Puas tsim nyog VP Bomb Nam ngeun Damp?

[beemou...@earthlink.net]

Was it worth for Colonel Yang Chao stopping Vang Poa dropping Bombs to the Nam ngeun Damp in May 1975?

Many of us learned that in May 1975 VP ordered T-28 from Longcheng to drop Bombs at Nam ngeu Damp in responding to Pathet-Lao aggression toward his base . Those T 28 already in the air, but Colonel Yang Chao stopped VP. He then decided to drop those Bombs in Xaraphoukhoun that made Premier Phouma angry and fired him from Commander of Region 2.

[ntu...@gmail.com]

It is expired already, no need to talk about.

[AEON]

On Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:49:26 PM UTC-6, beemou...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Was it worth for Colonel Yang Chao stopping Vang Poa dropping Bombs to the Nam ngeun Damp in May 1975?
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> Many of us learned that in May 1975 VP ordered T-28 from Longcheng to drop Bombs at Nam ngeu Damp in responding to Pathet-Lao aggression toward his base . Those T 28 already in the air, but Colonel Yang Chao stopped VP. He then decided to drop those Bombs in Xaraphoukhoun that made Premier Phouma angry and fired him from Commander of Region 2.

i hear a story from a former soldier said that story about Xaraphoukhoun bombing that get GVP FIREd of his region2 position is as follow:

thaum ntawd GVP thiab nws cov tub rfog ua ib lub KHAIB nyob saum iblub roob rau sab tim Xaraphoukhoun. tog NYABLAJ TUAJ UA IB LUB khaib PUAB KIOAG LUB ROOB uas GVP lawv lub roob sab tim ub me2 KEMib tug dej ntws los nruab nrab ntawm ob lub KHAIB xwb. TOG TOM nyablajLUB khaib LOS MUAJ TUS PUAV TUB ROG YOG hmoob MAS gvp TOG THIAB nyablaj TOG TAB 66SIAB qw sij tham. nyias nyob tim nyias olub KHAIB sib zog qw xwb ces tog tim ub twb hnov tas. tog tim ub los muaj HMOOB lawv kuj QW2 tuaj ces GVP tog kuj hnov. lawv mas 66siab sij tham li hom no tsis tas SIV xov tooj li. yooj8 kawg. ob tog txawm tias tog twg los yog HMOOB ces kom muab tus dej thiab ib tug CHIJ coj txhos 6 nram hav dej ua ib tug CIAM tebkom ib tog TXHOB mus dhau tus CHIJ no ces tog tom ub TXHOB TUA. LAWM QW2 THIAB THAM2 KUJ yeem SIV ib tug CHIJ muab mus TXHOS nram hav dejua tus CHIJ KEM CIAM. ob tog txawm yeem nqa tus CHIJ mus TXHOS nram hav dejli tau COG lus tseg. sawv daws mas zoo siab kawg tias zaum no mas lawv lub KHAIB yuav nyob ruaj ntseg vim ob tog pom zoo KEM CIAM6 nrav hav dej lawm. GVP tog 66siablos pw ib hmo tsis tas nyob ib hmos zov nyas li lawm. tag kis hnub tuajpom2 klev GVP tog mam sawv los nuam yaj na ua cas tsis pom tus CHIJA nram havdejlawm. mamli XAM2 ntgev loo mam saib tseeb2 na ua cas tus CHIJ twb nyobntawm lawv ntug khaib lawm. GVP tog mas qw2 chim2 plawv yuav tawgl.gvp tog thiajli nqa tus CHIJ rovmus txhos 6 nram hav dej. hmo tom qab lawv ua zoo saib na nyablaj tog twb rov tuaj muab tus chij nram hav dej nqa nkag tuaj txhos puag kiag ntawm GVP tog lub khaib ib sab li thawj hnub dua. hnub tuaj pom2 kev GVP togkuj mus nqa niag CHIJ mus txhos 6 nram havdej dua. ua2 li no ntau zaus ces tus thawj lub khaib thiajli piav2 mus txog GVP los tau hnov tej teeb meem CHIJ no ib yan nkaus. GVP thiajli hais rau GVP tog tub rog saum khaiob tias yog tog nyablaj rov nqa tus CHIJ tuaj txhos ze2 pem lawv lub khaib los KAV LIAM. HNUB PUAV gvp MAMLI MUAB LAWV LUB KHAIB SAB ROOB TID dawj kiag POV TSEG. gvp THIAJLI LOS nrog nws tus THAWJ BLOG tham li cas los nws tus THAWJ BLOG KO9M TXHOB TUA LUB KHAIB sab roob tim ub. ib tug nom BLOG pom tias GVP CHIM HEEV nws thiajli ntxias GVP tuias tua KIAG lub khaib tim ub. yog TSOOM LOJ tsis txaus siab los nkawv obkleeg mamli TAWM HAUJLWM ua ke tib si. GVP thiajli los xav2 ntau hnub NYUAJ2 SIAB txaus yees nws thiaj xum TAWM yog NOM NPLOG LOJ tsis txaus siab kom GVP tua lub khaib tim ub. GVP thiajli ua ib suiab tuaKIAG NYABLAJLUB KHAIB SAB ROOB TIMUB. GVP thiajli order tau 5 lub t-28 MUS POV BOMB 6 lub khaib tim ub av ntsoog tas tsis tshuav ib tug nyom li lawm. GVP tus thawj nom BLOG LOJ THIAJ LI NCAWS GVP TAWM region2 command. GVP thiajli muab lub xab(n) thiab lub kos mom hle tso tseg 6 nom BLOG gvp thiaj li tig loo rov qab mus 6 LOOJCEEB. HNUB PUAV tom qab ntawd CES gvp THIAJLI DHIA TAWM TUAJ 6 TIM thaib LAWM. 1975 peb kuj tseem 66siab mus ua teb npleg teb pob kws thiab teb YEEB tib si. kuv nco tau mas xyoo ntaws pev mus pw tom teb yeeb kuv txiv thiab kuv tij lauglawv mas hmo ntuj 66siab mus zov nploos sawv ntxov kaj ntug txoog mas lawv mam li nqa nploos los dob rho koob thiab ua quav iabnploo 6 peb noj tom teb yeeb.

xyoo tom qab 1976 los pebkuj ua li qub. txawv mas yog lub 11 hli 1976 koos16 tuaj hauv peb zos peb thiajli dhia tawmli kuv piavloslkawmntaus zaus.

[MHoobVajUSA]

On Saturday, February 1, 2014 10:49:26 PM UTC-5, beemou...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Was it worth for Colonel Yang Chao stopping Vang Poa dropping Bombs to the Nam ngeun Damp in May 1975?
>
>
>
> Many of us learned that in May 1975 VP ordered T-28 from Longcheng to drop Bombs at Nam ngeu Damp in responding to Pathet-Lao aggression toward his base . Those T 28 already in the air, but Colonel Yang Chao stopped VP. He then decided to drop those Bombs in Xaraphoukhoun that made Premier Phouma angry and fired him from Commander of Region 2.

Bee Long Cheng ,
According to my source , you were the one who stopped those T28 . You should take all the credit if it was a true story . A baby soccer player in Longcheng did an amazing job .

[Vaj Ncuab]

On Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:49:26 PM UTC-6, beemou...@earthlink.net wrote:

> Was it worth for Colonel Yang Chao stopping Vang Poa dropping Bombs to the Nam ngeun Damp in May 1975?
>
>
>
> Many of us learned that in May 1975 VP ordered T-28 from Longcheng to drop Bombs at Nam ngeu Damp in responding to Pathet-Lao aggression toward his base . Those T 28 already in the air, but Colonel Yang Chao stopped VP. He then decided to drop those Bombs in Xaraphoukhoun that made Premier Phouma angry and fired him from Commander of Region 2.

Kwvntxawg Mouabee Chaofa;



Qhov hais tias Lt. Col. Yaj Txos the Deputy Chief of Police of Xeev Xieng Khouang cheem (stopped) Naiphom Vaj Pov tsis pub bombs Pas Dej Tauv es cov T-28s thiaj mus pom bombs rau Sala Phou Khoum mas tsis txaus ntseeg. Yaj Txos yog Tub Ceev Xwm nws tsis muaj feem txog fab tug rog.

Sala Phou Khoum tawg yog May 5, 1975 thaum 11:00 PM. May 12, 1975 thaum 9:00 AM Naiphom Vaj Pov, Lt. Col Ham Choj the MR II Chief of Intelligence Officer & Maj. Yaj Xyooj the MR II Assistant Wing Commander lawv sab laj txog qhov yuav tiv thaiv Looj Ceeb vim Pathet Lao hla tus Sangna Vientiane thiab Pathet Lao cov T-76 Tanks tuaj txog Vang Vieng thiab hla KM 22 tuaj rau Na Xou yuav tuaj rau Looj Ceeb lawm.

Yuav ntsum muaj tus noj tau, hais tau, thiab ua tau li Naiphom Vaj Pov Nplog thiaj tsis kov Hmoob. Yog Looj Ceeb ua tsauv los Vientiane yuav tsum ua das dej mas Nplog Liab thiaj ntshais Hmoob thiab Hmoob thiaj tau kev tawm tebchaws. Pathet Lao hla tua Sangna Vientiane tsis txhaum, tua Sala Phou Khoum tsis txhaum, tua Looj Ceeb tsis txhaum es yog Naiphom Vaj Pov tiv thaiv Looj Ceeb txhaum mas Souvanna Phouma thiab Pathet Lao tsis ncaj lawm.

Brig. Gen. Homphanh Norasing (Member of National Political Council 1974-75) hais tias, "Naiphom Vaj Pov ntse kawg, Naiphom Vaj Pov paub tag Pathet Lao lub siab es nws thiaj thauj cov Hmoob tawm Looj Ceeb, cov Hmoob thiaj tsis tuag thiab tsis raug cab mus samana. Hmoob tsis muaj kev nyuaj siab, tsis lwj siab lwj ntsws es Hmoob tuaj txog USA no Hmoob thiaj nrog luag qab siab ua neej, Hmoob thiaj muaj tub txawj tub ntse coob".



Vajncuab5

[AEON]

ntximli Vajncuab5 yuav paub tseeb zog vim nws khaws tau tej sij hawm khees zog klwm tus. yog muaj raws Vajncuab5 piav mas GVP yeej HEEV TXAUS vimn nws yeej paub tog koomsam tom huab tais thiab huab tais tus kwv nkawv yuav tsis tseg LOOJCEEB kom HMOOB tau2 zoo nyob pem LOOJCEEB nws thiajli npaj ntsoov tias yog nrov ib tog pem LOOJCEEB ces kom nws twb muab ib pab tub tsav dav hlau npaj TXIJ2 tos order ces ya plaws within minute ntsaub ntsees lawm nram NAGNUEN kom cov BLOG NRAM vt CES NROG NTSES sib tw ntab/tog lawm tim THAIB. IB CO MAS YUAV ampwg2 txog tim thaib ib cio ces qoov2 cia li TOG nrog dej lawm kom HMOOB tunoob pem LOOJCEEB LOS KOM tau ib co BLOG mus ua hauv ncoo. tsis tas li xwv juj yog ib yam GVP yuav siv los ua ib lub ZOG kasmoos sib NYOM kom tog tom ub los PAUB tias yus tshuav ib lub MAV TAIS YOG LAWV XAV sim NO KUJ SIM KIAG.

KUV xav xwb mas BLOG tsis LAM nkag tuaj tsoo LOOJCEEB vim lawv ntshai thiab PAUB hmoob heev npaum li cas thaum HMOOB XUM TUAG TUAJLAWM. TOG NYAB LAJ TWB POM IB ZAUG thaum 1969 uas LIS LWM mag txais poob GVP chim txaus2 thiajorder kom tua thiab caum tuag nti nws copv tub rog mas xum tuag tsis tas maj mam nyas2 nkag2 mus tu tog nyablajli lawm lawv cia dhia li mus caum qaib pom tog tom ub ces luaj pom ib to9g mus. NYABLAJ nim yuav HEEV npaumli cas os NYABLAJ TWB dhia2 CEG LEM tas dhau plaws rov 6 tom nyablaj teb lawm. huabtais BLOG tsis txaus siab vim nws muaj kev cog klus nrog nws tus kwv kom TXHOB caum nws tuskwv tog tub rog mus kom TAWM daim av nplog yuav tsum tseg ib thaj tsam tom puab nyajlaj teb uas tseem yog AV NPLOG kom cia 6 huab tais tuskwv cov tub rog nyob.
GVP thiaj mag huabtais BLOG cem IB ZAUG. LAQWV YEEJ PAUB YOG HMOOB XUMJ TUAG TUAJ MAS BLOG yuav coob npaumli cas los yog muaj GVP0 thiab gvp tej twj ua ROG TSEEM NYOB HAUV LOOJCEEB MAS TSUM KIAG TXHOB THAB TSO HEM THAWJ KOM gvp THIAB HMOOB DHIA TAWM XWB TSEEM YOG VIBTHIS ZOO DUA lawm BLOG thiajli SIV hom tso hem thawj xwb thaum lub 5 hli 1975 ntawd. yog BLOG lam nyas2 nkag2 tuaj ze LOOJCEEB mas tsam no xyov peb ua li caslawm. xyov peb yuav tyog tswv teb chaws los peb yuav lwj mus ua AV tas dulug tsis muaj noob hmoob hauv daim AV BLOG li lawm.

[mi hlub]

On Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 9:49:26 PM UTC-6, beemou...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Was it worth for Colonel Yang Chao stopping Vang Poa dropping Bombs to the Nam ngeun Damp in May 1975?
>
> Many of us learned that in May 1975 VP ordered T-28 from Longcheng to drop Bombs at Nam ngeu Damp in responding to Pathet-Lao aggression toward his base . Those T 28 already in the air, but Colonel Yang Chao stopped VP. He then decided to drop those Bombs in Xaraphoukhoun that made Premier Phouma angry and fired him from Commander of Region 2.

in WAR WHOEVER SURVIVE IS THE WINNER. IF GVP DID NOT DO ITHMONG PEOPLE HAD the CHANCE TO DIE ALL. YEP IFPATHET LAO P[USH THEIR TROOPS INTO LONGCHENG MOST HMONG WILL DIE QUICKLY. IF I WERE IN GVP'S SHOES I WOULD DO THE SAME TO ORDER ALL AIR FORCE UP AND ALL GROUND FORCES TO DIG-IN INTO THEIR DEFENSE POSITIONS FOR A FINAL FIGHT. MAY 1975 COULD HAD BEEN OUR LAST FIGHT OR FACE OUR TERMINATION FAITH. WITH INTERVENTION FROM OTHER GVP CHOSE OUR FAITH ROAD WHICH WE WERE TO FACE TERMINATION. LUCKILY PATHET LAO DID NO SENT TROOPS INTO LONGCHENG SO MOST HMONG SURVIVED. MOST PEOPLE ARE LUCKY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO FACE SUCH ACTION IN A FINAL FIGHT SESSION. IN NOV/1976. WE FACED THE SAME DECISION. WE CHOSE TO FIGHT INSTEAD OF HANNDING 4 LEADERS IN OUR VILLAGE TO LPDR TO ARREST AND SEND TO RE-EDUCATION CAMP/JAIL. WE FOUGHT FOR 2-3 HOURS AND TO THE JUNGLE WE WENT. IN THE JUNGLE UNTIL JULY 1979 WE HAD FOUGHT ABOUT 4 SESSIONS THAT LPDR SOLDIERS WERE JUST 50-75 METERS AWAY FROM OUR BABANA LEAVES HUTCH S. IN THOSE FIGHTS WE WERE SCARED BY NOISE FROM AK AND RPG-7 BUT LUCKY NO ONE IN OUR FAMILY WERE HIT.

[mi hlub]

tsov rog CAUBFAB 1978-1979 mas 3 nkaum nyob NAJ KHAV ze2 KASXIM mus taw li 2-3 xuaj moos nqes ROOB txog nram tiaj ces yog BLOG ZOS PUAB KIAG NTUG KASXIM LAWM NTAG. TABSIS VIM TUBROG BLOG/NYABLAJ 5 PAUB TXOJ KEV NCAJ2. LAWV YUAV TUA TUA 3 mas lawv TXOJ KEV lug MUS TOM SAB HNUB TUAJ PUAG TOM hmoob zos lawv mam ho tag kev tod rov qab los ze2 NTUG KASXIM DUA ces SIV SIJ HAWM 6 LAWV li 3-4 HNUB LUG2 TEJ KEV ntawd 3 li mas 3 PAUB tej kev no zoo ces 3 tso 2 tug TUB HLUAS mus tham hluas nkauj LEES TOM ZOS HMOOB. MUS ua nav xwj THAM HLUAS NKAUJ CES HLUAS NKAUJ paub zoo2 TIAS 1-2 HMOS tas los muaj puas tsawg tus hluas nraug tuaj tham lawv yog TUB ROG KWV AKTHIAB B51. THAM2 CES HLUAS NKAUJ QHIA. YOG BLOG/NYABLAJ YUAV TUAJ TUA 3 MAS 3 PAUB UA NTEJ TSAWG KAWG YOG 3 HNUB UA NTEJ. PAUB LOS NTAWM HLUAS NKAUJ XWB NTAG VIM COV TUB ROG MAS LAWV TXOG TOM HMOOB ZOS KAWG MUS THAM TUS ZOO NKAUJ TSHAJ YOG 1 TUG HLUAS NKAUJ LEES XEEM YAJ. PAUB TIAS TUAJ LAUD NO CES 2 TUG NAVXWJ MAM RAG CAUJ2 TXOJ KEV NCAJ ROV LOS TOM HACZOOV. 3 PAUB CES NRHIAV KEV NKAUM. 1978 3 TWB MUS NKAUM TAU 3 HNUB TUB ROG BLOG/NYABLAJ MAM TUAJTXOG 3 LUB ZOS CAUBFAB TOM NAJKHAV. 3 TWB KHIAV DULUG LAWV TUA TSEV QHUAV2 QAIB BUA TWB 5 MUAJ 6 LAWV TUA. LAWV LUB HOM PHEEJ #2 MAS YOG LUB TXHAB 6 QOOB. MUAJ TSAWG LUB LAWV HLAWV TAS NRHO. 3 TEJ LUB TXHAB BLEJ MAS TWB DHAU 2-3 WEEK TSEEM KUB2 NCHO2 PA KOJ MUS HLIB2 SAIB SEB TAU CUA CES PLAWG BLAIM ROV SAWV TSEES. KOJ 5 TSHAWB NO CES NCHO2 PA XWB. KUB QEEB HEEV LI BLEJ NA. POB KWS MAS KUB YOOJ8. BLEJ MAS KUB TSHAJ 10+ HNUB TSEEM NCHO2 PA. TUB ROG TUAJ TUA 3 MAS LASWV NYOB 2 WEEKS XWB OS. 2 WEEKS LAWV TEJ KS POOM NQAIJ THIAB CAWV TAS DULUG CES LAWV DHIA ROV QAB TAS 3 MAM TAWM TOM CHAW NKAUM LOS UA TEB DUA. 1979 3 YEEJ PAUB LUB 9-11 HLIS MAS LAWV KAWG TA CES 3 5 TOS2 LAWM LUB 6 HLI XWB 3 TWB NRHIAV KEV MUS THAIB TEB. COV TXIVNEEJ CES MUS HAVZOOV COV POJNIAM MENYUAM CES MUS LUA NRAM KASXIM MAM LI MUS TSHEB KOM ZE2 NTUG MEKONG. 9 HLIS CES COV POJNIAM MENYUAM LOS TXOG NASKAS COV TXIV NEEJ LOS TXOG NASKAS. COV POJNIAM MENYUAM CES UA SIAB NYOB NASKAS TOS HOS COV TXIV NEEJ CES NCAJ NRAIM NRAIM DEJ MEKONG. COV TXIVNEEJ MUS TXOG VINAIS NYOB2 LUB 1/1980 COV TXIV NEEJ MAM LI TIG LOO HLA MEKONG ROV TUAJ NASKAS. POM QAB LAWM CES 3 MAM LI DHIA TAWM 6 VINAI. 1976-1979 BLOG/NYABLAJ XAV KOM 3 TUNOOB KIAG TABSIS NTUJ 3 KAM LAWV TUA 3 ZE2 LI 50-75 MEV XWB LOS BEEG TAS LI. 3 DHIA 3 LAWM NCAJ NRAIM. LAWV MAM CAUM DUA. 1 SIJ MAG TUA 12 BLUA LOS 5 TUAG YOOJ8. CAUBFAB NCAJ NCEES KHI TXOJ XOV PAJ XWB LOS YEEB NCUAB TUA 5 RAUG TUA B51-RPG-7 LOS 5 TAWG. 3 XYOOS NTAWD KUV TUS KHUAJ 7-10 XYOO NTAWD KUV TEJ NUM CES YOG LI NO:

#1 MUS KHAWB QOS YOG 5 TSHUAV BLEJ LAWM.
#2 CUAB PIV
#3 UA TAWB PIV.
#4 FIAB LEV LAIS 2 KAWM2 FIAB 5 TAU LI TXOG TAV NO TSEEM TWB 5 TXAWJ FIAB LAIS 2.