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Hmong couple torture/chained son, so sad

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John

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Aug 2, 2010, 3:42:25 PM8/2/10
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Yog vim li cas es Hmong yuav tsis hlub tej menyuam tsis muaj niam los
yog tsis muaj txiv li los yog tsis muaj niam thiab txiv li lawm? Ua
no mas dhau cai lawm pob cov kwv tij. Nej sim nrog kuv xav saib cas
niam txiv hmong tseem siv txoj cai thiab lub siab phem nyob lub ntuj
qubqab?

John

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Aug 2, 2010, 3:43:08 PM8/2/10
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Hmong-Lao

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Aug 2, 2010, 4:47:43 PM8/2/10
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Cov phoojywg,
Nrog tabncuab tus menyuam uas raug nws txiv qhua qhia nyhav li no. Ib
tug menyuam yuav tsim txiaj tsis tas kom niam thiab txiv txwv nws txog
qib muab saw hlau khi li no. Raws li yus pom tej neeg ib ncig ze no
qhov teebmeem menyuam tsis mloog lus no yog chiv los ntawm leej niam
thiab leej txi uantej. Nkawv tsis muab txoj kev hlub txaus rau
menyuam, thiab tsis saib xyuas tus menyuam kom cuagncua thaum menyuam
tsis tau mus kis tau tus kabmob (Laib); txog thaum nws twb kis tus
kabmoob lawm mam txwv, mam ua tsiv ua nruj ces yeej lig dhau li no
ntag. Thaum zoo li no lawm ces yuav tau ua ib siab ywj nws lawm xwb,
ciaj thiab rov tsimtxiaj los ho yuav, tuag los faus xwb mas teebmeem
thiaj tsis kis toj kis pes li ob niam txiv no.

Peb cov niamtxiv Moob muaj coob leej ntau tus tu ncua rau fab kev ua
niam ua txiv kom haum lub tebchaws no heev. Tabsis peb ho tsis kam txo
lub hwjchim thiab tsis kam lees hais tias peb tu ncua kev ua niam ua
txiv; peb tsis kam mus nrhiav kev pab kom yus paub ua niam ua txiv
ntxiv li. Yeebvim li no peb ib txia menyuam thiaj li taug txoj kev
yuam kev li tej uas peb pom no.

HL

Kawmmuajkws

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Aug 2, 2010, 4:54:43 PM8/2/10
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Cov menyuam tebchaws no lawv noj nyuj mis es lawv tawv li nyuj. Tua
los tuag tso los dim. Zoo dua tsi txhob muaj.

Born2beMhong

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Aug 2, 2010, 5:06:31 PM8/2/10
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very sad indeed, however, i had heard of this style before...during
the 80/90 era...where kids were seeking a way to join Gangster.

when we live in this country, you are either able to care for or give
them up to the government. if this boy is giving to the government,
and then he is bad. sooner or later, the government would crawling
back to the parents to go back and take their son back. at that time,
you just tell them to keep him, i believe i had an extend cousin...the
parents agreed to give her to the government--and when the government
cannot handle her. they wanted the parents to take her back. they
refused to do so, and let she lived here and there...

in america, if you cannot handle them...you then let the government
handles them.

Tony

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Aug 2, 2010, 5:41:48 PM8/2/10
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Cov yawm,

Mej nyeem tej nyuas ntawv xuvxwm, lug lajfaab toobfaab, lentawd xwb es
mej txawmsiv muab mej lub sab moog hlub nyuas mivnyuas ntawd lawm
ntaag? Mej puas paub taag saibseb nwg ualecaag es ho maag leejtxiv
muab xauv maj?

Has le Hmong-Lao has ces, ca kuv ntxiv mivntsiv quav, a little shit,
rua hab. Yog leejnam leejtxiv tsi txawj ua nam ua txiv (ob tug yeej
txawj kawg txhajle le muaj nwg) es tug mivnyuas txhajle zoo lentawd.
Qhovnuav, yog muab hab thim rovqaab moog dlebzog rua lub caij thaus
obtug tseem make love ces tsi yog love tamsis yog F xwb. Thaus yug
tau tug mivnyuas los twb yeej muaj teebmeem lug lawm. Yoglentawd ob
namtxiv ntawj lubneej txhajle tawg lawm hab.

Kuj tsi paub leejtxiv lub sabxaav, tamsis lawvle tej namtxiv moob coj
ces yeej yog hlub heev es txuj kevhlub ntawd txhajle tau coj nwg moog
dlhau txujcai lawm. Thaustwg tej namtxiv Moob tsi tshuav txujkev hlub
ntawd lawd, make love los tsi yog love, but just an "f" xwb ces,
mivnyuas yuav ualecaag los kevhlub tsi cheem nwg le lawm. Thaus ntawd
ces tej meskas kws yuav ceeb hab xaav tsi thoob ntawd yuav tsi muaj
dlaabtsi xaav hab yuav ceeb ntxiv lawm.

Qhovntawd ces lug txuas rua b2bm ntawd has lawm ntaag. Tej nyuas tub
ceebxwm, tej nyuas tuabneeg legnum saib mivnyuas tsaam raug namtxiv
tsimtxom ces tsuas ua nwg teg num kuas tau nyaj xwb. Tej nomtswv los
tsuas ua lawv txujcai hab xwb. Qhov kawg, tim tug mivnyuas tom qaab
kws ob namtxiv "f" ntawd lug los puab yeej tsi xaav hastxug le. Thasu
zoo lentawd, puab los kuj twg kev lawm hab. Qhov kws peb xaav tsitxug
ces yog cov tuabneeg kws sawv lug tivthaiv cov mivnyuas lug ntawm lub
npe hastas, "puab yog mivnyuas." Cov nuav yog cov has hab rhawv kuas
muaj txujcai es tej nyuas nomtswv hab nwg tej nyuas dlev lawv nqaj
ntawd txhajle tau mivnyuas hab tej namtxiv ntawd caum ua pluag noj
pluag haus.

Ibqho kws luas rhawv muaj tej cai ntawd los kuj yog tej mivnyuas hlwb
tsi qoog ntawd lujhlub es "f" xwb tsi yog make love ces txhajle tsim
tej mivnyuas ib tam dlhau moog rua ib tam. Thaus txawv cov tuabneeg
zoo le nuav ces cov kws muaj lub sabhlub le tej namtxiv moob txhajle
maag puab tej ntxab ntawd ib tug taag ib tug tuaj.

Moob los kuj yog tim Moob lub nyuas neej ntshais "poob ntsejmuag"
ntawd hab. Yog zejzog tsi ua zaaj hab txhob le ub le nua, ces tej
namtxiv kws muaj teeb meem nrug tej mivnyuas yuav tsi faavsab lug tuab
puab lub nyuas "ntsejmuag" ntawd kuas tsi txhob poob.

Has moog has lug (say go say come) nwg yog pebMoob tug cwjpwm kws
uarua pebMoob tej tswvcuab maag tej xwmtxheej nuav. Yoglentawd tsi
txhob taabncuab nyuas mivnyuas ntawd heev-heev losyog tsi txhob nyos
nkawm namtxiv ntawd hab. Yog yuav nyos ces rovqaab nyos yug ntaag.
Tug mivnyuas ntawd los yog Moob. Ob namtxiv ntawd los yog Moob. Nwg
yog yug ntaag.

kwvtijhmoob

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Aug 3, 2010, 9:40:55 AM8/3/10
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On Aug 2, 4:06 pm, Born2beMhong <truelove_never...@yahoo.com> wrote:

py born-- qhov koj hais government take care no kuj yog ib qho tshiab
rau kuv. raws li kuv paub mas nws tsis yog government take care. nws
yog foster parents take care. kuv twb muaj 1 tug neeg txheeb ze muaj
1 tug me nyuam raug coj mus rau foster parents take care lawm. lawv
tsuas take care tus me nyuam txog thaum nws muaj 18 xyoo xwb. Thaum
nws muaj hnub nyoog 18 lawm ces tus me nyuam yuav mus nyob qhov twg,
nyob li cas thiab ho rov los nrog niam txiv nyob los lawv tsis care
lawm. tab sis yog tus me nyuam hnub nyoog tsis tau muaj 18 xyoo no
ces lawv yeej tsis pub tus me nyuam rov qab los nrog niam thiab txiv
nyob li lawm nawb yog cov case zoo li case no nas vim lawv ntshais
tsam rov muaj abuse dua.

hais txog case no kuv paub yeej muaj peb cov hmoob coob coob tus niam
txiv tau ua tej zoo li no rau lawv tej nyuam ntau tus lawm, tsuas yog
nej tsis tau pom tawm nws li case no xwb. qhov tseeb peb hmoob tej
niam txiv tsis yog ntxub tej me nyuam es muab tsim txom, tab sis yog
lawv hlub thiab xav kom tej me nyuam tsim txhiaj es qhuab qhia thiab
muab ceem tseg rau hauv tsev no tab sis peb ho tsis nco qab txog hais
tias muaj txoj cai nyob ntawd, peb yuav ua tsis tau dhau txoj cai no
ces thiaj mag zoo li no.

Born2beMhong

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Aug 3, 2010, 10:50:35 AM8/3/10
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kwvtijhmoob,

koj mas....foster care twb yog government pob me nyiaj xwb ned...ua li
cas koj tseem tsi paub txog tej no thiab lod. Foster care zoo tib yam
li peb hmoob nyob noj welfare rau thaum 80 thiab 90 ntag mas. qhov
no, thiaj li qhia tau tias--coj mus rau government care lawm no
mas...koj mas!

cov me nyuam khiav ciaj khiav tuag thiab ua heev npaum li tom niam
txiv no rau tej me foster care no thiab maj....es lawv thiajli kom
niamtxiv rov mus tos los mas.

ua tsaug rau koj cov lus nawb...Born

Moobsib

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Aug 3, 2010, 5:15:59 PM8/3/10
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Kwvtijhmoob and all,

Yeej muaj le koj has nawb.. Peb ib tsoom nam txiv Hmoob ib txha tseem
tsi tau thoob tsib zoo txug luas tej cai nyob rooj teb nua ces thaus
puab coos txuj lawd puab yeej siv tej disciplinary techniques kws ib
nyuas dhlau num nrim zoo le caag los kuj muaj taag. Tej tug mivnyuas
kws raug nam-txiv ntaus tuag tsheej tsig los yeej nov hab pum dlua lug
le lawm os.

MS

noogdlej

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Aug 4, 2010, 2:17:25 PM8/4/10
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Tony aws...

Koj cov lug ces yeej muaj le lub tseemntsab lawm luas mas. Kev hlub
mivnyuas ces yeej tsi dlua ntawm namtxiv kev hlub. Peb feebcoob huv
nuav yeej yog nam yog ntxiv hab yeej muaj mivnyuas. Yug ua nam ua
txiv yeej paub lawm hastas tug mivnyuas twg yoojyim qha hab tugtwg
tawv dlua. Kuv xaav tas tug mivtub kws raug khi nuav yog tub muaj 13
xyoos lawm es leejtxiv tseem muab khi le nuav ces tejzag leejtxiv yeej
kawg tswv8 lawm. Either yug khi es yug qhuabqha le kws yug tswjtau
los cas nwg ua lawv nwg lub sabnyam es nomtswv maam coj moog hlob
kaavhlau ua dlub le "bitch" xwb.

Has txug kev qhuabqha peb cov namtxiv yeej muaj anger mangement
problem hab yuav tau moog xyum tswj yug tug kheej tsaam ua dlhau cai.
Moob le muaj nqee case miv-miv le nuav xwb peb tub chimsab ualuaj.
Meskas le tseem muab mivnyuas tua tuabsi hab. Suavdlawg txhob rau
txim nyaav rua John obtug ob namtxiv hab. Peb yeej hlub tug mivtub
ntawd ob lub qhovmuag tabsi peb tsi paub the story behind tsevneeg
nuav lubneej.

noogdlej

Taumdub

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Aug 4, 2010, 4:40:06 PM8/4/10
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Cov yawg,

Tej yam zoo li no los Hmoob yeej tseem hais tias yog tim luag tej niag
cai phem xwb no hos. Tseem muaj cov cem hais tias yog lawv tsi muaj
nyiaj noj es xav tsim tej niag cai no los ua kom lawv muaj kam ua xwb
no laiv. Kuv muaj ib yawg phoojywg mus ua cov haujlwm CPS no mas Hmoob
nim hlawv xyab hlawv ntawv foom yawg thiab tiag. Muaj ib zaum nais
phoos lawv cov qhab nab tseem cov tau ib pab vevteslas mus ncaws pluav
tshauv nram court house. Tabsis luag tsi niam quav ntsej. Xam xa rauj
nrov nrawj cov me nyuam Hmoob mus adoption lawm xwb ne.

Ua yam twg los yeej tsi haum Hmoob lub siab os lawv. Hmoob ces tsi yog
pom txiv ntoo es mam nce mus de noj xwb hos pom thaum twg ces xuas
taus ntov kiag xwb nav.

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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Aug 4, 2010, 5:31:41 PM8/4/10
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John,

Good family relationships are essential to making adjustments when
people begin raising their own family in later years.

It is inevitable, in a home, that the parents must control many
situations. Someone has to say "no" on many occasions, and it is the
responsibility of the parents to assume this authority. Children know
this, but they often have difficulty accepting it. In recommendation
of most psychologists today emphasizes that parents must definitely
show the children what the limits of freedom are, and stick to it. In
other words the parents cannot abdicate their responsibility without
expecting to have considerable trouble. At the same time, it is
necessary for parents to listen to their children and try to
understand what it is they are seeking. They must also understand that
family management is not easy and there will be times when they just
can't be permissive pals and at the same time maintain the authority
which is their responsibility. Children must learn that this is
essential in family life. They must learn to accept the authority
which is needed. Usually discussion is necessary to show the limits
and lines of responsibility, and it is generally better than arbitrary
commands.

Some studies have shown that there is not as much hostility between
teen-agers and their parents as one would sometimes imagine. Something
over 70 percent, polls have shown, of teen-agers questioned, feel that
their parents are doing a good job of managing things, and would turn
to them for advice and help if problems arose. This is true even
though on particular issues there might be strong disagreement.

It has definitely been shown that teen-agers hope their parents will
set limits as to what they are allowed to do, and are in fact
disappointed if they do not do so. Many a 16 or 17 year old daughter
has appreciated a definite rule on where she may go or what time she
must be home from a date, because it strengthens her own position and
is a support when pressures are brought from the outside.

As a matter of fact, teen-agers desperately want boundaries. They know
they need clearly defined limits within which it is safe to function.
They realize their uncertainty and confusion and look to adults to
keep them from getting too far out of line. They are often relieved
when their parents step in and redirect them before they go too far.
They feel safe and secure when responsible adults care enough about
them to protect them from the danger around and within each of them,
parents will make a rule model for the children.

YTK

Hmong-Lao

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Aug 5, 2010, 9:27:03 AM8/5/10
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PY YTK,
Tos py noogdlej critics koj os. John puas tuaj nrog peb tham hauv no
mas.

HL

Moobsib

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Aug 5, 2010, 3:42:25 PM8/5/10
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YTK,

Koj yeej tshajlij kawg lawm lauv.. Ua tsaug os. Peb noob neej feem
coob ces yeej coj tau lawv le has ntawd. Tawm sis muaj qee leej los
sis qee nkawm nam txiv kws puab cov genes sis tov tau cov mivnyuas
hyperactive ces yeej nyuaj kawg nkaus rua puab. Taab txawm yuav muaj
good disciplinary rules zoo npaum twg los kawg cov mivnyuas yeej
active (txhoj) le ntawd ces yeej ceeb tis laaj kawg nkaus. Tawm sis
yog nkawm nam txiv twg coj cai muaj quas hab paub txug tsoomfwv tej
cai zoo es nrhav kev paab cuam ntawm tsoom fwv, instead of taking the
law into their own hands ces yug kuj tsi raug plaub.

Ua tsaug,

ms

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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Aug 5, 2010, 5:17:05 PM8/5/10
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Hmong_lao,

HL, John tsis tuaj hauv no-no leej twg yog tus tuaj sau qhov Topic no
maj?

> PY YTK,
> Tos py noogdlej critics koj os.

Koj los lus no yog txhais li cas maj? HL, Tej kev sau ntawv, kev hais
lus, kev txawj ntse ntawd, kuv xav nug koj hais tias peb muab qhov twg
coj los sau coj los hais,coj los qhuab qhia tib neeg, ib tus neeg yog
tsis muaj kev kawm txuj ci, koj yuav pib qhov twg tuaj qhia tau rau
tib neeg? thaum yug tau los ua tib neeg lawm yuav pib xyaum ntxeev rau
ub rau no, xyaum nkag, xyaum noj mov, xyaum hais lus los ntawm niam
thiab txiv, thaum loj tuaj hnub nyoog 4 xyoo nce lawm yuav tau mus
xyaum kawm A B C, dhaum ntawd mus yuav tau pib qib 1 mus txog qib 12,
ntu uas kawm qib 1 txog 12 no yog koj mus ua dab tsis maj? yog mus
kawm ntawv. Mus kawm ntawv yog dab tsis? mus kawm ntawv yog mus kawm
txuj ci taug luag txoj lw kev txawj ntse, thaum dhau qib 12 tas lawm,
ho mus pib xyoo 1 txog xyoo 4, dhau no mus 2 xyoos ntxiv, dhau 2 xyoo
ho mus 4 xyoo ntxiv kom tau Dr. degree. Xyoo 1 mus txog xyoo 8 yog koj
mus kawm ua dab tsis thiab yog koj xav tau dab tsi? Yog xav tau kev
paub txog luag kev txawj kev ntse kev ua neeg, xavtau neeg lub tswv
yim zoo coj los qhia tib neeg kom sawv daws ntse sib xws, tus neeg
yeej xeeb txawm tau ntse nruab thiab los tus ntawd mus kawm tau ntawv
haj yam ntse dua qub tuaj. Tus neeg tsis ntse tab sis xav txawj thiab
xav tau xav pom neeg txoj kev ntse tus ntawd mob siab kawm mus muaj ib
hnub nws yuav tau luag lwm tus lub tswv yim ntse coj los siv rau nws
tus kheej thiab nws tsev neeg, tus uas yeej muaj lub hlwb ntse tiag
tiag tus ntawd yuav los ua tau tus coj nws haiv neeg mus rau txoj kev
zoo, kev vam meej. Txhua txhua yam kev kawm ntawv puav leej yog mus
taug luag txoj lw, mus muab luag li txuj ci coj los rau yus tus kheej
siv, qhov no yog qhov tseeb, koj twb paub lawm hais tias yog li cas
koj thiaj txawj sau ntawv? yog nyob nyob es koj cia li txawj sau ntawm
yam tsis tau mus kawm sau li, "qhov no tsis muaj" yuav tau kawm thiaj
txawj thiaj paub sau, Yog li cas koj thiaj txawj ua txiv xaiv? ua txiv
tuam meej koob? ua kav xwm? koj nyob nyob tsis kawm li koj puas ua
tau? "Ua tsis tau ib zaug li." Yog koj ua tau txiv tuam meej koob,ua
tau kav xwm, ua tau txiv coj xais lawm no, yog li cas thiaj ua tau?
yuav tsum yog tau kawm lawm, yog tau kawm lawm no yog ua dab tsis?
Yog mus xyaum qog raws li tus qauv lw txheej txheem kev hais lus, kev
ua tsaug, kev faib nqaij, kev txais qhua, kev qhuab ntuas kom neeg coj
zoo. Tej li kuv hais los saum no puav leej yog mus kawm luag li coj
los ua yus tus kheej li, coj los siv rau lub neej kev ua neeg. Koj
yuav tau teb koj thiab noog dlej neb los lus tias critics ntawd saib
yog txhais li cas? rau kuv paub nawb Hmong_lao. Neb yuav xav tias kuv
muab luag tug los ua yus tug no, ua li nev koj kawm ntawv yog koj kawm
leej twg li kev txawj ntse thiab maj? los yog koj rov kawm koj li lub
tswv yim kev txawj ntse nkaus nkaus xwb?...... sib ntsib dua.

YTK

noogdlej

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YTK,

qhov py Hmong-Lao has yog koj cov lug tshawbfawb kws koj muab sau tawm
nuav na. Yog yug moog kaij lwmtug le kev tshawbfawb hab kevkawm lug
pav rua lwmtug, yug yuavtsum txawj cais hab siv tug ntawd lub npe los
yog qhov references kws yug moog muab tau coj lug nthuav tawm. Yog
yug moog kaij ib qhov lug es yug tsi cais le es casle muab siv le kws
yug yog tug rhawv cov lug ntawd tawm ces yog txhumcai ntawm kev sau
ntawv lawm. Nwg hu ua plagiarism.

noogdlej

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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On Aug 5, 10:08 pm, noogdlej <dlai...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> YTK,
>
> qhov py Hmong-Lao has yog koj cov lug tshawbfawb kws koj muab sau tawm
> nuav na.  Yog yug moog kaij lwmtug le kev tshawbfawb hab kevkawm lug
> pav rua lwmtug, yug yuavtsum txawj cais hab siv tug ntawd lub npe los
> yog qhov references kws yug moog muab tau coj lug nthuav tawm.  Yog
> yug moog kaij ib qhov lug es yug tsi cais le es casle muab siv le kws
> yug yog tug rhawv cov lug ntawd tawm ces yog txhumcai ntawm kev sau
> ntawv lawm.  Nwg hu ua plagiarism.
>
> noogdlej
>

Noogdlej thiab Hmoob Lao,


Ua tsaug ntau kws meb yog ob tug uas paub txog kev sau ntawv English,
kuv xav kawm xav paub kawg nkaus, li ntawd neb yuav tau qhia rau kuv
tias, tug neeg mus kaij luag li los thiab tus neeg uas nws sau nws li
lub tswv yim tawm los ntawd txawv li cas rau li cas? How do you know?
Zoo kawg uas peb tseem muaj cov neeg paub npaum li neb thiab.

1). Neb yuav tau qhia cov lus uas kuv sau ntawd tias, qhov twg yog
qhov kaij luag li los? los sis yog los lus twg kiag?

2). Yog li cas neb thiaj paub tias los lus ntawd yog kaij luag li los
ua yus li, los twg thiaj yog tus kheej sau?

3). Neb paub tias cov lus kuv sau ntawd lub teb chaws twg yog tus muab
lub tswv yim sau ua phau ntawv qhia
tib neeg, nyob rau hauv tiam pes tsawg lawm?

4). Tej ntawv neb sau ua lus yam twg los xij puas yog neb sau hauv neb
lub tswv yim nkaus nkaus xwb los yog neb mus kawm luag tus qauv sau
ntawv coj los sau?

5) Yog neeg tsis tau kawm dua los no nws puas txawj sau? thiab nrog
rau neb tus kheej ne puas txawj sau coj los qhia tib neeg thiab?

6). Tsam no xav paub seb neb mus kawm lub tsev kawm qhov twg es neb
yuav tshaj lij tob twv tau zoo ua luaj txog kev sau ntawv?

7). Cov neeg txawj ntse li Hum chis Min, thiab Mao Tze Tong nkawd vim
li cas thiaj txawj muab lav thib Lees nees coj los qhia hais kom neeg
ntseeg yus?

8). Yog tias neb qhia tsis tau rau kuv zaum no ces, ntseeg tau tias
kuv hu tau neb yog ob tug ZAB dag lawm ntag? tsuav yog yus sau tsis
tau li luag sau ces yus txawm tias luag kaij los?

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intellingence was simply taken for granted. People who had it were
said to be 'bright," and those who lacked it were called "dull." Now
we know that hardly a human being is born who does not have
intellingence. The questin is: How much intellingence does you have
and of what kind? It seems that intellingence deffers from person to
person in that some peaple are skillful with words and ideas, other
with their hands, and still others in ability to meet with and get
along with people.

Luag tej laus hais tias pos kaus nraj tsis yuav hliav, neeg ntse tsis
yuav luag lwm tus piav ces yog neb ntag, tej li lolus piv txwv no tsis
tseeb, tus neeg txawm yuav ntse npaum cas los Hmoob hais tias nkauj
txawj yuav yuam ib rauv, tub txawj yuav yuam ib hneev, koj txawm txawj
ntse npaum cas los yuav yuam kev yuav tau kawm luag li coj los pab,
tos tej laus hais tias neeg ruam kawm tau ntawv ruam, tus neeg ntse
kawm tau ntawv ntse, txawm tias ob leeg mus kawm tib lub tsev kawm
political tas, coj txoj kev txawj ntse rov los txog muaj ib tig siv
tau hauj lwm, ua tau ib tus neeg txuj, muaj ib tug ces tsuas txawj
nyeem ntawv xwb ces yog zoo li no.

YTK

yawgnomdub

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Cov yawg

Peb yuav tau sib saib taug thiab ua tib neeg cais kuv xav tias ib leeg
yeej ntse tsi tshaj ib leeg npaum twg. Qhov ib tus ho tau haujlwm zoo
tshaj ib tug lossis ho muaj nyiaj tshaj ib tus ntawm kuj yog los ntawm
1. kev ntse, 2. muaj phooj ywg thiab 3. txoj hmoo. Kuv nyeem nej hl,
noogdlej thiab ytk nej cov ntawv tas mas tej zaum neb muab yawg ytk
saib qai zog lawm. Kuv kuj tsi paub zoo tabsis tau ib nyuas ntu los
lawm twb muaj tug hais tias hl yog lpdr ib tus spy no tej zaum kuj yog
ytk muab tawm tsam lpdr heev dhau lawm es thiaj ua rau yawg muab ytk
tshuav los kuj tsi paub. Ho noog dlej mas thiaj tseem tseem yog noog
dlej tiag tiag pom lwm tus ya cais lam ya xwb los kuj tsi paub. Tsi
yog li no cais ho yog yawg ytk muab tawm tsam vp lawm cov vaj vov vaj
pam no tej politiv heev dhau es niag pog khib siab heev es pog ho
tshum ntxiv xwb rau qhov niag pog yog Youa True Vang tsev neeg nej.
Kuv ho muab hais ntau zog lawm tabsis ho thov zam txim thiab es peb ho
ib yuag respect ib leeg thiab.

Moobsib

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Nyob zoo tus tijlaug YTK,

Ua caag koj yuav ua nyaum ua luaj rua ob tug naj?

Thaus kuv nyeem koj dlaim post #12 taag kuv yeej muaj ntsis xoom xaim
los is ua xyemxyaav tas, tej zag, yog koj moog copy ib qho twg lug hab
tawm sis nwg ho tsi txug kuv quas nkig luaj twg vim tas kuv tsi tau
kawm muaj degree lug dlua ces kuv tsis paub txug luas txuj cai sau
ntawv.

Kuv ho muab koj dlaim post #17 kws koj teb HmongLao hab Noogdlej ob
tug lug nyeem kuj ho xaam pum tas koj muaj spelling hab grammar errors
nyob rua huv ntau hujsim. Le caag los xij, 2 tug le lug tib, lug thuam
kuj yog ib qho zoo rua koj hab peb suav dlawg kawm.

Ua tsaug ntau,

ms

Hmong-Lao

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PY YTK,
Ua ntej tshajplaws, cia kuv teb koj txog lo lus "critic" tso. Los lus
no tsis yog ib lo lus phem os, nws yog ib lo lus uas polite tshajplaws
uas yuav hais tau lawm. Lus Hmoob kiag twb tsis muaj nawb. Los lus no
txhais hais tias "mloog, sojntsuam, saib, txiavtxim (judge) thiab qhia
kom tus ntawd ras txog es nws thiaj paub txim kho rau kom zoo dua qub
tuaj".

Hos hais txog kab lus ob (John), kuv yog tus totaub yuam kev lawm os.
Kuv totaub yuam kev hais tias koj hais rau tus John Vang uas raug
teebmeem no. Qhov tseeb, yog koj hais rau tus John uas tuaj post qhov
xovxwm xwb. Thov zam txim.

Rov los teb koj cov lus dua:
Koj cov lus yeej hais yog kawg lawm, peb txhua tus yeej yog kawm tau
luag lub tswvyim es thiaj txawj hais xwb. Koj tus ua tij ho tsis txhob
tu siab rau wb cov lus critic thiab. Peb ua neeg nyob ces yeej txawj
yuam kev, kuv yuam kev lawm los koj qhia, koj yuam kev lawm los kuv
qhia; li no peb thiaj li yuav nce qib taus nawb.

Ho teb koj lo lus hais tias vim li cas xwb ho xav hais tias yog koj
qog lwm tus cov lus. Qhov no nws yog wb qhov kev judge xwb. Tejzaum
kuj judge tau yog, tejzaum kuj yuam kev. Txawm yuam kev lawm los thov
koj zam txim, hos yog wb judge yog lawm los koj yuav tau txhim kho
thiab. Kuv ntseeg hais tias coob coob tus uas lawv tsis hais dabtsi li
los lawv yeej xav tsis txawv deb wb xav thiab, tabsis lawv ntshai tsam
ho siab koj, yog li lawv thiaj tsis hais dabtsi.

Hais txog kev qog lwm tus, peb yeej muaj cai qog kawg, tabsis yog peb
xav kom luag saib yus li ib tug neeg paub tab, yus yuav tau muab
credit rau tus neeg uas yus qog nws ntawd. Tej tswv yim li no los puav
leej yog wb mus kawm ntawm tus kws qhia ntawv los thiab xwb, tabsis wb
ho muab hais ua wb lus lawm.

Txawm hais tau siab koj lawm los thov zam txim. Qhov tseeb, koj cov
lus ntawd yeej yog ib co lus nyiaj lus kub. Ua tsaug uas koj mus kawm
tau los koj tseem coj tuaj nthuav qhia pub rau peb.

HL

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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Tug kwv Moobsib,


Ua tsaug rua koj cov lug txhawb, tej tuab neeg kuj muaj tug txhoj pob
le koj has los muaj, txawm muaj zoo tswv yim los yeej khu tsis tau le,
yog tug twg txhoj lawm tes tsuas ywj rua nws saib seb yuav ua tau moog
rua txuj kev zoo le caag lawm xwb, tug tuab neeg tau quav yaam twg
lawm tes ceeb laaj thim tau rov lug nyob qhov qub, txawm le has ntawd
los txuj kev saib xyuas yeej tseem taug nws qaab tsis tu ncua, qhov
kws ib tus miv nyuas yuav zoo tau tes feem ntau yog yus ua nam ua txiv
yog tug xyum ua qauv zoo ua ntej, tej miv nyuas txhaj xyum lawv le yus
ua nam ua txiv ua mas yog yog qhov tseem ceeb huv lub hauv paug caag,
yog yug ua yawg rauj puj nrauj, nyob ua dlog ua dlig ces tej miv nyuas
muaj teeb meem los yug twb tsis pum qaab yuav qhuab ntuag qha tau moog
rua zaaj twg tau. Yus has ntau los tej miv nyuav has tas peb tsis ua
tshaaj qhov koj ua, peb tsuas xyum ua le koj ua xwb le ntawd.

Uatsaug,

YTK

Hmong-Lao

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PY Moobsib,
Ua tsaug uas koj pab hliv dej rau kom hluav taws tsis txhob txais os.

PY Yawgnomdub,
Koj xav yuam kev lawm pob, kuv tsis tau saib phoojywg YTK qaij li koj
hais os. Kuv yeej ib txwm saib nws tam li ib tug zoo tij thiab ib tug
laus uas muaj zoo tswvyim, mob siab rau yus haiv neeg laid. Tej lus
kuv hais rau phoojywg YTK no tsis muaj feem cuam tshua txog qhov uas
muaj leej puav ntaus nqi hais tias kuv yog LPDR agent no os. PY YTK
yog ib tug neeg paub tom ntej tom qab, nws tsis lam hais tias kuv yog
LPDR agent li nad. Tus hais ces yog ib tug phoojywg nyob Milwaukee,
hos ib tug ces nyob qaum Sacramental xwb (tsis hais npe). Tabsis kuv
twb tsis chim rau nkawv os, vim kuv xav hais tias nkawv tseem hluas
heev es thiaj totaub yuam kev no xwb.

HL

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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On Aug 6, 8:52 am, Moobsib <mongsh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Kwv Moobsib,

Kuv hais rau koj paub tias kuv tuaj tav no rau hauv no kuv kawm tsis
tau ib lub tswv yim zoo los ntawm sawv daws li, kuv tsuas pom sawv
daws sib thuam sib cav tas zaj tas zog xwb, txoj kev txim kho kev
qhuab qhia, tej yam zoo rau neeg tau kawm los tsis muaj, raws li kuv
paub mas tus neeg ntse mas nws mus kawm tau luag tus qauv sau ntawv
qauv hais lus los, nws tus kheej tseem sau tau zoo tshaj tus qauv qub
uas nws kawm los kuj muaj, ib yam li kev kawm ua phom tua, yus mus
muab ntawm lawv coj los saib xyaum, thaum yus ua tawm los yus tseem ua
tau yus rab zoo dua luag rab lawm ntau.

Tos hais tias cov tuaj hauv no es niaj hnub tuaj sib thuam tsi txav
taw li los yog zoo li no ntag, kuv qhia rau sawv daws tias tus neeg
muaj txuj zoo lawm yuav tsis qhav theeb tias ntse npaum ub npaum no
rau sawv daws mloog.


HL,

Hais txog kev sau ntawv, yus mus kawm tau los yus twb tsis sau raws
nraim li lawv sau, tej qhov lawv sau twb tsis raug li qhov yus lub
siab xav sau thiab ne, yus tsuas kawm tus qauv txheej txheem sau ntawv
xwb es yuav ua cas muab tau lawv lub npe tias yog yawg no sau no maj?
We also hear older people of as having their habits "pretty well set"
The older the person, according to some, the more fixed his habits.
There is much truth in this, since the older we are and the longer we
live, the more firmly established by practice and custom some of our
habits become.


Kwv Yawgnomdub,


Ua tsaug rau koj cov lus, leej twg yuav hais li cas los tau, kuv
ntseeg tau hais tias muaj coob tus yeej kawm tau lub tswv yim thiab
txoj kev paub ntawm kuv lawm, tsis yog kuv yuav khav tab sis kuv tsuas
hais qhov dawb paug li muaj xwb. Muaj ib txhia ces hais hais tsis yeej
yus lawm ces tig rov los thuam yus li ub li no. Nyob li hauv txoj kev
ntseeg Vajtswv ntawd cov XF twb yog mus kawm ntawm cov lus zoo hauv
phau Bible coj los hais, xws li XF Dr. Txawj teev Vaj nes peb Hmoob
ntau tus cov hauv Church twb qhuas qhuas yawg hais tias yawg mas piav
tau zoo thiab ntse kawg no, tej kev txawj ntse ntawd twb yog muab hauv
Bible coj los hais xwb thiab nev ua cas ho tsis muaj neeg hais tias
yog yawg kaij los no maj. Ib yam li thaum ub Dr. Yang Dao mus koom
nrog nplog txog kev txhim kho kev lag luam ntawd mas tas nrho VP qhab
nab hais tias Yawg Dao ua liab lawm lawv cem tas zog, tab sis ua cas
VP ob txiv tub ho mus ntsib tus nais phoo Nyab Laj pem Hanoid uas
thaum tua tua peb ntawd ho tsis muaj leej twg cem ib los li, yog li
mas kuj muaj tseeb li koj hais lawm thiab tiag laiv.


Moobsib aw,

koj yuav ntseeg tia yog kuv mus copy lwm qhov los no los tsis ua cas
li, peb txhua tus yeej tsis muaj ntawv kawm, tsuas qiv lwm tus li
ntawv kawm ntawv sau xwb ces, kuv ntseeg tias peb txhua tus puav leej
yog mus kawm mus kaij mus qog luag li tas tus es thiaj txawj sau ntawv
sib thuam hauv no los mas. In learning how to play a new game
requiring a new set of habits, find out what the game calls for, what
the principle rules are, and what the more important and most frequent
plays will be.

YTK

Moobsib

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Cov bojyaig, kwvluag:

Le caag los xij, yeeb vim yug tsob nyuas Hmoob nyav xyum nrug lub
ntlaj teb neeg coj cai vaammeej ces yug txhaj le pheej sis phoom, sis
phoom le nuav. Yuav tsum muaj kev sis thuam, sis caav kuas txaus hab
mas peb txhaj le yuav ceem tau peb txhua leej kuas taug/qoog tagx.
Yaav dhlau lug peb haj yam sis nplawg mob hab qas tshaaj plawg lug
lawm cav peb suav dlawg haj tseem nyob peb le qub.

YTK, thaus kuv pheej caav mej cov lug has txug hab xyaav txug Blog Lab
txuj kev tsimtxom, caijtsuj peb Hmoob, nig nuav kuv kuj los xaav/
xeevxwm tas kuv yeej muab has nchaav zog rua mej lawm. Kuv yeej regret/
tusab rua tej lug kuv tau has rua mej lawm hab. Txawm le ntawd los
xij, peb suav dlawg yuav tau xyum hab kawm quas tag kuas peb coj tau
hum lub ntlaj teb neeg, peb txhaj yuav nrug luas muaj taug kev
thaajyeeb.

Ua tsaug ntau,

ms

brushoff

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Grow up f Hmong, this is America. I love my children like butterfly,
right or wrong, I can only praise they to grow up heathy and living to
at large.

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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PY Hmong_lao, Noogdlej,

Kuv ntseeg tau hais tias peb cov tuaj hauv SCH no muaj ntau leej ntau
tus muaj menthol nyob hauv nws tus kheej lawm tiag tiag, vim tias peb
cia li ntseeg tej yam uas tus neeg ntawd lam sim saib seb koj kuv peb
leej twg ntse npaum li cas tiag no los tseem twb tsis paub qees, piv
li los lus tias "critics" los lus no ua cas leej twg ho yuav tsis
paub, ntseeg tias peb cov tuaj rau hauv SCH no yuav tsum paub txhua
tus. Tsis tas li ntawd xwb thaum ub tus kwv lha tau hais rau kuv hais
tias kom kuv thiab lha wb los sib challenge txog tus kev cai dab qhua
Siv Yis thiab Yesxus ntawd, kuv tau teb tias yog yuav los sib
challenge txog tej kev cai dab qhuas no mas kuv yuav tsis nrog lha
challenge, rau qhov kuv tsis paub lus English no xwb ces Noogdlej cia
li hais tias ua cas kuv tsis paub English no kuv ho sau tau qhov "self-
confidence" hais tau muaj ceem ua luaj mas yog kuv mus muab luag tug
los ua kuv ntiag tus. Raws li kuv tau muab tej lus uas sau sib thuam
no coj los luj ces pom tau tias peb tseem poob qis heev txog rau fab
kev ua political los sis muab Psychology coj los ntxeeb soj neeg lub
hlwb kom nws ntsia lub pob zeb cia li yog dej, yog nqaij hno, yog tswm
ciab paj ntoos tej no tseem tshuav muaj ntau nyob rau hauv yus cov
Hmoob tsis tau txawj txog, kuv ntseeg tau tias cov lus uas thaum ub
kuv tau hais ib los lus rau lwm qhov post tias tuaj hauv no ces yog
lam tuaj xwb pev cov hauv no tsis yog cov yuav los kho tau Hmoob lub
neej, cov yuav los ua thiab kho Hmoob mas tsis tuaj rau hauv SCH no,
ces Born2bh tau teb rau kuv hais tias Born2b ntseeg tias peb cov tuaj
tau rau hauv SCH no twb yog cov uas paub thiab tshaj lij tshaj thiaj
tuaj tau rau hauv no, cov nyob tom tsev lawv twb tuaj tsis txog rau
hauv SCH no mas twb tsis npaum li peb lawm, kuv ntseeg tias cov lus
Born2b hais ntawd yeej yog lus, li no kuv ntseeg tias peb cov tuaj
hauv no yuav tsum paub ntawv thov tau nyog mov noj lawm, "thiab muaj
li tus kwv Yawgnomdub hais li nram no tias."

> Peb yuav tau sib saib taug thiab ua tib neeg cais kuv xav tias ib leeg
> yeej ntse tsi tshaj ib leeg npaum twg. Qhov ib tus ho tau haujlwm zoo
> tshaj ib tug lossis ho muaj nyiaj tshaj ib tus ntawm kuj yog los ntawm
> 1. kev ntse, 2. muaj phooj ywg thiab 3. txoj hmoo. Kuv nyeem nej hl,
> noogdlej thiab ytk nej cov ntawv tas mas tej zaum neb muab yawg ytk
> saib qai zog lawm.

Yawgnomdub cov lus no muaj tseeb thiab hais tau ncaj ncees, yeej muaj
li Yawgnomdub hais lawm peb cov tuaj rau hauv no ces zoo li txiv quav
kws tsuas liab tib yam, sib xws tsis muaj tug yuav tshaj tug ntau
npaum li cas.

Hais txog kuv cov lus nug "questios" nqe 1 txog nqe 8 rau Hmoob-lao
thiab Noogdlej ob tug ntawd mas nkawm tsis muaj cuab kav teb tau raws
nraim kuv cov lus nug ib nqe li, txhais tau tias yog ob tug lam tau
lam hais tsis paub txog hlwb neeg lub tswv yim, paub tsis txog neeg
sau ntawv, paub tsis txog tus cuj pwm fai kev sib thom neeg, paub tsis
txog tus txwm ntawv tes tias yog leej twg sau, paub tsis txog lub cauj
lug kev sib tooj hlua saib seb yuav rhaus mus khi tau leej twg, tsis
paub txog lub niam tswv yim yuav muab qhov dub ntxeev tau mus ua
dawb, muab qhov dawb ntxeev mus ua tau dub, twb tsis paub los hais
tias paub, twb tsis pom los hais tias pom, ua neeg tsis txhob mus
xyaum hais tej lus uas luag nug rov qab rau yus ces yus teb tsis tau
luag li ntawd. Peb yuav tau tsis txhob qaug cawv hais lus, Drugs
talking, not impossible way, it is important to recognize that this
may become a problem for other people, and sometimes most
unexpectedly.

Kuv ntseeg tau hais tias tib neeg tsis zoo ib yam, tsis coj ib yam,
tsis hais ib yam, piv li ib tug Xib Fwb txawj ua neeb, mus cob ib tug
thwj tim sawv neeb tshiab, thaum tus sawv neeb tshiab ntawd rooj neeb
ua tiav, txawj ua neeb ib yam li tus XF lawm los txoj kev hu txheeb
tej quas neeb twb txawv tsis sib xws, yus ntsia tus cwj pwm dhia yus
pom zoo xws li ib yam, tab sis cov txheej txheem neeb txawv ntawm tus
XF tau yam, kev kawm ntawv los kuj tib yam thiab sawv daws kawm tib
tug kws los nyias sau txawv nyias ntau heev, muaj tej tug tsuas txawj
sau ntawv xwb tsis paub qhov yuav sau kom muaj kuab muaj tshoom thawj,
muaj ntau leej tseem ntse tshaj nws tus nais khu lawm ntau npaug los
muaj. zoo li ntawd ib txhia thiaj tau num zoo ua, ib txhia thiaj tsis
tau num zoo ua li Yawgnomdub hais, qhov no muaj tseeb. peb twb paub
lawm hais tias yog vim li cas thiaj mus tos Dr. Ly yia tuaj puag
Australia tuaj cob qhia Hmoob rau asmeskas teb no yog los ntawm tej
kev ua kuv hais los no.

Kuv hais rau sawv daws tias ib tug neeg tuaj rau hauv lub SCH no lawm
ces yeej paub me me lawm thiaj tuaj txog qhov no li Born2bh tau hais
dhau los lawm. Peb tsis txhob nkag siab ntseeg yuam kev tias los lus
"critics" es tseem tsis paub thiab, yog leej twg tseem ntseeg los lus
ntawd thiab ces kuj yog yuav tau mus kawm txog kev luj neeg lub hlwb
me ntsis ntxiv thiab tso nawb. "Critics = txhais tias, kev hais saib
tshuav yam twg los sis kev qhuas thiab thuam kom zoo, los sis kho kom
zoo, lub ntsiab lus qhov tseeb yog ntaus nqi li no raws li kuv tus
laus no to taub lo lus." Neeg muaj zoo tswv yim yuav tau coj tuaj qhia
qhov tseeb, tsis txhob tuaj nto qaub caug rau lwm tus.


YTK

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Phoojywg YTK,
Kuv tsuas hais tau lo lus hais tias "thov zam txim" no xwb. Yog koj
yuav chim thiab tu siab los nyob txij ntawm koj. Li koj hais uas peb
sawvdaws cov tuaj hauv no yeej puav leej yog neeg txawj thiab paub tab
lawm. Tabsis tus neeg txawj los tsis tau txhais hais tias nws tsis
txawj yuam kev; thaum ho hais tau tej lo yuam kev lawm los kawg hais
thov txim
xwb. Kev yuav zam txim thiab tsis zam los nyob txij tus uas tau chim
thiab tu siab xwb.

Yog kuv yuav teb koj cov lus ib nqe zujzus li qhov koj tau nug ces yog
li phoojywg Nomdub hais lawm, hais tias kuv saib koj qaij, kuv muaj
pluaj siab xav rhuav koj, yog kuv xav kom koj poob ntsej muag. Tabsis
qhov ntawd tsis yog kuv qhov intention. Kuv qhov intention tsuas yog
xav ib nyuag remind koj txog qhov uas phoojywg Noodlej tau critic koj
yav dhau los xwb.

Yog koj hais tawm hauv koj txoj kev txawj kev paub
los ces tsuas qhia rau peb hais tias koj hais tawm hauv koj siab los
no xwb ces twb tag lawm. Tsis tag koj yuav chim ua luaj li ko os
phoojywg. Koj yim chim ces lwm tus yim totaub koj yuam kev ntxiv xwb.

PY Yawgnomdub,
Koj yog ib tug thiab los, uas xav hais tias kuv yog Nplog Liab tus
spy. Ha ha ha....

HL

Yaj Tshaj Koob

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> Kuv tsuas hais tau los lus hais tias "thov zam txim" no xwb. Yog koj

> yuav chim thiab tu siab los nyob txij ntawm koj. Li koj hais uas peb
> sawvdaws cov tuaj hauv no yeej puav leej yog neeg txawj thiab paub tab
> lawm. Tabsis tus neeg txawj los tsis tau txhais hais tias nws tsis
> txawj yuam kev; thaum ho hais tau yuam kev lawm ces kawg thov txim
> xwb. Kev yuav zam txim thaib tsis zam los nyob txij tus uas rau chim
> thiab tu siab lawm.

>
> Yog kuv yuav teb koj cov lus ib nqe zujzus li qhov koj tau nug ces yog
> li phoojywg Nomdub hais lawm, hais tias kuv saib koj qaij, kuv muaj
> pluaj siab xav rhuav koj, yog kuv xav kom koj poob ntsej muag. Tabsis
> qhov ntawd tsis yog kuv qhov intention. Kuv qhov intention tsuas yog
> xav ib nyuag remind koj txog qhov uas phoojywg Noodlej tau critic koj
> yav dhau los xwb. Yog koj hais tawm hauv koj txoj kev txawj kev paub
> los ces tsuas qhia rau peb hais tias koj hais tawm hauv koj siab los
> no xwb ces twb tag lawm. Tsis tag koj yuav chim ua luaj li ko os
> phoojywg. Koj yim chim ces lwm tus yim to taub koj yuam kev ntxiv xwb.
>
> HL


PY Hmoob_lao,


Ntawm kuv tus kheej mas kuv yeej tsis tu siab li tab sis lo lus tau
hais lawm ces hais kom kawg lub duas mam li tsum xwb, hais txog kev
yuav chim tu siab tau mas yuav tsum yog kev ua plaub ua ntug sib tim
ntej muag, li tej laus hais uas qaij dawb lam xeeb kas, neeg do lam
xeeb plaub mas thiaj chim thiaj tu siab, hais txog ntawm koj thiab PY
Noogdlej neb thiab kuv peb sawv daws tej kev phooj ywg tseem nyob li
qub, kev hais lus sib cav sib hais mas muaj ntau lawm tsis muaj dab
tsis lawm nawb, yim hais nyhav mas yim muaj kev paub tob rau yus tus
kheej, HL, koj txhob nyhav siab txog tej uas kuv tau sau hais neb
ntawd nawb, yog peb sib hais qho me ntsis li no xwb es txawm cia li
muab ua kev sib chim tu siab lawm ces, pev yuav ua cas mus nrog luag
sib ceg hauv xab phas tau.

Cuaj lub roob mas yuav sib sau tsis tau los ua ke, tab sis cuaj lub
hav dej yuav ntwg los sib sau ua ke tau. Yog li mas peb yuav tau ua
cuaj lub hav dej mas peb thiaj nyob tau ua ke, peb tsis txhob ua cuaj
lub roob ces yuav muaj kev dub muag. Ua tsaug ntau.


YTK

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