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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 12:45:30 PM UTC-7, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lauj Kiab Toom and VP, who's on the wrong side of history?
> 40 years have passed, and which groups has brought in the most successful Hmong?

Nyiajth..,

-Lauj KiabToom muaj txiag nplua nuj under French Protectorat, nws tuag tshaj 40 xyoo lawm. Tej zaum koj mean nws tus tub Lauj FaivNtaj/NyiajVws/LaujFoom lawv lawv cov ua sawv pab PathetLao pob? Pab Lauj no suab ntsiag lawm sub. AS political views, pab YAJ sawv siab dua dua pab LAUJ(FaivNtaj)no.

-VP mas, tus politic yeej swb lawm ntxov, tabsis, yas tag los, tseem DAG tau noj tau haus; majority Hmoob tseem favored nws sab. In Facts, nws yeej yuam kev ntau yam, ex: yeej hnov nroo tawm tias: VajNom VajTswv coob kawg tabsis, nrhiav VajKwv VajTij mas nrhiav ua tshuaj twb nyuab no laiv.

Lam blablabla.. uasi xwb os.....txhobkhaw ua chaw ntxhov siab nawb...

TseemYeej.
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On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 12:40:10 PM UTC-5, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> TseemYeej,
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> Tsis ua cas.
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> Koj xav li cas xwb.....peb haiv hmoob, leej twg thiaj li yog cov neeg nyob rau wrong side of history?
Nyiajth...;



Lauj Npliaj Yob, Tub Npis, Faiv Ntaj, Vaj Pov & lwm tus, nyiaj muaj nyias zeem muag thiab kev coj noj coj ua. 1920s mas Hmoob Nplog (Hmoob Xeev Khuam) tsis yog Lauj Npliaj Yob tib leeg thiaj yog nom xwb. Cov Hmoob uas ua Tojxeem ua ntej rog Phim Npab muaj coob tus: Nyaj Ntxawg Kwm Tojxeem Phwv Fab, Zam Lwm Vaj Tojxeem Navang, Zam Yias Hawj Tojxeem Phwv Khes, Npuag Hwm Lis Tojxeem Phwv Xam, Nyiaj Tub Tsheej Tojxeem Huam Nyuas thiab Lauj Tswb Tojxeem Moos Mauj.

Lauj Npliaj Yob nrov ces yog thaum Fabkis kom cov Hmoob khawb txoj kev nom #7 thiab npluav rog Phim Npab xwb. Tiag tiag ces Fabkis them ib tug neeg 2 Kip per day tabsi Lauj Npliaj Yob lawv muab nyiaj noj tag lawm, then Lauj Soob Ntxawg lawv sawv rog Phim Npab.

Nyob sab Phwv Fab mas thawj thawj tug Tojxeem yog Nyaj Ntxawg Kwm, Nyaj Ntxawg Kwm ua tag ces tso rau Num Tswb Yaaj ua. Thaum Num Tswb ua ces Chao Muang Pek txawm tsa Nkaj Xauv Lis ua tus Tojxeem Koos Kheem. Thaum Fabkis ua txoj kev #7 ntawm Sala Phou Khoum mus rau Muang Soui, Fabkis them ib tug neeg 2 Kip per day tabsi Hmoob tsis tau nyiaj ces Hmoob tsis kam khawb kev, Fabkis thiab Chao Muang Pek thiaj musb ob yawg ncaws tawm Tojxeem. Xyoo 1938 Num Yig Yaaj lawv mam rov mus muas thiab thov tau tus Tojxeem Phwv Fab ua.

Kuv nug Maj. Liaj Foom Yaaj Tojxeem Num Tswb Yaaj ib tug tub hais tias, yawm thaum yawm Num Tswb poob Tojxeem puas tau yug koj? Maj. Liaj Foom teb kuv tias; "Kuv txiv poob Tojxeem tag 2-3 tom qab no (1924) mam yug kuv".

Phas nyas Tub Npis Lis Foom yog tus cog noob, Nais Phoos Vaj Pov yog tus sau xwb. Hmoob cov tub txawg tub ntse pib kawm ntawv yog thaum Tub Npis sawv ua nom. 1960 ces Hmoob twb muaj ze 200 tug kawm tau Cert lawm, cov Hmoob no yog cov los ua tub rog pab Maj. Vaj Pov. Vaj Pov nrov ces yog npluav rog Vaj Pov xwb.


yingb

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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-5, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lauj Kiab Toom and VP, who's on the wrong side of history?
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> 40 years have passed, and which groups has brought in the most successful Hmong?

Nyiaj...
Kuv mas kuv tsuas xav yooj2 yim xwb... kuv xv tias koj lo lus nug ces depend seb leej twg yog tus teb... yog cov nyob sab tod, xws li pani yathotou thiab chaleun nyiaj pov hawj lawv ces lawv yuav hais tias they're the right side vim lawv yeej teb chaws ne... hos yog kuv teb koj ces kuv yuav hais tias I am on the right side vim peb tuaj tau zoo nyob meskas teb ne...
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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-5, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lauj Kiab Toom and VP, who's on the wrong side of history?
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> 40 years have passed, and which groups has brought in the most successful Hmong?

Nyiaj,
Muaj ib qho raws li kuv xav mas yog yuav hais hmoob muaj npe nrov mus thoob ntuj mas yuav yog vim cov hmoob vaj pov inlfucence nawb... thiab hmoob vaj pov yog cov support tus ntawv hmoob thiab ua rau luag lwm haiv neeg hu peb ua "hmong/hmoob" tsis hu ua "meo" lawm...

yingb

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On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-5, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lauj Kiab Toom and VP, who's on the wrong side of history?
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> 40 years have passed, and which groups has brought in the most successful Hmong?

hmoob teev kua muag tseem poob tsis tau txaus... yog poob txaus lawm mas hmoob yuav sib hlub tshaj tam sim no os
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On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 7:38:10 PM UTC-7, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yuav yog hnub twg es cov kua muag mam li poob txaus?
> Hmoob Thaib?
> Hmoob USA?
> Hmoob Australian?
> Hmoob Canada?

Nyiajth..,

Cov phoojywg tawm tuaj teb koj yeej teb tib nqag xwb, yam li koj tseem taug vp tus qub hnee nawb.

Yog koj pheej xav kom Hmoob kuamuag tu ces pos pob ntseg zoo-oo, txhob ntseeg-g Hmoob DAG. Vim tus Hmoob NTSE(Neohom gangsters) yeej khwv kaus tus Hmoob RUAM(Hmoob NpuasLoom) hlwb noj mus tas li xwb. Hmoob DAG Hmoob nkaus xwb os. Nyob tsis tau zoo nyob, tseem dag kom Hmoob luaj tshav nyoobHoom, Meskas yuav pov riam phom pab Hmoob no ne. Luav tsis pw luav qub zeg lawm, thaum kawg, tuag tsheej qhov tsua. Leej tug thiaj teev tau Hmoob li kuamuag? VamKaim Vwj lawv pab nyob nram roob MoosNyaj, los, ntseeg-g vp dag, tuag tshaib tsheej roob tsheej hav tib yam nkaus.

Cov Hmoob DejDawb los tib yam, Hmoob yeej nyob Hmoob tus-s lawm nav, Dr. PobZeb lawm tseem mus dag kom Hmoob khiav thiaj tau kaus ib yig 2-3 choj nyiaj ne. Thaum kawg raug thaib ntiab rov qab.

Tsis pom qab kiam leej twg ces kawg pov quav rau LisTeeb thiab LisTub nkawd 2 kwvtij tua Hmoob mus-s los-s xwb.

After Vn war, NyabLaj & Cambodians twb tuag coob li coob ne, leej twg thiaj teev tau lawv tej kua muag????


TseemYeej.




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May 15, 2016, 1:16:39 PM5/15/16
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Yijlaug Nyiaj Yeeb;



Yeej yog li koj hais, thaum Tojxeem Txhiaj Kaus Yaj tuag es Txhiaj Tub Yaj (Boum Gnon) tuaj mas Boum yeej khav ntxhias hais tias, Xaiv Kawm, Hawj Tsab, Pany, Tooj Ntxawg, Vam Tub lawv thiaj tseem tseem yog nom. VP, Tub Ntxawg, Tub Npis lawv sawv tawm tsam tog Neo Lao Hat Sak ces luag lam muab nom rau ua xwb. Boum Gnon hais ntxiv tias, leej twg yog tus yeej teb yeej chaws thiab muaj teb muaj chaws ces tus ntawd thiaj tseem tseem yog nom.

Peb Hmoob Amelicas muaj kev txawj ntse, muaj nyiaj tiag tabsi peb tsis muaj teb muaj chaws kav tsis ua nom loj li cov Hmoob Nplog ces tus yuav hais li cas los yog.

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May 19, 2016, 1:02:27 PM5/19/16
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cov tijlaug,

nej hais dabtsi li rau Nyiaj naj...cov neeg tsi paubtab thiab tsi muaj qhov muag mas thiaj li lam nug tej niag lus li Nyiaj thiab tijlaug Beemoua Chaofa lawv nug no os...hehehhehe LOLz!

1. Tsi muaj GVP los ua pivtxwv pab Meska kom hmoob yog tubpeebzeej los tsi tau tuaj Meska teb no.

2. hos yog tsi muaj cov Lauj thiab Yaj tuaj tog Pabtikas tua yeej kiag GVP los peb tsi tau tuaj rau lub teb chaw Meska no.


kheev lam tog GVP thiab Meska yeej kiag, ces kuv xav tias Nyiaj thiab koj kuv peb coob tus no ces yog Phaubhaib thiab Phaubnas tag tug xwb os nawb.

vim tias, cov yuav tuaj pom Meska teb thiab tuaj kawm txawj kawm ntse no ces yog cov tub NOM tub Tswv thiab GVP cov tub lawm xwb.

cov tibneeg zoo li Nyiaj thiab kuv thiab nej no ces kawg kawm tag high school nplogteb, tus sivzog kawg ces tau Bachelor Degree rau nplogteb... cov tsi sivzog kawm ces kawg ua Teb noj haus xwb.

3. twb yog muaj cov sivsiv tua GVP tog li koj kuv peb no es peb thiaj li Swb kiag lawm... peb thiaj cia li tau tuaj coob li coob tau Meska teb no.

tus ua niam thiab txiv tsi paub tus ntawv luaj TWM li koj kuv peb no los, peb cia li tau tuaj kawm txawj kawm paub thiab tus ntse los cias li Ntse tuaj, ces hos cias li txawj txawj tusj sib Tshum Tswv9 thiab Tswv10 nyob rau SCH no li niaj hnub no koj kuv peb sibtshum no lawm ntag.

yog li no, kuv concluded tias tsi muaj tog twg phem thiab wrong side li.... hehehe LOLz@ cov hmoob tsi paubtab es pheej lam tau lam ib kaug ub ib kaug no...smiles!

Born2beHmong

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May 19, 2016, 1:04:52 PM5/19/16
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tijlaug Vajncuab,

yog lus mas - yam dabtsi tseemceeb tshaj... the American dream...yog dabtsi? a place to call home...

thaum koj xav li no, leej twg yog muaj daim Av thiab AsNaj tuav thiab tswj/kav...

thanks bro

kwv Born
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On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 7:43:40 AM UTC-7, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> What is the American dreams? What does Hmong think of the American dreams?

American Dream ces yog li no:
- Last week, kuv mus koom Hmoob ib lub tuamtxhab lagluam nyob Fresno, , grand opennig, kuv pom Hmoob(new generation)) tuaj pab txhawb coob heev. Tabsis, Kuv tsis pom cov ua-ua kasmoos tuaj ib tug li. Tej zaum tuag zuj zus lawm...

Hmoob mus ib kauj ruam zes zus rau American main stream lawm tiag lauj.

> What is the meaning of the American dreams to a Hmong person? Does Hmong ever consider America home?

- Sure...Hmoob are adopting the American Dream widely and joyfully, yesterday, I went attend a university Graduation ceremony in Sacto, kuv pom tej tug poj Hmoob qig-g taub, nqa paj thiab balloons tuaj txhawb lawv tej tub tej ntxhais yam lomzem xauvnpo thiab qw tej swbsuab yam tsis ntshais txaj muag.... There we go!!!

Qho kuv mus mas yog muaj ib tug ntxhais xeeb ntxwv, a former pojlaib, niam txiv sib nrauj tag lawm, nws thiab tus vauv, 2 leeg, ke kawm ke ua hauj lwm. Hnub no; tau txais ntawv graduation thiab. Zoo siab tias ib tug ntxhais muaj txiv, muaj menyuam lawm mam rov mus kawm ntawv tiaqv log los..

Qhov kuv kuamuag teev yees mas yog thaum yuav noj mov, leej niam(tu yug/niam nrauj lawm) hais 2-3 lo lus rau tus txiv thiab niam tshiab tias:
-"Koj txiv,...menyuam yog wb 2 leeg li,txawm koj tso peb cov niam tub tseg lawm los, kuv yeej NyiajTshaib YooNqhis tu kom tau li koj siab xav. Txij no lawm tod.. Tsis muaj chaw vam los tseg, yog muaj chaw vam dab tsi? Yijmeem txib yijmeem khaiv ntag nawb..."

Ntxhais thiab Vauv yog 2 tug yuav air tickets rau txiv thiab niam yau tuaj out of state tuaj zaum no.

Txawm Hmong Dream (Hmoob TebChaws/Operation pop corn) tuag zujzus raws yawg hlob VP and XY lawv lawm los; small events zoo li no, yeej keep Hmong Dream Alive mus tsis tag tsis kawg li nawb. Vim kuv mus txog Yuba city, muaj ib tug kwvtij Hmoob kuj coj nws 4 tug tub los introduced rau kuv tiav lawv kawm tiav BA tag lawm thiab tseem yuav continue ntxiv. Tseemfwv yeej txais lawv mus ua haujlwm hauv labthabnpas Meskas...Hmmm....

Nws tseem qhia tias, thaum ub, nws tsis kam khiav tuaj, vim txom nyem heev, nws txiv mus khawb kiag nyiaj qab nas los cob rau nws kom nws tau peev pua kev khiav tuaj rau tebchaws vam meej, seb hnub qab nram lub ntsis, nws txiv puas muaj ib tsob noob nrog luag tsim taus txiaj thiab....

Wow!!! This is a Hmong Dream... Ntsia nws pab tub.... tib co cev yiag qaim zoo nraim ntxoo tag tug thiab ntag laiv....


TseemYeej.
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Kuv teb mej le nuav. Saib leej twg tshaw leej twg cov nyaj dlua. Tsi taag le ntawd puas muaj cov mebthaub phobthaub tim Nplog tuaj yuav cov hluas hluas tim Amelikas nuav moog nyob tsuas tim Nplog teb xwb, none.

Wrong side and right side is depend on the prosperity of that country. Nom mas puab tau ua tabsi puab tej ntxhais tej tub tseem nyam nyam hab tshaw tshaw cov nam phubthaub mebthaub tim Mekas teb nuav.

This is ver sample answer xwb nawb.

MT

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On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 12:50:46 PM UTC-7, nyiajth...@gmail.com wrote:
> 1979, thaum peb tuaj txog teb chaws usa no, kuv txiv muaj ib zaj npau suav....nws zaj npau suav yog, "thov kom nej kawm ntawv" ...
> Nws tsis hais kom kawm ua dab tsi, tab sis zoo heev heev.....ua nws caj ces niaj hnub niam no, tus twg los tau Bachelor thiab Associated of Art tas.

Koj txiv xav tau yog kawg lawm nawb. TebChaws Japan mas luag tsis txhawb ib tug student kawm kom nto plaws PhD/ MD/JD degree li nawb. Nws yuav tsum kawm kom tau technician(A.A)tso, ua hauj lwm 2-4 xyoo, mam mus kawm yuav engineer, rov los ua hauj lwm ntxiv 2-3 xyoo mam mus kawm yuav master and doctor etc... Ua lino, by the time nws kawm tiav qib siab, nws twb yog Savant lawm xwb.

Txawv peb tej Hmoob; sib tw kawm kom nto plaws qib siab tshaj, PhD/JD/MD.
Muaj ib hnub, ib yawm stop by kuv, nws introduced tias nws yog ib tug lawyer, nyuam qhuav kawm tias JD. Kuv 1tug zoo business associate(mr. X)referred kuv rau nws. Wb tham about 5 minutes, nws txawm kom kuv muab kuv phau store policy rau nws saib, kuv muab rau nws saib tag, nws kom copy ib phau rau nws, kuv copied ib phau rau nws nqa lawm. A week later, here came a bill of $5,000.00, kuv tsis them, the bill kept coming, 3-4 zaug, meem kuv txom, Kuv thiaj hu nug tias yog bill dabtsi? Nws tias: " The charge was from reviewing my store policy??? Kuv teb: Did we have any contract? show it to me!! otherwise F..U!

Daim bill ciali tsis tuaj txog tav no li ne.


TseemYeej.






Vaj Ncuab

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Uv=ncle TseemYeej;


Yawm txiv Paj Tsab (Naikong Lis Paj Tsab) xav tias kev kawm ntawv xwb thiaj yuav coj tau nws cov tub mus ciaj nom ciaj tswv es nws thiaj nrhiav txhua txoj hau kev txhawb kom nws cov menyuam kawm tau ntawv. Txawm li ntawd tseem muaj tu xav txwm kom yawm txiv Paj Tsab cov tub txhob tau kawm ntawv siab.

Txawm luag kaws qhov rooj txuas los Ly Teck, Ly Blong, Ly Cher & Ly Tou lawv tawm qhov rooj tag lawm es thaum kawg nej thiaj txawj ntawv thiab tau ua nom ua tswv.

Rooj teb no tus neeg txawj ntawv xwb thiaj yuav tau luag txoj haujlwm zoo, haujlwm sib thiab nyiaj ntaus. Nco ntsoov ib tug Realtor los yuav tsum mnuaj license, ib tug Techer yuav tsum muaj license, ib tug Nurn

Vaj Ncuab

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May 22, 2016, 11:31:54 AM5/22/16
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Uncle Tseemyeej;



Thov txim, ib tus Nurse los yuav tsum muaj license luag thiaj yuav txais ua hawjlwm. Ua ntej koj yuav xeem license koj yuav tsum kawm tiav luag daim degree. Tsis yog nav xwv xam yeej tham tsis tau nej cov ntxhais Hmoob Lis Cuab, txawm tham los yeej tsis tau es thiaj ua ib siab yuav cov ntxhais Hmoob xib taws daj ua liaj ua teb.

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On Sunday, May 22, 2016 at 8:31:54 AM UTC-7, Vaj Ncuab wrote:
> Uncle Tseemyeej;
> Thov txim, ib tus Nurse los yuav tsum muaj license luag thiaj yuav txais ua hawjlwm. Ua ntej koj yuav xeem license koj yuav tsum kawm tiav luag daim degree. Tsis yog nav xwv xam yeej tham tsis tau nej cov ntxhais Hmoob Lis Cuab, txawm tham los yeej tsis tau es thiaj ua ib siab yuav cov ntxhais Hmoob xib taws daj ua liaj ua teb.

VajNcuab awd..,

Cas yuav hais tau tusiab ua luaj naj? Xav txog koj txoj kev tusiab ko; kuv haj yam zoo siab qhov lawv xyeej kuv nawj!!! Yog lawv tsis xyeej kuv no, kuv twb tsis tau kuv tus me zoo poj no paub. Kuv rov pom tej niag QUB X mas xusiab tshaj; Tej tug niag PLAB zaiszis, MIS dai vias, HNIAV rua ras lawm xwb, muab piv pes tsawg los tsis npaum li yus tus me Nkauj Hmoob Khamkeut li os.

Ua Ntuj Tsaug qhov lawv tso yus tseg... Amen...Amitaphud..

Chivthawj, tsis tau paub, yus cav xav ntsib xav pom kawg, tabsis, sib ntsib dheev, cas tsis zoo li qub lawm, pom dheev yus mas, cav tham seev yees rau yus pojniam tias:
-"Pab koj zoo siab qhov koj tau ib tug zoo txiv...blablabla... Khuxim thaum ub, peb txiavtxim siab yuamkev lawm. HMOOV tsis txog thiaj tsis sib tau..."

Xav mus xav los cav tuaj dab ros thiab hov...Hawj..Hawj..Hawj..Hawj...


Txhob khuv-v xim tej niag qua ntxi ntawd lawm os.....Let bygones be bygones


TseemYeej.
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