History of SCH - revisited!
drpa...@dex.hmoob.net
forum for discussion. It is NOT own by anyone. Anyone from anywhere in
the world can read what you are posting. As far as archiving, this is
done by an individual or group for whatever purpose (in the case of
SCH, the early archives was done by Kue Xiong and kept at St Olaf as
part of the Hmong Homepage). For a newsgroup to be created, it must
have a charter and be presented to the Internet community to vote on
it. It must pass by a 2/3 majority and have at least 100 votes.
Social.culture.hmong (SCH) was first proposed in 1994 by Alex C. Lor
(l...@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu)
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.hmong/msg/05479385a42de958?hl=en
with the purpose "to provide to the Hmong community a forum for
discussion of Hmong culture, educational issues (reading and writing),
news, and entertainment. Unfortunately, when the final voting was
counted on 12 May 1994 , there were 67 YES votes and 37 NO votes from a
total of 104 valid votes. The proposed "unmoderated group
soc.culture.hmong " failed.
By 1996, there was a hot discussion on Lao-Hmong issue on the Laonet
list, with many strong words being flash through cyberspace. In the
midst of the debate, a Laonet member by the name of Kag Khetsavanh
announced that "instead of just arguing, let's do something
positive for our fellow citizen - the Hmong". He prosed, single
handed, to set up the "soc.culture.hmong" Newsgroup, on Jul 31 1996
- with the purpose:
" to provide a forum for discussion on issues related to the Hmong
people of Laos. Presently, more and more Hmong students accessing the
Internet. This newsgroup will provide the main place for them to
congregate.
All issues related to Hmong may be discussed in this forum. It is
expected that although this newsgroup will not be moderated, it will be
a platform for a lively discussion about the culture, politics and
social issues relating to Hmong at home and abroad. We welcome all
netters to learn more about our people and culture."
As the internet community discussed and thinking about this new
proposal, I went through past record of Newsgroup and I learned as much
as I can about the creation of such group. The requirement for
creating any group, the YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) and the minimum YES vote must be at least 100.
I then counted the Hmong on the Internet at that time, I estimated to
be around 100 people whom I have contact with, and there are similar
number of Laonet members. I projected that there would not be enough
votes to pass. So, I embarked on a daily advertising through Laonet
and Hmong discussion group about the important of voting to create this
Hmong Newsgroup. I even plead to every one.
To ensure success, I also post out plead to the Vietnamese, Cambodian,
Thai and South-East Asia group that I associated with. Soon, I got an
email from the man who was in charge of voting that I have breached
the Newsgroup code by soliciting votes from others and that I have
jeopardized the voting procedure and that the soc.culture.hmong could
be removed from voting if I continued . I wrote back to that person
that I was totally ignorant to the fact (which was totally true) that I
cannot forward the voting procedure to my friends and I sincerely sorry
and that it would not happen again.
When the votes were counted at the end of 30 Oct 1996, There were 179
YES votes (36 Hmong, 8 Lao and the rest are from other friends) and 23
NO votes, for a total of 202 valid votes. There were 6 invalid ballots
- this mean that the unmoderated group soc.culture.hmong has passed
with 179:23.
On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Kag Khetsavanh, posted a welcome message that I
help to draft, to launch soc.culture.hmong (SCH) to the cyber
community as follows:
"On behalf of Dr. Pao Saykao, who help draft this welcoming letter, I
would like to welcome you to the brand new soc.culture.hmong (SCHM)
As the proponent of the soc.culture.hmong, I like to thank all the
people around the world who have voted to support the creation of the
schm. It is timely that this forum has been created to focus on many
of the Hmong issues (1) with wide implications.
BACKGROUND
The Hmong have a rich and long history stretch back some 5000 years in
China. Over the centuries, the Hmong have been migrating from China
and they reached Laos, North Vietnam and Thailand in the early 1880's
and they have reached the four corners of the world since 1975.
In Laos, they have been actively participate in the building of the
country and they were involved on both side of politics during the
Vietnam War (2,3). When the Vietnamese War ended in 1975, about one
third of the Hmong in Laos found themselves on the wrong side and were
forced to leave the country with many of other Laotians (4). Since
then, more than 100,000 of them have been resettled in USA (5), Canada.
France (6), South America, Australia (7) and New Zealand. Over 100,000
remain in Laos.
Currently, there are probably close to 10 million Hmong with the bulk
of the population in China. North Vietnam has over 200,000 and
Thailand with 60,000 plus a few thousands of the residual Hmong
refugees (11). Hence the Hmong is a scattered group of people whose
history is driven by the desire to be free and to remain together as a
group. Now with the internet and this newsgroup, the Hmong are once
gain connected through cyberspace.
INTEREST IN THE HMONG
There has been a considerable interest in the Hmong since their
resettlement in the West (8,9,10). Many scholars from all fields find
the Hmong to be a fascinating group of people. Here is a group of
Hmong who have telescoping from a pre-illiterate society to a
cyberspace society in a matters of less that 20 years. Their history
is fascinating. Their culture is quite unique and provide a
kaleidoscopic topic for anthropologist, medical scholars and other
social scientists. Their bright clothes and their unique handicraft
have cause a resurgence of interest in the Hmong arts across the globe
(13,14).
Their settlement in the West has provide and endless research topic for
social science. But it has been a concern to some governments.
In the last few years, the Hmong refugees issue has become a sensitive
issue (12)
RATIONALE FOR SOC.CULTURE.HMONG
The purpose of the newsgroup "soc.culture.hmong" is to provide a forum
for discussion on issues related to the Hmong generally. Presently,
more and more Hmong students and professionals and scholars and others
who have access to the Internet. This newsgroup will provide the main
domain for them to congregate, to learn, to share and to develop
fellowship.
The "soc.culture.hmong" will an extension and complimentary to the
"soc.culture.laos" and all other existing discussion groups including
the Hmoob Ntsis Tshiab <hm...@listserv.oit.unc.edu>, Hmong Higher
Education Network <hhen-ca...@ucdavis.edu>, WWW Hmong
<hmon...@stolaf.edu>, Hmong Language User Group
<sno...@ix.netcom.com> and Hmong Studies Journal
<vueb...@gold.tc.umn.edu> and Lao Global Network <lao...@zac.lao.net>.
SOC.CULTURE.HMONG CHARTER
All issues related to Hmong may be discussed in this forum. It is
expected that although this newsgroup will not be moderated, it will be
a platform for a lively discussion about the culture, politics and
social issues relating to Hmong at home and abroad. We welcome all
netters to learn more about people and culture.
THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE
It is the dream that the soc.culture.hmong that this will be a lively
forum for all people across the globe to discuss, to debate and to
share all the positive aspects of Hmong issues. As each and everyone
of us come from different background, different experience, different
philosophy of life and different expectation, let this to be the forum
for all of us to learn about one another, to seek understanding and to
be understood. There will be many issues that we cannot agree but we
can always learn to respect each other's view point and we can learn to
agree to disagree and seek common links and work together. Let us all
meet in this forum in the atmosphere of mutual trust, respect and love.
Finally, it is hoped that this forum will also be the beginning for the
Hmong people who have been scattered around the world to come together,
not in one place but through cyberspace!
Sincerely,
Kag Khetsavanh"
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.hmong/msg/41adb04b8f45922f?hl=en
zhen
Which people were voting?
Also, Hmong people are not "pre-illiterate".
Tsujsua Dluag
how is alex choua lor doing these days?? heard of him lately?
yaweh
--
Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
Hmong-Lao
Thanks for sharing the interesting history of SCH, and thanks all of
you who gave birth to SCH.
HL
fajkhaum
present the fact. Good record keepping.
Fajkhaum
drpa...@dex.hmoob.net
1ST ATTEMPT 1994 - FAILED
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.laos/browse_frm/thread/2dd5240fa43c8f8a/bf6a48af70bf5a66?q=soc.culture.hmong++voting+results&rnum=9#bf6a48af70bf5a66
One In A Million May 17 1994, 5:50 am show options
Newsgroups: soc.culture.laos
From: kkhet...@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (One In A Million) - Find messages by
this author
Date: 16 May 94 19:42:23 GMT
Local: Mon,May 16 1994 3:42 pm
Subject: Result: soc.culture.hmong FAILED: 67:37
Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original
| Report Abuse
Result:
unmoderated group soc.culture.hmong fails 67:37
There were 67 YES votes and 37 NO votes, for a total of 104 valid
votes.
There were 5 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and
NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
Neither criterion has been met.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
group may
not be voted on again for six months.
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.hmong Discussion of Hmong social and cultural issues.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 12 May 1994.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact gt06...@prism.gatech.edu. For questions about
the
proposed group contact Kag Khetsavanh (kkhet...@bonnie.ics.uci.edu).
CHARTER:
The purpose of soc.culture.hmong is to provide to the Hmong community
a forum for discussion of Hmong culture, educational issues (reading
and
writing), news, and entertainment.
The Hmongs are a hill tribe people whose roots trace back 3000
years. They inhabit primarily the Yunan and surrounding provinces of
China. There is no history of where the Hmongs come from. The only
times when the Hmongs are mentioned in any historical context is when
they are in conflict with the Chinese Empire. The Hmong folklores
tell of a time when the Hmongs had a nation with a king and the
great wars that ensued. The Hmongs ultimately lost a war to the
Chinese Empire and were exiled from their homeland. The Chinese refer
to the Hmongs as Miao (Sons of the Soil):
san miao = 3 hmong = peb hmoob
Today the Hmongs are scattered throughout the world. From the
mountains of Laos, Thailand and China to the great cities of France,
United States and Australia to even lesser known places, the Hmongs
take asylum from political persecutions. Outside of Laos, the largest
concentration of Hmongs is in Fresno, California, where more than
50000 hmongs reside. Ever since the Vietnam War, the Hmongs have
saught political asylum throughout the world.
More than 90000 Hmongs make their home here in the United States.
When the Hmongs came here it was like implanting a 15th century
culture into a 21st century world. Now the Hmongs are forced to
struggle and lived under western norms. In today's soceity, the
family structure is breaking apart. This is an effect that is
detrimental to the Hmong who puts family first. This is just one
problem facing the many Hmong youths today.
With this newsgroup hopefully we can discuss this and many other
problems facing our community as we struggle to survive in this
country.
soc.culture.hmong final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A...@BGUEE.BGU.AC.IL
Avi Gold
altu...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Altay Ural
ASST...@jkhbhrc.byu.edu Brian
McKibben
A...@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
Asia Yang
aveek...@emily.seas.upenn.edu Aveek Shahryar
Mansur
b...@netcom.com Brian
Beker
C11...@AKRONVM.BITNET Marta
Osinski
C11...@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU KhamSeng
J. Vue
c...@stolaf.edu
Craig D Rice
c...@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu
Choua Lor
cst...@husc.harvard.edu
Christopher Stone
d...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu
Dia Vang
ds6...@cmsuvmb.cmsu.edu Doug
Shannon
ez040...@hamlet.ucdavis.edu Huab Vwj
(Houa Vue)
F...@UKANVM.BITNET Craig
Wilson
ful...@apollo.aoe.vt.edu Raymond
Fuller
g...@cc.gatech.edu
Gll Neiger
h...@s1.msi.umn.edu
Hao Chen
h...@let.ruu.nl
Hugo Quene
j...@bagend.atl.ga.us
Jan Isley
jcho...@leland.Stanford.EDU James
Chokey
jfo...@dorsai.dorsai.org
Joseph Fortt
j...@bnr.ca
Joe Vu
kao_...@csufresno.edu
Kao Lee
KHAN...@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU
Khang Tong
L...@ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE Martin
Schr"oder
lai...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Laivee Yang
l...@flute.aix.calpoly.edu
Linh Dang
l...@rpi.edu
Mousa Lee
lee_y...@csufresno.edu
Lee Yang
leon...@bostech.com Kent
Leonard
lind...@scs.unr.edu Pamela N.
Lindell
l...@spot.colorado.edu
Chomphet Ly
mcogh...@disc.dla.mil Martin
Coghlan
mersa...@iastate.edu
Pressie Yang
m...@acs.bu.edu
Milo Thao
mwgr...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu MEN WAI
GRACE LEE
nile...@wofford.edu
Roger Niles
p...@harp.aix.calpoly.edu Pao
Choua Her
phill...@bright.uoregon.edu Chris
Phillips
q...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael
Quinn
R3T...@AKRONVM.BITNET Trevor
Rasmussen
rmsy...@uci.edu Ruth
M. Sylte
rufi...@cae.wisc.edu J.
Rufinus
S...@jkhbhrc.byu.edu James
Robrecht
som...@anubis.network.com Somvay
Boualouang
SSZ...@AKRONVM.BITNET
Scott Szego
ST000...@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Steve
Mouacheupao
stcthe...@shrsys.hslc.org Noel S.
McFerran
stha...@usurp.Calvin.EDU
Sao Thao
tful...@muselab.ac.runet.edu Thia Ly
Fuller
thao0...@gold.tc.umn.edu
Lo Thao
t...@bnr.ca
Laly Thao
T...@carleton.edu Foom Thoj (Fong
Thao)
T...@carleton.edu
Tong Thao
t...@cda.mrs.umn.edu
Xay Thao
t...@cda.mrs.umn.edu Tou
Pao Xiong
t...@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu
Tou Thao
u...@titan.ucs.umass.edu Richard R
Urena
urli...@smurf.noris.de Matthias
Urlichs
v...@sas.upenn.edu
Vang Heu
vueb0...@gold.tc.umn.edu Robin C.
Vue-Benson
w...@pegasus.com
Wing Ng
yadal...@GaLcon.ERSYS.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff
Yadallee
yang0...@gold.tc.umn.edu
Tong Yang
Y...@carleton.edu
Cha Yang
yiav...@piper.hamline.edu
Yia Vang
Voted No
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
a...@kona.wes.army.mil Paul
Adams
al198...@academ01.mty.itesm.mx Eugenio
Sanchez
and...@uss-enterprise.bu.edu Anders
Jorgensen
a...@cs.albany.edu
James Ault
a...@rpi.edu
Alan Au
bal...@oberon.com Ken
Ballou
b...@pop.psu.edu
David Barr
CAI%MVF.Dec...@wigate.nic.wisc.edu
Y Cai
cjack...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Chris
Jackson
cm_le...@marvin.df.lth.se C
Malte Lewan
crouc...@flidh102.delcoelect.com Kenneth P.
Crouch, Jr.
crp5...@erfsys01.boeing.com
Chris Payne
c...@Think.COM
Christopher Ward
dra...@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca
Drayer
e...@msc.edu Edward
Bertsch
f...@shop.internet.net Frank
Boosman
f...@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean
P. Ryan
g...@acpub.duke.edu Gregory G.
Woodbury
g...@alcove.apana.org.au
Geoffrey Newman
HD0022%ALBNYVMS.bit...@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU
Chip Dunham
h...@ulmo.stud.slu.se Roger
H}kansson
J...@stthomas.edu
Ji Li
j...@draco.bison.mb.ca Jim
Jaworski
j...@globalvillag.com John R.
MacWilliamson
Kari.Hur...@fmi.fi Kari E.
Hurtta
kher...@ms.uky.edu Kenneth
Herron
lmcca...@freya.cs.umass.edu Lewis
McCarthy
m354...@er.uqam.ca KHOUANGVICHIT
Souphab
m...@ac.duke.edu
Michael Grubb
m...@RedBrick.COM
Maxime Taksar
r...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard
Miller
smai...@titan.ucs.umass.edu Ira
Smailer
sma...@turing.toronto.edu Marc
Moorcroft
srog...@tad.eds.com Steve
Rogers
stain...@bga.com
Dwight Brown
v.narin...@ic.ac.uk Vartan
Narinian
W...@bert.van.forintek.ca Ward
F. Bush
Votes in error
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
G...@jkhbhrc.byu.edu Paige
Liljenquist
! Invalid address
m126...@er.uqam.ca RASPHONE
XAYBANDITH
! No vote statement in message
P...@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
pat
! No ballot
SYS_VA...@carleton.edu
Sir_Gwalchmai
! No ballot
vpnet!vpnet!vagr...@xnet.com
! No name given
--Brennan T. Price, UVV
Running UseVote 3.0
------- End of Forwarded Message
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
2ND ATTEMPT 1996 - PASSED:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.laos/browse_frm/thread/a00a76934e45a86c/9ff253fa0663de9a?q=soc.culture.hmong++voting+results+1996&rnum=3#9ff253fa0663de9a
billones Oct 31 1996, 3:00 am show options
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, soc.culture.laos
Followup-To: news.groups
From: billo...@primenet.com - Find messages by this author
Date: 1996/10/31
Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.hmong passes 179:23
Reply to Author | Forward | Print | View Thread | Show original |
Report Abuse
RESULT
unmoderated group soc.culture.hmong passes 179:23
There were 179 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 202 valid
votes.
There were 6 invalid ballots.
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and
NO)
votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator
of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.hmong Discussion of Hmong people and its culture.
Proponent: Kag Khetsavanh <ptal...@ea.oac.uci.edu>
Mentor: none
Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <billo...@primenet.com>
RATIONALE: soc.culture.hmong
The purpose of the newsgroup "soc.culture.hmong" is to
provide a forum for discussion on issues related to the Hmong
people of Laos. Presently, more and more Hmong students are
accessing the Internet. This newsgroup will provide the main
domain for them to congregrate.
CHARTER: soc.culture.hmong
All issues related to Hmong may be discussed in this forum. It is
expected that although this newsgroup will not be moderated, it will
be a platform for a lively discussion about the culture, politics and
social issues relating to Hmong at home and abroad. We welcome all
netters to learn more about people and culture.
END CHARTER.
DISTRIBUTION:
These results have been posted to the following newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
soc.culture.laos
These results have also been forwarded to the following mailing lists:
Laonet lao...@zac.lao.net
Hmoob h...@ripken.oit.unc.edu
soc.culture.hmong Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
103645.2...@CompuServe.COM
105026.1...@compuserve.com Henry E.
Buehler
2...@ns.net Dr.
Lue Vang
2d83xio...@vmsa.csd.mu.edu
96002...@lambton.on.ca
Pafoua Vang
a...@freenet.carleton.ca Nigel
Allen
afn20...@afn.org Citizens Against Communist Chinese
Propaganda
a...@rohan.sdsu.edu An
Van Lam
anhouyvanisv...@ets.org adisack
nhouyvanisvong
aphia...@eagle.wbm.ca Amphon Guy
Phiaxay
as99...@american.edu Amoun
Sayaovong
bane_thas...@juno.com Alisak T
Sanavongsay
b...@prairienet.org
David Vang
bch...@gil.com.au Benja Chanasit
<bch...@gil.com.au>
b...@demthu.saomai.org Binh
Q. Pham
bliat...@nwpower.net Bruce T. Bliatout
(Thojpov)
Blong.Xion...@tc.umn.edu
Blong Xiong
bnoua...@qualcomm.com Bandith Nouanesengsy
X82163
bon...@pipeline.com MITCHELL I.
BONNER
b...@ibm.ibm.fr Brice
MUANG-KHOT
buy...@ix.netcom.com Ci Lis
[buy...@ix.netcom.com]
bwo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us Bryan
Douglas Worra
carl...@macalester.edu Janet
Carlson
c...@stolaf.edu
Valeng Cha
chaiy...@pilot.msu.edu Somvadee
Chaiyavej
cha...@utdallas.edu
Chakra Chau
cha...@siamese.com Chanon
Panawat
chaova...@pobox.com Chaovalit
Charoenpanperm
c...@microsoft.com Chau Vu
<c...@microsoft.com>
chv...@uncc.edu
Cher Vang
C...@SDDPC.SANNET.GOV
Cha Moua
cmv...@ucdavis.edu Chy
Monivon Vang
ctjasper...@ucdavis.edu Cory
Jasperson
C...@ie.twsu.edu Chong
Yee Lee
d-v...@students.uiuc.edu
David Vang
d...@uclink4.berkeley.edu Choo
Hawj Yaj
deni...@nova.cainc.com Denise
Darnell Hall
d...@csd.uwm.edu
Dia Vang
d...@lexicon.net.au Pao
Saykao
d...@ozonline.com.au Natrudy
Saykao
dunni...@maroon.tc.umn.edu Timothy
Dunnigan
e...@syix.com Christopher
Estep
E...@ie.twsu.edu Eric
T. Loo
f...@ucdavis.edu Fenglaly
C. Lee
f...@fz-rossendorf.de Thomas
Fietz
f...@merle.acns.nwu.edu Carwil
James
F...@EMUVAX.EMICH.EDU
Fue Kue
fmed...@md2.md.chula.ac.th Boonnart
Laisnitsarekul
garmo...@sure.net Somsak
Puckdeekul
Gonou...@Colorado.EDU
Gonou Ly
g...@ella.mills.edu Youa
Xiong
gronb...@cphl.mindspring.com Ray
Gronberg
h...@river.it.gvsu.edu
KongPheng Hang
h...@hiof.no Hans
Petter Wille
i...@rempt.xs4all.nl Irina
Rempt
JIR...@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
Michael Erard
jmdu...@students.wisc.edu John
M. Duffy
jngu...@raleigh.ibm.com Jimmy
Nguyen
JSext...@aol.com jOSEPH sEXTON
Jsext...@aol.com
jul...@fwb.gulf.net Jules
Dubois
k...@star.noblestar.net John
Farrell
kalvinkhetfav...@unn.unisys.com Kalvin
Khetsavanh
kbo...@vax2.rain.gen.mo.us
Khamthoune Butts
keopr...@ohsu.edu Kham-One
Keopraseuth
khang...@pilot.msu.edu
Kou Khang
k...@bbn.com
Kim Heng
k...@ucla.edu
Kim Woo
koobm...@FreeMark.COM
Koobmeej Vang
k...@net-quest.com
K.Thos.McGann,D.C.
k...@juno.com Xue S
Khang
k...@violin.aix.calpoly.edu
kong vang
kwatt...@sas.upenn.edu Kirk
Wattles
k...@glo.be Kris
Deckers
lars.olof.fagerst...@mailbox.swipnet.se Lars Olof
Fagerstrom
ldrou...@aenix.fr Laurent
DROULERS
lorac...@ccmail.ca.boeing.com
LVang%ESS-DV.EB...@iss.ebsco.com
Lee V. Vang
l...@ix.netcom.com Lee
V. Vang
Medinaco...@leeca7.leeca.ohio.gov
KhamSeng J. Vue
mjmil...@dsuper.net Michael-John S.
Milloy
MKK...@ie.twsu.edu
Mony Khim
mlv...@prairienet.org May Lee
Lo Vang
m...@students.wisc.edu
May Ly
mmi...@IMAP2.ASU.EDU M.
Reynolds
moua0...@mach1.wlu.ca
Xu Moua
MOUAC%f16....@mhs.elan.af.mil
Cheng Moua
moua...@ptw.com
Moua Max
msoy...@mistik.express.net Mustafa
Soysal MS57
Nai.Xion...@tc.umn.edu
n...@nataa.fr.eu.org Nat
Makarevitch
nice...@email.unc.edu
Touger Vang
nine...@csd.uwm.edu
Shoua Yang
norb...@forum.org.kh
Norbert Klein
oakma...@maroon.tc.umn.edu Scott A.
Oakman
o...@viking.mv.com Olav
Nieuwejaar
ollivier.rob...@eurocontrol.fr Ollivier
Robert
Pan.Thongv...@cc.monash.edu.au
PAN
p...@thepentagon.com Panot
Hoonwan
p...@byu.edu Robert Craig
Harman
paus...@astro.ocis.temple.edu
p...@cancom.net Trevor
Tymchuk
Phan...@aol.com
Phan Pan
p...@leicester.ac.uk Pete
Humble
p...@virginia.edu
Patricia Cain
pong...@garnet.berkeley.edu Pongsak
Rattanawong
psu12...@odin.cc.pdx.edu Ia
S. Cha
pub01...@innet.be Paporn
Kaveewacharanont
r...@BayNetworks.COM Rajat
Singh
rasph...@saturne.info.uqam.ca Dith
RASPHONE
rpayn...@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Robin A.
Paynter
rufi...@dxcern.cern.ch J
Rufinus
S00...@grog.ric.edu
Sinjin Khang
sac24...@saclink.csus.edu
Wasana Xiong
sac38...@saclink.csus.edu
Hansen Vaj
sac65...@saclink.csus.edu
Chimeng Yang
sac70...@saclink.csus.edu Chong
Lisa Vang
Sack.Thammavon...@MCI.Com Anousack
Thammavongsa
sam_sanavong...@juno.com Sam
Sanavongsay
sas...@unx.sas.com Bruce
Tindall
sayco...@zippy.sonoma.edu Kongkeo
Saycocie
say...@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU Victor
Saykao
say...@yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au Vong
Saykao
sech...@scf-fs.usc.edu
Se Chang
shime...@cs.nps.navy.mil Timothy
Shimeall
s...@nyx.net
Shrisha Rao
siriv...@ea.oac.uci.edu Chanthavone
Sirivong
s...@csufresno.edu Syripanomkone
Nhouyvanisvong
somv...@adc.com Somvay
Boualouang
sop...@linkonline.net Sophon
Varnichpun
Soump...@magic.dcrt.nih.gov Phoukong K.
Soumpholphakdy
s...@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Sarah
McLain
s...@prism.gatech.edu Sarah
Shealy
s...@ucdavis.edu
Sengsavang S. Ly
stha...@Calvin.EDU
sao thao
sxi...@hawaii.edu Stanley
T Xiong
tegtm...@panix.com John
Tegtmeier
tengv...@ac.net
Teng Vang
thani...@lightspeed.net Thanit
Hasadsri
t...@nortel.ca
Laly Thao
tha...@students.uwlax.edu
Pa Thao
t...@selway.umt.edu
Mee Thao
thor0...@maroon.tc.umn.edu
Lauren Thor
thras...@zippy.sonoma.edu Keo
Xayavong
t...@ucdavis.edu Tzexa
C. Lee
tom...@nortel.ca tom
(t.l.) lee
t...@cts.com Troy
Prasouvo
t...@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu
Tou Thao
txi...@rfc.com Tou
Xiong
tyco...@ix.netcom.com James
Tranlong
u3601...@mahidol.ac.th Isara
Santaannop
u3617...@student.chula.edu Krittichai
Tarathammatikorn
u37...@md2.md.chula.ac.th Pitipong
Suramethakul
ucy...@mcl.ucsb.edu
Chuck Yang
ukitt...@mcl.ucsb.edu Soudary
Kittivong
umoua...@mcl.ucsb.edu
Anong Moua
unde0...@frank.mtsu.edu Melinda
Vongdaraxay
u...@msuvx2.memphis.edu tou
t. lee
v...@scf-fs.usc.edu
MayKia Vang
vang...@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu Chia
V. Thao
vang...@cowley.uwlax.edu Samuel
Neng Vang
v...@sas.upenn.edu
Vang Heu
Victor.Soup...@m.cc.utah.edu Victor
Souphom
V...@UBmail.ubalt.edu Vajara
Donavanik
vueb0...@gold.tc.umn.edu Robin
Vue-Benson
vuex0...@maroon.tc.umn.edu Xis
Toni Vwj
xion0...@gold.tc.umn.edu Yuepheng
L. Xiong
xion9...@uidaho.edu KOU
T. XIONG
xio...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
Ker Xiong
xio...@ucsu.Colorado.EDU HEAVEN IS A PLACE
ON EARTH
xion...@cslab.uwlax.edu
Houa Xiong
xkh...@gnn.com Xue
S. Khang
X...@EMUVAX.EMICH.EDU
Xay Ly
yanxi...@uclink2.berkeley.edu
Yang Xiong
yee_xi...@macgate.csuchico.edu
Yee Xiong
Yer.Mou...@tc.umn.edu
Yer Moua
yly...@students.wisc.edu Yer
Lee Yang
Y...@inquo.net Greg
LeVee
ywjph...@winternet.com
Yee Chang
z...@america.com Laurie
Devereaux
Voted No
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
b...@benson.nosc.mil Kirk
Beitz
b...@STS.NET Bill
Smith
b...@datasync.com Martin H.
Booda
bres...@tiac.net Brian
Bresnahan
b...@kenosis.com Bruce
Baugh
b...@clark.net John W.
Tucker
cbst...@phoenix.Princeton.EDU
Chris Stone
k...@netcom.com Kim
DeVaughn
l...@zk3.dec.com
Larry Smith
m.cucin...@net1-01.bcs.it Marco
Cucinato
mtp...@isca.uiowa.edu Michael
T Pins
n...@cimio.co.uk Nick
Waterman
r...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard
Miller
s...@indigo.ie
Simon Grant
snow...@ix.netcom.com
Snowbin
stain...@bga.com
Dwight Brown
stam...@stamper.com Chris
Stamper
t...@draziw.com
Ryan
t...@sybase.com Tony
Basoglu
t...@nortel.ca Thiep
Samountry
tlaw...@amug.org Todd C.
Lawson
w...@rtd.com
Jane Woo
z...@cjnetworks.com Ned
Fleming
Votes in error
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
m...@csd.uwm.edu
Myny Yang
! No ballot
Phou.M.Xi...@lawrence.edu
! No vote statement in message
ptal...@ea.oac.uci.edu Paul
Tallon
! No ballot
ptess...@concentric.net Preecha
Tessalee
! No ballot
salc...@pinon.ccu.uniovi.es
Chema
! No vote statement in message
v...@students.uiuc.edu
daniel vang
! No ballot
phabej
Thanks for sharing the history of this forum. Also thanks to those
founders as well.
phabej
drpa...@dex.hmoob.net
the first few Hmong who venture into the Internet, long ahead of me...
I only enter the Net in 1995. And I cannot even remember if I have
ever had any contact with him!!! I only found out about him when I was
researching about the history of Newsgroup during our 1996 attempt to
create SCH...
So, if any one know of him, ask him to drop by SCH again.
Pao
Tsujsua Dluag
he's a buddy of mine....we even majored in the same field at the same
school...right now,
he's in seattle, washington working for boeing.....lost contact with
him a few years back....