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HardySpicer

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May 6, 2012, 3:33:29 PM5/6/12
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http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/4911-questions-over-bbc-scotlands-election-figure-claims

The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting of Scotland’s
local authority election results after figures reported by the
broadcaster gave the impression that Labour had outgunned the SNP in
terms of councillors gained.

According to BBC Scotland, Labour gained an extra 58 councillors to
the SNP’s 57 after Friday’s count. However it has emerged that the
more accurate figures indicate the SNP gained 61 councillors to
Labour’s 48.

The anomaly is thought to be down to BBC Scotland ignoring the widely
accepted method of comparing election results with those of the
previous election when calculating gains. The broadcaster has instead
chosen to calculate changes based on council standings the day before
last Thursday’s election.

The method adopted by BBC Scotland means that a party who won a ward
in 2007 would be shown as having gained the ward in 2012 if the 2007
councillor subsequently left the party and the voters opted for the
same party again.

In Glasgow for example, where several Labour councillors resigned from
the party weeks before the local elections, these have been designated
Labour gains if voters from the ward again opted for Labour – which is
exactly what happened.

Evidence of just how bizarre BBC Scotland’s calculations are, can be
seen in the result for Glasgow where a new party, set up by
disaffected former Labour councillors, won their first ever seat.
Glasgow First, despite never having stood in any elections prior to
Thursday’s vote, are reported by BBC Scotland to have lost seats!


Hardy

Jahbulon

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May 6, 2012, 4:36:05 PM5/6/12
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HardySpicer <gyans...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8bfa8e39-e4e3-459e...@iu9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:

> The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting
> of Scotland's local authority election results [ . . . ].

If you think that demonstrates BBC bias and that the BBC clearly has its
own political agenda, have a look at BBC coverage of the US presidential
election later this year. It may not make much difference, but the BBC
almost involves itself in an active campaign for the Democratic candidate.

So would I, but I don't levy a poll tax with fraudulent claims of
neutrality.

--

Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html

Unknown

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May 6, 2012, 5:08:21 PM5/6/12
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On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
<gyans...@gmail.com> wrote:

>http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/4911-questions-over-=
>bbc-scotlands-election-figure-claims
>
>The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting of Scotland=92s
>local authority election results after figures reported by the
>broadcaster gave the impression that Labour had outgunned the SNP in
>terms of councillors gained.
>
>According to BBC Scotland, Labour gained an extra 58 councillors to
>the SNP=92s 57 after Friday=92s count. However it has emerged that the
>more accurate figures indicate the SNP gained 61 councillors to
>Labour=92s 48.
>
>The anomaly is thought to be down to BBC Scotland ignoring the widely
>accepted method of comparing election results with those of the
>previous election when calculating gains. The broadcaster has instead
>chosen to calculate changes based on council standings the day before
>last Thursday=92s election.
>
>The method adopted by BBC Scotland means that a party who won a ward
>in 2007 would be shown as having gained the ward in 2012 if the 2007
>councillor subsequently left the party and the voters opted for the
>same party again.
>
>In Glasgow for example, where several Labour councillors resigned from
>the party weeks before the local elections, these have been designated
>Labour gains if voters from the ward again opted for Labour =96 which is
>exactly what happened.
>
>Evidence of just how bizarre BBC Scotland=92s calculations are, can be
>seen in the result for Glasgow where a new party, set up by
>disaffected former Labour councillors, won their first ever seat.
>Glasgow First, despite never having stood in any elections prior to
>Thursday=92s vote, are reported by BBC Scotland to have lost seats!
>
>
>Hardy

I lost my seat, quite a few times in fact. You know when you leave a
room and then whenever you come back, you can't remember where you
were sitting?

max.it (the orange cage)

Bryn Fraser

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May 7, 2012, 6:14:55 AM5/7/12
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On May 6, 10:08 pm, (max.it) wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
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> <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/4911-questions...
Really pisses me off when I can't find my shandy!

Unknown

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May 7, 2012, 11:56:38 AM5/7/12
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 03:14:55 -0700 (PDT), Bryn Fraser
<brianlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 6, 10:08=A0pm, (max.it) wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
>>
>>
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>> <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/4911-questions...
>> >bbc-scotlands-election-figure-claims
>>
>> >The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting of Scotland=3D92s
>> >local authority election results after figures reported by the
>> >broadcaster gave the impression that Labour had outgunned the SNP in
>> >terms of councillors gained.
>>
>> >According to BBC Scotland, Labour gained an extra 58 councillors to
>> >the SNP=3D92s 57 after Friday=3D92s count. =A0However it has emerged tha=
>t the
>> >more accurate figures indicate the SNP gained 61 councillors to
>> >Labour=3D92s 48.
>>
>> >The anomaly is thought to be down to BBC Scotland ignoring the widely
>> >accepted method of comparing election results with those of the
>> >previous election when calculating gains. =A0The broadcaster has instead
>> >chosen to calculate changes based on council standings the day before
>> >last Thursday=3D92s election.
>>
>> >The method adopted by BBC Scotland means that a party who won a ward
>> >in 2007 would be shown as having gained the ward in 2012 if the 2007
>> >councillor subsequently left the party and the voters opted for the
>> >same party again.
>>
>> >In Glasgow for example, where several Labour councillors resigned from
>> >the party weeks before the local elections, these have been designated
>> >Labour gains if voters from the ward again opted for Labour =3D96 which =
>is
>> >exactly what happened.
>>
>> >Evidence of just how bizarre BBC Scotland=3D92s calculations are, can be
>> >seen in the result for Glasgow where a new party, set up by
>> >disaffected former Labour councillors, won their first ever seat.
>> >Glasgow First, despite never having stood in any elections prior to
>> >Thursday=3D92s vote, are reported by BBC Scotland to have lost seats!
>>
>> >Hardy
>>
>> I lost my seat, quite a few times in fact. You know when you leave a
>> room and then whenever you come back, you can't remember where you
>> were sitting?
>>
>> max.it (the orange cage)
>
>Really pisses me off when I can't find my shandy!
>

it's exactly where you left it.

max.it (the orange cage)

Bryn Fraser

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May 7, 2012, 3:17:05 PM5/7/12
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There seems to be more in the glass...

conway caine

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May 7, 2012, 4:27:05 PM5/7/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:4fa6e7bc...@news.btinternet.com...

On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer

I lost my seat, quite a few times in fact. You know when you leave a
room and then whenever you come back, you can't remember where you
were sitting?

****Hey, at least you found the room

conway caine

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May 7, 2012, 4:28:42 PM5/7/12
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"Bryn Fraser" wrote in message
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Really pisses me off when I can't find my shandy!

***Would that be a Shandygaff?

Unknown

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May 7, 2012, 7:13:55 PM5/7/12
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 12:17:05 -0700 (PDT), Bryn Fraser
<brianlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 7, 4:56=A0pm, (max.it) wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 May 2012 03:14:55 -0700 (PDT), Bryn Fraser
>>
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>> <brianlovett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On May 6, 10:08=3DA0pm, (max.it) wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 6 May 2012 12:33:29 -0700 (PDT), HardySpicer
>>
>> >> <gyansor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/4911-questions=
>...
>> >> >bbc-scotlands-election-figure-claims
>>
>> >> >The BBC is today facing questions over their reporting of Scotland=3D=
>3D92s
>> >> >local authority election results after figures reported by the
>> >> >broadcaster gave the impression that Labour had outgunned the SNP in
>> >> >terms of councillors gained.
>>
>> >> >According to BBC Scotland, Labour gained an extra 58 councillors to
>> >> >the SNP=3D3D92s 57 after Friday=3D3D92s count. =3DA0However it has em=
>erged tha=3D
>> >t the
>> >> >more accurate figures indicate the SNP gained 61 councillors to
>> >> >Labour=3D3D92s 48.
>>
>> >> >The anomaly is thought to be down to BBC Scotland ignoring the widely
>> >> >accepted method of comparing election results with those of the
>> >> >previous election when calculating gains. =3DA0The broadcaster has in=
>stead
>> >> >chosen to calculate changes based on council standings the day before
>> >> >last Thursday=3D3D92s election.
>>
>> >> >The method adopted by BBC Scotland means that a party who won a ward
>> >> >in 2007 would be shown as having gained the ward in 2012 if the 2007
>> >> >councillor subsequently left the party and the voters opted for the
>> >> >same party again.
>>
>> >> >In Glasgow for example, where several Labour councillors resigned fro=
>m
>> >> >the party weeks before the local elections, these have been designate=
>d
>> >> >Labour gains if voters from the ward again opted for Labour =3D3D96 w=
>hich =3D
>> >is
>> >> >exactly what happened.
>>
>> >> >Evidence of just how bizarre BBC Scotland=3D3D92s calculations are, c=
>an be
>> >> >seen in the result for Glasgow where a new party, set up by
>> >> >disaffected former Labour councillors, won their first ever seat.
>> >> >Glasgow First, despite never having stood in any elections prior to
>> >> >Thursday=3D3D92s vote, are reported by BBC Scotland to have lost seat=
>s!
>>
>> >> >Hardy
>>
>> >> I lost my seat, quite a few times in fact. You know when you leave a
>> >> room and then whenever you come back, you can't remember where you
>> >> were sitting?
>>
>> >> max.it (the orange cage)
>>
>> >Really pisses me off when I can't find my shandy!
>>
>> it's exactly where you left it.
>>
>> max.it (the orange cage)
>
>There seems to be more in the glass...

Don't complain, just be careful where you leave it.

max.it (the orange cage)
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