Re: "Nej sib hlub nawj"

[Vaj Ncuab]

On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 9:51:13 AM UTC-6, minyuam...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thaum yawg hlob vaj pov yuav tuag, nws tau hais ib lo lus tseg tias, "cov mi nyuam, nej nyob no nej sib hlub nawj". Tab sis, vaj pov twb tsis txhais seb nws kom peb sib hlub li cas, los sis kom peb sib hlub ua dab tsis?
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> Puas yog vaj pov kom peb cov txiv neej sib hlub (gay)? Kom txiv neej hlub poj niam? Kom peb pab hlub nws poj niam nrog tsev neeg, etc?
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> Nws qhov meaning kom peb sib hlub yog dab tsis tiag tiag?
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> Los sis, puas yog vaj pov kom peb mus hlub cov me ntxhais tim nplog? Los kom peb hlub peb niam peb txiv? Los kom peb cov tus ntxhais mus hlub dub, dawb, thiab lwm haiv neeg?
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> Kuv saib mas, vaj pov twb tsis hlub peb haiv neeg hmoob li. Thaum nws ua neeg nyob, nws thiab nws qhab nab mas niaj xyoo tuaj mus sau sawv daws tej nyiaj SSI noj xwb.
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> Nws qhab nab mas, tsuas thov, "donation" thawm niaj thawm xyoo, thiab make broken promise rau cov laus tias, "yuav muab cov nyiaj mus pab peb hmoob; ua peb lub teb chaws, etc." Tab sis nws thiab nws qhab nab mas muab cov nyiaj coj mus ntxiag cov ntxhais mos mos xwb.
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> Yog vim li cas vaj pov ho tsis "practice" what he "preach" thaum nws tseem ua neeg nyob, es ho yuav kom peb practice what he wish to preach?
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> Kuv xav mas, vaj pab nrog nws tsev neeg twb tsis hlub peb hmoob li. Yog hlub tiag mas, nws yeej tsis khiav tuaj tim usa no? Yeej tsis tso sawv daws tseg rau nplog (yeej nyob and defend his people, ciaj thiab tuag los nws yeej nyob time nplog xwb), yeej tsis continuously ntxias cov laus tej nyiaj noj.
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> Hmm.....kuv tsis pom vaj pov tej kev hlub thaum nws ua neeg nyob li. Nej ho puas pom thiab?
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> Tsis tas li, ho muaj ib co neeg mus saib yawg lub ntxa, lawv muab nws lub ntxa tsuj tsuj, tsuj mus tsuj los, tsis thiab tsis khes li (tseem muab thaij rau tso tawm rau sawv daws saib thiab). Cuag li haiv hmoob twb tsis hlub vaj pov lawm, los sis lawv tuaj pauj kev chim siab.......
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> Your response....



Minyuag Hmoob;


Txawm yog 411 los yeej tso yas kom tau nyiaj, txawm yog Hmoob Tebchaws los yeej hais kom tau nyiaj, txawm yog Xf. Txawj Vaag Koos khab nab Church Kab ntsab los yeej hais koj tau nyiaj, txawm yog Cob Fab thiab Neo Hom los yeej hais kom tau nyiaj. Poj Koob Yawm Txwv (Vaj Lis Thum} lawv los yeej hais kom deev tau luag siab.

Naiphome Vaj Pov lub xeem muag "Nej Hmoob Yuav Tsum Sib Hlub" yog ib los lus zoo, yuav hais 100 zaus los zoo hais. Tseeb tiag Maj. Gen. Vang Pao cov thwjtim (cov nom tswv) yuav tsum yog cov coj thuav Maj. Gen. Vang Pao daim agenda mas thiaj yuav dhia tau luag tus hlob lub zeem muag. Ruaj siab rau koj tus kheej thiab rau koj tus Hmoob. Hmoob yuav ciaj HAIV yuav tsum yog Hmoob muaj VP lub zeem muag.

[khid...@gmail.com]

Corruptions for 40 yrs. forty yrs nothing for Hmong community.
GVP tsis muaj zeem muag dab tsi pub rau Hmoob.

Leej twg tseem khaws GVP tej duab ces Npau suav phem hos

[Vaj Ncuab]

On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 8:09:16 PM UTC-6, minyuam...@gmail.com wrote:
> VAj Ncuab,
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> Ib sim neej kuv tsis tau hnov VP tham txog nws lus zeem muag li.
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> Ib tug neeg uas twb tag sim neej lawm, yuav ua ca paub tias nws muaj ib lub zeem muag rau peb haiv hmoob?
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> Koj xav li cas txog qhov no: Peb tsis txhob khes khes txog VP lub zeem muag (vim nws twb tsis muaj zeem muag rau peb hnov, saib, los pom, thaum nws ua neeg nyob).
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> Qhov kuv xav hnov yog koj lub zeem muag xwb. Vaj Ncuab, koj puas muaj zeem muag rau peb haiv hmoob?
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> 1. Koj xav li cas txog tej hluas hmoob xaj maim no (lawv tsis quav ntsej hmoob tej culture, believe, or values?)
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> 2. Peb hmoob puas tsim nyog yuav los sib koom tes? Los sis yuav ua cas sawv daws thiaj li sib koom tes?
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> 3. Koj txoj kev pom ntawv pawg 2nd and 3rd generation Hmong, compare to 1st generation hmoob ne, ho zoo li cas xwb? Ua li ne, pawg 4th generation Hmong American ne? (koj piav seb koj ho pom cov Hmong generation gaps and conflict zoo li cas xwb?
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> Piav koj lub zeem muag ntawm peb haiv hmoob seb...

Kwvntxawg Minyuam Hmoob;


August 28, 1963 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. hais lus nyob Tuam Ceeb Washington DC mas muaj ib los lus nws hais yog "I have a Dream", Dr. Martin Luther King tus npaus suav yog li no:

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.
And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2
This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.
With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.
And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:
My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.
Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,
From every mountainside, let freedom ring!
And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

Yes, Dr. Martin Luther King lub zeem muag yeej zoo, cawm tau thiab tso tau ntaus Million tus tibneeg uas raug xaiv ntsej xaiv muag (Racism). Txawm li ntawd los cov Dub tseem raug teebmeem ua ntuv zus, lub week no cov Dub nyob Chicago tseem tawm tsam qhov ua Tub Ceev Xwm tua tug tub hluas Dub (Laguan Mcdonold).


Former Maj. Gen. Vang Pao lub zeem muag yeej zoo, yog koj, kuv, thiab tag peb cov Hmoob koom tes thiab ua mas ntseeg tias Hmoob yuav dhau mus ib kauj ruam. Txawm yog koj tsis pom luag tus hlob hlub leej twg los ua lub siab loj thiab koj yog tus yuav hlub ntag. Yog koj hlub Hmoob lawm yuav ua example rau Hmoob xyaum thiab koj yuav yog Hmoob tus Phaj Ej lawm yav tom ntej.

[Vaj Ncuab]

On Friday, November 27, 2015 at 8:09:16 PM UTC-6, minyuam...@gmail.com wrote:
> VAj Ncuab,
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> Ib sim neej kuv tsis tau hnov VP tham txog nws lus zeem muag li.
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> Ib tug neeg uas twb tag sim neej lawm, yuav ua ca paub tias nws muaj ib lub zeem muag rau peb haiv hmoob?
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> Koj xav li cas txog qhov no: Peb tsis txhob khes khes txog VP lub zeem muag (vim nws twb tsis muaj zeem muag rau peb hnov, saib, los pom, thaum nws ua neeg nyob).
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> Qhov kuv xav hnov yog koj lub zeem muag xwb. Vaj Ncuab, koj puas muaj zeem muag rau peb haiv hmoob?
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> 1. Koj xav li cas txog tej hluas hmoob xaj maim no (lawv tsis quav ntsej hmoob tej culture, believe, or values?)
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> 2. Peb hmoob puas tsim nyog yuav los sib koom tes? Los sis yuav ua cas sawv daws thiaj li sib koom tes?
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> 3. Koj txoj kev pom ntawv pawg 2nd and 3rd generation Hmong, compare to 1st generation hmoob ne, ho zoo li cas xwb? Ua li ne, pawg 4th generation Hmong American ne? (koj piav seb koj ho pom cov Hmong generation gaps and conflict zoo li cas xwb?
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> Piav koj lub zeem muag ntawm peb haiv hmoob seb...
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> On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 12:58:41 PM UTC-6, Vaj Ncuab wrote:

Kwvntxawg Minyuam Hmoob:


Kuv thov teb koj cov lus nug li nram qab no:

1. Cov hluas Hmoob tiam no (Xaj maim no) lawv yeej tsis kawm thiab tsis khaws Hmoob tej kab lis kev cai (Culture) tiag, tabsi peb cov thawjcoj, cov ua niam ua txiv yuav tau kom lawv kawm, kawm yam zoo thiab khaws yam zoo. Koj twb paub lawm hais tias qhov uas Hmoob tig xa Hmoob cov menyuam mus kawm cov Chapter School yog vim lawv xav kom paub Hmoob Culture, paub lus Hmoob ntag.

2. Kev koom tes. Hmoob yuav ciaj haiv, nyob tau ua ib pab koom tau ua ib pawg zoo li luag lwm haiv neeg mas Hmoob txhua tug yuav tsum muaj kev koom tes. Vim tsis muaj kev koom tes, nyob tsis tau ua pab ua pawg es kub xaj los thiaj tsis tau. Txawm yog tib pab neeg xwb los tseem sib tog li Hmong 18 Council & Hmong International New Year, Lao Veteran & SGU, and Lao Family Community & Lao Family Foundation.

3. Cov menyuam Hmoob generation tom ntej (Hmong American) yuav hloov ntaus yam, tabsi lawv yuav khaws thiab ceev yam zoo. Vim lawv txawj lawv ntse lawm. Yeej yuav muaj gaps thiab conflict nruab nrab ntawm cov laus (Lao Hmong American) & American Hmong). But, lawv yuav hloov yam zoo. Example: kuv txiv tuag last year (December 2014) peb pam tag lawm $72,000 rau kuv txiv lub ntees. Kuv tus tub (my son) hais tias yog kuv tuag mas nws ua ua kevcai sai li sai ntaus lawm xwb, nws tsis nyiam ua li nws yawg zaj.

[khid...@gmail.com]

Dr . Martin Luther King Lub zeem muag zoo twb muaj thaum tseem txoj sia.

GVP tsis muaj zeem muag zoo thaum thaum tseem muaj sia. Sau tau nyiaj ntau ntawm Hmoob coj mus casino xwb es no yog lub zeem muag no los?
Tiam 21 lawm koj xeem no ces qhuas ciaj qhuas tuag.....
40 yrs he's done nothing for Hmong community.

Kuv ntseeg koj lub zeem muag, but not him.

[donyhm...@gmail.com]

Khid,

You need not to follow GVP vision. What you need to do is come up with your Clean and Clear Vision and lead us where the Hmong will be prosperous. What you need not to do is Criticism and Criticism but doing nothing.
Dony

[donyhm...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 10:30:20 PM UTC-8, minyuam...@gmail.com wrote:
> Dony,
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> I have a vision for us Hmong people, but I fear the vision I have, us Hmong will not be able to accomplished.
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> I have a vision that Hmong "sib hlub", "sib pab", thiab "sib txhawb xwb". I wish that all Hmong could come to an understanding of each others.
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> I felt that Hmong nowadays are attempting to separate from one-another. Koj muaj los koj tsis k kuv, koj txawj los koj tsis tig los pab cov ruam, es nyias nti nyias kaub kuab lawm xwb. Cov ruam quaj los tsis muaj neeg pom, cov ruam tuag los tsis muaj neeg tuaj xauj. Muaj ib tug puv 120 xyoo, tsuas yog tsev neeg thiab tug puav phooj tuaj saiv lawm xwb. Sawv daws tuaj noj, tuaj haus, tsis cev ib duas pab xyom cuab li yav tas los.

Menyuam,

Txij thaum peb khiav teb chaws Laos tuaj ces pebyeej poob raws li koj hais tiag. Ib leeg yeej tsis yuav ib leeg hais. Therefore, we should not blame GVP or anyone for our failure. Anyway, I see that our Hmong people are moving forward since we have landed in this country. We should be proud of our success. Hais txog kev koom tes ua ib pab ib pawg ces yeej yuav ploj zuj zus mus. We are more individualistic. Dony

[koj...@gmail.com]

VajNcuab,

Kuv tham ib lo rau koj ua bawg, Koj yeej siv peevxwm los tshawb fawb ntau qhov keebkwm tuaj tham qhia peb, peb khaws dawb tau kawm xwb, muaj lus uatsaug ntau.

Tshuav qee qhov, xav kom koj ua bawg xyuas zoo xyuas tseeb, Kuj tsis muaj baum koj hais thiab, ua zoo xyuas es koj cov lus hais thiaj txhawb koj. Xav kom koj cov lus hais tawm muaj tsoomthawj(creditable).

Ntawm cov pab pawg ua fai kumxeeb kubxaj, ntawm cov koomhaum, koomtsishaum, txhua pab pawg, pab siv nyiaj licas los muaj, pab siv rau tej tseemceeb los muaj. Yus tus tsis ua ces yijmeem soj ntsuam tseeb, pab txaus qhuas yov tau qhuas, pab txaus thuam los thuam tau los ntawm qhov yus paub tseeb.

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[Vaj Ncuab]

On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 2:04:08 AM UTC-6, minyuam...@gmail.com wrote:
> Txiv Ntxawm Vaj Ncuab 5,
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> Koj txhob xav dab tsis ntau ntau txog qhov X Z hais ntawv. Txhua yam koj hais yeej yog lawm, thiab hais muaj tsoomthawj kawg.
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> Kuv thov qhuas koj heev. Kuv xav tias tsuas yog koj thiaj li yog peb hmoob ib tug HISTORIAN uas muaj tsoomthawj lawm xwb.
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> Kuv thov qhuas koj qhov deep knowledge in regarding to Hmong history.

Minyuam Hmoob;



Tej zaum Xav Zoo yuav ntsawv siab txog ntawm qhov ua kuv teb koj txog koj nqe lus nug (Hmoob puas muaj kev koom tes?). Yes, yog xav kom ciaj haiv ces Hmoob yuav tsum muaj kev koom tes, cov boards hauv Lao Family Community thiab Lao Family Foundation yog tib pab neeg, leej twg los yeej muab yawgloj (Maj. Gen. Vang Pao) lub npe tua, ua cas thiab tsis sib haum? Ua cas thiaj sib foob?

FBI tso hem thawj xwb es Hmoob Teb Chaws suab twb ntsiag cuag Suav txo yias lawm. Yog Hmoob Tebchaws function raws Federal cov Code, tsis dag, tsis noj leej twg nyiaj thiab xav kom muaj HAIV tiag tsis ntshai leej twg kiag, leej twg yuav khi yeej meem cev tes rau khi ntag. 2016 mas Hmoob Teb Chaws yuav tsum muaj Kwv Lijchoj nrog nraim, tham raws cai, ua raws code. Yog Tseemfwv Obama tsis txaus siab yeej meem taug kev Fresno tuaj mus rau Washington DC, tuaj mus tham tej ua Hmoob raug tua zoo li tej tsiaj rau luag mloog. Txojcai nyob rooj teb no yog luag ua tsis haum yus siab, yus muaj cai foob thiab twv rau nom rau tswv. Yog FBI nyuam qhov hais li ntawd xwb es Hmoob Tebchaws twb ntshai lawm ces kam tebchaws yuav tsis muaj.

Kev tawg pab tawg pawg, kev sib ceeb nyeej, koj txo kuv kuv txo koj, ntshaws meej mom, ntshaws nyiaj yuav coj tsis tau Hmoob mus ciaj haiv thiab Hmoob yuav ciaj tsis tau haiv rau lub sijhawm no.

[koj...@gmail.com]

Vajncuab,

Khwvyees yuam kev zog lawm os, kuv tsis taau ntsawv siab txog qhov koj hais. Kuv twb hais zoo zoo ne: tias koj ib txwm tshawb qhov tseeb los hais xwb, yov tau xyuas tseeb tseeb mam hais thiaj ua rau koj cov lus muaj tsoom thawj.

Phua ntsiab rau koj mas, ntawm txhua pab koj tau hais tias lawv ua noj nyiaj. Koj xyuas kom tseeb tshaj ntxiv xwb, vim ib txhia lawv tsis tau ua noj nyiaj, koj hais tias lawv ua noj nyiaj ces koj nqe lus twb tsis 100% muaj tsoom thawj lawm. Yeej pom koj tus txiajntssim tuaj tham qhia rau peb sawvdaws kawm, tabsis thaum pom qhov koj hais tsis tseeb hamtsis yov tau nto rau koj mloog. Txij no mus koj ntom tshaj qub lawm mas, txaus siab nawb.

FBI txawm caum leej twg los xij, nws yog kev kawm rau peb Hmoob xwb txhob nyhav siab.

Hmoob los txhob ncauj liab liab thiab ma, Hmoob txhob siab phem li koj hais ces luag nim yov tuaj caum leejtwg na. Txhua zaus luag tuaj caum,twb yog yus cov Hmoob xwb tim tshum rau luag kom luag caum ne.

Peb Hmoob ntse sab hniav los sab qwb ne, Peb ntse tog ko los ntse tog hniav, cas yuav hlais tes ualuaj li tiag.

X Z

[koj...@gmail.com]

minyuam,

Ntawm kuv ces ib yam li koj xwb thiab nawb, yeej tsis nkag siab tias tej yam dhuav dhuav neeg los pheej ua tsis paub tsum li.

Kuj tsis yog yus lub luag txwv leejtwg, tabsis xav kom tus neeg thov los thov rau qhov txiajntsim zoo, tus neeg muab los muab pab rau qhov cawm tso yus Haivneeg. Nyias mam ntsuas nyias tus kheej.

Tej neeg sib txeeb koomhaum, sib txeeb ua Pebcaug thiab tshav ncaws pob, yeej yog kev khwv nyiaj nkaus xwb. Nyiaj txiag ua rau sawvdaws sib tawg sib ntxub. Muaj ntau tham tsis tas, tabsis sawvdaws yeej paub txhua. Peb cov tau nyeem thiab tau timxyeej luag txhob ua tej fai dhuav dhuav neeg nawb.

Nyias kos nyias tus duab rau neeg saib nkaws xwb, txhob nyhav nyhav siab.

X Z



> Xav hnug neb txog cov hmoob california niaj hnub niam no. Neb xav li cas xwb, hais txog qhov uas zoo li lawv pheej muab yawg hlob lub npe coj mus muag noj mus haus, thawm niaj thawm xyoo. Zoo li lawv tsis muaj hauj lwm (real job), es tsuas xav tswv yim kom tau nyiaj los ntawm hmoob xwb.
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> For example # 1: Muaj ib yawg pheej nqa ib co pin, uas muaj yawg hlob lub npe tuaj kom sawv daws ib leeg donate $20.00?
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> For example # 2: Muaj ib yawg pheej kom sawv daws pab donate me ntsis yog hais tias lawv xav tau yawg hlob lub button?
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> For example # 3: Muaj ib yawg pheej mus thov kom neeg pab donate me ntsis coj los ua/kho yawg hlob tus pej thuam?
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> Cov no puas tsim nyob cov laus yuav tau donate nyiaj rau thiab? Zoo li nyiaj donate rau ces nkag yawg hnab kaus paus lawm xwb....
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> Es yuav yog thaum twg lawv mam tsum txoj kev thov donations los ntawm peb haiv neeg hmoob uas ruam ruam na?
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