Googoosh's new album
Abolfazl Ahmadi
tried to be offensive to the Islamic Republic in a subtle way, I found the
lyrics flat and just mourning (zekr-e mosibat). It is amazing that someone
can live for two decades in that country and not get why a nation endures so
much pain and sums it all up in total despair. It also shows what kind of
bravery we are dealing with from some who stayed behind which resembles more
like what Kafka called the bravery of a cockroach that cannot be chased out
of the kitchen.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Abolfazl Ahmadi wrote:
> Your language reveals the dept of your intellect. The question was not
> about Islam but the artistic merit of the esteemed album and the nation
> becoming a debtor because some people stayed behind. Nevertheless I will
> tell you what I think of that anti-arab, anti-islam nationalism that I
> cannot help to smell. That nationalism was first fueled by republicanism
> and aspirations of a nation seeking justice and democracy and ended up as
> nothing but despotism and chauvinism with modern colors and most offensive
> to all other ethnic minorities. That nationalism, with all due respects,
> has already been sent to the dustbin of history. What is the use of
> deceiving one's self. It is ironic that with all the boasts of modernism
> and democracy on the part of secular intelligentsia, it was a clergyman that
> founded the first republic in our country. No matter how crooked this
> republic may be you cannot take this honor from the nation. A child does
> not start running before learning to crawl and taking the first steps. Don
> 't forget who aborted our first exercises in democracy and don't try to hide
> behind modernistic rhetoric. That clergyman was much more modern than those
> who are waiting to mourn the defeat of the nation in taking this gigantic
> historical step.
>
> Yek Irani <YekI...@ee.net> wrote in message news:HwNs5.550$Y2.8046@news...
> > Better news for this aboli is that he doesn't know how many millions of
> > Iranians from very religious families have become enemies of Islam.
> >
> > be omide naboodeye eslAm
> >
> > Yek Irani
> >
> > <sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:39B34C88...@earthlink.net...
Moron,
it seems so easy for you to turn tables around and act like the poor little
puppy who's been beaten wihtout a cause or reason. Put down the prozac so your
memory can function again, and read back your post to yourself so maybe you can
understand the disrespect you threw at Googoosh and Zarathushtra when you had no
cause to.
Yek Irani
news:39B710DA...@earthlink.net...
>
>
> Abolfazl Ahmadi wrote:
>
> > Your language reveals the dept of your intellect. The question was not
> > about Islam but the artistic merit of the esteemed album and the nation
> > becoming a debtor because some people stayed behind. Nevertheless I
will
> > tell you what I think of that anti-arab, anti-islam nationalism that I
> > cannot help to smell. That nationalism was first fueled by
republicanism
> > and aspirations of a nation seeking justice and democracy and ended up
as
> > nothing but despotism and chauvinism with modern colors and most
offensive
> > to all other ethnic minorities. That nationalism, with all due
respects,
> > has already been sent to the dustbin of history. What is the use of
> > deceiving one's self. It is ironic that with all the boasts of
modernism
> > and democracy on the part of secular intelligentsia, it was a clergyman
that
> > founded the first republic in our country. No matter how crooked this
> > republic may be you cannot take this honor from the nation. A child
does
Abodli joon, the people used the celrgy. The gave them a rope hoping that
the clergy are men of cloth and won't abuse this rope. But the clergy DID
abuse the rope and at the end they WILL be hung on it. This REPUBLIC you
talk about is NOT REPUBLIC. What the hell kind of a republic is it when the
absolute Ruler is NOT elected. Get real. This is monaarchy of the Mullahs.
Tha Shah is now the Leader and the prime minister is called President. It is
obvious that you hope Persian Nationalism and pride to be dead. I am betting
my dozAree that you are an Arab (not that there is anything wrong with that)
So it is understandable how you would feel. But I assure you the vast
majority of Iranians DO NOT feel like you when it comes to wishing Iranian
Nationalism death.
be omide nAboodeeye eslAm
Yek Irani
Abolfazl Ahmadi
to sell it using zartosht? What are you talking about? Is this the kind of
democracy you are dreaming for the world???? Or your petty politics has
blinded you to the point of buying any crap as long as it is offensive to
IRI????
<sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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DariushA
>
> Who are you? So nobody can say the lyrics on the album is flat and they try
> to sell it using zartosht? What are you talking about? Is this the kind of
> democracy you are dreaming for the world???? Or your petty politics has
> blinded you to the point of buying any crap as long as it is offensive to
> IRI????
Well, there has been an "offense": 21 years of
solitude for a mere Iranian singer.
It depends on how good you are at 'figuring' :)
'Dooltcheh'
DariushA.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Abolfazl Ahmadi wrote:
> Who are you? So nobody can say the lyrics on the album is flat and they try
> to sell it using zartosht? What are you talking about? Is this the kind of
> democracy you are dreaming for the world???? Or your petty politics has
> blinded you to the point of buying any crap as long as it is offensive to
> IRI????
>
my petty politics? Why don't you talk of your petty politics that kill hundreds
of thousands of people whi simply disagree. If you listened to the song, it
merely talks about the freedom to sing in a land where Zartosht sand 37oo eyars
ago, it is obviously an insecure, fanatic mind that could take offense at such a
simple message. It's like everything else in society, if you don't like it,
don't buy it. I hate rap but that doesn't mean I'm going to start a campaign of
propaganda or elimination of people hwo suscribe to their ideas!
Abolfazl Ahmadi
dead. I cannot help it if you cannot see the difference between before 22
Bahman and after either. What I witnessed in Iran was the emergence of a
new kind of nationalism that not only enabled us to defend ourselves against
Iraq and all the civilised world that supported it but at the same time
inspired so many of our young people to sacrifice their lives for it. Our
nation has paid dearly for defying the super power. After all a thriving
nationalism cannot stand by while the nation is trampled by its enemies...
Yek Irani <YekI...@ee.net> wrote in message news:%NNt5.51$23.1028@news...
> <sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:39B710DA...@earthlink.net...
Yek Irani
>
>I do not wish persian nationalism's death. That Pahlavi version of it is
dead. I cannot help it if
The Pahlavis weren't nationalists. No true nationalist would let a Mullah
choose the name of his "valee'ahd". Visit Farahpahlavi.org and you will see
she is trying to tell us how she is related to clergy and Imam Hossein. the
nationalism that you see in Iran today is a result of 22 years of IRI
attempt at killing all things Persian. Because of that and abuse in the name
of Islam more Iranians today resent and abhore all things Arab than at any
other time in recent history.
>you cannot see the difference between before 22 Bahman and after either.
What I witnessed in
before that date people thought of Islam as religion of god. After it people
came to realize Islam is a Pan Arabist chain of slavery around their neck
and a tool abused by Mullahs.
>Iran was the emergence of a new kind of nationalism that not only enabled
us to defend >ourselves against Iraq and all the civilised world that
supported it but at the same time inspired >so many of our young people to
sacrifice their lives for it. Our nation has paid dearly for >defying the
super power. After all a thriving nationalism cannot stand by while the
nation is >trampled by its enemies...
The ONLY enemy Iran has today are the clergy who are foreigners taking 60
million pople hostage.
be omide nAboodeeye IRI
Yek Irani
CyrusTheGreat
You are obsessed with Arabs .
Was Persia trouble free prior to the Arabs take over of Persia ?
Blame it on the Rio
Yek Irani
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> Yek Djaan;
> You are obsessed with Arabs .
> Was Persia trouble free prior to the Arabs take over of Persia ?
Probably not but we certainly weren't stoning women and cutting hands. IMHO
if one can not recognize the vrius that has taken over the body of Iran then
there is no cure for the sick lady. I have no problem with ARabs and have
many good Arab friends. My problem is with the Tokhme Arab inside us. That
is the virus that needs to be liminated.
> Blame it on the Rio
>
No CTG jAN, Blam eit on years of too saree khordan be daste AKhoond. I
assure you Iran is as good a candidate for fighting Islam as Andeles was
before it became Spain.
blame it on eslaaaaaaaaam
Yek Irani
sirkn...@earthlink.net
CyrusTheGreat wrote:
I wish everyone else was as obsessed with Arabs as he, then maybe you
could all see the light. Persia did ahve troubles of all kinds,
including a rigid class system and other problems but at least we were a
superpower, one of the world's greatest cultures. We were once proud.
Arabs and their fellow Turk barbarians took that away, by burning our
books, our sceince and knowledge, jsut so that following generations
would become illiterate and forced to read arabic and the Koran (Qutaiba
Ibn Muslim's policy). It's about time we as a people start understanding
that we are still a nation under siieg.
I don't understand how we are all gung ho about ousting the British and
Soviets as well as Aermican political influence but when it comes to
Arabs, it's a sensitive issue for so many of you guys.Why can't the be
touched, same as other foreigners who have tried to fuck our land and
people over?
Yek Irani
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Good question Sirk jAn,
On top of it we have this so called intelectual iranian people trying hard
to destroy all remaining remnants of Persian Heritage.
pAyande bAd farhang pArsian
Yek Irani