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Lao officials visit to Lao hmong in HouayNamKhao camp

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DKJ

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Aug 10, 2009, 1:12:42 AM8/10/09
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All,

See the latest photos from our Lao officials visit to White Water Camp
in Thailand

http://www.flickr.com/photos/houaynamkhao2009


dkj

Down Under

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Aug 10, 2009, 4:14:06 AM8/10/09
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Amb Khenthong did not even get mentioned! and he has no name plate on
that table!

ploojsiabtsistuag

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Aug 11, 2009, 12:17:46 AM8/11/09
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Why LPDR realy realy want hmong to go back. the reason is LPDR want to
kill them all..or they want to wipe all hmong.LPDR allway lie the
beginnig to
the end who can trust. They said they very honor why would let other
oganization
as UNHCR to joint them...than yong kill hmong lao very year..man bor.

yawgnom

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Aug 11, 2009, 5:40:45 AM8/11/09
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On Aug 10, 11:17 pm, ploojsiabtsistuag <menkaujnoo...@hotmail.com>
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I think this dirty politic of both side play too long. The people in
DD need to make decision by them selves either go back or do whatever
they need to do. If they want to fight let fight and not just stay in
thailand and be burnden for thailand. If they do not want to fight
just go back to Lao no need to go to third country. Third country is
their intention for delay so they can stay longer in thailand and wait
for the opportunity to go back to fight, if they really want to fight,
why came to thailand? better just stay in the jungle and keep fighting
in there.

I am sick about this people, they do not need to come to USA or any
other country, Lao is their home. If they need to be good lao citizen
and a better life, we can help, if they need money, we can provide, if
they want to fight, fight to death.

thanouxay

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Aug 11, 2009, 6:58:02 AM8/11/09
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Ploojsiabtsistuag,

Just read this article published by Hmong News in the USA.


Exclusive: Missing Hmong Refugees From Whitewater Camp Alive

By Elizabeth Thao

Pa Yia Vue and his wife Yer Lor are reunited in Laos in Oct 2008 after
Pa Yia Vue was reported missing for about 4 months. (Cheu Lee / Hmong
Times)

The Whitewater Refugee Camp has been attracting much attention
following the numerous reports about the mistreatment of Hmong
refugees by Thai government officials. Amongst all of the problems
Hmong refugees experienced in the camps, including strict rules about
leaving or owning valuables, banning contact with the world outside of
the camp walls, and punishment at the hands of Thai officials; one of
the most concerning was the shutting down of the camp and the forced
repatriation into Laos, a country from which many of the Hmong still
feared persecution.

Troubles really heightened after the displacement of 18 notable Hmong
leaders of the camp. After the 18 leaders were forced to repatriate
into Laos without their families, it was disconcerting to their
families when they were given no further information on the leaders'
whereabouts or their safety. All 18 were reported missing on June 28,
2008. Without any information, their disappearances had many of their
loved ones and members of the Hmong community speculating on their
whereabouts, and it was feared that they had been killed at the hands
of either Thai officials or the Lao government.

HMONG TIMES was able to conduct an exclusive interview with one of the
Hmong leaders that had gone missing. Pa Yia Vue told HMONG TIMES that
the 18 people have been deported to a detention center in Laos. "The
rumors that we were dead were not true," Vue stated.

In an agreement made by both Thai officials and the Lao government,
the detainees would be held until their families in Whitewater were
repatriated into Laos. Because their families had still lived in
Whitewater, the 18 would not be released and are being held in
detention cells at a camp in the Pakxan District of Bourikhamxay
Province in Laos. It will not be until after the families had
established themselves with their other families in Laos, or after
they were deemed self-sufficient that their loved ones would be
released.

When Vue was detained, his wife, Yer Lor, stated that, "I did not
believe my husband was still alive. I wanted to know for a fact that
my husband was alive before I agreed to move to Laos." Lor argued many
times with Thai officials, who eventually compromised a plan in which
Lor would be able to have a phone conversation to prove Vue was still
alive in Laos. Lor said, "I heard my husband's voice. He said that
they didn't abuse him or treat him badly. I heard him tell me, 'If you
don't come to Laos, they won't release me.'" In October 2008, Lor
moved herself and her five children to Vientiane and arranged to live
with her family there, and Vue was released.

Vue stated that the Hmong who had repatriated back to Laos were to be
given a deal in order to help them become self-sufficient. The Thai
government made an agreement with the Lao government to provide 3,000
Baht (approximately $100 U.S.) to each refugee. In addition, Laos
would provide an extra 300,000 Kip (approximately $35 U.S.) to each
refugee. If the refugees chose to live in Phalack Village, a
designated area that the Lao government has placed aside for them
located in the Kasi District of Vientiane province, the homeless
families would be provided with a 2.5-acre plot of land on which to
begin farming and make a living, as well as two year's worth of food
and a year's worth of free electricity. Vue's family, who chose to
reside in Vientiane with their family instead of in Phalack Village,
only received the 300,000 Kip, but Vue noted that although the Lao
officials have been true to their part of the deal, the refugees,
including themselves, have rarely received the benefits promised to
them by the Thai.

Additionally, HMONG TIMES has spoken with other families who have
experienced this ordeal. Other families are speaking up about their
'missing' loved ones and reunifications and ease of migration into
Laos as well. They stated that although the Thai government did use
force in their presence, the Lao government has been nothing but
helpful in aiding the repatriation process, with no harsh treatment
and official welcoming ceremonies on their behalf. Lao officials
continue to convince the refugees that they are not being tricked and
are trying to prevent the Hmong from becoming victims of human
trafficking. Consequently, more and more Hmong families are migrating
to Laos voluntarily.

The Lao and Thai government hope to repatriate all the remaining
illegal Lao migrants in Thailand by the end of this year. There are an
expected 5,000 refugees still left in Thailand.

My last comment: we will certaintly achieve the target by the end of
this year.


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On Aug 11, 6:17 am, ploojsiabtsistuag <menkaujnoo...@hotmail.com>
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ploojsiabtsistuag

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Aug 11, 2009, 1:20:22 PM8/11/09
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thanousay: Lao government constitution are terrible no permanent
constitution
for civilian use and civilian can't make decision.every body knew that
LPDR
are detector man bor thanousay.lue than pin lao deg.leu??.

yawgnom

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Aug 11, 2009, 6:46:41 PM8/11/09
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The Hmong TV new in Sacramento, Californias broadcasting that the
missing Hmong men were escape to Burma and live there. They will never
find them in Lao because they are not in Lao. As Mr Tay Vang or
whatever who broadcasted his new about it.

thanouxay

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Sep 2, 2009, 12:00:28 PM9/2/09
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Dear yawgnom and all,

You may wish to inquire how many got killed in recent attacks by
Myanmar Armed forces in Shan State... They will not be able to run
far...

Be also informed that today 2 September 2009, the Thai Authorities
handed over to Lao Authorities in Vientiane 110 Hmong from Houay Nam
Khao Camp. This group led by the President of Houay Namkhao Camp Mr.
Chong Cheu Lor volunteered to be rapatriated to Lao PDR. Please also
recall that another group led by Ly Sue Long, Vice President of Houay
Namkhao was rapatriated back to Laos on 18 August 2009.

Sooner or later, we will close down Houay Namkhao and rapatriate all
the people back home. We will salvage thousands kids and women from
being taken hostage by a few who dream to migrate to USA and finally
all the kids will go back to school.

Picture of this group will be published soon on the site.

Sok dee

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samphong

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Sep 2, 2009, 12:53:21 PM9/2/09
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Wow, now the new Lao Ambassador to the United Nations have given
himself newfound authorities, including the power to close down a
refugee center in another country like Thailand?

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