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That publication, in Britain, is a tabloid so THIS PARTICULAR case may or may not be true.
What we know in general, however, is that THAT GOES ON ALL THE TIME in the Hmong community, here in the West, and in Asia.
You can physically remove the person from tribalism and other primitive circumstances; but you can't remove the mind-set (some kind of a magical, psychological chain) which the person and his tribe carry, with pride...
After all, as the elders like Dr. Pao, our parents, shaman, cov Hmoob Nom Hmoob tswv, cov neeg ntse, cov neeg coj noj coj ua hais: "That's how OUR TRADITION WORKS!"
I'd take that pseudo argument more seriously when I started seeing these "traditional" Hmong popping up here and there, walking BAREFOOT, using no iPhones or any other gadgets, walk from one city to the next, using the paved roads but no cars, wearing Hmong ris tsho (like I do often times, both in the home and in stores in the neighborhood), etc.
I said the same shit to these conservative Christians and Muslims: if you truly want to practice "authentic" Christian and Islamic traditions, like they're practiced during Jesus and Mohammed's times, 1st-2nd centuries and 6th-8th centuries, respectively, I should better start seeing people walking in barefoot or sandals instead of using no cell phones, no Mercedes Benz, BMWs, Lexus, etc.
Tribal people or people with primitive tribal disposition --- rich or poor, educated or not --- who seek to return to the past, some imaginary past they say was better than the present, was more moral and ethical than the present, some past with better laws, better politicians and elders and leaders, with people who really KNEW DEEP STUFF and knew them deeply, a knowledge based on holy and divine figures, etc......... IT IS THE SAME NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO...
Whether it is with the Hmong, those living in the Amazon or Congo rainforests, those living among ISIS and Al Qaida in the Middle East, those living in Saudi Arabia, those carrying their holy Velveteen Rabbit books which purports to SHOW how their imaginary Man from Beyond the Oort Cloud waved his magic wand, or simply THOUGHT IN HIS BIG HEAD, with the universe and trees and mountains and oceans and whales and humans popping out of thin, oxygen and nitrogen air molecules.... THEY ALL USE THE SAME PRIMITIVE NONSENSE ARGUMENTS...
Anyway, this is what happens when a person, and a tribe and a people ---- big and small, formally educated in the arts of reading, writing, and mathematics or not --- have no shame, have no sense of past and present and future... have no sense of moral and ethical development .... They always IMAGINE they had a more glorious and better past where people lived longer, healthier, and more moral ethical lives, etc.
This is what happens when a person and a tribe and a people refuse to climb the fence, the tree, the mount, and the mountain .... to look AS FAR INTO THE DISTANCE AS POSSIBLE... to see if better ways of living and doing things have or not have been developed among other tribes and people.... and see if THEY TOO COULD EMULATE, so they don't have to spend endless generations JUST TO DEVELOP only the most rudimentary PLOW, even when the PLOW had already been invented by others, for THOUSANDS of years,... when many more efficient models had already been developed and SUCH ADVANCEMENTS had already made the people who such modifications rich, affluent, educated, and far better off....