In the name of God the Glorified, the Holy!
It would seem that hard financial times have hit Mr Duran and so in
order to recuperate the massive losses he sustained in 1999 he has
jumped on the ao cult bandwagon and is attempting to recuperate his
losses that way by enlisting himself through this vicious cult and
thereby make whatever ends he is not otherwise successful in joining
meet. I wonder if $10,000.00 (or whatever he is being paid for his
services rendered) is really worth the effort of such songs and dances
as Duran is now performing for us. People who have no integrity (or a
shred of sanity in Ali Duran's case) will sell themselves for a buck.
One sees it everyday, it is to be expected in these perverse times we
live in, and TRB is full of such people, i.e. the assorted motley crew
of baha'i cult covenant police roaming the NG.
Of course what is to be expected of such an organization that hires
hitmen to kill the Dan Jordans, and then first rumour mongers that
Muslim assassins did it and then changes its tune and shamelessly
states that it was a homosexual liason gone wrong. What do you call an
organization which incites mentally unstable individuals to murder the
Hedi Ma'anis of the world (a man who was known for his criticisms of
the cultism of the ao). The track record of this cult is ten miles
long and goes all the way back to the Baghdad days when two Letters of
the Living and several followers of the Fruit of Eternity where
viciously murdered by the followers of the lying claimant (moda'i-ye
kazzaab): Husayn Ali Nuri. It goes back to Edirne when the lying
claimant (moda'i-ye kazzaab) decietfully claimed that he was poisoned
by agents of His Holiness the Second Unity, the Morning of Eternity,
when nothing of the sort ever occured. It goes back to Akka, Palestine
when the ignorant common ruffian (jaahil) barber of the lying
claimant, Muhammad Salmani, took a shovel to the head of and hence
murdered the Witness and innocent defender of the Cause of Light,
Siyyid Muhammad Isfahani, for no reason whatsoever. It goes back to
the Constitutional Revolution when Abbas Effendi was quite willing to
sit back and do nothing (and even applaud) while the colonialist
forces of Britian and Russia tore the movement for the freedom,
democracy and independence of my homeland (Iran) to pieces. It goes
back to the days of the last Pahlavi Shah when the Habib Sabets, Dr
Karim Ayadis and crooked crime bosses such as Hojabr Yazdani, and the
like, where lauded as heroes and exemplars by this vicious and corrupt
cult and its community.
What is to be expected, really? It is, after all, a baha'i vocation
that ends justify means and that therefore lying, deciet, obfuscation,
character assassination, and destroying peoples lives, livelihoods and
families is justified. These people cry to human rights organizations
throughout the world that they are persecuted by the mullocracy in
Iran. I ask any fair minded person to come to talk.religion.bahai and
take a good look at what these people are doing and saying about the
Bayaniyyah (the movement I have spawned) and tell me if it is anything
other than persecution. I ask any fair minded person to come to the
Gold Coast in Australia and see for themselves what this vicious cult
is attempting to do and tell me if it is any different (if not worse)
than what the mullocracy is apparently doing to the baha'is of
Iranians?
O fair minded people, and especially my fellow Iranian compatriots,
beware of these Haifan baha'is. While today they show you a face of a
Mazlum (wronged one) when the mask is one day taken off you will see
for yourselves the kind of marauding wolves in sheeps clothing that
these people really are.
Nima Saoshyant
Saoshyant6 wrote:
> She
>
> In the name of God the Glorified, the Holy!
>
> It would seem that hard financial times have hit Mr Duran and so in
(snip)
About two weeks ago you were posting similar crackles of flatulence. At
the time, I advised you to get the goods, then post. That is, get the
goods, then post.
Here, once again, you have an itch, and you scratch. Harry has a well
known record criticizing the Guardian, the AO, and various aspects of the
Baha'i Faith. Recently he has returned with no indication whatsoever that
his views on the BF has changed one smidgin. Nobody but you and your cult
followers would believe that Harry would take money to defend the BF, and,
nobody but you and your cult followers would believe that the AO would
offer someone like him any money to defend the BF.
Harry is clearly here for you. You invited him, and you keep him through
cheap stunts like the one above.
Your continued shenanigans only further diminish the credibility of
yourself and all you have said over the past 8 years.
Grow up, and get your own newsgroup!
- Pat
kohli at ameritel.net
It would seem that religious liberalism has reached its ugly outcome in the
endless tirades of the self-indignant academics and feminist extremists,
their sympathizers who desire above all that the BF be nothing more than a
deist expression of the secular, humanistic and morally and ethically
bankrupt values of modern Anglo-American culture. This is not the fault of
the Bahai Faith which has in its writings and policies clear and
uncompromising statements about women in the UHJ, free speech and democratic
idealism. People who did not adequately study these materials have no one
else to blame but themselves for their own lack of due diligence in signing
their declaration cards. the mystical writings which so many became enamored
of through Bahaullah are not unique and similar mystical beauty can be found
in the writings of Thomas a Kempis, Rumi and nagarjuna - mysticism in itself
is not a sufficient quality to proclaim a new faith or to create an new
religion, nor is mysticism a necessary reason to proclaim adherence in a new
faith. This of course since all faiths have a mystical content.
Nevertheless, I do not agree with the fundamental principles of the Bahai
faith; that is to say its concept of progressive revelation and covenants,
and their rejection of the salvific act of Christ's death on the cross and
resurrection, so I cannot say that I am a Bahai, and this is the reason that
I did leave the faith in 1977.
However, a sense of admiration for the mysticism of Bahaullah did lead me to
explore sufism and aspects of the Bahai writings which speak to Irfan and
union with God, nevertheless, even in its most loose sense the soteriologic
principle of Christ's sacrifice is missing. That is fine with me, those who
choose to be Bahais or sufis have of course their freedom of conscience to
do so.
Nevertheless, having been dragged into this mess yet again by the
unsolicited ,unwelcome, and importunous contact of certain individuals, I
must now state as I have previously that those who have been complaining
about "censorship" need to review the tenets of the Faith and accept them in
toto or reject them; but this endless whining about women on the UHJ which
has been expressly forbidden and prepublication review has only succeeded in
being divisive and an occasion of sin for most.
The Talisman Crack-Up is the defining event of this nonsense and it would
seem to me that the more effective solution would be for the UHJ to declare
the principals involved "Covenant Breakers", which IMO would put an end to
this nonsense. Instead people claiming to be "believers" in Bahaullah yet
"disenrolled" have by and large been a source of mischief and disorder and
have provided the imeptus for those misguided cultists to proclaim their own
vanity a revelation of God, have created an idol of feminism through which
they blaspheme the Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit, and deify their own
lusts.
Not satisfied with the blasphemies against their own faith, in their
idolatrous goddess based ecumenism these individuals have also blasphemed
Jesus Christ, and Muhammad. While Christians are used to having their
religion made mock by non-believers, the effects of this new age based
blasphemy against Islam by the parties peripherally associated with the
Bahai Faith has the very real potential to incite religious persecutions of
Bahais in Islamic countries by people who do not understand that the "new
bayanni" revelation is not part of the Bahi Faith - these posts are being
put forward on soc.culture.iranian after all.
For this reason I would speculate that it would behoove the Bahai AO to do
some CB declarations and cleanse some house to put a stop to this ongoing
mockery of other faiths which is being done on this list by the new
bayannies and the "disenrolled" Bahais.
It is time to for those that are in charge to put a stop to these
shennanigans and to get their house in order.
Corax
--
łDo not try and bend the spoon. Thatąs impossible. Instead . . . only try
to realize the truth. There is no spoon. Then youÄ…ll see that it is not the
spoon that bends, it is only yourself.Ë›
In the Name of God, the Glorified, the Holy!
Of course it is a well known fact to people in the know that Kholi is
a paid and hired agent of the baha'i cult administration, sent on the
internet to police baha'i boards and battle those of its opponents. It
is an even better known fact that Dr Maniac (the Antichrist of My
Revelation) is paid by this cult as well, as confessed by Mark Foster
who admitted the monies that he was being paid by the baha'i cult
administration. These glaze eyed cultists speak with forked tongues
and have the gall to talk about a credibility which they themselves do
even not possess nor would they know what credibility was, since they
have sold their souls collectively to the accursed Satan of
materialism and Big LIE. Thus, their whole aim when uncomfortable
facts are brought to them is to smear and call into question the
integrities of those who dare question the flimsy foundations of their
dangerous, malicious cult, rather than the issues. For the things it
has done and is doing, any fair minded, objective person can assess
who lacks credibility here, and it is the Haifan baha'i cultists and
those who follow this pernicious and malicious creed whose agenda is
nothing short of the imposition of a totalitarian New World Order (I
ask people to read their "Revelations" and find out the aims of the
Antichrist as spelled out in that Book).
This is an organization with solid ties to the Israeli Mossad and the
Zionist government and other similar nefarious anti-humanitarian
fascist organizations. It is an organization whose senior
administrative members where once senior economic advisors to the
junta of Generalissimo Augusto Pinochet (one of the worst human rights
violaters of the 20th century). This is an organization whose Ugandan
"Hand of the Cause," Olinga, was a crony of Idi Amin's and it was for
this reason whereby he was "mysteriously" murdered after the fall of
Amin. This is an organization who today unashamedly rubbs shoulders
with the racist Pauline Hanson and Reza Pahlavi in broad daylight,
gambling on an American CIA and military installation of Pahlavi a la
1953. This is an organization which murdered Dan Jordan and Hedi
Ma'ani, and possibly others. This is an organization whose sole aim is
the disruption of the lives, livelihoods and the break-up of familes
for its own insidious ends, ad nauseum. In short, this organization is
a cult and among the most vicious of cults out there.
Recently they have even gone so far as to enlist the support of a
particularly mentally deranged individual whom I have known in person:
a person who has been diagnosed with clinical manic depression,
paranoid schizophrenia and post traumatic stress disorder and imbibes
a mountain of medication daily. It appears that this is an
organization which is so desperate at the moment because they know
their days are numbered and that myself and many others will stop at
nothing to expose them to the world at large for the malicious and
dangerous political cult that they are. Otherwise why would they care
to respond to every single thing I post? It would beg the question
indeed. Seemingly they have been hurt and hurt badly and like a
wounded animal cornered they are lashing out in all directions.
However, they are foolish.
They have miscalculated many times before where I am concerned and
they will continue to miscalculate, foolishly believing that their
tactics have any effect upon me whatsoever. As I have said before, the
only way I will be stopped is for the baha'i cultists to do to me what
they did to Dan Jordan, Hedi Ma'ani, Siyyid Muhammad Isfahani and all
those Bayanis whom they murdered in Baghdad and Edirne. I possess a
divine mandate from the All High Herself and hence have initiated a
new movement and nothing either in heaven or earth can stop it. The
more they continue with their persecutions the more the Bayaniyyah
will grow.
Verily we are from God and to Her we shall return completed and verily
I am the Proof of God and Her Light!
Nima Saoshyant
(Wahdat Ali Sayf'ullah Quddusiyyah)
Corax <cor...@elp.rr.com> wrote in message news:<BA37B3FE.14BE4%cor...@elp.rr.com>...
> --
Saoshyant6 wrote:
> She is God
>
> In the Name of God, the Glorified, the Holy!
>
> Of course it is a well known fact to people in the know that Kholi is
> a paid and hired agent of the baha'i cult administration, sent on the
> internet to police baha'i boards and battle those of its opponents.
I tend to be a bit more skeptical of remarks prefaced by "obviously", and this one is not
prefaced in such a manner; if something were obvious, there would be no need to point it
out.
When something is a well known fact, it need not be pointed out, obviously. When a
notion is introduced as a well known fact, it is more likely an opinion held mainly by
the person who is making the assertion. In this case, it is likely sad sympton of
frustration at having been shown to be wrong on so many occasions, quite understandable
for someone in Nima's position. Nima has previously made such outrageous accusations,
and been answered. He has no evidence, so he repeats his allegations, like a parrot.
Sadly, Nima has already put me on his enemies list, declared me dead, a person not to be
made mention of. Is the mispelling of my name a loop hole, for him to sneak through his
own rules?
> It
> is an even better known fact that Dr Maniac (the Antichrist of My
> Revelation) is paid by this cult as well, as confessed by Mark Foster
> who admitted the monies that he was being paid by the baha'i cult
> administration.
It is an ad hom allegation which sours with its repetition.
> These glaze eyed cultists speak with forked tongues
> and have the gall to talk about a credibility which they themselves do
You make these allegations because you have been shown pathetically wrong so many times,
from your parrotting of the pusallanimity post, through your Chieftain tanks, you can't
seem to get a story straight. Even after claiming to be a prophet, you can't tell an
emerald (green) from a ruby (red).
>
> even not possess nor would they know what credibility was, since they
> have sold their souls collectively to the accursed Satan of
> materialism and Big LIE. Thus, their whole aim when uncomfortable
That is what you say. It isn't your BIG LIE, it is just another one of your MANY LIES,
though.
>
> facts are brought to them is to smear and call into question the
Bring me an uncomfortable fact. Two weeks ago when you started this accusation I told
you to get the goods before posting. Earlier today I repeated it. You have no factual
basis to allege that the AO so much as gave me gas money to drop an NSA member off at the
airport. You have no factual basis for your allegation that the AO has hired me to be on
the internet.
>
> integrities of those who dare question the flimsy foundations of their
> dangerous, malicious cult, rather than the issues. For the things it
What issues? An ABM on TV? Turns out to be "not so". A directive from the US NSA
forbidding the Baha'is from reciting certain prayers in public? Again, "NOT SO". I'm
happy to discuss real issues; I am tired of getting my feet muddied by 'working' your
disappointing fabrications.
> (snip down to something particularly humorous for Robert Arvey)
> This is an organization with solid ties to the Israeli Mossad and the
> Zionist government and other similar nefarious anti-humanitarian
See, Robert, I am in with the zionist government. Nima says so. Maybe I am a holdover
from the Labor party, pushing my co-existence agenda.
The real links to other organizations are things like the UN, not the Mossad.
(Snipped further rantings)
Nima, see a doctor. Ask him why you can't stand most of your old friends any more, since
you told us you were a Manifestation of God. He will believe you are telling what you
know to be true.
Best wishes!
> sAle no mobArak
Ay masdar-e nang o nangineh-ye koll, saal-e naw Naw Ruz ast!
You are paid to be skeptical and obfuscate, as you are a hired agent
of the baha'i cult. Otherwise what do you care what I say that you
have to reply to every post? Obviously there is a "directive" from the
small house of ignorance deputizing Dr Maniac, yourself and others
here to do so, which demonstrably has a financial dividend to it.
Perhaps a full IRS audit of both you and Dr Maniac's accounts (and a
complete and full IRS audit of the accounts of the baha'i cult ao in
the US and an Israeli Tax office audit of the WC in Haifa to be
publically made known) would settle matters. Perhaps someone should
drop a line to the Internal Revenue Service and the Israeli Tax office
to get the ball rolling since God knows where all the monies are going
and how they are being embezzled by the baha'i cultists besides being
thrown in the pockets of Kholi (meaning "crazy one" in Persian) and
the Antichrist Maniac.
WASQ
Let it go, Pat. Delusions of grandeur and the kind of paranoia we see here
pretty much go together. How seriously is anyone going to take charges from
someone who claims to be Quddus and Jesus Christ anyhow? Let him spew out his
mad ramblings.
Susan Maneck
Associate Professor of History
Jackson State University
Iranian people here in SCI, like, Shumbool, Marabeboos, Ariamehr,
Peace 200x, Peacock, Sirknight, Mehrnoosh, Kiyanoush, and many more
feel exactly alike.
Thanks.
Pat Kohli <kohliCUT...@ameritel.net> wrote in message news:<3E13175E...@ameritel.net>...
Ariamehr
"marabeboos" <marabeb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c7b494a.03010...@posting.google.com...
> She
>
> > sAle no mobArak
>
> Ay masdar-e nang o nangineh-ye koll, saal-e naw Naw Ruz ast!
>
> You are paid to be skeptical and obfuscate, as you are a hired agent
> of the baha'i cult. Otherwise what do you care what I say that you
> have to reply to every post? Obviously there is a "directive" from the
> small house of ignorance deputizing Dr Maniac, yourself and others
> here to do so, which demonstrably has a financial dividend to it.
> Perhaps a full IRS audit of both you and Dr Maniac's accounts (and a
> complete and full IRS audit of the accounts of the baha'i cult ao in
> the US and an Israeli Tax office audit of the WC in Haifa to be
> publically made known) would settle matters. Perhaps someone should
> drop a line to the Internal Revenue Service and the Israeli Tax office
> to get the ball rolling since God knows where all the monies are going
> and how they are being embezzled by the baha'i cultists besides being
> thrown in the pockets of Kholi (meaning "crazy one" in Persian) and
> the Antichrist Maniac.
>
It is nice to see that at a snail's pace you are figuring out some way to substantiate your
allegations. If only you would realize that you should preserve your credibility and get the
evidence BEFORE you make the accusations, rather than repeating them until you are not just
proven wrong, but proven wrong to your satisfaction.
Best wishes!
- Pat
>I pray to Jesus Christ that he deliver you from Evil, the diabolic
succubus which has taken >possession of your soul so that you can seek
the psychiatric attention that you are in obvious >need of. I pray
that you and your family will come to Jesus for your salvation. Amen.
YEEEEES! Jesus Saves, but Moses picks up the rebound and SCCCCCORES!
Not to mention, which I don't, that Corax is the perfect bollix who
sends HTML, instead of plain text, which shows you the type of bollix
he really is!
Good Gawd ! Where have I been? In Kansas?
Things are obviously bad in the AO if it has to resort to hiring the
DST. Personally speaking, I wouldn't pay her to clean up anything but
then, I do have some sort of standards of decency and honesty. So
where does this leave the AO if it has hired her? I shudder to think!
Corax
I do, I do! But you're still a bollix!
Duran Duran and the Orgasmetron of Religious Rectitude and Predestined
Crud. You've got the rectitude and I'm predestined to miss you in the
next world. Your God is magnificent like that. You're pre-booked
with a MasterSalvation Card, the Visa to the delights of paradise
whilst the scum, i.e. those bastards unfortunate enough not to be like
you, including everybody else around about here, are thrown on the
barbecue.
I have a general allergic reaction to organized religion, which is why I
subscribe to SCI, and not religious discussion groups. I'm not an
atheist, I just don't need a middleman to God whether it's Zartosht,
Mohammad, Buddha, Baha'ulah, Moses, Jesus, George Burns, or anyone else
I could think of at 2:15 in the morning :).
To each their own beliefs, I would no more try to cram my spiritual
beliefs down your throat, than I would accept yours crammed down mine.
In defense of this Saoshyant guy though, at least in his post he
mentioned 2 or 3 Iranians (albeit just to cuss them out), Mohsin doesn't
even do that. But I agree that both posters materials are off topic,
and cherto pert. You shouldn't be surprised that I agree with you on
this point. True harmony in our land will come the day the "Aragh khor"
(that would be me) doesn't try to get the Mossalmoon drunk, and the
Mossalmoon (that would be you) will not interfere with my drinking. I
don't need thousands of pages of esoteric poetry in Arabic, Dari, or
Hindu to express a simple concept: Live and Let Live.
And in closing to all holy rollers of all religions who post off topic
posts whether it's the Soldier of Christ, Mohsin, Zorastrian Assembly,
Susan Maneck or that new addition with his "Shalom Moses" posts: BABA
DAST AZ SAREH KACHALEH SCI BARDARIN. God does not need a cheering
squad, he manages fine without all of you :)
Furthermore, I'm a little confused as to why you have an auto signature
that announces your professional title to everyone when you post. Since
you post frequently to an Iranian newsgroup you must be aware that
Iranians abroad frequently have multiple graduate degrees. Your
professional title does little more alienate you from readers in a
newsgroup littered with doctors, lawyers, and engineers. I only mention
this since you referred to "delusions of grandeur" in your post.
I'm sure you are as sweet as apple pie, but the fact that your faith
originated in Iran doesn't mean that anything that relates to the bahai
faith is therefore a relevant topic for Soc.Culture.Iranian. Would you
post your personal research of Sutton Hoo to a U.S. Navy newsgroup about
Aircraft Carriers just because it somehow pertains to a boat?!
Were it not for the fact Nima was posting his anti-Baha'i posts here none of us
would be here at all. I don't start threads on the Baha'i Faith on SCI.
> (snip)
> Good Gawd ! Where have I been? In Kansas?
>
Heaven or a cornfield in Iowa? How could one tell them apart? Good to
see you back, Happy New Year, Merry Christmas, Saturnalia, Festivus,
Sylvester, Tweety, and the like!
>
> Things are obviously bad in the AO if it has to resort to hiring the
> DST. Personally speaking, I wouldn't pay her to clean up anything but
> then, I do have some sort of standards of decency and honesty. So
> where does this leave the AO if it has hired her? I shudder to think!
I think it is a joke that someone has taken seriously, either that or a
delusion at the outset. I think it bodes ill that anyone give this any
credence.
Dermod Ryder wrote:
> "Corax" <cor...@elp.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:BA3A4E77.14D43%cor...@elp.rr.com...
> > Too bad, deal widdit - Dermis.
>
> I do, I do! But you're still a bollix!
>
> Duran Duran and the Orgasmetron of Religious Rectitude and Predestined
> Crud. You've got the rectitude and I'm predestined to miss you in the
> next world. Your God is magnificent like that. You're pre-booked
> with a MasterSalvation Card, the Visa to the delights of paradise
> whilst the scum, i.e. those bastards unfortunate enough not to be like
> you, including everybody else around about here, are thrown on the
> barbecue.
>
> >
We've missed you, and all, but, I don't think Harry is one of those
obnxious ones, going on about sinners in the hands of an angry God - I
think he can just do it in a spot. I suspect that he despises them as
much as you do, but has enough sense not to boast about despising them.
I'm not saying you don't have good sense, Dermod, in expressing your
disdain. I'm just going to quit before I get farther behind.
- Pat
No shit! Hee hee hee.