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Kardo

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The Associated Press via NewsEdge Corporation : Corporate eagles,
captains of industry, as well as sports stars lit up the spanking-new
Burger King outlet along UN Avenue recently.

The occasion was the formal opening of the first Burger King restaurant
in the city of Manila, and the atmosphere was literally burning with
excitement. Music specially selected for ``fire'' themes underscored the
theme that BK burgers are the only flame-grilled hamburgers in town.

At the forefront of the sizzling formal ceremonies were top executives
of PhilKing Restaurant Development Corp., a three-company alliance among
giant food firm Pure Foods Corp., California-based RY LLC, and ELRO
Industrial & Commercial Corp., that introduced America's favorite
fastfood chain to the Filipino foodscape. Playing host for the occasion
was PhilKing President Raul Nazareno.

Leading the simple ceremonies were Jaime Augusto Zobel de Ayala,
president of Ayala Corp. and vice-chair of Pure Foods; Renato
Montemayor, co-chair of PhilKing and president of Pure Foods Corp.;
Meshulam Riklis and Yair Hasson, both of RY LLC; and Francisco Elizalde
of ELRO leading the inauguration ceremonies. Witnessing the occasion
were Coca-Cola Bottlers execs Bill O' Brien, Dugald Anthony, Jack
Celdran, Reggie Soriano, Ed del Rosario, Herman Medina-Cue, and Hans
Supetran, whose alliance with Burger King ensures that all its clients
have bottomless refills of Coke beverages.

Hardcourt personalities Alvin Patrimonio and Jerry Codinera arrived,
together with coach Eric Altamirano (with wife Marissa in tow) and staff
Frankie Lim, Louie Alas, Ryan Gregorio and Roy Lazaro, team manager
Monchito Mossessgeld, as well as Purefoods Carne Norte Beefies teammates
Dindo Pumaren, Bong Ravena, Rey Evangelista, Elmer Lago, Edmund Reyes,
Bong Solomon, and EJ Feihl.

Other guests who were treated a fiery welcome were Bulletin/ Panorama
publisher Napoleon Rama, Tommy Tanchangco, Pure Foods execs Teddy
Dimayuga, Greg Latonio, Ely Capacio, Dick Tope and Gil Buensuceso, and
Tony Laurel of Ayala Agri.

Burger King Manila also has a nifty drive-thru counter that's open until
the wee hours of the morning, and an expanded menu that includes
breakfast and fabulous Croissan'wich meals. A hot start for the company
that plans to conquer the metropolis with seven more restos, all before
June '98.

Copyright 1998 BUSINESS DAILY all rights reserved as distributed by
WorldSources, Inc.

[04-01-98 at 15:44 EDT, Copyright 1998, The Associated Press, File:
h0401103.000]

mahalkositoyang

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Kardo <kard...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The Associated Press via NewsEdge Corporation : Corporate eagles,
>captains of industry, as well as sports stars lit up the spanking-new
>Burger King outlet along UN Avenue recently.

i bet you their whopper jr is not much bigger than an ordinary yo-yo.

Benjamin L. Guadiz

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Apr 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/9/98
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Kardo wrote:
>
> The Associated Press via NewsEdge Corporation : Corporate eagles,
> captains of industry, as well as sports stars lit up the spanking-new
> Burger King outlet along UN Avenue recently.
>
> The occasion was the formal opening of the first Burger King restaurant
> in the city of Manila, and the atmosphere was literally burning with
> excitement. Music specially selected for ``fire'' themes underscored the
> theme that BK burgers are the only flame-grilled hamburgers in town.
>

===========
MY TURN:

Mang Kardz ..., could this be an example of
"Too Little, Too Late ???"

Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.

Baka naman BK will end up like MANG DONALDS (Mac Donalds).

benjamin
bl...@ix.netcom.com
bl...@earthlink.net
rcd...@i-manila.com.ph
Colton, CA 92324
USA

Kardo

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Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote:
> MY TURN:
>
> Mang Kardz ..., could this be an example of
> "Too Little, Too Late ???"
>
> Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
> the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
> presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
>
> Baka naman BK will end up like MANG DONALDS (Mac Donalds).

Probably. Jollibee is way ahead of McDonalds because their ingredients
include soy sauce and garlic which appeals favorably to the Filipino
palate.

Are you over there in RP right now Ben? Last I heard was McDonalds in
the Philippines was trying to increase its market share by introducing a
burger similar to Jollibee's.

Burger King has had much success in other Asian countries that they
probably think they can make it in the Philippines.

tezza

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Burger King burgers are better than Jollibee or Maccas.


Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...


>Kardo wrote:
>>
>> The Associated Press via NewsEdge Corporation : Corporate eagles,
>> captains of industry, as well as sports stars lit up the spanking-new
>> Burger King outlet along UN Avenue recently.
>>
>> The occasion was the formal opening of the first Burger King
restaurant
>> in the city of Manila, and the atmosphere was literally burning with
>> excitement. Music specially selected for ``fire'' themes underscored
the
>> theme that BK burgers are the only flame-grilled hamburgers in town.
>>
>
>===========

>MY TURN:
>
>Mang Kardz ..., could this be an example of
>"Too Little, Too Late ???"
>
>Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
>the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
>presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
>
>Baka naman BK will end up like MANG DONALDS (Mac Donalds).
>
>
>

DSNdc

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The last thing, in my view, is that Manila needs another American fast-food
outlet. This is exactly the type of investment the Philippines can well do
without.
DS...@aol.com
Washington, DC

Johnny "Tubby" Thor

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Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
>

>Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
>the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
>presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
>


In my opinion, Jollibee can't be beaten in the Phils. Why not? Simple:
palabok. Their palabok is the best fast food palabok there is. I order three
of them and busog na ako.

Which reminds me: MC are you serving palabok at our date? No tricks, okey
dokey!

JT


amd...@hooked.net

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In article <352D84...@earthlink.net>,

"Benjamin L. Guadiz" <bl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Kardo wrote:
> >
> > The Associated Press via NewsEdge Corporation : Corporate eagles,
> > captains of industry, as well as sports stars lit up the spanking-new
> > Burger King outlet along UN Avenue recently.
> >
> > The occasion was the formal opening of the first Burger King restaurant
> > in the city of Manila, and the atmosphere was literally burning with
> > excitement. Music specially selected for ``fire'' themes underscored the
> > theme that BK burgers are the only flame-grilled hamburgers in town.
> >
>
> ===========
> MY TURN:
>
> Mang Kardz ..., could this be an example of
> "Too Little, Too Late ???"
>
> Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
> the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
> presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
>
> Baka naman BK will end up like MANG DONALDS (Mac Donalds).
>
> benjamin
> bl...@ix.netcom.com
> bl...@earthlink.net
> rcd...@i-manila.com.ph
> Colton, CA 92324
> USA
>

Around 10 years ago, Mc Donald's was only the third ranked hamburger chain.
Number one was Jolibee, then came Burger Machine. I miss being able to go out
late at night and grab a burger and a sans rival at Burger Machine.

BTW, wasn't there a Burger King in Quezon Blvd. (close to UST) a long time
ago?

BBQ

BBQ

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Pedro Penduko

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Manong Ben,
Maybe u could shed a light on this. The reason that Burger king was late in
introduction in the Philippines was because somebody else registered Burger
King as their trade name. I remember in the 70' at the Harrison Plaza, there
was a Burger place there called King Burger and I think in Avenida Rizal,
there was a Burger King stand also (local). I wander if Burger King (USA)
had to pay off some people so they can buy the trade name rights to their
own business. Hey, its a democracy down there too!
PP
tezza wrote in message <6gk409$npi$1...@nswpull.telstra.net>...

>Burger King burgers are better than Jollibee or Maccas.
>
>
>Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
>>Kardo wrote:
>>>
>>> in the city of Manila, and the atmosphere was >>> theme that BK

Pedro Penduko

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amd...@hooked.net

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In article <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>,

"Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
> >
> >Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
> >the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
> >presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
> >
>
> In my opinion, Jollibee can't be beaten in the Phils. Why not? Simple:
> palabok. Their palabok is the best fast food palabok there is. I order three
> of them and busog na ako.
>
> Which reminds me: MC are you serving palabok at our date? No tricks, okey
> dokey!
>
> JT
>
>

Three? Do you mean three bilaos? ;^)

Jojo

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You mean the old BURGER King stand in R.P. are really not affiliated with BURGER
King USA ??? .... Oh geez ... so that explains why I don't like their burgers
...


jojo
WhopperLover

Pedro Penduko wrote:

> Manong Ben,
> Maybe u could shed a light on this. The reason that Burger king was late in
> introduction in the Philippines was because somebody else registered Burger
> King as their trade name. I remember in the 70' at the Harrison Plaza, there
> was a Burger place there called King Burger and I think in Avenida Rizal,
> there was a Burger King stand also (local). I wander if Burger King (USA)
> had to pay off some people so they can buy the trade name rights to their
> own business. Hey, its a democracy down there too!
> PP
> tezza wrote in message <6gk409$npi$1...@nswpull.telstra.net>...
> >Burger King burgers are better than Jollibee or Maccas.
> >
> >

> >Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...

Rommel P. Feria

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Hello there!

DSNdc wrote:

Well, any type of investment, as long as it employs more Pinoys, are welcome,
IMHO.

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Pedro Penduko

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what are u talking about! Even my daughters who grew up here in Boston pins
for Jollibee's once in a while!

Jojo

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Burger Machine is not pure beef .... I liked then when i was still in
college , but then I used to walk along the sidewalks of Taft Avenue and found a
new favorite ... Wendy's ...
So what I usually do was instead of riding a jeepney after school was enjoy an
evening walk and use my fare to buy cheese burger and frequent the salad bar ...
Then I also found a "GOTOHAN" in front of the PGH and loved their goto but they
decided to put more water to it to make more money , thats when I stoped going
there since I no longer loved its taste ...


amd...@hooked.net wrote:

>
>
> Around 10 years ago, Mc Donald's was only the third ranked hamburger chain.
> Number one was Jolibee, then came Burger Machine. I miss being able to go out
> late at night and grab a burger and a sans rival at Burger Machine.
>
> BTW, wasn't there a Burger King in Quezon Blvd. (close to UST) a long time
> ago?
>
> BBQ
>

Pietro E Reyes, III

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Eric,

I believe you'll have your wish. Among the first of many many many Jollibee
outlets to be established in the US continent is the one near Daly City.
Can't remember whether the place was Serramonte.

I was in SFO last week and we visited a Jollibee outlet undergoing finishing
and should open very soon. They had a sign publishing their phone numbers
and announcing that they were accepting applications.

Wonder if they'll serve your favourite palabok...

Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote in message <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>...


>
>Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
>>

BENJAMIN L. GUADIZ

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In <6glcgk$6...@news.idx.com> "Pedro Penduko" <Pedrop...@hotmail.com>
writes:
>
>Manong Ben,
>Maybe u could shed a light on this. The reason that Burger king was
late in
>introduction in the Philippines was because somebody else registered
Burger
>King as their trade name. I remember in the 70' at the Harrison Plaza,
there
>was a Burger place there called King Burger and I think in Avenida
Rizal,
>there was a Burger King stand also (local). I wander if Burger King
(USA)
>had to pay off some people so they can buy the trade name rights to
their
>own business. Hey, its a democracy down there too!

==========
MY TURN:

YESSIR !!! I remember those locals as mentioned above.
Please allow me to contact my Malabon partidos and get
to the buttom of this. Pero sa aking palagay, I agree
with Manong Peete's opinion; it could be ONE OF THE
REASONS at saka it is within the realm of possibility.

Nagtatako PO ako mga kababayan dahil the first tayme ever
na nag-order ako ng Big Mac sa Pinas wuz in May, 1988.
That was T-E-N years ago IF we have to compare with
this recent outing ng Burker King sa Sariling Atin.

BENJAMIN L. GUADIZ

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In <199804100509...@ladder03.news.aol.com> ds...@aol.com

(DSNdc) writes:
>
>The last thing, in my view, is that Manila needs another American
fast-food
>outlet. This is exactly the type of investment the Philippines can
well do
>without.
>DS...@aol.com
>Washington, DC

========
AKO NAMAN:

Ipaputol kong leeg ko if they can honestly say the
BK investment was Pinas was all done in record time
and WITHOUT pabagsak/tong/lagay and irregularities
in the right places.

Hmmm ..., teka nga't, well, it's PPl,000,000 PLUS for
the pirma ni SIR; konting stocks for favored general;
"courtesy passes" sa mga hefe in the police district;
konting lamig and langis sa inspections, licensing,
financing, marketing; chix and pang-gud tayme money para
sa malaking sapsap; libreng weekend all-you-can-eat
treats sa family (legitimate and on-the-side) ni
Col. Purontong of the sekreta ...

Mga tugang, kapatid, kakabsat and friends, dagdagan
na lang PO ninyo yung listahan. KULANG PA IYAN !!!

Rommel P. Feria

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Hello there!

BENJAMIN L. GUADIZ wrote:

> ========
> AKO NAMAN:
>
> Ipaputol kong leeg ko if they can honestly say the
> BK investment was Pinas was all done in record time
> and WITHOUT pabagsak/tong/lagay and irregularities
> in the right places.

Well, I think Purefoods already did that with their previous outings and
that made it easier for them to setup Burger King.

Cheers!

R2C

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Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote:
>
> Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
> >
> >Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
> >the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
> >presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
> >
>
> In my opinion, Jollibee can't be beaten in the Phils. Why not? Simple:
> palabok. Their palabok is the best fast food palabok there is. I order three
> of them and busog na ako.

arrrrrrg. you made me drool. it's been *months* since I ate palabok!
And I can't find a single Filipino store in the city where I live! I
have to drive 30 miles to get palabok now!


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"Charbroiled Lemonhead Burger, fries, & Lemonade combo: only $3.95!"

R2C

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Pedro Penduko wrote:
>
> Manong Ben,
> Maybe u could shed a light on this. The reason that Burger king was late in
> introduction in the Philippines was because somebody else registered Burger
> King as their trade name. I remember in the 70' at the Harrison Plaza, there
> was a Burger place there called King Burger and I think in Avenida Rizal,
> there was a Burger King stand also (local). I wander if Burger King (USA)
> had to pay off some people so they can buy the trade name rights to their
> own business. Hey, its a democracy down there too!
> PP

I seem to remember a "Burger King" too in Robinson's dept store, in
Cebu. that was 7 years ago.

Benjamin L. Guadiz

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R2C wrote:
>
> Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote:
> >
> > Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
> > >
> > >
>
> arrrrrrg. you made me drool. it's been *months* since I ate palabok!
> And I can't find a single Filipino store in the city where I live! I
> have to drive 30 miles to get palabok now!
>

===========
MY TURN:

Kabagis Ron, CHOW KING serves palabok.
ENJOY it sa Seafood City, situated doon sa corner
of Azusa and Amar Streets, West Covina - all these
while watching those two-legged chix-mammals pass by.

Prices are very, very reasonable.

Benjamin L. Guadiz

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Jojo wrote:
>
> Burger Machine is not pure beef .... I liked then when i was still in
> college , but then I used to walk along the sidewalks of Taft Avenue and found a
> new favorite ... Wendy's ...

===========
MY THOUGHTS:

"... is not pure beef ..."

Mang Jojo, eh baka naman either it wuz a beef that didn't moo;
or a meat that used to kick; maybe karne that used to hop ...
or a "w-o-r-m burger". Alam ko meron ito noong araw doon sa
may Yunibersiti belt.

Tutoo kaya???

benjamin

Fred Amores

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---------------------------------------------------------------------
Perhaps, it's a carabeef(kalabaw at baka) which is a cheaper
combination. A kilo of cultured worm is more expensive than beef.
BTW,imported frozen beef from Australia is much cheaper than those
produce locally. Unfortunately, Aussie beef can not be sold in public
market to protect local producers. Imported beef meat are use for
manufacturing local-made corned beef, burgers ,etc.

Kabagis Ben, baka naman ibang klaseng karne iyon nasa university belt
noong araw.(-:)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


ren...@aol.com

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In article <352F64...@earthlink.net>,

"Benjamin L. Guadiz" <bl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> R2C wrote:
> >
> > Johnny "Tubby" Thor wrote:
> > >
> > > Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > arrrrrrg. you made me drool. it's been *months* since I ate palabok!
> > And I can't find a single Filipino store in the city where I live! I
> > have to drive 30 miles to get palabok now!
> >
>
> ===========
> MY TURN:
>
> Kabagis Ron, CHOW KING serves palabok.
> ENJOY it sa Seafood City, situated doon sa corner
> of Azusa and Amar Streets, West Covina - all these
> while watching those two-legged chix-mammals pass by.
>
> Prices are very, very reasonable.
>
> benjamin
> bl...@ix.netcom.com
> bl...@earthlink.net
> rcd...@i-manila.com.ph
> Colton, CA 92324
> USA
>

what? you mean you cant cook palabok in your own home?

ren...@aol.com

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In article <6gmjge$2...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,

bl...@ix.netcom.com(BENJAMIN L. GUADIZ) wrote:
>
> In <199804100509...@ladder03.news.aol.com> ds...@aol.com
> (DSNdc) writes:
> >
> >The last thing, in my view, is that Manila needs another American
> fast-food
> >outlet. This is exactly the type of investment the Philippines can
> well do
> >without.
> >DS...@aol.com
> >Washington, DC
>
> ========
> AKO NAMAN:
>
> Ipaputol kong leeg ko if they can honestly say the
> BK investment was Pinas was all done in record time
> and WITHOUT pabagsak/tong/lagay and irregularities
> in the right places.
>
> Hmmm ..., teka nga't, well, it's PPl,000,000 PLUS for
> the pirma ni SIR; konting stocks for favored general;
> "courtesy passes" sa mga hefe in the police district;
> konting lamig and langis sa inspections, licensing,
> financing, marketing; chix and pang-gud tayme money para
> sa malaking sapsap; libreng weekend all-you-can-eat
> treats sa family (legitimate and on-the-side) ni
> Col. Purontong of the sekreta ...
>
> Mga tugang, kapatid, kakabsat and friends, dagdagan
> na lang PO ninyo yung listahan. KULANG PA IYAN !!!
>
> benjamin
> bl...@ix.netcom.com
> bl...@earthlink.net
> rcd...@i-manila.com.ph
> Colton, CA 92324
> USA
>
>

Whats the big deal about another greasy unhealthy commercial burgerjoint in
the philippines? If you want burgers eat at jollibee

tezza

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Fred Amores wrote in message <352F82...@ix.netcom.com>...

>BTW,imported frozen beef from Australia is much cheaper than those
>produce locally. Unfortunately, Aussie beef can not be sold in public
>market to protect local producers. Imported beef meat are use for
>manufacturing local-made corned beef, burgers ,etc.


I saw some Aussie beef in one of the big supermarkets, but it looked
disgusting and was expensive. It was sitting in a pool of blood and
water, which would be illegal in Australia.

Yett

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Pietro E Reyes, III wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> I believe you'll have your wish. Among the first of many many many Jollibee
> outlets to be established in the US continent is the one near Daly City.
> Can't remember whether the place was Serramonte.

No, not Serramonte Shopping Mall. There's a plaza being built on El
Camino near the 'top of the hill' in Daly City. One of the building
will house the JB outlet, so I hear. It's a walking distance from
where I live. But why walk when you can run, right? :-)

--Yett

Tansong Isda

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ren...@aol.com wrote:

> what? you mean you cant cook palabok in your own home?

Unfortunately, it is the most elaborate of all pansit!! Mapalabok nga eh!!
The noodles alone has to be handled properly (done properly, I mean) or you'll
end up with soggy noodles.


R2C

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ren...@aol.com wrote:
>

>
> what? you mean you cant cook palabok in your own home?
>

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oh yeah, sure, duh. you can cook anything at home. problem with
amateur home cooking is. . .it never tastes as good as professionally
cooked meals!

hey, I can cut my own hair at home too, or pull out my tooth with
pliers. . .but just because once can do something at home, doesn't mean
one should.

Jose Dela Cruz

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In <35308FB4...@linkonline.net> Tansong Isda

<ta...@linkonline.net> writes:
>
>ren...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> what? you mean you cant cook palabok in your own home?
>
>Unfortunately, it is the most elaborate of all pansit!! Mapalabok nga
eh!!
>The noodles alone has to be handled properly (done properly, I mean)
or you'll
>end up with soggy noodles.
>

It gets soggy when the noodles were over boiled. Also, the sauce should
be thicker, so add more flour. And this tip from my wife, use
vermicelli (looks like spaghetti, only thinner - Golden Grain Mission
brand) for the noodles or at least 50% of noodles you use for the
recipe. This vermicelli can also be use as substitute for any pansit
recipe. It is cheaper and easy to prepare. This usually surprise our
guests when they found out it's vermicelli. By the way, my wife cooked
palabok today. This is what I ate for lunch and dinner. She a real
good cook.

Mojack

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>Pietro E Reyes, III wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I believe you'll have your wish. Among the first of many many many Jollibee
>> outlets to be established in the US continent is

What are the other US cities?


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In article <35311B5B...@uss.enterprise>,

r...@uss.enterprise wrote:
>
> ren...@aol.com wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > what? you mean you cant cook palabok in your own home?
> >
well it aint my fault that you dont know how to cook

amd...@hooked.net

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In article <6gvu32$620$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
faby...@aol.com wrote:

> well it aint my fault that you dont know how to cook


Hey Ron!

Someone's baiting you!

BBQ

Johnny "Tubby" Thor

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amd...@hooked.net wrote in message <6glhv8$l6q$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...


>In article <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>,
> "Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>

>> I order three
>> of them and busog na ako.
>

>Three? Do you mean three bilaos? ;^)
>
>BBQ
>


No I don't eat bilao. Too tough for my dentures. MC, do you?

JT
EnjoyingBrekkyInSunnyLongBeach

R2C

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amd...@hooked.net wrote:
>
> In article <6gvu32$620$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> faby...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > well it aint my fault that you dont know how to cook
>
> Hey Ron!
>
> Someone's baiting you!
>

from the 3 pathetic baits I've seen, I say this dork is a BJ wannabe.
They're all useless one-liners. And compared to BJ's one liners (which
really sucked), this AOHELL user's one-liner's suck even more. Not sure
yet whether he's worth my time roasting. . .heck, I got 2 hours before I
snooz. . .I'll flip a coin:

...heads, I nuke him, tails. . .forget it:

*flip!* (flipping quarter)


*bing!* (quarter lands)

It landed tails. Even the Law Of Probability considers it a waste of
time and ammo to roast him now.

So, listen you amateur AOHELL user, if you want to get roasted, you're
gonna have to do better than childish one-liners. I mean, look at the
recent criteria of why I roasted people here: renowl-->posts totally
ridiculous idea of "clinton for rp pres", Lemonhead-->it's fun roasting
him, Mediabacla-->thinks he is better than other Filipinos coz of his
little exclusive "club", BJ-->someone wanted to see him lechonized. So
far, you're qualifications of ass-roasting fall short. Attempting to
insult me is useless, I've trained myself not to be offended by such
amateur attempts at flaming. Bottom line: I flame for fun and
entertainment, or flame really stupid people who post really stupid
things (mediabacla, renowl).

So the question is: Will I have fun flaming you? Have you posted
something totally stupid?

Answer: not yet.

suggestion: try harder.

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Tansong Isda

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Jose Dela Cruz wrote:

> It gets soggy when the noodles were over boiled. Also, the sauce should
> be thicker, so add more flour. And this tip from my wife, use
> vermicelli (looks like spaghetti, only thinner - Golden Grain Mission
> brand) for the noodles or at least 50% of noodles you use for the
> recipe. This vermicelli can also be use as substitute for any pansit
> recipe. It is cheaper and easy to prepare. This usually surprise our
> guests when they found out it's vermicelli. By the way, my wife cooked
> palabok today. This is what I ate for lunch and dinner. She a real
> good cook.

Nah...I'd rather use real palabok noodles, it's made out of rice.
Vermicelli is OK if you can't handle ten minutes or less boiling. That's
all it takes to do it right, less time.
My technique is to use what the French calls shrimp wine, and rice powder
for the sauce. You can buy this stuff if you don't know how to make it.


MARtin

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Tansong Isda wrote in message <353465F3...@linkonline.net>...
-----------------------------
And don't ever ever use plain water to boil the noodles---gamitin ang
pinagpakuluang buto-buto and taste the difference!


Jojo

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MARtin wrote:

> And don't ever ever use plain water to boil the noodles---gamitin ang
> pinagpakuluang buto-buto and taste the difference!

Wow sounds delicious !!!


Tansong Isda

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MARtin wrote:

> -----------------------------


> And don't ever ever use plain water to boil the noodles---gamitin ang
> pinagpakuluang buto-buto and taste the difference!

Good idea...will do.


ma_c...@yahoo.com

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In article <6h08jn$g...@news.microsoft.com>,

"Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> amd...@hooked.net wrote in message <6glhv8$l6q$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >In article <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>,
> > "Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I order three
> >> of them and busog na ako.
> >
> >Three? Do you mean three bilaos? ;^)
> >
> >BBQ
> >
>
> No I don't eat bilao. Too tough for my dentures. MC, do you?
***************
what are those???

>
> JT
> EnjoyingBrekkyInSunnyLongBeach
MC
BrokeFromDisneyHotel

ma_c...@yahoo.com

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In article <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>,
"Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Benjamin L. Guadiz wrote in message <352D84...@earthlink.net>...
> >
> >Ang pagka-intindi ko'y this Jollibee has almost cornered
> >the Philippine palate for fast foods, partly dahil sa their
> >presented menu was specifically geared for the locals' taste.
> >
>
> In my opinion, Jollibee can't be beaten in the Phils. Why not? Simple:
> palabok. Their palabok is the best fast food palabok there is. I order three

> of them and busog na ako.
>
> Which reminds me: MC are you serving palabok at our date? No tricks, okey
> dokey!
*****************
huh??? so what if i do?

>
> JT
mc

amd...@hooked.net

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In article <6h5ao4$fc6$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
ma_c...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> In article <6h08jn$g...@news.microsoft.com>,

> "Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > No I don't eat bilao. Too tough for my dentures. MC, do you?
> ***************
> what are those???
>
> >
> > JT
> > EnjoyingBrekkyInSunnyLongBeach
> MC
> BrokeFromDisneyHotel

A bilao is the large, flat, round basket that they serve the palabok on. Tubby
needs to eat three bilaos of pancit to be satisfied.

BBQ

Johnny "Tubby" Thor

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ma_c...@yahoo.com wrote in message <6h5f7r$mr5$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <6gkjuh$q...@news.microsoft.com>,


> "Johnny \"Tubby\" Thor" <Johnn...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>

>> Which reminds me: MC are you serving palabok at our date? No tricks, okey
>> dokey!
>*****************
>huh??? so what if i do?
>


What I mean by no tricks is don't use ketchup for palabok sauce. And make
sure you use real grounded chicharon. Yumm!

JT
35GigsIn24Days


Dirty Sick Puppy

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What in heaven's name is grounded chicaron? Is it better than ground chicharon?

MARtin

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Dirty Sick Puppy wrote in message
<3543C7EF...@filthy.kennel.com>...
:What in heaven's name is grounded chicaron? Is it better than
ground chicharon?
:


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Oh yesss!!! Wala itong static electricity.


kadiwara

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Grounded chicharon is na-hoyong chicharon. Ground chicharon is chicharon na
down to earth na kagaya ni Ron Chicharon. hahahahahahaha. Hayup sa rhyming
puede itong lagyan ng melody. LOL

MARtin <t.t...@innocent.com> wrote in article <3543e946.0@carrera>...

ManongKiko

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>Dirty Sick Puppy <drtys...@filthy.kennel.com>
>Date: Sun, Apr 26, 1998 19:49 EDT
>Message-id: <3543C7EF...@filthy.kennel.com>

>
>What in heaven's name is grounded chicaron? Is it better than ground
>chicharon?
>

What immediately comes to my mind is the La Paz Batchoy in Iloilo City. This is
a soup that has noodle, meat, and grounded chicharon. It tastes very delicious
...yummy yummy.


R2C

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kadiwara wrote:
>
> Grounded chicharon is na-hoyong chicharon. Ground chicharon is chicharon na
> down to earth na kagaya ni Ron Chicharon. hahahahahahaha. Hayup sa rhyming
> puede itong lagyan ng melody. LOL
>

ok, *can't* resist, here goes:

(sung in the tune of the chorus of: "Be My Baby" by the Ronnettes)

(chorus)

Ron Ron Chicharo-ni,
Ron Ron Chicharo-ni!
oh please do not flame me!

Ron Ron Chicharo-ni,
Fla-ming Ron Chicharo-ni,
he sounds a little crazy!

Ron Ron Chicharo-ni,
manang says "stop fantasizing!"
"stop being obsessed with me!!!"

(repeat)

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Bambam Q.

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kadiwara wrote:

> Grounded chicharon is na-hoyong chicharon. Ground chicharon is chicharon na
> down to earth na kagaya ni Ron Chicharon. hahahahahahaha. Hayup sa rhyming
> puede itong lagyan ng melody. LOL
>

Mali!!! Grounded ChichaRon is Ron Calderon being punished by his parents for
flamming renowl and lemmonpie's butts.

--
Pinagpipitagan,

Bambam Q.

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"Work is the curse of the drinking class."
- Oscar Wilde

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Dirty Sick Puppy

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I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to sample
familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo, chicharones,
menudo, tamles, etc.). However, the Tex-Mex people have nothing even remotely
resembling Chicharon Bulaklak. I wonder how they take their excellent Dos Equis
Cerveza? They're missing a lot. BTW, thanks for the humorous responses to my
idiotic posting below.

Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:

> What in heaven's name is grounded chicaron <sic>? Is it better than ground
> chicharon?
>

kardo

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Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:
>
> I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to sample
> familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo, chicharones,
> menudo, tamles, etc.). However, the Tex-Mex people have nothing even remotely
> resembling Chicharon Bulaklak. I wonder how they take their excellent Dos Equis
> Cerveza? They're missing a lot. BTW, thanks for the humorous responses to my
> idiotic posting below.
>

Dos Equis? How could you drink that stupp? The cerveza mas fina es
Corona, or better yet Simpatico. Hey DSP, is it true there are laws
that prohibit drinking alcoholic beverages on Sundays over yonder in
certain parts of Texas?

Bambam Q.

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Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:

> I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to sample
> familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo, chicharones,

> menudo.....

Were these dishes really from Mexico, or were they from Spain?

Jojo

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Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?

Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from Asia...

Bambam Q.

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Jojo wrote:

> Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
>
> Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from Asia...

Good point! Is the Mexican adobo made with soy sauce too? I've had it before, but I
don't remember what's in it.

r2c...@aol.com

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adobo sound soo spanish a word to be asian


In article <35460A89...@nowhere.com>,


Jojo <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
>
> Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from
Asia...
>

> Bambam Q. wrote:
>
> > Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:
> >
> > > I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to sample
> > > familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo,
chicharones,
> > > menudo.....
> >
> > Were these dishes really from Mexico, or were they from Spain?
> >

> > --
> > Pinagpipitagan,
> >
> > Bambam Q.
> >
> > http://www.hooked.net/~amdg85/
> >
> > "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
> > - Oscar Wilde
> >
> > **To reply by email, remove "nospam" from my email address**
>
>

animator

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I'm not keen about that ... coz whenever we put up a pot lock ... the
request of my mexican friends is our adobo at pansit. As far as these
friends of mine are concerned, it's a filipino specialty they couldn't
mimic.

kadiwara wrote in message <6i60um$3cp$4...@gte2.gte.net>...
>Adobo is originally from Mexico, the Chinese in the Philippines improved
>it. Same thing with menudo(although not originally from Mexico), which is a
>soupy food but became a stew in the Phil.
>
>Jojo <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote in article <35460A89...@nowhere.com>...

MARtin

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http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~rav6t/Stuff.html

OdE tO a FrEsH PoT oF RiCe

written by Romeo Villanueva, Lisa Gambito, Teddy
Cordero, and Roselyn Pacson


Oh how I love a fresh pot of rice
Its hot, its steamy, with adobo it is nice.

I like it sticky, and not to dry
I've been taught that way, don't ask me why!

I rinsed you and washed you and measured you with my finger!
Your aroma and taste will always linger...

I need rice in order to survive
it keeps me healthy, it keeps me alive

I eat you with my hands, and not with a fork
My roommate jokes me, he thinks I'm a dork!!!

I like it white, and I like it fried!!
but it doesn't matter cuz I got FILIPINO PRIDE

And to all of you, my filipino and fellow friends
Use the Real Rice, and not UNCLE BEN'S!

Isip Bata

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Bambam Q. wrote in message <354622FA...@hooked.net>...


>
>
>Jojo wrote:
>
>> Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
>>
>> Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
>> I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from
Asia...
>

>Good point! Is the Mexican adobo made with soy sauce too? I've had it
before, but I
>don't remember what's in it.
>
>--
>Pinagpipitagan,
>
>Bambam Q.
>

Adobo is a uniquely Filipino dish reflecting Chinese (soysauce) and Spanish
(garlic) influence. It's primary ingredients are garlic and vinegar.
Soysauce is not as essential to adobo as the first two ingredients
mentioned, since adobo can be cooked wih patis or just plain salt.

Cooked with bagoong it becomes Binagoongan (drool).
Other variations would be adobo sa gata (using chicken) and
adobong batangas (using beef, no soysauce).

Mexican adobo or menudo resembles neither Spanish or Filipino cooking since
it lacks the very essential ingredient:
Garlic.

Please don't ask me for recipes, since I cook by "ouido".

Isip Bata
AdoboAddict


kadiwara

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Adobo is originally from Mexico, the Chinese in the Philippines improved
it. Same thing with menudo(although not originally from Mexico), which is a
soupy food but became a stew in the Phil.

Jojo <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote in article <35460A89...@nowhere.com>...

> Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
>
> Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from
Asia...
>

kadiwara

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I never seen or tasted a Mexican food named adobo. Maybe you are referring
to the Mexican food named adobado?

kadiwara <kadi...@gte.net> wrote in article <6i60um$3cp$4...@gte2.gte.net>...

ManongKiko

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Ang pinakamalasa na adobo na natikman ko ay luto ng mga taga Thailand. Sa
palagay ko, ang originator ng adobo ay Asian dahil pangkariniwan ito na pagkain
sa kanila. Sarisaring uri nga lang dahil iyung iba ay sobra ang alat, sobra ang
rekado, sobra ang anghang, saka sobra ang sarap.

Maari din na ang Adobo ay galing sa wikang Kastila pero palagay ko ay hangang
sa salita lang at hindi talaga iyung pamaraan kung paano ito gagawin.Hindi rin
yata dahil wala naman sa diksyonaryo ng Kastila. Kung Mehikano naman ay malayo
din at lalo pang masagwang pakingan dahil ang pinaka malapit na tunog nito ay
iyung Adobe lang na sangkap para sa pagtayo ng bahay. Maryosep, hindi pagkain
iyan. Kaya tapos ang yugto, ang Adobo ay pagkaing Filipino....yum yum.


Jojo

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I guess Renowl havent heard about the Abakada/Alibata....

A e i o u
Ba be bi bo bu
Ka ke ki ko ku
Da de di do du

;-)

r2c...@aol.com wrote:

> adobo sound soo spanish a word to be asian
>
> In article <35460A89...@nowhere.com>,
> Jojo <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >

> > Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
> >
> > Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> > I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from
> Asia...
> >
> > Bambam Q. wrote:
> >
> > > Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to sample
> > > > familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo,
> chicharones,
> > > > menudo.....
> > >
> > > Were these dishes really from Mexico, or were they from Spain?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pinagpipitagan,
> > >
> > > Bambam Q.
> > >
> > > http://www.hooked.net/~amdg85/
> > >
> > > "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
> > > - Oscar Wilde
> > >
> > > **To reply by email, remove "nospam" from my email address**
> >
> >
>

Jojo

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I haven't tasted the Mexican version .. As a matter of fact I was even surprised when I
found a mexican adobo mix in Wisconsin when I went there ....

Like you I was kinda surprised and wonder if adobo was authentic Asian until I thought
of the toyo ...

Bambam Q. wrote:

> Jojo wrote:
>
> > Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
> >
> > Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> > I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from Asia...
>

> Good point! Is the Mexican adobo made with soy sauce too? I've had it before, but I
> don't remember what's in it.
>

Jojo

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kadiwara wrote:

> Adobo is originally from Mexico, the Chinese in the Philippines improved
> it. Same thing with menudo(although not originally from Mexico), which is a
> soupy food but became a stew in the Phil.
>
> Jojo <jo...@nowhere.com> wrote in article <35460A89...@nowhere.com>...

> > Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
> >
> > Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> > I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from
> Asia...
> >

> > Bambam Q. wrote:
> >
> > > Dirty Sick Puppy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I reside 40 minutes from the Mexican border in Texas and I get to
> sample
> > > > familiar-sounding dishes in their original Mexican versions (adobo,
> chicharones,
> > > > menudo.....
> > >
> > > Were these dishes really from Mexico, or were they from Spain?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pinagpipitagan,
> > >
> > > Bambam Q.
> > >

> > > **To reply by email, remove "nospam" from my email address**
> >
> >
> >
> >

There seems to be a mixed opinion on this ...Kadiwara sez that the Mexican
thought it was Filipino dish .Manong Kiks sez he believe it came from Asia and
tasted different version with varying degree of saltines and spiciness ....
Isip Bata mentioned that the garlic was also the main ingredient to the dish
which was also found in Asia during the spice trades , Soya Sauce on my opinion
is what makes it "adobo" which comes from Asia too ..

If there is no Asian garlic , Asian soya sauce ... What would be the original
ingredients for the "mexican adobo ?"... hmmmmmm... Vinegar ? ... Wouldn't
that adobo taste more like "paksiw" ;-) ..... (drool drool , takam takam )

Did the dish came from Mexico, Or was a valiant "conquistador" brough the dish
and ingredients from "Inang Bayan" to Mexico ?

Shall we go on a historic voyage back in time to seek the origin of that now so
famous adobo ? ;-)...

Any SCF historian, culinary expert, overweight guys, or "retired guys who got
nothing better to do" ;-) want to join the quest for the origin of the
historic adobo ?

Remember the famous Quote ....

"The truth is out there ..... " (hidden in the X-files)

And

"The truth shall make you hungry !!!!"

Tansong Isda

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Apr 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/29/98
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Jojo wrote:

> Adobo .... what is the primary ingredient ?
>
> Soy Sauce which comes from Asia !!!!!
> I think this dish (which is the national dish for R.P) came first from Asia...
>

To clear adobo mystery, Filipino adobo is Chinese in origin and the Spaniards called it
adobo, however, the Spanish version is nowhere near Filipino style, although the word is
Spanish, the dishes from Spain, Mexico and Philippines are all different from each
other!!


Jojo

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Apr 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM4/30/98
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Hmmm interesting .... How come that the Chinese doesn't usually include this with their
usual traditional menu ? ... Fil-Chinese aye ???

Albulario

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May 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/1/98
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As an aside, adobo became an official US Navy menu. It is not surprising considering
the number of Pinoy cooks in the USN.

--
DocCG


Tansong Isda

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May 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/2/98
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Jojo wrote:

> Hmmm interesting .... How come that the Chinese doesn't usually include this with their
> usual traditional menu ? ... Fil-Chinese aye ???

Probably, anyway....
Chinese population in the Philippines has a dish in which they include (the only
difference between Filipino Adobo and that) dried lotus flowers and a couple of laurel leaves.

A little sugar also makes the dish kind a different.


jeruto...@gmail.com

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Aug 14, 2018, 6:10:44 AM8/14/18
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Wow.... I'm 11 years old when you started this group chat and look after 20 years, Jollibee owns the majority share of Burger King Philippine Franchise...I love reading your comments and clearly there was no troll in 1998!

sha.pa...@gmail.com

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Oct 5, 2019, 7:02:21 AM10/5/19
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On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 6:10:44 PM UTC+8, jeruto...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wow.... I'm 11 years old when you started this group chat and look after 20 years, Jollibee owns the majority share of Burger King Philippine Franchise...I love reading your comments and clearly there was no troll in 1998!

I wasnt even alive yet when this thread started lmao but this greatly aided me in my upcoming BK report, thanks a lot folks!
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