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ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:38:14 AM11/4/09
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http://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/detain-11032009192837.html

http://www.tvlaos.com/view/360/fight-for-freedom-of-laos/


Ten years after a rare student uprising, nine people are in custody as
they prepare a demonstration.

BANGKOK—Lao authorities are detaining nine people said to have been
travelling by road to the Lao capital to stage a pro-democracy
protest, according to Lao sources who asked not to be named.

On Nov. 2, a convoy set out from the Nam Ngum dam area of Thalat in
Vientiane province, heading to Vientiane by taxi when authorities
intercepted them in Phone Hong town, some 60 kms from Vientiane and
also in Vientiane province, at around 5 a.m., relatives said.

Scores of people were taken into custody, held briefly, and released.
Five were still held early Wednesday at an undisclosed location, Lao
sources said. They were identified as Ms. Kingkeo, 39; Mr. Soubin, 35;
Mr. Souane, 50; Mr. Sinprasong, 43; and Khamsone, 36.

Two busloads carrying about 75 travelers each meanwhile set out from
the south, and they were detained in Pakading town some 70 kms from
Vientiane in Borikhamxay province, witnesses said.

They had planned to meet several hundred others at the Patuxay
monument in Vientiane, sources said, but they too were detained.

The four bus passengers still in custody as of early Wednesday were
identified as Mr. Nou, 54, detained in Pakkading, and Ms. Somchit, 29,
Mr. Somkhit, 28, and Sourigna, 26, who were detained in Vientiane.

Family members confirmed that all nine were under arrest, sources who
asked not to be named said.

Most were connected with the Oct. 26, 1999 student protests in the
communist Southeast Asian country—four of whose leaders remain in
Samkhe prison in Vientiane after one died in custody.

“What have the 1999 students done that is so terrible as to warrant
death and life imprisonment?” a source in Laos asked.

“I am appealing to the international community and the United Nations
to look out for the welfare of the Lao people and country. The Lao
people are suffering.”

According to the Paris-based Lao Movement for Human Rights, the
planned protest aimed at promoting “a real democracy, respect for
human rights, cancellation of the Laos-Vietnam Cooperation Treaty of
1977, the release of all political prisoners, and a multiparty
system.”

Original reporting by RFA’s Lao service. Lao service director:
Viengsay Luangkhot. Executive producer: Susan Lavery. Produced in
English by Sarah Jackson-Han.

ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:50:18 AM11/4/09
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ກາສາລາວ

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Nov 4, 2009, 12:54:53 AM11/4/09
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your sacrifices, even though not successful, will not have been in
vain. others will pick up the torch and march again if not today
perhaps another day another time. let the freedom ring in the old
muonglao.

Lao PDR, you can silence the people's voice for now because you have
guns but it's only a matter of time before you will have to change to
the people's wishes.

prime minister bouasone,
more than 30 years ago, you were one of the demonstrators in pakse
asking for changes for the betterment of laos. you have broken that
promise by restricting the people's freedoms and basic human rights.
it is not too late to undo what you have done to the old muonglao.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VX3z-G3rs

thanouxay

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:52:58 AM11/4/09
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CasaLao,

Don't be so naive to be trapped in this big lies by some ill-intended
individuals who can only protest by fabricating lies.

Please note that none of the so-called arrest or attemp of protest
ever happen in Laos. The only big big crown can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thatluang2009

You may also check with our friend Dr. Pao who is currently in
Vientiane and also attend Boun That Louang too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61375278@N00/sets/72157622605685091/

Sok di

yawgnomdub

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Nov 4, 2009, 6:50:50 AM11/4/09
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PBL know in advance that will happen, that,s why he posted the
picture
for us to see two weeks ago and last month he did mention that they
will do some thing for the benefit of lao people.

Don't worry, good try and will do again and again untill some thing
change in lao. I think the current commie leaders need to buy house
in
vietnam so the time come they will have place to live.

thanouxay

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Nov 4, 2009, 6:57:48 AM11/4/09
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While Ill-intended elements are dreaming of undermining the country,
the Leaders celebrating and praying solenmly with the entire Lao
people at That Louang. You can see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvrxkeHtzvw

All attempt to cause trouble will be Nul and Void.

Sok dee

ກາສາລາວ

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Nov 4, 2009, 7:57:18 AM11/4/09
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no doubt, any dissension to Lao PDR will be stopped. you can stop
today's demonstrators but others will carry the torch.

the lao people of all stripes going back to chao anouvong have done
this before
when oppressive forces govern the land. sorry mate. you see them as
bad elements, we see them as freedom seekers.

thanouxay, you have mentioned that laos has progressed day by day. it
is true that laos has to progress under any regime. that is not the
question. the big question is: do the lao people have the freedom to
express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?

thanouxay

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Nov 4, 2009, 8:25:42 AM11/4/09
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Dear,

Not only they can but we even facilitate the process by
telebroadcasting the Session of National Assembly and by making a
hotline and Website available for all social strata in the country to
express their view and opinion directly to the MPs.

The people is playing the game and thousands of people conveyed their
grief to the MPs during the Session and in particular the Corruption,
law enforcement, education etc...

You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is
buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao
PDR.

But with regard to bad-element, no way they would be ever able to
achieve anyything to undermine the country.

Sok dee

Xavzoo

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:05:13 PM11/4/09
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> > express themselves as written in the current Lao PDR constitution?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanouxay,

You will change your direction when your pockets are full of cash
unless you are not 100% pure Laotian. You may know more but what can
you do at this time because every corner of Laogovernment has been
controled by Vietnamese government. All the Lao ruling class (seui
chao) are taking pain killer now and wishing should not have done this
way of conquering the contry with the support of Vietnam.

It is aready a nightmare for the Laotians. You may start finding
your way out now even it is too late. What other Lao people do for
democarcy in Laos will be benefited the future os Laos. Sitting in
Geneva office will silently teach you a new direction how lao to rule
your own people and country.


X Z

Hmong

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:13:09 PM11/4/09
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Yong,

A smallest grain can tip off the small. I would not be my life for
it. The only way to prevent this revolution is to give people the
freedom and justice they deserves.


Ai Bao Lao,

Continue your good mission to free Lao people. All we need to do is to
educate our fellow Lao Nai that they need to open up their own eyes
and look up to this world. Lao Nai has been suppressed for the last
34 years, Lao lands and natural resources are gone to foreigners.
They must wake up and tear down this commie garbage regime that has
imprisoned Lao Nai for more than 3 decades. If folks that once
controled by the most powerful nation such as Soviet Union could fall
a part, why can't Lao Nai do the samething in order to free themselves
from those cave-dwelling leaders! Time to ACT is now, don't wait
until all lands are taken by foreigners (Yong is selling), and
Laotians are forced to live on the makeshift rafts living on Mekong
river, and man-made lakes for dams for pennies.

Hmong

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:20:57 PM11/4/09
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Yong,

What I am trying to say is "a smallest grain can tip of the scale".
No way you can stop it. Let the freedom rings! Loatians need to take
control of its own government.

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

tseemyeej

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:28:58 PM11/4/09
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Wow...! What a coincidence. This fabricated news was posted for only 5
hours and here comes mr. LPDR representative. While rejecting this
news as a kind of fabrication from intended ill.elements, he seems to
be too hot to be able to enjoy the peaceful ThatLuang Festival,.
Hahaha...

I kinda wonder if thanouxay ever understands what he has recently
signed with the UN on Civil and Political Rights?
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.laos/browse_thread/thread/1d5ac0b77bef5796/4ddfcf50ef0a962d?lnk=gst&q=un#4ddfcf50ef0a962d

FREEDOM to all Lao people!

ເຊີນຍີ້ມ.

ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:12:03 PM11/4/09
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ລາຍຊື່ຜູ່ທີ່ຖືກຈັບມີ ດັ່ງນີ້:

໑. ນ. ກິ່ງແກ້ວ ອາຍຸ ໓໙ ປີ
໒. ທ. ສຸບິນ ອາຍຸ ໓໕ ປີ
໓. ສວນ ອາຍຸ ໕໐ ປີ
໔. ສິນປະສົງ ອາຍຸ ໔໓ ປີ
໕. ຄຳສອນ ອາຍຸ ໓໖ ປີ
໖. ທ. ນຸ ອາຍຸ ໕໔ ປີ
໗. ນ. ສົມຈິດ ອາຍຸ ໒໙ ປີ
໘. ທ. ສົມຄິດ ອາຍຸ ໒໘ ປີ
໙. ສຸຣິຍາ ອາຍຸ ໒໖ ປີ

We will update more when news available.

http://www.amerilao.org/index.php?page=forum&op=viewThread&id=985

ເຊີນຍີ້ມ

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Nov 4, 2009, 5:27:06 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 5:25 am, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You see that democratisation is a real process and our people is
> buying it to excercise it in accordance with the Constitution Lao
> PDR.

Democracy never means to be FREEDOM dictated (processed) by the
politburo, but Democracy means to be a FREEDOM voted by the people.


ເຊີນຍີ້ມ.

pizone

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Nov 4, 2009, 7:02:11 PM11/4/09
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freedom is Lao way of life, soon or later Laos will enjoy freedom like
most civilized countries on earth.

Viva Lao for Freedom!

pizone

Hmong

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Nov 4, 2009, 7:26:43 PM11/4/09
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More news.

DKJ,

Take pictures for the arrest of these demonstrators and post them on
Flickr for the whole world to see if you are still Khonlao and has
balls.

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Laos: Mass Arrests of 346 Protesters Prior to SEA Games
"Multiple sources in Laos as well as their families in the Laotian
Diaspora community have confirmed the arrest and imprisonment of 346
Laotian students and demonstrators in Vientiane and elsewhere in Laos
by the LPDR secret police and military in what is clearly a major
crackdown following the 10th anniversary of the student protest in
Vientiane in 1999," said Philip Smith, of the CPPA in Washington,
D.C.

(Media-Newswire.com) - Vientiane, Laos, Bangkok, Thailand, Paris,
France and Washington, D.C., November 4, 2009

In Laos, 346 people have been arrested on Monday, November 2 and in
recent days according to sources in Laos and Laotian student, human
rights and non-governmental organizations abroad. Sources inside the
Lao government and army have also confirmed the arrests. The arrests
come in the wake of the 10th anniversary commemoration of the bloody
crackdown in Vientiane on October 26, 1999, of peaceful Lao Student
demonstrations.
http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA260042000?open&of=ENG-LAO
http://www.media-newswire.com/release_1103896.html
http://www.media-newswire.com/release_1104645.html

Laotian and Hmong human rights organizations have issued statements
condemning the new crackdown and urging the release of the Laotian
protesters. The Paris, France-based Lao Movement for Human Rights
( MLDH - Mouvement Lao pour les Droits l’Homme, or LMHR ) ), the Lao
Students Movement for Democracy ( LSMD ), the United League for
Democracy in Laos, Inc. ( ULDL ) the Center for Public Policy Analysis
( CPPA ) and other organizations have issued statements and appeals
about the arrests of the some 300 Laotians in recent days.

Vanida S. Thephsouvanh and the MLDH have also issued an international
communiqué and statement from Paris, France, regarding the recent
arrests in Laos.

“It is urgent for the world to know that now, in Laos, over 300 people
involved with organizing peaceful protests against the Lao government
were arrested in mass arrests by the Lao communist regime in recent
days, starting on November 2, 2009, in Vientiane,” said Oudong Saysana
of the Lao Students Movement for Democracy ( LSMD ).

“These were peaceful Laotian protesters seeking to organize
demonstrations in support of the Lao Students Movement for Democracy
and for reform as well as political and economic justice and human
rights in Laos,” Mr. Saysana said on behalf of the LSMD and Lao
students.

“All of these Laotian people should be immediately released,
especially the Lao students,” concluded Mr. Saysana.
http://www.media-newswire.com/release_1096784.html

The LSMD and the MLDH have made frequent appeals on behalf of the Lao
students still imprisoned in Laos. http://www.media-newswire.com/release_1088854.html
http://www.media-newswire.com/release_1079649.html

“The 346 Lao peaceful demonstrators and organizers recently arrested
in Laos were seeking to demonstrate and stand-up for the Lao nation
and in opposition to the corruption and widespread violation of human
rights by the LPDR communist regime. The Lao people and demonstrators
want economic and political reform and positive change in Laos. They
were arrested because they peacefully opposed the LPDR one-party
military dictatorship and instead they support the pro-democracy
student demonstrations of 1999 and other political and religious
dissident groups seeking political liberty and religious freedom.
Clearly, the freedom-loving Lao people want the Vietnamese troops and
Vietnam generals in Hanoi to get out of Laos and stop their current
intervention to support the LPDR communist puppet regime which the
people dislike and oppose because it is a failed and corrupt,
communist military dictatorship,” said Bounthanh Rathigna, President,
of the United League for Democracy in Laos ( ULDL ).

The Lao Peoples Democratic Republic ( LPDR ) is a one-party communist
regime closely allied to Burma and North Korea. It is ruled by a
military junta of elderly Stalinist generals.

Laos will host the Southeast Asia Games ( SEA Games ) in December in
Vientiane and the LPDR has increased its military and security force
operations against Laotian and Hmong civilians as well as political
and religious dissidents in recent months. The Socialist Republic of
Vietnam ( SRV ) and Vietnam Peoples Army have increased their military
operations and security force intervention in Laos in support of the
Lao Peoples Army ( LPA ), especially in attacks against Laotian and
Hmong civilians and dissidents hiding in the jungles and mountains of
Laos, including Lao and Hmong Christians and dissident Buddhist and
Animist believers.

In October of 1999, Lao Student demonstrators staged peaceful protests
in Vientiane, Laos against the one-party authoritarian regime seeking
political change and reform of the corrupt and oppressive police
state. They were brutally arrested and imprisoned, some of the
students escaped an were given political asylum in the United States.

October 26, 2009, marked the 10th anniversary of student anti-
government protests in Laos.

“Multiple sources in Laos as well as their families in the Laotian
Diaspora community have confirmed the arrest and imprisonment of 346
Laotian students and demonstrators in Vientiane and elsewhere in Laos
by the LPDR secret police and military in what is clearly a major
crackdown following the 10th anniversary of the student protest in
Vientiane in 1999,” said Philip Smith, Executive Director of the
Center for Public Policy Analysis ( CPPA ) in Washington, D.C.

“Thousand of Laotian and Hmong civilians, including women and
children, have been starved to death and killed in recent months and
years in Laos by LPA troops and security forces who have raped and
committed other horrific atrocities against innocent civilians, ethnic
minorities and dissident groups,” continued Smith.

Smith said further: “The new arrests and imprisonment of over 300
Lao students and peaceful protesters this month is clearly part of a
much wider strategy and crackdown in Laos by the Lao Peoples Army and
Vietnam Peoples Army prior to the start of the SEA Games; In recent
days and weeks, hundreds of innocent Laotian and Hmong in Laos have
been abducted, arrested, imprisoned, killed or have simply
disappeared, especially in the recent crackdown by the LPDR secret
policy and ethnic cleansing operations by the LPA and VPA military in
Xieng Khouang Province, Luang Prabang Province, Khammoune Province,
Savanakhet, Vientiane Province and elsewhere in Laos.”

The following is the text of the international communiqué and
statement by the Lao Movement for Human Rights ( MLDH ) and its
President, Vanida S. Thephsouvanh, issued yesterday evening, November
3, 2009, from Paris, France:

“Laos:

New attempt for a peaceful protest in Vientiane-More than 300 arrests


More than 300 persons, who were preparing for a peaceful protest in
Vientiane to call for "human rights respect" and a "multipartite
system" were arrested on Monday 2 November 2009 by the "secret police"
of the Lao People's Democratic Republic ( LPDR ), according to
information received today by the Lao Movement for Human Rights
( MLDH ).


The source detailed that "several hundred persons" ... have been
"imultaneously arrested at diffrent places in the country'' early in
the morning of November 2nd, 2009 : "more than 100 persons at
Pakkading, Bolikhamsay province ( Center ), more than 20 persons at
Phon Hong, Vientiane province ( Center ) while they were travelling to
the That Luang annual festival in Vientiane ( Center ), and more than
200 persons in the capital, before they were able to gather together
for a peaceful protest."


The 2 November 2009 protest aimed to claim for "a real democracy,
human rights respect, the cancellation of the Laos-Vietnam Cooperation
Treaty of 1977, the release of all political prisoners and a
multipartite system," as reported by information sent from inside the
LPDR.


If the majority of the persons arrested yesterday have been released,
many of them are still detained at this moment, among whom "Mrs
Kingkeo ( 39 ), Misters Soubin ( 35 ), Souane ( 50 ), Sinpasong ( 43 )
and Khamsone ( 36 ) arrested in Phon Hong; Mr Nou ( 54 ) arrested in
Pakkading; Ms Somchit ( 29 ), Misters Somkhit ( 28 ) and Sourigna
( 26 ) arrested in Vientiane," according to this same information.

The Lao Movement for Human Rights is highly concerned by these
disturbing news and asks the LPDR authorities to account clear
explanations of these arrests and to immediately release these persons
whose only action seem to wish for a peaceful protest in favor of
democracy and human rights.


The Lao Movement for Human Rights sadly notes that these alarming news
come only a month after the ratification by the LPDR of the
International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which
guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of
association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well
as the rights to protest and political rights.


The news also happened a week after the 10thanniversary of the
"'Student Movement of 26 October 1999' whose leaders have been
imprisoned for 10 years in the LPDR jails.”


( End International Communique Lao Movement for Human Rights, November
3, 2009, Paris, France )


###

Contact: Maria Gomez

Tele. ( 202 ) 543-1444
in...@centerforpublicpolicyanalysis.org


Center for Public Policy Analysis

2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW
Suite No. #212
Washington, DC 20006 USA

Cat

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Nov 4, 2009, 7:38:03 PM11/4/09
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Of all the people who talk about democracy these people are the ones
who walk the walk. For they are truely the brave. One day the
majority of the Lao citizens will join them, then that is when real
changes will happen. No one love their country more than they for
they sacrafice themselve for the good of the country. They are true
laotian patriots.

chicsman

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Nov 4, 2009, 8:50:54 PM11/4/09
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ຕະລົກດີນໍ ຣັຖະບານຫາກໍເຊັນສັນຍາ the ratification by the LPDR of the


International Convention on Civil and Political Rights ( ICCPR ) which
guarantees to the Lao people the freedom of belief, freedom of
association, freedom of expression and freedom of the press, as well
as the rights to protest and political rights.

ບາດເອົາແທ້ໆກໍສະແດງຂີ້ພື້ນອອກມາໃຫ້ເຫັນທັນຕາແບບສາຍຟ້າແລ໋ບເລີຍເນາະ

ຖ້າວ່າເມືອງລາວໝັ້ນຄົງແລະດີຮອບດ້ານທຸກໆປະການ
ແລ້ວເປັນຫຍັງຈື່ງຍັງມີພຶຕິການອັນບໍ່ພໍໃຈຂອງປະຊາຊົນ
ແຍ້ມອອກມາທີລະນ້ອຍໆ ອັນນີ້ແລະນໍທີ່ເພິ່ນວ່າ ສິ່ງທີ່ຈະເກີດ
ເຖິງຈະບັງຄັບບໍ່ໃຫ້ເກີດ ມັນກໍຕ້ອງເກີດ
ຂະໜາດວ່າ ສະຫະພັນໂຊວຽດນັ້ນມີຄວາມສາມາດແລະເກັ່ງຮອບດ້ານ
ກໍຍັງຍຸບພັງທະລາຍໄດ້
ສະຫະພັນໂຊວຽດບໍ່ໄດ້ຍຸບຍ້ອນພະລັງພາຍນອກດອກເດີ ແຕ່ຍຸບດ້ວຍພະລັງຂອງພາຍໃນ

ປະເທດລາວດຽວນີ້ຍັງບໍ່ທໍ່ສ້ຽວເລັບຂອງສະຫະພັນໂຊວຽດນັ້ນຊໍ້າ
ຊາຫຍັງຖ້າວ່າປະຊາຊົນພາຍໃນບໍ່ພໍໃຈ
ແລະກໍເລີ່ມບານປາຍອອກມາແລ້ວ....ດຽວນີ້ອາດຈະເລີ່ມຂື້ນແຕ່ນອ້ຍດຽວເອງ
ແຕ່ມັນກໍຈະໃຫ່ຽຂື້ນທຸກໆມື້
ຍິ່ງມີການບີບບັງຄັບຫຼາຍ ກໍຍິ່ງຈະທະວີຄູນຂື້ນໄປທຸກໆມື້
ຖ້າວ່າພວກຄະນະຣັຖະບານ ສປປລາວ ຍັງບໍ່ທັນຕື່ນໂຕວ່າພວກທ່ານມີຄວາມບົກພ່ອງ
ແລະກໍໃຊ້ອໍານາດ
ພເດັດການ ບີບບັງຄັບປະຊາຊົນລາວຢູ່ ກໍຂໍໃຫ້ພວກທ່ານຕື່ນໂຕສາ
ວ່າປະຊາຊົນລາວພາຍໃນ ອົດບໍ່ໄດ້
ແລະເລີ່ມສະແດງອອກມາແລ້ວ
ພວກທ່ານຢ່າມົວແຕ່ຣະວັງຄົນລາວອາສັຍຢູ່ຕ່າງປະເທດດອກ ເຂົາເຈົ້າບໍ່
ມີນໍ້າໜັກເທົ່າຄົນພາຍໃນ ທີ່ຖືກພວກທ່ານບີບບັງຄັບ ຈົນທົນບໍ່ໄດ້ແລ້ວນັ້ນ....
ຂໍໃຫ້ທຸກໆພະນະທ່ານຈົ່ງໂຊກດີໝົດຊູ່ຂູ້ຊູ່ຄົນເດີ ຕຽມລີ້ພັຍ ກໍເລີ່ມໆສາ
ຈັກໜ້ອຍປະຊາຊົນລຸກຮື້ຂື້ນຫຼາຍ
ບາດດຽວ ຈະບໍ່ມີບ່ອນລີ້ໄດ໊.....

Freedom I

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> ບາດດຽວ ຈະບໍ່ມີບ່ອນລີ້ໄດ໊.....- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

The Real 100% Laotian actuall did something wondeful. Eventhought,
They will not last long. They will die soon. Remember Laotian People
are like fish. Fish can not stay long without water. Real Laotian
People can not stay long. They can only state in the flat land which
there are not that many in Laos and Hmong Country.

Not surprising, this happing in South of Vientiane. Not in Hmong
Country. Good luck to the Real 100% Laotian. Continue to stay South of
Vietniane because that is where you suppose to be. North is the Hmong.
Remember your brother LPDR is not longer fresh. They are 1/2
Vietnamese and 1/2 Laotian. Watch out for them. hang out with the
Hmong is better. Remember who killed your king. It was not the Hmong.
It was your brother. Vang Pao, the Hmong Leader has a long long
history of respecting your king. Average Hmong are not respecting your
king but we did not kill the king neither.

Your Real 100% Laotian People can take care South of the 18 degree and
We Hmong will take care North of the 18 degree. We can guarantee you
that within 24 hours, LPDR will be dry and hungry because there are
not much LPDR in our land.

If your Real Laotian People have something to do, do it now before the
SEA Game. Remember that protest and rules has not work with the LPDR
and will not work. Guns and bombs often work.

Again, Good Luck to your White Reall 100% Laotian. May Budha bless
you. Not the Hmong, we have our own god.

Hmong Freedom II, LPDR's enemy

chicsman

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I don't think guns and bombs will always work either. The LPDR won by
cheathing the peace agreement, no bombs and bullets. American had more
bombs and bullets, Viet still won. Soviet Union collapsed not by guns
and bullets, It's by their inside people rise up. Laos is going to be
the same way as long as people can't take it any more and rise up all
together, it is faster and better than guns and bombs way as you
state.

If you thinking of dissecting Laos, it will make it worst. Laos will
never have peace. Majorities Laotian(included all ethnic) will not go
for that.

ທ້າວໄຂ່ມືດ

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On Nov 4, 10:06 pm, chicsman <chics...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> I don't think guns and bombs will always work either.

I agree 100%

ເຊີນຍີ້ມ

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chicsman,

On Nov 4, 5:50 pm, chicsman <chics...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ຕະລົກດີນໍ ຣັຖະບານຫາກໍເຊັນສັນຍາ the ratification by the LPDR of the

> ບາດເອົາແທ້ໆກໍສະແດງຂີ້ພື້ນອອກມາໃຫ້ເຫັນທັນຕາແບບສາຍຟ້າແລ໋ບເລີຍເນາະ

ຢ່າສຸໄປເຂົ້າໃຈຜິດວ່າ ເຂົາເຊັນສັນຍານີ້
ເພື່ອປົກປ້ອງສິດເສຣິພາບຂອງປຊຊລາວໄດ໋
ເຫດຜົນທີ່ ສປປລາວ ເຊັນໄປຫັ້ນ ກໍເພື່ອຫວັງຈະຕົວະເອົາເງີນຊ່ວຍເຫລືອຂອງສະຫະ
ປະຊາຊາດຕ່າງຫາກເດິກ.

...ຮິໆໆໆ

ເຊີນຍີ້ມ.

Hmong

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We should stand shoulder to shoulder uprising against communism.
Communism is not good for Lao people. Laos is too small to be divided
into 49 pieces of lands for each of the ethnic group. All ethnic
groups in Laos are known to be kind people and good hospitality that
run deep in their blood. I remembered when I was just a kid, our Lao
Puan guests spent nights with us whenever they passed by. Each of
them packed in their travel bags with Oranges, duck eggs, and other
home made candies as presents for our brothers and sisters. Whenever
our parents visited our phinong Lao, they always were welcomed them as
good friends, offered a place to sleep and eat.

What is bad is this garbage commie system that brain washed everyone
not to trust each other. Remember, commie agents came to the village,
gave candies to a young child and asked to spy on their parents. Most
of the time , kids wanted candies and they made up the stories that
commie agents wanted to hear. Kids did not know that what they had
made it up led them to orphanage. The same tactics were used in
Cambodia that caused the disappearance of 2 millions people.

Laotians (all ethnic) have been suffering so much for the last 34
years, now it is time to call up on all Lao nai to take back their
freedom and justice. They don't need a groups of cave-dwelling
leaders who live as beggars on international donor monies, and sell
anything that they can get their hand on. Lao must "hed Lao xai"
mentality. No more Viet domination!

> for that.- Hide quoted text -

DKJ

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PBL,

It was biggest lie from RFA for the year 2009

I can confirm 1000% that there was no any such incident happened in
Laos during Thatluang festival 2009
It was the rumour created by reactionary Lao overseas in cooperation
with RFA die-hard editor.

Read more in Lao

http://www.bailane.com/Forum/ViewWebBoard.aspx?sid=101&tid=2489

dkj

DKJ

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DKJ

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Xavzoo

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.Friends,

I see Laotian in double images such as Red and White. The commie
trained the Red taking care of the White, and the White Laotian are
weaken now. Your Laotians always betray the Hmong People for your
ultimate goal, meaning the win win situations for both Red and White
Laotians instead of letting the Hmong control the land. Today you
start seeing that Laos is no longer in Lao's hand. Hope you learn a
lesson from your big mistake.

X Z

ກາສາລາວ

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ອາວ ທ່ານ ດກຈ,
ທ່ານຕື່ນເຕັ້ນຫລາຍຈົກກລີກ ສົ່ງຂໍ້ຕອບຕັ້ງສາມເທື່ອພຸ້ນນາ.

ຜຂ ຈະຂໍຝາກສອງສາມຄວາມໄປຫາ"ຈັກກະພົງສ໌ສັນຕິທັມ75" ຜູ້ວິເຄາະຂ່າວນີ້
ທີ່ໃບລານແດ່ເດີ.

ລາວວ່າ:
- (ສັງເກດ RFA ໃຊ້ຄຳເວົາແບບນີ້ ມັນກໍບໍ່ສົມກັບສຳນັກການສື່ຂ່າວສາກົນແລ້ວ
"ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ" ຢ່າລືມວ່າ ນາຍົກຣັດຖະມົນຕີ
ກັບຣັດຖະບານມັນຄົນລະເລື່ອງກັນ ມັນຕ້ອງໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ສອບຖາມນາຍົກຣັດຖະມົນຕີ
ຫຼືຣັດຖະບານລອງເບິ່ງ" ເຂົາບໍ່ຮູ້ຫຼັກຣັດຖະສາດເອົາສາເລີຍ ບໍ່ຮູ້ວ່າ
ຜູ້ສື່ຂ່າວ ອາເມຣິກາເຂົາຈົບປະຖົມ ຫຼືປະຣິນຍາກັນແທ້)

ຂອ້ຍໂລດຂໍຕອບແທນວ່າ: ຜູ້ໃຫ້ສໍາພາດຫັ້ນລາວ
ບໍ່ໄດ້ອ້າງໂຕເອງວ່າຈົບອັນນີ້ອັນນັ້ນ.
ລາວກໍເວົ້າໄປຕາມທີ່ລາວໄດ້ຮູ້ໄດ້ເຫັນ. ອາໂກຍ ທ້າວ ຈັກກະພົງສ໌ສັນຕິທັມ75
ເອີຍ ຟັງໃຫ້ມັນຄັກໆແນ່ ກອ່ນຊິອອກ ມາຂຽນບົດວິເຄາະວິຈານຫັ້ນ.
ອັນເຈົ້າຜູ້ຈົບປະຣິນຍາສາມປະການ ມາແຕ່ຫ້າໂນ້ຍຫັ້ນ ຟັງໃຫ້ມັນຄັກໆແນ່ ທ້າວ.

tseemyeej

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ຍາກາສາລາວ,

On Nov 4, 9:32 pm, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ອາວ ທ່ານ ດກຈ,
> ທ່ານຕື່ນເຕັ້ນຫລາຍຈົກກລີກ ສົ່ງຂໍ້ຕອບຕັ້ງສາມເທື່ອພຸ້ນນາ.

ອະແຮ໊ມ...ເອິ...ອາດຊີແມ່ນ ຍາອາວສະຫາຍ ທະນູໄຊ ກຳລັງຕົກ
ນ້ຳຢູ່ ສະຫາຍອາວ ດກຈ ເລີຍຟ້າວແລ່ນອອກມາຄົວເອົາເພີ່ນ ຕິ໋ບໍ້?

ນີ້ແຫລະຄືສ່ວນນຶ່ງຂອງ "ນະໂຍບາຍສາມບໍ່" ຮິໆໆໆ..


ໍເຊີນຍີ້ມ.


ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ

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Is ok dkj Let them lies, only insane Laonorks will believe them.
most of Laonork proud and support Lao SEA game, don't worry
Buddha will help Lao SEA game go through the same way
as he help Lao revolution go through..viva Laos, viva LPDR...

paxas...@yahoo.com

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It's the fabrication work of bad element groups abroad . Just look at
those names and organizations that making noises were the same people
and groups that would always cried and complained the past few years .
They could only made little noises for few days soon everything will
be back to normal again .

PXL4LIFE.

thanouxay

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Dear friends,

As Paxason said, it is the same liars such as Philip Smith, Vannida
Thepsouvanh and their henchmen who dream of conducting sabotages to
torpedoe our SEA Game but they failed and spead this intoxication.

Sok dee

On Nov 5, 9:42 am, "paxason...@yahoo.com" <paxason...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Cat

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:21:18 AM11/5/09
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DKJ,

I believe the part that you can proof that the event never exist. Of
course as the only legal party in Laos the LPDR can manufacture any
fact/lies that they want the public to consume. Just remember that
those facts/lies will only be believe or pretend to believe by the
Laotians in Laos because you force them to believe. We live in the
West, we have the ability to question anything and everything if we
think it's untrue.

Freedom I

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DKJ, Deal Killer Job,

RFA is lie 1000%. LPDR is lied 1000,000 %. LPDR is one of the most
respectful news in our country. I said it over and over that Free
Press, Free Democracy, Free People did not work in LPDR. Only Guns and
Bombs will work. LPDR always denied that things that happen in Laos.
LPDR only broadcasts fish and disasters that will encourage other
countries to give grants to LPDR.

All People, let's come together and remove the LPDR from our Land.
DKJ's group do not deserve to be in there. Real 100% Laotian fight
South of Vientiane and North of Vientiane will fight by the Hmong. No
corncern about the Hmong. We had defended it for so long and will
continue to do so.

tseemyeej

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Nov 5, 2009, 11:40:53 AM11/5/09
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ທຸກທ່ານ,

ຫາກວ່າແລ້ວນ໋າ....ທຸກເທື່ອ ຖ້າເຫັນຫົວໜ້າຄລາດອອກມາ
ນ້ອຍບໍ່ນານ ກໍຈະເຫັນຫົວຫລັງພາກັນຄແລດອອກມາເບິດຝູງ

ອັນນີ້ກ່າວ່າຝອຍ..(ອຸ້ຍ..ສອຍ).ຝອຍແລ້ວກ່າຝອຍອີກ!


ເຊີນຍີ້ມ.


pizone

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all,

Dkj said,
“It was biggest lie from RFA for the year 2009. I can confirm 1000%


that there was no any such incident happened in Laos during Thatluang

festival 2009…”

ລາວພວນ ລາວຮັກຊາດ said,
“Is ok dkj Let them lies, don't worry Buddha will help Lao SEA game go
through the same way as he help Lao revolution go through.., viva
LPDR... “

PXL4LIFE said,
“It's the fabrication work of bad element groups abroad.. They could


only made little noises for few days soon everything will be back to

normal again . “

Thanouxay said,
“As Paxason said, it is the same liars .. who dream of conducting


sabotages to torpedoe our SEA Game but they failed and spead this

intoxication. “


If dkj's 1000% confirm is 1000% right, then why thanouxay said, “but
they failed”?

pizone

chicsman

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ອັນສາມບໍ່ນັ້ນຄືຈະແມ່ນ..ບໍ່ຮູ້..ບໍ່ເຫັນ..ບໍ່ບອກ
ຫຼືວ່າແນວເລີນໍ?
ຫຼຶວ່າ..ບໍ່ເຫີ້ປາກ..ບໍ່ເຫີ້ຖາມ..ບໍ່ເຫີ້ເຊື່ອ..ບໍນໍ?

Kwaine

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The Lao Ambassador to the UN and High Ranking Official DKJ are being
seen as nervous wrecks already with this breaking news and both have
grossly contradicted in what they say. One said, it never happened;
the other said, it failed. The latter holds truth in this case. The
demonstrators failed because as long as the LPDR regime remains in
power, they will stop anybody for doing anything they disagree with.
They have a special police military force that control independendant
thinking people on a daily basis. They are the Gestapo of Southeast
Asia that will not hesitate to remind none compliants that they are
tough. Then you are arrested, they will send you to concentration
camps and remove your teeth, hair and bury you in mud chambers. Due
process and trial is too good for non compliants. They have a board
in the Politburo to decide whether the arrested are to be impounded.

As time and time again has shown, the LPDR regime can maintain these
operations. All who do not follow politically corrected rules, are
either over the age of usefulness or are just considered to be
undesirable and were exterminated. The only freedom to march
peacefully or not is, pertaining to the LPDR Ambassador to the UN,
under the auspice of the chosen government, LPDR, who forced itself to
power.

When power was being transferred by force to the hands of tyrants, so
are their duties of operation. Everything must be in uniform. A system
cannot be Communist if it operates differently.

It's going to take more than Lao Human Rights groups to change the
current government.

On Nov 4, 12:38 am, ຜູ່ບ່າວລາວ <bao...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.rfa.org/english/news/laos/detain-11032009192837.html
>
> http://www.tvlaos.com/view/360/fight-for-freedom-of-laos/
>
> Ten years after a rare student uprising, nine people are in custody as
> they prepare a demonstration.
>
> BANGKOK—Lao authorities are detaining nine people said to have been
> travelling by road to the Lao capital to stage a pro-democracy
> protest, according to Lao sources who asked not to be named.
>
> On Nov. 2, a convoy set out from the Nam Ngum dam area of Thalat in
> Vientiane province, heading to Vientiane by taxi when authorities
> intercepted them in Phone Hong town, some 60 kms from Vientiane and
> also in Vientiane province, at around 5 a.m., relatives said.
>
> Scores of people were taken into custody, held briefly, and released.
> Five were still held early Wednesday at an undisclosed location, Lao
> sources said. They were identified as Ms. Kingkeo, 39; Mr. Soubin, 35;
> Mr. Souane, 50; Mr. Sinprasong, 43; and Khamsone, 36.
>
> Two busloads carrying about 75 travelers each meanwhile set out from
> the south, and they were detained in Pakading town some 70 kms from
> Vientiane in Borikhamxay province, witnesses said.
>
> They had planned to meet several hundred others at the Patuxay
> monument in Vientiane, sources said, but they too were detained.
>
> The four bus passengers still in custody as of early Wednesday were
> identified as Mr. Nou, 54, detained in Pakkading, and Ms. Somchit, 29,
> Mr. Somkhit, 28, and Sourigna, 26, who were detained in Vientiane.
>
> Family members confirmed that all nine were under arrest, sources who
> asked not to be named said.
>
> Most were connected with the Oct. 26, 1999 student protests in the
> communist Southeast Asian country—four of whose leaders remain in
> Samkhe prison in Vientiane after one died in custody.
>
> “What have the 1999 students done that is so terrible as to warrant
> death and life imprisonment?” a source in Laos asked.
>
> “I am appealing to the international community and the United Nations
> to look out for the welfare of the Lao people and country. The Lao
> people are suffering.”
>
> According to the Paris-based Lao Movement for Human Rights, the
> planned protest aimed at promoting “a real democracy, respect for
> human rights, cancellation of the Laos-Vietnam Cooperation Treaty of
> 1977, the release of all political prisoners, and a multiparty
> system.”
>
> Original reporting by RFA’s Lao service. Lao service director:
> Viengsay Luangkhot. Executive producer: Susan Lavery. Produced in
> English by Sarah Jackson-Han.

pizone

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dkj,

what ຈັກກະພົງສ໌ສັນຕິທັມ75 said is funny, how come you gave him 10
points?


ວິເຄາະຂ່າວ of ຈັກກະພົງສ໌ສັນຕິທັມ75
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ຂ່າວນີ້ ຈິງບໍ່ຈິງບໍ່ອາດຮູ້ໄດ້ ເພາະວ່າຍັງບໍ່ໄດ້ມີຂ່າວໃນລາວ
ຫາກຈິງກໍຈະມີການຂ່າວໃນເວລາຕໍ່ມາ(ຂໍໃຫ້ຕິດຕາມຂ່າວນີ້ໄປເລື້ອຍໆ
ຫາກບໍ່ມີຂ່າວໃນໄລຍະຕໍ່ໄປກໍສະແດງວ່າຂ່າວນີ້ປອມ,

If there won’t be news in the future that doesn’t necessary mean it’s
the fake news. It also could mean that the pak-lat won’t let the news
to come out to the public, which the pal-lat love to do it.

ຢ່າງໃດກໍຕາມເຮົາມາສັງເກດ ແລະວິເຄາະຂ່າວນຳກັນໃນເນື້ອໃນຂ່າວດັ່ງນີ້
ເພື່ອຈະໄດ້ຮູ້ວ່າຂ່າວນັ້ນ ຈິງຫຼືປອມກັນແທ້ ມີເນື້ອໃນຂ່າວຕນໜຶ່ງວ່າ
"”ປະຊາຊົນລາວ ຖືກຈັບຖືກກຸມ ຈໍານວນຫລວງຫລາຍ ບໍ່ຮູ້ວ່າ ເປັນຄວາມຜິດອີ່ຫຍັງ,
ເຫດຜົນອີ່ຫຍັງ ຈຶ່ງຖືກຈັບຖືກກຸມ ຈໍານວນຫລາຍພາຍມາກ, ສັງຄົມໃນບ້ານເມືອງ
ເປັນຫຍັງ ຈຶ່ງເກີດຂຶ້ນແບບນີ້, ຂໍໃຫ້ນາໆຊາດ ຫລືວ່າ ສະຫະປະຊາຊາດ
ກວດສອບເຣື້ືອງນີ້ ເຣື້ອງສັງຄົມ ໃນບ້ານໃນເມືອງ ຂອງລາວນີ້
ມັນເປັນແບບນີ້ຂຶ້ນມານີ້, ເບິ່ງສອບຖາມ ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ ໃຫ້ແດ່ ວ່າ
ມັນເປັນຈັ່ງໃດ.”
- ຄຳເວົ້າເທິງນັ້ນແມ່ນແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວ ຄືຜູ້ເຫັນເຫດການໄດ້ໃຫ້ຂ່າວແກ່ນັກຂ່າວ
ເຮົາມາວິເຄາະຄຳເວົ້າຂອງແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວ ເພື່ອໃຫ້ຮູ້ວ່າແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວນີ້
ເປັນຄົນໆດຽວກັນບໍ ? ຈຶ່ງົກເອົາຄຳໃນຂ່າວອອກມາວິເຄາະກັນຄຳຕໍ່ຄຳ ດັ່ງລຸ່ມນີ້
໑- ສັງຄົມໃນບ້ານເມືອງ ເປັນຫຍັງ ຈຶ່ງເກີດຂຶ້ນແບບນີ້,
ຄຳເວົ້ານີ້ເປັນຂອງແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ສັງຄົມບ້ານເມືອງ"
ສະແດງວ່າແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວນີ້ເປັນຄົນລາວ ເພາະຄຳເວົ້າ ເຊັ່ນນີ້
ມີແຕ່ເຈົ້າຂອງປະເທດເທົ່ານັ້ນເວົ້າ ຫາກຄົນຊາດອື່ນເຂົາຈະໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ
"ສັງຄົມເມືອງລາວ"

So, you said that ແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວ is laonai.

໒.ໃນບ້ານໃນເມືອງ ຂອງລາວນີ້ ຕໍ່ມາໃນແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວຄົນດຽວກັນໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ
"ໃນບ້ານເມືອງຂອງລາວນີ້" ຄຳເວົ້າແບບນີ້ ບໍ່ແມ່ນຄຳເວົ້າຂອງຄົນລາວແນ່ນອນ
ເພາະຫາກ ແມ່ນຄົນລາວແທ້ ເຂົາຈະບໍ່ໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ບ້ານເມືອງຂອງລາວ"
ເຂົາຈະຕ້ອງເລືອກໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ບ້າເມືອງຂອງເຮົາ ຫຼືປະເທດຂອງເຮົາ"
ຫາກແຫຼ່ງຂາວນີ້ ເປັນຄົນລາວແທ້ ຖ້າຫາກເຂົາຢາກຈະໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ລາວ"
ໃຫ້ພົ້ນເດັ່ນໃນເນື້ອໃນຂ່າວ ເຂົາຈະຕ້ອງໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ໃນປະເທດລາວຂອງເຮົາ
ຫຼືປະເທດລາວຂອງຂ້າພະເຈົ້າ" ໃນເມື່ອເຂົາສຳພາດ ຫຼືເວົ້າກັບຄົນຕ່າງປະເທດ
ແຕ່ວ່າໃນເນື້ອໃນຂ່າວດຽວກັນ ຂອງການໃຫ້ຂ່າວດຽວກັນ ກັບໃຊ້ຄຳສັບສົນ
ເໝືອນກັບວ່າເຂົາເປັນຄົນລາວ ແລະບໍ່ແມ່ນຄົນລາວ ໃນຂະນະ ດຽວກັນ

now you said he/she isn't laonai. the one who is ສັບສົນ is you. btw,
according to you, what is your definition of ຄົນລາວແທ້? and who is
ຄົນລາວປອມ?

ເວັ້ນເສັຍແຕ່ຂ່າວນີ້ເປັນຄົນລາວ
ທີ່ປ່ຽນສັນຊາດເຊິ່ງມີສຳນຶກໃນພູມກຳເນີດຊາດຕົນເອງແລ້ວວ່າ "ຕົນເປັນຄົນລາວ"
ຈຶງໃຊ້ຄຳໃນຂໍ້ ໑ ແຕ່ເຂົາກໍທະນົງໃຈ ວ່າເຂົາໄດ້ປ່ຽນສັນຊາດແລ້ວ
ເຂົາບໍ່ໄດ້ຢູ່ໃນປະເທດລາວ ເຂົາຈຶ່ງໃຊ້ຄຳໃນຂໍ້ທີ່ສອງປົນກັນ

This is very funny, how do you know the informant is already changed
his/her nationality? And how can you read his/her mind that he/she is
“ທະນົງໃຈ” ວ່າເຂົາໄດ້ປ່ຽນສັນຊາດແລ້ວ?

ຫາກອິງຕາມຜູ້ຂຽນສັງເກດການໃຊ້ຄຳທັງໝົດນັ້ນ, ຄຳເວົ້າທີ່ນຳມາອ້າງນັ້ນ
ເປັນແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວທີ່ບໍ່ມີຕົນຕົວຈິງ
ແຕ່ເປັນແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວຈິນຕະນາການຂອງນັກຂ່າວຜູ້ລາຍງານຂ່າວນີ້ແນ່ນອນ
ເພາະມີການໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ເບິ່ງສອບຖາມ ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ ໃຫ້ແດ່ ວ່າ
ມັນເປັນຈັ່ງໃດ.” ອັນນີ້ສະແດງວ່າ ເຂົາຜູ້ໃຫ້ຂ່າວບໍ່ແມ່ນຄົນລາວ
ຫຼືຄົນໃນປະເທດລາວເລີຍ ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ ເພາະເຂົາໃຊ້ນາຍົກຣັດຖະບານລາວ
ໝາຍຄວາມວ່າເຂົາບໍ່ແມ່ນຄົນລາວ, ຫາກເປັນເຊັ່ນນັ້ນ
ແຫຼ່ງຂ່າວນີ້ເຊື່ອຖືບໍ່ໄດ້ ເພາະໃຫ້ການສັບສົນ. ຫາກເປັນຄົນລາວຕ້ອງໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ
"ທ່ານນາຍົກ" ຊື່ໆກໍພຽງພໍ ແລະສົມບູນແລ້ວໃນປະໂຫຍກ

May be the informant just want to say, ສອບຖາມ ທ່ານນາຍົກ “ຫຼື” ຣັຖບານ
ໃຫ້ແດ່ ວ່າ ມັນເປັນຈັ່ງໃດ? You may or may not know that the majority of
laonai aren’t good in their own lao language any more. Phoumi
vongvichit told them to use the easy and lazy way of lao speaking and
lao writing, that’s why you hear laonai talk weir lao+thai, lao+viet,
lao+jek, lao+eng, lao+freanch….. every day


.ສະນັ້ນ ຄຳເວົ້າຄຳນີ້ ຈຶ່ງເປັນຄຳເວົ້າຂອງ RFA ເອງ. ຂ່າວນີ້ຈຶ່ງຖືວ່າ
"ຂ່າວປອມ"

Just one word can prove that the whole news must be the fake news?

- (ສັງເກດ RFA ໃຊ້ຄຳເວົາແບບນີ້ ມັນກໍບໍ່ສົມກັບສຳນັກການສື່ຂ່າວສາກົນແລ້ວ
"ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ" ຢ່າລືມວ່າ ນາຍົກຣັດຖະມົນຕີ
ກັບຣັດຖະບານມັນຄົນລະເລື່ອງກັນ ມັນຕ້ອງໃຊ້ຄຳວ່າ "ສອບຖາມນາຍົກຣັດຖະມົນຕີ
ຫຼືຣັດຖະບານລອງເບິ່ງ" ເຂົາບໍ່ຮູ້ຫຼັກຣັດຖະສາດເອົາສາເລີຍ ບໍ່ຮູ້ວ່າ
ຜູ້ສື່ຂ່າວ ອາເມຣິກາເຂົາຈົບປະຖົມ ຫຼືປະຣິນຍາກັນແທ້)

So, if RFA has the word “or” (ຫຼື) between the word the PM and the
government, then the news isn’t fake, right?

- ນາຍົກຣັດຖະມົນຕຣີ ເປັນຕຳແໜ່ງໜຶ່ງ ເປັນຫົວໜ້າຣັດຖະບານ;
- ສວນຄຳວ່າຣັດຖະບານ ໝາຍເອົາຄະນະຣັດຖະບານທັງໝົດ
ເຂົາເລືອກໃຊ້ຄຳບໍ່ເປັນ ເຮັດໃຫ້ຂ່ວເຂົາກາຍເປັນຂ່າວໂມຄະ.

I think everybody knows the difference between the PM and the
government, including most laonai. I don’t think
ເຂົາເລືອກໃຊ້ຄຳບໍ່ເປັນ, but ເຂົາໃຊ້ຄຳເວົ້າ ຂອງລາວໃນເວົ້າກັນ. like you
know very well, Laonai hear and/or say the words "pak-lat" more than 3
times a day, 7 days a week. they get used to it. they rarely say the
right way, which is, "pak-or-lat" or "pak-and-lat" even they know that
"pak" and "lat" aren’t the same. Therefore, It’s very normal for a
laonai saying, “ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຣັຖບານລາວ” to means, “ທ່ານນາຍົກ ຫຼື
ຣັຖບານລາວ” or “ທ່ານນາຍົກ ແລະ ຣັຖບານລາວ”

pizone

DownUnder

unread,
Nov 6, 2009, 9:13:25 PM11/6/09
to
On Nov 4, 9:52 pm, thanouxay <thanou...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> CasaLao,
>
> Don't be so naive to be trapped in this big lies by some ill-intended
> individuals who can only protest by fabricating lies.
>
> Please note that none of the so-called arrest or attemp of protest
> ever happen in Laos. The only big big crown can be seen here:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/thatluang2009
>
> You may also check with our friendDr.Paowho is currently in
> Vientiane and also attend Boun That Louang too:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/61375278@N00/sets/72157622605685091/
>
> Sok di
>
> On Nov 4, 6:54 am, ກາສາລາວ <casa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > your sacrifices, even though not successful, will not have been in
> > vain. others will pick up the torch and march again if not today
> > perhaps another day another time. let the freedom ring in the old
> > muonglao.
>
> > Lao PDR, you can silence the people's voice for now because you have
> > guns but it's only a matter of time before you will have to change to
> > the people's wishes.
>
> > prime minister bouasone,
> > more than 30 years ago, you were one of the demonstrators in pakse
> > asking for changes for the betterment of laos. you have broken that
> > promise by restricting the people's freedoms and basic human rights.
> > it is not too late to undo what you have done to the old muonglao.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VX3z-G3rs


I flew off Wattay in the morning of 31st Oct 2009... so I missed all
the fun.

All I can say is that there has been some visible increase in security
in Vientiane in the last two weeks when I was there with the sudden
appearance of soldiers patrolling in the Morning Market and at
Thatluang. It is quite obvious... every one can see them...and people
start asking what was going on.

I did not follow up what was going on as I just went on my own
business....having a good time, drinking lots of fresh coconut juice,
having daily massage, hair washed every 2nd days and busy doing my
shopping with all sort of bargain as the sellers were desperate to
sell their goods. Business seems to be booming but every one was
saying that business is bad this year. There are more lookers than
real buyers. I was loooking for a set of wireless microphones and the
guy wanted to make a good profit from me by selling for $US180. I
laughed and walked off. The next day he saw me, he offered to sell for
$100...then $80...then finally $70... but I did not buy.

During my last day, I stopped by Dongdok because my wife wanted to
see her old dormitory and classroom. As we were taking photo of her
old classroom building and her dorm, we were stopped by the security
guard and we were told that we were not allowed to take photo at
all... and that we would be retained. After some discussion, it
happened that the guard knew all the people that my wife was talking
about and a lady happened to walk pass and she overheard our
discussion, she was thrilled that my wife was the student of her
mother who used to teach at dongdok - and a very well known teacher
and related to the guard! So, we were allowed to leave....

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:59:12 PM11/6/09
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ແມ່ນໃຜຕົວະໃຜ ນໍ? ທ່ານຮູ້ແນ່ນອນບໍວ່າເຈົ້າໜ້າທີ່ ສປປລ ບໍ່ໄດ້ຈັບກຸມ
ກຸ່ມຄົນລາວທີ່ເດີນທາງຈາກສາຍໃຕ້ ເພື່ອຂຶ້ນມາຮ່ວມງານຕັກບາຕ ທີ່ພຣະທາຕຫລວງ
ຂອງເຊົ້າມືດ ຂອງວັນທີ ໒?

ຂພຈ ຄິດວ່າ ສປປລ ນັ້ນຫລະ ເປັນຜູ້ທີ່ຂີ້ຕົວະ. ຖ້າທ່ານບໍ່ຮູ້ ກໍໝາຍຄວາມວ່າ
ພັກແລະລັດ ປິດຫູບັງຕາ ຂອງທ່ານສາແລ້ວ.

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