Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay liberation was founded . . . on a 'sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,' and any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a 'communal betrayal of gargantuan proportions.'" Rotello's perception of gay promiscuity, which he criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.By 1984, after the AIDS epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having about 4 partners per month in 1984.
In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 percent, with the largest increase among men under 25. Despite its continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from engaging in promiscuous gay sex.
The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted homosexuals were included in the statistics. That is likely true, according to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men who were not associated with the gay community. This may imply that it is riskier to be "out" than "closeted." Adopting a gay identity may create more pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more promiscuous partners.
Excessive sexual promiscuity results in serious medical consequences - indeed, it is a recipe for transmitting disease and generating an epidemic. The HIV/AIDS epidemic has remained a predominantly gay issue in the U.S. primarily because of the greater degree of promiscuity among gays. A study based upon statistics from 1986 through 1990 estimated that 20-year-old gay men had a 50 percent chance of becoming HIV positive by age 55. As of June 2001, nearly 64 percent of men with AIDS were men who have had sex with men. Syphilis is also more common among gay men. The San Francisco Public Health Department recently reported that syphilis among the city's gay and bisexual men was at epidemic levels. According to the San Francisco Chronicle:
"Experts believe syphilis is on the rise among gay and bisexual men because they are engaging in unprotected sex with multiple partners, many of whom they met in anonymous situations such as sex clubs, adult bookstores, meetings through the Internet and in bathhouses. The new data will show that in the 93 cases involving gay and bisexual men this year, the group reported having 1,225 sexual partners." A study done in Baltimore and reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine found that gay men contracted syphilis at three to four times the rate of heterosexuals. Promiscuity is the factor most responsible for the extreme rates of these and other Sexually Transmitted Diseases cited below, many of which result in a shortened life span for men who have sex with men.
Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners than men. But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian reported a history of sex with men. Other studies similarly show that 75-90 percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
Thanks for posting this. If you vote against same sex marriage you are on the same side as the hater "J" hopefully this makes people think twice before voting against it!
One thing I cannot understand, J, for the life of me, is how does opposing gay marriage discourage promiscuity in the gay community?
A rational human would think, if promiscuity is such a health problem in that community, the best thing would be to give them a reason to enter into committed monogamous relationships and marry. There is no cure for homosexuality because it isn't a disease. They aren't going to magically become heterosexuals by forbidding them to marry.
But people like you are not rational. You think the solution to a problem is maintaining the status quo when the status quo is actually the problem. If you have identified promiscuity as a social and moral evil, your opposition makes no sense because it is the only real solution to curbing the promiscuity (unless your real desire is to stone homosexuals to death or burn them at the stake).
If somebody ever figures out how the bizarre social conservative mind works, millions of people would like to know.
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Discussion subject changed to "Sorry Catholic pervert. Same Sex Marriage is legal and has been entrenched in the Canadian constitution for 5 years now, you have already lost." by Studious Rex
Subject: Sorry Catholic pervert. Same Sex Marriage is legal and has been entrenched in the Canadian constitution for 5 years now, you have already lost.
> Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay > liberation was founded . . . on a 'sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,' and > any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a 'communal betrayal of > gargantuan proportions.'" Rotello's perception of gay promiscuity, which he > criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of > homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of > self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 > different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; > 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent > claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.By 1984, after the AIDS > epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing > promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in > 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having > about 4 partners per month in 1984.
> In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an > upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San > Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting > multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 > percent, with the largest increase among men under 25. Despite its > continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from > engaging in promiscuous gay sex.
> The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay > men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted > homosexuals were included in the statistics. That is likely true, according > to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who > had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were > associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have > had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men > who were not associated with the gay community. This may imply that it is > riskier to be "out" than "closeted." Adopting a gay identity may create more > pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more > promiscuous partners.
> Excessive sexual promiscuity results in serious medical consequences - > indeed, it is a recipe for transmitting disease and generating an epidemic. > The HIV/AIDS epidemic has remained a predominantly gay issue in the U.S. > primarily because of the greater degree of promiscuity among gays. A study > based upon statistics from 1986 through 1990 estimated that 20-year-old gay > men had a 50 percent chance of becoming HIV positive by age 55. As of June > 2001, nearly 64 percent of men with AIDS were men who have had sex with men. > Syphilis is also more common among gay men. The San Francisco Public Health > Department recently reported that syphilis among the city's gay and bisexual > men was at epidemic levels. According to the San Francisco Chronicle:
> "Experts believe syphilis is on the rise among gay and bisexual men > because they are engaging in unprotected sex with multiple partners, many of > whom they met in anonymous situations such as sex clubs, adult bookstores, > meetings through the Internet and in bathhouses. The new data will show that > in the 93 cases involving gay and bisexual men this year, the group reported > having 1,225 sexual partners." > A study done in Baltimore and reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine > found that gay men contracted syphilis at three to four times the rate of > heterosexuals. Promiscuity is the factor most responsible for the extreme > rates of these and other Sexually Transmitted Diseases cited below, many of > which result in a shortened life span for men who have sex with men.
> Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than > among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners > than men. But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the > literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 > times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than > heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual > women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian > reported a history of sex with men. Other studies similarly show that 75-90 > percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
> > Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay > > liberation was founded . . . on a 'sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,' and > > any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a 'communal betrayal of > > gargantuan proportions.'" Rotello's perception of gay promiscuity, which he > > criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of > > homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of > > self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 > > different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; > > 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent > > claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.By 1984, after the AIDS > > epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing > > promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in > > 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having > > about 4 partners per month in 1984.
> > In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an > > upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San > > Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting > > multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 > > percent, with the largest increase among men under 25. Despite its > > continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from > > engaging in promiscuous gay sex.
> > The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay > > men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted > > homosexuals were included in the statistics. That is likely true, according > > to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who > > had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were > > associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have > > had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men > > who were not associated with the gay community. This may imply that it is > > riskier to be "out" than "closeted." Adopting a gay identity may create more > > pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more > > promiscuous partners.
> > Excessive sexual promiscuity results in serious medical consequences - > > indeed, it is a recipe for transmitting disease and generating an epidemic. > > The HIV/AIDS epidemic has remained a predominantly gay issue in the U.S. > > primarily because of the greater degree of promiscuity among gays. A study > > based upon statistics from 1986 through 1990 estimated that 20-year-old gay > > men had a 50 percent chance of becoming HIV positive by age 55. As of June > > 2001, nearly 64 percent of men with AIDS were men who have had sex with men. > > Syphilis is also more common among gay men. The San Francisco Public Health > > Department recently reported that syphilis among the city's gay and bisexual > > men was at epidemic levels. According to the San Francisco Chronicle:
> > "Experts believe syphilis is on the rise among gay and bisexual men > > because they are engaging in unprotected sex with multiple partners, many of > > whom they met in anonymous situations such as sex clubs, adult bookstores, > > meetings through the Internet and in bathhouses. The new data will show that > > in the 93 cases involving gay and bisexual men this year, the group reported > > having 1,225 sexual partners." > > A study done in Baltimore and reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine > > found that gay men contracted syphilis at three to four times the rate of > > heterosexuals. Promiscuity is the factor most responsible for the extreme > > rates of these and other Sexually Transmitted Diseases cited below, many of > > which result in a shortened life span for men who have sex with men.
> > Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than > > among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners > > than men. But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the > > literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 > > times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than > > heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual > > women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian > > reported a history of sex with men. Other studies similarly show that 75-90 > > percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
> Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay > liberation was founded . . . on a 'sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,' and > any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a 'communal betrayal of > gargantuan proportions.'" Rotello's perception of gay promiscuity, which he > criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of > homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of > self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 > different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; > 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent > claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.By 1984, after the AIDS > epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing > promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in > 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having > about 4 partners per month in 1984.
> In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an > upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San > Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting > multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 > percent, with the largest increase among men under 25. Despite its > continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from > engaging in promiscuous gay sex.
> The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay > men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted > homosexuals were included in the statistics. That is likely true, according > to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who > had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were > associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have > had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men > who were not associated with the gay community. This may imply that it is > riskier to be "out" than "closeted." Adopting a gay identity may create more > pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more > promiscuous partners.
> Excessive sexual promiscuity results in serious medical consequences - > indeed, it is a recipe for transmitting disease and generating an epidemic. > The HIV/AIDS epidemic has remained a predominantly gay issue in the U.S. > primarily because of the greater degree of promiscuity among gays. A study > based upon statistics from 1986 through 1990 estimated that 20-year-old gay > men had a 50 percent chance of becoming HIV positive by age 55. As of June > 2001, nearly 64 percent of men with AIDS were men who have had sex with men. > Syphilis is also more common among gay men. The San Francisco Public Health > Department recently reported that syphilis among the city's gay and bisexual > men was at epidemic levels. According to the San Francisco Chronicle:
> "Experts believe syphilis is on the rise among gay and bisexual men > because they are engaging in unprotected sex with multiple partners, many of > whom they met in anonymous situations such as sex clubs, adult bookstores, > meetings through the Internet and in bathhouses. The new data will show that > in the 93 cases involving gay and bisexual men this year, the group reported > having 1,225 sexual partners." > A study done in Baltimore and reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine > found that gay men contracted syphilis at three to four times the rate of > heterosexuals. Promiscuity is the factor most responsible for the extreme > rates of these and other Sexually Transmitted Diseases cited below, many of > which result in a shortened life span for men who have sex with men.
> Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than > among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners > than men. But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the > literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 > times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than > heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual > women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian > reported a history of sex with men. Other studies similarly show that 75-90 > percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
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> How is any of that a narrowly tailored and > compelling argument against equal rights, Iben?
> > Gay author Gabriel Rotello notes the perspective of many gays that "Gay > > liberation was founded . . . on a 'sexual brotherhood of promiscuity,' and > > any abandonment of that promiscuity would amount to a 'communal betrayal of > > gargantuan proportions.'" Rotello's perception of gay promiscuity, which he > > criticizes, is consistent with survey results. A far-ranging study of > > homosexual men published in 1978 revealed that 75 percent of > > self-identified, white, gay men admitted to having sex with more than 100 > > different males in their lifetime: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; > > 17 percent claimed 250- 499; 15 percent claimed 500-999; and 28 percent > > claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners.By 1984, after the AIDS > > epidemic had taken hold, homosexual men were reportedly curtailing > > promiscuity, but not by much. Instead of more than 6 partners per month in > > 1982, the average non-monogamous respondent in San Francisco reported having > > about 4 partners per month in 1984.
> > In more recent years, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control has reported an > > upswing in promiscuity, at least among young homosexual men in San > > Francisco. From 1994 to 1997, the percentage of homosexual men reporting > > multiple partners and unprotected anal sex rose from 23.6 percent to 33.3 > > percent, with the largest increase among men under 25. Despite its > > continuing incurability, AIDS no longer seems to deter individuals from > > engaging in promiscuous gay sex.
> > The data relating to gay promiscuity were obtained from self-identified gay > > men. Some advocates argue that the average would be lower if closeted > > homosexuals were included in the statistics. That is likely true, according > > to data obtained in a 2000 survey in Australia that tracked whether men who > > had sex with men were associated with the gay community. Men who were > > associated with the gay community were nearly four times as likely to have > > had more than 50 sex partners in the six months preceding the survey as men > > who were not associated with the gay community. This may imply that it is > > riskier to be "out" than "closeted." Adopting a gay identity may create more > > pressure to be promiscuous and to be so with a cohort of other more > > promiscuous partners.
> > Excessive sexual promiscuity results in serious medical consequences - > > indeed, it is a recipe for transmitting disease and generating an epidemic. > > The HIV/AIDS epidemic has remained a predominantly gay issue in the U.S. > > primarily because of the greater degree of promiscuity among gays. A study > > based upon statistics from 1986 through 1990 estimated that 20-year-old gay > > men had a 50 percent chance of becoming HIV positive by age 55. As of June > > 2001, nearly 64 percent of men with AIDS were men who have had sex with men. > > Syphilis is also more common among gay men. The San Francisco Public Health > > Department recently reported that syphilis among the city's gay and bisexual > > men was at epidemic levels. According to the San Francisco Chronicle:
> > "Experts believe syphilis is on the rise among gay and bisexual men > > because they are engaging in unprotected sex with multiple partners, many of > > whom they met in anonymous situations such as sex clubs, adult bookstores, > > meetings through the Internet and in bathhouses. The new data will show that > > in the 93 cases involving gay and bisexual men this year, the group reported > > having 1,225 sexual partners." > > A study done in Baltimore and reported in the Archives of Internal Medicine > > found that gay men contracted syphilis at three to four times the rate of > > heterosexuals. Promiscuity is the factor most responsible for the extreme > > rates of these and other Sexually Transmitted Diseases cited below, many of > > which result in a shortened life span for men who have sex with men.
> > Promiscuity among lesbians is less extreme, but it is still higher than > > among heterosexual women. Overall, women tend to have fewer sex partners > > than men. But there is a surprising finding about lesbian promiscuity in the > > literature. Australian investigators reported that lesbian women were 4.5 > > times more likely to have had more than 50 lifetime male partners than > > heterosexual women (9 percent of lesbians versus 2 percent of heterosexual > > women); and 93 percent of women who identified themselves as lesbian > > reported a history of sex with men. Other studies similarly show that 75-90 > > percent of women who have sex with women have also had sex with men.
> -- > "I do not pretend to be able to prove that there > is no God. I equally cannot > prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god > may exist; so may the gods of > Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But > no one of these hypotheses is > more probable than any other: they lie outside the > region of even probable > knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to > consider any of them." > Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text -
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