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Suab Hmoob Rhawv Siab, Muag Nrog Zig Rau Ncauj Luag Ntxhi Siab Nkaj Nrhi...

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Tzianeng Vang

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Sep 17, 2008, 2:38:01 PM9/17/08
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Kab ntsab ib tsoom npoj yaig SCHlers,

Ntawm peb Hmoob lub noob neej li tej suab nquas suab hu no lub twg
rhawv nej siab tshaj? Ntawm kuv ces yog muaj li nram no:

1. Suab raj nplaim
2. Npliaj mog siv saub, saub siv mog... (deserving of being Hmong
national anthem melody)
3. Suab qeej

Mam tos nej nquas nej li tuaj ntxiv...

Ua tsaug!

-Txiabneeb

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 2:44:21 PM9/17/08
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TZ...

koj puas tiag mas?? nkauj tuag coj los ua national anthem? txawm yog
lub suab xwb los...its too big of a jump for me...

rau kuv..yam kho siab tshaj ces yog raj nplaim xwb....yog li koj hais,
ces koj yuav nyiam qhov no...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54aWNmEyH9Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zspv00PtllA

yaweh

tzex...@msn.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 2:54:51 PM9/17/08
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1. Tej zaum lub suab nraj hliav ncauj thiab nraj ntsia yuav muaj duas
dua.

2. Lub suab no mas kuv ho hnov li no: Npliam mos sis saub, saub si
pam tawg niav nkaum quag lib mos... cov lus mas kuv xav tias yog li
no: Pliaj mob sib sau. Sau sis Pajtawg (Pajtawg nyob Yunnan) niam
nkauj quaj li mob. Yog peb hu nkuj nyob xeephaus los yog minipaumliv
ces peb yuav hais tias: Npliam mos sis saub, saub sis mibnipaumliv
niav nkaum quag lib mos...

Nyobntawm sawvdaws xav saib..

3. Lub suab qeej kuj siv tau thiab. Tabsis yuav tsum nrawm li thaum
ntaus Suav.

Txawjxab

zhen

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:06:33 PM9/17/08
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yaweh,

tus hu hu puas yog koj os? zoo li lub npe hu ua yag hawj, thiab ho
nyeem nyeem koj thaib lawv pheej hu koj ua yag hawj no thiab naj.

tej nkauj no mloog hauv tsev puas tau os? tej nkauj no yog nkauj taug
es yauv ua li cas coj los siv ua national anthem? ntshe peb vwm pob.

national anthem yauv tau muaj suab qeej + suab nruas. leej twg txawj +
muaj tswv yim, muab ntau yam tso rau es yog hmoob teej hmoob tug haj
yam zoo xwb. tej nkauj qub es yaj me nus lawv tau sau + tsim yav tag
los neb? tej no puas txaus nej siab nyiam thiab? puas muaj tej zaj zoo
siv ua national anthem thiab?

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:14:05 PM9/17/08
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zhen,

to be honest with you, luag tej laus mas luag tias xob mloog hauv
tsev...temsis kuv ho coj "txawv" zog lawm thiab. feem ntau yog kuv
mloog hauv tsheb xwb..temsis muaj qee zaug kuv mloog hauv tsev thiab.
temsis yog "record" lawm no ces, kuv muab thwm tias yog kev kawm
xwb...record hauv tsev los tsi ua cas...

cov nkauj no twb kawm tau ntev ntev lawm...temsis muaj tu puav xav
mloog lub suab (along with the different variations) moob leeg, es kuv
thiaj muab kaw xwb.

hais txog national anthem ces, kuv ho nyiam zaj niag uas lawd tias
"vim li cas peb yog hmoob (hmoob suav)" or something to that extent

yaweh

kwv...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:29:01 PM9/17/08
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hais txog kev hu nkauj, kuv kuj paub hu zaj puav thiab. cov suab pib
mas ib rab teb kuj pib ib yam txawv me me.
tej co pib li no.. "npliaj mog yuav siv saub.. saub xiv law paj tawg
sib qawg aw mo muav paj ho..." no
tej co ho pib li no.. "pliaj mog yuav siv saub... saub xiv law paj
ntawg niam nkauj xib quas mos... " no.
tab sis tam sim no mas peb feem coob pib li no lawm... "paj tawg yuav
siv saub... saub siv law paj tawg aw kuv txiv nkauj sawv los hais..."
no lawm.

hais txog raj mas lub suab nrab nplooj kho siab tshaj.

Tzianeng Vang

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:32:16 PM9/17/08
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Cov npoj yaig,

Nyob hauv peb lub neej ces twb muaj: yug, sib qaws ua neej thiab tuag
xwb...ua cas nkauj hu/nquas rau kev ploj tuag ho yuav txias siab ua
luaj?

Lwm hom suab yeej zoo kawg tiam sis yog lwm haiv li txuj...cov suab no
yog nquas thaum twg Hmoob thoob ntuj yeej ras paub txog kiag hauv roj
hauv ntshav tuaj zoo siab hlo tias yog Hmoob teej Hmoob tug...

The melodies that touch to the core of one's inner soul is the anthem:
piv txwv...

Moj them nqa kab (siv lub suab npliaj mos siv sau)
Peb Hmoob tus loj yaus yuav tau sib pab

Moj them nqa kab
Peb Hmoob sawv daws yeej koom tes loj npab

Moj them nqa kab
Peb Hmoob nyob deb ze los yog ib txhab

Txawj pib tsis txawj xaus ces lam seev, seev li no xwb...nej ho ntxiv
thiab seb ho yuav deev tau siab li cas ntxiv?

phwvnyawm

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:54:54 PM9/17/08
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Zhen,

Koj txhob lam mloog tej nkauj TUAG,zaj Qhuab ke thiab tshuab qeej TUAG
ntaus ruas nrov npoog-g nrij-j nrawj-j lawj,npoog-g hauv tsev tsam koj
yawg pom ces koj yawg xuas khauj tsiav rau koj nawb.Hais ncaj nawb peb
cov mus lawb dab no mas mloog los yeej tsis ua cas li lawm
nawb......hos cov tseem cov qub kev cai mas mloog ces muaj tus ntsuj
plig tsiv tsawv ces kawg bye-bye no laid.Yog koj ho xav mloog hwv no
ces cab koj lub PC rau nraum zoov es mam mloog hauv internet......nyaj
dab tsis hnov lawm laud.......dab li dab nyob hauv tsev xwb no
laid.......vim cov dab vaj,dab tsev tsuas zov txij li lub qhov rooj
los xwb.......sab nraum zoov ces leej twg yuav ua dab tsis los lawv
yeej tsis kk.......tej laus thaum ub mas yog yuav kawm hom no ces yuav
tau tawm nraum zoov mam kawm.......zaj qhuav ke mas kuv twb kawm
lawm........yus tseem yuav tau mus kawm ntawm tej lub pob ntoo yuav
vau es yus kawm-m tag yus xa ncaws taw rau kom pob ntoos nkoj hlo
laid......vim thaum koj seev suab hais koj yeej hais taw tes rau lub
pob ntoo.

Huag tav no es koj tseem tsis tau-au paub kuv tus npawg Tsuj Sua los?

Npawg Tsuj,

Ua tsaug koj cov nkauj nawb........kuv yeej nyiam mloog tej nkauj no
kawg......zoo li ib ntus dhau los koj twb muab tso tawm ib zaug
lawm.....kuv tseem muaj.....qhov tseem ceeb lub suab mas qhov kuv yuav
kawm.......yus tsis txawj ces thaum pib hais yog nkauj tuag.......ib
chim yus cia li hais li hais lus lawm.......cov tsis txawj li peb no
naj.....yuav mloog-g tas zog mas thiaj nco tau.

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:57:44 PM9/17/08
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TV..

kuv ho tsi pom tias nkauj txias siab....kuv ntseeg mas yus tias txias
ces txias xwb..tsi txias ces tsi txias xwb...whoever created it, kuv
xav na, yog create los hais kev tu siab, los hu rau sawvdaws
mloog...temsis ua ua ces, sawvdaws cia li hais tias "siv rau kev tuag
lawm"...txias txias siab li...no xwb.

qhov tseeb..yog peb xij muaj cov niag "supersitious no"
ces...kwvtxhiaj tuag los twb hais during funerals thiab...yog peb coj
li no ces..ntev mus, kwvtxhiaj los yuav caiv lawm thiab....mas kuv xav
mas, xob muab cov niag no los thwm loj loj....yus tias "tsi ua cas" no
ces yeej tsi ua cas xwb..feem ntau yog yus 'belief' tias it is such
and such xwb.

yaweh

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:06:30 PM9/17/08
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phawv,

ua caag koj yuav has ntaub nkaus li lawm..hahahahaha...cov nam laug
mas, xav kawm ua luaj, los tseem dlov pob ntoo hab...hahaahahah..muab
xav xav mas txaus luag heev...pom xeeb kawm lawm tes, tsi ntshai kiag
li ho...ua li no mas thiaj li tau.

example: niam no ces, kuv tshuab qeej tu siav ces, kuv yeej tsi ntaus
plig li lawm...temsis if request by other txiv qeej ces kuv ntaus
thiab....muaj ib tug xwbfwb qhia kuv tias "pom xeeb ua lawm es tseem
ntshai dabtsi? tej niag no ces, nyob ntawm yus txoj kev xav thiab yus
lub qhov ncauj xwb.." vim li no, muaj tej qho tsi tsim nyob ua los peb
yeej tsi ua li lawm thiab.

yaweh

kwv...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:12:35 PM9/17/08
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On Sep 17, 2:54 pm, phwvnyawm

>Hais ncaj nawb peb
> cov mus lawb dab no mas mloog los yeej tsis ua cas li lawm
> nawb......

phwvnyawm-- yog li koj hais ces txhais hais tias nej cov lawb dab lawm
ces yeej tsis ntshai dab ntxwg nyoog li lawm no puas yog mas. yog li
no koj puas kam tuaj pw ntawm tag es cia ib tug txiv tawm kev los
qhuab kev thiab ib tug txiv qeej los tshuab zaj qeej tu siab xyom tas
zog rau koj mas. yog koj kam no mas kuv thiaj ntseeg ov.

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:16:07 PM9/17/08
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kwves..

hais dabtsi li kod na....txawm nws pw ntawm tag es lawd qhuab ke thiab
tshov qeej los...it has nothing to do with ntxwj nyoog li lawm ne?
yuav muaj kev ntshai dabtsi na? if i were in that position, kuv tseem
ntshai tsam tibneeg tias "cas yuav xav tuag ua luaj na" no xwb...or
"koj vwm lawm lov" no xwb...

yaweh

Tzianeng Vang

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:24:11 PM9/17/08
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yaweh,

kuv tias txaus siab heev no...tsis yog tias txias siab no nawb...cov
suab no mas yog deev siab tshaj rau kuv ntawm lub neej Hmoob...

Thov rov post koj cov nkauj peb tau mloog thiab kawm, yuam?

Thov txim, tsis nco lawm Neeb David Vaaj (Akron, OH) yog koj dab laug
sub puas yog ne?

Ua tsaug!

phwvnyawm

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:25:14 PM9/17/08
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Npawg Tsuj,

Lwm yam mas kuj tsis tshua ntshai.....Tab sis zaj qhuab ke thiab zaj
qeej tu siav ( Thawj-j zag) mas yog leej twg siab tsis tawv ua tsis
tau......muaj coob-b tus xav kawm los tais caus siab tawv tsis
txaus......vim thaum koj xav tus tuag ntawd mus laid.......koj yeej
nrog nraim tus tuag mus-s txog kiag chaw muab tus tuag cob rau nws
poj,nws yawm tag yus mam rov los lawm........ua li koj hais thaum ub
muaj tej tus mas lawv zais roj,zais neej hneev zoo-oo thiab tseem
koos(ntaus) plig ntau-au zaus mas mam xa qhov kawg........kuv pom tus
puav siab loj li koj hais qaib roos thiab tus qaib hu plig twb tsis
yuav lawm thiab.......yog ua tau li koj mas ntev mus tej ntawd peb
hmoob yuav tau txiav tawm.......vim kuj nrhiav nyuaj kawg
thiab.......cov qaib ciaj no naj.

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:30:24 PM9/17/08
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TV...

kuv tsi paub david vaj...temsis yog koj mus youtube es search for neej
yag hawj ces there should be a few things in there for you to
listen...

yaweh

kwv...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:33:13 PM9/17/08
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tsujsuadl-- qhov kuv hais ntxwg nyoog yog kuv referred rau peb coj
tseem coj kev cai qub xwb. I didn't mean ntees tuag, qeej, qhuab ke
is ntxwg nyoog.

kuv yeej ntseeg hais tias, yus txawm mus pw kiag ntawm tag rau lawv
qhuab kev thiab tshuab qeej tu siab rau los yus yeej tsis lam tuag ib
zaug. tab sis yeej ho tsis muaj neeg kam ua li ntawd li. tos kuv nug
phwvnyawm mas kuv xav paub tias lawv cov lawb dawb lawm puas tseem
muaj qhov ntshai thiab ntseeg li peb cov tsis lawb dab no xwb. yog
lawv tsis ntshai no lawv puas kam pw ua li ntawd no xwb.

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:35:31 PM9/17/08
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npawg phawv es..

everytime kuv tshuab thawj zaj qeej tuag ntawd ces kuv yeej nug meej
meej rau the other txiv qeej tias "nej puas yuav ntau plig...yog tsi
yuav ces, kuv hla dhau plaws" no xwb...yog lawd yuav los kuv ntau, yog
lawd tsi yuav los kuv tsi ua xiam sijhawm thiab...brother, qhov tseeb
ces...neej thiab dab (conceptually) ua 4 ntau zaug lawm...lawd yeej
tsi xav pom yus li os...hahahahaha..ntshe yus tseem hem lawd poob plig
tias "cas niag neeg ntawd yuav txaus ntshai ua luaj.." no ne...tus
qaib roos plig los...feem ntau lawd muab los yus coj los noj, lawd tsi
muab los yus yeej tsi taij li os...

qhov tseem ceeb tshaj ces, yus xav ua niag vwm leg ntsuav ncauj hem
yus tus kheej xwb mas

yaweh

Hmong-Lao

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:41:35 PM9/17/08
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Cov phoojywg,
Originally, qeej thiab nruas tsis yog siv rau ntees tuag xwb. Tabsis
peb cov Hmoob uas khiav los rau xov tshoj no hloov kev nquam pag nquam
nruas lawm. Tsam no ces tsuas tshuav lo lus "nquam paj nqam nruas"
lawm xwb. Thiab tsam no ces peb ho siv pag (qeej) siv nruas rau sab
txias lawm xwb.

Kuv los kuj xav hais tias thaud ntshe tej nkauj sus no yeej yog siv
rau sab txias sob sov tib si thiab no tiag. Tabsis tsam no ho muab los
siv ua national anthem no ntshe yuav tsis zoo mloog pes tsawg. Tabsis
yog rov muab los siv rau txoj kev lom zem ib ntus no ntshe ho rov qaib
zoo mloog lawm thiab laid!

HL

zhen

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Sep 17, 2008, 4:42:11 PM9/17/08
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yaweh,

thaum i kuv txiv yeej ua li koj thiab tiag (tsav tsheb taug kev es
mloog tej niag qeej no hauv tsheb). tiam si, TRUE STORY, lub sij hawm
ntawv, TIB LUB XYOO xwb, kuv txiv tsoo tsheb 2 zaug. ib zaug mas taub
hau tsheb mluav kiag tim nkaus ntawm kauj tsheb. ib zaug mas tsheb
ntxeev tiaj khwb rwg kiag. kuv txiv ho caiv caiv no cas txij thaum
ntawv los txog niaj hnub no, tsis muaj dab tsi lawm thiab. amazingly,
kuv txiv tsis muaj ib qho scratch kiag li (but that's another story on
why, his version at least).

yog hais raws li kev ntseeg kev xav xwb ces, tej niag yam zoo li no,
yus yog ib niag hmoob lawm ces, kawg yuav tau ua kom yog li ib niag
hmoob.

also, puas muaj tseeb? kuv txiv hais tias, tej qeej pam tuag no, thuav
cov laus mus xyaum mas lawv tshuab rau pob ntoos. tshuab tshuab mas
pob ntoos lwj tag li no neb? nej puas tau pom kiag ntawm qhov muag
tias muaj tseeb li nov thiab?

zhen

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Sep 17, 2008, 5:00:20 PM9/17/08
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phwvnyawm

> Koj txhob lam mloog tej nkauj TUAG,zaj Qhuab ke thiab tshuab qeej TUAG
> ntaus ruas nrov npoog-g nrij-j nrawj-j lawj,npoog-g hauv tsev tsam koj
> yawg pom ces koj yawg xuas khauj tsiav rau koj nawb.Hais ncaj nawb peb

tej no mas peb tsev xeem vaj yeej caiv kawg li. xyov yog tus quav dab
tsi tiag tiag li es peb tsev xeem vaj no mas caiv u caiv no li thiab
tiag. caiv kev noj mov, caiv txaj, caiv tej nyuag yam mloog qeej pam
tuag hauv tsev, caiv lus, caiv tsis pub muab pas khob tsev (los khoom
vaj khoom tsev), tsuas pom + hnov caiv caiv caiv xwb tiag. txhob
txhawj, kuv yeej rhiab rhiab mloog tej niag yam zoo li no thiab.

kuv cia li xav tsis tag tias tej niag nkauj no es vim li cas yag ho
tso tej duab me nyuam rau hauv thiab. siab loj dhau hwv lawm pob?

> cov mus lawb dab no mas mloog los yeej tsis ua cas li lawm
> nawb......hos cov tseem cov qub kev cai mas mloog ces muaj tus ntsuj
> plig tsiv tsawv ces kawg bye-bye no laid.Yog koj ho xav mloog hwv no

txhob lam to taub yuam kev maj. tej dab nyob rau hauv hmoob kev ntseeg
nej cov ntseeg ntses xu yeej tseem ntseeg kawg sav. tsuas yog nej
tsis siv thiab nej siv dab virgin mary thiab dab ntses xu los tiv
thaiv lawm xwb nab. yog nej tsis ntshai thiab "tsis ua li cas lawm"
vim li cas nej ho yig rho nplaig qaib? vim li cas nej ho tsis kam tuaj
koom noj mov txog hnub ua kev cai dab qhuas? yog muaj tseeb li koj
hais kov mas, nej yeej tsis quav ntsej rho nplaig qaib vim tias rho
los zoo ib yam li yog dag tsis muaj tseeb. yog muaj tseeb li koj hais
kov mas, nej yeej tsis lam ntshai tuaj noj ib rooj mov thaum ua neeb +
khis tes + hu plig.

> ces cab koj lub PC rau nraum zoov es mam mloog hauv internet......nyaj
> dab tsis hnov lawm laud.......dab li dab nyob hauv tsev xwb no

kuv mam li nqa teeb kub lub laptop mus mloog deb deb xwb. tiam si, khi
hluas tib si ib me ntsis dab los cab no kuv thiaj pom qab khiav los
txog rooj tsev.

> laid.......vim cov dab vaj,dab tsev tsuas zov txij li lub qhov rooj
> los xwb.......sab nraum zoov ces leej twg yuav ua dab tsis los lawv
> yeej tsis kk.......tej laus thaum ub mas yog yuav kawm hom no ces yuav
> tau tawm nraum zoov mam kawm.......zaj qhuav ke mas kuv twb kawm
> lawm........yus tseem yuav tau mus kawm ntawm tej lub pob ntoo yuav
> vau es yus kawm-m tag yus xa ncaws taw rau kom pob ntoos nkoj hlo
> laid......vim thaum koj seev suab hais koj yeej hais taw tes rau lub
> pob ntoo.

yog los mav.. kuv txiv hais li nov thiab...

> Huag tav no es koj tseem tsis tau-au paub kuv tus npawg Tsuj Sua los?

tsuj sua yog niag qaib thaib ncaws heev heev ua peb niag qaib mob aws
thorn quaj, "qom qom qom" naj. hehehehe. tso dag xwb.

phwvnyawm

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Sep 17, 2008, 5:06:34 PM9/17/08
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Kwvtij....aw,

Ua cas koj yuav xav kom kuv tuag ua luaj maj........tej lus koj hais
kom kuv tuaj pw lawv tshuab qeej.... los yog taw kev rau kuv......kuv
twb tsis yog tus tuag ned.......yog yeej muaj ib tus tuag pw ntawd es
kuv pw ib qho pem tej rooj kuv yeej tsis ntshai tiag.......hmoob kev
cai laid thaum tab tom qhuab ke los tshuab zaj qeej tu siav lawv yeej
caiv tsis pub neeg lam pw laid......pw ces tsam yus tus plig cia li
nrog niag tuag ntawd mus ua ke lawm no laid.......koj hais txog cov
lawb dab......muaj ib txhia neeg lawb dab tseem tais caus tshaj cov
tseem coj dab nawb.....kuv kiag mas kuv tsis ntshai dab lawm nawb.

Hais li Zhen hais ces yog dab tsev qhia Zhen txiv lawm ntag.......kuv
mas kuv hais li no yog yus ntseeg yam twg lawm mas yuav tau caiv ua li
cov laus qhia thiaj tsis raug teeb meem........cov ua li npawg Tsuj
mas nws lub siab yeej kho txaus lawm ces kuj tsis ua cas......ho cov 2
lub siab ua xyem xyav mas kawg mag.


tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 5:10:43 PM9/17/08
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zhen...

hais txog koj txiv, xob muab xav ntau...tejzaum yog coincidence
xwb...temsis, if tsi yog coincidence no ces, koj ua ib tus menyuam
ntawm koj txiv...xob pub nws mloog mloog tej niag no lawm thiab...vim
li cas kuv hais li no? vim tias cov hluas (say kuv), mas siab tseem
phem, siav tseem tawv, ces mloog thiab tshuab/hais los tejzaum yuav
tsi muaj dabtsi, vim tias peb cov hluas lug zog tseem loj.

however, cov laus (li koj txiv thiab kvu txiv), kuv yeej tsi pub kuv
txiv mloog thiab tiag. vim tas cov laus, siab muag muag lawm, yim
laus yim muaj kev tu siab..yim laus yim muaj kev kho siab, yim laus
yim kua zuav...yog yuav ua li no ces (the belief is that), tus plig
yuav muaj kev tu siab tu saus... tejzaum teebmeem yuav tshwm ces tshwm
li no xwb.

however, during my first year of college, whenever i'm free, ces kuv
xij muab tej niag no los mloog thiab kawm. kuv li mas, kuj tsi muaj
accidents dabtsi..temsis kuv xij pom ntau yam txawv txawv such as
images, tv/stove turning on/off by itself, mus rau "thrown" away
things ending up on my bed. ua ua to the point, kuv xav tias kuv vwm
li lawm thiab...temsis yus siab ho tawv tuaj, ces kuj tsi muaj dabtsi
lawm thiab.

hais txog tshuab qeej rau pobntoo..ua ua lwj tag..tej niag no ces, kuv
xav cov laus exxagerate xwb. pob nto ces...3 hnub xwb, yeej tuaj pw
taus....3 hnub ntxiv yog pw ntau ntau lawm ces..zoo li pob ntoo lwj
tsug cia tiag.

yaweh

mua...@gmail.com

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Sep 17, 2008, 5:25:36 PM9/17/08
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phwvnyawm,

Nyob zoo koj os. Koj mas has au txaus tshai kawg hab yom, xob hem-m
zhen mas. Es koj nim tau kawm zaaj taw kev hab, koj tsi quav dlev hlo
le nawb has yaam-yaam twg koj twb paub miv miv hab.

phwvnyawm

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Sep 17, 2008, 6:25:26 PM9/17/08
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Nyob zoo Muas Tony,

Koj yawg aw......hmoob tej kev li kev cai no ces thaum kuv muaj li 7
xwb yeej pib kawm lawm los mas.....xub-b thawj ces cov laus kom kuv
tuav tus npua ua neeb kho......leej twg yog tus tuav tus npau ces
thaum tua ces nws tau 2 lub nraum npua coj los ci noj.......thaum
phais tuav taw ces tau lub zais coj los tshuab ua si......yus loj zog
ces thaum ua neeb ces pib ntau nruas,hwv neeb......yog tus txiv neeb
lub nruas nyhav-v mas txog yus siav kawg nawb thaum ntau nruas naj tej
tus txiv neeb mas yus hloov tsis tau kom txog thaum qhua txij
nad..........tej mus thov lawv ua neeb,hu qhua tuaj tua npua noj
tsiab,pes neeb tsuag dev thaum txiv neeb khav plig tau lawm,tsuag dej
yuam dab,ntaus kuam kom tsa plig,koosplig,cob nyiaj txiag xyab ntawd
rau txiaj....txheej-j txheem laig dab......noj mov nplej tshiab,noj
tsiab 30,kawm qeej,qeej mas kuv kawm nyuab tshaj plaws kuv pos tsis
tau cov ntiv nad....yus pos ces yus tsis nco tshuab lawm...ua-ua kuv
thiaj tso tseg....hos tej qhuab ke,zaj tshoob,txiv xaiv mas kawm li
kawm kwv txhiaj xwb ces yus kawm tau......etc kuv yeej kawm thiab
paub tag feem ntau lawm los mas hmoob kev cai naj......twb yog xyoo 75
tawg teb chaws cov laus poob tag lawm kuv mam los coj kev ntseeg xwb
od......tsis yog hem nawb ......kuv yeej hais qhov tseeb.......yus
ntseeg yam twg yuav tau caiv los hwm yam ntawd thiaj pab yus......ua
li kuv pheej hais rau kuv cov kwv tij........vim muaj tej zaum cov kwv
tij nyob qaum teb tuaj yuav poj niam lauj,tuaj ua neeb lauj,tuaj ua
nyuj dab,ua npua tai,pauj yeem lauj....nyob li nej tuaj tsa qhua sawv
kev mus ua tshoob hauv kuv tsev mas kuv kam......tsis pub tuaj laig
dab hauv kuv tsev,ua neeb saib,ua neeb to tus laus tuaj yuav nyuj,pauj
yeem.......tej no kuv tsis pub vim kuv lub tsev yog qhov chaw teev kuv
tus Tswv Ntuj.

phwvnyawm

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Sep 17, 2008, 6:39:16 PM9/17/08
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Kwvtij....

Peb cov hmoob nyob peb sab teb chaws mas peb ho cuab suab li no:

Npliag mog siv saub.....saub siv mog aim.....niam nkauj qeeg hais tias
kuv nrov vuj vawb yuav xa tub tuag los lawm tub tuag chaw.

Txiv nraug nruag nrov nthuj nthws yuav xa tub tuag los mus rau tub
tuag nroog....no ib sub yuas.

YawgLaus

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Sep 17, 2008, 7:15:42 PM9/17/08
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Hmoob txuj ci txhua yam uas Hmoob tshuab los yog hais tawm ntawd Hmoob
lub qhov ncauj los yeej ua rau neeg kho siab kua muag
si..................!

Tubtxib

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Sep 17, 2008, 7:05:07 PM9/17/08
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oib oib, peb hmoob twb mob stroke, ntshav roj, ntshav qab zib, mob plawv,
mob ub mob nos, twb mus tom teb yuav tas es nej tseem yuav muab tej nkauj
tuag uas national athem thiab..? ntshai yog ntuj yuav kawg lis cov saub
hais laus.

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zhen

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Sep 17, 2008, 9:19:53 PM9/17/08
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> Hmoob txuj ci txhua yam uas Hmoob tshuab los yog hais tawm ntawd Hmoob
> lub qhov ncauj los yeej ua rau neeg kho siab kua muag
> si..................!

qhov tseeb ces saib seb zaj nkauj ntawv hais txog dab tsi xwb. yog
hais txog ua ntsuag ciaj, kev sib ncaim, kev sib nco, kev sib tso, kev
khwv, kev txom nyem, kev tu siab, tsuav txiaj ntsim ces yeej tag nrho
kho kho lub me siab dhia yuj yees li. lub qeej no mas, raws li kuv
hnov hnov, yeej siv tau raws kev ras haiv lawm ntag. tiam si, tej yam
li raj nplaim no mas, ntau zaus yeej yog siv hais qhov "khua khua sab"
xwb.

zhen

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Sep 17, 2008, 9:22:15 PM9/17/08
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yaweh,

> however, cov laus (li koj txiv thiab kvu txiv), kuv yeej tsi pub kuv
> txiv mloog thiab tiag. vim tas cov laus, siab muag muag lawm, yim
> laus yim muaj kev tu siab..yim laus yim muaj kev kho siab, yim laus
> yim kua zuav...yog yuav ua li no ces (the belief is that), tus plig
> yuav muaj kev tu siab tu saus... tejzaum teebmeem yuav tshwm ces tshwm
> li no xwb.

koj hais yog lawm. vim zoo li koj hais kov kuv txiv thiaj li tsis pub
+ cia kuv yawg mus mus tim tej ntees lawm. ua tsuag.

kwv...@aol.com

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Sep 18, 2008, 8:20:08 AM9/18/08
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On Sep 17, 4:06 pm, phwvnyawm

> Ua cas koj yuav xav kom kuv tuag ua luaj maj...

haj...haj...haj... yawg phwvnyawm aw-- koj mas rho roob taus rau twb
tuag tsis tau os yawg. tos kuv nug koj li ntawd los kuv xav paub seb
nej cov mus ntseeg vajtswv lawm puas tseem ntshai ntxwg nyoog xwb.
kuv mam kuv ntseeg hais tias txawm mus pwv kiag ntawm plag rau lawv
taw kev thiab tshuab qeej tu siav rau kiag los yeej tsis lam tuag ib
zaug. kuv xav hais tias yog neeg tso nyiaj no peb cov tseem coj dab
yuav sib txheeb mus pw xwb lau. koj puas paub thaum ub muaj ib yawg
txiv neeb hmoob. nws ua neeb mas nws kom lawv muab nws kwv mus pw rau
hauv lub qhov ntxa ces nws mam rov sawv los ces lawv mam muab av npoog
rau. tus no ua neeb 1 thaj 1 choj nyiaj. nws yog ib tug neeg muaj
nyiaj heev thiab nyob tsis muaj mob muaj nkeeg kiag li hlo.

kwv...@aol.com

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Sep 18, 2008, 8:34:12 AM9/18/08
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phwvnyawm-- ntshe nej yog hmoob npab tawb paub yog li nas. hmoob npab
tawb ces hais li koj hais no tiag haj...haj...haj....

hais mas hais li ntawd os. peb cov hu nkauj niam no, mostly yog peb
cov to taub, peb tsis xa peb tus neeg tuag ntawd mus rau dab tuag teb
lawm. peb hu nkauj mas txwm xa peb hais li no.

1. ... yawg lem sib qas laus os ntag xib ntsug tuag los mus... nws
yuav nce li hlo los tsuj tag os vaj hmoob txoj kev av mus luaj zeb,
zaum no ces nws cev ntaj xib ntsug tuag los mus ces nws yuav ntim tau
lub cev txiaj zam qas li yeev yuav seev li yees rov los mus nrhiav nws
pog nws yawm lawm vaj hmoob ceeb tsheej teb lawm no sub... no.

2. nqe tom qab ces hais ib yam tsuas yog pauv ... los tsuj tag vaj
hmoob txoj kev av luaj dag... rov los mus lawv vaj hmoob ceeb tsheej
nrag... no xwb.

nej cov vajtswv mas nej xa nej cov tuag mus rau vajtswv ceeb tsheej
teb, tab sis peb mam peb xa peb cov mus rau vaj hmoob ceeb tsheej teb
nawb. lub no thiaj yog hmoob lub teb chaws ov haj...haj...haj....


tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 18, 2008, 11:11:04 AM9/18/08
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cov npawg..

nej tsi paub xwb os...kuv niag npawg phwvnyawm lam tias "lawb" dab no
xwb..temsis thaub ntawm, txawj ntau yam, tsi hais qhov tshiab qhov
qub. nws zoo li kuv cov niag txiv ntxawm, lawd lam tias coj kev cai
yexus no xwb, temsis tseem tshuab qeej, zaj tshoob, thiab lwm yam zoo
tshaj li cov uas tseem coj kevcai qub. hauv tsev mas qeej puv
tsev...txujci puav cev...nej xob lam tias cov no tsi paub dabtsi
lov...tsam nej twg kev....

kuv tus kheej os, xav xav li no, thiaj li muab "phaub ntawv" nyeem 2 3
lwm kom paub thiab...ua neej nyob, yim paub yim zoo xwb..tsi yog tias
yus tsi nyiam lawm es yuav tsi kawm...los yog tsi yog tias tsi yog yus
yam lawm es yus yuav tsi tshawb fawb txog...qhov no yuam kev loj.

yaweh

YT

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Sep 18, 2008, 11:14:16 AM9/18/08
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Lub suab raj nplaim, raj pum liv, thiab raj ntsaws mas kuv xav hais
tias zoo mloog heev. Tsis li lo qwv nplooj mas zoo mloog kawm kiag li
thiab. Peb Hmoob cov txuj ci no zoo muab coj los ua ib qho PHD lawm
no.

Thaum 80's muaj ib tug poj niam Asmesliskas dawb twb tau muab Hmoob
cov lus sib dhos los ua nws daim PHD. Cov lus xws li:

Pig Pog
Plig Plog
Pliv Ploov
Pig Pam
Tsij Tsuaj
Nkiaj Nkuaj
etc...

Txawm tsis yog koj kuv los yeej xav kom peb ib tug Hmoob tiag.

Peb Yog Hmoob,

Txawjvamyias

tsujsu...@hotmail.com

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Sep 18, 2008, 11:59:56 AM9/18/08
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Cia kuv mam qhia hmoob lees cov suab+ cov lus rau nej...(this does not
mean hmoob dawb tsi hais cov suab no)

1. lub suab no yog lub most popular among cov hmoob lees.....nyob rau
nplogteb. kuv hnov cov hmoob suav siv lub suab no thiab. yeej hais
similar to this too. lub suab no (not the words) is the most known
suab for hmong. tsi tag li, hmoob lees los cov lus ces yeej pib li no
thiab xwb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54aWNmEyH9Q

2. lub suab no yog lub suab nkauj moob lees #2. cov lus ces zoo li
#1, temsis lub suab ho txawv kiag lawm..muaj ntsiv zoo li qhuab
ke..temsis tsi yog thiab...lub suab no is believed to be the original
suab moob leeg...lub suab #1 mas, it is believed that cov moob leeg
lug "yoog/kawm" tau lub suab moob dlawb lawm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyQ5n32608&feature=related

3. lub suab no, ces yog lub suab #1 xwb...temsis cov lus pib txawv
lawm xwb....pib tias "npliag liag kab xi xiv"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOkfVsFGYJA&feature=related

kuv paub cov suab no xwb...kuv hnov tias muaj dua ib lub suab (cov
hmoob lees) mas tseem hais "lem" dua li lub suab #2 lawm
thiab...temsis kuv tsi tau hnov dua li.

yaweh

lom...@gmail.com

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On Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 11:38:01 AM UTC-7, Tzianeng Vang wrote:
> Kab ntsab ib tsoom npoj yaig SCHlers,
>
> Ntawm peb Hmoob lub noob neej li tej suab nquas suab hu no lub twg
> rhawv nej siab tshaj? Ntawm kuv ces yog muaj li nram no:
>
> 1. Suab raj nplaim
> 2. Npliaj mog siv saub, saub siv mog... (deserving of being Hmong
> national anthem melody)
> 3. Suab qeej
>
> Mam tos nej nquas nej li tuaj ntxiv...
>
> Ua tsaug!
>
> -Txiabneeb

Aob! bawg txiab neeb'es koj yog phaum neeg twg lawm maj cas koj ho nyiam zaj niag nkauj tuag los national anthem maj? Kuv mas xav kom tsis txhob muaj zaj neej saub sij lug ntawv nrov qhov twg li ntag hos.
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