Re: IRAN Ready To Hit UK
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> schrieb im
>> Newsbeitrag news:84ni74tjchja9vl1i...@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52255/Iran-ready-to-hit-UK
>>>
>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities,
>>> intelligence experts warned last night.
>>>
>
> how dare Iran think they can defend themselves. they should just bow
> before Israel and America and let them bomb them. How dare they fight
> back.
Indeed! I quite agree! SUCH a pain in the arse!
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
Seon Ferguson
"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <home...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> schrieb im
>>> Newsbeitrag news:84ni74tjchja9vl1i...@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52255/Iran-ready-to-hit-UK
>>>>
>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities,
>>>> intelligence experts warned last night.
>>>>
>>
>> how dare Iran think they can defend themselves. they should just bow
>> before Israel and America and let them bomb them. How dare they fight
>> back.
>
> Indeed! I quite agree! SUCH a pain in the arse!
>
invaders what nerve.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
So Seon, condoning the deliberate murder of women and children now?
Man! Was I wrong about you. The past 2 days you've shown yourself to be
both a racist and a supporter of terrorism. Ya think ya know someone...
Shill #2
--
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Seon Ferguson
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some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves against
israel? we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
lick the boots of the police. How dare people think they have rights. Shame
on them!
Government Shill #2
wrote:
>
>"Government Shill #2" <gov....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:tfmj7414bpijlrbsh...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:26:14 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <home...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:6du1avF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> schrieb im
>>>>>> Newsbeitrag news:84ni74tjchja9vl1i...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52255/Iran-ready-to-hit-UK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities,
>>>>>>> intelligence experts warned last night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> how dare Iran think they can defend themselves. they should just bow
>>>>> before Israel and America and let them bomb them. How dare they fight
>>>>> back.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed! I quite agree! SUCH a pain in the arse!
>>>>
>>>Yeah imagine that someone actually defending themselves against foreign
>>>invaders what nerve.
>>
>> So Seon, condoning the deliberate murder of women and children now?
>>
>> Man! Was I wrong about you. The past 2 days you've shown yourself to be
>> both a racist and a supporter of terrorism. Ya think ya know someone...
>>
>I guess you think iran has the right to defend its self as well.
Yeah. Sure. Not with terrorism. Terrorism is never justified.
>honestly some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves against
>israel?
There are ways people can defend themselves against other people. Terrorist
attacks, murder of innocent women and children, is not one of them.
>we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
>lick the boots of the police.
Their.
WTF are you ranting about now? Rainbow Children?
>How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
abelard
<nuke.is...@your.earliest.convenience> wrote:
>"abelard" <abel...@abelard.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:01tj7416in8d717l2...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:44:39 GMT, Svenne <tvaer...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Bloody hell, the dastardly bastards, if we blitz them with devastating
>>>air strikes, they will hit back.
>>
>> you mean, perhaps they will try....
>>
>>> How depraved can you get? why can't
>>>they lie back and take it like gentlemen when we attack them?
>>
>> certainly a wiser and safer option for them
>You're talking to diehard (finno-?) swedish communist - Svenne
>tvaer...@aol.com . In other words, 'all hope abandon, ye who enter in'
>(-to an exchange of words with him).
i still don't mind....
the fact that he is nutz is not my concern.....
my only concern is that he remains a part of the minority dying cult..
we now have problems with another cult and the more fools like
him are cleared out of the way the better
the best way to achieve that is to encourage them to make a foolish
public spectacle of themselves
once socialism was out recruiting and killing around the world....
now it is jihadism.....
very likely there'll be another lot of idiots tomorrow.....
100 years ago it was the duty of others....
100 years forward it will be the duty of others....
that is how we struggle out of the swamps and the caves...
this is our time of duty....
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joe
> In message <2194vu....@news.alt.net>, Michael Laudahn
> eOpposition <nuke.is...@your.earliest.convenience> writes
> >
> > When will our criminally insane politicians confess their capital
> > mul-cul error and start mass-deporting third-worlders, most of all
> > mohammedans, no matter who?!
>
> Perhaps when our criminally insane politicians stop murdering tens of
> thousands of them in their own countries.
>
> Political points aside, it is the violence and instability resulting
> from our attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan that are preventing us from
> deporting people back to those countries.
I agree, but we seem to have an inability to send anyone back to their
own country, and just lie back and accept anyone.
--
BDK
gov....@gmail.com says...
I thought it was just me! WTF are Rainbow Children?
>
>
>
> >How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>
> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
Seon is hearing the call of the kookside...."kookooo! kookooooo!"
>
> Shill #2
> --
> I am not young enough to know everything.
> Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
>
--
BDK
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
Government Shill #2
wrote:
Must be something on a kOOk page?
>> >How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>>
>> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>
>
>Seon is hearing the call of the kookside...."kookooo! kookooooo!"
I am totally stunned that someone with Seon's history of bleeding his heart
out for the innocent people of the world would now condone their murder by
the state of Iran, for any reason.
Ya think you know someone...
Seon Ferguson
"Terrorism is "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of
coercion."
You are right it never is.
>>honestly some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves
>>against
>>israel?
>
> There are ways people can defend themselves against other people.
> Terrorist
> attacks, murder of innocent women and children, is not one of them.
>
>
Try telling that to israel and America.
>
>>we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
>>lick the boots of the police.
>
> Their.
>
> WTF are you ranting about now? Rainbow Children?
>
http://www.infowars.com/?p=3131
>
>
>>How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>
> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>
No one has a right to bomb another country that doesnt even have a nuclear
program and never attacked any other country (appart from selling weapons to
America's enemies)
Seon Ferguson
"BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e41a711...@news.buckeye-express.com...
Hey I'm agreeing with you Iran shouldnt retaliate. It should just it there
and take it and let Israel bomb it into submission.
Roedy Green
>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities,
>>>> intelligence experts warned last night.
Why is anyone in the least surprised by these developments? Bush
announced in 2001 he was going to annihilate Iran in his "axis of
evil" speech.
What would you do if you were Iran? The only thing that can deter a
foe as big as the USA/Britain combined is a nuke. It worked for
North Korea who were similarly threatened with annihilation.
It is highly unlikely they could reach Britain or the USA, so they
have to go for a hostage -- Israel, whom they hate with a passion
anyway for barging in and stealing land and killing Palestinians with
the same abandon the Europeans slaughtered the native North Americans
claiming God told them to do it.
Even the nuclear poker cocky attitude, and the way of feigning
irresponsibility and lack of concern for life was pioneered and
documented by Americans as part of MAD strategy. This goes back to
the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. Kennedy had me fooled he was going
to kill us all.
--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
The Java Glossary
http://mindprod.com
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
So what and what are Rainbow Children???????????
> >
> >
> > >How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
> >
> > No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>
>
> >Seon is hearing the call of the kookside...."kookooo! kookooooo!"
>
> Hey I'm agreeing with you Iran shouldnt retaliate. It should just it there
> and take it and let Israel bomb it into submission.
>
>
WTF are you talking about now? When did I say that? It might happen, and
it wouldn't upset me tremendously, but when did I say that? If Israel
hits Iran, it won't be TARGETING civilians, The magic word is TARGETING.
You're sliding towards the kookside Seon...
Seon Ferguson
Well you said I was sliding towards the kook side. I assumed that meant you
supported a strike on iran. What else can iran do? its obvious attacking
iran is on israel's agenda.
Are you sure you wont be upset tremendously? What about high oil prices? are
you prepared to pay even more for oil because of a war that has nothing to
do with America?
Government Shill #2
wrote:
Then why are you saying it's justified?
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
>"Terrorism is "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of
>coercion."
>You are right it never is.
>
>>>honestly some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves
>>>against
>>>israel?
>>
>> There are ways people can defend themselves against other people.
>> Terrorist
>> attacks, murder of innocent women and children, is not one of them.
>>
>>
>Try telling that to israel and America.
Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>>>we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
>>>lick the boots of the police.
>>
>> Their.
>>
>> WTF are you ranting about now? Rainbow Children?
>>
>http://www.infowars.com/?p=3131
>
>>
>>
>>>How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>>
>> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>>
>No one has a right to bomb another country that doesnt even have a nuclear
>program and never attacked any other country (appart from selling weapons to
>America's enemies)
Under certain circumstances they do. There are laws covering this very
thing. They are called the Laws of Armed Conflict. You have been shown them
on several occasions.
Seon Ferguson
ever invades Iran it will be because Bush finally gave into the Israel
lobby.
BDK
I swear sometimes there's like an intermittent connection in that head
of yours. I said above IF Israel hits Iran, the act of HITTING them
won't upset me too much, since Iran will almost certainly deserve it.
How is it obvious attacking Iran is on Israel's agenda? Seems like most
of the people talking about it are the usual Israeli haters, and Iran,
of course. If they didn't make the threats they have made, Israel
wouldn't be worried about them. Some of the Muslim governments have as
big a hard on against Israel as the jew hating kooks do. Of course, if
they didn't have the jews to put up for the cause of all the
arabs/muslim's woes, maybe the dumb asses living in the countries would
figure out it's their own governments that are fucking them over.
If Iraq's government gets stupid, it will probably be the last stupid
thing it does.
In the long run, if it happens, paying higher oil prices may be a good
thing. I guess we will find out, whatever way it goes.
Seon Ferguson
You mean iran?
>In the long run, if it happens, paying higher oil prices may be a good
>thing. I guess we will find out, whatever way it goes.
Its not just the "jew haters" who are talking about attacking Iran. Israel
is having war games, the israel lobby is pushing for Bush to invade iran,
neocon's like william kristol are even talking about how Bush should invade
Iran if it looks like Obama should win.
How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
expensive they are right now?
Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel are
the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded Palestine and
took over.
Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
St Georges Day April 23rd
shit stirring to get us to attack Iran. ATTACK ISRAEL, not just our
enemy, probably our ONLY enemy.
St Georges Day April 23rd
pornographer, Richard Desmond.
The real problem in the event of war with Iran is that the current
Allied strategy in Iraq depends on Shia cooperation. The vast majority
of Basra's population for example is Shia.
Somewhere between a fifth and a quarter of the Afghan population is
also Shia.
Though it would be wrong to assume that every Shia is pro-Iranian, it
is certain that any Israeli or Anglo-American attack on Iran would
trigger region wide Shia resistance.
And rightly so. Getting back to the Express hypothesis: even though
this business of Hezbollah sleeper cells etc is actually propaganda
hype to try to persuade Express readers that Iran is our enemy, any
Briton who supported Zionist aggression against Iran should surely
expect and deserve some sort of reprisal.
Do Zionists (including Christian Zionists) really believe that God has
given them a divine right to overturn other governments without any
armed response? Hasn't the total failure of their efforts to
marginalise Hezbollah in Lebanon taught them anything?
Seon Ferguson
"St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
message
news:eca4543e-4d53-4cf2...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> ISRAEL attacked us on 7/7. ISRAEL attacked us on 9/11.
So where do you live the UK or America?
Government Shill #2
wrote:
You're not real good a reading comprehension, are you?
No. It doesn't *justify* invading Iran. It was not meant to. Where did you
read that it does?
What it does justify is the use of armed force under the right
circumstances. That was the point in discussion. Governments (Israel and
the US for example) can use armed force if the Laws of Armed Conflict are
followed. The use of terrorism, by governments or individuals is *never*
acceptable, under *any* circumstances.
Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
Shill #2
abelard
<bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>This propaganda hype is coming from a newspaper owned by a Jewish
>pornographer, Richard Desmond.
>
>The real problem in the event of war with Iran is that the current
>Allied strategy in Iraq depends on Shia cooperation. The vast majority
>of Basra's population for example is Shia.
>
>Somewhere between a fifth and a quarter of the Afghan population is
>also Shia.
>
>Though it would be wrong to assume that every Shia is pro-Iranian, it
>is certain that any Israeli or Anglo-American attack on Iran would
>trigger region wide Shia resistance.
oh dear....better give up then...
god you people are such cowards....
>And rightly so. Getting back to the Express hypothesis: even though
>this business of Hezbollah sleeper cells etc is actually propaganda
>hype to try to persuade Express readers that Iran is our enemy,
nah, iran is everybody's bosom pal.....
>any
>Briton who supported Zionist aggression against Iran should surely
>expect and deserve some sort of reprisal.
lookee, why not just emigrate to iran while you still have time
>Do Zionists (including Christian Zionists) really believe that God has
>given them a divine right to overturn other governments without any
>armed response?
and now it's god's fault....you have mush in your head....
>Hasn't the total failure of their efforts to
>marginalise Hezbollah in Lebanon
as that wasn't the objective, why bother with your incredible
ignorance...
>taught them anything?
abelard
wrote:
>"St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
like you, he live up his own cowardly fundament
abelard
<see_w...@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear facilities,
>>>>> intelligence experts warned last night.
>
>Why is anyone in the least surprised by these developments? Bush
>announced in 2001 he was going to annihilate Iran in his "axis of
>evil" speech.
liar
>What would you do if you were Iran? The only thing that can deter a
>foe as big as the USA/Britain combined is a nuke. It worked for
>North Korea who were similarly threatened with annihilation.
>
>It is highly unlikely they could reach Britain or the USA, so they
>have to go for a hostage -- Israel, whom they hate with a passion
>anyway for barging in and stealing land and killing Palestinians with
>the same abandon the Europeans slaughtered the native North Americans
>claiming God told them to do it.
>
>Even the nuclear poker cocky attitude, and the way of feigning
>irresponsibility and lack of concern for life was pioneered and
>documented by Americans as part of MAD strategy. This goes back to
>the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. Kennedy had me fooled he was going
>to kill us all.
--
BDK
@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com says...
> ISRAEL attacked us on 7/7. ISRAEL attacked us on 9/11. ISRAEL is now
> shit stirring to get us to attack Iran. ATTACK ISRAEL, not just our
> enemy, probably our ONLY enemy.
>
>
Tell the doctors you're off the deep end again.
BDK
Of course.
>
> >In the long run, if it happens, paying higher oil prices may be a good
> >thing. I guess we will find out, whatever way it goes.
>
> Its not just the "jew haters" who are talking about attacking Iran. Israel
> is having war games, the israel lobby is pushing for Bush to invade iran,
> neocon's like william kristol are even talking about how Bush should invade
> Iran if it looks like Obama should win.
Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
understand?
Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the leftwing
911 kooktards.
> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
> expensive they are right now?
Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
transport.
> Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel are
> the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded Palestine and
> took over.
And before they "took over" none of these other countries gave a shit
about the poor poor Palestinians.
> Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
Of course you do...
BDK
Oh, And what/who are the RAINBOW CHILDREN??
Seon Ferguson
>Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
>COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
>fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
>understand?
>
>
It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
>Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the leftwing
>911 kooktards.
>
But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
written are in the Bush administration.
>> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
>> expensive they are right now?
>
>Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
>transport.
>
Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
they invest in. It never end's.
>> Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel are
>> the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded Palestine and
>> took over.
>
>And before they "took over" none of these other countries gave a shit
>about the poor poor Palestinians.
>
Exactly. I wouldnt have if the Brittish hadnt put there noses in where
they dont belong.
>> Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
>
>Of course you do...
>
>>
The British were the one's whos igned the balfour decleration. They
were the one's who carved up Palastine.
Seon Ferguson
I told you or gov shill I thought it was the rainbow children but I
was wrong. It was the rainbow family or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_gathering
Hippes being harassed by police just for taking part in there
Consitutional rights to peacfully assemble.
Seon Ferguson
So why do you accept it when its done by America or Israel?
>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>
>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>
I did. They dont actually target civilians but they threaten to use
force and its pretty obvious in all wars there will always be civilian
casulties.
Seon Ferguson
Didnt you get the memo? its not terrorisim or torture when its being
commited by America or Israel. Its only torture or terrorisim when the
enemy does it.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
>>"Terrorism is "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of
>>coercion."
>>You are right it never is.
>>
>>>>honestly some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves
>>>>against
>>>>israel?
>>>
>>> There are ways people can defend themselves against other people.
>>> Terrorist
>>> attacks, murder of innocent women and children, is not one of them.
>>>
>>>
>>Try telling that to israel and America.
>
>
>Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
>When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>
>
They are threatening to use force to get Iran to comply with there
demands. Of course it will take 6 years for Iran to build a nuclear
program and Israel has tones of nukes but lets not be distracted by
facts.
>
>>>>we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
>>>>lick the boots of the police.
>>>
>>> Their.
>>>
>>> WTF are you ranting about now? Rainbow Children?
>>>
>>http://www.infowars.com/?p=3131
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>>>
>>> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>>>
>>No one has a right to bomb another country that doesnt even have a nuclear
>>program and never attacked any other country (appart from selling weapons to
>>America's enemies)
>
>Under certain circumstances they do. There are laws covering this very
>thing. They are called the Laws of Armed Conflict. You have been shown them
>on several occasions.
I dont care about laws of armed conflicts. the only just wars in my
eyes are when your country is being threatened or has been attacked
(like afganastan after 911)
Arent you sick of the politicans lying to you? I know deep down you
must know something is going wrong. All they do is lie to us and scare
us into believing there bullshit and frankly I am sick of it.
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. ... I
think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm
liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's
insane about it."
-John Lennon
BikeFan
So you suggest Britain should take it back and hand it over to the
Palestinians? Should take about a week, if they really wanted to. Would
certainly get the Knesset off the hook....
--
BikeFan
Seon Ferguson
wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:58:03 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
>>message
>>news:eca4543e-4d53-4cf2...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> ISRAEL attacked us on 7/7. ISRAEL attacked us on 9/11.
>>
>>So where do you live the UK or America?
>
>like you, he live up his own cowardly fundament
Lol in his own little world.
On the internet there will always be people that are to far left even
for me.
Ariadne
Now it's obvious you're a Muslim!
Seon Ferguson
<mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>So you suggest Britain should take it back and hand it over to the
>Palestinians? Should take about a week, if they really wanted to. Would
>certainly get the Knesset off the hook....
No the Zionists control Israel now but back then they thought they
rulled the world just like America does now. Israel has every right to
exist just like any other country I'm just trying to show people the
Arab's point of view in all this. They arent just "evil people" who
hate and persecute the Jews for no reason. They should forgive the
Jews yes but they have a reason.
I do however think israel should hand over the terrorirty it stole but
maybe when the Arab's stop targeting innocent civilians like they did
when the gaza strip was handed to them. The last thing we need is more
terrorisim but i'm digressing big time now.
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
>
> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
> >understand?
> >
> >
> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
them all the time.
>
> >Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the leftwing
> >911 kooktards.
> >
> But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
> written are in the Bush administration.
Whoopie.
>
> >> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
> >> expensive they are right now?
> >
> >Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
> >transport.
> >
> Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
> losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
> wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
> they invest in. It never end's.
They will be involved, money is money.
>
> >> Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel are
> >> the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded Palestine and
> >> took over.
As we used to say, "Tough Titty".
> >
> >And before they "took over" none of these other countries gave a shit
> >about the poor poor Palestinians.
> >
> Exactly. I wouldnt have if the Brittish hadnt put there noses in where
> they dont belong.
It was the UN that put Israel into existence.
>
> >> Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
> >
> >Of course you do...
> >
> >>
> The British were the one's whos igned the balfour decleration. They
> were the one's who carved up Palastine.
Yawn. Israel isn't going anywhere. As long as the Muslims insist on
using it as a bogeyman to keep a lid on their own problems, they won't
be going anywhere either. And when/if the oil runs out, or a substitute
source of energy is found that whacks the price of oil down, they will
be up a shit creek. They can't feed themselves, for the most part. I
won't see it (When oil loses some of it's importance), but maybe you
will.
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
What part do you consider "stolen"?
BDK
seo...@gmail.com says...
How can you live with all the hand wringing you do all the time?
Government Shill #2
When has the USA committed a terrorist act? When? Where? How?
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
>>>"Terrorism is "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of
>>>coercion."
>>>You are right it never is.
>>>
>>>>>honestly some people, dont you know we arent allowed to defend ourselves
>>>>>against
>>>>>israel?
>>>>
>>>> There are ways people can defend themselves against other people.
>>>> Terrorist
>>>> attacks, murder of innocent women and children, is not one of them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Try telling that to israel and America.
>>
>>
>>Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
>>When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>>
>>
>They are threatening to use force to get Iran to comply with there
>demands.
Threats are *not* acts of terrorism. Jeezus! And the fucking word is
*their*.
>Of course it will take 6 years for Iran to build a nuclear
>program and Israel has tones of nukes but lets not be distracted by
>facts.
The question was "Israel and the United States have set out to target and
kill civilians? When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?"
And now you are ranting about Israel's weapons? Answer the fucking
question!
>>>>>we should lick there boots. Just like the rainbow children should
>>>>>lick the boots of the police.
>>>>
>>>> Their.
>>>>
>>>> WTF are you ranting about now? Rainbow Children?
>>>>
>>>http://www.infowars.com/?p=3131
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How dare people think they have rights. Shame on them!
>>>>
>>>> No one has the *right* to target civilians. Anytime. Anywhere.
>>>>
>>>No one has a right to bomb another country that doesnt even have a nuclear
>>>program and never attacked any other country (appart from selling weapons to
>>>America's enemies)
>>
>>Under certain circumstances they do. There are laws covering this very
>>thing. They are called the Laws of Armed Conflict. You have been shown them
>>on several occasions.
>
>I dont care about laws of armed conflicts. the only just wars in my
>eyes are when your country is being threatened or has been attacked
>(like afganastan after 911)
The point, Pin Head, is that the forms of aggression used by the USA,
Israel and others are *legal*. Terrorism is not. You, at the start of this
thread, advocated the use of terrorism, the act of *targeting* women and
children for maiming or death, as a means that Iran should use to defend
itself. You are advocating murder.
>Arent you sick of the politicans lying to you? I know deep down you
>must know something is going wrong. All they do is lie to us and scare
>us into believing there bullshit and frankly I am sick of it.
I gave up worrying about lying politicians about 20 years ago. They
bluster, they blurt, they line their pockets and they are gone... For the
man in the street nothing changes from year to year.
>"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. ... I
>think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm
>liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's
>insane about it."
>-John Lennon
Ok. So? Change it. Run for office. Start your own party. Stop whining on
usenet about how terrible things are. And stop advocating the murder of
civilians.
Government Shill #2
WHEN HAVE ISRAEL OR AMERICA COMMITTED A TERRORIST ACT? This is about the
fourth time I've asked you this now.
>
>>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>>
>>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill civilians?
>>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>>
>I did. They dont actually target civilians
Then it is not terrorism, you nit wit.
>but they threaten to use force
THREATS? Threatening someone is otherwise called "diplomacy". It's what
diplomats do.
>and its pretty obvious in all wars there will always be civilian
>casulties.
Yes. And unless they are killed in contravention of the Laws of Armed
Combat it is perfectly *legal*. Maybe not moral, but we aren't talking
about that. Wars, and war like acts, are legal. Terrorism, state or
otherwise are not.
Shill #2
--
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
one of us is a moron,
I think that it's you.
Seon Ferguson
with me on this one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242
Seon Ferguson
> In article <vlpn74tdmbd1t27gf...@4ax.com>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
>> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
>> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
>> >understand?
>> >
>> >
>> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
>> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
>> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
>
> Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
> them all the time.
>
>>
contest.
>> >Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the leftwing
>> >911 kooktards.
>> >
>> But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
>> written are in the Bush administration.
>
> Whoopie.
>
>>
>> >> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
>> >> expensive they are right now?
>> >
>> >Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
>> >transport.
>> >
>> Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
>> losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
>> wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
>> they invest in. It never end's.
>
> They will be involved, money is money.
>
>>
So whats the point of investing in alternative energy anyway?
>> >> Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel
>> >> are
>> >> the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded
>> >> Palestine and
>> >> took over.
>
> As we used to say, "Tough Titty".
>
>> >
>> >And before they "took over" none of these other countries gave a shit
>> >about the poor poor Palestinians.
>> >
>> Exactly. I wouldnt have if the Brittish hadnt put there noses in where
>> they dont belong.
>
> It was the UN that put Israel into existence.
>
>>
Good point but the british left didnt they?
>> >> Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
>> >
>> >Of course you do...
>> >
>> >>
>> The British were the one's whos igned the balfour decleration. They
>> were the one's who carved up Palastine.
>
> Yawn. Israel isn't going anywhere. As long as the Muslims insist on
> using it as a bogeyman to keep a lid on their own problems, they won't
> be going anywhere either. And when/if the oil runs out, or a substitute
> source of energy is found that whacks the price of oil down, they will
> be up a shit creek. They can't feed themselves, for the most part. I
> won't see it (When oil loses some of it's importance), but maybe you
> will.
>
>
I never said Israel was going anywhere.
Seon Ferguson
>
>
>
>>
>>>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>>>
>>>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill
>>>>> civilians?
>>>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>>>
>>I did. They dont actually target civilians
>
>
> Then it is not terrorism, you nit wit.
>
Not according to wikipedia.
Seon Ferguson
decision. All Iran is doing is saying if you invade us we will defend our
selves and they have every right to.
I would run for office but nothing Australian politicans do can affect what
America or Israel wants to do. All we can do is affect the PM's decision to
not be involved in another unjust war. And you can argue how legal the war
is all you want but that doesnt make it right. I'm sick of being lied to and
I'm not believing the propaganda BS ever again. I may have been fooled with
iraq but I wont be fooled next time.
BikeFan
I agree. Give back the extra land in return for peace. Might also help
if the Israelis can get their heads out of their arses long enough to
come up with a mutual co-operative economic package. Right now, all I
see is a bunch of lunatics who want to take over the entire region.
--
BikeFan
BikeFan
The parts that some Zionists freaked out about when the Israeli schools
started showing maps of what the actual borders should be to the Israeli
kids. You know, depicting the extra bits Israel has annexed.
--
BikeFan
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
The Arabs attacked (Or were about to), so boo-hoo, they lost, and Israel
can keep it for all I care. I couldn't care less what the UN says.
Seon Ferguson
"BikeFan" <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g5hiob$1b2$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
Me to and I hate to admit it but if the Arab's get back more land they will
just use it to launch terrorist attacks from it. I think both sides need to
just forgive and work towards a better tomorow before something really bad
happens...
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>
> "BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22e5f0e49...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> > In article <vlpn74tdmbd1t27gf...@4ax.com>,
> > seo...@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
> >> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
> >> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
> >> >understand?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
> >> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
> >> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
> >
> > Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
> > them all the time.
> >
> >>
> Its all just a show of might. Its like a grown up version of a pissing
> contest.
No, it's not. How the hell do you expect a military to fight a war if
you don't PRACTICE IT??
>
> >> >Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the leftwing
> >> >911 kooktards.
> >> >
> >> But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
> >> written are in the Bush administration.
> >
> > Whoopie.
> >
> >>
> >> >> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise how
> >> >> expensive they are right now?
> >> >
> >> >Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
> >> >transport.
> >> >
> >> Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
> >> losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
> >> wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
> >> they invest in. It never end's.
> >
> > They will be involved, money is money.
> >
> >>
> So whats the point of investing in alternative energy anyway?
So when oil gets scarce, we have other means. Who cares what company
makes it happen? Do you think there is something special about oil
companies?
>
> >> >> Also yes, many Muslim countries hate Israel. But in there eyes Israel
> >> >> are
> >> >> the aggressors. In there eye's it was the Zionists who invaded
> >> >> Palestine and
> >> >> took over.
> >
> > As we used to say, "Tough Titty".
> >
> >> >
> >> >And before they "took over" none of these other countries gave a shit
> >> >about the poor poor Palestinians.
> >> >
> >> Exactly. I wouldnt have if the Brittish hadnt put there noses in where
> >> they dont belong.
> >
> > It was the UN that put Israel into existence.
> >
> >>
> Good point but the british left didnt they?
HUH??
>
> >> >> Of course I dont blaim Zionisim. I blaime typical Brittish arrogance.
> >> >
> >> >Of course you do...
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> The British were the one's whos igned the balfour decleration. They
> >> were the one's who carved up Palastine.
> >
> > Yawn. Israel isn't going anywhere. As long as the Muslims insist on
> > using it as a bogeyman to keep a lid on their own problems, they won't
> > be going anywhere either. And when/if the oil runs out, or a substitute
> > source of energy is found that whacks the price of oil down, they will
> > be up a shit creek. They can't feed themselves, for the most part. I
> > won't see it (When oil loses some of it's importance), but maybe you
> > will.
> >
> >
> I never said Israel was going anywhere.
>
>
I didn't say you did. I was referring to the Muslims and their jew
hating, used as a cover up to keep regimes in power. If they didn't have
the jews to whine about and blame for all their woes, some of them would
probably have a revolt on their hands pretty soon. Just like the jew
hating kooks on usenet, if they didn't have the jews to blame for their
failed lives, they would maybe have to look closer at themselves as the
causes of their failures.
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
How is a threat a terrorist act, if they haven't done anything yet?
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
> >>>
> >>>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill
> >>>>> civilians?
> >>>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
> >>>
> >>I did. They dont actually target civilians
> >
> >
> > Then it is not terrorism, you nit wit.
> >
> Not according to wikipedia.
BWHAHAHAHAHAAA!
Seon Ferguson
BikeFan
repeating Apartheid history.
--
BikeFan
Seon Ferguson
> In article <487c4add$0$29827$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> 01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>>
>> "BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22e5f0e49...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> > In article <vlpn74tdmbd1t27gf...@4ax.com>,
>> > seo...@gmail.com says...
>> >>
>> >> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
>> >> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
>> >> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
>> >> >understand?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
>> >> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
>> >> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
>> >
>> > Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
>> > them all the time.
>> >
>> >>
>> Its all just a show of might. Its like a grown up version of a pissing
>> contest.
>
> No, it's not. How the hell do you expect a military to fight a war if
> you don't PRACTICE IT??
>
>>
>> >> >Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the
>> >> >leftwing
>> >> >911 kooktards.
>> >> >
>> >> But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
>> >> written are in the Bush administration.
>> >
>> > Whoopie.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise
>> >> >> how
>> >> >> expensive they are right now?
>> >> >
>> >> >Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
>> >> >transport.
>> >> >
>> >> Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
>> >> losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
>> >> wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
>> >> they invest in. It never end's.
>> >
>> > They will be involved, money is money.
>> >
>> >>
>> So whats the point of investing in alternative energy anyway?
>
> So when oil gets scarce, we have other means. Who cares what company
> makes it happen? Do you think there is something special about oil
> companies?
>
>>
Yeah there rich and they fund the elections. If they move onto other sources
of energy they will just use those as excuses to start wars.
Well they hate the Jews so they need to demonise the people they hate to
justafy there hatred. The Jews arent the source of evil in this world. Greed
and curuption is.
BikeFan
Seon Ferguson
How is a death threat wrong if no one has actually killed anyone?
Government Shill #2
wrote:
Not by *targeting* innocent women and children they don't. They have
absolutely no right to do this whatsoever. This is the point I've been
trying to drive into your pointy little head. They have the right to defend
themselves whilst following the law. Terrorist attacks are immoral and
illegal. Acts of war are just immoral.
>I would run for office but nothing Australian politicans do can affect what
>America or Israel wants to do. All we can do is affect the PM's decision to
>not be involved in another unjust war. And you can argue how legal the war
>is all you want but that doesnt make it right. I'm sick of being lied to and
>I'm not believing the propaganda BS ever again.
And I am sick of trying to make you understand that illegal acts are
illegal whatever the "justification".
>I may have been fooled with
>iraq but I wont be fooled next time.
You are a fool. You can be fooled by your own shadow.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
THREATS are not terrorism moron. Blowing up people in a night club is
terrorism. Killing commuters going to work on their morning train is
terrorism. Shooting children in there school hall is terrorism. Are you
seeing a pattern emerging here?
>>>>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>>>>
>>>>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill
>>>>>> civilians?
>>>>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>>>>
>>>I did. They dont actually target civilians
>>
>>
>> Then it is not terrorism, you nit wit.
>>
>Not according to wikipedia.
Wikipedia says that? Show me.
Government Shill #2
wrote:
How can Seon be this dumb?
>> >>>Oh... and you didn't answer this:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Israel and the United States have set out to target and kill
>> >>>>> civilians?
>> >>>>> When? Where? Have you presented this evidence to a court?
>> >>>
>> >>I did. They dont actually target civilians
>> >
>> >
>> > Then it is not terrorism, you nit wit.
>> >
>> Not according to wikipedia.
>
>BWHAHAHAHAHAAA!
If it wasn't so frustrating I would be laughing too. How the hell can he
not get this?
Shill #2
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Government Shill #2
wrote:
>
>"BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.22e625ab3...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>> In article <487c4add$0$29827$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
>> 01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> "BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.22e5f0e49...@news.buckeye-express.com...
>>> > In article <vlpn74tdmbd1t27gf...@4ax.com>,
>>> > seo...@gmail.com says...
>>> >>
>>> >> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
>>> >> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
>>> >> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
>>> >> >understand?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
>>> >> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
>>> >> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
>>> >
>>> > Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
>>> > them all the time.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> Its all just a show of might. Its like a grown up version of a pissing
>>> contest.
>>
>> No, it's not. How the hell do you expect a military to fight a war if
>> you don't PRACTICE IT??
>>
>>>
>Ah ha so your saying there is going to be a war.
Of course. There are always wars. Somewhere. If the where no wars there
would be no need for armies and no need for war games. Is this news to you?
The ADF conducts Exercise Pitch Black, a "war game". It has done since the
mid '80s.
http://www.defence.gov.au/pitchblack/
http://www.defence.gov.au/pitchblack06/default.htm
The ADF participates in RIMPAC
http://www.defence.gov.au/rimpac08/index.htm
Do you think this means we are going to war with Hawaii? RIMPAC has been
held 21 times since 1971.
Red Flag. Held in Nevada. Is the RAAF at war with the US?
http://www.raaf.gov.au/exercises/redflag07/
OMG! There's been an exercise in Malaysia and Singapore! We must be about
to invade?
http://www.defence.gov.au/bersamapadu/default.htm
Seon Ferguson
> The ADF conducts Exercise Pitch Black, a "war game". It has done since the
> mid '80s.
>
> http://www.defence.gov.au/pitchblack/
> http://www.defence.gov.au/pitchblack06/default.htm
>
> The ADF participates in RIMPAC
>
> http://www.defence.gov.au/rimpac08/index.htm
>
> Do you think this means we are going to war with Hawaii? RIMPAC has been
> held 21 times since 1971.
>
> Red Flag. Held in Nevada. Is the RAAF at war with the US?
>
> http://www.raaf.gov.au/exercises/redflag07/
>
> OMG! There's been an exercise in Malaysia and Singapore! We must be about
> to invade?
>
No one said they will support Malaysia if they invade Singapore.
Seon Ferguson
terrorism.[3][4] Most common definitions of terrorism include only those
acts which are intended to create fear (terror)
What Israel is doing would strikle fear into my heart if I lived in Iran.
But we can debate what terrorism means all day. It wont change the fact that
invading iran will be just as much of a mistake as invading iraq was.
Seon Ferguson
Iran should go about things differently but what iran and America are doing
is wrong as well.
parr...@yahoo.com
> BDK wrote:
> > In article <487c4a30$0$29809$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> > 01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
> >>news:MPG.22e5f12b6...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> >>> In article <l90o7413a2gq138r5vmce0b3dsj2t57...@4ax.com>,
> >>> seo...@gmail.com says...
> >>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:17:15 -0400, BikeFan
> >>>> <mistonthelo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>> So you suggest Britain should take it back and hand it over to the
> >>>>> Palestinians? Should take about a week, if they really wanted to. Would
> >>>>> certainly get the Knesset off the hook....
> >>>> No the Zionists control Israel now but back then they thought they
> >>>> rulled the world just like America does now. Israel has every right to
> >>>> exist just like any other country I'm just trying to show people the
> >>>> Arab's point of view in all this. They arent just "evil people" who
> >>>> hate and persecute the Jews for no reason. They should forgive the
> >>>> Jews yes but they have a reason.
> >>>> I do however think israel should hand over the terrorirty it stole but
> >>>> maybe when the Arab's stop targeting innocent civilians like they did
> >>>> when the gaza strip was handed to them. The last thing we need is more
> >>>> terrorisim but i'm digressing big time now.
>
> >>> What part do you consider "stolen"?
>
> >> All land stolen after Israel was established by the UN. Oh and the UN agrees
> >> with me on this one
>
> > The Arabs attacked (Or were about to), so boo-hoo, they lost, and Israel
> > can keep it for all I care. I couldn't care less what the UN says.
>
> South Africa felt the same way and look how that ended. You Zionists
What makes you think BDK is a "Zionist", Bikey? What's yoru definition
of "Zinoist"? Someone who disagrees with you?
parr...@yahoo.com
..and push Israel into the sea.
>
> --
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>
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BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
>
> "BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22e625ab3...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> > In article <487c4add$0$29827$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
> > 01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> "BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.22e5f0e49...@news.buckeye-express.com...
> >> > In article <vlpn74tdmbd1t27gf...@4ax.com>,
> >> > seo...@gmail.com says...
> >> >>
> >> >> >Seon, Israel has war games, ALL THE TIME. SO DO WE, SO DO MOST
> >> >> >COUNTRIES, if not all. That's what militaries do when they aren't
> >> >> >fighting. What about this don't you (and the usual 911 kooktards)
> >> >> >understand?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> Come on its intimidation just like when Iran fired those test missles.
> >> >> It was to say "if you assholes step one foot in Iran we will be able
> >> >> to defend ourselves" and they have every right.
> >> >
> >> > Sigh..Some of it is, but that doesn't change the fact that they have
> >> > them all the time.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> Its all just a show of might. Its like a grown up version of a pissing
> >> contest.
> >
> > No, it's not. How the hell do you expect a military to fight a war if
> > you don't PRACTICE IT??
> >
> >>
> Ah ha so your saying there is going to be a war.
Seon, please get a fucking clue. I never said that. Do you think it's
smart to have an army that isn't trained to fight?
You're scaring the shit out of me!
>
> >> >> >Kristol is a right wing kooktard, he's as batshit crazy as the
> >> >> >leftwing
> >> >> >911 kooktards.
> >> >> >
> >> >> But the right wing kooktard's involved in the kook doccuments he has
> >> >> written are in the Bush administration.
> >> >
> >> > Whoopie.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >> How will paying higher oil prices be a good thing? Do you realise
> >> >> >> how
> >> >> >> expensive they are right now?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Because it forces research into alternative energy, and funding mass
> >> >> >transport.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Do you really think the oil companies will allow this? when they start
> >> >> losing money they will invest in alternative energies and instead of
> >> >> wars based on oil it will be wars based on whatever alternative energy
> >> >> they invest in. It never end's.
> >> >
> >> > They will be involved, money is money.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> So whats the point of investing in alternative energy anyway?
> >
> > So when oil gets scarce, we have other means. Who cares what company
> > makes it happen? Do you think there is something special about oil
> > companies?
> >
> >>
> Yeah there rich and they fund the elections. If they move onto other sources
> of energy they will just use those as excuses to start wars.
The kookside calls you, doesn't it Seon?
--
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
WTF is wrong with you?
>
> > http://www.defence.gov.au/bersamapadu/default.htm
> >
> > Shill #2
> > --
> > Roses are red,
> > violets are blue,
> > one of us is a moron,
> > I think that it's you.
>
>
--
BDK
@yahoo.co.uk says...
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Comparing SA and Israel is a stretch, to put it
mildly.
BDK
@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, parr...@yahoo.com says...
Shhhh! He may be a budding kooktard, we don't want to spook him!!
BDK
01.iinet.net.au>, seo...@gmail.com says...
If I lived in Iran, I would be way more worried about what the Iranian
government is doing than Israel.
Seon Ferguson
Or at least thats what people say I dont have an exact quote so if I'm going
by my new philosophy I'm going to have to wait until I find evidence...
Seon Ferguson
What other war were you thinking of?
Its the facts. If we ever do find alternative energy the same manopoly will
take over and we'll be having the same problems. If stating the facts make
me a kook then I guess I'm a kook.
Seon Ferguson
If I lived in Iran I'd move like my Bahai friends have. But they are evil
governments throughout the world and we dont invade them. Zimbabwae, China,
North Korea and the list goes on.
BDK
ANY WAR!! Holy shit, you've got to be putting me on, right?
If that is your destiny...
andyc...@googlemail.com
> In article <l90o7413a2gq138r5vmce0b3dsj2t57...@4ax.com>,
> seo...@gmail.com says...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:17:15 -0400, BikeFan
> > <mistonthelo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >So you suggest Britain should take it back and hand it over to the
> > >Palestinians? Should take about a week, if they really wanted to. Would
> > >certainly get the Knesset off the hook....
>
> > No the Zionists control Israel now but back then they thought they
> > rulled the world just like America does now. Israel has every right to
> > exist just like any other country I'm just trying to show people the
> > Arab's point of view in all this. They arent just "evil people" who
> > hate and persecute the Jews for no reason. They should forgive the
> > Jews yes but they have a reason.
> > I do however think israel should hand over the terrorirty it stole but
> > maybe when the Arab's stop targeting innocent civilians like they did
> > when the gaza strip was handed to them. The last thing we need is more
> > terrorisim but i'm digressing big time now.
>
> What part do you consider "stolen"?
>
> BDK
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2005/08/03/tell_tale_map_1
andyc...@googlemail.com
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:01:07 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:ihco7496ah365b1cl...@4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:13:57 +1000, Seon Ferguson <seo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:15:48 +0200, Government Shill #2
> >>><gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:17:19 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>wrote:
>
> >>>>>news:qnnl74llfrr8agq26...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:13:34 +1000, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>news:66uj74hdppopi5ags...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:20:01 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
> >>>>>>>> <seo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>news:tfmj7414bpijlrbsh...@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:26:14 +1000, "Seon Ferguson"
> >>>>>>>>>> <seo...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:6du1avF...@mid.individual.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> im
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newsbeitragnews:84ni74tjchja9vl1i...@4ax.com...
This is terrorism too:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/us-air-strike-killed-47-wedding-guests-866501.html
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
> "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <home...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6du1avF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52255/Iran-ready-to-hit-UK
>>>>>
>>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear
>>>>> facilities, intelligence experts warned last night.
>>>>>
>>>
>>> how dare Iran think they can defend themselves. they should just bow
>>> before Israel and America and let them bomb them. How dare they
>>> fight back.
>>
>> Indeed! I quite agree! SUCH a pain in the arse!
>>
> Yeah imagine that someone actually defending themselves against
> foreign invaders what nerve.
If that were actually so, I would agree. However, Iran is supplying Hamas
with latest weaponry FOC, it is almost certainly trying to make enough
Plutonium to make atom bombs, or at least use atomic weapons, it is a very
dangerous loose cannon governed by what appears to be fundamentalist
religious madmen. Iran is the oppressor here, not the defender! They are, in
fact, highly dangerous and have to be stopped.
--
Hal Ó Mearadhaigh.
(Glac bóg an saol agus glacfaidh an saol bóg thú).
BDK
27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, andyc...@googlemail.com says...
Excuse me while I roll my eyes...
Seon Ferguson
alt.conspiracy can enlighten me as well.
fasgnadh
>
> "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <home...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6e8dstF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>> "Hal Ó Mearadhaigh." <home...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6du1avF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Seon Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> "Steve Greene" <stephen_greene.@hotmail.com.invalid> schrieb im
>>>>>> Newsbeitrag news:84ni74tjchja9vl1i...@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/52255/Iran-ready-to-hit-UK
"The world's greatest newspaper" in their own estimation. B^p
>>>>>>> IRAN is poised to launch terror attacks in Britain if the West
>>>>>>> presses ahead with military strikes against its nuclear
>>>>>>> facilities, intelligence experts warned last night.
Good thing Bush has backflipped and suddenly decided he WILL
talk to Iran after all! B^)
All nations are entitled to defend themselves against military
aggression... but who are these 'intelligence experts'?
the ones who warned us "Iraq has WMD's which threaten us all?"
The West has little intel. in Iran, that has been it's weakness for
decades.
The only source quoted was "Richard Kemp, former adviser on
terrorism to Tony Blair" Yup, Mr "Iraq has WMD's and We ARE
FULL OF SHIT" himself! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA
" He said: “In my view Iran’s only realistic method of
retaliation is through Hezbollah."
Retaliation! So don't attack people if you don't want any! B^p
“Hezbollah undoubtedly have the capability to carry out
attacks against Western targets outside the region.
They have people here in the UK and they would aim to
carry out attacks if they saw us as being in any way
supportive of an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities.”
Ability to do something is not INTENT
“They are in wait-and-see mode at the moment
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and no-one knows exactly what they will do,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
but there is little doubt they will retaliate
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
if Iran is attacked.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Who bloody well WOULDN'T you Crazy Cracker WARMONGERS! 8^o
Here's the dangerous fucking rogue states:
"The warnings come amid mounting speculation
that either Israel or the United States may
attack Iran’s nuclear facilities"
We saw what a great fucking success they had in Iraq,
Oil went to $147 a barrel since the invasion of Iraq,
what will it get to after the Oil Warriors attack
Iran and the 'retaliation' begins.
$8 a litre?
>>>>> how dare Iran think they can defend themselves. they should just bow
>>>>> before Israel and America and let them bomb them. How dare they
>>>>> fight back.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed! I quite agree! SUCH a pain in the arse!
>>>>
>>> Yeah imagine that someone actually defending themselves against
>>> foreign invaders what nerve.
>>
>> If that were actually so, I would agree. However, Iran is supplying
>> Hamas with latest weaponry FOC,
Katusha rockets that leave a greasy stain on a road surface?
The 'latest weaponry'? B^p You have them confused with the USSA
arming Zionazis for War!
This is the Israeli bombing of Lebanon... plus a carpet of
500,000 cluster bomblets across southern Lebanon, which are still
killing children long after the 'ceasefire'. B^p
http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/maps/469.shtml
http://electronicintifada.net/bytopic/maps/467.shtml
The 'threat' to Israelis from rockets is less than that from
automobiles.
They still occupy Palestinian, Syrian and Jordanian territory
lebensraum and possess WMD's..
Who is the threat to who?
Compare the roll call of the dead.
And the constant expansion of Israels borders as it pushes
Palestinians into the sea.
>> it is almost certainly trying to make
>> enough Plutonium to make atom bombs, or at least use atomic weapons,
# last December, .. US intelligence agencies
# issued a National Intelligence Estimate asserting
# that in 2003 Iran halted work on nuclear weapons
# design
# - "Training to attack Iran"
# Asia Times 27/6/2008
# http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JF27Ak05.html
It's not up to Zionazi killers, ARMED WITH WMDs, to bomb
Iran in order to stop Iran's plans to develop peaceful
nuclear power, and hold onto it's oil till it is worth
trillions more! 8^o
"Nothing in this treaty shall be interpreted as affecting the
inalienable right of all parties to the treaty to develop,
research. production and use of nuclear energy for peaceful
purposes without discrimination"
- Article IV Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
>> it is a very dangerous loose cannon governed by what appears to be
>> fundamentalist religious madmen.
Sure, Israel is a worry, but what about Iran?
> Iran is the oppressor here,
Iran certainly is an oppressor, it oppresses local religious
minorities just like Israel oppresses local Arabs..herding them
into gulags and ghettos.
But it is not threatening to invade Israel of the USSA.
Israel is threatening to attack Iran! B^p
>> not the defender!
No, Israel is not the defender here, they have become the AGGRESSOR!
>> They are, in fact, highly dangerous and have to be stopped.
How, they are a nuclear armed rogue state!?