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 More options Aug 7 2012, 5:14 pm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.malaysia, soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.indonesia, soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 7 2012 5:14 pm
Subject: Vietnam Angry Over Beijing Bandit Regime's Wanton Bullying
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/06/protests-vietnam-china-bu...

Guardian, UK
August 6, 2012

Protests in Vietnam as anger over China's 'bullying' grows
Tensions rise after Beijing declares city, which Vietnam lays claim
to, its newest municipality
By Esmer Golluoglu

The banners, T-shirts and handwritten posters said it all. "China!
Hands off Vietnam!" read one. "Shame on you, bastard neighbour," said
another. "Stop escalating, invading the East Sea of Vietnam," a third
declared.

As the protesters weaved their way through the crowded streets of
Hanoi, past the peeling colonial villas and upmarket shops selling
stereos and Versace, they charged towards the Chinese embassy, where
they hoped to make a stand against what they call "China's constant
aggression".

"I hate China!" said one fortysomething protester, his voice hoarse
from shouting slogans. "Germany invaded Poland during the second world
war, now China wants to do the same to Vietnam. History may repeat
itself if the international community is not made aware of China's
bullying."

From government offices to the streets of Vietnam, tensions between
Beijing and Hanoi have mounted in recent weeks over what China calls
the South China Sea and Vietnam the East Sea, an area where vast
deposits of oil and gas, important international shipping routes and
fishing rights are of interest not just to Beijing and Hanoi, but also
to the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei.

But last month's protesters had only China on their mind. After
detaining a group of Vietnamese fishermen near disputed islands this
year, Beijing announced that the state-backed China National Offshore
Oil Corporation was seeking bids for oil exploration in what Vietnam
deems its own sovereign waters.

It also declared Sansha City – on tiny Yongxing in the Paracel
islands, which Vietnam lays claim to – China's newest municipality.
The anti-China protest was the third of its kind in Hanoi in one
month. "The territorial ambition of China is a common threat – not
only for the Philippines or Vietnam but for countries all over the
world," said leading economist Le Dang Doanh, a former government
adviser who recently signed an open letter calling for China to
abandon its "absurd maritime claims" in the region. "China's
territorial claims are now bigger than China itself."

Hanoi, 125 miles from the Chinese border, knows it must play a
delicate game. Trade between the two countries reached an estimated
$40bn last year, and analysts say that ties between the authoritarian,
one-party states are considerably closer than either government would
like to admit.

The seeming standoff has pushed the US into the game, with recent
visits by the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, and the defence
secretary, Leon Panetta, highlighting America's interest in its former
foe. Panetta's visit to Cam Ranh bay, a US naval base during the
Vietnam war, sparked particular curiosity over the US's intentions to
"protect key maritime rights for all nations in the South China Sea"
as it moves to deploy 60% of its naval ships to the Pacific by 2020.

Carlyle Thayer, a Vietnam expert at the Australian defence academy,
said Vietnam was likely to maintain its sovereignty by co-operating –
but not aligning itself – with the US, but warned the situation in the
South China Sea could worsen before it improved. "Most likely an
incident will occur from a misadventure of two opposite boats trying
to be in the same place at the same time," he said. "At the moment
there's enough control [on both sides] but the analysis is that a lot
of China's agencies are acting independently, and the central
government is having a hard time asserting authority … the problem is
that [neither country's] crisis management techniques are very good."

The protests in Hanoi come at a time of uncertainty over Vietnam's
political and social future. Its economy has followed a remarkable
trajectory from colonialism and communism through to the doi-moi
("socialist-oriented market economy") capitalism of the 1990s and
beyond. Art-deco villas have been razed for multi-storey office
blocks, and gaudy mansions dwarf the shady avenues of Ho Chi Minh City
and Hanoi, where men in slacks and women in short shorts and stilettos
skittle past in glossy Mercedes and 4x4 BMWs.

Here, the rich have become so rich that a Vietnamese businessman
recently purchased an entire American town for sale in Wyoming. But
Vietnam is running a huge trade deficit with China ($1.85bn in the
first two months of the year alone) and its three million-member
Communist party is struggling to maintain control over its population
of 90 million, 70% of whom were born after 1975, and one-third of whom
have internet access.

Protesters are not just angry about China's territorial ambitions, but
about the gaping rich-poor divide, increasing accounts of police
brutality, widening crackdowns on dissent, and growing numbers of land
evictions and human rights abuses. Reporters without Borders declared
Vietnam an "enemy of the internet" as a decree aimed at making it
illegal to post anonymously online means that bloggers particularly
are under attack. Facebook is blocked, as are many blogs, and
activists claim emails, phone calls and whereabouts are routinely
monitored. The Committee to Protect Journalists cites Vietnam as the
fourth-worst jailer of journalists in the world. "Vietnam really is
the new Burma," said Phil Robertson of Human Rights Watch.

"We're seeing more of a crackdown on freedom of expression, a growing
lawlessness in terms of the way police interact with people, a
continued effort to go after prominent bloggers, to identify activists
and jail dissidents. They're trying to prevent any Arab spring-type
event where a mixture of information on the internet combined with
people being angry and protesting ignites into something more. It's
very embarrassing for Vietnam, because previously they were the
influential ones giving advice to Burma, which was the basket-case."

Now that Burma is no longer a pariah — thanks to the election of Aung
San Suu Kyi to parliament and a slew of reforms initiated by reformist
President Thein Sein — the shining star that was once Vietnam has
waned considerably, says one local analyst. "Foreign direct investment
is flowing into Burma and declining in Vietnam. The government knows
it is losing credibility. Vietnam allowed its private sector to
develop, but it did not reform its political system. It was a fatal
mistake."

Dissident lawyer Le Quoc Quan, one of Vietnam's most prominent human
rights activists who has been repeatedly jailed and beaten for his
democracy efforts, said Vietnam was fighting a losing battle. "More
people know more about their rights, so the more they fight for their
rights, [the] more repression, more arrests," he said. "But an
optimistic sign is that people are not afraid."

While it is hoped a diplomatic resolution over the South China Sea
will soon be reached – the Association of Southeast Nations agreed
last week to a "code of conduct" that may see negotiations begin with
China in September – it is just as likely that tension will continue.
"The problem of China and Vietnam has been a problem for 2,000 years,"
says Le Dang Doanh. "If China keeps up the aggression, one million
[Vietnamese] will take to the streets to protest. You'll see."


 
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Dai Li , the Himmler of China and the Head of the Bureau of investigation and Statistics ( Chinese CIA ) of the KMT  
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 More options Aug 7 2012, 10:26 pm
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china, soc.culture.malaysia, soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.indonesia, soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "Dai Li , the Himmler of China and the Head of the Bureau of investigation and Statistics ( Chinese CIA ) of the KMT" <verinvanv...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 19:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Aug 7 2012 10:26 pm
Subject: Re: Vietnam Angry Over Beijing Bandit Regime's Wanton Bullying
Vietnam  was  Chinese territory  ,

Vietnam  shall be  Chinese  territory  again in the  future .

that is  why   we  CHINESE  are taking  the  SPRATLYS   in
preparation
for   OUR   Chinese  claims  over  VIETNAM  ,  MALAYSIA ,  THE
PHILIPPINES,  and  SINGAPORE ,.

OH  SORRY  ,  we  CHINESE  have  already  claimed  SINGAPORE .

 Aug 7, 2:14 pm, Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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