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A SCOTTISH "MEIN KAMPF"?!?!

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Wild Colonial Boy

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Jun 29, 2002, 5:16:44 AM6/29/02
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On 27 Jun 2002 16:11:28 GMT, englis...@aol.com (ENGLISH UPROAR)
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>A SCOTTISH "MEIN KAMPF"?!?!
>by Jeremy Greenwood
>(An English Nationalist)
>
>It is most interesting to observe the way in which the Scottish psyche, that
>quite often tends to embrace a cult of historical victimhood, is not without
>its own share of historical injustices. In fact, the Scots have had a very
>unorthodox history of their own in many cases. Many Scottish sins have also
>been extended to the New World, by virtue of their kith and kin breeding across
>the water, in the Americas.
>
>Unfortunately many Scots, Welsh and Irish are happy to confuse English with
>British if it means avoiding their own role in the past. Most of them
>conveniently tend to forget that the word "British" means "English, Scottish,
>and Welsh". The Scots also now have it in their thick heads that they have some
>sort of camaraderie with their fellow Celts in Ireland, since they have all
>been victims of the English throughout history.

Scots who feel this way are welcome with open arms in Ireland.

>Many Scots also have the cheek to believe that they are an innocent party with
>regard to the crimes of the British Empire. The troubles in Northern Ireland,
>are a direct result of the region being settled by lowland, Presbyterian Scots.
>Most of the Irish Protestants including the infamous Ian Paisley are all Scots by
>origin.

And ultimately Scots are Irish by origin. Search google for Dal
Riada/Dal Riata and the Battle of Donnichen

>Yet many Scots refuse to acknowledge their own historical responsibilities in
>both Ireland, India, South Africa, Palestine, and elsewhere. The Scots tend to
>forget that they were as much part of the "British Empire" as the English were.
>
>Nevertheless, many thick Scots today can only see themselves as "victims".
>They have been utterly brainwashed by Celtic Propaganda movies like Braveheart
>and Rob Roy. So many Scots hate England, and have no real reason to do so,
>whether historically or personally.

Hahahahahahaha....do so.

> I guess despite the obvious historical
>facts, a lot of Scots, would rather remain in ignorance, and full of blind and
>unwarranted hate for England.

Your arguments aren't going to convince anyone.

>The Scottish Presbyterian doctrine of predestination has some similarities with
>some secular political ideologies of a deterministic, anti-democratic, and
>anti-free will by nature.
>
>Unlike Anglicanism, Roman Catholicism, or Eastern Orthodoxy, the Scottish
>Presbyterian doctrine reinforces the ethnics and tenants of being hard working,

So?

>self-sacrificial, thrifty, anti-alcoholic, anti-public displays of affection,
>studious, task centred, anti-smoking, anti-narcotic, anti-gambling, anti-individualism,
>patriarchal, dynastic, clannish, and anti-ostentatious.
>
>Many Scottish businessmen who follow the Scottish Presbyterian doctrine are
>likely to regarded profits as a sign of his predestination for eternal
>salvation.

Quite probably.

>The Scottish version of "Celtic Victimhood Syndrome", which seems to largely
>define Scottish, Irish, and Welsh culture these days,

I can't belive this shit.

> takes on a rather ominous
>form in the Scottish case of a sour, dour, isolationist, selfish,
>self-preserving, mean spirited, histrionic, anti-English, broody ogre. This
>mindset seems to be manifest in popular Scottish art, poetry, film, theatre,
>and of course politics, in terms of its rather outlandish predilection towards
>such self-centred, egotistical, and narcissistic forms of national
>self-expression as the slanderous and historically inaccurate film called
>Braveheart.
>
>The 1995 film Braveheart is arguably the Scottish "Mein Kampf", in terms of its
>implied sense of victimhood, patriarchy, xenophobia, fraternity, clannishness,
>cultural loyalty, rabid nationalism, and an historical focal point for modern
>day Scottish nationalists who seem to be predominantly male, working-class,
>commoners who have a predilection towards drunken anti-English and
>anti-Immigrant violence.

The last -anti-immigrant- bit is crap.

>This side of popular Scottish culture is one where the macho image prevails
>against the backdrop of an enternal sense of victimiztion and self-entitlement,
>whether it be Scottish independence or even such absurdities as economic
>reparations from England for its occupation of Scotland centuries ago.

Absurd? Where has the oil money gone? Where are the Whiskey profits?

>It is a well known open "secret" that King Edward the 8th who abdicated from
>the British throne in 1936 was a Nazi sympathiser, and so was his brother
>Michael,
>the Duke of Kent, who died in a mysterious plane crash over Scotland in 1942.
>A large minority of Scots would have welcomed a Nazi German invasion of the
>British Isles, and would probably have collaborated with them in the naive
>belief that the Germans would have granted Scotland genuine independence even
>if the Germans had of won the Second World War.

Slanderous speculation. You had better provide proof of this claim.

>Undoubtedly, Thomas Carlyle, a Scottish historian whose solutions to society's
>problems in many ways had much in common with those of Friedrich Nietzche,
>would have welcomed a Nazi German invasion of the British Isles, had he been
>born at the right time.

Why? You'll find, these days, that people who are into Nietzche are
far more likely to be left wing 'Post Modernists' who most certainly
would NOT welcome a Nazi invasion.

>During the English Civil War and " republic " of 1642 - 1660 , the Scottish
>Presbyterians originally entered the war on the side of the English
>parliamentary forces , nicknamed the "Roundheads ," as opposed to the English
>Royalists , known as the "Cavaliers," but then changed sides and later joined
>the English royalists.

Certainly I do not understand this aspect of Scottish history and
would welcome someone explaining this further.

> Throughout history Scottish political opportunism has
>known no bounds.

English controlling behaviour knows no bounds and you know it.

WCB

Arsecandle

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Jun 30, 2002, 6:36:28 PM6/30/02
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A certain Wild Colonial Boy, of soc.culture.irish "fame", writes :

>Scots who feel this way are welcome with open arms in Ireland.

You're better off ignoring trolls, especially ones like this who use
made up, unresearched and unsupported "facts" to substantiate their
wrong-ness.

>> Throughout history Scottish political opportunism has
>>known no bounds.
>
>English controlling behaviour knows no bounds and you know it.

He doesn't know it, because he's a twat.

--
George H.W. Bush, as Presidential Nominee for the Republican party;
1987-AUG-27: "No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as
citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation
under God."

Wild Colonial Boy

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Jul 1, 2002, 6:07:47 AM7/1/02
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On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 23:36:28 +0100, Arsecandle
<thegreat...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>A certain Wild Colonial Boy, of soc.culture.irish "fame", writes :
>
>>Scots who feel this way are welcome with open arms in Ireland.
>
>You're better off ignoring trolls, especially ones like this who use
>made up, unresearched and unsupported "facts" to substantiate their
>wrong-ness.
>
>>> Throughout history Scottish political opportunism has
>>>known no bounds.
>>
>>English controlling behaviour knows no bounds and you know it.
>
>He doesn't know it, because he's a twat.

Hahahahaha. Thanks for that.

WCB

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