A PORTRAIT OF A SOPHMORIC SOCIOLOGIST
Galja
the hellenic snicker wrote:
Ellhvas-SNK wrote:
>
> In article <3303B7...@gate.net> Josif Grezlovski <Joe...@gate.net> writes:
> Tough-guy Josif,
>
> I am here, in L.A.. My address is available at the UCLA URL. Do a search under
> my name in the directory. When you're in L.A., give me a call, name the time
> and place, and come 'walk the walk' now that you've talked the talk.
In Josif's post you can clearly see the difference between what he
wishes he could conscionably do in his mind, and his peaceful nature.
However , your words show a readiness to "get physical"
Before
> you do, send a couple of e-mails to other Sociology grad students, and ask
> them about me, and your chances of doing all those mucho things you claim you
> would do to me in real life. Furthermore, if you do decide to 'walk the walk'
> I suggest you make sure your insurance covers injuries from brawls.
why get physical, why "brawl"? WAlk the walk is an expression for the
60s - you know that guy with the bitg feet out in front of him, the cute
thing. WHat you are suggesting is different.
I can
> assure you you are going to need MAJOR coverage, as your hospital bills will
> be large.
You are suggesting actually HURTING our dear Josif.....
>
> Come on, I have never hidden nor run away from such a challenge.
You are the one challenging, not Josif
Go on, big
> man, come on down and show me your stuff. You can send representatives too, if
> you wish. I'll be waiting. Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
> <snip>
Translate please
>
> > As one can see, I was just a bit perturbed with this kind of
> >filth. What line of action
> >should I take and what are the most suitable alternatives?
Here Josif suggests what he thinks in his mind
> > A) If these exchange of "rubbish" has taken place somewhere
> >else, not behind the safety of the computer
>
> Safety for whom? You? I dare you, I invite you to come on down and show me
> your 'stuff' in real time-space. Come on!
Here you discuss something a bit more realistic
>
> >, the following would have taken place: I would have whooped the
> >ass of this boy to a pulp. I would have broken every f....n bone in his
> >miserable body.
>
> You and which army would have done all that? It's nice to dream, Josif, but
> reality will teach you differently. COME ON. DO IT! I DARE YOU!
>
> >And
> >then, I would have spat some beechnut tobacco at his ugly and disfigured
> >face. This option
> >is not feasible.
Note, he is saying that his thoughts and feelings are not constituant
reality
>
> Why not? Are you that much of a coward, or that cheep.
Here you provoke
Should I chip in for
> your ticket down from frozen Montreal, or wherever in Canada you happen to
> reside? For the return ticket, well, that will have to wait, eh?
Here you attempt to instill fear
>
> > B) To forget and pretend it does not affect me, it would
> >be a lie.
>
> > C) To explore other "prudent" alternatives is remotely possible,
> >but may not be worth the trouble.
Here is the musing in possible reference to legal action
> > D) So, what is left at my disposal at this, present time:
> > Read the following:
>
> > Line 4: If I were a "little fart" I will be just like you,
> >schizophrenic invertebrate.
He responds intellectually at the same level as YOUR USUAL invective
> > Line 11: If I were a "little prick" I would not be sporting my
> >big coconuts, on 6'2"
> >and 190 lb.., you schizophrenic invertebrate.
and again
>
> So you have big coconuts, eh? Really? And you're 6'2 190lbs. NO SHIT!!! Now, I
> am scared. I told you, send a couple of UCLA Soc grad students e-mails and ask
> them to describe me to you, and to tell them about my 'temper' and what I
> usually do when challenged physically.
Can one imagine being any of the following and a student of Stavros?:
a. a woman
b. a Macedonian if he is aware of it
c. small boned but possessing a mind.
d. all of the above
Go on. If you think that 6'2'' 190lbs
> is impressive to me, you will meet with a bigger surprise than I had hoped for
> if you ever come down to 'walk the walk'.
Threat upon no implied threat. Now, Stavros, consider this guy has
stated within his post that these feelings he has are things of the mind
wheras you suggest real threat. Your intepretation of his colloquial
expressions makes one wonder at your general ability to analyze people,
something that sociology is noted for?
>
> Dhmhtrh Zaniko, tov akous tov geloio? O xtikiaphs, mas to naizeis kai
> tsamnoukas!
>
> BTW, invertebrates do not have either brains or personalities to be
> schizophrenic. But you show again your advanced degree of education . . .
Typical Stavros as an "educated" and credentialled professional
quotation here. Gives a whole new meaning to the concept educated,
doesn't it?
>
> > Line 15/16: "If I were ignoramus" I would know better then to
> >claim that
> >"Macedonia was refered to as part of unreedemed lands of Hellenism". You
> >"moron", how
> >can you redeem something that you have never owned before, you
> >schizophrenic poor
> >excuse of a man invertebrate.
>
> Hellenism and Hellas, as a country, a sovereing nation-state, are not the
> same, smart guy!
Hey, you are part of the neo-hellenic movement during its golden hours
of inception and definition and redefinition, not Josif. Josif is a
Macedonian. Why should he be expected to do a minute by minute analysis
of these apparently fluid terms?
>
> If you don't think Greece rightfully 'owns' its Macedonian territory, COME AND
> GET IT. Oh I forgot, you're all talk. Another 'fighter' in his dreams.
> <snip>
>
Molon Lave?
> >[I sincerely apologize to all peace loving and respectful netters for my
> >language above.]
> > For him I leave my signature:
>
> > Big Dick McGee
>
Hee hee. Now this, Stavros is a Macedonian esxpression, not something
that you would be aware of. SO don't attempt to interpret cultural
matters of which you have no knowledge. Maybe if Josif does not attempt
a definition of Hellene and Hellenism and you do not attempt a
definition of....?
> Do you really have a big dick? Do tell! You're SUCH a BIIIIG man. Please, now
> come on down and show me how you were going to deal with me, IN PERSON. When
> the shit hits the fan, the size of your penis will not matter that much. Oh
> well, maybe it will. Cause you'll be choking on it!
This is a pretty disgusting thing to be putting in this netgroup. The
childview filters are probably working overtime. What would you say
upon your own children reading such a thing? "Oh, Daddy was just
explaining to the nice man that he would like to see an intimate body
part inserted into that friend's throat."
I can imagine the response "By whom, Daddy?"
And your reply would be? Something like "Daddy will do what he usually
does when challenged physically"?
>
>
> >--
> >°MFNÿ
>
MAKE PEACE GENTLY
JOIN WRISTS IN THE DANCE -
FIRST ONE WILL MOVE
THEN ANOTHER FEEL THE RHYTHM,
BENDING TO A COMMON DRUM,
BOWING TO THE SAME PIPES,
FORMING, FIRST HESITANTLY, THEN ,
AFTER LEARNING THE STEPS,
DANCING AWAY REGRETS THAT REPEL
TO FORM A CIRCLE - FIRST PAIN,
THEN JOY, A HOPEFUL,
EVERLASTING REFRAIN OF JOY
IN A CIRCLE UNBROKEN,
HAND TO HAND TOGETHER,
TO LEARN THE NEXT AND NEXT KOLO,
HEAR THE NEXT BAZOUKI.
FEEL THE NEXT GAIDA THROUGH CLEAR LUNGS
SEE THE BODIES MOTION
TO TOUCH PEACE GENTLY
TO A TAPAN PULSE
>
> Stavros N. Karageorgis
> E-mail: kara...@ucla.edu
GALINA
Ellhvas-SNK
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>the hellenic snicker wrote:
>Ellhvas-SNK wrote:
>>
>> In article <3303B7...@gate.net> Josif Grezlovski <Joe...@gate.net>
>writes:
>> Tough-guy Josif,
>>
>> I am here, in L.A.. My address is available at the UCLA URL. Do a search under
>> my name in the directory. When you're in L.A., give me a call, name the time
>> and place, and come 'walk the walk' now that you've talked the talk.
>In Josif's post you can clearly see the difference between what he
>wishes he could conscionably do in his mind, and his peaceful nature.
>However , your words show a readiness to "get physical"
Judge for yourselves:
Josif Grezlovski wrote:
As one can see, I was just a bit perturbed with this kind of
filth. What line of action should I take and what are the most suitable
^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ******* ******** *****
alternatives?
A) If these exchange of "rubbish" has taken place somewhere else, not
behind thesafety of the computer, the following would have taken place:
*******************************************************************************
I would have whooped the ass of this boy to a pulp.
***********************************************************
I would have broken every f....n bone in his miserable body.
*********************************************************************
And then, I would have spat some beechnut tobacco at his ugly and disfigured
*******************************************************************************
face.
******
This option is not feasible.
******************************
<snip>
>why get physical, why "brawl"? WAlk the walk is an expression for the
>60s - you know that guy with the bitg feet out in front of him, the cute
>thing. WHat you are suggesting is different.
What HE was suggesting he WOULD (not was fantasizing about) do to me, if the
exchange had taken place in real space-time is reproduced above.
>> I can
>> assure you you are going to need MAJOR coverage, as your hospital bills will
>> be large.
>You are suggesting actually HURTING our dear Josif.....
If he were to try to put into reality OPTION A, in which HE says he WOULD do
all kinds of macho bodily harm, injury, and insult to me if he were in front
of me physically after our exchange . . . Your 'dear Josif' said that he WOULD
do all these 'actual hurting' to me if he were to meet me in real life. He
also 'bragged' about his supposedly impressive physique, and his allegedly
prodigious genitalia. And he is 'your dear Josif' and you are defending him
here, and accusing ME of threatening HIM. Ok, typical Galina!
>> Come on, I have never hidden nor run away from such a challenge.
>You are the one challenging, not Josif
Really? It's all on file, Galina, the written word STAYS, and I reproduced
what he threatened he would to me physically if he were face to face with me.
Who's challenging whom? You can fool some people all the time, you can fool
all people some of the time, but you positively cannot fool all people all of
the time, Galina.
>Go on, big
>> man, come on down and show me your stuff. You can send representatives too, if
>> you wish. I'll be waiting. Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
>> <snip>
>Translate please
Here's Rhodes, here leap! (look it up!)
>> > As one can see, I was just a bit perturbed with this kind of
>> >filth. What line of action should I take and what are the most
>> >suitable alternatives?
>Here Josif suggests what he thinks in his mind
Oh really? As opposed to what he thinks OUT of his mind? Have you ever
heard of 'forming of intent'?
>> > A) If these exchange of "rubbish" has taken place somewhere
>> >else, not behind the safety of the computer
>>
>> Safety for whom? You? I dare you, I invite you to come on down and show me
>> your 'stuff' in real time-space. Come on!
>Here you discuss something a bit more realistic
Oh, I see. It is ***I*** who is suggesting something realistic, and not Josif.
So, you're basically saying that Josif was simply fantasizing, and making his
fantasies, fantasies of causing severe bodily harm on me if he were to meet me
in real life, PUBLIC for the entire USENET audience, right?
>
>> >, the following would have taken place: I would have whooped the
>> >ass of this boy to a pulp. I would have broken every f....n bone in his
>> >miserable body.
What, no clever little riposte here, Galina? A little too raw, and
inconsistent with your 'theory', for your consideration?
>> You and which army would have done all that? It's nice to dream, Josif, but
>> reality will teach you differently. COME ON. DO IT! I DARE YOU!
I am asking him to fulfill his 'fantasies' of trying to inflict all the bodily
harm that he claims he WOULD inflict upon me, if he were to meet me in real
life. And you're claiming that ***I*** am at fault! And, you're claiming that
***I*** am sophOmoric?
>> >And
>> >then, I would have spat some beechnut tobacco at his ugly and disfigured
>> >face. This option
>> >is not feasible.
>Note, he is saying that his thoughts and feelings are not constituant
>reality
Of course not. Neither are mine. When he decides to try to 'constitute
reality', I will be there to 'constitute MY reality'.
>> Why not? Are you that much of a coward, or that cheep.
>Here you provoke
Oh really? Yes, I provoke a man who said that he would do all those 'nasty'
things to me if our exchange had not taken place in cyber-space, but in real
life. And by your 'logic', you should be 'reprimanding' and 'chastizing' ME,
instead of him. You should write a book about how to raise one's children. I
am sure it will be a great hit!
> Should I chip in for
>> your ticket down from frozen Montreal, or wherever in Canada you happen to
>> reside? For the return ticket, well, that will have to wait, eh?
>Here you attempt to instill fear
This is becoming ridiculous! You claim that it is ***I*** who is attempting to
instill fear in a man who had just publically stated that he WOULD inflict all
kinds of bodily harm to me if he were to meet me in real life??? In what
universe does this make sense?
>>
>> > B) To forget and pretend it does not affect me, it would
>> >be a lie.
>>
>> > C) To explore other "prudent" alternatives is remotely possible,
>> >but may not be worth the trouble.
>Here is the musing in possible reference to legal action
What legal action? For what?
>> > D) So, what is left at my disposal at this, present time:
>> > Read the following:
>>
>> > Line 4: If I were a "little fart" I will be just like you,
>> >schizophrenic invertebrate.
>He responds intellectually at the same level as YOUR USUAL invective
You call this 'intellectually'? Shows your intellect, doesn't it?
>> > Line 11: If I were a "little prick" I would not be sporting my
>> >big coconuts, on 6'2"
>> >and 190 lb.., you schizophrenic invertebrate.
What's this? 'Intellectual response'? Is this not a prime example of
sophomoric bragadoccio? Why the reference to his 'sporting' 'big coconuts on
6'2'' and 190lb."? Is he simply describing his testes and his height and
weight for our edification? Is he simply 'sharing his thoughts' and 'vital
statistics' in 'colorful language'?
>and again
>>
>> So you have big coconuts, eh? Really? And you're 6'2 190lbs. NO SHIT!!! Now, I
>> am scared. I told you, send a couple of UCLA Soc grad students e-mails and ask
>> them to describe me to you, and to tell them about my 'temper' and what I
>> usually do when challenged physically.
>Can one imagine being any of the following and a student of Stavros?:
>a. a woman
Don't hurl accusations. Contact the UCLA Senate Committee on Teaching which
awarded me the 1996-97 Luckman Distinguished Teaching Assistant Award, and
consult UCLA's policies on sexual harassment. You are despicable. To defend a
young man who has foolishly threatened to inflict serious bodily harm on me if
he were to meet me in real life in PUBLIC, you are insinuating that I am a
'harasser'? This may work in Washington D.C., Galina, and in the dirty
campaings of politicians, but not in the real world.
>b. a Macedonian if he is aware of it
>c. small boned but possessing a mind.
>d. all of the above
Which one of the above would behave like your 'dear Josif'? Are you suggesting
that his post was an indication that he is 'small boned but possessing a
mind'? If we take him at his word, he is a man, a self-aware ethno-national
Macedonian, big-boned, tall, 'generously endowed with male testes', who WOULD
(allegedly): "have whooped the ass of this boy [this would be me, Stavros] to
a pulp", break every 'f...n' bone in my body, and spit 'beechnut tobacco in
[my] ugly and disfigured face' . So stop 'wondering' and insinuating, and deal
with the reality of Josif's character.
>Go on. If you think that 6'2'' 190lbs
>> is impressive to me, you will meet with a bigger surprise than I had hoped for
>> if you ever come down to 'walk the walk'.
>Threat upon no implied threat. Now, Stavros, consider this guy has
>stated within his post that these feelings he has are things of the mind
>wheras you suggest real threat. Your intepretation of his colloquial
>expressions makes one wonder at your general ability to analyze people,
>something that sociology is noted for?
Oh, I get it, ***I*** am deficient in my 'general ability to analyze people,
something that sociology is noted for' . . . Oh yes, a highly plausible
interpretation. You find no 'implied threat' in what HE wrote, but you find it
in MY response . . . Suddenly, all of his C:LEAR threats are 'colloquial
expressions' whereas my response is 'threat'. As for what sociology and
sociologists are noted for, you are certainly not a reliable source.
>> Dhmhtrh Zaniko, tov akous tov geloio? O xtikiaphs, mas to naizeis kai
>> tsamnoukas!
>>
>> BTW, invertebrates do not have either brains or personalities to be
>> schizophrenic. But you show again your advanced degree of education . . .
>Typical Stavros as an "educated" and credentialled professional
>quotation here. Gives a whole new meaning to the concept educated,
>doesn't it?
Take it or leave it. 'Sour grapes' Galina? Unfufilled dreams of actually being
an academic? Could never quite cut it in the academy, and have developed a
chip on your shoulders?
>> > Line 15/16: "If I were ignoramus" I would know better then to
>> >claim that
>> >"Macedonia was refered to as part of unreedemed lands of Hellenism". You
>> >"moron", how
>> >can you redeem something that you have never owned before, you
>> >schizophrenic poor
>> >excuse of a man invertebrate.
>>
>> Hellenism and Hellas, as a country, a sovereing nation-state, are not the
>> same, smart guy!
>Hey, you are part of the neo-hellenic movement during its golden hours
>of inception and definition and redefinition, not Josif. Josif is a
>Macedonian. Why should he be expected to do a minute by minute analysis
>of these apparently fluid terms?
Huh? Do you realize how insulting this is to Josif?
>> If you don't think Greece rightfully 'owns' its Macedonian territory, COME AND
>> GET IT. Oh I forgot, you're all talk. Another 'fighter' in his dreams.
>> <snip>
>Molon Lave?
Precisely! Any more questions?
>> >[I sincerely apologize to all peace loving and respectful netters for my
>> >language above.]
>> > For him I leave my signature:
>>
>> > Big Dick McGee
>>
>Hee hee. Now this, Stavros is a Macedonian esxpression, not something
>that you would be aware of.
'Big Dick McGee' is a 'Macedonian expression'? Come again? Where was this
'Macedonian expression' first hatched? In Skopje? In 'Lerin'? In 'Kostur' or
was it in 'Solun'? How many 'McGee' are there among ethno-national or even
regional Macedonians? Everybody in the English speaking word knows what kind
of expression this is. Ask around.
> SO don't attempt to interpret cultural
>matters of which you have no knowledge.
You are truly comical, Galina.
>Maybe if Josif does not attempt
>a definition of Hellene and Hellenism and you do not attempt a
>definition of....?
Of what? 'Big Dick McGee'? Heck, let's ask Sasho Kaladjevski, Goce Naumovski,
or even Slavko Mangovski whether 'Big Dick McGee' is a uniquely 'Macedonian
expression', and whether one would require 'being Macedonian' to interpret it
properly.
>> Do you really have a big dick? Do tell! You're SUCH a BIIIIG man. Please, now
>> come on down and show me how you were going to deal with me, IN PERSON. When
>> the shit hits the fan, the size of your penis will not matter that much. Oh
>> well, maybe it will. Cause you'll be choking on it!
>This is a pretty disgusting thing to be putting in this netgroup. The
>childview filters are probably working overtime.
Oh yes, it's all ***MY*** fault. I am the one corrupting youth. I guess the
description of what Josif would do to me and my body if he were to meet me in
real life, and his reference to his 'large coconuts' and to himself as 'Big
Dick McGee' are 'innocent', 'colloquial expressions', 'intellectual responses'
. . .
> What would you say
>upon your own children reading such a thing? "Oh, Daddy was just
>explaining to the nice man that he would like to see an intimate body
>part inserted into that friend's throat."
An intimate body part? Who mentioned that intimate body part first? And why
did he mention it?
>I can imagine the response "By whom, Daddy?"
>And your reply would be? Something like "Daddy will do what he usually
>does when challenged physically"?
Have you no shame, Galina? Answer: NO!. And you have the audacity to pretend
to be a devout Orthodox Christian, and to quote hymns, and to take the 'Lord's
name in vain'. I guess the Christian thing to do is to 'love' you (in the
Christian sense) anyway, for you were also created 'in the image and likeness'
of God. You certainly make being virtuous extremely hard. Maybe God is testing
all of us with you.
>> >--
>> >°MFN˙
>MAKE PEACE GENTLY
>JOIN WRISTS IN THE DANCE -
>FIRST ONE WILL MOVE
>THEN ANOTHER FEEL THE RHYTHM,
>BENDING TO A COMMON DRUM,
>BOWING TO THE SAME PIPES,
>FORMING, FIRST HESITANTLY, THEN ,
>AFTER LEARNING THE STEPS,
>DANCING AWAY REGRETS THAT REPEL
>TO FORM A CIRCLE - FIRST PAIN,
>THEN JOY, A HOPEFUL,
>EVERLASTING REFRAIN OF JOY
>IN A CIRCLE UNBROKEN,
>HAND TO HAND TOGETHER,
>TO LEARN THE NEXT AND NEXT KOLO,
>HEAR THE NEXT BAZOUKI.
>FEEL THE NEXT GAIDA THROUGH CLEAR LUNGS
>SEE THE BODIES MOTION
>TO TOUCH PEACE GENTLY
>TO A TAPAN PULSE
Skip the 'songs' and the humns and start being a human being for a change.
>
>>
>> Stavros N. Karageorgis
>> E-mail: kara...@ucla.edu
>GALINA
[50] tosouton d' apoleloipen hę polis hęmôn peri to phronein
kai legein tous allous anthrôpous, hôsth' hoi tautęs mathętai
tôn allôn didaskaloi gegonasi, kai to tôn Hellęnôn onoma
pepoięke męketi tou genous alla tęs dianoias dokein einai,
kai mallon Hellęnas kaleisthai tous tęs paideuseôs tęs
hęmeteras ę tous tęs koinęs phuseôs metechontas.
Isocrates, "Panegyricus"
Galja
Here is my analysis of the excerpts you have put here:
1. Statement about Mr. Snicker's inappropriate behavior.
2. A bunch of limited and clearly identified "if" statements with the
qualifying clauses "not behind the SAFETY of a computer" and regarding
irreality: "This option is not feasible".
3. A bunch of imagining by Josif.
4. Me having fun with the above.
5. Your suggestions ot take the macho contest into the realm of reality
with specific recomendations on how this might be accomplished, i.e.
made "feasible".
6
> Josif Grezlovski wrote:
>
> As one can see, I was just a bit perturbed with this kind of
> filth. What line of action should I take and what are the most suitable
> ^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ******* ******** *****
> alternatives?
>
> A) If these exchange of "rubbish" has taken place somewhere else, not
> behind thesafety of the computer, the following would have taken place:
> *******************************************************************************
> I would have whooped the ass of this boy to a pulp.
> ***********************************************************
>
> I would have broken every f....n bone in his miserable body.
> *********************************************************************
>
> And then, I would have spat some beechnut tobacco at his ugly and disfigured
> *******************************************************************************
> face.
> ******
>
> This option is not feasible.
> ******************************
>
> <snip>
>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Now, as to the remainder of the post, below:
1. Yes, Josif is "dear". I am sure some of your netpals regard you the
same way.
2. I am "typical"? Thanks.
3. re: Rhodes - hee hee
4. Josif suggests he as "perturbed" by your "filth". He was not alone
in this feeling. He had no formation of intent. Your posting suggests
that you may have, however.
5. You NOW state you intend no infliction of real harm. Good.
6. I have a book offer on raising and homeschooling children. I'll
finish it one of these days.
7. legal action - He has a federal case, should he wish to pursue it.
8. I suggested what was the relative intellectual level aspired to and
achieved.
9. Vital statistics - I am 5'9", 145 lbs., no testes.
10. D.C. RULZ
11. I have no desire to pursue academe as I prefer the world outside
the same.
12. Greek and Macedonian expressions - ROLF. Comedy was intended, of
course.
13. Relative intellectualism of this netthread - ROLF.
14. re: intimate body part - It was you who suggested doing something
in particular with it.
15. I have never claimed to be "devout". THe rest applies.
16. WHo know the will of God?
17. The poem came to me as an image of Macedonians and Greeks dancing
together, learning harmony through that dance, something like an HOmeric
freize in my mind. Sorry you didn't like it.
18. The entire post I put was an obviously failed attempt to show what
may have been regarded as an actual threatening verbal exchange by some
readers as something less than that, given some knowledge of the
potential participants. It should also be an indication of my dislike
of violence in virtual reality.
> >> >°MFNÿ
>
> >MAKE PEACE GENTLY
> >JOIN WRISTS IN THE DANCE -
> >FIRST ONE WILL MOVE
> >THEN ANOTHER WILL FEEL THE RHYTHM,
> >BENDING TO A COMMON DRUM,
> >BOWING TO THE SAME PIPES,
> >FORMING, FIRST HESITANTLY, THEN ,
> >AFTER LEARNING THE STEPS,
> >DANCING AWAY REGRETS THAT REPEL
> >A CIRCLE - WITH FIRST PAIN,
> >THEN JOY, A HOPEFUL,
> >EVERLASTING REFRAIN OF JOY
> >IN THAT CIRCLE UNBROKEN,
> >HAND TO HAND TOGETHER,
> >TO LEARN THE NEXT AND NEXT KOLO,
> >HEAR THE NEXT BAZOUKI.
> >BREATHE THE NEXT GAIDA THROUGH CLEAR LUNGS
> >SEE THE BODIES MOTION
> >TO TOUCH PEACE GENTLY
> >TO A TAPAN PULSE
>
> Skip the 'songs' and the humns and start being a human being for a change.
>
> >
Self analysis:
I JUST ALTERED A WORD OR TWO. I MAY ALTER IT AGAIN - A COUPLE OF THE
WORDS DON'T EXPRESS THAT IMAGE OF DANCES FEELING EACH OTHERS' PULSES AT
THE WRIST THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN THE SAME DANCES WITH THE RHYTHMS AND
SOUNDS AFFECTING THE JOINING INTO COMMON WILL.
> >>
> >> Stavros N. Karageorgis
> >> E-mail: kara...@ucla.edu
>
> >GALINA
>
> Stavros N. Karageorgis
> E-mail: kara...@ucla.edu
Galina again