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Poj koob yawm ntxwv, a new Hmong religious cult???

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cwjmem

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Oct 5, 2011, 12:16:54 AM10/5/11
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their secretary is pretty. I am not sure her look can buy Hmong's
interest!!!

http://www.hmoobntxwj.org/#!state-board

DownUnder

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Oct 6, 2011, 5:55:10 AM10/6/11
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Hmong have been able to survive for 5000 years , doing those simple
things that our ancestor are doing.

Even I was surprise to read Savina's comment when he listed those
simple things that the Hmong have and practicing that, as he believed,
contribute to the Hmong survival for that past 5000 years.

Again... think of Txiv Plig Nyiaj Pov - Father Bertrais) who's mission
is to convert the Hmong to Christianity but at the end he become the
convertee to be Hmong! ... Hence, he spent his last surviving years,
not preaching or converting Hmong to Xtian, but to tell the Hmong to
HOLD ON what the Hmong HAVE in the first place.

May be... there is a MESSAGE somewhere there..??? So... something, if
it ain't broken, no need to fix it!!

DU

ps. cwjmem... where are you going to join my club?? May be it it is
TIME!

Tony

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Oct 6, 2011, 12:50:40 PM10/6/11
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Based on what was said, the ritual did not matter to him. It was just
a tradition. Tradition is not a religion. If I remembered it
correctly, everything goes except laig nwg moog cuag puj yawm xwb.
Where is puj yawm?

cwjmem

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Oct 6, 2011, 2:07:45 PM10/6/11
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Kuv Yawm Txiv nai kong Xyooj Pov Lis ua nrog Txiv Plig Nyiaj Pov sau
phau ntawv "Kab Kev Pam tuag" nyob rau Cacao, yog cov mus pam tus txiv
plig no nyob rau Fakis teb. Lawv tau mus laig, taw kev mus kom txawg
poj yawg, tshuab qeej tu siav, qeej tsa nee, thiab qeej sawv kev, ua
raws nkaus li poj ua tseg yawm ua cia rau tus txiv plig nyiaj pov no
ntag. Laig pluas tshais, su, thiab hmo rau tus txiv plig no kawm nws
noj tsis tau los muaj ntim rau nraub taub, haus tsis tau los muab hliv
rau hauv lam hwj, nqa mus pub rau poj rau yawm (gift to the ancestor
"god").

DU,

Tam sim no kuv tseem tab tom yog tus candidate los koom nrog koj lub
club ntag. Yig kawg li, tab sis cov nyuag DAJ HAU ntawm tsis tso yus
tseg li. Lawv yog cov pom dav los xaiv yus lawm ces, kawg yuav tau
los nkag koj khanab nawb. Tsis tag li ntawm, kuv tsev neeg los tseem
muaj txog 5-6 tus were selected by the higher up there. Lawv los yig
kawg li, ib cov ces twb raug xaiv tau muaj li 10 tawm xyoo no lawm,
mob mob ces, yam li lawv los lees lawm. Kuv xav hais tias, tsis ntev
no, peb cov nyob rau sab ntuj, lub club no yuav loj zuj zus lawm.

Tony

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Oct 8, 2011, 8:13:26 AM10/8/11
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Ntawd yog has txawv le ua, hab ua txawv le has. Txiv nplig nyaj pov
ntseeg hastas nwg txuj kevntseeg coj nwg moog Heaven. Tug
ntxheejtxheem kws laig ntawd tsi tseemceeb rua huv nwg txuj
kevntseeg. Rua ntawm Moob txuj kev coj rua sau neej (tradition) yeej
tsimnyog nkaws lawm. (Qhov tseeb - peb cais tsi tau kev teevtam hab
nkevntseeg). Lawv le kawm hab taug txug cov tawv dlawb txuj kev
ntseeg hab lub neej ib txawm coj (tradition), ib cov yeej cais meej,
kevntseeg yog kev ntseeg, kev coj (culture) yog kev coj thaus tseem ua
neej.
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