grant to develop Hmoob

[beemou...@earthlink.net]

I am delighting to make this announcement to Hmoob –Hmong that I have funding to help develop short term economic growth in asia, starting in September 1, 2013. If you met the criteria as below. You may contact my email @beem...@yahoo.com for application progress .

Criteria:
1. Hmoob-Hmong Laos, china, Thailand, Burma, Nepal, Cambodia and Vietnam.
2. Christian.
3. Clean record.
4. Letter support by the Congregation Leader.

Term:
1. $1,000, $2,000.00
2. 12 months
3. No interest.
Qualifications:
1. Farmer, others entrepreneurs.

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koj hais tias yog grant no RABSIS koj ho muaj #2 uas yog term thiab #3 uas yog paj/interest.
kuv saib mas koj SIV lub npe yuam kev LOJ vim grant mas yog nyiaj PUB DAWB xwb ov tsis yog LOAN ov. ntxim li koj PAB LOAN nyiaj tsis yog GRANT. ntshe kuv ho paub TSAWG DHAU lawm xwb raws thaum peb kawm tom U mas yam kev PAB twg yog GRANT CES YOG FREE RAU YUS siv TAS NTSIAGTO TSIS MUAJ NEEG NUG QAB LAWM YOG LOAN FORM nmo mas kawm ntawv tas thiaj muaj bill caum qab kom yus THEM rov QAB. ntsuas koj cov lus mas ntxim li koj hais yog LOAN uas tsis muaj interest xwb tsis tau yog GRANT PUB DAWB2. tsam tus npub2 li kuv nkag siab YUAM KEV ces xav tias koj PUB NYIAJ DAWB2 no mas zoo zoob siab dhia tej plaws txhij duav thiab luag tas li dej ncauj tsis vov hniav li na....

[dony]

Bee,

$1,000 TO $2,000 XWB TSEEM YUAV KOM NOM TSWV SAU NTAWV THIAB?????

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yog tsis yog NOMTSWV sau ntawv LAV ces lwm hnub nws kuj mus taug qab tsis tau nws 1k-2k rov qab lawm. ua kom qoos zogli BANK ua nyob tim meskas no vim qhov loan yuav yog siv mus txawv teb chaws tibsi. yog kuv nyob tim ub mas 2k$ kuv kam kiag. tau 2k kuv mus nkaum pem roob nrog havzoov nyob nws tsislam caum kuv qab mus txog pem roob vim nws paub kuv nqa rab 12G nrog 5 lub #0 lawm ib rab 17 xwb kuj yog rau deb tsawv lawm ces yeej guarantee tias nws tsis tuaj caum qab nug kom them 2k rov qab lawm. twb tsis yog kuv xav li ntawd xwb thaum xyoo 1998 thiab 1999 yuav kluag txog 2000 HMOOB nyob MN nov twb khiav coob rov rau tim THAIB. tej tug mas mus tes dawb taw dawb coj lub cev mus nkaum pem tej hav roob kwj ha tob2 xwb ntag. muaj tus PUAV mas nqa $ ntau li ntau los ntawm LOAN thiab CREDIT CARDS nkaus xwb ntag. nws muaj creditcard 4-5 daim los muab rho ua CASH nyiaj ntsuab tas nrho muab vajtse mus ua LOAN mus pauv ua CASH tibsi. tas nrho cov niam tus nyuag ntig ntwg rau tiom THAIB tom qab no BANK mam caum qab yuav pom yuav paub ib tug mr. A YANG nyob qhov twgli lawm os. cov mus twb rov ya dav hlau cool2 tuaj saib peb nyob MN nov ib zaug lawm. lawv mas thiaj yog neeg NTSES kau NYIAJ #1 vinm tsis yog kaus HMOOB li cov PHEM2 LAWV kaus bank MAS LI NTAWD TSEEM TSAWG ZOG XWB. cov nqa $ ntau2 rov mus txog tim THAIB ces lawv npluas nwj lawm. NPAV pejxeem THAIB loslawv mus YUAV tau. TSHEB los lawv muaj caij lawv tsis txom nyem NYOB NQE li peb cov NPWB2 nyob tim MESKAS no lawm.
yuav cem lo EUAM mas ntxim kom lawv cem PEB ntag laud. peb m,as taubhau LOJ tiag2 nyob2 tsis paub li. tos paub ces lawv twb npluas nuj thaum xyoo 2000 lawm ntev. twb yog 2005 kuv mam paub tom qab no lawv twb rov tim ub tuaj ntsib peb tim meskas no kuv mam ras txog ces twb yog toolate. ua ntej tau ntses lawv qab tau NAB. tsam no mam mus ua lawv qab ces tab tom mus mag nkuaj rau DUB npuj yus pob tw.

[hlao...@gmail.com]

To be perfectly honest with you, Beemouchaofa:

I have always thought you're not only wasting time in your "chaofa" activities --- which to me have always been total, utter nonsense from the start --- but that you're NOT very bright or, at least, thoughtful.

From reading here, in SCH, the last 15 or so years, you've made it clear you have been, AS A BUSINESS MAN, very successful; so I don't doubt your wealth accumulation. And that's good.

But I have always thought --- whenever I came across your postings, on and about chaofa ---"This guy is absolutely nuts. He could be doing so much, TRULY, for "the Hmong" if he's that caring, concerned, or serious about them," etc., etc.

So this ONE POSTING of yours, I must admit, is a good start.

Forget about the Lao communist knuckleheads or their policies. Forget about the Hmong, here in the WEST, who babble endless, for years and now, decades, about how they gonna "go back" or "help the Hmong rise up" in Laos, etc.

If you truly cared about ordinary Hmong, here in the USA and in Laos... you, as someone who's fortunate enough to have come to the West, to America, and have worked hard and diligently enough to HAVE ACCUMULATED some RESOURCES/WEALTH... and you truly wanted to ADVANCE THE HMONG CAUSE..... then..... indeed, make small grants and scholarships available to HMONG KIDS, youth, students, entrepreneurs, and FARMERS, especially farmers... and especially THOSE IN LAOS.

Your name, your family name, and your "cause" could have been ADVANCED in untold and real ways, HAD YOU BEEN making 1-5 "BEE MOUA FOUNATION" SCHOLARHIPS, of $2,500 to $5,000 every year, both to very bright high school students and college graduates, who COULD HAVE SUCCEEDED had they had those extra $2,000 to $5,000 a year, to SUPPLMENT their income, so they could have put in the extra hours that they had to work, into STUDYING...

One small criticism: Christian DOES NOT EQUAL HMONG, as a broad generality.

Hmong are Hmong, and Hmong can be converted to Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, or Hindus or whatever beliefs. If you wanted to help HMONG, then you shouldn't say people HAD to be Christians, or any other beliefs YOU PERSONALLY happen to be converted to, convert to believing IN...

If so, than you object is NOT really about Hmong, or to help Hmong... it is to help THOSE HMONG who do things you do, believe the religious superstitions and beliefs you happen to like... THAT IS NOT HELPING HMONG, as a general criteria.

For example, if there were two very bright high school or college students, equally deserving of a "Bee Moua Foundation Scholarship," and one was a Christian Hmong and one a non-religious and you picked the Christian Hmong student and not the non-religious one, EVERY TIME YOU MADE GRANTS OR SCHOLARSHIPS.... is that really "helping Hmong" as a GENERALITY or is it ONLY ABOUT "helping the Hmong who believe in my religion [Bee Moua's religion]"?

So, again, the GENERAL IDEA of making grants and scholarship, from your own hard earned money, is very commendable, very noble; just make sure you KNOW what you want, know what you are talking about, when you throw out the "Hmong" word.

If you are a Hmong and your heart is to help Hmong, with your resources, then you should NOT discriminate against Hmong in need, whether they are here in the WEST, in Laos, Vietnam, or in China or anywhere else.... You and your people just look for the MOST QUALIFY, those you think will be able to use your hard-earned money to EXTEND their lives, extend their education, extend their farming or business activities, making MORE HMONG more successful, because of THAT ORIGINAL HELP of yours...

OTHERWISE, you need to say:

"I am only mostly concerned about CHRISTIAN HMONG," or "Hmoob Muas only," or "Hmong Yang only," or "Just my close clan members," or "Just those who agree with me," etc.... and DO NOT use the BROAD word "Hmong" without qualification...

Other than that, I think you deciding to use your hard-earned money to help those you think would do GOOD FOR THE HMONG... an idea you should have done many years ago... and many of those, all those years ago who are now grown and successful, would be saying, reflecting:

"Hey, one of the reasons why I am here today, successful and educated, was BECAUSE I got this small but very important scholarship from this guy, Bee Moua and his Foundation. It has made possible for me to study longer hours, without having to work doing odd jobs, with little pay, just to pay for food. But with Bee Moua's scholarship, of $300 [or $500], a month, it HAD MADE THE DIFFERENCE."

If you truly wanted to ADVANCE the HMONG, their cause, "as a people," THAT is what you want people to say about you... in a broad, sweeping, general way... NOT because some got help ONLY because they happened to be related to you, or because they happened to believe the ideas or religious OR POLITICAL beliefs you believe in, etc.........

Indeed, helping Hmong FARMERS and TEACHERS and STUDENTS and bright/hard working BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURS.......... in Laos........ to me, makes the most sense.

NO PEOPLE, no nation, has ever prosper until there is an EDUCATED class, from within the PEOPLE, who are ABLE to engage with/against others, in IDEAS, in business and commerce and trade and communication.... and, to me, that starts with LITTLE HMONG BOYS AND GIRLS, especially girls, young women, and women.

Look at the PICTURE of the average Hmong, especially those in Laos: married at 14-18 and by their mid 20s to 30s, they are already with 3-9 kids. By late 30s to mid 40s, already grandparents; FEW to NONE ever go on to high school or college. GENERATION AFTER GENERATION, 95% or more REPEATING that pattern.

Is that the way how the HMONG, as a people, "succeed"?

Personally, I don't think so.

They TOIL AND SWEAT 12-18 hours a day, true.

But that's working like a horse or water buffalo; it's not working like an educated, thinking, and proactive person of a group of people... and THAT'S mainly due to the LACK of formal education, starting with small Hmong boys and girls and women....

Anyway...

Here, in the WEST, WEALTH is everywhere, eventually the hardest working Hmong, the most serious about education, WILL find ways to get it, to make good lives for them and their children.

The Hmong in Laos don't have access to such already-made/already-accumulated large pools of SOCIETAL wealth/resources. They also live in a rigid and poor society.... You should extend your hard-earned resources to those folks in Laos, those you see as most promising, hardest working, etc.

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let him set the requirement as he wish since it´s his money if that is the case. if he is to use those HMONG money HE SCAMMED than that is another issue. if he use that HELPING method to hide those $ he scammed than he can not be release of his guilt since he use those $ on a project of HELPING HMONG already and therefore the $ is gone/emptied. scammers are likely to do the same by finding wholes for excuse and hide the $ in places that people COULD excuse the SCAMMERS for doing something of value to the community. they continuously looking for weakness in people and prey for the right moment to hide and scam for more $ just as those lions in AFRICA they are likely NOT ATTACKING THE BIG group of ELEPHANTS. they are very likely WAIT for a weak beast in the group that was stray away from the GROUP to be their target. it was for EZ to get method. scammers are doing similar methods by timing and the weakness of the people. cov menyuam LAIB nyob pem MN no twb txawj tsom lub sij hawm kom zoo2 kawg lawv mam ua lawv hom num. lawv coj cov 22 mus khuj ua tom parking lot tej tug lawv tseem mus khuj hauvtsev tib si yog lawv paub tias khuj tau. cov mus khuj hauv tsev mas yog muaj ib co txheeb ze nyob ob cag deb zog sab nraud. LAIB ciali ua black mail mus qhia tus 22 tias kam koj lub cev rau kuv ces kuv tsis mus ua phem rau koj tus no thiab tus no. yog koj tseem tsis kam ces tsis pub dhau ob hnub tus no bye2 lawm. tus 22 kawg ua txhua yam li LAIB hais. muab lub cev rau LAIB SIV kom txaus yees LAIB mam teem sijhawm thiaj qhov chaw kom lwm zaus yuav tsum mus kom txog qhov chaw YG thaum npaumli no teev YOG TSIS LI CES TUS NO MAG KIAG. LAIB rov qab mus tysev lawm 4 tas tus 22 mas haj yam ntshai piav tawm vim LAIB twb HEM kom txaus lawm.

zoo kuv muaj poj niam tias THAIB kuv mam tuaj txog tim meskas no ces kuv mus ua tsis LAIB lawm. yog kuv ua LAIB mas ntshe tswv8 haj yam tob kom tau cov 22 uas nyiam mus ua LAIB tim meskas no ntag. kuv piav li ntawd vim kuv twb paub opom tias LAIB nyob MPLS thiab st.paul ntawm mount airy koog tsev luam ntawm mount airy st.paul no lawv twb uali ntawd ntag. QHOV ZOO mas yog koog tsev luam st.paul thiab MPLS raug muab tsoo tawm povtseg ces HMOOB khiav mus yuav tsev nyob sib nrug deb lawm ces menyuam LAIB ib nyuag nyob sib nrug deb zog lawm. cov 22 los ho tsis muaj coob2 rau lawv siv ua TARGET lawm. nyob coob2 ua ke li tsev luam mas rhuav HMOOB lub neej ntawm cov menyuam sai kawg. hmoob mas tsuas pom lub khaws tay nyiaj vim tsev luam them tsawg2 li 100-200 rau ib hlis xwb tsev xauj tsev yuav yog txhiab lawm ces cov niam tsev mas xav nyob tsev luam xwb tabsis lawv cov menyuammas twb ntsib tshuaj muab LOM kom muaj yees YEEM muab lub cev mos2 mus SIV ua LAIB kom lawv tau me2 tshuaj los yug siav kom lawv txhob fuam2 TSHUAJ thiab luam yeeb xwb. ob yam no yog ob yam muab HMOOB cov menyuam coj mus ua LAIB kom coob zog ntxiv. cov yug kom menyuam LAIB tau ob hom no txawm yog tej tug txiv neej HMOOB thiab ntag. tos haisli los twb paub peb ib tug kwvtij twb yug LUAM YEEB kom tau cov mos2 22 tuaj puag thiab tawb raws li nws siab nyiam. tus kwvtij no nws tus menyuam kuj mus ua LAIB ces nws muaj connections nrog LAIB coob2 nws tshaj 30 ces nws mus yuav LUAMYEEB yooj8 tom khw coj los cia hauv tsev kom txaus2. nws mam hu menyuam LAIB kom tuaj hauv nws tsev yam lig thaum tsaus ntuj. menyuam LAIB tuaj txog pawglug ces nws mam ua zoo zoob xaiv tus mos2 thiab 22 mus khawm tus tawb tom txaj ib ob nkuas kom txaus siav nyiam. nws mam thau luam YEEB los faib PUB NYUAM LAIB. menyuam LAIB cov mos dua 18 mus yuav tsios tauluam YEEB tom khw ces lawv NYIAM #1 vim lawv tau hau luam YEEB DAWB2 thaum lawv muaj ib ob tug mos2 22 nrog lawv caij tsheb ua ib khabnab. YAV thaum i li 5-10 xyoo dhau los mas ntawm tsevluam HMOOB tseem coob2 mas tom parking menyuam LAIB sawv coobli coob nraum tej parking uas muaj tsheb nti neeg qhov muag me2 kom lawv tau khawm thiab ua cov 22 li lawv siab nyiam. TSAM no zooli HMOOB pom /paub tias tsev luam muab menyuam YAUM mus ua LAIB YOOJ8 ces HMOOB pib khiav tawm tsev luam uas nyob ib pawg ua ke mus siv tsev luam section8 los yog yuav tsev kom deb ces zooli HMOOB KHEES ZOG me2 lawm.

teeb meem tsev luam tom MPLS nrog rau tus HMOOB uas ua ntaubntawv kom neeg tau tsev luam kuj muaj txaus yees thaum 1987-1995 uas kuv tsev neeg nyob sab MPLS. tej tug mas siv hauj lwm qab rooj tau tsev luam yooj8 hos tej tug mas ua npe kom tau tsev luam tos2 4hau pib dawb zuj zus los tsis tau tsev kluam ces teeb meem tawm tuaj laud. KAVLIAM tejno yog cov ua ntaubntawv haujlwm tsam no kuv ho tsis nyob tsev luam ces kav liam kuvlam nkaum kuv lub nyuag tsev ze ntawm kev U7NIVERSITY ze LAO FAMILY thiab khw HMOOB nov xwb. vim kuv twb them los tau ntau xyoo lawm ces tsis xav muab pov tseg 6 BANK lawm. tsis li ntawd los kuv ib txwm tsis muaj hmoo ua npe kom tau tsev luam. ua tsawg zaus los tsis tawm npe kom tau mus nyob tsevluam. kuv thiaj ntsub2 mus kawm ntawv los yuav lub nyuag me2 nov lawm. tsam no yuav kom kuv muag lub no 2x tus nqe kuv yuav thaum i los kuv tsis kam vim kuv LAJ2 mus nrhiav dua ib klub tshiab kom nyob ze khw hmoob thiab hmoob communityl i lub no lawm. kuv los tsis tshuav menyuam kom ncaj sij hawm mus ua LAIB ces nyaj ntshai tsis heev lawm. ob xyoo tom ntej ces kuj twb yuav tau coj ob tug menyuam mus kawm tom U deb2 hmoob lawm ces li 10 tom qab ntawd mam tau rovlos nyob ze hauv nroog ntxaib nov. thaum ntawd mammus nthiav tsev nyob sab QBTEB kom snow tsawg zog me2. tsisli ntawd ces mus nyob tom lub nroog U permanant kiag.