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Ishtar

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24 Sept 2008, 09:08:5024/09/2008
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I've just finished reading a book titled "THE CELTIC GODS - Comets in
Irish Mythology" by Patrick McCafferty and Mike Baillie.

I came up through the Irish educational system, bejayzizz, and was fed
certain sanitised versions of the stories about Fionn MacCumhaill,
Cuchulainn, Queen Maeve and the Tain Bo Cualinge....... I wasn't
really concentrating and it never occurred to me that these fantastic
tales were anything other than exaggerated depictions of ancient inter-
tribal or civil wars among our ancestors.

As I said, the versions of the stories that were peddled in the
classrooms were sanitised. The original versions are much more thought
provoking.

Immanuel Velikovsky has been an inspiration to me and the world is
forever in his debt. Terrible things have happened on this earth
within the past ten thousand years. And terrible apparitions have
appeared in the sky in the past ten thousand years.

Obviously it would be a great affront to the prejudices of Irish
Catholics if I were to suggest that the Virgin Mary is a planet or a
comet, and worse still to suggest that Jesus Christ is a planet or a
comet. But it's better to be "offended" than to go on living a lie,
bejayzizz.

What does "The Ascension into Heaven" mean?

What does "The Rapture of the saints" among Christian fundamentalists
mean?

How can a person ascend into heaven or be "raptured?"

Easy.

Velikovsky would have it that when "Ishtar" approached close to the
earth, gravity went into reverse, as Ishtar's gravitational pull was
greater than that of the earth for just a few minutes, and some of the
people standing on the earth's surface started "falling into Ishtar."
Then Ishtar moved on, the gravitational anomaly passed, and we had to
forget the terrifying nature of the catastrophe, and so we
romaniticised it in religious symbolism such as the "secret rapture of
the saints" and also the tradition of Enoch and Methuselah and the
Virgin Mary and others "ascending into
heaven," ............................as well as all these strange
stories in Celtic and English mythology about Cuchullain and King
Arthur and Merlin..... all of them comets or planet gods.....

I'll reproduce here my section titled "THE LEGION OF MARY" - which is
all about PLANET GODS.

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THE LEGION OF MARY

The Legion of Mary is a subgroup within the Roman Catholic Church. In
Dublin its headquarters are at Morning Star Avenue, in the middle of a
seedy, run down district, north of the river, off the tourist trail.
The oratory (chapel) in Morning Star Avenue is not open to the public.
I have been inside it, and was both fascinated and disturbed by what I
saw there.

Behind the altar, covering the entire wall from one side of the chapel
to the other, is a giant mural. The predominant colour is a sombre
grey. The scene depicted is gloomy and ominous, stirring emotions of
inarticulate awe deep within the heart of the observer. Most visitors
do not understand why they find the image so disquieting. To the
trained eye, however, the scene is instantly recognizable as a
representation of what the sky looked like during the first Venus
catastrophes, 3,400 years ago. The artist knew what he was drawing,
and he also knew how far he could go, so as to say what needed to be
said while keeping the image sufficiently ambiguous. Ambiguity is
fundamental to the Christian religion. Constantine’s achievement was
to enable us to forget our past while allowing us to continue to gaze
upon thinly disguised pictorial images of what we are trying so hard
to forget.

The next shock was the ‘Catena Legionis,’ a prayer which the Legion of
Mary recites daily throughout the world, and which you wont hear
elsewhere in the Catholic liturgy, though a garbled version of it
might surface in today’s Druidic or Wiccan revivals, and in Satanic*
rituals.

(*It is important to grasp the fact that Satan and Mary are one and
the same; Satan and Mary are only two of about a hundred names for a
composite ‘rogue planet,’ which repeatedly passed close to the
earth.)

The Catena Legionis, recited daily throughout the world in Legion of
Mary chapels, begins and ends with the antiphon:

Who is She that comes forth as the morning rising,
fair as the moon, bright as the sun,
terrible as an army set in battle array?

Immediately after that comes the Hebrew ‘Magnificat,’ which
Constantine hijacked from the Jews, and which includes the words:

He looks on his servant in her lowliness;

So which is it, then?

Which one is Mary?

Are we talking about a pregnant teenager in Palestine – a servant in
her lowliness – or are we talking about something else, something
‘bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in battle array?’

Both have the name ‘Mary.’

So what is going on here?

The customer is always right. Constantine desperately needed a
universal state religion to hold the decaying empire together for a
while longer. His customers desperately needed to forget the
interplanetary near-collisions which are the basis of all our
religions. Christianity therefore was devised as a major step along
the road of sinking deeper into amnesia with regard to the
catastrophes. It suited both Constantine and his customers.

Remember the references to ‘the queen’s dignity’ in the section titled
‘HUMAN SACRIFICE.’ Constantine was fearful of losing his ‘dignity’ in
a poleshift too. The expected poleshift had not materialized in the
time of Jesus. Constantine and all other emperors wanted to forget the
dreaded threat of ‘loss of dignity’ which a poleshift brought to
ruling elites. As the anticipated catastrophe had not come in the time
of Jesus, it was tempting for Constantine to assume that perhaps we
can forget about it altogether and that emperors can just get on with
the job of consolidating their power and looting the earth. So both
ruling elites and the masses wanted this new religion which would sink
us all deeper into collective amnesia with regard to the horrors of
the poleshifts. Christianity was designed for that purpose – to help
us to forget our true history, to enable us to sink deeper into
amnesia - and that explains its amazing success. The customer is
always right.

However, you can’t supplant the planet-god religions just like that.
The planet-god religions are archetypal and these archetypes cannot be
erased from the collective human consciousness. When the Spanish
imposed Christianity at the point of the sword in South America, the
old planet-god idols were secretly retained by the natives and can
still be seen today in Catholic churches in that region. So why fight
it? Constantine was wise enough to do it the easy way, disguising the
planet-gods by transmuting them into the half-man-half-planet, Jesus,
and the half-woman-half-planet, Mary, and personalising the comets and
bolides as ‘angels,’ graded in accordance with their brightness in the
sky, while retaining the image of ‘the cross’ - because a Shining
Cross In The Sky is the appearance of the planet-gods Jesus and Mary
at a certain distance from the earth, approaching and departing - and
substituting a man-god’s death and resurrection for the archetypal
death and resurrection of the series of planet-gods which had shone so
brightly, then waned into darkness, then resurrected themselves as
their orbits brought them (or another planet) back near the earth
again. Thus the statues and pictures of the planet-god ‘Mary,’ which
you can examine in your local Catholic church today, are identical in
all essentials to the statues and pictures of the same planet-god by
other names such as Ishtar, which you can dig up from the ruins of
ancient pre-Christian temples. Constantine did not make the mistake of
trying to destroy the archetypes, the mistake which the Spanish thugs
were later to make in South America at the cost of much bloodletting,
and to no avail, because the archetypal planet-god images still
survive to this day in Catholic churches in South America.

Who is She that comes forth as the morning rising,
fair as the moon, bright as the sun,
terrible as an army set in battle array?

That is an expression of our ancestors’ ABSOLUTE TERROR at the
anticipated reappearance of the dreaded Star of the Morning (which is
another appellation of Mary, Queen of Heaven, in the exoteric Catholic
liturgy). What is happening here is that the Legion of Mary, a
subgroup of the Roman Catholic Church, is still chanting an English
translation of the ancient Babylonian hymn of fear and supplication to
Venus / Ishtar. This is in keeping with Constantine’s formula - to
forget and not to forget, to know and not to know.

As indicated earlier in ‘SEX SCANDAL,’ the planet-god in question was
renamed Mary by the revisionists and infiltrators in first-century
Palestine after the failed poleshift prophet and failed sex maniac
called Jesus had run away. Constantine was to finish the job which the
Pauline infiltrators started. The psychological need to sink ourselves
deeper into amnesia prompted this ‘double take,’ whereby Mary is both
the pregnant teenager and the dreaded Star of the Morning. The
Babylonian hymn of fear continues to live on in the Legion of Mary
chapels to this day, because those ancient prayers of supplication to
Venus / Ishtar are associated with survival benefits in the collective
racial consciousness.

Check it out for yourself in your own town. When I had a closer look
at the statue of Mary in my local Catholic church (and it’s a fairly
recent statue), I noticed that - instead of a crescent ‘moon’ under
her feet - “the horns of Ishtar” are openly displayed, shaped exactly
like a cow’s horns, and sticking out from under Mary’s skirt on both
sides, level with her ankles. If this ‘person’ we worship so fervently
really IS that pregnant teenage girl in Palestine, then why does she
almost invariably have either a crescent ‘moon’ under her feet, or
alternatively two cow’s horns sticking out from under her skirt, as
well as all those stars around her head?

Often there is a snake/serpent/dragon sticking out from under Mary’s
skirt too. An ancient battle between a woman and a serpent/dragon is a
near-universal tradition on about half of the globe (the half of the
globe where Mary was above the horizon), and is often linked with a
new type of agriculture. Look again at the Queen of Heaven
illustration.

Why doesn’t someone explain?

[End of section titled "The Legion of Mary."]

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Mary, Ishtar, Jesus Christ, the Hindu Gods, the South American gods,
the native North American gods, the Chinese Gods, the Mauri gods, the
Australian Aboriginal gods..... etc. etc. .... all are planets or
comets.....
The Secret Rapture of the saints / ascension into heaven is an echo of
the terrifying memory of Ishtar's close approach to earth 3,400 years
ago when gravity was reversed and people started "falling into
Ishtar." A lousy way to die, for jayzizz sake.........

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Incidentally, my reason for taking such a strong interest in "THE
CELTIC GODS - Comets in Irish Mythology" is that it reveals that there
was a cometary event in the sixth century AD which produced terrifying
apparitions in the sky, and an environmental downturn [NOT a
poleshift, NOT a change in the calendar, and only a relatively limited
global direness, but not on the scale of the survivalist emergency of
3,400 years ago].

What I am actually wanting to convey most of all now, is that the
cometary event revealed by McCafferty and Baillie which occured in the
sixth century AD, and gave rise to some of the Cuchullain and
Arthurian myths, ALSO GAVE RISE TO THE EMERGENCE OF THE ISLAMIC
RELIGION - because the terrifying images in the sky at the time
resonated with the earlier images which had given rise to the cult of
Ishtar / Mary and the strange prayers still being recited to this day
in the Legion of Mary chapels, as quoted above.

All things are connected.

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"THE CELTIC GODS - Comets in Irish History" by Patrick McCafferty and
Mike Baillie"
Tempus Publishing Limited, UK, 2005.

Meta

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24 Sept 2008, 22:31:2224/09/2008
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> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-------------------------

>
> Mary, Ishtar, Jesus Christ, the Hindu Gods, the South American gods,
> the native North American gods, the Chinese Gods, the Mauri gods, the
> Australian Aboriginal gods..... etc. etc. .... all are planets or
> comets.....
> The Secret Rapture of the saints / ascension into heaven is an echo of
> the terrifying memory of Ishtar's close approach to earth 3,400 years
> ago when gravity was reversed and people started "falling into
> Ishtar." A lousy way to die, for jayzizz sake.........
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-------------------------

>
> Incidentally, my reason for taking such a strong interest in "THE
> CELTIC GODS - Comets in Irish Mythology" is that it reveals that there
> was a cometary event in the sixth century AD which produced terrifying
> apparitions in the sky, and an environmental downturn [NOT a
> poleshift, NOT a change in the calendar, and only a relatively limited
> global direness, but not on the scale of the survivalist emergency of
> 3,400 years ago].
>
> What I am actually wanting to convey most of all now, is that the
> cometary event revealed by McCafferty and Baillie which occured in the
> sixth century AD, and gave rise to some of the Cuchullain and
> Arthurian myths, ALSO GAVE RISE TO THE EMERGENCE OF THE ISLAMIC
> RELIGION - because the terrifying images in the sky at the time
> resonated with the earlier images which had given rise to the cult of
> Ishtar / Mary and the strange prayers still being recited to this day
> in the Legion of Mary chapels, as quoted above.
>
> All things are connected.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­---------------------

>
> "THE CELTIC GODS - Comets in Irish History" by Patrick McCafferty and
> Mike Baillie"
> Tempus Publishing Limited, UK, 2005.

So.....Jesus was a sex maniac and Mary was his whore? Is this what
you are trying to pass off as fact? But then you go onto say that
Mary is actually Satan? I say to you this, how were Jesus teachings
so wrong? Isn't it more or less what the Christians did, rather than
his teachings that are wrong.

Jesus never suggested murder to be the answer to anything, and yet
look at how many men and women will murder in the name of Christ?
Ghandi was the only one that got it right. I believe he said
something to the effect of, if everyone believed in "and eye for an
eye and a tooth for a tooth" - all the world would be blind and
toothless.

Ishtar

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25 Sept 2008, 12:32:3025/09/2008
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On 25 Sep, 03:31, Meta <Metare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "THE CELTIC GODS - Comets in Irish History" by Patrick McCafferty and
> Mike Baillie"
> Tempus Publishing Limited, UK, 2005.

> So.....Jesus was a sex maniac and Mary was his whore?  Is this what
> you are trying to pass off as fact?  But then you go onto say that
> Mary is actually Satan?  I say to you this, how were Jesus teachings
> so wrong?  Isn't it more or less what the Christians did, rather than
> his teachings that are wrong.
>
> Jesus never suggested murder to be the answer to anything, and yet
> look at how many men and women will murder in the name of Christ?
> Ghandi was the only one that got it right.  I believe he said
> something to the effect of, if everyone believed in "and eye for an
> eye and a tooth for a tooth" - all the world would be blind and
> toothless.

=========================================

We can agree on many things. For example, I know God exists as the
Creative Power behind the universe.
If we were to talk it all through to the end, I expect that what I
would like to see happening in this world is much the same as what you
would like to see.

Gandhi - was he "right, but at the wrong time?"
In that time and place, India-Pakistan 1947, did Gandhi
unintentionally make the post-colonial bloodbath even worse than it
otherwise would have been, by emasculating the Hindus and leaving them
less able to defend themselves when the bloodletting commenced?
Remember, the bible also said:
"For everything there is a season
And a time for every purpose under heaven.....
...a time for war, a time for peace....."

When I said "Mary is Satan," I meant that both are humanised planets
or comets, just like the Irish Cuchullain.
The Legion of Mary prayer confirms that Mary is a humanised planet or
comet.
In illustrated bibles you can see "Satan" placed up in the sky above
Adam and Eve as they were driven from the Garden of Eden.
There is an essence of historical truth in such images. It was a
global catastrophe caused by a passing *rogue planet* (Satan, and a
hundred other names) which ended the sane civilisation of eleven
thousand years ago.

Jesus existed, and when I wrote "Sex Scandal" I was speculating as to
what really was going on 2,000 years ago to cause such a stir.
According to Velikovsky, it is explained by a 700-year "periodicity of
frenzy" in the collective human consciousness, which causes us to get
a little bit hysterical every 700 years, because two forgotten
catastrophes occurred at an interval of 700 years apart a few thousand
years ago. Given that Jesus called himself the King of the tribe, it's
a fact that all Kings at that time enjoyed access to a harem of about
a thousand sex slaves.

Jesus's teachings on ethics are beautiful. It's not an exact science,
but I speculated that these teachings are timeless and existed long
before 2,000 years ago in lost manuscripts and oral traditions.
But Jesus also kept referring repeatedly to something about to appear
in the sky, and that people would be running to take shelter in the
caves when this 'sign' appeared in the sky. See
Luke 21 : 6 /
Luke 21 : 25 /
Mark 13 : 24
The resonance between those words of Jesus and the Legion of Mary
prayer and "The Celtic Gods" is unmistakable.

Ishtar

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26 Sept 2008, 02:27:2426/09/2008
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"STAR OF THE MORNING, MARY COME..."

By the way.....

On the morning of 8 November 1922, the people of Ireland were grief-
stricken and filled with foreboding. The event in Mountjoy Jail that
morning was a judicial murder of four prisoners of war, and a
foretaste of what was to happen to Ireland in the next six months,
culminating in the unmentionable debauchery at Ballyseedy Cross.

Intense emotion releases creativite genius from the depths of the
individual and collective soul, and on that fateful morning of 8
November 1922, a poem was produced which began as follows:

"Rory and Liam are dead and gone
Star of the Morning, Mary come
Shot on the eight November morn
Star of the Morning, Mary come....."

That line kept repeating throughout the poem:
"STAR OF THE MORNING, MARY COME..."

Compare that with my lengthy poetic analysis titled "OH ISHTAR, COME!"
- beginning and ending as follows:

"I PRAY TODAY WILL BE THE DAY
WHEN ISHTAR SWEEPS OUR FILTH AWAY
TO END A WORLD THAT TORMENTS ME
A WORLD THAT HAS NO RIGHT TO BE.......
......OH ISHTAR COME TO END OUR PAIN
AND THEN WE'LL LEARN TO LOVE AGAIN."

In his grief-stricken state, the poet of 1922 had tapped into the
hidden truths recorded in the collective, archetypal layer of the
human consciousness. S/he was indirectly expressing the same wish as I
express:
the wish that the "Ball of Redemption" will return soon and pass close
to the earth again to put an end to our collective madness and give us
the opportunity to rebuild society on a sane basis.

The entire world is now in a state of foreboding, echoing the
localised state of apprehension in Ireland on 8 November 1922. We are
heading for a global replay of Ballyseedy Cross.

STAR OF THE MORNING, MARY COME!
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OH ISHTAR COME TO END OUR PAIN
AND THEN WE'LL LEARN TO LOVE AGAIN!

Ishtar

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26 Sept 2008, 21:25:2426/09/2008
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http://www.roses.org/messages/domcomet.htm

Our Lady of the Roses / The Ball of Redemption

I don't see this as healthy.

I'm trying to be polite about it.

It is an attempt to fuse Roman Catholic ideology with rational
thinking.

The two cannot cohabit.

[Unless we are at the same time completely honest about where Roman
Catholicism came from and what it is.]

Keep them separate, or be damned in hell, bejayzizz.
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd

Old Jinglebollocks

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28 Sept 2008, 18:16:5928/09/2008
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This archetypal Glenn Ford film is out of circulation now, although
someone could make a lot of money out of it by recycling it on cable/
satellite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cox3YqBOzdQ

Ishtar

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29 Sept 2008, 13:54:2129/09/2008
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Séimí mac Liam

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29 Sept 2008, 14:24:5029/09/2008
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Ishtar <ishta...@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:f27f3c2c-e087-45d1-a50b-
32da15...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

Mike of Mikamar is an acquaintance of mine. If this stuff intersts you
try
http://members.cox.net/dascott3/index.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/resources.htm#THE_ELECTRIC_UNIVERSE

Somehwere floating around cyberspaces is the video of Thunderbolts of the
Gods, but I can't lay hands on a link right now.

--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99

Ishtar

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29 Sept 2008, 14:48:4929/09/2008
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"If this stuff interests you......"

My emphasis is societal healing, something Velikovsky never even
mentioned, not once.
Not in any constructive sense.
A startling omission, don't you think......
He was a Jew, writing in the 1940s.
I don't have his inhibitions.
Let's do it, for jayzizz sake.
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd

Ishtar

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Séimí mac Liam

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Ishtar <ishta...@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:18bcd333-42c3-4299-af02-
4f18b7...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

If you'd just said you were a whack job, I wouldn't have bothered.

Old Jinglebollocks

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30 Sept 2008, 01:31:1430/09/2008
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On 29 Sep, 22:19, "Séimí mac Liam" <gwyd...@comcast.nospam.net> wrote:
> Ishtar <ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote in news:18bcd333-42c3-4299-af02-
> 4f18b762e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

>
> > "If this stuff interests you......"
>
> > My emphasis is societal healing, something Velikovsky never even
> > mentioned, not once.
> > Not in any constructive sense.
> > A startling omission, don't you think......
> > He was a Jew, writing in the 1940s.
> > I don't have his inhibitions.
> > Let's do it, for jayzizz sake.
> >http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dddp6bt4_829zpt8ffd
>
> If you'd just said you were a whack job, I wouldn't have bothered.
>
> --
> Saint Séimí mac Liam
> Carriagemaker to the  court of Queen Maeve
> Prophet of The Great Tagger
> Canonized December '99

=================================
Response to "Looney" jibe
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dddp6bt4_14cq9wcqgn

Séimí mac Liam

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30 Sept 2008, 06:40:0630/09/2008
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Old Jinglebollocks <Old.Jingl...@googlemail.com> wrote in
news:c797fd92-9290-4b7b...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> ================================Response to "Looney" jibe
> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dddp6bt4_14cq9wcqgn
>

No irony here, nothing to see, please move along.

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