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Dec 29, 1994, 1:48:40 PM12/29/94
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Dave Titong Bercades (berc...@oregon.uoregon.edu) wrote:

> Excellent start for a new thread! I do believe that Jesus' only pet peeve was
> people desecrating His Father's house. That was the only time He was ever
> driven to violence.

> Dave

yeah... your right on that kind of sense... He actually kick some stuff
around... because ppl. were selling stuff in the temple!!! Hmmm... There
has to be more...
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Dec 29, 1994, 12:09:04 PM12/29/94
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I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...
what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
state that clearly in the bible.

Thanks N Advance!!! =)


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Bobby Factura

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Dec 29, 1994, 2:01:21 PM12/29/94
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In article <3duqfg$f...@nic-nac.CSU.net>, hbcs...@huey.csun.edu (F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano) writes:
|>
|> I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...
|> what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
|> state that clearly in the bible.
|>

practicing on His miracles .... just to make sure everything's "perfect" ;-)

- Bobby

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Dave Titong Bercades

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Dec 29, 1994, 1:28:31 PM12/29/94
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In article <3duqfg$f...@nic-nac.CSU.net>, hbcs...@huey.csun.edu (F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano) writes:
>
>I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...
>what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
>state that clearly in the bible.
>
>Thanks N Advance!!! =)

Excellent start for a new thread! I do believe that Jesus' only pet peeve was


people desecrating His Father's house. That was the only time He was ever
driven to violence.

Dave
berc...@oregon.uoregon.edu

Jacinto D. Maquera

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Dec 30, 1994, 3:13:03 AM12/30/94
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F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano (hbcs...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:

: I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...


: what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
: state that clearly in the bible.

: Thanks N Advance!!! =)

Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In
fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
say about that.

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alba_humphrey

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Dec 30, 1994, 11:47:19 AM12/30/94
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In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:

]F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano (hbcs...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:
]
]: I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...
]: what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
]: state that clearly in the bible.
]
]: Thanks N Advance!!! =)
]
]Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In
]fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
]character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
]say about that.
]

ok, so you succeeded in getting a response.
a thing? Jesus was celibate in His entire human life, and
still is. mary magdalen was formerly a prostitute,
repented and became a follower of jesus.
to brand her still as prostitute is unfair to her.
jesus chose her to show the world that He is calling sinners
to Him, for them to repent. and that everyone have sinned, and
not only her.

pet peeves? ok, so we're still young.
He performed many miracles.
He preached.
He fasted and prayed.

Mihali Felipe

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Dec 30, 1994, 12:05:56 PM12/30/94
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In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net> ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:
>
>Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In
>fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
>character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
>say about that.
>Z ja...@kuentos.guam.net Z


I'm not in the "anti-Kris Aquino crowd" although I think she looks
ridiculous when she tries to cry-act. She's smiling at the same time,
for goodness sake! Give her another career.

Can you support your statements by quotes from the bible?
i.e. Mary Magdalen - prostitute - Jesus having a "thing" for her.


- Mihali


Mike Paredes

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Dec 30, 1994, 2:58:30 PM12/30/94
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> ok, so you succeeded in getting a response.
> a thing? Jesus was celibate in His entire human life, and
> still is. mary magdalen was formerly a prostitute,
> repented and became a follower of jesus.
> to brand her still as prostitute is unfair to her.
> jesus chose her to show the world that He is calling sinners
> to Him, for them to repent. and that everyone have sinned, and
> not only her.
>
> pet peeves? ok, so we're still young.
> He performed many miracles.
> He preached.
> He fasted and prayed.

So I take it you disagree with "The Last Temptation of Christ?"

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Dec 31, 1994, 5:44:07 PM12/31/94
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In article <3duqfg$f...@nic-nac.CSU.net> hbcs...@huey.csun.edu (F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano) writes:
>
>I was just wondering what were some of Jesus' favorite things to do...
>what were his pet peeves. I'm just only wondering because they don't
>state that clearly in the bible.
>

What's in the bible is all that we need to know. If we don't find certain
things in the bible then it's not an important factor in life. Well, happy
new year!

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Jacinto D. Maquera

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Jan 2, 1995, 3:12:19 AM1/2/95
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alba_humphrey (al...@sunrise.forge.tandem.com) wrote:

: In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:
: ]F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano (hbcs...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:

: ]
: ]
: ]Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In

: ]fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
: ]character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
: ]say about that.
: ]

: ok, so you succeeded in getting a response.
: a thing? Jesus was celibate in His entire human life, and
: still is. mary magdalen was formerly a prostitute,
: repented and became a follower of jesus.
: to brand her still as prostitute is unfair to her.

if jesus died a virgin, that's his problem. secondly, i am not
condemning mary magdalen for being a prostitute - former or otherwise.
the point i was trying to get across was that perhaps mary magdalen -
instead the virgin mary - serves as a better model for us frail mortals.
and perhaps the "holier than thou" crowd could be more forgiving towards
kris aquino. people will sin. people also need to forgive.

:
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Jacinto D. Maquera

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Jan 2, 1995, 3:23:26 AM1/2/95
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Mihali Felipe (mih...@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net> ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:


: I'm not in the "anti-Kris Aquino crowd" although I think she looks


: ridiculous when she tries to cry-act. She's smiling at the same time,
: for goodness sake! Give her another career.

How is this relevant?

: Can you support your statements by quotes from the bible?

: i.e. Mary Magdalen - prostitute - Jesus having a "thing" for her.

Actually, I don't even have a bible anymore, so i cannot cite specific
passages, as you requested. But I did read large protions of it for Lit.
class (King James version). Also, I was a philosophy major, so i understandably had to cover a lot of theological
material - Augustine, Aquinas and all that sh-t. My understanding was
that my professors were world reknowned and recognized authorities in
their respective fields. One was even given the task of translating large
sections of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

To all of them, that Jesus had a "thing" for mary magdalen was
standard interpretation. And sorry, but their opinions carry more weight
with me than yours.

: - Mihali


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Jan 2, 1995, 12:54:00 PM1/2/95
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In article <1995Jan02....@kuentos.guam.net> ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:

>Mihali Felipe (mih...@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote:
>
>: I'm not in the "anti-Kris Aquino crowd" although I think she looks
>: ridiculous when she tries to cry-act. She's smiling at the same time,
>: for goodness sake! Give her another career.
>
> How is this relevant?

It's an opinion, and I'm entitled to have one. The way I stated it clearly
shows that it's a personal opinion and not based on some fact. How is this
relevant? Didn't you direct your previous post to the "anti-Kris Aquino
crowd?" And didn't I just read you're a philosophy major...

>: Can you support your statements by quotes from the bible?
>: i.e. Mary Magdalen - prostitute - Jesus having a "thing" for her.
>
> Actually, I don't even have a bible anymore, so i cannot cite specific
>passages, as you requested. But I did read large protions of it for Lit.
>class (King James version). Also, I was a philosophy major, so i understandably had to cover a lot of theological
>material - Augustine, Aquinas and all that sh-t. My understanding was
>that my professors were world reknowned and recognized authorities in
>their respective fields. One was even given the task of translating large
>sections of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
> To all of them, that Jesus had a "thing" for mary magdalen was
>standard interpretation. And sorry, but their opinions carry more weight
>with me than yours.

Ooooooh. This guy is getting personal. Hahaha. So I get it that you can't
support your statements. What good are your statements if you can't support
them? Better make it clear that you're expressing an opinion of yours based
on an opinion of others (phew) and that you're not basing it firsthand on
some references.


- Mihali

Sal Estrada

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Jan 2, 1995, 3:27:28 PM1/2/95
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In <3e9ejo$k...@news.cs.tulane.edu> mih...@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Mihali Felipe)
writes in response to article <1995Jan02....@kuentos.guam.net>
ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera):

>> To all of them, that Jesus had a "thing" for mary magdalen was
>>standard interpretation. And sorry, but their opinions carry more weight
>>with me than yours.
>
>Ooooooh. This guy is getting personal. Hahaha. So I get it that you can't
>support your statements. What good are your statements if you can't support
>them? Better make it clear that you're expressing an opinion of yours based
>on an opinion of others (phew) and that you're not basing it firsthand on
>some references.

There is nothing in the bible that I am aware of that even suggests that JC might
have had a "thing" for MM. Perhaps Jacinto was referencing the Broadway musical
Jesus Christ Superstar or one of the many movies about the life of JC. Sometimes
when you watch one of these productions, it gets confusing what is fact and what
is Hollywood. Hope this helps.

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Deer Hunter

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Jan 2, 1995, 11:09:02 PM1/2/95
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Mike Paredes (juan...@hcc.hawaii.edu) wrote:

: <*> oops, that's enough logical ramblings for me. I better take care of
: this cold... *sniff* *sniff* :)

Mike - have some of Rhett's medicine. It seems to be working...:)

Joyce T.
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joy...@netcom.com


Mike Paredes

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Jan 2, 1995, 9:24:23 PM1/2/95
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(Mihali Felipe) wrote:

Mihali,

One thing that people often do when they cannot defend their arguments
is appeal to an authority. This is one of the major FALLACIES OF
RELEVANCE. These are fallacies that are weak in reasoning. If the guy is
a philo major, he should know this.

Although it is better to appeal to RELEVANT AUTHORITIES than IRRELEVANT
AUTHORITIES, one still faces the same inference problem: the reasons that
the authority has for endorsing something is the most relevant issue at
this point.

If you want to stay on track with your argument, you must discuss and
learn about the evidence that your authority uses in their endorsements.
In this case, Jacinto is standing on very weak ground when he says he
takes his instructors' words on it.

<*> oops, that's enough logical ramblings for me. I better take care of
this cold... *sniff* *sniff* :)

--

Deer Hunter

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Jan 2, 1995, 11:14:59 PM1/2/95
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Jacinto D. Maquera (ja...@kuentos.guam.net) wrote:

: Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In

: fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
: character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
: say about that.

"Anti-Kris Aquino crowd?" Hang on a sec, I don't think most of us
are anti-Kris. There's just some of us who are against premarital sex.
That doesn't mean we hate her. In fact, I feel sorry for her - heard
she's having a rough time.

Joyce T.
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joy...@netcom.com


REDjina

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Jan 2, 1995, 11:15:23 PM1/2/95
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:Broadway musical Jesus Christ Superstar or one of the many movies about

:the life of JC. Sometimes when you watch one of these productions, it
:gets confusing what is fact and what is Hollywood. Hope this helps.
: Sal Estrada
: Cupertino, CA


Broadway productions are a way of entertainment in this TIME ...

Telling stories were a way of entertainment during that TIME
to them that would be BROADWAY production ...
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alba_humphrey

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Jan 3, 1995, 11:31:35 AM1/3/95
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In article <1995Jan02....@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:

]alba_humphrey (al...@sunrise.forge.tandem.com) wrote:
]
]: In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:
]: ]F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano (hbcs...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:
]: ]
]: ]
]: ]Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In
]: ]fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
]: ]character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
]: ]say about that.
]: ]
]
]: ok, so you succeeded in getting a response.
]: a thing? Jesus was celibate in His entire human life, and
]: still is. mary magdalen was formerly a prostitute,
]: repented and became a follower of jesus.
]: to brand her still as prostitute is unfair to her.
]
] if jesus died a virgin, that's his problem.


nobody is saying it's your problem.


]secondly, i am not
]condemning mary magdalen for being a prostitute - former or otherwise.
]the point i was trying to get across was that perhaps mary magdalen -
]instead the virgin mary - serves as a better model for us frail mortals.
]and perhaps the "holier than thou" crowd could be more forgiving towards
]kris aquino.


what's your problem? not your problem. it's kris' problem.
you have many problem?


]people will sin. people also need to forgive.
]
]:
]--

Evan Villarivera

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Jan 5, 1995, 7:55:52 PM1/5/95
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> if jesus died a virgin, that's his problem. secondly, i am not
>condemning mary magdalen for being a prostitute - former or otherwise.
>the point i was trying to get across was that perhaps mary magdalen -
>instead the virgin mary - serves as a better model for us frail mortals.
>and perhaps the "holier than thou" crowd could be more forgiving towards
>kris aquino. people will sin. people also need to forgive.
>

First of all I don't see how Jeus died as a virgin be a problem. It is in
our human nature to sin, that why we need Jesus to be in our hearts.
Temptations are all around us! Yes it's true that we should have more
compassion for Kris Aquino. What we should do is pray for her and hope that
she will realize what she has done is wrong.

God Bless!

Rhett Valino Pascual

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Jan 6, 1995, 5:57:27 PM1/6/95
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Ok, jesus died a virgin. but, did he entertain himself while he was
man? i still don't understand how you could say he was a virgin. just
because the bible did not say that he ever screwed someone doesn't prove
he was a virgin.

besides, i don't remember the bible saying he went to the restroom does not
mean that he did not take a shit.

just me being the man who brings up irrelevant things.
SOCREtong
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Timothy Jehl -FT-~

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Jan 6, 1995, 6:31:34 PM1/6/95
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In article <3ekhsn$n...@agate.berkeley.edu>, gldn...@uclink.berkeley.edu (Rhett Valino Pascual) writes:
>
> Ok, jesus died a virgin. but, did he entertain himself while he was
> man? i still don't understand how you could say he was a virgin. just
> because the bible did not say that he ever screwed someone doesn't prove
> he was a virgin.

Well, given that, at that time, sex outside of marriage as well as
"self gratification" were considered to be sinful behaviors, I suppose
it might depend on whether or not you felt that Jesus was subject to not
only temptation, but to sin as well.

>
> besides, i don't remember the bible saying he went to the restroom does not
> mean that he did not take a shit.

It also doesn't say whether or not he was an astronaut, but that doesn't
mean that he took regular flights to Mars (much more fashionalbe to discuss
today than lunar landings).

>
> just me being the man who brings up irrelevant things.

It's a talent.

> SOCREtong
> --
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Rhett Valino Pascual

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Jan 7, 1995, 2:08:31 PM1/7/95
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Si Kumareng Joyce naman... But I was reading about that stuff of fallacy
due to an appeal to authority. According to this MCAT book, there are
ten ways which you may sound correct but you are actually wrong because
the premises you have is wrong or unsupportable.

But here's another question: Do they have sex in heaven?

SocREtong
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JENNELYN J FAJARDO

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In article <D1u8K...@tandem.com> al...@tower.tandem.com writes:
>
>In article <1995Jan02....@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:
>]alba_humphrey (al...@sunrise.forge.tandem.com) wrote:
>]
>]: In article <1994Dec30.0...@kuentos.guam.net>, ja...@kuentos.guam.net (Jacinto D. Maquera) writes:
>]: ]F.B.I. Special Agent Louie G. Soriano (hbcs...@huey.csun.edu) wrote:
>]: ]
>]: ]
>]: ]Well, He seemed to have a thing for Mary Magdalen, a prostitute. In
>]: ]fact, next to his mom, Magdalen seemed the most significant female
>]: ]character in his life. I wonder what the anti-Kris Aquino crowd have to
>]: ]say about that.
>]: ]
>]
>]: ok, so you succeeded in getting a response.
>]: a thing? Jesus was celibate in His entire human life, and
>]: still is. mary magdalen was formerly a prostitute,
>]: repented and became a follower of jesus.
>]: to brand her still as prostitute is unfair to her.
>]
>] if jesus died a virgin, that's his problem.
>
>
> nobody is saying it's your problem.
>
>
>]secondly, i am not
>]condemning mary magdalen for being a prostitute - former or otherwise.
>]the point i was trying to get across was that perhaps mary magdalen -
>]instead the virgin mary - serves as a better model for us frail mortals.
>]and perhaps the "holier than thou" crowd could be more forgiving towards
>]kris aquino.

->Excuse me? IMHO, there is no anti-Kris crowd here in SCF... anti-sexual-
immorality pwede pa. Ika nga hate the sin and not the sinner. Kris has
not sinned against any of the posters here in SCF... she has sinned against
God, and so am I. The point that I'm trying to get across was don't
justify a fault. Kung merong nakitang mali... aminin huwag ipagtanggol.
There is no one free of sin. All of us are sinners...now we have to
welcome Christ in our hearts to be free from sin. No one has the right
to judge anybody... God is the only judge we have.

>
>
> what's your problem? not your problem. it's kris' problem.
> you have many problem?
>
>
>]people will sin. people also need to forgive.
>]
>]:
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Jan 7, 1995, 8:40:52 PM1/7/95
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In <3emorf$h...@agate.berkeley.edu> gldn...@uclink.berkeley.edu (Rhett
Valino Pascual) writes:

>But here's another question: Do they have sex in heaven?

I think heaven will be equivalent to one big everlasting orgasm. If this
sounds good to you, fall in line behind me.

Deer Hunter

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Jan 7, 1995, 10:27:42 PM1/7/95
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Rhett Valino Pascual (gldn...@uclink.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: Si Kumareng Joyce naman... But I was reading about that stuff of fallacy

HUH?

Joyce T.


alba_humphrey

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Jan 9, 1995, 11:23:56 AM1/9/95
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In article <3emorf$h...@agate.berkeley.edu>, gldn...@uclink.berkeley.edu (Rhett Valino Pascual) writes:
]Si Kumareng Joyce naman... But I was reading about that stuff of fallacy
]

bastos ka talaga, retong. wala, none.
there's no sex in heaven. as it is written,
angels do not marry or are given in marriage.
ang dumi ng kukuti mo. linis-linisin mo.


]SocREtong
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Mihali Felipe

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Jan 9, 1995, 9:10:51 PM1/9/95
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In article <3eqngi$9...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> sest...@ix.netcom.com (Sal Estrada) writes:
>In <D223v...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca> cs94...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca (JENNELYN J
>FAJARDO) writes:
>> (snip) Kris has

>> not sinned against any of the posters here in SCF... she has sinned against
>> God....
>
>Jennelyn, on the one hand you say this...
>a few sentences later you say this...
>
>> (snip) No one has the right

>> to judge anybody... God is the only judge we have.
>
>What made you conclude that Kris sinned against
>God? You have judged her based
>on third-hand news and without listening to her
>side of the story. I agree with
>your advice...let God alone judge who has sinned and who has not.
>
>Sal Estrada


The problem here is semantics. "Judge" can mean "cast a judgement,"
or it could mean "discern." The former is left to God, the latter
is something people could do. What Kris has done is definitely, biblically
wrong in God's eyes. But who am I to condemn her? I'm a sinner too.
The difference is hers is widely publicized. Mine isn't. All I'm
saying is that you can judge (discern) sin, even that of others.
Now what you do with what you discern is another discussion. With
Kris's, what I'll do is just shut-up.


- Mihali
"Just once.." (Quincy Jones)
"Just got lucky.." (Bagets theme)
"Just beat it, just beat it..." (Michael Jackson)

JENNELYN J FAJARDO

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In article <juanmigu-060...@nts46.dialup.hawaii.edu> juan...@hcc.hawaii.edu (Mike Paredes) writes:
>
> I think that being an astronaut was irrelevant as far as Jesus is
>concerned. The masturbation part seems more likely. :)
>
>--
>Mike Paredes.......E-Mail: <juan...@hcc.hawaii.edu>

I hope that your statement was meant as a joke right?
You used the :) symbol so you're just kidding... but I tell you what...
you're sick...(perhaps I am too)... we're both sick people...WHY?
because you keep on saying that you're a CHRISTIAN but yet you don't
agree with Jesus Christ. Saying that Jesus is more likely to
masturbate is disgusting! You're accusing God of doing immorality...
that is BLASPHEMY!!! So next time... don't call yourself a CHRISTIAN...
your parents may be CHRISTIANS but that doesn't make you one...because
you don't act like one... You can say that she/he/me/you/they masturbate...
but if your a true CHRISTIAN then don't you ever BLASPHEME against Jesus.
So next time...just say you're an atheist or anti-CHRIST then I'll
understand you much better than claiming that you're a Christian.

Jesus said, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,
fornification, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: (Matt. 15:19)

Hey, Mike... I guess I'll see you in hell!
Don't worry... I'll reserve a very hot spot for you 8))).

-jenn-

JENNELYN J FAJARDO

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In article <3eqngi$9...@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> sest...@ix.netcom.com (Sal Estrada) writes:
>In <D223v...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca> cs94...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca (JENNELYN J
>FAJARDO) writes:
>
>> (snip) Kris has

>> not sinned against any of the posters here in SCF... she has sinned against
>> God, and so am I.
>
>Jennelyn, on the one hand you say this...
>a few sentences later you say this...
>
>> (snip) No one has the right

>> to judge anybody... God is the only judge we have.
>
>What made you conclude that Kris sinned against God?You have judged her based
***************************************************

-> Romans 3:23 "All have sinned and fall short glory of GOD"
***
-> All means all ordinary human beings...if KRIS is an alien then
she's an exception 8)...All means Kris...you, me, them... etc.
unless...you don't believe in what the bible says.

>on third-hand news and without listening to her side of the story.I agree with ******************************************

-> Hey KRIS... wanna tell your story? 8)



>your advice...let God alone judge who has sinned and who has not.
>

>--
>Sal Estrada
>Cupertino, CA

->Opppsss... missed the point SAL... KRIS has not necessarily sinned against
us... and I didn't necessarily had sinned against you... BUT
we ALL sinned against GOD... THAT IS NOT MY OWN JUDGMENT Sal...
Read Romans 3:23 again and you'll see that when I say KRIS has sinned
against GOD, I was NOT judging her... I'm merely stating a FACT from the
bible and not a JUDGMENT. If it's a judgment (OK) then it came from
GOD (Romans 3:23 ...again!!!) and not from me... because guess what?
I didn't write the BIBLE 8)

Paul Amblard

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In article <D27nI...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca>,

JENNELYN J FAJARDO <cs94...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca> wrote:
>
>Jesus said, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,
>fornification, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: (Matt. 15:19)

I hope this sentence will be repeated to the Pope while visiting PI.
The french Radio told this morning that the Tour is supported
(sponsorized ?) by Mac Donald.
Mr the Pope : I do not agree with this.
(By the way Do the Pope read soc.culture.filipino ?)

Must we change Jesus' words ?
This is my Body.
This is my Blood

This is ketchup
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Paul AMBLARD L.G.I. I.M.A.G. BP 53 F 38041 GRENOBLE Cedex 9
Tel (33) 76827212 bat. Ensimag bur. 302 Paul.A...@imag.fr

malaking suso ako

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Jan 12, 1995, 4:51:00 PM1/12/95
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cs94...@ariel.cs.yorku.ca (JENNELYN J FAJARDO) writes:

Jennelyn : you dont have a penis, so you don't now that
a man needs to play with his erect penis and ejaculate as
often as he can with or without a woman, you you cannot say how it feels to
be a man because you are not a man...

>-> rhett, kilabatutan ka naman sa sinasabi mo! 8)
> Of course, Jesus Christ is a man so he does what we do...
> I mean, he breaths...he talks...he has two eyes...two ears...
> he eats...and of course he goes to the washroom to urinate
> or defocate ('yon ba ang right term?)... But Jesus is also
> true God (True God and True Man)... so if you mean play in
> a dirty sense... God doesn't do that... because He's got all...
> everything... he's got peace, love, wisdom and he understands
> all things... he doesn't need to play dirty games...Oh...
> tatanong nyo na naman kung paano ko nalaman to... tatanong nyo
> na naman kung nag-send ako ng email sa heaven...
> Well, I know this because I'm using my *Christian* common sense!

>->Joyce T. -> ito ba yung rhetotitis na sinanabi mo?

Mihali Felipe

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Jan 12, 1995, 7:20:07 PM1/12/95
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Hey you two, take a rest... take a walk... take medicine.. take something.
Time to break up this affray.


In article <juanmigu-110...@nts65.dialup.hawaii.edu> juan...@hcc.hawaii.edu (Mike Paredes) writes:
>This is a flame to JENNELYN J FARARDO, who attacked my Christianity...

>(JENNELYN J FAJARDO) wrote:
>> Hey, Mike... I guess I'll see you in hell!
>> Don't worry... I'll reserve a very hot spot for you 8))).


- Mihali


Bobby Factura

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Jan 13, 1995, 10:10:23 AM1/13/95
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Yeah! Mag-jack-en-poy na lang kaya kayo. Jack-en-poy 'Mihali' hali hoy
sinong matalo siyang unggoy!

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Efren A Bose

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Jan 13, 1995, 12:47:40 PM1/13/95
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[stuff deleted for brevity]

: > Jesus said, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries,


: > fornification, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: (Matt. 15:19)

: Masturbation? No mention. I hope you don't think it's "evil thoughts."
: Oh lord, please help her. Don't strike her down just yet! <---(that's a
: joke)

Miss Fajardo,

I might be blasphemous as well (me being a flip fag and all), but you might
also want to consider these things in the Bible as well....

Remember the parable about the woman who committed adultery and she was
about to be stoned by a group of self-righteous Pharisees? Jesus said,
"Let the man who has committed no sin cast the first stone." And do you
remember what happened? They walked away...

I think the last thing God had intended for so-called "Christians" to do
is to forcefully impose their views on people without any intent to show
God's love...'cuz isn't that what God is, according to the Bible?

Just some food for thought...

Efren

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\ / "If you are not personally free to be yourself in that most
\ / important of all human activities--the expression of love--
\/ then life itself loses its meaning." -Harvey Milk
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Mihali Felipe

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Jan 13, 1995, 2:03:26 PM1/13/95
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Hahaha. Walanghiya ka! Loko nila 'to sa akin nung bata ako a.

Tony Castillo

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In article <juanmigu-110...@nts65.dialup.hawaii.edu>, juan...@hcc.hawaii.edu (Mike Paredes) writes:

> Where did this come from? So, I can't say Jesus probably masturbated,
> because that means that I'm not a Christian? Wow.
>
> I am a Christian. I AM a Catholic, whether you like it or not. And no,
> that does not mean that I cannot say things like "fuck jesus" or "jesus
> was crap." What I say has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with my
> religion. Your interpretations might be different from mine, but please,
> don't tell me what I am or am not because I don't do that to anybody else,
> ok? And because you have no right to...
>
> Last week, some "born-again" also told me I wasn't a christian because I
> didn't see things like he did (mainly about taking the bible literally; he
> said I should, I said I didn't).
>
>
> You know exactly what it means to be a Christian don't you? Boy you just
> know everything about me and everything else don't you? You zealot you.
> You fanatic you.
>

Jennelyn Fajardo wrotes:

>> So next time...just say you're an atheist or anti-CHRIST then I'll
>> understand you much better than claiming that you're a Christian.
>

> Why will I say that I am an atheist or an anti-Christ? Because YOU say
> so? Go to hell. <-- that's from me, not my Christianity.
>

I just want to join in and give my perception about the issues. No, I don't
want a flame war and I'm not adding this followup as a fuel to another one.
What I really want is just to address the issue about the Christianity. How do
we really define a Christian? My Webster's New World Dictionary define it as
1 a person professing belief in Jesus as the Christ, or in the religion based
on the teachings of Jesus 2 [Colloq] a decent, respectable person --adj. 1 of
Jesus Christ or his teachings 2 of or professing the religion based on these
teachings 3 having the qualities demonstrated and taught by Jesus Christ, as
love, kindness, humility, etc. 4 of or representing Christians or Christianity

Before, I go on, let us examine ourselves if we're in fitted in the meaning
above.

When I was in the Philippines, I heard from someone travelling to the
Philippines that when the airplane is already in the Philippine Air space, the
captain or someone will announce that 'We are now entering the Philippines, the
only Christian nation in Asia.' I don't know what happen why they didn't
announce the same thing when I went home last year... Maybe, we are not the
only Christian nation now in Asia... Or maybe, we are no longer a Christian
nation in Asia... What make us really a Christian nation? What make us a
Christian? 'Because we are not born as a Muslim,' stated my philosophical
friend when I asked him the same question many years ago.

Are we all guilty of the same thinking as my philosophical friend? Because we
are not a muslim, therefore we can call ourselves a Christian. Because we are
Catholic we are Christian, because we know Christ, we are Christian, because we
are religious we are Christian...

For me it is a different thing why I call myself a Christian. First, I define
Christian as simple as this, you need to have Christ to be a Christian just
like millionaires, have millions. See, if we are going to remove Christ in
the world Christian, we will end up with the world IAN which for me stands for
'I Am Nothing.' Yes, I Am Nothing without Christ.

We don't need any religion to become a Christian... Everyone of us can become
one, it is just a matter of choice. It is a only a simple step to take if you
are willing do it. It is not very long procedure... It is between you and
Him and you cannot loose anything but will gain a lot. If you will just follow
these three simple steps: 1. Admit that you are a sinner (As it is written,
'THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE': Romans 3:10). 2. Repent of your sins
before the Lord ('And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now
commandeth all men everywhere to repent:' Acts 17:30). 3. Accept Jesus Christ
as your Personal Saviour and Lord ('But as many as received him, to them gave he
power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:' John
1:12).


> --
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> ##########
> "The 'paradox' is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality 'ought to be.'" - Richard Feynman
>
> "In the universe great acts are made up of small deeds." - Lao Tsu
> ##########

In Him,
tony

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Rhett Valino Pascual

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Hmm, what's this? Something i wrote has spawned off into some ugly
malediction... Interesting.

Mike, I think Jennelyn has been infected by that rhettotitis virus going
around scf. I mean, she really sounded like a zealot and a crazed
lunatic in her writings. That couldn't possibly be the jennelyn that is
usually rational.

Here's my analysis of your flame. Don't take this as a flame. As a
first flame, that was respectable. But there are always room for
improvement.

I think we need some structure here. We need some groundwork where we
can base all the flames into. In this case, you had some framework
(religion). But, you need to keep looking back at the framework;
otherwise, you will lapse into some dead-ends (reference to a stupid,
nincompoop with a brain of a targeted baboon in the floods of the sonoma
county rivers Christian zealot).

Secondly, we need to get that emotion in there. Of course, we don't wish
to be crass so usually i just use " &*%(^&$%^$%%&@%$^ " It converys the
message. Sometimes though, i have to begin conjugating and hyphenating
words together to create a more horrid image.

Don't do a point-counterpoint argument. it gets really tiring reading
all this crap again with your one sentence rebuttal. And let's face it,
if you hav to rebut in one sentence, you should not say anything at all.

Now for the good parts:

>No, you won't see me in hell. So you can sit on that hot spot all you
>want and masturbate all day for all I care.

This is a classic. You could build an honors thesis on this. And I
think you also said something about looking in a mirror and seeing the
zealot blah-blah-blah. That was also good.

So for the first flame of 1995, I award Mike Paredes the Flaming Bush
Award!!! Three cheers for Mike!!! and for Jennelyn we have the
Sacrificial Lamb Honors. She's a great sport!!!


"I'm hosting the Oscar's"-REtong
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