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Pab "Poj Koob Yawm Ntxwv" lub tswv yim

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cwjmem

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:01:43 AM3/18/11
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Nej xav li cas? Puas yog ib lub church tshiab, Hmong temple is tau
hnov txog ho li raws li keeb kwm Hmoob!! Puas muaj leej twg los sau
ib phau "poj koob yawm ntxwv lus kub /bible" los qhia Hmoob nev!!

http://www.pojkoobyawmntxwv.org/thajuaneej.htm

Background

For generations Hmong uses oral tradition to pass on knowledge. The
knowledge is altered based on the cleverness of the individual and the
environment in which one lives. There has always a sense of reviving
the divined knowledge through prophecies over the years when the
knowledge was lost, forgotten, altered, or need an upgrade to fit the
new era, but most of the previous prophets were illiterate and left
very little behind. Thanks to modernization, written languages were
introduced to the Hmong and many knowledge are recently recorded.

Today PKYN’s Book of Origin, the Ceremonial Rites, and the Principle
Foundation are carefully recorded, and evaluated to implement in
today’s world. The book explains many key features the younger
generations do not quite get the answers to why things were always
done this way. Hmong has always practiced rituals in their own homes
as family affairs. There was not any place of worship to provide
hopes, teach the the principle foundation, and practice cultural rites
to a larger scale. The principle foundation was, instead of teaching,
embedded into riddles, poetries, story clothes, folklores, clothes,
and other means. Coming to industrial countries like the USA, shamans
and prophets are slowly loosing grounds due to economical life
changing situations, public health issues and the interest levels of
the younger generations.

PKYN pledges to bring forward the Book of Origin, the Alter of Life,
the Temple, and the Principle Foundation to help meet these needs.

The Temple

The temple is a sacred location where all members gather to pray for
the individuals’ spiritual rejuvenation, and to perform ceremonies
that help strengthen the lives of the living. It is served as a hub
for individuals moving toward equality, peace, and harmony. Similar
to a mother who protects and teaches her children to be good, the
temple is a place of belonging, hope and support, and eye-opening to
be reborn on becoming a good citizen.

The Alter of Life

The Alter of Life is a physical representation of the spiritual realm
that the Hmong uses for connecting to the spiritual being, and to
God. It is the central focus in which all member comes to pay
respect, asks for forgiveness, and praises to the Lord. All rituals
are performed before the alter. Preferably the principle foundation
should be taught before the alter as well. The Alter of Life is full
of items

that symbolize equality and justice, grace and gateways, knowledge and
power, and spiritual and physical.

The Principle Foundation

The Principle Foundation emphasis on self understanding of life
forces. To have a gasp of the world that we live in, one must
understands the values of one’s self, one’s family, one’s local
community, and the wider and more diverse communities. To build a
good and a healthy relationship require the understanding of self
disciplinary management toward self-governance and understanding the
surrounding environments. To understand the forces of nature, one
must be able to understand the circle of being and of nature, and the
paths that each circle travels on.

When one understands the Principle Foundation, one would be able to
realize peace and justice within oneself, among another, and with
God. The consumed knowledge along with modernization will serve as a
strong foundation toward minimizing today personal and social issues.
One will be able to understand why Hmong performs certain rituals
certain ways and be proud of.

Ultimately, one will understand the bold statements PKYN pledges to
modernize the Hmong religion, culture, ceremonial rites, and principle
foundation and yet preserves each elements in its original form.

The Book of Origin

The Book of Origin serves as the footprint toward harmony. In PKYN’s
context it serves as the spiritual strength, that helps support the
physical being. The book is divided into four main sections: the
origin, brief historical events, ceremonial rites, and the principle
foundation.

The origin lays out the elements and the functions of those elements.
It further lays out the types of worlds, times and seasons, circle of
human spirits, and equality and role of gender. Historical events
highlights from ancient time to modern time, which reveals the Hmong
journey through times of success and hardships. Ceremonial rites such
as the Hmong New Year, Naming a New Born Child, Marriage, Funeral and
a few others, are the cornerstones of the major events that shaped the
Hmong’s lives and rituals.

samphong

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:53:01 AM3/18/11
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It seems a team of people (below) have put a lot of time and thought
(well intentioned, I'm sure) into this new Hmong religion: A strange,
if not contradictory (and depending on how you look at it), quite a
blasphemous blend of Hmong ancestral worship with a Christian God
looking on.

http://www.pojkoobyawmntxwv.org/contact.htm

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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Mar 18, 2011, 8:40:15 AM3/18/11
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On Mar 18, 12:01 am, cwjmem <cwj...@hotmail.com> wrote:


Kwv Cwjmem,

Lawv pab no tau muab Jesus phau Bible coj los ntxeev tig thiab ntxiv
Hmoob li ib cov rau hauv los ua Hmoob Bible pawg tshiab, ua Hmoob
ntiag tus. Lawv pab no coj tus yam ntxwv kev pe hawm ntuj ua tsi txawv
Christan pes tsawg, lawv mus Church hnub SUNDAY tib yam nkaus. Lawv
muab Christan li ntxeev hais ua rau Hmoob tug, ib tus member twg yuav
tsum tso nyiaj ib hlis $50.00 li no mas lawv thiaj li yuav qhia rau
koj lub paus txog lub ntsis. Yog leej twg tsi mus nrog ua member ua
lawv neeg, lawv tsuas piav me me ntawm hauv paus theem ib xwb no tam
li lawv piav rau ub rau no yus hnov, yog tias ua lawv neeg lawm mas
lawv yuav piav txog theem 4 kom txog qhov xaus.

Lawv teeb ib lub thaj ua neeb muaj twj neeb tiav log, kuv tau mus
xyuas lawv lub thaj ua neeb tib si, lawv tsuas muab lub thaj coj los
ua piv txwv rau sawv daws ntsia xwb, lawv tsi txawj ua neeb, ceev faj
nawb pab no yog lawv dag noj dag haus lawm ntag ov pab no naj.

YTK

cwjmem

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Mar 18, 2011, 1:10:19 PM3/18/11
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Yawg Tshaj,

Kuv teev ntuj nyob rau Ntiaj teb no, thaum pib yeej tsis muaj ib lub
tsev teev ntuj li. Tom qab no, cov neeg ntseeg mam li muab av, tooj,
hlau los puab/ncuav ua mlom los hawm xwb. Jesus, Buddha, Mohamad etc.

Kuv ntseeg ntuj, peb yuav tau tawm hauv tsev mus hu ntuj, tim tswv teb
chaws alwv thiaj li los nrog yus pom. Hauv tsev yog yuv los teev yuav
poj yawm, qhua neeb yaig.

Hmoob yeej ua raws li poj ua tseg yawm ua cia. Thaum twg yuav thov
luag pab (dab zoo), zoo mam pauj.

Cov neeg ua ua tsev teev ntuj ntawm yog ua tsev teev dag nyiaj noj
nyiaj haus xwb. Tswv ntuj, tswv teb tswv chaw lawv yeej muaj lawv vaj
lawv tsev nyob, lawv yuav tsis nyob rau hauv lub chaw teev ntuj ua
neeg ua los NTXIAS nyiaj ntawm

Yog yua qhia, yuav tau los ua ib lub tsev kawm ntawv. Qhia kom neeg
sib haum xeeb. Pog Poj Koob yawm Ntxwv no ua mas yog pab neeg DAG NOJ
DAG HAUS xwb.

rua...@hotmail.com

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Mar 18, 2011, 3:55:04 PM3/18/11
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Sawv daws cov mus Christian los twb tso nyiaj. Cov Buddhist los twb
muab mov thiab zaub noj pub hauj sam thiab. Puas yog niam no "ntuj
lub ceeb tsheej" poob los qe qe li lawm nid?

Niam no txog caij peb Hmoob thib siv tswv yim lawm laud. Xav thov kom
pab no mus us missionary rau tim Suav Teb, Nplog Teb, Thaib Teb, thiab
tim teb chaw middle east es kom lawv ho tau noj tau haus thiab lauj.

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tvue...@gmail.com

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Dec 28, 2014, 1:27:48 AM12/28/14
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Cov nyuag nov ces tshuj khib tsis qab ntsev lawm es lam los ua li ub li no kom tas lawv txoj yawg xwb,, qhov tseem ceeb tshaj plaws tus tswv ntawd lub neej tsis muaj koob nto moo deev luag poj luag sev keeb kwm ntawm tus vaj lis thus , na..tus yawg no ntag yog tus uas los rhuav tshem Hmoob cais Hmoob kom tawg ua sab ua sua. cov poj niam uas yog lawv pawg ntseeg puav leej yog nws tug huv tib si.

cher...@gmail.com

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Dec 28, 2014, 11:20:59 AM12/28/14
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TIM MESKAS no yeej muaj FREEDOM kev NTSEEG. KUV YUAV NTSEEG ib tug DEV MUB xwb los yog kuv hauj lwm IB TUG yuav ntseeg CATHOKIC, CHRITIAN,MORMOM,JAHOVA, hom twg los NYOB NTAWM NYIAM..KUV LAM NTSEEG kuv hom xwb tau lawm.SCIENCE& MATH. muaj mob ces 911 tau $ ces tgem TAX. yog khosiab ces mus RENO los yog nram MEV. NOJ CARP/BUFFALO tas ces HAUS BEER HOM DUB TSHAJ PLAWS YOG #1 TSHAJ. THAUM I kuv noj QAIB DUB NQAIJ mas QAIB #1 tabsis kuv poj niam mus tua tau 6-7 tus los kuv pom tas kuv TSA CHIJ DAWB 5 NOJ QAIB DUB NQAIJ LAWM. hom QAIB no mas DUB TXHUA2 YAM LOJ XOV DUB PLAB NYHUV, POB TXHA los DUB tib si. poj niam coj los PHAIS2 tas kuv tias KOJ mus TXHOM tus nyuam KHEJDUB tid los PHAIS SEB PUAS DUB PLAB NYUV,mus thoob plaws cov POB TXHA TIBSI YOM. MUAB SAIB2 cov QAIB ntawd zoo li noj 5 tas muab pov 6 ub 6 no tsam no ntshe PUAG TOM LAND FILL LAWM.

AEON

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Dec 28, 2014, 11:48:31 PM12/28/14
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Has li ko Mas nws kuj zoo nraug heel cover maum to qab Yeem deep nws taste nrho na. Yog tseeb txhob txhawj ntuj pub 1 home xwb yog nws zoo nr as ug tau deep txhua tus ces hmoob taste li lawmakers xwb lwm yam ces this us xab nyiam that law xwb. Lfwm tus Mas 5 nyiM lawm. Koj pub li puts yog Koj mu as j tus t heeb2 ze2 twb ntsib nws deep la we m pob?

AEON

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Dec 28, 2014, 11:55:40 PM12/28/14
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Oops! Tablet post Mas error pawg lug

cher...@gmail.com

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Dec 29, 2014, 12:53:49 AM12/29/14
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On Sunday, December 28, 2014 10:48:31 PM UTC-6, AEON wrote:
> Has li ko Mas nws kuj zoo nraug heel cover maum to qab Yeem deep nws taste nrho na. Yog tseeb txhob txhawj ntuj pub 1 home xwb yog nws zoo nr as ug tau deep txhua tus ces hmoob taste li lawmakers xwb lwm yam ces this us xab nyiam that law xwb. Lfwm tus Mas 5 nyiM lawm. Koj pub li puts yog Koj mu as j tus t heeb2 ze2 twb ntsib nws deep la we m pob?

HMOOB 5 DOG DIG TXOJ KEV CHIM li OV. TIM VIBNAI TWB 5 MUAJ PHOM HMOOB TWB NYIAG NYAS TUA TUS HMOOB NTXUB2. IB CASE NROV TSHAJ YOG HMOOB XUAS TES THOOB NKAUG. SIAV RIAM los hlau me2 tsawg2 ces HMOOB SIV HOM THOOB DAWB UAS YOG XAMKABXIM UAS TUS TES YOG HLAU LUAJ NTIV TES. HMOOB MUAB NYOM2 KOM NCAJ2 muaj RAUJ KHOB KOM IB TOG me2 ntse2 nqa mus ZOV thaum LIG ZOG HNUB POOB HMOOB TUS NWS CHIM TXAWM MUS DA DEJ NRAUM TOG TSEV vibnais lub neej 5 zoo li MESKAS da dej hauv tsev. TUBSAB CIA MUS SAIB ZE2 thaum tus VICTIM TABTOM MUAB XAB BUM ZAWV 4HAU PLEEV LOS 6 NTSEJ MUAG THIAB CAJ DAB TUS VICTIM QE MUAG 5 KOM XAB BUS TXHOB NKAG QHOV MUAG. TUB SAB CIA NQA NWS TUS TES THOOB MUS TWB TUS VICTIM HAUV SIAB TSOM KOM NCAJ2 PLAWV IB ZOG TASMAV TSIJ TU VICTIM TWB QW 5 TAUS 1 SUAB TWB NTOG LAWM nws poj niam pom vau mam qw neeg tuaj SAIB TUS VICTIM TWB BYE2 tub sab ces PLOJ LAWM NTEV. CASE no ua 6 HMOOB CEEB TAS tias TXHOB SIAB PHEM2 TSAM HMOOB NPAU TUAJ CHIMSIAB HMOOB NQA TES THOOB MUS PUB KIAG 6.HOM NO SECRET NTSIAGTO 5 NROV LI PHOM. TUBSAB MUAB PUB KIAG 6 TUS VICTIM tub sab mus tsev lawm ntxov neeg mam pom victim ces tubsab nyob XABBAIS TIM TSEV LAWM lwm hmo mam li tuaj ua PHAIB ZOV TAV NYUJ.

YOG TUS KOJ PIAV HAUV LUB TEMPKE/CHURCH DEEV HMOOB POJ NIAM MAS 5 KAV NTEV LI KAWG TUAG 6 HMOOB TES. SAIB SEB DAVID KORESH NRAM WACO TEXAS KAV NTEV li cas xwb na? HOM DEEV LWM TUS NEEG TUS HONEY YOG YAM KHIB ANIMAL TSHAJ TSHIAJ YEEJ YUAV NTSUB2 MUS TUA NRAU KOM NTOG.

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Dec 29, 2014, 5:58:44 PM12/29/14
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bawg Cwjmem,


Ua caag es koj twb tuaj nyob rooj teb nuav ze le ntawd 40 xyoo, koj tseem has lug le kos hab (Cov neeg ua ua tsev teev ntuj ntawm yog ua tsev teev dag nyiaj noj
nyiaj haus xwb. Tswv ntuj, tswv teb tswv chaw lawv yeej muaj lawv vaj
lawv tsev nyob, lawv yuav tsis nyob rau hauv lub chaw teev ntuj ua
neeg ua los NTXIAS nyiaj ntawm ).
Tshe 98% Moob xaav le koj xaav hab has kos ntaag Moob txhaj tsi muaj kev ntseeg hab tsev teev hawm. Peb Moob ce zoo moog nrug cov LOST TRIBE nyob nraag South America, Amazon, mas sib phim kawg.


MT

FAT little BIGFOOT BIGHEAD2

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Dec 29, 2014, 7:44:19 PM12/29/14
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YOG LAWV KAM kuv tseem xav mus KOOM COVWILD TRIBE hauv DAIM MOVIE"THE GOD MUST BE CRAZY" tseem khees zog 5 TXHAWJ NQE TSEV NQE HLUAV TAWS THIAB INSURANCE mee2 li. NQA IB RAB HNEEV NTI nrog rab RIAM thiab 2-3 xib xub PLEEV TSHUAJ zoo2 ces nkag2 nyas ib hnee 6 tus mos lwj los IMPALA ces caum ib pliag nws pw twj ywm khaws TXO CES los CI kom SIAV2 xwb. mus mas kuv xwb POJNIAM MENYUAM 5 COJ 1 TUG. 5 li mas NCAJ NRAIM ROV TIM NAJ KHAV/NAJKAIB uas ze2 KASXIM rov mus ua CAUBFAB ZAUM 2. nqa li 5 ya kav qos ntoo nrog RIAM PHOM/SHOTGUN ces mus luaj ib thaj AV 5x5 METER xwb cog 5 tsob qos ntoo. 6-9 hli tom qab ces 5 muaj TSHAIBPLAB LAWM noj ib tsob qos ntoo cog 5 tsob ntiv vim qos ntoo mas COG tus KAV XWB txiav tej toom li 1 dos ces muaj ib lub pob cog tau 1 tsob lawm. noj THAWM NIAJ THAWM XYOO NYABLAJ 5 POM vim yuav pom yuav yog twb tuaj ze2 li 20-50 mev mam paub deb tshaj ntawd ces kuv daim teb qos ntoo yog HAV ZOOV ib yam tej hav zoov QUS2 lawm xwb. txog txij nysb nyas2 tuaj li 50 mev ces kuv twb pom ua ntej lawm. xav noj nqaij CUAB NAS TSUAG thiab NUV NTSES. YOG NRUAG TUA NPLOOS. nco POJNIAM ces mus tham hluas nkauj ahmoob NYEG TOM ZOS. muaj coob cov hluas nkauj LEES tom HMOOB ZOS THAM ZOO2 lawv DAWB2 MOS2 5 NTSUAB. TOD lawv muag ntsev ntau 3 lub neej CAUBFAB 1976-1979 3 5 TSHAIB NTSEV VIM MUS YUAV YOOJ8 tseev MUAJ ZOG EV. 3 cov niam txiv tub nyuag mus EV kom nyhav tsawv ces KAV 2-3 XYOO lawm. yog nqe NQAIJ THISB SIAB PHEM ME2 nqa phom lawm nram BLOG LIAJ BLOG MUAJ QAIB NPUA NYUJ TWM PAWG LUG. NYIAG KIAG XWB. NYIAG TUS MOS2 22 TIBSI twb tau. ua CAUBFAB 6 THAJ TSAM NTAWD TAU 3 XYOOS ROV MUS KUV 5 RHISB LAWM. TSAM NO 3 cov teb ntshe NTOO ROV LUAJ KAWM li thaum i luaj thiab ntov ib zaug. KUV NAV #1 MAS PLAWV KUJYEM. QAB2 ZIB noj kom tsau li MOV los tau. yog muaj sib2 ib lub ROOB mas muaj ib 2 tsob xwb. PLAWV TXOOB thiab kav theej mas NOJ NYOO 5 QAB li KUJYEM. muab hau no CAWM SIAV TAU MF2. TXJOOB mas NOJ tus KAV LOJ2 TAWV2 ov yuav yog SIV SIJ HAWM thiaj ua tau kua dis los haus.

AEON

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YOG MUSJ li koj piav mas 5 ntev KAWG TUAG HMOOB KOM NYUAM LAIB mus nrhiav 5 tau los lawv yuav mus tso NYUJ CIAB NYUJ NCAU NRAU KOM SIAV TU NRHO. hom no tim meskas 5 work zoo 6 meskas thiab KHEJ DUB ces hmoob 5 FAVOR LAWM XWB OV tim THAIB HMOOB TSEEM MAG KAWG. 3 ib tu TXEEB ZE mus tim meskas no mus tim THAIB twb MAG ntsub2 yuav tuag tiag ua pa 5 nto. zoo ho muaj cov txheeb ze tim ub kawv MAG NTAU2 lawm ces lawv PAUB TSHUAJkom cov NYUJ no NTXUB2 kawg rov qab mus ntsib tus TSO LAWV TUAJ. cov txheeb ze PAB CAWM ib pob tshuaj 3 tus txheeb ze thiaj DIM PLAWS ua oa rov haum ces sau nra rov nram BKK ce mam li rov los tsev tim meskas no lawm.
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