Zhen, What is Xwmkab?
Moobsib
really mean. Can you shed some light on this?
Thanks,
ms
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
paub tas xyov los twg los tiag, or whether stories are true or
not...or whether people make up these stories or not...but here is the
sotry i heard..
a long time ago (dont' even know when), muaj ib tus tibneeg...nws pab
hmoob heev..nws lub npe hu ua "xwm kab los yej"...and i still dont'
even know what that means. xwm kab los yej was a military man,
pwerful, unbeatable, and very fierce. overtime, his military skill
grew, to the point of making his name well known all over the land.
however, he has a weakness...he couldn't be in all place at the same
time...so he came up with an idea...to have his "name (flag and
logo???)" posted on all his people's door...to let the enemies know
that "if you mess with them, you are messing with me..". because of
this, all the people of the land began to "lu xwm kab" rau lawd cov
qhov rooj, knowing that the enemies will not touch them if they below
to xwm kab los yej's group.....
so....what is the meaning of the word? i don't know...from this
story, its just a name.
yaweh
zhen
xyov naj. thaum i kuv noog noog cov laus tiam si kuv tsis nco qab
lawm. raws li kuv nco tau mas xwb kab no yog 'dab 4 ceg qaum ntuj' sub
(los 4 ceg qaum dab tsi no?). don't count 100% on that one.
tiam si, lo lus 'xwm' no yog suav lo lus 'si' as in the number 4.
piv txwv,
los tuam -> lai da (the first one come, the big one)
los lwm -> lai liang (the second one come)
los xab -> lai san (the third one come)
los xwm -> lai si (the fourth one come)
....
sorry... will try to get back to you.
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
there is a difference between tus xwm kab los tim hauv tag (which i
still dont' undertand), and xwm kab los ntawm qhov rooj. tus los tim
hauv tag, for a hmong, yog hais txog nyiaj txiag lawm (yeej ntxws ceeb
ntxws)...i'm not sure what the connection is between the one lo tim
hauv tag, and the 4 ones los ntawm qhov rooj..yes...muaj 4 daim los
ntawm qhov rooj..
koj hais yog lawm...hais txog 4 tus tim tswv ntuj kav 4 ceg kaum ntuj
yog muaj 4 tus tiag...temsis ho muaj 4 daim los qhov rooj
thiab....maybe to resember the 4 gods..i really dont' know. my
interest however lies in when/where/why how xwm kab resembles money
for hmong.
yaweh
Hmong-Lao
Lam pov ob lo li qhov kuv tau hnov rau nej xav thiab. Ib tug xibfwb
qhia kab lis kev cai Hmoob hais li no:
Thaum ub, Hmoob poob kev teev xwm kab lawm ces thiaj rov mus nug Suav.
Suav qhia Hmoob hais tias "Xwm Kab Los Yej". Tom qab no mam paub hais
tias Suav qhia tsis ncaj lawm, qhov tseeb yog "Xwm Kab Los Yeej".
Ob lo lus no txhais li no:
Xwm Kab Los Yeej = Plaub txoj kev muaj yeej
Xwm Kab Los Yej = Plaub txoj kev lov ceg / Niag neeg laus lov ceg (nco
tsis meej lawm)
Phoojywg zhen, koj yog tus paub lus Suav zoo ho pab muab phi seb yog
qhov twg.
HL
phwvnyawm
Tav no es koj tseem tsis tau paub tus dab xwm kab los?
Tus xwm kab no teev kom nyiaj thiab kub khiav cuag li cas los rau hauv
yus tsev nad.......nyiaj thiaj kub los txog lawm txhob khiav rov qab
nad......vim tus xwb kab yog tus hais kom nyiaj thiab kub txhob khiav
rov qab........koj teev nws ces nws pab txias kom nyiaj thiab kub nrog
koj nyob.
Lub thaj ua cov tseem coj dab( qub kev cai)......feem ntau mas yog
leej twg nqis tsev lawm mas yuav tsum teev tus xwm kab no..... txhua-
ua xyoo yuav tsum tua ib tug qaib (lau qaib) loj kom zoo saib los txi
tus xwm kab hmo hu plig naj......lawv tsis lam txi thaum nruab xyoo li
nawb.......yeej yog thaum xyoo tag yuav tawm xyoo tshiab xwb-b.
Peb tsev kwv tij mas tsis muaj lub thaj lawm......peb tsuas laig tus
xwm xab txhua-ua zaus laig dab lawm xwb.
Thaum koj laig poj yawm txwv koob tag......koj laig niam txiv ncej dab
ncej qhuas,ncej cub ncej taws, niam txiv dab roog,niam txiv xwm kab
los yeej,xwm kab los pov tag ces koj mam tawm mus laig xeeb teb xeeb
chaw.
YT
Xwm Kab yog Xwm Kav. Xwm Kav yog Sivyis txiv. Muaj caij kuv mam li
muab zaj no coj los qhia rau peb sawv daws tau mloog. Kuv tau noog
kuv ib tug txiv hlob uas paub Hmoob li keeb kwm zoo. Nws kuj tham tau
yam muaj quab kawm li thiab.
Kuv twb tau nrog nws tham hauv xov tooj cua rau ib tsoom Hmoob sawv
daws tau mloog lawm thiab tsis sub.
Txawjvamyias
brushoff
Jesus to her, retarto Hmongs, what can I say.
kuamemiab
kuamemiab
Rawsli kuv xav mas ntshe Hmoob muab tus xwmkab no ua yuamkev lawm.
Cia kuv ho hais ib zaj rau peb sawvdaws xav seb. Yog nej pom zaj
movie Moses lawm ces yuav yoojyim rau nej totaub thiab yuav totaub
zoodua.
Lub sijhawm cov Israel poob ua cov Egypt qhev ntawd Vajtswv tau tso
Moses los cawm thiab coj cov Israel tawm ntawn tebchaws Egypt mus,
tabsis huabtais Falaus tsis pub lawv muskiag li. Vajtswv tau hais rau
Moses kom hmo ntawd, uantej lawv yuav tawm, kom Moses mus hais rau cov
neeg Israel ib yig tua ib tug tsiaj thiab muab cov ntshav pleev
qhovrooj. Thaum Vajtswv los rautxim rau cov Egypt Vajtswv thiajli zam
tau lawv.
Qhov Hmoob ua xwmkab thiab muab ntshav pleev qhovrooj yog coj los
thaiv dab qus, kab mob, kev nkeeg kom txhob raug yus tsevneeg. Vim
Hmoob twb kawm tau thaum Vajtswv hais rau cov Israel tsuasyog Hmoob
tsis nco meej ces Hmoob muab ntxiv mentsis coj mus ua dab lawm xwb.
kuamemiab
kuamemiab
Hnub i koj nrhiavnrhiav Vwj lod? Kuv muaj Vwj uas yog Yaj Daus cov
kwvtij ntawd tus email thiab losmas. Wb sibntsib ob peb zaug tabsis
ntshe twb tau li 2 xyoos no tsis ntsib yawg lawm. Yawg niamyau yog
peb cov nkauj Hmoob Vaj Hmoob Xasneum ne. Kuv paub yawg zoo thiab
losmas. Kuv pojniam thiab duabntxoo lawv ua phoojywg thaum ub thiab
ces peb kuj sibpaub thiab. Yog xav nrog nws tham no sau email rau kuv
personal es kuv mamli qhia koj nawb.
Nyaj niamtij nej sawvdaws nyobzoo thiab pod? Kuv ces tseg tau ib ntus
no tuaj xauj los hais tsis tau ib los dabtsi tseemceeb li lawm. Saib
mas zooli Moobsib hais uas txomfav zog lawm sub nas...
kuamemiab
noogdlej
hais dab neeg es tub tsi paub tias yog muaj tseeb los cuav. Lub npe
kiag twb twv tsis tau es ho tseem naj nub teev????????
"long time ago...don't know when??????" haub yauj zoo le nuav es tseem
coj lug khaav ua tug dlaab tsi naw? Nim keej keej zaaj ub zaaj nua es
yuav kuam has dlaab tsi los taij tau es tsaam nuav luas xaav paub qhov
tseeb ho hastas "long time ago (don't even know when)" tuaj lawm
hab.....yuav has tau taag kev casab ua luaj! Ces dlaim xwmkaab nuav
yog has txug military issue xwb es cov coj kevcai qub hos teev ua luaj
mas? Tsi muaj ntaub ntawv teevcas ces yog lub nruag xwb? Hob yog
yuav sib caam tej nuav tag tag mas kuv ntshai koj lub cooj qab yuav ua
tsi tav le lau....heheheheheh
noogdlej
ps....txhob chim chim tsaam plaub hau dlawb.....laam tso dlaag
xwb.....koj yuav teev xwmkaab los kav tsij teev......
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
xob txhawj mas..tseem paub dlua le koj paub txug koj tug vaajtswv os
yaweh
noogdlej
rau rau sab nrug kuv thaam txug tug xwmkaab kws koj has tssi muaj qaab
muaj hau, pig kig yuav ua cooj qab tsi tav. Tsaam nuav koj ib ce kub
lug pw tsi tsaug zug lawm puas yog huh? Kuv tug Vaajtswv ces yog tug
kws koj txeeb nwg nub npe hu xwb mas...ua caag koj ho tsi muab koj lub
npe hu ua xwm kaab nab? Lub hov mas phim koj dlua rua qhov koj tuab
nam tsi meej pem le koj zaag lug nruag na.....
I am having so much with you.....just like playing a little kid....ha
lug nruag lug nriv nrawv tso quav puv tog thawv. Has lug nruag lug
nriv nru....tso quav puv tog tsuj....hehehehehe
noogdlej
ps....tsi yog kuv saib tsi taug Moob tug xwm kaab, yog nrug koj uasi
xwb......hahahahahaha....
Moobsib
Koj tsi tso ib nyuas tug neev taw rua peb pum le kuj los ncu koj kawg
hab os. Mej tsi tuaj ces lub nyuas zog nuav nphob zuj zug tuaj ces
yuav tau txomfaav es tej hau kaab, hau kev txhaj le ndlaug lwb leeg
tog mej suav dlawg xwb os. Thaus twg mej tuaj ua naab noj naab tw lawm
ces kuv maam su xwb mas... hahahahahahaha...
Tsoom bojyaig suav dlawg, ua mej tsaug rua tej txuj mej tau faib. Kuj
yeej tsi tau paub tas nam "Xwmkaab" hov yog teev kuas pov fwm plig
nyaj plig kub le ov. Ua le tseem yog moog qe/kawm ntawm Suav lug siv/
teev hab xwb laiv, yuam? Yog le ntawd lu lug "Xwmkaab Losyeej" nuav
kuj yog lug Suav los kaj? Muab ua tuab zoo ntsuag lug mas yug tsob nam
Hmoob tej nam kev lig kevcai dlaab qhuas nuav kuj los txomfaav kawg
hab, yuam? Nam tsi muaj qaab muaj hau le sub as..
MS
Moobsib
the evil" los sis tug phem xwb rua qhov tej thaus sis Hmoob yeej muab
tej tug tuabneeg phem hu ua dlaab hab.
ms
kuamemiab
Moobsib,
Tsov lug tim ko lawm nawb! Tsodlaag xwb; xyov tim nreejtwg ais pheej
tuaj xauj kuas tsis thaab nam ha dlaabtsi le xwb'ov, kuv naj. Ntu
nuav koj yeem los muaj ntau yaam tuaj rua suavdlawg thaam hab kuj los
yog nyaumtsawv lawm hab ntaag. Thau July 4th kuv tsis xyeej sijhawm
tes tsis thaab tuaj moog hau paa'av le. Nyaj mej ob peb tug tuaj rau
tod hab poj? Yog tuaj no yeej yuav ntsib qho tug hab. Yeem los ncu
koj hab kuam maam le nrhav caij seb puas tau tuaj tim ko sai. Yog
tuaj ces kawg lub summer nuav xwb, yog dlhau lawm tes ntshe yuav yog
muaj tej yaam tseemceeb txhaj le yuav tuaj tau lawm xwb lauj.
hastxug dlaab/dab mas ntshe leejtwg, tsis has cov coj kevcai qub hab
tshab, los yeej ntshai taag le sub lauj. Yog dlaab tseem muaj tus zoo
hab tes kuj tsis yog dlaab lawd vim tas tug kws phem peb tub hu ua nam
puj dlaab, dlaabtuag etc. huas thau yus raug xaa moog nyob tuab leeg
puab hub hastas moog ua dlaab ua tsuv luag nuav niv. Dlaab tes tsis
muaj leejtwg xaav txaav ti, kuas thau yus ib paas nqus tsis lug lawd
tug txiv muam/qhuabke cale muaj tug ntsuj hov yuamndlag moog le lawm
xwb, txawm yuav txais kuam hab tsis txais los nwg yeej tsis kk le.
Thau tseem uaj neej nyog los yeej ntshai hos tub tuag tshuav tug ntsuj
lawm xwb los tseem nthai quasqeeg le hos.
kuamemiab
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
koj nyim paub tso quav hab os? kuv xav mas ntshe koj tsi paub nua?
vim tas koj tub tsi paub diffrencce between facts/beliefs le ne
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
koj ntshai vaajtswv hab os? i'm surprise koj ntshai dlaab vaajtswv
hab....but then again, you shuld be...cuz he could snap a finger and
you could be dead..sab zoo tag tag yom
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
i'm still surprise you are asking what dab is....tau 10 xyoo nuav es
koj tsi pay attention le?
yaweh
Zoo
bridge and move on to better thing. To the claims of some people,
hmong exist for over 50 centuries with xwm kab and go no where but
get stucke in time.
During the french revolution, 1000s of prisoners were released, but
few days later, 1000s came back and asked to be thrown in jail and
locked up again.
you are now freed, so run as fast and as far as you can from it. xwm
kab have nothing to do with being hmongness, if it does then the hmong
pony tail "plaubhau quav mab" also is. I don't see any hmong with
plaubhau quav ma for virtually my entire life, only in picture and
hear say.
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
xwm kab...no relevance in life? actually, nothing in life is relevant
to life....the bible god is the same, a rock is the same..school is
the same...etc...
my point? sometimes opinions make sense..and somethings they
don't...the reason? it is becuase the person making the opinion is
not making sense...or he/she is not being true to her/his opinion.
yaweh
cwjmem
Any religion that is forced to give money is it just an commercial
business. There are over 150 different religions on this planet, No
one religion is better than any others. If it is not beneficial to
the worshippers, they themselves will quit doing it. So, choose the
one that serve your interest and leave other alone.
Regardless of what religion one person worship, a person needs a
place, atlar, statue...in hmong case, Xwm kab, is fatherly figure that
protect the family, while dab roog is a motherly figure that fence off
evil spirit from entering the house as in our beliefs. The same as
Buddha statue, Christian cruxcified crosses, sacred mountains (native
Americans), Madam Pele (hawaiian), all of theses ritual things are all
asking for divine protections. If you are such perfect, then you may
not need to worship anything like the communist folks in China.
However, during SARS scared in China, most people turned themselves to
Tao temple for divine protection, if you can remember.
Keep in mind that Christians and Muslims are the most destructive
religions on earth. They have been fighting to conquer the world
before and after the birth of Jesus and Mohamed, and will continue as
long as their followers worship them. Look at Mayan and Inca
civilization disappeared because of Christians, as well as the whole
mess in Middle east because the Muslim. And asia, southern Thailand,
indonasia...muslim folks cause...Look at asian nations, predominately
Budhist folks, how many countries that fight over the religions...None
right! Did Hmong ever go to war just because religion?
Moobsib
neej, cais dlaab rua dlaab xwb os. Kuv ces, le YOB has, nam pam neej
pam dlaab le es...
ms
kuamemiab
Yawm tsuj,
There's no such thing as dlaab Vaajtswv. Do you mean evil god/devil
god? You can create one but no such name exist, however, evil and
devil do exist. If worshiping them make you happy then go ahead. No
one ever asked to stop.
kuamemiab
kuamemiab
Then what religious you believe and please help me identify one
religion that never need any money for operation? Hmong, on the other
hand, taking money and meat on the daily basis especially txivneeb,
and other who perform funeral rite at the funeral also taking money
and meat as well.
Kuv saib zoo li koj pom ib sab xwb sub rather then see both sides of
the spectrum will give you more precise answer.
kuamemiab
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
because koj "txais ib ntaa" ua neej, you would say such a thing. i
dont' blame you though, even some converters are thinking with outside
influence..which is normal..but it doens't mean it is "right" for a
hmong.
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
no one is worshipping the devil...but you on the other hand are
worshipping a bastard...i'm just kinda surprise you dont' know what a
bastard is.
yaweh
tee...@hotmail.com
It seems Hmoob Xwmkab is very much based on Chinese Fengshui, which
considers the four cardinals of the planet as fundamentals to
determinism. Keeping bad spirits out and good spirits in may be lumped
in.
As to Txim Xwmkab, it is all about financial security. I wonder if a
credit card with a large credit line would suffice in lieu of a trunk
of silver bars.
Teev
cwjmem
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kuamemiab
tsujsua,
you don't need to be surprise but surprise yourself instead, because
what you are worshiping you will never recognize until tus txiv muam
lossis tus tawkev actually send you the wishes and close the gate
behind.
Please help me translate these terms:
dab niam dab txiv
dab timtswv plaubceg kaum ntuj
which all of these dab = devils that you are worshiping but yet you
are denying that you are worshiping any devils. I could be wrong by
your twist of faith but please don't denying what you're celebrating.
For example, the marriage itself also include dab, "the devil," in
contradicted to what your denying that you are not worship any dab,
again please help me explain these dab = evil/devil for me. It's so
clear that these devils are in the house and highly respect by all the
animist and you are contradict yourself totally.
tsuj, please read these and help me understand what these dab = devil/
evils mean to me: http://members.fortunecity.com/tuammej/id102.htm
kuamemiab
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
i wasn't even talking about what i worship...however, i am talking
about that little bastard kid taht you thought it was god...its just
surpriseing that every day, a new jesus is born as a bastard and
you're sitting on yoru ass instead of going to worship him also...you
did it once to the bible god when bastard jesus was born...now...do
the same thing to the rest of the 5.5 million bastards in the
world...jesus will understand just as god did.
until you know that there is a difference between a king and a
bastard, koj tus txiv muam yuav tsi paub xav koj mus ntuj tawg li.
yaweh
kuamemiab
hahaha yawm tsuj, your refusal to explain the questions I asked did
not surprise me a bit. You still haven't change since the first day
that we met. Your conversations are very destructive and why?
Because you only see one way street and very much blinded yourself
when cross it to the other side without thinking twice before you took
your first step. With your highly recognize publicity and an civil
engineering, however, it is sad that your mind couldn't even go pass
the word bastard to demoralize those you always......"hated."
I will not need your help to taw kev mus ntuj tawg because I am aiming
higher then your thought. You do and act according to our belief.
We are what we eat and we go where we tell and push people to go even
their spirits. Remember Tswbtshoj was the first Hmong according to
Hmong belief so you also the descendants of your highly bastard king
pig's son unless you believe in evolution but never thought that you
do either because you are so strict with txiv muam.
kuamemiab
Born2beHmong
> ms
kuv yawmsib,
koj puas nco koj post ua kom hais muaj ethical and principle
lawm....kuv yeej hais rau koj tus ua tij hais tias, kuv yuav tau
follow koj ib ntus no...yuav tau hais lus kom yog lus thiab zoo miv
miv kom zoo mloog nawb....smile!
Born
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
it wasn't a refusal...lets just put it this way, how does one explain
sex to a 4 month old baby...when you grow up, and i you still want to
know, then ask me again...in the mean time, keep following your
bastard kid and you will do fine.
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
by the way, law of logic...hmoob muaj ib txoj kev xwb....that means
100% will go there to meet vajtswv....
you have two ways....following a bastard.and going to hell...50/50 is
not so promising, most likely you will be going to hell for disobeying
god when he said "there shall only be one god..and that's me"...i hope
you understand this..if you want me to use sign language so that you
would understand better, pleae let me no
yaweh
Born2beHmong
thiaj li hais lus yog rau post no xwb nawb...yog hais txog religion
os. nej ib cov no, yuav tau rov los xav tias yus twg yog neeg
nkagsiab, paubtab, thiab yog neeg coj ethical and principle lawm--vim
li cas tej thaum es yus yuav mus tham lus zoo li cov neeg uas yog
religion fanatic and cult lawm xwb. qhov no, ua rau yus tsi yog ib
tug neeg coj zoo thiab xav dav kom pom txhua yam religion nawb.
vim yog thaum twg hais txog zaj no, ces zoo li txawm yuav muaj sib
"Tshum" koj li kuv li tag li xwb. can we have a commom ground? es
yog peb coj zoo li no xwb, peb yuav ua li cas yog cov neeg coj tau
nruab nrab thiab hais lus kom yog lus naj. peb txoj kev teevhawm
thiab xavtau, qhov ntawd yog peb li ntiag tus nyob nraim rau hauv peb
nruabsiab. vim ob leeg neeg tsi teevhawm ib txoj kev ntseeg li nawb--
yog thaum peb tham lus, peb txhob tham kom dhau dhau ces tsi muaj lus
sib cam sib ceg li.
yuav ua li cas es religion thiaj li tsi muaj war, kawg peb cov nyob
hauv SCH no kiag xwb...twg yuav ua war nev....LOL!
Born
kwv...@aol.com
lao, yawg sib thiab phwvnyawm (kuv mas kuv ho hu lawv hu ua cov as
nyas luam no vim kuv laus dua lawv lawm) los ua 3 tug tuaj ua cov saib
kev ncaj ncees nyob hauv no ne. tam sim no kuj kom lawv 3 tug no tuaj
txiav txim xwb los mas. kuv saib hnub i phwvnyawm twb muab kuv xaj
xuam tag kuv thiaj ua siab tsis mus tom july 4th lawv lov. kuv tus
laus no kiag twb mloog yawg phwvnyawm lawv tej kev xaj xuam lawm ua
cas yawg tsuj thiab kuamemiab thiab yuav tsis mloog no mas. los yog
nej tseem yuav tos kom cov dev laus tsis zov vaj li peb no tuaj muab
kev xaj xuam rau nej thiab tso mas haj...haj...haj....
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
koj kuj pab kuv.....yog koj hais li kod na....saib kev ncaj ncees tiag
ces kav tsij paub kuv....
mloog qhov no...
menyuam tsawb lawd muab hu ua "vajtswv"..
hmoob teev dabqhua...lawd muab hu ua "ntxwj nyoog".....
yog koj saib kev ncaj ncees tiag ces...kav tsij los hais zoo zoo rau
cov ruam kom nkag siab xwb mas..
yaweh
Moobsib
Tswb Tshoj, yog Moob tug kaas tsaub... hehehehehe... haib lawm, meb
naj...
ms
Moobsib
dlawb ua ntej nawb..
Born yeej has yog lawm. Kuv saib mas yawm Tsuj, Noodlej hab Kuammeiab
mej muab has nchaav hab mob zog lawm. Yog yuav debate los sis caav pem
kuas yug zaaj tswvyim los sis lub zeemmuag tshaab rua suav dlawg pum
mas yeej muaj txuj kev has kuas muaj respect rua yug tug opponents.
Yug muab luas teem tix tim phaab ntsaa los luas kuj txawj muab yug
teem tix rua lwm lub kaum hab. Le ntawd ces yim has yim chob lub sab
ntxiv xwb.
Peb suav dlawg yeej paub tseeb tas kev ntseeg txhua hom yeej tsaus
ntuj quas nti, tsis muaj leej twg pum txhij pum txhua. Tawm sis pawg
twg coj zoo hab muaj peevxwm ces pawg ntawd kuj los muaj zug
econimically dlua. Dhlau ntawd txawm yuav yog ntseeg hom twg los yeej
tseem yog yug ib tsob Hmoob. Yog le mas txawm has nyaav npaum twg los
yuav tau tsom nroov qhov issue has es txhaj tsi chob sab heev.
Ua tsaug,
MS
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
the belief of tswv tshoj is a "ruler", just as the belief of jesus is
"god's son"...but yes...factually, similar to jesus, tswv tshoj is
nothing more than a bastard kid....no one is denying that...
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
has le nuav xwb tsi yog has mob...i'm not sure if he's reading what i
wrote...but to tell the truth..i usually only read the 1st and second
sentence and base my bastardizing on those two sentences...if he asks
me to explain things, then i will take the time to do it..but if he
wants to be a child and talk like that, then of course, i have to
lower my standard a little bit so that he would understand my words...
overall, i like talking to people like him...but i have to admit, he
is smarter than nongdlej...just that sometimes his blind faith really
does blind him to the point of stupidity and i can' thelp him.
yaweh
Zoo
civilized discussion. Your character is very well portrait in the Mr.
Vamtsuj and Niam Vamtsuj Hmong movie. You cannot last beyond 2 thread
to show your barbaric side out.
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
if you want, we can have a civilize discussion....and i can guarantee
that you won't be able to keep up, as shown in the past...if you read
this post from the beginning, you can clearly see that it wasn't me
who diverged off topic....
however, if you want to engage in this topic more, lets keep the
conversation base on fact, not on "beliefs" and then claim it to be
real "cuz it says so in the bible.."
...on the other hand, we can talk about beliefs...but only if you know
what that is. its your choice. will be waiting to hear from you.
yaweh
tsujsu...@hotmail.com
still wiating for your reply
yaweh