Journalistic satanists using deductive reasoning (drawing general
conclusions from specific instances - the logic of stereotyping and
racism) to create negative perceptions about Greece.
Here are some equivalent examples:
Crime statistics shows most violators are Black. Are Blacks prone to
violence?
Third violent riot in Athens. Is Greek society breaking apart?
Nomen Nescio just had 3 instances of tachycardia. Is he dying of heart
attack?
You are relatively new here. But don't prove yourself to be as dumb as
ADR and Arnakis.
>> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.ert.gr/webtv/index.php/co...
> The Greek community should wake up and smell the coffee boiling over.
> British satanists are engaged in mind warfare against Greece.
> They are trying to destroy Greece (and other countries) by predicting
> negative outcomes using mass media.
> Collective thinking does affect future outcomes.
> If many people's minds are synchronized on a certain thought (for
> example, the Euro will fail) this outcome is more likely to happen.
> This is an occult operation and a form of warfare.
Hihihi;-)
Now wait for the "intervention" of the skopian ADR/Roubini or the grey wolf troll in defense of the british media;-)
LOL
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>On Mar 18, 6:15 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
>> Is Greece becoming a third world country? HIV, Malaria and TB rates soar >> as health services are slashed by savage cuts
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115992/Is-Greece-world-count...
>Journalistic satanists using deductive reasoning (drawing general
>conclusions from specific instances - the logic of stereotyping and
>racism) to create negative perceptions about Greece.
>Here are some equivalent examples:
>Crime statistics shows most violators are Black. Are Blacks prone to
>violence?
>Third violent riot in Athens. Is Greek society breaking apart?
>Nomen Nescio
Call him by his real name: Yousoufaki-Arnaki;-)
>just had 3 instances of tachycardia. Is he dying of heart
>attack?
>You are relatively new here.
No, he is not;-)
> But don't prove yourself to be as dumb as
>ADR and Arnakis.
They are one and the same person (Yousoufaki-Arnaki and the anonymous poster);-)
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On Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:45:56 AM UTC-7, Nestor wrote:
> > Is Greece becoming a third world country? HIV, Malaria and TB rates soar as > > health services are slashed by savage cuts
We know that you are old, but, my man, I think that extreme right wing (charitably) videos about the Greek civil war are rather irrelevant in this discussion.
Listen, if you want to start an anti-communist rant, why don't you start a thread instead of trolling in all threads and posting these idiotic videos time after time.
Just in case you have not heard, the civil war is over. Now, let's talk turkey. How are going to begin these lashings that we were talking about? How are we going to find all these crypto-communists that lurk under our beds? Your creativity there would be appreciated.
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:15:06 AM UTC-7, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Is Greece becoming a third world country? HIV, Malaria and TB rates soar as health services are slashed by savage cuts
Much worse is going to come. There is no need to doubt any of this. In Russia, in the '90s, the crisis there resulted in the average life span decreasing by 15 years. The same is going to happen to Greece. Those who are the edge, will tip over due to the lack of care or drugs.
The government is cutting health care to 6% GDP. The number is right there in the last memorandum. Health expenditures were at 9.8% GDP in 2009. Considering the higher GDP at that time and considering that the average Greek had more disposable income, one can easily see that this would result in a public health crisis.
Expensive programs such as TB eradication and HIV control will be abandoned. No new drugs are likely to e put on the Greek formulary because of costs. The government already announced heavy reliance on older generics. Thus, if one needs expensive biologics (Rituxan, Avastin, Avonex), very important for several cancers, as well the whole slew of modern anti-cancer medication that is currently under patents and not genericized, one would be in a bad shape!!! I am sure that expected life span will decline along the same lines as in other countries under the same type of crisis.
> Much worse is going to come. There is no need to doubt any of this. In Russia, in the '90s, the crisis there resulted in the average life span decreasing by 15 years. The same is going to happen to Greece. Those who are the edge, will tip over due to the lack of care or drugs.
> The government is cutting health care to 6% GDP. The number is right there in the last memorandum. Health expenditures were at 9.8% GDP in 2009. Considering the higher GDP at that time and considering that the average Greek had more disposable income, one can easily see that this would result in a public health crisis.
> Expensive programs such as TB eradication and HIV control will be abandoned. No new drugs are likely to e put on the Greek formulary because of costs. The government already announced heavy reliance on older generics. Thus, if one needs expensive biologics (Rituxan, Avastin, Avonex), very important for several cancers, as well the whole slew of modern anti-cancer medication that is currently under patents and not genericized, one would be in a bad shape!!! I am sure that expected life span will decline along the same lines as in other countries under the same type of crisis.
Projecting your own incompetence and lack of imagination onto Greece
once again, eh?
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:24:32 AM UTC-7, Kickboxer ®™ wrote:
> Projecting your own incompetence and lack of imagination onto Greece
> once again, eh?
It is refreshing to see such a strong belief in the system. According to Kickboxer, Greece would do as well with 6% of GDP in health as it did with 9.8% GDP (and a higher GDP at that!!!).
Kickboxer, the hospital administrations and the physicians eagerly await your enlightened ideas on this!!!
>On Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:45:56 AM UTC-7, Nestor wrote:
>Listen, if you want to start an anti-communist rant, why don't you start a >thread instead of trolling in all threads and posting these idiotic videos >time after time.
Certainly!
Whoever disagrees with ADR/Roubini is...trolling;-)
You sound and act just like the red fascist apparatchiks would do;-)
LOL LOL LOL
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> On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 19:29:43 +0200, "gogu" <Ruminii...@Pula.com>
> wrote:
>>They are one and the same person (Yousoufaki-Arnaki and the anonymous
>>poster);-)
> You fucking idiot. I don't know anything about this guy. Can't you
> read headers?
Hehehe;-)
Following your own (i)logic: "...and only the fact that you are so vehemently denying it, is a proof it is true";-)))
How it is skopian, do you like you own medicine?!
LOL
Now go back and post some more anti-greek articles covered under the safety of some anonymous server!
You are a coward so we are not surprised at all;-)
PWN!
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>On Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:24:32 AM UTC-7, Kickboxer ®™ wrote:
>> Projecting your own incompetence and lack of imagination onto Greece
>> once again, eh?
>It is refreshing to see such a strong belief in the system. According to >Kickboxer, Greece would do as well with 6% of GDP in health as it did with >9.8% GDP (and a higher GDP at that!!!).
Yes, if you and your ilk will stop stealing from the IKA etc!
And as I can see lately IKA is doing a very good job unmasking people like you who are sucking the blood of the greek health system!
Soon they will come down to your relatives working in the health system and then we will see the true "glory" of the Retzios family;-)
>Kickboxer, the hospital administrations and the physicians eagerly await >your enlightened ideas on this!!!
Noooo, they await *YOUR* enlighten stupidities on this;-)
Fool!
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The people who took Greece out of the Third World are the much maligned
junta, in 1972, when Greece was the second fastest growing economy after
Japan. No, I do not support the junta but I think it was better than the four
bloody banana republic Venizelist coups which executed elected officials
and officers.
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vjp2...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>THe socialised medicine in Greece is what is turd whirled.
Greece does not have "socialzed" medicine. It has "crony-Mafioso"
medicine, where the ability to get care is measured by "fakelakia."
In the health system, as in just about everything in Greece, you have
laws and codified systems, which are widely ignored, and then you have
the reality, which is based of self-interest and corruption. Thus, in
medicine, you have a dual-track system, in which the wealthy use
private clinics, while the poor and middle class use the public
hospitals, knowing that they will still have to pay the shakedowns.
Likewise, in the education system, the rich send their kids to private
schools (the Arsakeio, Athens College, etc.) while the poor and middle
class send them to public schools, knowing that the instruction will
be sub-par and that therefore the kids will have to go to expensive
supplementary "frontisteria" staffed, to a large degree, by regular
teachers moonlighting from their public-school jobs at which they make
sure *not* to teach, so that the kids will be forced to go to them as
tutors. This is a system so rotten that words can't begin to describe
it.
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:07:15 PM UTC-7, (unknown) wrote:
> The people who took Greece out of the Third World are the much maligned
> junta, in 1972, when Greece was the second fastest growing economy after
> Japan. No, I do not support the junta but I think it was better than the four
> bloody banana republic Venizelist coups which executed elected officials
> and officers.
Four Venizelist coups???? And you not a Junta supporter??? Really?
In any case, the revolt of 1922 was led by Plastiras who had his own agenda. It was not as much as coup as a full scale revolt of the army.
Unfortunately just too few were executed for incompetence that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands and the homes and the livelihood of over 1 million people. This punishment, by a court, was really inadequate for the extent of the crimes committed and the incompetence shown. Hatzianestis, the commander in chief in the last stages of the war was clearly the most responsible of the lot (and those who selected them were as guilty). The man totally lost control of the military situation. In earlier times, not only he but his whole staff would have been executed. He was, among other senior officers, also clearly responsible for many crimes against civilians that made the cause of the Greek army in Anatolia so much more difficult.
Vassos, your version of Greek history is funny. But, the Plastiras coup almost a century ago is really not pertinent in this situation.
> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:45:56 AM UTC-7, Nestor wrote:
>>> Is Greece becoming a third world country? HIV, Malaria and TB rates soar as >>> health services are slashed by savage cuts
> We know that you are old, but, my man, I think that extreme right wing > (charitably) videos about the Greek civil war are rather irrelevant in this > discussion.
You aree wrong again,you didn't watch the same videos,who gives a fuck
about ELAS, amybe you
> Listen, if you want to start an anti-communist rant, why don't you start a > thread instead of trolling in all threads and posting these idiotic videos > time after time.
One look at the broken down Papariga is an indication of the xalia of KKE,scared not me,no KKE in Nassau NY.
> Just in case you have not heard, the civil war is over. Now, let's talk > turkey. How are going to begin these lashings that we were talking about?
> How are we going to find all these crypto-communists that lurk under our > beds? Your creativity there would be appreciated.
You must be the biggest fakin liar,did you watch all these documementarys,The Truman doctrine and the Marshall plan and Truman saying he will apoint American supervisors to supervize the economic aid. I wanted to show you that even back in 1948 corruption was as bad as it is now,same crap 60 years later, look here Skopian idiot, I don't care about the civil war,we(Dodecanese) didn't join Greece until March 6 1948,so the civil war didn't affect us.And you pretend to be a historian among other things.get real no wonder you don't get any respect around here.
> Projecting your own incompetence and lack of imagination onto Greece
> once again, eh?
> Wanker!
Perhaps ADR would be willing to help by contributing some of his pension/salary?
-- ADR on the current fiscal crisis : "There is no evidence
whatsoever that Greece spent irresponsibly and that it did not manage
its debt."
ADR on the open letter of Greek academics on the economy.
Pissaridis, Nobel Prize laureate is amongst them.
"This letter, signed mostly by persons with appointments and strong
connections to Greek academia has been extensively panned in the
forums of Greek academics wild inaccuracies, obvious distortions and
absolute lack of solutions."
"There is not chance in hell that the government will get
access to a persons' account that has moved the his/her
money quite legally to Switzerland or any other European
bank"
The naive ADR on Swiss accounts.
"Of course, they will be great Greek patriots who will fight on -and
eventually win-. In the meantime, I will stay with some proud people,
the Irish (since I have a great emotional connection with the place
and dear memories) "
ADR taking another emotional tantrum, takin g his marbles and going home.
"Palestinian rockets killed only a few rats in Israel"
Another "lesson" on current events from ADR
"I am always right, I am never wrong and you can't deal with it"
ADR and is God like infallibility
"When there are commentaries in the Wall Street Journal calling for the
replacement of this ridiculous government, you know we have reached
the end of the road"
ADR and the credence he places on ...magazines concerning the rise or fall of a govt.
"That's impossible. For the news of the fire to travel from Rome to
Actium and for the Nero to sail back to Rome it would take many more
days than the fire lasted. Nero would have arrived just to see
smoking ashes."
For ADR, Actium = Antium
Ti Lozanh, ti Kozanh.
"This totally laughable and it shows
that you are smoking something powerful.
Have you tried to install a
DSL line at home in Greece lately?"
ADR on broadband penetration in Greece.
"These radiation level are just within certain areas of the reactor.
Let's not overblow the whole thing. Provided that the plant is
finally secured and cleaned, this radiation level will decline quite
quickly (depending on the actual elements that provide the
radiation)."
ADR forgetting about the plutonium, offers his in depth
analysis of the nuclear reactor crisis in Japan.
"To think that Anastassios had anything to do with the manufacture of
medicines is a frightening thought.
A man of fathomless ignorance who uses it as knowledge to guide action
and is involved in pharmacy imparts to medication a sense of Russian
roulette that's worse than the fear of disease.
Be afraid.
A man for whom Actium is the same as Antium, inequalities are the same
as negative statements, thinks just as well that chloride is the same
as clorate and sulfide the same as sulfate. There never was a
sophist movement, ancient Greece and Rome had no lawyers, and science
is never concerned with proving negatives. Anything goes, folks.
A mind that dysfunctional in a relaxed history forum with not
deadlines or bosses must be even worse in the spheres of life with
strict obligations.
Bingo! Then one hears that such a man failed to meet his performance
goals at his work and got a bonus of exactly zero dollars last year.
And that shortly afterward his employer reconsidered Mr. Retzios'
business contribution in his 24 months of employment and felt he was
being robbed, and rightfully fired the goober's a.s.
How many times must that have happened to Anastassios,... and
counting?"
Someone pegging the fool ADR for who he really is.
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:17 -0300, Nashton <n...@na.ca> wrote:
>Perhaps ADR would be willing to help by contributing some of his >pension/salary?
Anything that's sent to Greece goes into a black hole these days. I
remember in the early days of the crisis, when the Greek government
asked Greeks abroad to invest in special Greek bonds, in order to help
the country. The fools that did so lost most of their money in the
"haircut" with little hope of getting back any of the rest.
One reason why Greeks are so reluctant to comply with taxes is the
record of gross mismanagement of government funds. It's a regime of
corruption and excess.
> It happens that ADR formulated :
> You must be the biggest fakin liar,
Hihihihi;-)
So you were not aware of this until now Nestor?!;-)
Lying for this sad fart and his ass licker is like a second nature.
> did you watch all these documementarys,The Truman doctrine and the > Marshall plan and Truman saying he will apoint American supervisors to > supervize the economic aid. I wanted to show you that even back in 1948 > corruption was as bad as it is now,same crap 60 years later,
Since 1821 we Greeks "created" a state as it suited our needs: a state where anyone could bypass laws and do whatever he wanted.
A state with "barbades sthn Korwnh", a state from which we all could suck its blood and then point the finger to "others".
It's sad to say (but the truth nevertheless) that we've made a state that represents us, PERIOD!
We all were comfortable with such state, we are all guilty for this.
> look here Skopian idiot,
Noooo, he just like Yousoufaki-Arnaki are the only "pure" greeks, coming directly from the testicles of Pericles;-)
We, the rest of the plebe, are just "Romanian Jews", "slavs", "turks" or whatever they want;-)
LOL
> I don't care about the civil war,we(Dodecanese) didn't join Greece until > March 6 1948,so the civil war didn't affect us.
WOW!
I didn't know that you are a Dodecanesean, my mother's sister is married in Rhodes with the former commanding officer of the Recruitment Bureau of Rhodes, Nikos Hristou!
> And you pretend to be a historian among other things.get real no wonder > you don't get any respect around here.
He is not a historian as he is not an economist.
He is just a total loser in his real life seeking "recognition" on internet.
Just like his ass licker.
Sad, little an8rwpakia...
As for respect...don't make me laugh;-)
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> ? "Nestor" <mega...@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ?????? > news:jk694l$gqg$1@news.albasani.net...
>> It happens that ADR formulated :
>> You must be the biggest fakin liar,
> Hihihihi;-)
> So you were not aware of this until now Nestor?!;-)
> Lying for this sad fart and his ass licker is like a second nature.
>> did you watch all these documementarys,The Truman doctrine and the Marshall >> plan and Truman saying he will apoint American supervisors to supervize the >> economic aid. I wanted to show you that even back in 1948 corruption was >> as bad as it is now,same crap 60 years later,
> Since 1821 we Greeks "created" a state as it suited our needs: a state where > anyone could bypass laws and do whatever he wanted.
> A state with "barbades sthn Korwnh", a state from which we all could suck its > blood and then point the finger to "others".
> It's sad to say (but the truth nevertheless) that we've made a state that > represents us, PERIOD!
> We all were comfortable with such state, we are all guilty for this.
All three documenatries deal more all less about corruption of the Greek elite during and after the civil war.If the prfessor watched them
he will see that nothing much has changed from 1948, and nobody went to jail-sounds familiar? Is that a scientific mind searching for the truth?
> Noooo, he just like Yousoufaki-Arnaki are the only "pure" greeks, coming > directly from the testicles of Pericles;-)
> We, the rest of the plebe, are just "Romanian Jews", "slavs", "turks" or > whatever they want;-)
> LOL
>> I don't care about the civil war,we(Dodecanese) didn't join Greece until >> March 6 1948,so the civil war didn't affect us.
> WOW!
> I didn't know that you are a Dodecanesean, my mother's sister is married in > Rhodes with the former commanding officer of the Recruitment Bureau of > Rhodes, Nikos Hristou!
>> And you pretend to be a historian among other things.get real no wonder you >> don't get any respect around here.
> He is not a historian as he is not an economist.
> He is just a total loser in his real life seeking "recognition" on internet.
> Just like his ass licker.
> Sad, little an8rwpakia...
> As for respect...don't make me laugh;-)
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:17 -0300, Nashton<n...@na.ca> wrote:
>> Perhaps ADR would be willing to help by contributing some of his
>> pension/salary?
> Anything that's sent to Greece goes into a black hole these days. I
> remember in the early days of the crisis, when the Greek government
> asked Greeks abroad to invest in special Greek bonds, in order to help
> the country. The fools that did so lost most of their money in the
> "haircut" with little hope of getting back any of the rest.
> One reason why Greeks are so reluctant to comply with taxes is the
> record of gross mismanagement of government funds. It's a regime of
> corruption and excess.
No kidding.
And what makes you think that Greeks will not work together to create a better, more competitive Greece? Your prejudicial views?
> On 03-19-12 8:45 AM, Alexander Arnakis wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:01:17 -0300, Nashton<n...@na.ca> wrote:
>>> Perhaps ADR would be willing to help by contributing some of his
>>> pension/salary?
>> Anything that's sent to Greece goes into a black hole these days. I
>> remember in the early days of the crisis, when the Greek government
>> asked Greeks abroad to invest in special Greek bonds, in order to help
>> the country. The fools that did so lost most of their money in the
>> "haircut" with little hope of getting back any of the rest.
>> One reason why Greeks are so reluctant to comply with taxes is the
>> record of gross mismanagement of government funds. It's a regime of
>> corruption and excess.
> No kidding.
> And what makes you think that Greeks will not work together to create a
> better, more competitive Greece? Your prejudicial views?
Because you get 3 political parties when you put 2 Greeks together!
-- choro
