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pwate...@gmail.com
Mar 26, 2013, 5:30:46 AM3/26/13
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On Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, Jeff wrote:
> In the past few years I have rediscovered my Irish roots. My
> grandparents came from county Galway, Republic Of Ireland. Growing up
> in a small town, I was always told not to tell people that our family
> was Catholic. After seeing "Irish In America" on PBS, I can understand
> why i was told that, feelings that were instilled in Irish Americans
> because of persecution for being Catholic. But there is one thing I
> don't understand. Talking to people on chat forums about Ireland, and
> discussion groups on the internet, I see that most people who are in
> Ireland seem "bitter" toward Irish Americans. They come back at you
> with remarks like "you're not Irish", and "prove that youre Irish", or
> other hostile remarks. Why is there such a hostility toward the Irish
> that live in America? My grandparents came here, but only after the
> famine. Other ancestors came here during the famine in order to survive
> and make a new life for themselves. Several of them returned back to
> Ireland later to live. I am Irish. No one here is really an American
> except the Native Americans. I am proud of my Irish heritage and don't
> understand the resentment. The only thing I can relate it to is that
> alot of Irish American money has funded the IRA.
>
> Someone who is actually in Ireland can help me with this dilemma.
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
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> In the past few years I have rediscovered my Irish roots. My
> grandparents came from county Galway, Republic Of Ireland. Growing up
> in a small town, I was always told not to tell people that our family
> was Catholic. After seeing "Irish In America" on PBS, I can understand
> why i was told that, feelings that were instilled in Irish Americans
> because of persecution for being Catholic. But there is one thing I
> don't understand. Talking to people on chat forums about Ireland, and
> discussion groups on the internet, I see that most people who are in
> Ireland seem "bitter" toward Irish Americans. They come back at you
> with remarks like "you're not Irish", and "prove that youre Irish", or
> other hostile remarks. Why is there such a hostility toward the Irish
> that live in America? My grandparents came here, but only after the
> famine. Other ancestors came here during the famine in order to survive
> and make a new life for themselves. Several of them returned back to
> Ireland later to live. I am Irish. No one here is really an American
> except the Native Americans. I am proud of my Irish heritage and don't
> understand the resentment. The only thing I can relate it to is that
> alot of Irish American money has funded the IRA.
>
> Someone who is actually in Ireland can help me with this dilemma.
>
> Thanks.
> Jeff
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pwate...@gmail.com
Mar 26, 2013, 5:32:47 AM3/26/13
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pwate...@gmail.com
Mar 26, 2013, 5:34:31 AM3/26/13
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S�im� mac Liam
May 24, 2013, 3:18:58 PM5/24/13
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Eddie Wall <ed...@wall.ie> wrote in
news:okufo8ho9lemcsqba...@4ax.com:
> If I may...........
> different cultures and have different meaning for words and phrases.
> When you say you are "Irish" what you mean is that you had parents /
> grand parents / great grand parents born in Ireland. Some sort of
> Irish heritage and "Irish American " background". But that is NOT
> what the Irish mean by Irish... so you are not Irish and they are
> simply stating that and being annoying about it by not telling you
> why. These Irish American - "Irish" were commonly called "i am's)
> because they usually started the conversation with I Am......... (
> when of course they are not )/
>
> Personally I could not care less what people do... if you want to call
> your self Irish, Martian or a Rock I completely respect your right to
> do so.... it is 100% your prerogative. I would suggest that be aware
> that as much as you may like to be a Martian... just calling
> yourself one does not necessarily make you one, especially in Martian
> eyes.!
>
>
>>> Thanks.
> You are most welcome
>
>>> Jeff
>
> Eddie ( use to be SCI's foreign ambassador )
> "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any
> more than going to a garage makes you a mechanic."
>
Just cuz the cat has kittens in the oven, don't make 'em bisquits.
(Did I mention I'm descended from Brian Boru, Strongbow and David the
Saint?) <sticks hat above parapet> Hidee ho, Eddie.
--
Saint S�im� mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99
news:okufo8ho9lemcsqba...@4ax.com:
> If I may...........
>
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 02:30:46 -0700 (PDT), pwate...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, Jeff wrote:
>>> In the past few years I have rediscovered my Irish roots. My
>>> grandparents came from county Galway, Republic Of Ireland. Growing
>>> up in a small town, I was always told not to tell people that our
>>> family was Catholic. After seeing "Irish In America" on PBS, I can
>>> understand why i was told that, feelings that were instilled in
>>> Irish Americans because of persecution for being Catholic. But
>>> there is one thing I don't understand. Talking to people on chat
>>> forums about Ireland, and discussion groups on the internet, I see
>>> that most people who are in Ireland seem "bitter" toward Irish
>>> Americans. They come back at you
>
> No... I would not say bitter. !
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 02:30:46 -0700 (PDT), pwate...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, April 19, 1998 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, Jeff wrote:
>>> In the past few years I have rediscovered my Irish roots. My
>>> grandparents came from county Galway, Republic Of Ireland. Growing
>>> up in a small town, I was always told not to tell people that our
>>> family was Catholic. After seeing "Irish In America" on PBS, I can
>>> understand why i was told that, feelings that were instilled in
>>> Irish Americans because of persecution for being Catholic. But
>>> there is one thing I don't understand. Talking to people on chat
>>> forums about Ireland, and discussion groups on the internet, I see
>>> that most people who are in Ireland seem "bitter" toward Irish
>>> Americans. They come back at you
>
>
>>> with remarks like "you're not Irish", and "prove that youre Irish",
>>> or other hostile remarks. Why is there such a hostility toward the
>>> Irish
>
> No its not hostile
>>> with remarks like "you're not Irish", and "prove that youre Irish",
>>> or other hostile remarks. Why is there such a hostility toward the
>>> Irish
>
>
>>> that live in America? My grandparents came here, but only after the
>>> famine. Other ancestors came here during the famine in order to
>>> survive and make a new life for themselves. Several of them
>>> returned back to Ireland later to live. I am Irish.
>
> No you are not..... ( note I am NOT being bitter or hostile)
>>> that live in America? My grandparents came here, but only after the
>>> famine. Other ancestors came here during the famine in order to
>>> survive and make a new life for themselves. Several of them
>>> returned back to Ireland later to live. I am Irish.
>
>
>> No one here is really an American
>>> except the Native Americans. I am proud of my Irish heritage and
>>> don't understand the resentment.
>
> There is no resentment, you are not Irish. It is a factual statement.
>> No one here is really an American
>>> except the Native Americans. I am proud of my Irish heritage and
>>> don't understand the resentment.
>
>
>>The only thing I can relate it to is that
>>> alot of Irish American money has funded the IRA.
>>>
> That is such a red herring !
>>The only thing I can relate it to is that
>>> alot of Irish American money has funded the IRA.
>>>
>
>>> Someone who is actually in Ireland can help me with this dilemma.
>>>
> Hi jeff, I will try, It is very simple, we ( you and I ) are
>>> Someone who is actually in Ireland can help me with this dilemma.
>>>
> different cultures and have different meaning for words and phrases.
> When you say you are "Irish" what you mean is that you had parents /
> grand parents / great grand parents born in Ireland. Some sort of
> Irish heritage and "Irish American " background". But that is NOT
> what the Irish mean by Irish... so you are not Irish and they are
> simply stating that and being annoying about it by not telling you
> why. These Irish American - "Irish" were commonly called "i am's)
> because they usually started the conversation with I Am......... (
> when of course they are not )/
>
> Personally I could not care less what people do... if you want to call
> your self Irish, Martian or a Rock I completely respect your right to
> do so.... it is 100% your prerogative. I would suggest that be aware
> that as much as you may like to be a Martian... just calling
> yourself one does not necessarily make you one, especially in Martian
> eyes.!
>
>
>>> Thanks.
> You are most welcome
>
>>> Jeff
>
> Eddie ( use to be SCI's foreign ambassador )
> "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any
> more than going to a garage makes you a mechanic."
>
Just cuz the cat has kittens in the oven, don't make 'em bisquits.
(Did I mention I'm descended from Brian Boru, Strongbow and David the
Saint?) <sticks hat above parapet> Hidee ho, Eddie.
--
Saint S�im� mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99
Old Jinglebollocks
May 25, 2013, 6:57:26 AM5/25/13
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THE PATRICK HACKETT DIMENSION
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Patrick Hackett is an embarrassment to everybody, most of all to the
IRA, and people want to forget him.
I do not want to forget Patrick Hackett. I deal in realities. The
Patrick Hackett affair happened and is instructive.
For one thing, I doubt if Patrick Hackett is getting any financial
aid
from Sinn Fein for the sacrifice he made for ‘the cause’ ……………… just
as Seamus Twomey was abandoned to ill health and poverty in old age
by
the IRA, after Seamus Twomey had devoted his whole life to ‘the
cause’
at great personal cost.
So beware of getting involved with guerrilla organisations who will
suck you dry and then abandon you to ill health and poverty in old
age, like the IRA did to Seamus Twomey and Patrick Hackett.
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I was living in London in the 1970s. The report in the Evening
Standard newspaper the day after Patrick Hackett’s heroic struggle
for
Irish freedom…….. said that Patrick Hackett somehow jumped out of the
train from a height, as the train was stopped between stations with
no
platform, and then Patrick Hackett ran away to a considerable
distance.
Yet, in hospital that night, the good doctors decided that Patrick
Hackett’s leg had to be amputated.
The IRA never complained about the amputation of Patrick Hackett’s
leg, although it was a bit anomalous, considering that he was able to
jump out of the train from a height and to run away to such a
considerable distance, on a leg that supposedly needed to be
amputated
later that day.
But the IRA always only wanted to bury the story of Patrick Hackett.
He is not in their ‘hall of fame.’
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The Muslim terrorists who are in hospital in London now…….
………do they need a leg amputated, Doctor, the same way that Patrick
Hackett needed a leg amputated?
It's been said that the doctors and nurses who are forced to treat
those killers are among the saddest victims..........
Not necessarily. If they perform the same act on those killers as the
doctors did on Patrick Hackett, they will be doing us all a service
and giving the killers something to ponder for the rest of their
lives..... just as Patrick Hackett has something to think about for
the rest of his life.
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Patrick Hackett is an embarrassment to everybody, most of all to the
IRA, and people want to forget him.
I do not want to forget Patrick Hackett. I deal in realities. The
Patrick Hackett affair happened and is instructive.
For one thing, I doubt if Patrick Hackett is getting any financial
aid
from Sinn Fein for the sacrifice he made for ‘the cause’ ……………… just
as Seamus Twomey was abandoned to ill health and poverty in old age
by
the IRA, after Seamus Twomey had devoted his whole life to ‘the
cause’
at great personal cost.
So beware of getting involved with guerrilla organisations who will
suck you dry and then abandon you to ill health and poverty in old
age, like the IRA did to Seamus Twomey and Patrick Hackett.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was living in London in the 1970s. The report in the Evening
Standard newspaper the day after Patrick Hackett’s heroic struggle
for
Irish freedom…….. said that Patrick Hackett somehow jumped out of the
train from a height, as the train was stopped between stations with
no
platform, and then Patrick Hackett ran away to a considerable
distance.
Yet, in hospital that night, the good doctors decided that Patrick
Hackett’s leg had to be amputated.
The IRA never complained about the amputation of Patrick Hackett’s
leg, although it was a bit anomalous, considering that he was able to
jump out of the train from a height and to run away to such a
considerable distance, on a leg that supposedly needed to be
amputated
later that day.
But the IRA always only wanted to bury the story of Patrick Hackett.
He is not in their ‘hall of fame.’
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Muslim terrorists who are in hospital in London now…….
………do they need a leg amputated, Doctor, the same way that Patrick
Hackett needed a leg amputated?
It's been said that the doctors and nurses who are forced to treat
those killers are among the saddest victims..........
Not necessarily. If they perform the same act on those killers as the
doctors did on Patrick Hackett, they will be doing us all a service
and giving the killers something to ponder for the rest of their
lives..... just as Patrick Hackett has something to think about for
the rest of his life.
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