging rapids, its people reduced to little more than ants
clinging to it for their very lives as absolute nuckleheaded
LIBs like OBAMA proclaim themselves:Kaptain!
LIB Strategic Insanity can and MUST be defeated.
---
If WAR is Hell, what comes after?
A: The LIBs who Proudly do unto their own
PRECISELY what they forbid us to do to our Adversaries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA IN A NUTSHELL.
http://www.libertylive.org/Uploads/The%20Debt%20Star.jpg
This is NOT the HOPE you have been searching for.
WATCH as your world ends,
*or* DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.
Bill
May 5, 2012, 4:40:50 PM5/5/12
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In article <XnsA04A755245C74Ex...@69.16.185.250>,
ExPre...@au.revoir.gov says...
it...
--
William Black
When you hear the words 'Our people are our greatest asset' then it's
time to leave.
ExPre...@au.revoir.gov says...
>
> "David E. Powell"
> > It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
> > a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
> > last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
> > cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
> ...
>
> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>
That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> "David E. Powell"
> > It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
> > a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
> > last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
> > cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
> ...
>
> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>
it...
--
William Black
When you hear the words 'Our people are our greatest asset' then it's
time to leave.
Free Lunch
May 5, 2012, 4:45:02 PM5/5/12
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On Sat, 05 May 2012 18:32:01 GMT, MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
<ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote in alt.atheism:
>"David E. Powell"
>> It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
>> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
>> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
>> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
>...
>
>Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
Nope. What they had was communal or tribal property rights and they were
willing to sell property to Europeans at the beginning, to their great
harm.
>Property Rights are one's ONLY guarentor of Dissent.
>It is the notion of Individual Right and the
>Right to Dissent which is at issue whenever ceding
>the unearned to the undeserving is brought up.
>
Europeans refused to acknowledge the property rights of Native
Americans.
<ExPre...@au.revoir.gov> wrote in alt.atheism:
>"David E. Powell"
>> It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
>> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
>> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
>> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
>...
>
>Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
willing to sell property to Europeans at the beginning, to their great
harm.
>Property Rights are one's ONLY guarentor of Dissent.
>It is the notion of Individual Right and the
>Right to Dissent which is at issue whenever ceding
>the unearned to the undeserving is brought up.
>
Americans.
>
>The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless
>because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
>
I guess we need to abolish inheritance according to you.
>The LIBs ceaseless quest for the unearned remains forever ceaseless
>because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
>
HVAC
May 5, 2012, 5:24:35 PM5/5/12
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On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>
>>
>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>
>
> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> it...
The injuns were wasting the land.
>
>>
>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>
>
> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> it...
If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
It's a win-win.
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
Andrew Swallow
May 5, 2012, 5:34:24 PM5/5/12
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Andrew Swallow
Kerryn Offord
May 5, 2012, 6:03:51 PM5/5/12
to
On 5/6/2012 8:40 AM, Bill wrote:
> In article<XnsA04A755245C74Ex...@69.16.185.250>,
> ExPre...@au.revoir.gov says...
>>
>> "David E. Powell"
>>> It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
>>> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
>>> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
>>> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
>> ...
>>
>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>
>
> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> it...
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Territory
> In article<XnsA04A755245C74Ex...@69.16.185.250>,
> ExPre...@au.revoir.gov says...
>>
>> "David E. Powell"
>>> It is interesting they are calling for return of Indian land. There is
>>> a lot of land around the world that has changed ownership over the
>>> last 300 years and I am sure if you wanted to get into that, it would
>>> cover a lot of ground. (Ahem.)
>> ...
>>
>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>
>
> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> it...
>
Shows areas that were deemed "Indian Territory"
Kerryn Offord
May 5, 2012, 6:05:03 PM5/5/12
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On 5/6/2012 9:24 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>>
>>
>> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
>> it...
>
>
> The injuns were wasting the land.
> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
> It's a win-win.
It's funny how a lot of the land they were removed from was over
> On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>>
>>
>> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
>> it...
>
>
> The injuns were wasting the land.
> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
> It's a win-win.
valuable oil and minerals
Ivan I. Deer
May 5, 2012, 6:10:18 PM5/5/12
to
On Sat, 05 May 2012 17:24:35 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>>
>>
>> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
>> it...
>
>
>The injuns were wasting the land.
>If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
>it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
>It's a win-win.
>
Those people are very inventive. A few days ago I saw a 6-injun pickup
>On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
>>> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
>>>
>>
>> That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
>> it...
>
>
>The injuns were wasting the land.
>If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
>it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
>It's a win-win.
>
truck..one under the hood, three in the front seat and two in the
pickup's bed.
HVAC
May 5, 2012, 6:24:19 PM5/5/12
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On 5/5/2012 6:05 PM, Kerryn Offord wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The injuns were wasting the land.
>> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
>> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>>
>> It's a win-win.
>
> It's funny how a lot of the land they were removed from was over
> valuable oil and minerals
I wonder if I can go back to Ireland and claim *my* ancestral land?
>
>>
>>
>> The injuns were wasting the land.
>> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
>> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>>
>> It's a win-win.
>
> It's funny how a lot of the land they were removed from was over
> valuable oil and minerals
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Bill
May 5, 2012, 7:10:51 PM5/5/12
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In article <jo45qb$jkk$1...@hvac.motzarella.org>, mr....@gmail.com says...
I imagine the Amerindians don't either.
>
> On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
> >> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
> >>
> >
> > That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> > it...
>
>
> The injuns were wasting the land.
> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
> It's a win-win.
The UN doesn't think so.
> On 5/5/2012 4:40 PM, Bill wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Indian nations have no concept of ownership,
> >> and as a consequence only a very loose notion of property rights.
> >>
> >
> > That'll be why the US had to attack them repeatedly to move them off
> > it...
>
>
> The injuns were wasting the land.
> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
>
> It's a win-win.
I imagine the Amerindians don't either.
Bill
May 5, 2012, 7:11:51 PM5/5/12
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In article <jo49a9$5p9$2...@hvac.motzarella.org>, mr....@gmail.com says...
>
> On 5/5/2012 6:05 PM, Kerryn Offord wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The injuns were wasting the land.
> >> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> >> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
> >>
> >> It's a win-win.
> >
> > It's funny how a lot of the land they were removed from was over
> > valuable oil and minerals
>
>
> I wonder if I can go back to Ireland and claim *my* ancestral land?
If you'd got the paperwork the Amerindians have you probably could.
> On 5/5/2012 6:05 PM, Kerryn Offord wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The injuns were wasting the land.
> >> If we had given them lots of money, they would have spent
> >> it on firewater anyway. Now they have casinos.
> >>
> >> It's a win-win.
> >
> > It's funny how a lot of the land they were removed from was over
> > valuable oil and minerals
>
>
> I wonder if I can go back to Ireland and claim *my* ancestral land?
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 5, 2012, 7:39:06 PM5/5/12
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Fred J. McCall
> Kerryn Offord
> Mostly funny because it's untrue. Nobody gave a shit about oil when
> American Indians were being herded into reservations. It's one of the
> reasons that some tribes are filthy rich out of oil money now.
There is NO CONFLICT among those who do not desire the unearned.
Those who do are herded into prisons where they have no rights whatsoever.
Had indians even a modicum of understanding of the market value of tobacco,
could make a decent cigaratte, and show the white-man a good time with booze,
slots, lotto, and toppless parties two centuries ago they would be
running this country by know.
BOO-F-HOO.
> Kerryn Offord
> American Indians were being herded into reservations. It's one of the
> reasons that some tribes are filthy rich out of oil money now.
There is NO CONFLICT among those who do not desire the unearned.
Those who do are herded into prisons where they have no rights whatsoever.
Had indians even a modicum of understanding of the market value of tobacco,
could make a decent cigaratte, and show the white-man a good time with booze,
slots, lotto, and toppless parties two centuries ago they would be
running this country by know.
BOO-F-HOO.
Tronscend
May 5, 2012, 10:24:02 PM5/5/12
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"Free Lunch" <lu...@nofreelunch.us> skrev i melding
news:m64bq7lu6b4aojqr3...@4ax.com...
>>DEMAND COMPETANCE.
Now there's a winner.
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 5, 2012, 11:25:51 PM5/5/12
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If the President's Staff
can't be trusted NOT to STIFF HOOKERS overseas
why not expect go for broke and ask for what we REALLY NEED?
DEMAND THE END OF SPAM RE-MAILERS.
DEMAND THE TAKEDOWN OF SHAMELESS RETAIL POLITICOS
DEMAND THE TAKEDOWN OF SPYWARE AND PRIVACY PROFILERS.
DEMAND THE END TO OBAMA'S HOMEGROWN STASI-LIKE THUGS....
(Yeah, we know who YOU are).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5yhxqkJiAQ&feature=player_embedded
OBAMA's TRUTH SQUADS:: They're the one's wearing the masks.
OBAMA's TRUTH SQUADS:: $8TRILLION IN THE MAKING
http://www.dhsnnw.org/careers.html
Neighborhood Network Watch Job Opportunities
FAQ.
Q: If the Neighborhood Network Watch is not a government agency
then what is it?
A: The Neighborhood Network Watch is a community based and staffed
organization much liken to a Neighborhood Watch, but for network
security.
Q: What does the Neighborhood Network Watch do?
A: The Neighborhood Network Watch, goes out into the community to
identify publicly used networks and to collect samples of network
traffic or data that is being transmitted and received over the
network. This data is then analyzed to see if it contains any
terrorist related or threatening network traffic that maybe
endangering both the community and our nation.
Q: Isn’t this invading my privacy?
A: In many ways yes, but in a post 9-11 world the government and most
communities across the United States, believe that these sorts of
measures are necessary to prevent our nation from being attacked
by ruthless terrorists. In fact privacy is a relative term with a
definition that is constantly being redefined. Especially so in
the highly technologically mediated world we live in today.
"it is wrong to believe that if security is embraced,
liberty is sacrificed."
Janet Napolitano'10
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/163419.jpg
CLOWN
Should Good Men continue to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?
And if they do, how will they know when they're done?
A: When the LIBs achieve the world where the dead, the Dying,
the DISSENTING are carted away in boxcars that run night and
to smokestacks that billow without end. NEVER AGAIN!
When the TRUTH becomes a Liability ALL PEOPLE become the Enemy.
The fact is, EVIL has NO POWER when the Good remain Unafraid....
Join HER.
http://dogpossum.org/archives/image/aeonflux.jpg
or Join THEM.
http://www.drudgereport.com/tsa.jpg
LIBs need you to live in Fear for having abandoned your
only means of Survival, and GUILT for knowing
that you have done so willingly.
LIBS. What PRICE their Vision?
---
LIBs plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as its standard of
Value, making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of
Values which one is willing to Betray.
"We Tried It. It's Not Like We Did Not Try"
OBAMA'12 on Free Markets.
DESERVE FREEDOM
IMAGINE NO LIBS.
Free Lunch
May 5, 2012, 11:49:11 PM5/5/12
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On Sun, 6 May 2012 04:24:02 +0200, "Tronscend" <tron...@frizurf.no>
wrote in alt.atheism:
Please, give credit where it is due: Manfred.
wrote in alt.atheism:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 6, 2012, 2:09:18 AM5/6/12
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Free Lunch
>>>>DEMAND COMPETENCE.
In any conflict between Good and Evil,
the more consistent Prevails,
and the most committed Wins.
I believe we have a BINGO.
LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
History repeats itself, first as Tragedy, then as FARCE.
Sooner or later you figure out that pragmatism and compromise
are principles in a democracy. It's not selling out your convictions.
-- CLINTON'05.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/newshutr/clintons_new_book.jpg
EIGHT Years of BUBBA in a Nutshell.
"And with Ipods and Ipads; and Xboxes and Playstations-none of which
I know how to work, information becomes a distraction, a form of
entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than a means
of emancipation."
-- OBAMA'10, rationalizing why he
misunderestimated the Arab-Spring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR Years of OBAMA in a Nutshell
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an unacceptable risk of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09
"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07
OBAMA's ready to show us the world actually easy it really was.
Why shouldn't the Guilty be Rewarded?
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 04:24:02 +0200, "Tronscend"
>>"Free Lunch"
>>>>DEMAND COMPETENCE.
>>
>>
>>Now there's a winner.
>>
> Please, give credit where it is due: Manfred.
Pity for the Guilty is Treason to the Innocent.
>>
>>Now there's a winner.
>>
> Please, give credit where it is due: Manfred.
In any conflict between Good and Evil,
the more consistent Prevails,
and the most committed Wins.
I believe we have a BINGO.
LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
Sooner or later you figure out that pragmatism and compromise
are principles in a democracy. It's not selling out your convictions.
-- CLINTON'05.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/newshutr/clintons_new_book.jpg
EIGHT Years of BUBBA in a Nutshell.
"And with Ipods and Ipads; and Xboxes and Playstations-none of which
I know how to work, information becomes a distraction, a form of
entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than a means
of emancipation."
-- OBAMA'10, rationalizing why he
misunderestimated the Arab-Spring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR Years of OBAMA in a Nutshell
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an unacceptable risk of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09
"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07
Why shouldn't the Guilty be Rewarded?
jonathan
May 6, 2012, 9:07:31 AM5/6/12
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"Warhol" <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jo3jl0$8bs$1...@dont-email.me...
> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is housed
> on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was "purchased"
> from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know those "evil"
> Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have "tricked" the
> Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
Where I live we did give their lands back.
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is housed
> on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was "purchased"
> from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know those "evil"
> Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have "tricked" the
> Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
"This is a proud moment for the Seminole Tribe
of Florida and for all Indian tribes," said Mitchell
Cypress, chairman of the Tribal Council.
"Our ancestors sold Manhattan for trinkets," Osceola said.
"Now, with the acquisition of the Hard Rock Cafe, we're
going to buy Manhattan back one hamburger at a time."
Osceola spoke at a news conference announcing the deal
with British company Rank Group PLC for Hard Rock's
casinos, restaurants, hotels...
"U.S. tribes now have more than $22 billion in annual
revenues from gambling, according to government figures.
"In 2003, one year before the Seminole Hard Rock opened
in Hollywood, each member made $36,000 per year, and
that jumped to about $50,000 in late 2004, according to
tribal members.
The tribe's expanding finances and gambling influence has
translated into greater wealth for its nearly 3,300 members.
Each Seminole, children and adults alike, receives a monthly
dividend check of $7,000, or $84,000 annually, as his or
her share of money made from the casinos.
In addition to its two Seminole Hard Rock hotels and casinos,
the Seminole Tribe owns and operates five other casinos in
Florida. More than 90 percent of the tribe's budget now
comes from gambling.
In Florida alone, the Seminoles' seven casinos and the one
Miccosukee casino generated an estimated $1.3 billion in
revenue last year.
http://www.indiancountrynews.info/fullstory.cfm-ID=527.htm
With all the gambling, maybe now they're taking
advantage of us?
s
Andrew Chaplin
May 6, 2012, 9:27:21 AM5/6/12
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"jonathan" <wr...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:IKadndaafKX16jvS...@giganews.com:
> Where I live we did give their lands back.
<snip>
> In Florida alone, the Seminoles' seven casinos and the one
> Miccosukee casino generated an estimated $1.3 billion in
> revenue last year.
> http://www.indiancountrynews.info/fullstory.cfm-ID=527.htm
>
> With all the gambling, maybe now they're taking
> advantage of us?
Well, at least those of whom advantage is being taken volunteer for it.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
news:IKadndaafKX16jvS...@giganews.com:
> Where I live we did give their lands back.
> In Florida alone, the Seminoles' seven casinos and the one
> Miccosukee casino generated an estimated $1.3 billion in
> revenue last year.
> http://www.indiancountrynews.info/fullstory.cfm-ID=527.htm
>
> With all the gambling, maybe now they're taking
> advantage of us?
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
Tronscend
May 6, 2012, 9:32:22 AM5/6/12
to
news:r4tbq7t3o01acie5n...@4ax.com...
Sorry for illustrating my words with actions ....
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
May 6, 2012, 12:02:53 PM5/6/12
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"Tronscend"
> "Free Lunch"
>>>
>>>>>DEMAND COMPETENCE.
remains ceaseless, because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
LIBs would have you pity the Devil for being EVIL.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/160688.jpg
What do you mean WE Paleface?
LIB Hypocracy,
Characterized for those with eyes that do not refuse to see.
---
A Taxpayer voting for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders...
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/123755.jpg
> "Free Lunch"
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 04:24:02 +0200, "Tronscend"
>>>"Free Lunch"
>>>
>>>>>DEMAND COMPETENCE.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now there's a winner.
>>>
>> Please, give credit where it is due: Manfred.
>
> Sorry for illustrating my words with actions ....
Once again the LIBs Ceasless Quest for the Unearned
>>>
>>>Now there's a winner.
>>>
>> Please, give credit where it is due: Manfred.
>
> Sorry for illustrating my words with actions ....
remains ceaseless, because the Value illicitly obtained retains no Value.
LIBs would have you pity the Devil for being EVIL.
http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/160688.jpg
What do you mean WE Paleface?
LIB Hypocracy,
Characterized for those with eyes that do not refuse to see.
---
A Taxpayer voting for OBAMA is like a Chicken voting for Col. Sanders...
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/123755.jpg
Thomas Heger
May 7, 2012, 4:11:49 PM5/7/12
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Am 05.05.2012 18:14, schrieb Warhol:
> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
> housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
> "purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
> those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
> "tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
>
> UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> So Drudge has the following headline currently posted today on May 5,
> 2012: UN: USA should return stolen land to Indian tribes...
>
> Okay, I say we start by giving back the land the United Nations is
> housed on in the New York City borough of Manhattan -- land which was
> "purchased" from Native Americans for $24 of trinkets since we all know
> those "evil" Anglo-Christian traders from Holland in reality must have
> "tricked" the Indians into accepting such a shoddy offer...
>
> And after that, the UN can give back to the American people all the
> national parks and land American presidents have signed over to it via
> executive orders as collateral for some supposed "national debt" that is
> in reality no debt of the American people to begin with...
The USA has strange laws. But nations are not owners of the land. The
> national parks and land American presidents have signed over to it via
> executive orders as collateral for some supposed "national debt" that is
> in reality no debt of the American people to begin with...
USA is a piece of the surface of the Earth, surrounded by a border. This
piece of land IS the USA. So the USA cannot buy or sell a piece of the
nation. Only politicians could sell property of the nation, but not the
nation itself.
All the people living legitimately within this borders are citizens of
the United States, what would include native Americans.
These tribes are often called 'nation', but the term nation refers to
the entire USA. The tribes are owners of some areas. Their land has been
robbed by American (and foreign) solders, companies and individuals.
If there are still tribes, from which land was stolen and the current
owner could be identified, than possibly the owner had to return it. (In
Germany we have 'Verjährung'. This means, that someone has to claim his
rights within one generation - 30 years - or the rights are lost).
Anyhow - the case is between the former and the current owner of a patch
of land. To decide such a case it takes an appropriate law and a court.
The UN is now not the organisation, that makes laws. Laws are made by
the legislative branch of the government. The UN can only make general
statements and demand, that certain subjects have to be solved. But
reverting 18th and 19th century injustice could only be done now, if
current injustice is created.
Usually it is a good idea to settle subjects in a certain limit, what
would be clearly exceeded in this case.
Bill
May 7, 2012, 4:28:12 PM5/7/12
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In article <a0qoku...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...
>
> All the people living legitimately within this borders are citizens of
> the United States, what would include native Americans.
>
I thought they, technically, weren't.
> All the people living legitimately within this borders are citizens of
> the United States, what would include native Americans.
>
Thomas Heger
May 9, 2012, 1:15:03 AM5/9/12
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Am 07.05.2012 22:28, schrieb Bill:
> In article<a0qoku...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...
>>
>
>> All the people living legitimately within this borders are citizens of
>> the United States, what would include native Americans.
>>
>
> I thought they, technically, weren't.
>
??
> In article<a0qoku...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...
>>
>
>> All the people living legitimately within this borders are citizens of
>> the United States, what would include native Americans.
>>
>
> I thought they, technically, weren't.
>
I would guess, the so called Indians are citizens of the USA.
But I'm not sure about this and it would surprise me, if the US found
ways to reject their citizenship.
(Actually these people have nothing to do with India, so 'Indians' is a
VERY silly name.)
But how do you define 'citizen of the USA', if people, that lived in the
USA for millennia would be excluded?
TH
Jim H.
May 9, 2012, 9:03:28 AM5/9/12
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On May 9, 1:15 am, Thomas Heger <ttt_...@web.de> wrote:
.......>
Thank an Italian working for the Spanish for that misnomer.....
Columbus thought he was _way_ further west than he was.
Jim H.
.......>
> (Actually these people have nothing to do with India, so 'Indians' is a
> VERY silly name.)
>
..............
> VERY silly name.)
>
Thank an Italian working for the Spanish for that misnomer.....
Columbus thought he was _way_ further west than he was.
Jim H.
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