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WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> Possible Conspiracy To Falsify Temperature Data Uncovered
> By Noel Sheppard
>
> E-mail messages between high-ranking scientists appear to indicate a
> conspiracy by some of the world's leading global warming alarmists to
> falsify temperature data in order to exaggerate global averages.
>
> Those involved allegedly include: James Hansen, Director of NASA's
> Goddard Institute for Space Studies; Michael Mann, famous for Mann's
> "Hockey Stick"; Gavin Schmidt, NASA climate modeler, and; Stephen
> Schneider, Stanford professor and Al Gore confidant.
>
> A statement released [1] Friday by the alarmist website RealClimate
> has confirmed that e-mail servers at the University of East Anglia's
> Climate Research Unit (CRU) in Norwich, England, were hacked recently
> with contents illegally made available over the Internet.
>
> Although the authenticity of all these e-mail messages has yet to be
> proven, what's currently available points to a coordinated attempt to
> manipulate climate data by those directly involved in advancing the
> theory of anthropogenic global warming.
>
> New Zealand's Investigate magazine reported [2] Friday that it has
> verified these e-mail messages are indeed real:
>
> The director of Britain's leading Climate Research Unit, Phil
> Jones, has told Investigate magazine's TGIF Edition tonight that his
> organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the
> internet appears to be genuine.
>
> In an exclusive interview, Jones told TGIF, "It was a hacker. We
> were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had
> hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and
> emails."
>
> The BBC.com filed this report [3] moments ago:
>
> A university spokesman confirmed the email system had been hacked
> and that information was taken and published without permission.
>
> An investigation was underway and the police had been informed, he
> added.
>
> "We are aware that information from a server used for research
> information in one area of the university has been made available on
> public websites," the spokesman stated.
>
> The journal Nature got a comment [4] from one of the scientists whose
> name appears on some of these e-mail messages:
>
> Some climate-sceptic bloggers are already poring over the posted
> material, which includes e-mails allegedly sent by the CRU's director
> Phil Jones to fellow climate researchers, including Michael Mann at
> Pennsylvania State University in University Park. Mann is the author
> of a widely cited assessment of past climate records, known as the
> hockey-stick graph, which shows a pronounced global-warming trend
> during the latter part of the twentieth century.
>
> "I'm not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained
> e-mails," says Mann. "However, their theft constitutes serious
> criminal activity. I'm hoping that the perpetrators will be tracked
> down and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows." Jones
> declined to comment on the matter.
>
> Andrew Bolt of Australia's Herald Sun has more [5]:
>
> So the 1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a
> scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists [6] pushing
> the man-made warming theory - a scandal that is one of the greatest
> in modern science. I've been adding some of the most astonishing in
> updates below - emails suggesting conspiracy, collusion in
> exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of
> embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure,
> manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public
> claims and much more. If it is as it now seems, never again will
> "peer review" be used to shout down sceptics. Bolt included a number
> of these e-mail messages (emphasis his):
>
> From: Phil Jones
> To: ray bradley ,mann@XXXX, mhughes@XXXX
> Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
> Cc: //';l[1]='a';l[2]='/';l[3]='<';l[4]=' 110';l[5]=' 114';l[6]='
> 111';l[7]=' 98';l[8]=' 115';l[9]=' 111';l[10]=' 46';l[11]='
> 88';l[12]=' 88';l[13]=' 88';l[14]=' 64';l[15]=' 97';l[16]='
> 102';l[17]=' 102';l[18]=' 105';l[19]=' 114';l[20]=' 98';l[21]='
> 46';l[22]=' 107';l[23]='>';l[24]='\"';l[25]=' 110';l[26]='
> 114';l[27]=' 111';l[28]=' 98';l[29]=' 115';l[30]=' 111';l[31]='
> 46';l[32]=' 88';l[33]=' 88';l[34]=' 88';l[35]=' 64';l[36]='
> 97';l[37]=' 102';l[38]=' 102';l[39]=' 105';l[40]=' 114';l[41]='
> 98';l[42]=' 46';l[43]='
> 107';l[44]=':';l[45]='o';l[46]='t';l[47]='l';l[48]='i';l[49]='a';l[50]='m';l[51]='\"';l[52]='=';l[53]='f';l[54]='e';l[55]='r';l[56]='h';l[57]='a
> ';l[58]='<'; for (var i = l.length-1; i >= 0; i=i-1){ if
> (l[i].substring(0, 1) == ' ')
> document.write("&#"+unescape(l[i].substring(1))+";"); else
> document.write(unescape(l[i])); } //]]> k.br...@XXX.osborn [7]@XXXX
>
> Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
>
> Once Tim's got a diagram here we'll send that either later today
> or first thing tomorrow.
>
> I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real
> temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd
> from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline. Mike's series got the
> annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for
> NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the
> estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global
> estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
>
> Thanks for the comments, Ray.
>
> Cheers
> Phil
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone XXXX
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax XXXX
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich
>
> Here's a more recent one. See how many prominent climate alarmists
> are allegedly in receipt:
>
> From: Kevin Trenberth
> To: Michael Mann
> Subject: Re: BBC U-turn on climate
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:57:37 -0600
> Cc: Stephen H Schneider , Myles Allen , peter stott , "Philip D.
> Jones" , Benjamin Santer , Tom Wigley , Thomas R Karl , Gavin Schmidt
> , James Hansen , Michael Oppenheimer
>
> Hi all
>
> Well I have my own article on where the heck is global warming ?
> We are asking that here in Boulder where we have broken records the
> past two days for the coldest days on record. We had 4 inches of
> snow. The high the last 2 days was below 30F and the normal is 69F,
> and it smashed the previous records for these days by 10F. The low
> was about 18F and also a record low, well below the previous record
> low.
>
> This is January weather (see the Rockies baseball playoff game was
> canceled on saturday and then played last night in below freezing
> weather).
>
> Trenberth, K. E., 2009: An imperative for climate change planning:
> tracking Earth's global energy. Current Opinion in Environmental
> Sustainability, 1, 19-27, doi:10.1016/j.cosust.2009.06.001. [1][PDF]
> (A PDF of the published version can be obtained from the author.)
> ***
>
> The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the
> moment and it is a travesty that we can't. The CERES data published
> in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even
> more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is
> inadequate.***
>
> Here's one wherein Jones allegedly told Mann to delete e-mail
> messages:
>
> From: Phil Jones
> To: "Michael E. Mann"
> Subject: IPCC & FOI
> Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008
>
> Mike,
>
> Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
>
> Keith will do likewise. He's not in at the moment - minor family
> crisis.
>
> Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don't have
> his new email address.
>
> We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
>
> I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature
> paper!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
>
> Climatic Research Unit
>
> Here's a REALLY juicy one from Mann wherein he allegedly instructed
> the group to use the website RealClimate, and addressed how comments
> would be screened to control the message:
>
> From: "Michael E. Mann"
> To: Tim Osborn, Keith Briffa
> Subject: update
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:51:53 -0500
> Cc: Gavin Schmidt
>
> guys, I see that Science has already gone online w/ the new issue,
> so we put up the RC post. By now, you've probably read that nasty
> McIntyre thing. Apparently, he violated the embargo on his website (I
> don't go there personally, but so I'm informed).
>
> Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you're free to use RC in
> any way you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be
> careful about what comments we screen through, and we'll be very
> careful to answer any questions that come up to any extent we can. On
> the other hand, you might want to visit the thread and post replies
> yourself. We can hold comments up in the queue and contact you
> about whether or not you think they should be screened through or
> not, and if so, any comments you'd like us to include.
>
> You're also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC
> as a resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation
> put forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. We'll
> use our best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont'get to use the
> RC comments as a megaphone.
>
> This e-mail lacking a header allegedly from Jones discussed exactly
> how to manipulate temperature data being sent to climate realist
> Steven McIntyre as part of one of his Freedom of Information Act
> requests:
>
> Options appear to be:
>
> Send them the data
>
> Send them a subset removing station data from some of the
> countries who made us pay in the normals papers of Hulme et al.
> (1990s) and also any number that David can remember. This should also
> omit some other countries like (Australia, NZ, Canada, Antarctica).
> Also could extract some of the sources that Anders added in (31-38
> source codes in J&M 2003). Also should remove many of the early
> stations that we coded up in the 1980s.
>
> Send them the raw data as is, by reconstructing it from GHCN. How
> could this be done? Replace all stations where the WMO ID agrees with
> what is in GHCN. This would be the raw data, but it would annoy them.
>
> Finally, here's an e-mail message wherein Jones allegedly celebrated
> the death of a climate realist:
>
> From: Phil Jones
> To: //';l[1]='a';l[2]='/';l[3]='<';l[4]=' 120';l[5]=' 120';l[6]='
> 120';l[7]=' 46';l[8]=' 120';l[9]=' 120';l[10]=' 120';l[11]='
> 120';l[12]=' 120';l[13]=' 118';l[14]=' 64';l[15]=' 110';l[16]='
> 110';l[17]=' 97';l[18]=' 109';l[19]='>';l[20]='\"';l[21]='
> 120';l[22]=' 120';l[23]=' 120';l[24]=' 46';l[25]=' 120';l[26]='
> 120';l[27]=' 120';l[28]=' 120';l[29]=' 120';l[30]=' 118';l[31]='
> 64';l[32]=' 110';l[33]=' 110';l[34]=' 97';l[35]='
> 109';l[36]=':';l[37]='o';l[38]='t';l[39]='l';l[40]='i';l[41]='a';l[42]='m';l[43]='\"';l[44]='=';l[45]='f';l[46]='e';l[47]='r';l[48]='h';l[49]='a
> ';l[50]='<'; for (var i = l.length-1; i >= 0; i=i-1){ if
> (l[i].substring(0, 1) == ' ')
> document.write("&#"+unescape(l[i].substring(1))+";"); else
> document.write(unescape(l[i])); } //]]> ma...@vxxxxx.xxx [8]
> Subject: Fwd: John L. Daly dead Date: Thu Jan 29 14:17:01 2004
>
> From: Timo H?meranta
> To:
> Subject: John L. Daly dead
> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:04:28 +0200
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
> Importance: Normal
>
> Mike,
> In an odd way this is cheering news ! One other thing about the CC
> paper - just found another email - is that McKittrick says it is
> standard practice in Econometrics journals to give all the data and
> codes !! According to legal advice IPR overrides this.
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
> "It is with deep sadness that the Daly Family have to announce the
> sudden death of John Daly.Condolences may be sent to John's email
> account (daly@XXXX) "
> Reported with great sadness
>
> The Examiner.com found [9] another interesting e-mail message
> allegedly from a Dr. Tom Wigley to Jones (author's emphasis):
>
> Phil, Here are some speculations on correcting SSTs to partly
> explain the 1940s warming blip. If you look at the attached plot you
> will see that the land also shows the 1940s blip (as I'm sure you
> know). So, if we could reduce the ocean blip by, say, 0.15 degC, then
> this would be significant for the global mean - but we'd still have
> to explain the land blip. I've chosen 0.15 here deliberately. This
> still leaves an ocean blip, and i think one needs to have some form
> of ocean blip to explain the land blip (via either some common
> forcing, or ocean forcing land, or vice versa, or all of these). When
> you look at other blips, the land blips are 1.5 to 2 times (roughly)
> the ocean blips - higher sensitivity plus thermal inertia effects. My
> 0.15 adjustment leaves things consistent with this, so you can see
> where I am coming from. Removing ENSO does not affect this. It would
> be good to remove at least part of the 1940s blip, but we are still
> left with "why the blip". Let me go further. If you look at NH vs SH
> and the aerosol effect (qualitatively or with MAGICC) then with a
> reduced ocean blip we get continuous warming in the SH, and a cooling
> in the NH - just as one would expect with mainly NH aerosols. The
> other interesting thing is (as Foukal et al. note - from MAGICC) that
> the 1910-40 warming cannot be solar. The Sun can get at most 10% of
> this with Wang et al solar, less with Foukal solar. So this may well
> be NADW, as Sarah and I noted in 1987 (and also Schlesinger later). A
> reduced SST blip in the 1940s makes the 1910-40 warming larger than
> the SH (which it currently is not) - but not really enough. So . why
> was the SH so cold around 1910? Another SST problem? (SH/NH data also
> attached.) This stuff is in a report I am writing for EPRI, so I'd
> appreciate any comments you (and Ben) might have. Tom.
>
> Wow. Scary stuff.
>
> Once again, it is unknown which e-mail messages are real, and which
> if any are fraudulent. As you might imagine, numerous entities are
> sifting through the files to connect some dots.
>
> For its part, NewsBusters has sent e-mail messages requesting comment
> from all of the scientists mentioned in this article. None have
> responded yet.
>
> However, maybe more importantly, with cap and trade legislation
> currently before Congress, and an international climate meeting
> happening in Copenhagen next month, the question is what will
> America's leading media outlets do with this news.
>
> Should we expect investigative television programs like "60 Minutes"
> and "20/20" to be all over this story interrogating the scientists
> allegedly involved in these e-mail exchanges?
>
> Will America's press be as eager to find out the truth of this matter
> as they were in fact-checking former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin's
> new book?
>
> Consider that at the time of this article's publishing, only
> FoxNews.com [10], NPR.com [11], and WSJ.com [12] have logged printed
> stories on this subject from this side of the Atlantic.
>
> Will others follow, and if so, how will they report what on the
> surface appears to be a huge, developing story?
>
> Stay tuned.
>
> *****Update: Readers are STRONGLY encouraged to watch the scrambling
> going on [13] at RealClimate.
> Source URL:
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/20/possible-conspiracy-misreport-temperatures-found-media-mum
>
> Links:
> [1]
> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/
> [2]
> http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/hadleycru-says-leaked-data-is-real.html
> [3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm [4]
> http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091120/full/news.2009.1101.html [5]
> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked#63657
> [6] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390537/posts
> [7] mailto:k.br...@XXX.osborn
> [8] mailto:ma...@vxxxxx.xxx
> [9]
> http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d20-ClimateGate--Climate-centers-server-hacked-revealing-documents-and-emails?cid=exrss-Climate-Change-Examiner#update
> [10] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576009,00.html
> [11]
> http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/11/emails_cru_east_anglia_climate.html
> [12]
> http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/11/20/hacked-sensitive-documents-lifted-from-hadley-climate-center/
>[13]
> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/#comments
>
> The Hottest Hoax Around!
>
> Ray

"I'm not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained e-mails,"
says Mann. "However, their theft constitutes serious criminal activity. I'm
hoping that the perpetrators will be tracked down and prosecuted to the fullest
extent the law allows."

This is exactly the same kind of stunt that I posted a day or two ago. ie. That he is the victim and anything taken is not admissable anywhere.

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Ken Marino

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You are right. Let's get those guys as quick as we can. And when we catch
them let's thank them with all our hearts for exposing the sham that the
AGW people have been pushing all these years.

Ken Marino

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:57:45 -0500, WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:50:41 -0500, "James" <king...@iglou.com> wrote:
>
>>WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
>>> Possible Conspiracy To Falsify Temperature Data Uncovered By Noel
>>> Sheppard
>>>
>>> E-mail messages between high-ranking scientists appear to indicate a
>>> conspiracy by some of the world's leading global warming alarmists to
>>> falsify temperature data in order to exaggerate global averages.
>>>
>>> Those involved allegedly include: James Hansen, Director of NASA's
>>> Goddard Institute for Space Studies; Michael Mann, famous for Mann's
>>> "Hockey Stick"; Gavin Schmidt, NASA climate modeler, and; Stephen
>>> Schneider, Stanford professor and Al Gore confidant.
>

> Snip


>
>>> *****Update: Readers are STRONGLY encouraged to watch the scrambling
>>> going on [13] at RealClimate.
>>> Source URL:
>>> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/20/possible-
conspiracy-misreport-temperatures-found-media-mum
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/
>>> [2]
>>> http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/hadleycru-
says-leaked-data-is-real.html
>>> [3] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8370282.stm [4]
>>> http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091120/full/news.2009.1101.html [5]
>>> http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/
comments/hadley_hacked#63657
>>> [6] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2390537/posts [7]
>>> mailto:k.br...@XXX.osborn
>>> [8] mailto:ma...@vxxxxx.xxx
>>> [9]
>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d20-
ClimateGate--Climate-centers-server-hacked-revealing-documents-and-emails?
cid=exrss-Climate-Change-Examiner#update
>>> [10] http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576009,00.html [11]

>>> The Hottest Hoax Around!
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>>"I'm not going to comment on the content of illegally obtained e-mails,"
>>says Mann. "However, their theft constitutes serious criminal activity.
>>I'm hoping that the perpetrators will be tracked down and prosecuted to
>>the fullest extent the law allows."
>>
>>This is exactly the same kind of stunt that I posted a day or two ago.
>>ie. That he is the victim and anything taken is not admissable anywhere.
>

> Speaks to Character though... or in this case, lack thereof..
>
> Ray

Not to mention the character of those involved in the cover-up which you
in no way say a single bad word about. Typical of a lib with their
universal disease-- a mental disorder of the nth degree. Condemn the
messenger (who definately was wrong in what he did) but ignore the
message. Typical ends justify the means liberal attitude.

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