Proving God exists....
caesarjbsquitti
There are two logical ways, perhaps more to prove God exists....
1. If God exists, prophesy exists, for God exists outside of Time and
Space and can through his prophets prophesize...do you know of any
prophecies that did come true, or will come true...?
2. If God exists, then the Bible is true... one odd story , of Adam
and Eve tells of the existence of the devil....that deceived the world,
Adam and Eve...is this true....? Or is this merely co-incidence ?
Well, half-truths, truths that lie can prove that this deception is
indeed true...take a look for yourself....you have not heard of truths
that lie have you...? We have been deceived by an original 'sin' of
programming that has remained with us since then....Or is this merely
co-incidence.
There is co-incidence and then there grand co-incidence, where 'things'
happen that are far too complex for random co-incidence....
Proving that God exists.................
http://www.abeautifuldifference.com/gate.html
Now that proving God exists...what do we do next...seems like we don't
actually believe in his power.....for we act as God...destroying life
we have not created...
Caesar J. B. Squitti
Beautiful Thunder Bay, Ontario
www.thunderbayonline.com
Agamemnon
"caesarjbsquitti" <ord...@squittis.com> wrote in message
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> Proving God exists....
>
> There are two logical ways, perhaps more to prove God exists....
Um.... Which God ?
>
> 1. If God exists, prophesy exists, for God exists outside of Time and
> Space and can through his prophets prophesize...do you know of any
Not according to Parmenides.
> prophecies that did come true, or will come true...?
>
> 2. If God exists, then the Bible is true... one odd story , of Adam
Er... If Apollo exist then how can the bible be true. If Hera exists how can
the bible be true ?
> and Eve tells of the existence of the devil....that deceived the world,
> Adam and Eve...is this true....? Or is this merely co-incidence ?
>
> Well, half-truths, truths that lie can prove that this deception is
> indeed true...take a look for yourself....you have not heard of truths
> that lie have you...? We have been deceived by an original 'sin' of
> programming that has remained with us since then....Or is this merely
> co-incidence.
POPPYCOCK .The Orthodox Church does not believe in original sin.
Mhtsos
> Proving God exists....
>
> There are two logical ways, perhaps more to prove God exists....
Who god and where?
>
> 1. If God exists, prophesy exists,
Lotto winners must be people of god then
> for God exists outside of Time and
> Space
Had a look outside but could see neither time nor space or god.
It was to dark
> and can through his prophets prophesize...do you know of any
> prophecies that did come true, or will come true...?
Tomorrow the weather is either changing or stays the same.
>
> 2. If God exists, then the Bible is true...
The bible exists and all the books I have in my shelf too and this the
truth.
> one odd story , of Adam
I know Adam. He is going to school now.
> and Eve
Eve got some weight lately
> tells of the existence of the devil
De vil who?
....that deceived the world,
What comic book are you talking about?
> Adam and Eve...is this true....? Or is this merely co-incidence ?
>
> Well, half-truths, truths that lie can prove that this deception is
> indeed true...take a look for yourself....you have not heard of truths
> that lie have you...?
I have have known truths that stand and others that jump.
> We have been deceived by an original 'sin'
Ratio of the opposite side to the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle
> of
> programming that has remained with us since then....Or is this merely
> co-incidence.
>
> There is co-incidence and then there grand co-incidence, where 'things'
> happen that are far too complex for random co-incidence....
I know what a lively fantasy can do to your brain.
>
> Proving that God exists.................
> http://www.abeautifuldifference.com/gate.html
or not http://www.evilbible.com
>
> Now that proving God exists...what do we do next...seems like we don't
> actually believe in his power.....for we act as God...destroying life
> we have not created...
Girlfriend got pregnant by some other guy and then you forced her to
make an abortion?
Nashty
> "caesarjbsquitti" <ord...@squittis.com> wrote in message
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>
>>Proving God exists....
>>
>>There are two logical ways, perhaps more to prove God exists....
>
>
> Um.... Which God ?
>
>
>>1. If God exists, prophesy exists, for God exists outside of Time and
>>Space and can through his prophets prophesize...do you know of any
>
>
> Not according to Parmenides.
>
>
>>prophecies that did come true, or will come true...?
>>
>>2. If God exists, then the Bible is true... one odd story , of Adam
>
>
> Er... If Apollo exist then how can the bible be true. If Hera exists how can
> the bible be true ?
>
>
>>and Eve tells of the existence of the devil....that deceived the world,
>>Adam and Eve...is this true....? Or is this merely co-incidence ?
>>
>>Well, half-truths, truths that lie can prove that this deception is
>>indeed true...take a look for yourself....you have not heard of truths
>>that lie have you...? We have been deceived by an original 'sin' of
>>programming that has remained with us since then....Or is this merely
>>co-incidence.
>
>
> POPPYCOCK .The Orthodox Church does not believe in original sin.
Original sin is the substrate, the raison d'etre of Christianity.
Can you please cease and desist from making a complete a## of yourself
by spreading such lies and BS?
Original sin is *central* in Orthodoxy.
Nicolas
Agamemnon
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GET AN EDUCATION YOU IDIOT.
You are NOT Orthodox so DON'T pontificate to people who are about original
sin which is NOT and NEVER has been part of Orthodoxy. You have been living
with Romans Catholics for far to long.
Orthodox Christians believe that you are born FREE OF SIN. Stop trying to
mislead people and convert them to Roman Catholicism.
Mhtsos
understandings of "original sin?" Do we Orthodox Christians even
believe in "original sin?" (Nov. '01)
In the 6th Decree of the Synod of Jerusalem (AD 1692) the Patriarchs of
the Orthodox Church affirm that "We believe the first man created by God
(Adam) to have fallen in Paradise, when, disregarding the Divine
Commandment, he yielded to the deceitful counsel of the serpent (Satan).
And hence hereditary sin flowed to his posterity; so that none is born
after the flesh who beareth not this burden, and experienceth not the
fruits thereof in this present world. But by these fruits and this
burden we do not understand (actual) sin, such as impiety, blasphemy,
murder, sodomy, adultery, fornication, enmity, and whatsoever else is by
our depraved choice committed contrarily to the Divine Will, not from
nature; for many both of the Forefathers and of the Prophets, and vast
numbers of others, as well as those under the shadow (of the Law), as
under the truth (the Gospel), such as the divine Forerunner, and
especially the Mother of God the Word, the ever-virgin Mary, experienced
not these, or such like faults; but only what the Divine Justice
inflicted upon man as punishment for the (original) transgression, such
as sweats in labor, afflictions, bodily sicknesses, pains in
childbearing, and while on our (earthly) pilgrimage to live a laborious
life, and lastly, bodily death." What does all of this mean? Since Adam
alone committed the "original sin" (or, more properly, the "ancestral
sin"), he alone bears the guilt for that sin. However, the consequences
of that first sin -- e.g., sickness, pain, death -- and most especially
the allpowerful propensity to sin, is inherited by all of his
descendants. Roman Catholics, on the other hand, believe that we are all
born sinners, guilty of Adam's sin from our very conception in the womb.
http://www.antiochian.org/1311
Agamemnon
Further Q&A on the Orthodox Faith
Fr. John Matusiak
Concerning the original -- or "first" -- sin, that commited by Adam and Eve,
Orthodoxy believes that, while everyone bears the consequences of the first
sin, the foremost of which is death, only Adam and Eve are guilty of that
sin. Roman Catholicism teaches that everyone bears not only the consequence,
but also the guilt, of that sin. In the article by Fr. Azkoul, he deals with
this quite clearly in the sections above the quote which you sent in your
email. There is nothing wrong with his statement.
Concerning the second passage -- from the Toronto Metropolis' web site -- it
would probably have been clearer to the reader had the sentence read as
follows: "Worst of all, the consequences of the original sin are hereditary.
It did not remain only Adam and Eve's." I am not sure that there is any
conflict whatsoever; rather, the second passage needs to be clarified.
Finally, the "Orthodox canons" are not statements of doctrine; rather, they
are the "canon laws" drafted by the early Church councils. Canons deal with
Church discipline and order, not with doctrine. They are found in the
proceedings of the seven ecumenical councils and the local councils of the
early Church. If by asking "if the Orthodox canons are published and
available for purchase" you refer to Canon Law, please let me know, and I
will direct you to places where you can purchase them. If you are interested
in doctrinal material, however, collections of canons would not contain the
fundamental teachings of the faith.
http://www.oca.org/pages/orth_chri/Q-and-A_OLD/Original-Sin.html
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Mr. Metaxa
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Good arguments on both sides.
Many of the prophecies in The Holy Bible have yet to come to
fruition.
Have we not read the Book of Revelation?
I luv this thread.
Mr. Metaxa
Agamemnon
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POPPYCOCK
> Have we not read the Book of Revelation?
That already happened 2500 years ago. Its all about Cyrus conquest of
Babylon.
joetu...@yahoo.com
EDEN.The fruit of knowledge was not a smart remody but Eve thought so.
You best hope there is a GOD because the demons make an awful hissssss!
Agamemnon
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> Ahhh Buttt who won the Oscar for playing the Snake in this GARDEN of
> EDEN.The fruit of knowledge was not a smart remody but Eve thought so.
> You best hope there is a GOD because the demons make an awful hissssss!
>
There are no such thing as demons except in Hollywood movies. Are you a
Satanist by chance.
joetu...@yahoo.com
What areyou saying grasshopper? You cant have Waun without the other!
You have been brain-washed be civilization .The Jason Blair twist lives
on & on.Since the beginning Man has added to and exagerated facts to
make them more palletable. 90% of what is written now a days is pure
hog wash. Yet taught in schools to be sacred. I for instance dont
believe in Gays being afflicked with a desease! . Going way back to the
Park where the Kiss of death was all started. Some body slipped the
wholly boy the tongue! Todays gays love to do the parks!
I went to the Doctor once with a bloody asshole the doc said it was
a fisher! Does this mean to be a fisher of men ,you are afflicked??
joetu...@yahoo.com
What areyou saying grasshopper? You cant have Waun without the other!
You have been brain-washed be civilization .The Jason Blair twist lives
on & on.Since the beginning Man has added to and exagerated facts to
make them more palletable. 90% of what is written now a days is pure
hog wash. Yet taught in schools to be sacred. I for instance dont
believe in Gays being afflicked with a desease,instead being demon
possesed! . Going way back to the
Park where the Kiss of Death was all started. Some body slipped the
wholly boy the tongue! Todays gays love to do the parks!
I went to the Doctor once with a bloody asshole the doc said it was
a fisher! Does this mean to be a fisher of men ,you have an
affliction??
joetu...@yahoo.com
affliction or that you have a possesion of 9/10of the law??
joetu...@yahoo.com
You have been brain-washed by Humanism .The Jason Blair twist lives on
Maverick
You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
honest with yourself.
And, once you prove it to yourself, you can read the Bible and it will all
make sense to you.
Here is what you do. First, make up your mind that you will be honest in
your search. The only person you will be fooling if you are dishonest is
yourself. Second, if you want to hold yourself out as a non-believer, that's
fine. You needn't tell anyone that you have proven to yourself that God does
exist.
Once you have made those committments, simply do this. Think back over your
life and see if you can remember a time when you had an original thought or
idea. Be honest now. Where did that thought or idea come from? Many will say
that it came from something they heard maybe subconsciously, or had heard
and forgotten or some other spin to validate their preconceived notion to
deny Gods existance. But, if they are honest, they will continue to ask the
question "where did that idea come from" until they have rationalized it
back to the beginning of time. After all it had to start somewhere. And when
you get there, that's God.
--
"When a strict interpretation of the Constitution,
according to the fixed rules which govern the
interpretation of laws, is abandoned, and the
theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to
control its meaning, we have no longer a Con-
stitution; we are under the government of individ-
ual men, who for the time being have power to
declare what the Constitution is according to
their own views of what it ought to mean"
Supreme Court Justice Benjamin R. Curtis
Maverick
http://www.independent.org/
Agamemnon
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> It is very easy to prove that God exists. But, no one can prove it for
> you.
WHICH GOD ?
> You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
> honest with yourself.
I can prove lots of Gods exist.
>
> And, once you prove it to yourself, you can read the Bible and it will all
> make sense to you.
No. If you read the bible you will realise that its God is the Pharaoh of
Egypt plus a who load of pagan Gods merge into one, El, Elohim, Elioun,
Saboath, Adoni and so on.
>
> Here is what you do. First, make up your mind that you will be honest in
> your search. The only person you will be fooling if you are dishonest is
> yourself. Second, if you want to hold yourself out as a non-believer,
> that's fine. You needn't tell anyone that you have proven to yourself that
> God does exist.
>
> Once you have made those committments, simply do this. Think back over
> your life and see if you can remember a time when you had an original
> thought or idea. Be honest now. Where did that thought or idea come from?
> Many will say that it came from something they heard maybe subconsciously,
> or had heard and forgotten or some other spin to validate their
> preconceived notion to deny Gods existance. But, if they are honest, they
> will continue to ask the question "where did that idea come from" until
> they have rationalized it back to the beginning of time. After all it had
> to start somewhere. And when you get there, that's God.
And when you have discovered this God you will know it is not the one of the
Bible.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
on a daily basis.
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> or all you have to do is to look at the number of murders that god commits
> on a daily basis.
Your God might commit murder.... Mine doesn't have to.
ben
Agamemnon wrote:
> "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>It is very easy to prove that God exists. But, no one can prove it for
>>you.
>
>
> WHICH GOD ?
The only one existant - the one who created the heavens and the earth
>
>
>>You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
>>honest with yourself.
>
>
> I can prove lots of Gods exist.
Prove it then...
>
>
>>And, once you prove it to yourself, you can read the Bible and it will all
>>make sense to you.
>
>
> No. If you read the bible you will realise that its God is the Pharaoh of
> Egypt plus a who load of pagan Gods merge into one, El, Elohim, Elioun,
> Saboath, Adoni and so on.
>
lol.. nice try for an excuse... so how can 'a kingdom be divided
against itself'? in other words, if the god of the bible was Pharaoh,
then why did pharaoh wipe out like almost all his army in the red sea?
>
>>Here is what you do. First, make up your mind that you will be honest in
>>your search. The only person you will be fooling if you are dishonest is
>>yourself. Second, if you want to hold yourself out as a non-believer,
>>that's fine. You needn't tell anyone that you have proven to yourself that
>>God does exist.
>>
>>Once you have made those committments, simply do this. Think back over
>>your life and see if you can remember a time when you had an original
>>thought or idea. Be honest now. Where did that thought or idea come from?
>>Many will say that it came from something they heard maybe subconsciously,
>>or had heard and forgotten or some other spin to validate their
>>preconceived notion to deny Gods existance. But, if they are honest, they
>>will continue to ask the question "where did that idea come from" until
>>they have rationalized it back to the beginning of time. After all it had
>>to start somewhere. And when you get there, that's God.
>
>
> And when you have discovered this God you will know it is not the one of the
> Bible.
>
Sooo.. saying that, you are saying you have discovered another God for
yourself.. what is your definition of a God.. A sun that just sits
there and gives us heat? or a statue sitting on the mantle staring at
you? Or an actual being who sits in the heavens and cares about us, and
actually loves you enough to send his son to die, so you have a way to
heaven?
choro-nik
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>
>
> Agamemnon wrote:
>> "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2wg4e.7208880$f47.1...@news.easynews.com...
>>
>>>It is very easy to prove that God exists. But, no one can prove it for
>>>you.
>>
>>
>> WHICH GOD ?
>
> The only one existant - the one who created the heavens and the earth
>
Oh that one.... Not the biblical one then.
>>
>>
>>>You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
>>>honest with yourself.
>>
>>
>> I can prove lots of Gods exist.
>
> Prove it then...
Since the Greek Gods were all kings or heroes from the Minoan and Mycenaean
periods who the Greeks defied and worshiped you can visit Greece and see the
temples and palaces they built. Alexander the Great was a God and none
doubts he existed. Julius Caesar was a God as was Augustus and they were
real so lots of Gods exist.
>>
>>
>>>And, once you prove it to yourself, you can read the Bible and it will
>>>all make sense to you.
>>
>>
>> No. If you read the bible you will realise that its God is the Pharaoh of
>> Egypt plus a who load of pagan Gods merge into one, El, Elohim, Elioun,
>> Saboath, Adoni and so on.
>>
>
> lol.. nice try for an excuse... so how can 'a kingdom be divided against
> itself'? in other words, if the god of the bible was Pharaoh, then why
> did pharaoh wipe out like almost all his army in the red sea?
Egypt was ruled by more than one Pharaoh at the time. According to Manetho
Lower Egypt was ruled by Amenemses (Amenophis) who then fled to Ethiopia
when the Jews sacked Memphis and Ethiopia was ruled by another Pharaoh
(Mernepta) who owed him a favour. There was also one more Pharaoh around at
the same time (1200 BC) according to Herodotus, Proetus (Setnakte) the
father of Ramses III. The God of Moses was Setnakte since the God of Joshua
was obviously Ramses III who saked Palestine at the same time that Joshua
genocided the people of Jericho (1275 BC) a generation before the bible
mentions that God ie. Pharaoh gave the rule of Palestine to Assur-Risilim
(the father of Tiglath Pilesar) the king of Assyria. After all who else
could give Palestine to the Assyrians except the king of Egypt since Egypt
ruled Palestine at the time. Further on Jeremiah says that Pharaoh Necho
ruled Palestine and two paragraphs later says the LORD gave the land to
Nebuchadnezzar. Obviously someone changed Necho in the original text of the
bible to YHWH ie. LORD.
>
>
>>
>>>Here is what you do. First, make up your mind that you will be honest in
>>>your search. The only person you will be fooling if you are dishonest is
>>>yourself. Second, if you want to hold yourself out as a non-believer,
>>>that's fine. You needn't tell anyone that you have proven to yourself
>>>that God does exist.
>>>
>>>Once you have made those committments, simply do this. Think back over
>>>your life and see if you can remember a time when you had an original
>>>thought or idea. Be honest now. Where did that thought or idea come from?
>>>Many will say that it came from something they heard maybe
>>>subconsciously, or had heard and forgotten or some other spin to validate
>>>their preconceived notion to deny Gods existance. But, if they are
>>>honest, they will continue to ask the question "where did that idea come
>>>from" until they have rationalized it back to the beginning of time.
>>>After all it had to start somewhere. And when you get there, that's God.
>>
>>
>> And when you have discovered this God you will know it is not the one of
>> the Bible.
>>
>
> Sooo.. saying that, you are saying you have discovered another God for
I've discovered lots of Gods.
> yourself.. what is your definition of a God.. A sun that just sits
My definition is the same as that of Herodotus and the ancient Greeks. A
disposer.
> there and gives us heat? or a statue sitting on the mantle staring at
> you? Or an actual being who sits in the heavens and cares about us, and
> actually loves you enough to send his son to die, so you have a way to
> heaven?
Oh you mean like Harakles. Him as well.
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
bullshit child-murdering christian god, I am going to kill him.
.
choro-nik
yours would be responsible for earthquakes and tsunamis? Your God of the Sea
springs to mind but would he have to work hand in glove with the god of the
netherworld or Olympus since mountains are caused by tectonic plates rubbing
against one another?
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"choro-nik" <chor...@tvcom.net> wrote in message
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> Hey, AgamemnonASS, you seem to have some explaining to do. Which "god" of
> yours would be responsible for earthquakes and tsunamis? Your God of the
> Sea springs to mind but would he have to work hand in glove with the god
> of the netherworld or Olympus since mountains are caused by tectonic
> plates rubbing against one another?
Poseidon is both God of the Sea and of Earthquakes.
ben
Well that clears it up... as clear as mud..
choro-nik
>
> "choro-nik" <chor...@tvcom.net> wrote in message
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>> Hey, AgamemnonASS, you seem to have some explaining to do. Which "god" of
>> yours would be responsible for earthquakes and tsunamis? Your God of the
>> Sea springs to mind but would he have to work hand in glove with the god
>> of the netherworld or Olympus since mountains are caused by tectonic
>> plates rubbing against one another?
>
> Poseidon is both God of the Sea and of Earthquakes.
Well, then, how do you explain the deaths of nearly a quarter of a million
people in the latest Indonesian Tsunami and the aftershocks since in an
earlier posting you claimed that "Your God might commit murder.... Mine
doesn't have to."? Come on then. You always have an answer to anything and
everything.
Maverick
> your god of the bible is a murdering asshole, and if I ever see your
> idiotic bullshit child-murdering christian god, I am going to kill him.
>
> .
>
>
PLONK
Maverick
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> "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>> It is very easy to prove that God exists. But, no one can prove it for
>> you.
>
> WHICH GOD ?
>
>> You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
>> honest with yourself.
>
> I can prove lots of Gods exist.
A fear of proving to oneself the existance of God is understandable. It
takes away the notion one is in control of their destiny and many people
just can't accept that. The facade is easily discovered.
Agamemnon
> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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>>
>> "choro-nik" <chor...@tvcom.net> wrote in message
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>>> Hey, AgamemnonASS, you seem to have some explaining to do. Which "god"
>>> of yours would be responsible for earthquakes and tsunamis? Your God of
>>> the Sea springs to mind but would he have to work hand in glove with the
>>> god of the netherworld or Olympus since mountains are caused by tectonic
>>> plates rubbing against one another?
>>
>> Poseidon is both God of the Sea and of Earthquakes.
>
> Well, then, how do you explain the deaths of nearly a quarter of a million
> people in the latest Indonesian Tsunami and the aftershocks since in an
> earlier posting you claimed that "Your God might commit murder.... Mine
> doesn't have to."? Come on then. You always have an answer to anything
> and everything.
Did they worship Poseidon ? I dont think so. If they had they would have
built him an offering of an early warning system and made financial
sacrifices to keep it running. As Aesop says, the Gods only help those who
help themseves.
Agamemnon
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> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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>> "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>>> It is very easy to prove that God exists. But, no one can prove it for
>>> you.
>>
>> WHICH GOD ?
>>
>>> You have to prove it to yourself and in order to do that, you have to be
>>> honest with yourself.
>>
>> I can prove lots of Gods exist.
>
> A fear of proving to oneself the existance of God is understandable. It
Which God are you referring to ?
Panta Rhei
> And Thus Speaketh AgamemnonASS, the Theologian.
Well, you blathering Turkish piece of shit. He hasn't produced yet anything
like what you manage to say about yourself: "choro-sick is smarter than
you can even comprehend"!!!! Sounds like a statement by A TRUE ASS! Right,
Turkish shit? LMAO!
choro-nik
It is a fully erect Turkish yarrakh!
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choro-nik
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> "choro-nik" <chor...@tvcom.net> wrote in message
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>> "Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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>>> "choro-nik" <chor...@tvcom.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Hey, AgamemnonASS, you seem to have some explaining to do. Which "god"
>>>> of yours would be responsible for earthquakes and tsunamis? Your God of
>>>> the Sea springs to mind but would he have to work hand in glove with
>>>> the god of the netherworld or Olympus since mountains are caused by
>>>> tectonic plates rubbing against one another?
>>>
>>> Poseidon is both God of the Sea and of Earthquakes.
>>
>> Well, then, how do you explain the deaths of nearly a quarter of a
>> million people in the latest Indonesian Tsunami and the aftershocks since
>> in an earlier posting you claimed that "Your God might commit murder....
>> Mine doesn't have to."? Come on then. You always have an answer to
>> anything and everything.
>
> Did they worship Poseidon ? I dont think so. If they had they would have
> built him an offering of an early warning system and made financial
> sacrifices to keep it running. As Aesop says, the Gods only help those who
> help themseves.
And what about the earthquake in Greece a couple or so years ago? How do you
account for that? How about the fact that Greece is slipping under the Med,
albeit very very slowly indeed but sinking all the same?
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Agamemnon
The one in Greece dissipated the same amount of energy as the one in Turkey
and yet claimed 100 times fewer vitimes. So work out who Poseidon protected.
> account for that? How about the fact that Greece is slipping under the
> Med, albeit very very slowly indeed but sinking all the same?
And England is sinking into the Atlantic.
Panta Rhei
> Are you on heat, Panta? It is not a Turkish piece of shit in your bumhole.
> It is a fully erect Turkish yarrakh!
Let me guess: this is another example of you being "smarter that you can
ever comprehend"! LOL
choro-nik
in Turkey was 7.3. There is a vast difference between
FYI, 5.5 is double the strength of 5.2, while 5.8 is four times the
strength of 5.2. Also don't forget that the quake in Turkey struck at a
time when everybody was asleep and struck a densely populated area.
Poseidon has nothing to do with it. If Gods have anything to do with mother
nature, then I am I don't know what.
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"Agamemnon" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
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Agamemnon
> Agamemnonass, the quake in Greece was 5.2 on the Richter scale while the
> one in Turkey was 7.3. There is a vast difference between
>
> FYI, 5.5 is double the strength of 5.2, while 5.8 is four times the
> strength of 5.2. Also don't forget that the quake in Turkey struck at a
The one in Greece lasted longer so the buildings had more time to crack.
> time when everybody was asleep and struck a densely populated area.
And Athens isn't a densely populated area is it.
>
> Poseidon has nothing to do with it. If Gods have anything to do with
> mother nature, then I am I don't know what.
Poseidon protected Greece more than he did Turkey.
choro-nik
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Henry Hooray
> The one in Greece dissipated the same amount of energy as the one in
> Turkey and yet claimed 100 times fewer vitimes. So work out who Poseidon
> protected.
Poseidon must have a weak spot for those Scandinavians - hardly ever a quake
that is strong enough to be felt. No big waves a la tsunami either.
Is this because Poseidon is worshipped so greatly in Scandinavia, Agamemnon?
Henry.
choro-nik
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Hey 'Ann-Ri, I see you are UP!!! Scandinavia is TOO COLD for Poseidon. Or
didn't you know?
Anyway, don't expect a response from Agamemnon. He is too busy constructing,
of should I say handcrafting, solid wooden block Stradivari violins.
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> Henry.
>
sofia...@gmail.com
murders! Also just so that you know and you dont waste the rest of your
life with all that pent up hate towards god (who gave life to you)...
you will not be able to kill god when you see him, as he is not of
flesh.
Agamemnon
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And which God might this be ? Your God or some other God. Name him.
DTV Refugee
>
>
> A fear of proving to oneself the existance of God is understandable. It
> takes away the notion one is in control of their destiny and many people
> just can't accept that. The facade is easily discovered
The world is a scary and dangerous place; accidents, illness, death. The
mentally weak use fairy tales, superstitions and imaginary super beings they
feel they can petition with prayer as a coping mechanism despite the fact
that mountains of evidence contradict that notion. Reality is a scary thing
and some people just refuse delivery.
DTV Refugee
Not of the flesh? But you said "his" children. So that means "he's" male,
right? If god is male that means "he" is an animal presumably a human
animal, right? And if he had children I guess that means he had sex. Who did
he have sex with? Human animals can only live on planet earth since we need
air, water & food, right? So where do you suppose he is in a cave in
Afghanistan somewhere?
DTV Refugee
>
> Well, then, how do you explain the deaths of nearly a quarter of a million
> people in the latest Indonesian Tsunami and the aftershocks since in an
> earlier posting you claimed that "Your God might commit murder.... Mine
> doesn't have to."? Come on then. You always have an answer to anything
> and everything.
>
You're trying to reason with the unreasonable, the irrational. It's
hopeless. No amount of reason gets thru to the mentally ill because religion
itself is a mental illness. You are required to believe in superstitions and
imaginary beings for which there is not a shred of evidence. That's pretty
much a definition of mental illness.
DTV Refugee
>
> Poseidon protected Greece more than he did Turkey.
>
Well, there you go, concrete scientific proof, what more do you need?
ben
God, but in the image of..
Costanza
the Power Ball lottery...if and when He does.. if they are winners
(with HIM been Omnipotent...it should be a breeze)...I'll post in here
all the praises to his greatness...now keep in mind that I said
PowerBall ..not that cheezy State Lotto...The countdown starts!!!!!
Banjo Hunter
asking for a sign. So, he only gave me 5 of the 6 for the Wednesday, April
20 drawing. 8, 16, 24, 29, 45. Then I asked which one was the powerball,
but he had hung up.
Anyway, that should prove that He exists, even if he does not want to may
you rich for some reason. And, he has his reasons. No one likes a rich
smart ass.
;-)
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Costanza
than a poor one...This is God...Signing Off (cant believe I miss the
PowerBall by 5 numbers...there goes my omnipotence)....Enjoy!!!