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Arash

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May 27, 2003, 9:55:51 PM5/27/03
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May 27, 2003


Reza Pahlavi is shooting himself in the foot


By Kave Pourmand
kave_p...@yahoo.com

Reza Pahlavi has shown his true face (finally!) and he should be praised for
that.

One thing is clear and that is the more he associates himself with neo-cons
(right-wing nuts) the more he is isolated and considered a puppet by
Iranians. It is funny that only one American Israeli Political Affairs
Committee (www.aipac.org) top executive has suggested that the support of
the Pahlavi by AIPAC should be "discrete".

Once Iranian people see the picture of Pahlavi with Daniel Pipes
(www.danielpipes.org/bios), Michael Ledeen
(www.jewishworldreview.com/michael/ledeen.html) and Rob Sobhani
(www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/53_folder/53_articles/53_destiny.htm
l), then comes the end of the road for Pahlavi.

I would say let Pahlavi say whatever he wants to say and do whatever he
wants to do and at the end of the day he will end up like Rajavi in the eyes
of Iranian people. Rajavi was not such a hated figure among Iranian people
before he sided with Saddam. Reza Pahlavi is too dumb to learn from Rajavi's
mistakes and that is the irony.

The problem with Pahlavi and those of AEI (www.aei.org) and others who
promote him is that they believe in their own misinformation and deceptions
("bait and switch") and somehow think that Iranian people will run into
Iranian cities and demand return of Pahlavi once Islamic Regime has shown a
bit of vulnerability and that is a big miscalculation, much like the
situation in Iraq today.

It is a drastic task to take over a country, something that the geniuses in
Pentagon did not anticipate (after working on this "doctrine" for 12
years!). There is a lot of work that needs to be done to get basic needs of
the Iraqi people since the overthrow of Saddam. It will take years to
"stabilize" the situation in Iraq and at the end of the day there might not
be enough resources (not to mention enthusiasm in US Congress, public
opinion) left to start "building another nation."

I would also say let Sen. Brownbag (or is it brownbag or dirtbag) to
allocate the $50 million to these bozos. What are they going to do with the
money? There is already a TV station broadcasting Pahlavi's message in Iran.
Zia (www.nitv.tv/main.htm) will probably spend the $50 million to trade-in
his Jaguar for a Mercedes. These imbeciles will spend the rest of the money
(purchasing personal items) and that will be a great embarrassment and
source of a new controversy.

I don't think Pahlavi has any support among Iranian people and I am not
counting those who copy and paste articles from Jerusalem Post
(www.jpost.com) in this forum. True Iranian people will say no to a puppet
like Pahlavi.

http://www.payvand.com/news/03/may/1139.html


Taktaaz

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May 27, 2003, 10:28:49 PM5/27/03
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"Arash":
The only thing I can see is that he is trying very hard to contact with
influential people around the world to get rid of IRI.

I have no problem with him at all for doing it. I do not see any other so
called Iranian leaders doing it.
All I see is jealousy and bad mouthing by other political numb nuts.

Joubin

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May 28, 2003, 12:52:02 AM5/28/03
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Thanks for the post Arash.

I'd venture a guess that the "Empress of the arts" [1] is quite found of
'installation art' [2].

What do you think, Arash jaan?


-- notes --

[1] http://www.payvand.com/news/03/may/1134.html

[2] http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=installation+art


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Arash

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May 28, 2003, 1:46:33 AM5/28/03
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"Joubin"

> I'd venture a guess that the "Empress of the arts" [1] is quite found of
> 'installation art' [2].
> What do you think, Arash jaan?

Farah Pahlavi has done a lot for the expansion & advancement of art in Iran.


Joubin

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May 28, 2003, 12:12:01 PM5/28/03
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It was, in retrospect, a misconstructed dig. (I am neutral towards Mrs. F.
Pahlavi.)

The amended version would read that her son has become quite interested in
the installation arts.

[BTW: I am all for the advancement of arts in Iran. (And Insh'ALLAH, these
advancements will draw upon advancements in an Iranian theoretical
framework, and not just (~bankrupt) Western European ones.)]


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Pacifist

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May 28, 2003, 1:22:06 PM5/28/03
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Farah's Art Festival (Jashn-e Honar) in Shiraz was offensive to the local
people, incomprehensible to the Iranians at large and a huge waste of money
when it came to promoting the Arts in Iran.

It was another manifestation of how Westoxified and out of touch the Pahlavi
court had become.

Best,

P

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MrMojoMan

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May 28, 2003, 9:11:12 PM5/28/03
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Partially true. However, average Iranian family does not go to theaters to
watch Shemr behead Hossein either. This shows how Araboxified IR mullAhs
are.

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Pacifist

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May 29, 2003, 4:59:03 AM5/29/03
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Wrong analogy. Ta' zieh is a form of Iranian folk performing art that has
been voluntarily enacted by the people for many centuries. It was
recognised as such even in the previous regime's time.
It is not a bad thing if some resources are spent on promoting and
preserving it. (Similar resources are expended towards recitals of the
Shahnameh.)

The kind of outlandish experimental music and theatre that Farah seemed to
cherish, are considered avant garde and "off the page" even in the West.
Entirely irrelevant even to the educated classes, let alone the masses.

Moreover, they were never explained at all to the masses. Personally, I
would have liked to hear what it all meant, but no... it was simply a party
for the empress to impress her foreign friends.
The last thing it was meant to do was to promote the Arts in Iran.

P


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Ariamehr

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May 29, 2003, 9:29:02 AM5/29/03
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Who knows arts and drama better than an Islamist fundamentalist ? !

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MrMojoMan

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May 29, 2003, 10:21:37 AM5/29/03
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There is no wrong and right here. You are saying that Shiraz International
festival of Arts was "Shiraz was offensive to the local people,

incomprehensible to the Iranians at large and a huge waste of money when it
came to promoting the Arts in Iran." I disagree. There were many valuable
art creations that came out of those festivals, one being Shahr-e qesseh.
There were many other premiers in music, and painting, etc.

The reasons you dismiss the festival are:

1) You dismiss anything that has remotely to do with the Pahlavi regime. And
that is okay. Many do the same with mullAhs.

2) You do not care about this art form, but you care about a couple of sheep
and mules running around the stage in NYC while a couple bearded Arabs look
a likes stick each other with a bent sword. That is okay too :-)

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Pacifist

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May 29, 2003, 11:00:10 AM5/29/03
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I don't want this to become a slanging match (the usual case with SCI).
But, Shahr-e Ghesseh was a one off and did not come about because of Jashn-e
Honar Shiraz festival. It was another product of the "kannon-e parvaresh-e
fekri etc."

In fact the Iranian participation in the Shiraz festival was minimal. It
was mostly given to really abstract European art forms (Stockhausen's music)
or bizarre foreign stuff like Katakali dancing from Southern India. (As you
see I was paying attention!!!)

If somebody pays for the stuff from their own pocket is fine. It would
probably be Ok in an advanced Western nation where everything else is
catered for too. But Iran? Come on!!

P


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Blast from the Past

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May 28, 2003, 8:04:41 AM5/28/03
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"Arash" <A7...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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which is much more than can be said about what reza pahlavi
is doing for the advancement of constitutional monarchy
in iran. he seems to be getting too deeply embroiled in the
current anti-iran moves by the pro-israel lobbies in us. can
any patriotic iranian imagine that a person claiming the same
stature as cyrus and darius, now let himself be defined in the
context of the arab-israel conflict in the mideast and be used
by their thuggish representatives in washington? where does
reza pahlavi thinks he is heading? certainly not toward iran.

'arash' thanks for the excellent articles you are sending to this
group. i like your headings too!

blast

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MrMojoMan

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May 29, 2003, 9:54:17 PM5/29/03
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I don't want a slanging (?) match either. So we agree to disagree on our
taste or opinion on Art. One thing you need to keep in mind though, it was
called"

Shiraz INTERNATIONAL Festival of Arts

Hence the foreign stuff.

Cheers,

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Asghar Akbari

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May 30, 2003, 9:42:08 PM5/30/03
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I did not care for stuff at all and that was the problem with it. Both the
Shah's family and the Arab mullahs treated Iran like their family possession
and the Iranians did not have anything to say about it.

--
Asghar Akbari " Quaecomque Sunt Vera"

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