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No human skin lampshades have ever been found.


According to the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C:

"None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have ever
turned out to be real,"

http://www.dailyprogress.com/

"Tales of such ghastly shades have circulated for decades. They
stemmed, in part, from considerable newspaper coverage after WWII about
human lampshades made at Buchenwald concentration camp.

But Diane Saltzman, director of the collections division of the
Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., is highly skeptical that the
shade is human skin. Despite the reports, not one has been found.

"None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have
ever turned out to be real," Saltzman said. "There is no proof that
this practice has ever occurred."

------------------------


http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/IlseKoch.html

Dachau War Crime Trials

"The trials at Dachau brought some of the worst traits of mankind to
light. But, as I found out, at Dachau and from the case records years
later, those trials served neither historical truth, nor justice." -
Joseph Halow, Dachau court reporter, 1992, "Innocent at Dachau"

"And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that
the lamp shades were made out of goat skin."

The Trial of Else Koch, the "Bitch of Buchenwald"

The most notorious war criminal, of all those who were brought before
the American Military Tribunal at Dachau, was unquestionably Ilse
Koch, the wife of Karl Otto Koch, the infamous former Commandant of
the Buchenwald concentration camp, and an SS-Aufseherin (female
overseer) in the camp herself. The two photographs above show the
41-year-old "Bitch of Buchenwald" in the courtroom at Dachau. Ilse
Koch was charged with the horrific crime of selecting Buchenwald
prisoners to be killed by her alleged lover, Dr. Waldemar Hoven, in
order to have lamp shades made from their tattooed skin.

After the war, American investigators tried to get Konrad Morgen to
sign an affidavit that Frau Koch had ordered prisoners killed to make
human lamp shades, but he refused, even after several beatings. The
following quote is from a footnote in John Toland's book, entitled
"Adolf Hitler":

"Morgen also did his best to convict Ilse Koch, the wife of the
Buchenwald commandant. He was convinced that she was guilty of
sadistic crimes, but the charges against her could not be proven.
After the war Morgen was asked by an American official to testify that
Frau Koch made lampshades from the skin of inmates. Morgen replied
that, while she undoubtedly was guilty of many crimes, she was truly
innocent of this charge.

According to Jean Edward Smith in his biography, "Lucius D. Clay, an
American Life, "the general maintained that the leather lamp shades
were really made out of goat skin. The book quotes a statement made by
General Clay years later:

"There was absolutely no evidence in the trial transcript, other
than she was a rather loathsome creature, that would support the death
sentence. I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything
else I did in Germany. Some reporter had called her the "Bitch of
Buchenwald," had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin
in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was
absolutely proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin."

According to the Buchenwald Report, there was a factory at Buchenwald,
which produced leather goods out of animal skins, but it caught on
fire during an Allied bombing raid on the camp on August 24, 1944.
-------------------------------

Associated Press, September 25, 2000

"This one soap story keeps rolling around. Soap became sort of a
metaphor -- they killed them and made soap out of them -- to show how
horrible the Nazis were. -- Deborah Lipstadt, an Emory University
history professor

Holocaust museum, author at odds

by RUSS NUM
Associated Press Writer

ATLANTA (AP) -- A dispute over a new memoir has cast a spotlight on
the powerfully enduring belief that the Nazis made soap from the
bodies of Jews -- something that Holocaust scholars largely dismiss as
myth.

RIF soapThe U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington has refused
to allow a book-signing for an Atlanta man whose memoir tells the
story of an uncle who says the Nazis forced him to make soap from
victims at Auschwitz.

Ben Hirsch said the museum doesn't want to be seen as endorsing the
soap-making stories in his book, "Hearing a Different Drummer."

Museum officials did not immediately return calls for comment. But
Peter Black, the museum's chief historian, told The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution that Hirsch "was advocating that we explore what
is essentially a dead end."

Historians have never been able to prove, or disprove, that the Nazis
used human fat to make soap. Many say the tales are probably just
rumors so gruesome that they are still circulating nearly 60 years
later.

But Hirsch, whose parents and two siblings died in concentration
camps, said his book offers new evidence -- excerpts from unpublished
memoirs that his uncle typed in broken English.

"How dare you say that it didn't happen when you say there's not
enough proof," Hirsch, 68, said Monday. "I just can't imagine anybody
writing a memoir and saying they made soap if they didn't. It's not
something to be proud of."

Historians have documented many Nazi atrocities -- of Jews killed
in gas chambers and used as live subjects in science experiments.
Their hair and gold fillings were removed for industrial use. And in
at least one instance, the skin of Jews was used to make lampshades.

One Holocaust scholar said the museum has good reason to distance
itself from Hirsch's soap story: The tale could give new ammunition to
those who insist the Holocaust was a hoax.

"Holocaust deniers have seized upon the soap story as proof of
demonstrating the unreliability of Holocaust survivors," said
Christopher Browning, a historian at the University of North Carolina.
"I don't think they can afford to compromise themselves on this."

Raul Hilberg, considered the dean of Holocaust scholars, said rumors
that the Nazis made soap from human fat started circulating in Poland
in 1942, the same year they first appeared in American newspapers.

Testimonial accounts of soap-making tend to be secondhand at best.
Hilberg said he cannot recall a single account from a survivor who saw
human soap being made. He said he doubts the soap stories, in part,
because the Germans would have found such a product repulsive.

"The idea of washing oneself with soap made of human fat, aside from
the fact they didn't like Jews and didn't want any contact with them,
it was considered sick," he said.

Hirsch's memoir, which remains on the shelves at the museum's
bookstore, mostly recalls his experience as a U.S. soldier in
post-World War II Germany. But he uses one chapter to criticize
scholars for rejecting stories of human soap.

He quotes a typewritten manuscript by his uncle, Philipp Auerbach,[*]
a chemist who said Nazis made him manufacture soap using human remains
at Auschwitz.

One excerpt reads:

"As chief of the soap-production I had to take care of the
production of fat and to make controls in the Slaughter-house. Nearly
every week I have been three or four times there in order to get the
waste of fat and of the bowels for the soap-manufacture."

Hirsch also recalls how he helped a rabbi in 1970 bury four bars of
soap at Atlanta's Greenwood Cemetery. He says the soap had been found
by a Jewish soldier who helped liberate a concentration camp at the
end of World War II. Lipstadt. Don't clickThe soldier's wife had them
buried after finding them in her basement decades later.

For those who ask, the Holocaust museum distributes a fact sheet
saying the story that Nazis used corpses for soap is a rumor that has
never been substantiated.

"This one soap story keeps rolling around," said Deborah Lipstadt,
right, an Emory University history professor who recently prevailed in
a legal dispute against a British scholar whom she accused of denying
the Nazis slaughtered millions of Jews. "Soap became sort of a
metaphor -- they killed them and made soap out of them -- to show how
horrible the Nazis were."

© Copyright 2000 The Associated Press

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040604.html

Did the Nazis make lampshades out of human skin?

04-Jun-2004

Now, I'm no Holocaust denier. I firmly believe the Holocaust occurred
and the Nazis committed great atrocities during WWII. What I have a
hard time believing is the accusation that Nazis made lampshades from
human skin. Genocide is repulsive, but making lampshades out of human
skin is more in line with what crazy serial killers do. I can see
Nazis experimenting on Jews for their research and stealing their gold
teeth for money, but what would they do with a lampshade made from
human skin? Bring it back home as a gift to the hausfrau? Is this just
an urban legend born out of Allied propaganda, or is there any truth
to this? --Andres, via e-mail

Cecil replies:

At first I was skeptical about your skepticism, Andres. You're saying
that methodically exterminating five to six million people, performing
bizarre experiments on them, and plundering their bodies is, at some
level, comprehensible, but making lampshades out of their skin--now
that's crazy. Personally I wasn't seeing any great leap,
depravitywise. However, on investigation, I think you may be right.
While the Nazis kept many grisly mementos of their victims, including
tattooed skin, the lampshade claim may be a myth.

By far the best-known account of human souvenirs comes from the camp
at Buchenwald. Here's the story as best I can piece it together:

(1) Even by Nazi standards, Buchenwald was out of control. Its
original commandant, Karl Koch, was by all accounts corrupt and cruel.
Inmates loathed him and his apparently sadistic wife, Ilse, whom they
dubbed "the Witch of Buchenwald." Meanwhile, medical personnel were
keeping human souvenirs--in 1942 SS higher-ups ordered them to quit
making "gifts" such as shrunken heads. A story arose that Ilse had had
tattooed prisoners killed so lampshades and other articles could be
made from their skin.

(2) In 1943 the SS conducted an internal investigation and tried the
Kochs on charges including embezzlement and incitement to murder.
(Karl had arranged for the shooting of two inmates who knew he'd
contracted syphilis--the SS brass, if not necessarily the rank and
file, paid at least lip service to the notion that prisoners weren't
to be killed frivolously.) The SS judge, Konrad Morgen, found Karl
guilty and ordered his execution, but acquitted Ilse. Later at her war
crimes trial Morgen testified that a thorough search of her home found
no human-skin lampshades or the like. Ilse didn't live at Buchenwald
after 1943.

(3) Shortly after U.S. troops liberated Buchenwald in 1945, director
Billy Wilder made a documentary about the camp to publicize Nazi
atrocities. A widely circulated still photo from the film showed a
table covered with preserved human remains, including two shrunken
heads; several pieces of what appears to be tattooed skin; and an
ordinary-looking table lamp. The film's narration says that among the
items found was "a lampshade, made of human skin, made at the request
of an SS officer's wife." The press went nuts, and soon the lampshade
became emblematic of Nazi barbarism.

(4) Ilse Koch and others from Buchenwald were tried in 1947 for war
crimes. Prosecutors submitted as evidence a shrunken head and three
pieces of tattooed human skin but apparently no lampshade. Much of the
testimony against Koch was hearsay, although at least one former
inmate said he'd seen a tattooed-skin lampshade. Koch was convicted,
but her life sentence was commuted on review, in part because of
doubts about the witnesses' credibility. She was later tried by a
German court, again sentenced to life, and committed suicide in prison
in 1967.

(5) Five pieces of tattooed skin are kept at the National Museum of
Health and Medicine (NMHM) and one at the National Archives (NA), both
federal facilities in the D.C. area. All six items are from
Buchenwald; three have been positively identified as human, and
another is now being tested. The NA item was once labeled "human skin
lampshade," but an archivist there says it has no perforations or
other indications of such use. Two of the NMHM items have holes on the
left side as though from a hole punch. A third, which is large and
irregularly shaped, has pinholes around the perimeter at one- to
three-centimeter intervals. How the holes got there is unknown, but a
photo shows the skins stuck up on an exhibit board at Ilse Koch's 1947
trial. The NMHM curator reserves judgment, but to me nothing suggests
these items were part of a lampshade. The lamp from the movie still
has vanished; however, as photographed it doesn't match the lamp
described by witnesses at the trial--it has no visible markings at
all.

Absent compelling evidence to the contrary, I tend to the view that
appalled liberation forces heard the survivors' tales, found the
tattooed-skin souvenirs, and thought, Whoa, lampshades. In short, the
story may be a legend. Does this prove the Holocaust didn't happen? Of
course not, whatever deniers claim. But there's no need to exaggerate
one of history's most infamous crimes.

LATE ADDITION

Occasionally you hear about human-skin lampshades in private
collections. I won't claim to have surveyed the field, but I did speak
to Norm Sauer, a professor of forensic anthropology at Michigan State
University. Professor Sauer was part of a team of experts that a few
years ago examined a number of alleged human souvenirs that had been
donated to the Holocaust Memorial Center, now located in Farmington
Hills, MI. Among the items were a lampshade (and it really was a
lampshade, consisting of panels on a wire frame), two chess sets, and
a bar of soap, along with some collections of ashes, bone fragments,
and so on. Although some of the bone fragments did appear to be human,
most and possibly all of the household objects were not. The chess
sets were made of animal but not human bone; the lampshade possibly
was deer or goat but not human skin. Tests of the soap were
inconclusive. (The alleged practice of rendering human fat into soap
is a story unto itself; the common opinion now seems to be that while
it may have been made experimentally once, human soap was never
produced in quantity.) You never know what will turn up, but without
tests, don't assume that just because a lampshade or other item is
claimed to be of human origin, it is.

--CECIL ADAMS

http://www.valleyviewrv.com/tour_main.htm

The cabin was built by a very talented German immigrant in the thirties and
everything in the cabin is hand made even down to the lamp shades which are
made from animal skins.


According to the Buchenwald Report, there was a factory at Buchenwald,
which produced leather goods out of animal skins, but it caught on
fire during an Allied bombing raid on the camp on August 24, 1944.

http://www.amazon.com/Buchenwald-Report-David-Hackett/dp/0813333636
The Buchenwald Report (Paperback)

According to Jean Edward Smith in his biography, "Lucius D. Clay, an
American Life," the general maintained that the leather lamp shades
were really made out of goat skin. The book quotes a statement made by
General Clay years later:

"There was absolutely no evidence in the trial transcript, other than
she was a rather loathsome creature, that would support the death
sentence. I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything
else I did in Germany. Some reporter had called her the "Bitch of
Buchenwald," had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin in
her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely
proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin."


According to the Buchenwald Report, there was a factory at Buchenwald, which
produced leather goods out of animal skins, but it caught on fire during an
Allied bombing raid on the camp on August 24, 1944.

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/IlseKoch4.html

"A display table was set up and a film, directed by Billy Wilder, was made
to document the atrocities in the camp."


Billy Wilder (June 22, 1906 - March 27, 2002) was an Austrian-born,
Jewish-American journalist, screenwriter, film director, and producer whose
career spanned more than 50 years and 60 films. He is regarded as one of the
most brilliant and versatile filmmakers of Hollywood's golden age.

Under cross-examination, Dr. Sitte was forced to admit that he had never
seen any of the lampshades allegedly made of human skin and that he had no
personal knowledge of any prisoner who had been reported by Frau Koch and
was then killed so that his tattooed skin could be made into a lampshade. He
also admitted that the lampshade that was on the display table in the film
was not the lampshade made from human skin that was allegedly delivered to
Frau Koch. Apparently the most important piece of evidence, the lampshade
made from human skin, was nowhere in sight during the trial.

--
+


Kenneth McVay OBC

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In article <13rb0bl...@corp.supernews.com>,

Gnostic <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote:
>No human skin lampshades have ever been found.

Human skin artifacts, however, have not only been found, but can be examined in the
Archives of the United States of America.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/clay-koch-01.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/appendix-8-01.html

Seventh Medical Laboratory
APO 403, c/o PK, New York, N.Y.
Section of Pathology

25 May 1945


SUBJECT: Identification of Tattoed Skin Hides


TO : COMMANDING GENERAL, Third U. S. Army
(ATTN: JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL)


1. There were submitted to this laboratory section for examination three tanned pieces
of skin by Lt. Col. GIVIN from Buchenwald Camp with office record designation of Case 81
T.J.A.


2. The description follows:


......


PIECE C: Is truncated, measures 44 cm. at the base. The upper portion is 30 cm. long and
the sides measure 46 cm. The skin is transparent, and shows two nipples in the upper
area. These are 16 cm. apart. From the nipple level to the umbilicus is 23 1/2 cm. ....


MICROSCOPIC: The tissue consists of bundles of collagen showing occasional epithelial and
sweat gland remnants. Granular black pigment granules are seen between some of the
bundles.


3. Based on the findings in paragraph 2, all three specimens are tattooed human skin.


For the Commanding Officer,


(signature) REUBEN CARES
Major M.C.
Chief of Pathology

>Associated Press, September 25, 2000
>
>"This one soap story keeps rolling around. Soap became sort of a
>metaphor -- they killed them and made soap out of them -- to show how
>horrible the Nazis were. -- Deborah Lipstadt, an Emory University
>history professor
>
>Holocaust museum, author at odds
>
>by RUSS NUM
>Associated Press Writer
>
>ATLANTA (AP) -- A dispute over a new memoir has cast a spotlight on
>the powerfully enduring belief that the Nazis made soap from the
>bodies of Jews -- something that Holocaust scholars largely dismiss as
>myth.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/soap-01.html

>Historians have never been able to prove, or disprove, that the Nazis
>used human fat to make soap. Many say the tales are probably just
>rumors so gruesome that they are still circulating nearly 60 years
>later.

False.

SOAP MADE FROM HUMAN REMAINS
7.10.2006. 10:52:34

The Nazis used human fat to make soap during the Second World War
in a medical academy located in what is now the Polish Baltic
sea port city of Gdansk, Polish war crimes prosecutors confirmed
today.

Officials with Poland's Institute for National Remembrance (IPN)
based their findings on a laboratory analysis of a piece of soap
found in 1945 in the medical academy which was run by German
Professor Rudolf Spanner.

A new laboratory analysis of the soap revealed human fat was one
of its components, spokesperson for IPN Paulina Szumera told Deutsche
Presse-Agentur in a telephone interview.

Human remains used to make the soap were believed to have been
brought from Kaliningrad, Bydgoszcz and the Stutthof Nazi German
concentration camp located about 30 km from Gdansk.

The IPN investigation found that the soap in question was used to
clean operating and autopsy rooms.

The piece of soap was used as evidence in the post-WWII Nuremburg
Trials where prominent German Nazis were prosecuted for crimes against
humanity.

At the time, prosecutors lacked the technology to determine
whether the soap contained human tissue.

= 30 =

http://www.ejpress.org/article/11052

Polish study confirms Nazis made soap from human bodies
Updated: 09/Oct/2006 22:14

WARSAW (AFP)--- Poland's Nazi German occupiers used "substances" from the bodies of
concentration camp prisoners to make soap, a study carried out by Poland's National
Remembrance Institute (IPN) to counter the arguments of negationists showed Friday.

"We have determined that, without the shadow of a doubt, soap was produced using
substances obtained from human bodies at the anatomical insitute of the Medical Academy
of Danzig, led by Professor Rudolf Spanner," Paulina Szumera of the IPN told AFP.

Danzig is the German name for the Polish city of Gdansk.

"We launched our investigation to still the voices denying that this ever happened," she
said.

For the IPN probe, Polish scientists studied a bar of soap that was presented as
evidence during the Nuremberg Nazi war crime trials after World War II, that was in the
archives of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Szumera said.

Polish television station TVN24 cited IPN investigators as saying the bodies of
prisoners at the Nazi concentration camp of Stutthof, in northern Poland, and at Gdansk
municipal jail were used to make the soap.

The bodies of patients at a psychiatric hospital in Gdansk were also used, the
investigators told TVN24.

Several dozen kilogrammes of soap were produced by the Nazis in Gdansk and used to clean
Spanner's laboratory work surfaces, the IPN said.

Almond extract was added to the soap to give it a palatable scent.

Soaps are usually made from fats and oils that react with lye (sodium hydroxide).

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=111551&version=1&template_id=39&parent_id=21

Human touch in Nazi soap

Published: Saturday, 7 October, 2006, 10:00 AM Doha Time

WARSAW: Poland?s Nazi German occupiers used ?substances? from the bodies of concentration
camp prisoners to make soap, a study carried out by Poland?s National Remembrance
Institute (IPN) to counter the arguments of negationists showed yesterday.
?We have determined that, without the shadow of a doubt, soap was produced using
substances obtained from human bodies at the anatomical institute of the Medical Academy
of Danzig, led by Professor Rudolf Spanner,? Paulina Szumera of the IPN told AFP.
Danzig is the German name for the Polish city of Gdansk.
?We launched our investigation to still the voices denying that this happened,? she said.
For the IPN probe, Polish scientists studied a bar of soap that was presented as evidence
during the Nuremberg Nazi war crime trials after World War II, that was in the archives
of the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Szumera said.
Polish television station TVN24 cited IPN investigators as saying that the bodies of
prisoners at the Nazi concentration camp of Stutthof, in northern Poland, and at Gdansk
municipal jail were used to make the soap.
Several dozen kilogrammes of soap were produced by the Nazis in Gdansk and used to clean
Spanner?s laboratory work surfaces, the IPN said.
Almond extract was added to the soap to give it a palatable scent.
Soaps are usually made from fats and oils that react with lye (sodium hydroxide). ? AFP

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William Daffer

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"Gnostic" <bardi...@mypacks.net> writes:

> No human skin lampshades have ever been found.
>
>
> According to the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C:
>
> "None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have ever
> turned out to be real,"
>
> http://www.dailyprogress.com/
>
> "Tales of such ghastly shades have circulated for decades. They
> stemmed, in part, from considerable newspaper coverage after WWII about
> human lampshades made at Buchenwald concentration camp.
>
> But Diane Saltzman, director of the collections division of the
> Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., is highly skeptical that the
> shade is human skin. Despite the reports, not one has been found.
>
> "None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have
> ever turned out to be real," Saltzman said. "There is no proof that
> this practice has ever occurred."
>
> ------------------------

Funny. I went to http://search.dailyprogress.com/Search.jsp?mode=advanced

and typed

holocaust museum lampshades

into the '_All_ of these words' box, clicked on the 'All' (as opposed
to the 'News' or 'Shopping') radio button and the 'Search all
Entries' under the 'date range' selection

Guess what happened? I got no results. None, zilch, zip, nada,
nothing.

Perhaps you'd like to provide a more direct link? (though I rather
doubt it)

When I googled the first sentence in your story I got a rather
predictable IHR hit, but when I followed the link at the title
(Lampshade a WWII Mystery) of the little 3 parageraph article (which
was word-for-word the same as yours, que'lle suprise) it went to
dailyprogress.com, (no surprise there) but in the Jobs section. No
article, certainly not what's up there, in quotes, with an
attribution to _The Daily Progress_

So, I googled "+Diane +Saltzman +lampshade", and aside from
depressing predictable 100 hits at the denier websites with exactly
the same texts as yours, I found


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1176152779297&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter


(http://tinyurl.com/ynn633)

which has the following

<quote>

Diane Saltzman, current director of institutional stewardship and
the former director of collections at the US Holocaust Memorial
Museum, said human remains are "not things we'll accept into the
collection... we don't see them as having any educational value."

Saltzman said she doesn't think there's any mention of killing
people for their tattooed skin in the museum's exhibits, though it
does feature prominently the medical experiments conducted in
Buchenwald, usually behind a taller partition to prevent young
children from witnessing.

</quote>

By the way, if you read the article, it's about a man trying to get
one of these organizations to exhibit these artifacts. Seems rather
unlikely that she would respond as she did in the jpost.com article
if she believed as you claim she believes in the *alleged* quote you
give above.

Which pretty much gives your little story up there the lie, doesn't
it?

Gee, a denier lying about historical evidence. Who would have thought
such a think would happen!


[snip]

whd

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Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

THE *RIF* SOAP'S HOAX

I previously explained why "human soap" can be found eventually at every
laboratory working with bones and skeletons' cleansing by mean of caustic soda.
Oil or fat reacts with an alkali (it can be lye - caustic soda/sodium hydroxide
or potassium hydroxide) to form glycerin plus soap. That reaction is much older
than the Roman empire.

<< The Ebers papyrus (Egypt, 1550 BC) indicates that ancient Egyptians bathed
regularly and combined animal and vegetable oils with alkaline salts to create a
soap-like substance. Egyptian documents mention that a soap-like substance was
used in the preparation of wool for weaving.

.../

Historically, soap was made by mixing animal fats with lye. Because of the
caustic lye, this was a dangerous procedure (perhaps more dangerous than any
present-day home activities) which could result in serious chemical burns or
even blindness. Before commercially-produced lye (sodium hydroxide) was
commonplace, potash, potassium hydroxide, was produced at home for soap making
from the ashes of a hardwood fire.>>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#History

The "RIF soap" hoax, starting like a mere joke at the camps by twisting the
letters 'RIF' from a German manufacturer label[*], came at light to the world
when, at Nuremberg Trial, Russian prosecution used a "finding" at a Medical
Center in Danzig to accuse the nazis of having "started a commercialization" by
preparing in mass such "soap" which was actually a mere residue of a white bones
cleansing operation. That Medical Center was in fact preparing skeletons and
bones to educational purpose as part of its activity.
To charge nazis with that hoax was not a hard job to the Russians who had worked
hard to charge Katyn on them including 100 convenient "eyewitnesses". It was
only a little part of the accusation.

That kind of "human soap" can be found even nowadays at every laboratory which
prepares skeletons or bones with caustic soda or other alkali to its use for
medical education purpose. The "soap" is merely a residue of the white cleansing
operation coming from the reaction of caustic soda with the fat contained in
remains of flesh attached to the bones.

To pretend that nazis made "special experiments" with human bodies at Danzig
Medical Center in order to study a "commercialization of human soap" is proper
to make every chemist laugh at loud.

However, the holoko$$tians use desperately that "Danzig's finding" to save part
of the "Soap HOAX story".

[*] RIF was a label on a soap which meant "Reichstelle für Industrielle
Fettversorgung" (National Center for Industrial Fat Supply)
and at the camps a morbid joke was spreaded by twisting the letters "RJF, Rein
Jüdisches Fett" (Pure Jewish fat).


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