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Dec 24, 2009, 11:52:24 AM12/24/09
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PRESIDENT OBAMA SHOULD NOT FALL TO ACTS OF THE THUG PRESIDENT GEORGE
W. BUSH
By Aviroce

Now that we know that some of Bin Laden’s children are in Iran under
house arrest, would the Obama administration ask for them to be handed
to USA authorities?
Although the news about Bin Laden’s children is new today at least to
me, the United States of America must have known those facts as of
2001 when the thug president George W. Bush invaded Afghanistan,
conquered it with 1500 soldiers and turned around to invade and
conquer Iraq for oil, revenue and military strategy to colonize all
Arab and Muslims countries, an idea Woodrow Wilson denounced in 1919.
The issue that has been nagging my mind is this: Given the criminal
nature of the thug president George W. Bush and his unparalleled
savagery as a war criminal, why did he not follow the Bin Laden’s
children in Iran and got them and killed them? After all, the thug
president has had too much blood on his hands mostly of innocent
people for greed and only greed. Even more, the thug knew that most
of the men who destroyed the New York Twin Towers were from Saudi
Arabia and yet the thug never took any action against it. Was the
thug president George W. Bush afraid to anger Saudi Arabia or to
destabilize it?

A thug is always a thug. But the thug this time realized that Saudi
Arabia is a colony of the United States of America the reason why
Osama Bin Laden a member of the ruling class in Saudi Arabia decided
the binladination of September 11, 2001. Originally the thug’s father
deceived the Saudi government into granting him the mercenary action
against Iraq to drive Iraqi troops from Kuwait and kill the Iraqi
army. Meanwhile, although the United States of America enjoyed a
handsome profit from it mercenary war decided to take over Saudi
Arabia. The Saudis, although they should know Arabic culture and
Arabic experience—Those who use the lion as a hunting dog, The lion
will hunt them along with their hunt (Al-Mutanabbi)—failed to see what
was coming. Osama Bin Laden understood the situation, objected to USA
presence and rebelled against his own government. As a USA colony
Saudi Arabia was exploited heavily by the United States of America
militarily, economically, strategically and politically in addition to
the continuous support of Saudi Arabia to the USA dollar when the
United States of America dropped the gold support for the dollar and
floated the dollar supported by Saudi oil and American economy. Also
almost two million Americans are enjoying the highest salaries in
Saudi Arabia as is the case in the new colony of Iraq. So was the
criminal thug president George W. Bush trying to ignore the Bin
Laden’s children just not to anger the Saudis? Worse than that, when
the September 11, 2001 binladination took place and the thug knew most
of the hijackers were Saudis, the thug president let the Saudi
employees out of the country with “honor.” Only the New York Jews
refused Saudi donations!
The thug president had a plan. His plan was to colonize Iraq, the
heart of the Arab countries and humiliate all Arabs and Muslims. The
thug dug a hole for Arabs and Muslims only to fall in it—America went
into bankruptcy.

I hope president Obama who is more familiar with the thug’s actions
and the Jewish interests would only strike and leave. But my fear he
is going to strike and stay forcing the policies of the thug president
into play. Force has no morality. Ask John Paul Sartre.

Aviroce

Bin Laden Children Under House Arrest in Iran, Al-Awsat Says
By Glen Carey
Dec. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Iran has held six of Osama bin Laden’s children
and one of his wives under house arrest since the 2001 U.S. invasion
of Afghanistan, Asharq al-Awsat reported, citing Omar bin Laden, the
fourth son of the al-Qaeda leader.
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCj3uSckS9f4&pos=9

Dänk 1010011010

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:26:23 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 9:52 am, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PRESIDENT OBAMA SHOULD NOT FALL TO ACTS OF THE THUG PRESIDENT GEORGE
> W. BUSH
> By Aviroce
>
> Now that we know that some of Bin Laden’s children are in Iran under
> house arrest, would the Obama administration ask for them to be handed
> to USA authorities?

And exactly what crimes are Bin Laden's children guilty of that they
should be turned over to U.S. authorities for prosecution?

I seem to remember a basic American legal principle that says that
children cannot be punished for their parents' crimes.

charles q

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:15:39 PM12/24/09
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Bush was a hell of al ot better than obooboo is.Godd god all the guy
has done ina very short while is to do his best tro destroy the
country rather than help it I know all he is is a puppet but then
everyone knows this.Bush had no intentions of sending in thousands to
Afghanasatan as he knew it was not a tacticaly sound movve and was not
the way to try to acieve our initial objective which was to locate and
termonate taliban leaders and backers. it was working very good when
all we had were special forces and black ops handleing it all working
hand in hand with the mountain tribes but obooboo threw all of tha out
the window when he sent in thousands even though he said if elected he
would send in no more than perhaps 1 brigade?Thas a far cry from what
he ended up doing.We can no longer achieve our initial objective
because of him so we need to pull out now and cut our losses,save
billioons and lives of our people.besides Iran hovers on the horizin
which is something they had bteer start adressing very soon

Aviroce

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:40:13 PM12/24/09
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I am mocking the thug president Bush. This thug would kill innocent
people and declare a cause for that. Case in mind, Iraq. Moreover
this thug excused or absolved the Saudis and went after the innocent
people of Iraq killing about a million, injuring over two millions and
displacing about eight millions. Greed is the only cause.

Now, let us shift gears. Why are these children under house arrest in
Iran? What did they do to deserve such imprisonment for eight years?

Another corollary, why should the United States go after Bin Laden
when the latter was retaliating against the aggression of both the
United States of America and Israel?

Aviroce

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:52:25 PM12/24/09
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On its face value, it seems USA is withdrawing from Iraq. USA does
not intend to pull from Iraq. Look at the city embassy. Look at the
contracts signed by the Iraqis to maintain USA power and interests in
Iraq. To understand USA withdrawal from Iraq, you need to watch a
spider tying up its victim and storing it in the web.

> which is something they had bteer start adressing very soon- Hide quoted text -
>
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VFW

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Dec 24, 2009, 11:10:22 PM12/24/09
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In article
<710c5194-9403-424e...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
Aviroce <dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am mocking the thug president Bush. This thug would kill innocent
> people and declare a cause for that. Case in mind, Iraq. Moreover
> this thug excused or absolved the Saudis and went after the innocent
> people of Iraq killing about a million, injuring over two millions and
> displacing about eight millions. Greed is the only cause.

I have come to the conclusion that there are many "good" reasons to
keep the occupation/war going on.
Like'
Keeping the Nukes of Pakistan under a watchful eye.
Protecting Israel from known enemies.
Keeping the poppies growing/
Helping grow the Oil flowing.
Maybe even helping India deal with Kashmir.
and just generally pitting the Crusaders against the Muslims.
hey!
what's not to like?
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !

Aviroce

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Dec 25, 2009, 12:27:38 AM12/25/09
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On Dec 24, 8:10 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <710c5194-9403-424e-a680-cd5fed863...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am mocking the thug president Bush.  This thug would kill innocent
> > people and declare a cause for that.  Case in mind, Iraq.  Moreover
> > this thug excused or absolved the Saudis and went after the innocent
> > people of Iraq killing about a million, injuring over two millions and
> > displacing about eight millions.  Greed is the only cause.
>
> I have come to the conclusion that there are many "good" reasons to
> keep the occupation/war going on.
> Like'
> Keeping the Nukes of Pakistan under a watchful eye.
Why not keeping the Israeli nukes and chemical and biological weapons
under watchful eye? Israel is ready to use them. Israel has become a
disease to be controlled and eliminated.


> Protecting Israel from known enemies.

Israel has created its own enemies including Americans. It is a
pariah state. It has increased its systematic displacement of the
indigenous population of Palestine against UN resolutions especialy UN
resolution 242. Defeating Arabs and Muslims implies Zionist control
over them and eventually establishing the Kingdom of Zion where non-
Jews are slaves or beasts. Look what the Jews are doing in Palestine
and to the Palestinians. Israel is a disease to be eliminated.
Zionism is a virus against the human race.

Now Israel has no Arab enemies; all Arab enemies have become agents of
the United States of America. The only people opposing the presence
of Israel in its strategy to expand limitlessly are the people of
Palestine the indigenous population being persecuted, annihilated,
savaged by the Jews.

> Keeping the poppies growing/
Drug trade bypasses all borders. Even during the Hezbollah-Israel
War, the drug trade moved from Lebanon into Israel smoothly. Poppy is
a good cash crop for Afghanis.

> Helping grow the Oil flowing.

So you advocate USA hegemony over other peoples' resources. Apply
that to nuclear weapons. Why don't these countries have a share in
the nuclear weapons?

> Maybe even helping India deal with Kashmir.

USA is taking a back seat to India relation. At one point its seemed
India is the favorite. This flavor was lost. India is a burden. It
has to deal with its population explosion.

> and just generally pitting the Crusaders against the Muslims.

That is the Zionist strategy to achieve power and defraud the United
States of America. I believe Obama is aware of that. Obama is
declawing the Zionist Organization of North America. Read what Carter
said about the Jewish/Israeli Lobby in his apology to the Jews about
his book "Peace, no Apartheid."

> hey!
> what's not to like?

Zionist influence which has been the fraud against the American people

> --
> Hint; Enjoy the moment !

I enjoy my time. I write for pleasure and dissemination of
information. What about the American people, the Palestinians? They
need some of that pleasure.

Nusrat, Rowayton, Connecticut

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Dec 25, 2009, 4:32:17 AM12/25/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:27:38 -0800 (PST), Aviroce
<dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Dec 24, 8:10�pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
>> In article
>> <710c5194-9403-424e-a680-cd5fed863...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> �Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I am mocking the thug president Bush. �This thug would kill innocent
>> > people and declare a cause for that. �Case in mind, Iraq. �Moreover
>> > this thug excused or absolved the Saudis and went after the innocent
>> > people of Iraq killing about a million, injuring over two millions and
>> > displacing about eight millions. �Greed is the only cause.
>>
>> I have come to the conclusion that there are many "good" reasons to
>> keep the occupation/war going on.
>> Like'
>> Keeping the Nukes of Pakistan under a watchful eye.
>Why not keeping the Israeli nukes and chemical and biological weapons
>under watchful eye? Israel is ready to use them. Israel has become a
>disease to be controlled and eliminated.

Can you please name a single Arab or Muslim country where Arabs have
better longivity (74 yrs) and more freedom to say or write what they
like as they now enjoy in Israel.
I can just picture Israeli Arab going to Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Libya,
Saudi Arabia and being thrown in a dungen for criticising, Husni
Mubarak, or Al Asad Or King Hussain or Ghaddaffi, etc.
Of course to a Muslim animal freedom or democracy are meaningless
concepts but to a Westerner life is not worth living without it.

charles q

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Dec 25, 2009, 12:44:09 PM12/25/09
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Yes we will be there for some time but we should have pulled out a lot
more than we did which is not the fault of Bush because he hasn't been
in the picutre any more.Obooboo did exactly what he said he would not
do which was to send in thousands into Afghanasatn.He said perhaps 1
brigade.All he did was to toaly undermone out intial objective there
in the first place which was to hunt taliban(preferably the leadershio)
Obooboo ruined all the hard work that was doen by special forces and
the black ops as well.We were having great success working hand in
hand with the mountain tribes until obooboo did what he did.Now our
objective can no longer be attained as they are sacttered all over the
larger citie's making finding them virtualy immpossible now.The smart
move would be to pull out no and cut our losses,save bilions and save
American lives,besides we have Iran looming on the horizon and
eventually we will be there

Aviroce

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Dec 25, 2009, 4:44:55 PM12/25/09
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You may not be familiar with the culture of ill-educated black
Americans. As a high school teacher I would get a parent coming upset
and she would say "If ...And If...." and on such assumptions she would
build a mountain of complaints. The question is "If..." You come
back to me with the same "If..." I refuted your data on the basis
that it would have been manufactured as a Mathematician given the fact
that Israel under Zionism and Apartheid has been cutting
opportunities, resources and even discouraging childbirth for
Palestinian Israelis, not Israeli Arabs. I gave you a great document
on that and that of Sabri Jeryis' book, "Israel, a colonial settler."

The second point I want to comment on is the freedom of speech you
seem to boast of. Such freedom is only the main property of Jews not
Palestinian Israelis who are down on their luck and praying day and
night to get out of the Zionist nightmare. But I must accept the
notion that freedom of speech is forbidden in the Arab countries. And
I expect you to concede that such freedom violates the powers of the
colonies-- an Arab country so far is a colony or an agency of Western
influence and many times Western forces including Palestine, Iraq,
Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Algiers, and so on are either
destroying dissent or killing dissenters. Look at Yemen, it is doing
the bidding for USA. Look at Iraq, it is doing the bidding for USA.
Look at the Palestinians in the Jewish Israeli Concentration Camps;
they speak as birds in cages. The latter reminds me of Angelo's "I
know why the caged bird sings."

The only real freedom a man enjoys is that in the United States of
America the reason why Arab Americans and Muslim Americans do not
resort to force and violence. You can sue any bastard in USA and in
many instances the USA government may side with you. I know teachers
in high schools in the United States who would take time off work on
Friday, accepted by the boards of education, just to pray in the
mosque or at school. The school allows that with pleasure and
respect. Where in Europe or Israel can you do that? I must add such
freedom some times has a price.

On publishing several articles in the newspapers about Jewish
atrocities against the Palestinian people, I got calls to office by
the principal, "I received a call from JDL that you don't like to have
Jewish children in your classes." That was a lie. Jewish children
are well behaving and studious. I got parent conferences with Jewish
parents in groups not individuals with an assistant principal
attending pretending that I was not giving enough attention to their
children's homeworks. The underlying complaints are Palestinian-
Israeli-Jewish conflicts. As a collenge professor I did not receive
such problems but the chairperson might had some foreign policy
outlook that will try to keep me under supervision. One chairperson
complained to the dean that I published two papers one in my area of
expertise, Mathematics, and the second in politics. The politics
paper resulted in complaints and complaints until I said, "Take this
job and shove it." Now I am on my own and I don't give a damn to
anyone. I write and say what I think independently. This means I can
sustain myself economically well. Freedom of speech in America has
also a price; it can mean losing your job.

Before I quit, Lebanon killed atrociously members of the Syrian
Party. USA slaughtered atrociously members of the Baath Party. Now,
USA is trying to kill atrociously members of the Al-Qaeda Party. The
West is all out to destroy any freedom of religion for Muslims and
Arabs. Israel is starving Hamas in Gaza. Bastards and bastards are
all around destroying the freedoms of Palestinians, Arabs and
Muslims.


On Dec 25, 1:32 am, "Nusrat, Rowayton, Connecticut"

> concepts but to a Westerner life is not worth living without it.- Hide quoted text -

Aviroce

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In a letter to president Obama, I urged him to withdraw USA troops
after establishing a Strike Force supported by Intelligence on the
ground anywhere and everywhere in the world. I ureged him to strike
one-for-one. But the president has an elite of advisors and he thinks
differently. But the elements of withdrawal are still there including
the strike forces. Along with that comes the sacrifices of war. This
war may lead to two or three other wars, Pakistan, India, and Iran.
We have to tread carefully and I am not for it.

Tsun Tzu advises that a nation should not conduct a war of revenge as
lives if individuals and state may be on the line. Bush sent us to
Hell. Hopefully Obama will hit and run.

> eventually we will be there- Hide quoted text -

Nusrat, Rowayton, Connecticut

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Dec 26, 2009, 6:23:20 AM12/26/09
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:44:55 -0800 (PST), Aviroce
<dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:

As best as I can make out what this Arab baboon is saying is that
Israel is putting on a show for the world media which shows Israeli
Arabs in good light.
Not many in the West think of Arabs as part of Human race. I hope
Israeli authorities take a lesson from rest of us and stop wasting
their hard earned money on these critters.

Avarice

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On Dec 26 2009, 3:23 am, "Nusrat, Rowayton, Connecticut"

<rizvi...@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:44:55 -0800 (PST), Aviroce
>
> >on that and that of Sabri Jeryis' book, "Israel, a colonial settler."- Hide quoted text -

>
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These critters have you in and they are always onto you as well as the
American people. Zionism is an apartheid system based on personal
greed.

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