The Persian guy in the portraits
michelle
Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
Who is this guy?
Michelle
Hallaj
wrote:
>Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
>an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
>of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
>and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
Because you visit the wrong Iranan houshold. If you visit my home you
will see thet what you mention is not common.
Hallaj (Doesn't know who the guy is, btw)
DariushA
>
> Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
> an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
> of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
> and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
Hmmmm ... that must be the Father of All Aakhoonds! :)
Now seriously, I have no idea which painting you
refer to but I have at times been shocked by seeing
turbans on heads of unlikely persons in Iranian miniature
paintings!
Fo instance there are paintings of Alexander of Macedonia
with _turban_ on his head! :):)
I do not believe the painters were that uninformed.
Then why? Could it be that they wanted to legitimize
their act of sin to portrait someone? (Painting is
forbidden by Islam).
Most of those ceramic decorative motifs you see on
Iranian mosque buildings are actually writings and
not drawings! In fact the Iranian architects used
the stylization trick to come up with unobjectable
decorations on their buildings. They built all
their motifs on names like Allaah, Ali, Mohammad
and so on.
I hope someone can clear this matter of 'A Turban
for You, a Turban for Me, a Turban for everyone'!:)
>
> Michelle
DariushA.
MindSpring User
Actually, it is not the same guy - its just a common motif of classical
persian miniatures. All men wore turbans. It was a sign of wealth - cloth
being expensive, the more cloth you wore, the more fancy you were.
IF you look carefully, there is usually a nubile young wench with a bottle
of wine nearby, and they're reading poetry.
F Ashkey
>From: "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
>Date: 1/30/99 3:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <01be4c8f$047eb680$ca0edfd1@x>
>
>
>Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
>an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
>of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
>and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
>Who is this guy?
>
>
>
>
>
What you see may be a famous portrait
painting. This type of single person portrait
painting became popular durning the 17th
century with works of an Iranian artist named
Reza Abassi and his school and continued
into the 19th century.
Can you describe what the man is doing and
whether he is sitting alone?
Are there many trees and flowers, birds,
animals etc in the picture near where
the man is sitting and in the background?
BTW. Turbans were worn and can be also
seen in the European paintings often
representing the merchant class.
Ismee Majhool
fas...@aol.com (F Ashkey) wrote:
> >Subject: The Persian guy in the portraits
> >From: "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
> >Date: 1/30/99 3:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <01be4c8f$047eb680$ca0edfd1@x>
> >
> >
> >Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
> >an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
> >of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
> >and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
> >Who is this guy?
It is the Ayatollah Khomeini as a young man.
> >
> >Michelle
> >
> >
> >
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michelle
Hallaj <hall...@dwp.net> wrote in article
<36b87861...@news1.telia.com>...
> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:32:41 GMT, "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
> >an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
> >of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
> >and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
>
> Because you visit the wrong Iranan houshold. If you visit my home you
> will see thet what you mention is not common.
This is because you need to go find yourself a wife who will
put some decorations on the wall:)))) It will make the place
more cheerful:)
Michelle
michelle
DariushA <dari...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<36B380...@ix.netcom.com>...
> michelle wrote:
> >
> > Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
> > an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
> > of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
> > and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
> > Who is this guy?
>
> Hmmmm ... that must be the Father of All Aakhoonds! :)
>
> Now seriously, I have no idea which painting you
> refer to but I have at times been shocked by seeing
> turbans on heads of unlikely persons in Iranian miniature
> paintings!
>
> Fo instance there are paintings of Alexander of Macedonia
> with _turban_ on his head! :):)
>
> I do not believe the painters were that uninformed.
> Then why? Could it be that they wanted to legitimize
> their act of sin to portrait someone? (Painting is
> forbidden by Islam).
>
> Most of those ceramic decorative motifs you see on
> Iranian mosque buildings are actually writings and
> not drawings! In fact the Iranian architects used
> the stylization trick to come up with unobjectable
> decorations on their buildings. They built all
> their motifs on names like Allaah, Ali, Mohammad
> and so on.
>
I forget what program it was,but it showed a famous mosque
or temple that from afar looked like decorations,but up close
was the entire Koran...I wish I could remember what building that was...
Michelle
La6red9nec
>From: "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
>Date: 2/1/99 8:11 PM EST
>Message-id: <01be4e49$29865080$d30fdfd1@x>
>
>
>
>Hallaj <hall...@dwp.net> wrote in article
><36b87861...@news1.telia.com>...
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 20:32:41 GMT, "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
>>
>> >Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
>> >an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
>> >of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
>> >and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
>>
>> will see thet what you mention is not common.
>
>This is because you need to go find yourself a wife who will
>put some decorations on the wall:)))) It will make the place
>more cheerful:)
>
>Michelle
>
>
Oh glad I caught you here michelle.
On the hot and cold foods: think of it this
way, cold food is like you having lesbian sex(no gadgets).
Hot food is like you having hetero sex. Hope this enlightens you and opens new
doors for you.
Sorry to butt in like this. Do carry on please.
michelle
F Ashkey <fas...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990131015126...@ng-fw1.aol.com>...
> >Subject: The Persian guy in the portraits
> >From: "michelle" <mich...@neto.com>
> >Date: 1/30/99 3:32 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <01be4c8f$047eb680$ca0edfd1@x>
> >
> >
> >Why is it whenever I go into an Iranian resturant or
> >an Iranian household,there's almost always a painting
> >of an ancient Persian guy sitting on a carpet,outdoors
> >and he's wearing a hat that looks something like a turban?
> >Who is this guy?
> >
> >Michelle
> >
> >
> >
> >
> What you see may be a famous portrait
> painting. This type of single person portrait
> painting became popular durning the 17th
> century with works of an Iranian artist named
> Reza Abassi and his school and continued
> into the 19th century.
> Can you describe what the man is doing and
> whether he is sitting alone?
Yes,he is sitting alone,reading what looks like poetry...he's
sitting crosslegged with one knee in the air.There's a single tree
behind him and a carafe and empty cup in front of him.The strange
thing is that what makes this different from other miniature paintings
that I have seen,is that this guy doesn't have the "oriental" look.
He looks like a mixture of European and Iranian,has a small beard,
graying hair (maybe he's 40) and that turban like hat on his head.
There's writing on it too in farsi it says something like "I pray at
the alter of wine".I can't read the name of the painter .I've seen
several different versions of this same guy in different places...
Michelle