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Satish Kumar

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:11:22 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 10:34 am, Muhammad Javed Iqbal <kaleemjavediq...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Iqbal's prophesies About Financial Crunch and Afghanistan


Mian Mu-ham-mad Javed Ekball, did you know that when it comes to
sexual perversion, adultery and crimes, the "Allamah" didn't have to
be a prophet - he lived his perversion in real time. He engaged in
polygamy, but that wasn't enough. He engaged with sexual acts even
outside his marriages. In fact, he even murdered a prostitute at Hira
Mandi to live through his perverted fantasies.


Had the "Allamah" been alive, he would have had a gala time not just
at the Orangi and Hira Mandi brothels but even with the widows and the
children of "martyrs" who are proliferating by the day in Pakistan.


>
> Allamah (great scholar) Muhammad Iqbal was born on 9 November 1877
> and took his last breath on April 30, 1938. He thus lived only in the
> first half of 20th centruy, but his poetry and sermons are as relevant
> today as these were 70~80 years ago. He was a philosopher, a poet par
> excellence, a scholar of Quran, perhaps the most noted of his age,
> and he studied this subject so devotedly that he became a visionary, a
> continuity of Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah, the famous saint of 18th
> century. Shah Wali Ullah introduced the social system of the nations
> and identified classes within society almost 100 years before Karl
> Marx. Iqbal studied Quran and declared that the purpose of Shariat,
> (Islamic Holy Law) is to release man from subjugation of man. He said:
>
> ' kas na gardad dar jahan muhtaje kas
> Nukta sharaa mubeen ein ast o bas '
>
> That is the main object of descent of Shariat that no human
> remains dependent on other for his livelihood. Islam prescribes a
> classless society and strictly prohibits interest, so much so that
> Allah SWT has declared war on those elements who charge interest to
> His creation.
>
> Iqbal says that the banks have deprived the humanity from
> the light it received as a creation of Almighty Allah.
>
> " Ein bunook ein fikre chaalake yahood
> Noore Haq az seena-e aadam
> rabood
>
> That is " These banks have made life so miserable for
> the common man that he has lost the light inherited as a creation of
> Almighty Allah”. Iqbal took the subject so seriously that he studied
> modern economics as well and wrote a book " Ilmul Iqtesad " ( The
> science of economics) on it in 1908.Since his prophesies were to come
> true, like the 5 prophesies I showed in a previous write up, the
> trouble and turmoil brought by financial meltdown was foreseen by
> Iqbal and an alternative course of action provided.
>
> Similarly Iqbal attached great importance to
> Afghanistan. When Afghan King came to the sub-continent on a visit,
> Iqbal offered all the money he saved to him for strengthening his
> army. He even went to Afghanistan along with a religious leader, Syed
> Suleman Nadvi and offered useful advices to the king. He was aware of
> the importance of Afghanistan in the future
>
> “ If Asia was a body of water and clay,
> The Afghan nation would be the heart
> in that body,
> Its prosperity brings the prosperity
> of Asia,
> Its decay brings the decay of Asia. “
> Iqbal knew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in
> the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an
> army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present day
> Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a
> pity that the country of Iqbal’s dream has chosen to stab the army of
> Islam in the back.
>
> Muhammad Javed Iqbal.
>
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> the humanity: http:\\harbingerblog.wordpress.com

Satish Kumar

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:07:14 PM11/15/09
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On Nov 8, 11:11 am, Satish Kumar <sk_c...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:34 am,MuhammadJavedIqbal<kaleemjavediq...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Iqbal'sprophesies About Financial Crunch and Afghanistan

>
> Mian Mu-ham-mad Javed Ekball, did you know that when it comes to
> sexual perversion, adultery and crimes, the "Allamah" didn't have to
> be a prophet - he lived his perversion in real time. He engaged in
> polygamy, but that wasn't enough. He engaged with sexual acts even
> outside his marriages. In fact, he even murdered a prostitute at Hira
> Mandi to live through his perverted fantasies.
>
> Had the "Allamah" been alive, he would have had a gala time not just
> at the Orangi and Hira Mandi brothels but even with the widows and the
> children of "martyrs" who are proliferating by the day in Pakistan.
>


Mian Muhammad Javed Ekbal, I am surprised you didn't write anything of
the prostitute that Sir Muhammad Iqbal murdered at Hira Mandi. Here's
an account of the man's perverted sex life:


Translation of - Allama Iqbal-Ek Mehbooba, teen beewiaN, chaar shadiaN
- by Dr. Khalid Sohail


Allama Iqbal and His Women
Translation By Rafi Aamer


Excerpt:


While living with three wives, Iqbal continued his correspondence with
Atiya Faizi. Iqbal's love life was so typical of the life of an
Eastern poet; he couldn't marry the woman he loved and he couldn't
love the women he married.


Iqbal never moved to Europe but he maintained contacts with European
ladies. They used to come over to India and meet Iqbal and Iqbal
showed equal enthusiasm meeting them. After the death of Sardar Begum,
instead of hiring an Indian woman, Iqbal hired a German governess for
Javed and Muneera who used to call her aunt Doris. It seems that Doris
was serving dual purpose of looking after the kids and assuaging
Iqbal's nostalgia about Europe.


As a psycho-therapist, Iqbal's love life came to me as a surprise. I
am surprised to note that The Poet of the East, who had a solution for
every problem afflicting his nation, remained clueless about the
solutions of his own romantic and marital problems. I find it hard to
believe that he got separated from his first wife and their kids after
sixteen years of marriage, that he divorced his second wife based only
on anonymous letters, that he realized that he was deceived only after
he had consummated his marriage with his third wife, and more
surprisingly, that he sought an edict from a cleric and then ignored
the edict before marrying Sardar Begum a second time.


I guess Iqbal must have concluded from these experiences that it was
easier for him to have a successful creative life than a successful
marital life. Words came easy to Iqbal but the answers to the tough
questions of his romantic dilemmas did not. Maybe that is why he
wrote,


Iqbal baRa updeshak hai, mun baton main moh laita hai.
Guftaar ka yeh ghazi to bana, kirdaar ka ghazi ban naa saka.
>
> > Allamah (great scholar)MuhammadIqbalwas born on 9 November 1877


> > and took his last breath on April 30, 1938. He thus lived only in the
> > first half of 20th centruy, but his poetry and sermons are as relevant
> > today as these were 70~80 years ago. He was a philosopher, a poet par
> > excellence, a scholar of Quran, perhaps the most noted of his age,
> > and he studied this subject so devotedly that he became a visionary, a
> > continuity of Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah, the famous saint of 18th
> > century. Shah Wali Ullah introduced the social system of the nations
> > and identified classes within society almost 100 years before Karl

> > Marx.Iqbalstudied Quran and declared that the purpose of Shariat,


> > (Islamic Holy Law) is to release man from subjugation of man. He said:
>
> > ' kas na gardad dar jahan muhtaje kas
> > Nukta sharaa mubeen ein ast o bas '
>
> > That is the main object of descent of Shariat that no human
> > remains dependent on other for his livelihood. Islam prescribes a
> > classless society and strictly prohibits interest, so much so that
> > Allah SWT has declared war on those elements who charge interest to
> > His creation.
>

> > Iqbalsays that the banks have deprived the humanity from


> > the light it received as a creation of Almighty Allah.
>
> > " Ein bunook ein fikre chaalake yahood
> > Noore Haq az seena-e aadam
> > rabood
>
> > That is " These banks have made life so miserable for
> > the common man that he has lost the light inherited as a creation of

> > Almighty Allah”.Iqbaltook the subject so seriously that he studied


> > modern economics as well and wrote a book " Ilmul Iqtesad " ( The
> > science of economics) on it in 1908.Since his prophesies were to come
> > true, like the 5 prophesies I showed in a previous write up, the
> > trouble and turmoil brought by financial meltdown was foreseen by

> >Iqbaland an alternative course of action provided.
>
> > SimilarlyIqbalattached great importance to


> > Afghanistan. When Afghan King came to the sub-continent on a visit,

> >Iqbaloffered all the money he saved to him for strengthening his


> > army. He even went to Afghanistan along with a religious leader, Syed
> > Suleman Nadvi and offered useful advices to the king. He was aware of
> > the importance of Afghanistan in the future
>
> > “ If Asia was a body of water and clay,
> > The Afghan nation would be the heart
> > in that body,
> > Its prosperity brings the prosperity
> > of Asia,
> > Its decay brings the decay of Asia. “

> > Iqbalknew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in


> > the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an
> > army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present day
> > Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a

> > pity that the country ofIqbal’sdream has chosen to stab the army of

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